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zulSpamapS: Red Hat 8.0? talk about old school ;)00:17
uvirtbotNew bug: #834172 in orchestra (universe) "dnsmasq does not include domain name in hostnames" [Low,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83417200:18
TheEvilPhoenixDaviey:  if you're still around, i initiated the download.  Had to change location, hence the delay.  The image is being downloaded as we speak, i'll load it up into VBox shortly.00:19
TheEvilPhoenixDaviey:  want anything specific from the image tested?  ;P00:19
uvirtbotNew bug: #838968 in ifupdown (main) "static-network-up event does not wait for interfaces to have an address" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83896801:17
maxbCan anyone recommend which software included in Ubuntu they prefer for managing IPsec VPNs? (racoon? isakmpd? openswan? strongswan?)02:34
twbI'm still using openvpn (i.e. not ipsec) because I'm lazy.02:35
maxbopenvpn is very nice and managable, but sometimes other people want you to talk IPsec to them :-/02:36
twbNod02:36
twbFor that I use vpnc ;-)02:36
twb(That cisco junk is actually gre/ipsec or l2tp/ipsec or something, under the hood.)02:37
DanaGoh yeah, no openvpn on iphone OS.02:57
DanaGI've set up openswan... took a whole lot of fiddling.02:57
pleia2I've used openswan but strongswan has much better documentation and I'd probably use that if I was going to do it again02:58
twbDanaG: yeah, well, no freedom on the iphone either, so Captain Fail for that device03:05
DanaGI'm looking for something to replace my iPod Touch with, that won't require a data plan.03:34
DanaGI'm thinking unlocked Nexus Prime once it's out, but that's expensive.03:34
DanaGIs Ubuntu Mobile even still relevant?03:34
DanaGI haven't heard from it in a while.03:34
DanaGs/from/about/03:34
DanaGOh yeah, so now I have an ipmi card in my microserver, and got ipmi_si to load.  Now, what do I do with it?03:35
jmarsdenHmmm, you should be able to do all sorts of remote monitoring and remote control stuff, but I don't know what the open source IPMI client tools are called, never mind whether they work :)   freeipmi-tools package might be worth a look?03:39
DanaGToo bad HP failed to hook up the UART in the thing.03:40
DanaGThat is, the IPMI chip supports SOL, but the motherboard doesn't offer it to the OS.03:40
DanaGOh, and the ACPI tables declare the kcs at the wrong base address.  Had to override that.03:41
twbIsn't "ubuntu mobile" just the ubuntu normal desktop now?03:44
jmarsdenOh, that's a bit sad... I have worked on some 1U servers with a recent Intel motherboard (1200BTS and E3-1230 CPU, or close to that) that comes with a little extra IPMI addon, separate management NIC, etc.  But in the Windows world, not the Linux one, unfortunately :)  They do what they say they do... remote power on/power off, access to BIOS setup screens, etc. etc.03:44
DanaGYeah, but vKVM is java only.03:45
DanaGAnd it has a rather hideous filename that confuses many browsers.03:45
DanaGkvmViewer.jnlp(blahblahthere'sadateinheresomewhere)03:45
DanaGOr rather, there's even an apostrophe somewhere.03:45
jmarsdenSounds like a nice way to test browsers :)03:46
DanaGDo any of you guys have contacts with HP?03:46
DanaGThe thing also locks the non-HDD SATA ports to legacy IDE mode.  So, you can't use AHCI on them!03:46
DanaGAnd they don't mark the ahci ports hot-swappable even though they basically are.03:46
DanaGThere's a modded bios that fixes that, at least.03:47
twbI wish theme=dark was the default in d-i03:56
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uvirtbotNew bug: #839263 in nagios3 (main) "package nagios3-common 3.2.3-1ubuntu1.2 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83926304:13
twbI have a remote host, and a monkey has plugged a USB HDD into it.04:41
twbI suspect he's plugged it into a USB1 port -- how can I test this?04:41
lickalottmount /dev/sdb (or the like) to a folder and see whats inside04:43
twbI mean how can I test USB1 vs. USB204:43
jmarsdentwb: doesn't    sudo lsusb    say whether a hub is a USB 1.1 or a USB 2 hub?04:44
lickalottBus 007 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub04:44
lickalottBus 006 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub04:44
lickalottBus 005 Device 002: ID 046d:c517 Logitech, Inc. LX710 Cordless Desktop Laser04:44
lickalottBus 005 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub04:44
lickalottBus 004 Device 002: ID 046d:c01b Logitech, Inc. MX310 Optical Mouse04:44
lickalottBus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub04:44
lickalottBus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub04:44
lickalottBus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub04:44
lickalottBus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub04:44
lickalottoutput of lsusb04:44
lickalottgood call jmarsden.  i obviously didn't understand the question04:44
twbMine's dumber than that04:46
lickalott?04:46
jmarsdentwb: There should be some lsusb option that will convey the info to you... lsusb -t maybe?  Or even the verobsity of   sudo lsusb -v -v04:47
twbSorry, afk w/boss04:50
twbhttp://paste.debian.net/128140/ and http://paste.debian.net/128141/04:50
twbIt's a hardy box apparently04:50
twbThat doesn't mention which HCI is used04:52
jmarsdentwb: Do a full lsusb -vv  and look for stuff about "power" -- USB 1.1 does not do power switching and 2.0 does, and in Lucid at least the full output tells you about that, per hub.04:53
jmarsdenBut I wonder if the Hardy lsusb is less informative?04:53
twbOK, 005:001 is EHCI04:55
twbUHCI is the 1.0 speed one; EHCI is the 2.0 one04:55
philipballewhow would i make a vpn server04:56
twbphilipballew: 1) get a server; 2) set up VPN.04:56
jmarsdentwb: So... your monkey managed to find a USB 2.0 port, it would seem :)04:56
twbjmarsden: yep, and I'm just impatient04:56
lickalottdamn monkey04:57
twb(I'm copying an ubuntu mirror to it because the site is only connected to me via 56k, and not to the internet at all :-/)04:57
jmarsdentwb: Persuade the boss to replace it with hardware that does USB 3.0 and the impatience might go down slightly?04:57
philipballewtwb, do i need a special type of router?04:57
lickalottno04:57
twbphilipballew: if the VPN terminats on the server, no04:57
jmarsdenphilipballew: If you want the *router* to do the VPN work, it needs rouetr software that knows about VPNs.  But you can just pass that through to the server and run VPN software on the server, which is more usually flexible if you have a Ubuntu server around :)04:58
jmarsdens/more usually/usually more/    :)04:59
philipballewi have a ubuntu server chillin a few thousand miles from me. can i do all this from ssh? twb05:01
philipballewjmarsden,05:01
twbIf you can get into it, sure05:01
twbOf course if you fuck up, you won't be able to get in to fix it without a LOM05:02
philipballewwhats lom mean?05:03
philipballewbut even if i mess up i can still ssh into it probably05:03
jmarsdenLOM == Lights Out Management, a way good server hardware has of being controlled remotely even when bad things are done to it...05:04
jmarsdenBasically a little microcontroller that runs even when the main machine is powered down/hung/etc.05:05
jmarsdenThe name comes from the idea that you no longer need lights on in the server room... you'll never need to be in there :)05:05
philipballewyeah. I just want a vpn to avoid my college always watching everything i do05:06
philipballewits annoying05:06
jmarsdenJust ssh to the remote server... they can't see what you type over SSH... so you can do whatever commands you want to do on the remote server, unobserved.05:07
jmarsdenNo need for a VPN.05:07
philipballewcan I browse the web though jmarsden05:08
jmarsdenWell, sure.  You can run a text mode browser on the remote server :)  or, you can put a browser on the remote server and do ssh X forwarding to see the screen from it on your local workstation.05:09
philipballewhow fast would that be?05:09
jmarsdenIt depends what you are doing.  What makes you think a VPN would be faster?05:10
jmarsdenIf you are new to this stuff, X over SSH is a lot simpler to try out than setting up a reall VPN between the two sites, I would think.05:11
philipballewjmarsden, yeah. im fairly good with networking. x over ssh might work, but i dont wanna have x on my server and have more things and proccess on it that might have problems05:16
jmarsdenAll you need on the server is the client parts of X, the X server is local to you on your workstation.  Unless you have a VERY weedy server, there shouldn't be an issue there.05:16
philipballewhum. I might look at how hard a vpn is to set up first05:18
philipballew!vpn05:18
ubottuFor more information on vpn please refer to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VPN05:18
eagles0513875hi guys i need some help from an email expert06:48
eagles0513875i have no idea where to begin looking to debug an issue with my emails not being delivered to my maildir but to /var/mail which i dont want06:49
jmarsdeneagles0513875: That's just a matter of configuring the MTA to deliver it the way you *do* want :)06:50
eagles0513875jmarsden: i have checked both postfix and dovecot configs 3x over and made sure they were set to the way i had them before06:51
eagles0513875which they are06:51
eagles0513875yet06:51
eagles0513875even though they are exactly like the old configs it still not delivering to the right location06:51
jmarsdenYou diffed the two sets of config files and that are 100% identical -- no output from diff at all?06:52
jmarsdens/that/they/06:53
jmarsdenIf so, and you restarted all the relevant daemons, whatever else changed in your machine between "old" and "new" is responsible...06:53
jmarsdenBut I am being asked to go AFK for a while, bad timing...06:54
eagles0513875jmarsden: well i backed up the old configs and printed them out and went line by line as i did an upgrade to my server so this is a clean install06:54
eagles0513875any other email experts in the house here06:54
jmarsdenThat's ... an unusual approach.  Restore the old files to some temporary location, diff -ur the two trees of config files!   No need to waste paper and then read line by line :)06:55
eagles0513875good point will do that06:56
eagles0513875:D06:56
greppyeagles0513875: pastebin your /etc/postfix/main.cf and /etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf?06:57
eagles0513875give me a sec greppy06:57
eagles0513875http://pastebin.com/SnuqSBMV (postfix) http://pastebin.com/1gsjYQAH (dovecot)06:59
greppyeagles0513875: line 230 of dovecot, uncomment mail_location07:02
eagles0513875if you look a few lines above it i have line 224 uncommented in regards to mail_location07:02
greppyah, missed that :) you may need to remove the leading whitespace, I know dovecot has had issues with that in the past in various placs07:03
eagles0513875you mean move it to the beginning of the line07:03
eagles0513875greppy: sent myself a test email and still nothing :(07:05
eagles0513875at least nothign in the inbox in squirrelmail showing up there07:05
eagles0513875should i do a diff on the old and new configs and see what that turns up07:07
greppyyeah07:08
eagles0513875ok07:08
eagles0513875sigh this has been driving me crazy for over 24 hrs lol07:08
greppythe other thing to look at is the mailbox_command in your postfix config07:08
eagles0513875that is set for using spamassassin via procmail07:08
greppyusing dovecot deliver instead of procmail may be the missing piece07:08
eagles0513875didnt have any issues with it before07:08
greppyon a side note, you may want to look at using amavis for spam scanning since you can also tie clamav into it, instead of shoving it off using procmail.07:09
eagles0513875greppy: oddly enough i have never gotten any spam07:10
greppyheh07:10
eagles0513875well let me get this issue solved first then i might migrate07:10
* greppy has had the same domain and email address for ~15 years.07:10
eagles0513875do you have any good how to's on amavis07:10
greppyhttp://www200.pair.com/mecham/spam/07:13
greppythat's the way that I usually handle it, it's for debian, but with a minor amount of tweaking it can be done. :)07:13
eagles0513875kool will have to give it a shot07:14
eagles0513875greppy: i got something interesting to pick ur brain07:18
eagles0513875regarding vhosts and vhost logging07:18
eagles0513875if you want a nice puzzle to pick ur brain with this morning07:18
greppyheh07:24
greppyyou can ask, I may or may not have an answer or time :)07:24
eagles0513875for some reason 2 lines in a vhost cause apache to fail to start or restart07:24
eagles0513875if i comment them out then things work fine07:25
eagles0513875greppy: everything looks fine07:29
eagles0513875woudl this be an issue with squirrelmail07:30
greppynope, squirrelmail talks to dovecot to find out where stuff is.07:30
greppyit's agnostic07:31
greppywhat two lines?07:31
eagles0513875greppy: im gonna try resetup squirrelmail cuz we changed the default way it was setup in apache07:33
eagles0513875im wondering if that is the issue07:33
eagles0513875emails are going through07:34
eagles0513875to my server as nothing has bounced back07:34
eagles0513875greppy: running a quick test with thunderbird to see that its not squirrelmail which isnt configured right07:38
eagles0513875sigh07:41
eagles0513875might have to purge dovecot and postfix and setup again from scratch07:41
greppywhat is procmail doing with the mail?07:45
greppyI want to say procmail doesn't do Maildir, but could be wrong.07:45
eagles0513875greppy: it was before i upgraded my server07:50
eagles0513875all its doing is spam filtering07:50
eagles0513875spamassassin seems to work with procmail07:50
uvirtbotNew bug: #839390 in apache2 (main) "Apache+Kerberos not working anymore since update today" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83939008:46
eagles0513875greppy: gonna try copy my configs over the old ones09:03
iuytfrhello09:06
iuytfrwhen yo create raid 6 on 8 disk of 100 Go what is capacity of disk we got ?09:06
twbWikipedia tells you how to calculate effective capacity09:08
twb"The usable capacity of a RAID 6 array is (N-2) \cdot S_{\mathrm{min}}, where N is the total number of drives in the array and S[min] is the capacity of the smallest drive in the array."09:08
iuytfrso the capacity on my case is 600 Go09:12
iuytfram i right ?09:12
twbI think so09:12
twbPersonally I would throw out that SCSI/SAS stuff and just get a two- or three-way RAID1 2TB SATA array09:13
eagles0513875ugh this is frustrating09:14
eagles0513875tbh twb wish my server was hot swappable09:16
eagles0513875instead of simple swap09:16
twbAll SATA is hot-swappable :P09:17
eagles0513875twb: the server has to have the sas backplane to support hot swapping09:18
twbPish tosh09:18
twbJust open the case and unplug shit, I'm sure it'll be ok09:19
eagles0513875lol09:19
eagles0513875think i need to reformat my server again have a majorly screwedup dovecot+postfix setup09:19
eagles0513875that i have no earthlyl idea where on earth i went wrong with09:19
iuytfrwell i have an other question when you create raid 10 on 25 disk of 100 GO what is the capacity we got ?09:20
twbiuytfr: 10 would normally have an even number of disks09:21
_rubenmdadm's "raid10" doesn't have that "limitation" tho09:21
_rubeniirc09:21
twbYea, mdadm will let you do stupid things09:21
_rubenyup :)09:21
twbWe have a bunch of -l1 -n3's for read-heavy workloads :P09:22
twbGoddamn boss is not doing his job and convincing customers not to buy hardware raid09:22
twbSo I am also ending up having to babysit a few LSI junkpiles09:23
_rubennice09:23
twbMost don't even have BBUs09:23
iuytfrwhat is the capacity ? twb for raid1009:23
iuytfr25 disk of 100 go09:23
twbiuytfr: I'm not your mum.  Do your own homework.09:23
twbiuytfr: https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/RAID09:24
iuytfrcatch your word09:24
iuytfrbe carefull09:24
Davieyjamespage: did you see we had a post-release panic last night?09:25
eagles0513875twb: question09:26
eagles0513875if i copy the configs over the default postfix and dovecot configurations09:26
jamespageDaviey: nope - missed that one - what happened?09:26
eagles0513875configs from my old setup which worked09:26
eagles0513875i shoudl be able to have instant running email server right09:26
Davieyjamespage: The 'released' and QA'd image was deleted :)09:27
Davieyjamespage: So had to re-QA the next daily.09:27
jamespageDaviey: doh! - how did that happen?09:27
Daviey"oh joy"09:27
jamespageyikes - I can imagine09:27
jamespageI must have been in bed by then09:27
Davieyjamespage: it was cleaned up by the build process cron.09:27
Davieyjamespage: Yeah, thanks.. Glad to hear you got a good nights sleep. :)09:28
lynxmansoren: Congrats on your move to nebula ;)10:11
Davieyjamespage: Hmm, that jenkins branch FTBFS for me :/10:13
jamespageDaviey: grr - lemme check again10:13
jamespageDaviey: what error do you get10:14
Davieyjamespage: http://pb.daviey.com/EVG7/10:14
sorenlynxman: Wow. You're quick :)10:14
jamespageDaveiy: hrmm - thats the missing fonts issue10:15
Davieyjamespage: let me update my chroot, that might be causing the issue.10:16
Daviey:/10:16
nigelbsoren: Congrats!10:19
lynxmansoren: I live in the bleeding edge, it hurts sometimes :)10:19
sorenlynxman: Living under a rock isn't much better, let me tell you.10:19
nigelbsoren: You'll still continue to work on OpenStack at Nebula?10:19
sorennigelb: Yup.10:20
nigelbExcellent!10:20
sorennigelb: Yup :)10:20
nigelbAnd I assume we'll continue to see you at UDS?10:20
Daviey... then hangovers will continue for the rest of is.10:21
Davieyus*10:21
nigelbI still giggle about soren and sbeattie and the lady with flowers10:22
jamespageDaviey: I just tried another sbuild of a fresh copy of that branch and it builds OK for me....10:23
Davieynigelb: Ah, we told her they were together?10:24
sorennigelb: Yeah, can't keep me away from UDS.10:24
sorennigelb: Heh, yeah, I wish someone had filmed that. :)10:25
sorenDaviey: I was (for reasons the escape me) sitting on sbeattie's lap.10:25
sorens/the/that/10:25
nigelbDaviey: soren was sitting in steve's lap (there was no space). The flower lady went behind me (I was right next to them) and circled around. Then she saw them.10:25
sorenAh. No space. Good excuse. Thanks.10:25
nigelbTHe expression on her face made us all burst out laughing10:25
Davieynigelb: I was there.. i "helped" the confusion with her.10:25
nigelbhaha10:25
nigelbDaviey: oh yeah10:26
nigelbI have a photo of that10:26
nigelbwell, not of the lad'y expression10:26
Davieyjamespage: Odd, just made sure my chroot was up to date, and it still failed.10:26
jamespageyou are building -0ubuntu2?10:26
jamespagejust checking :-)10:26
Davieyroot@voodoo:~/jenkins-1.409.1# head -n1 debian/changelog10:27
Davieyjenkins (1.409.1-0ubuntu2) oneiric; urgency=low10:27
Davieyjamespage: I don't understand the error i am seeing, looks kinda odd that it would be resolved with a font inclusion.10:29
jamespageDaviey: so testGraph generates graphics using Java - which include text which needs fonts to generate10:29
Davieyjamespage: OK, i'll upload it if you are certain.. but you handle any breakage :).  I would like to understand why it is failing in pbuilder for me.10:31
jamespageI would rather figure out why it builds for me and not for you first10:32
jamespageDaviey: pls can you post a full build log - I'll see if there are any diffs10:32
Davieyjamespage: Full failure - http://pb.daviey.com/RNTH/10:33
Davieyhah10:33
jamespageDaviey: is the pbuilder environment still available - the actual test log would be helpful to10:35
Davieyjamespage: sure10:36
Davieyjamespage: which file do you want?10:36
jamespageit will sit in core/target/surefire-testreports/ - file should refect the name of the test10:37
eagles0513875hey guys any squirrelmail experts in here10:40
Davieyjamespage: http://bootie.daviey.com/~dave/temp-jenkins-fail-logs/10:42
Davieylynxman: urgh, that hd just failed again10:43
jamespageDaviey: hmmm -http://bootie.daviey.com/~dave/temp-jenkins-fail-logs/hudson.model.LoadStatisticsTest.txt10:43
jamespagedifferent error - bah!10:44
lynxmanDaviey: oh oh :(10:44
lynxmanDaviey: happy Friday?10:44
Davieylynxman: something like that10:44
Davieyjamespage: It was an X running?10:46
jamespageDaviey: well maybe10:46
jamespagewhen I use sbuild it running on my laptop - which does have a :0 display running10:47
jamespagetrying it in PPA now - might work10:47
Davieyjamespage: cool10:51
Davieylynxman: I've added it back, once more - i am a bad man.10:51
lynxmanDaviey: you like to play RAID russian roulette :D10:52
Davieylynxman: I really don't want to visit the datacentre it is in. :/10:55
lynxmanDaviey: where it is? Docklands?10:56
jamespageDaviey: will build in 2 hours - catchup later11:01
jamespagehttps://launchpad.net/~james-page/+archive/junk/+build/276100311:01
Davieyjamespage: groovy11:02
uvirtbotNew bug: #839489 in mysql-5.1 (main) "package mysql-server-5.1 5.1.54-1ubuntu4 failed to install/upgrade: the script post-installation subprocess returned exit code 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83948911:36
uvirtbotNew bug: #839490 in nut (main) "NUT is not shutdown UPS" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83949011:36
eagles0513875hey guys any email experts in here11:43
sorenJust ask your question.11:46
sorena) Noone will admit to being an expert in anything. They'll never be left alone.11:46
eagles0513875for some reason squirrelmail isnt picking up my new emails in my Maildir11:46
sorenb) Chances are you don't need an expert.11:46
eagles0513875yet i have been over the configs for dovecot and postfix time and tiem again and they are just as i had them setup before11:47
eagles0513875i upgraded my server and it now has 10.04.311:47
eagles0513875prior i was on 10.04.2 and squirrelmail worked like a charm11:47
patdk-wkroyk?12:10
uvirtbotNew bug: #839509 in nut (main) "nut can not log to syslog when shutdown" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83950912:11
RoyKpatdk-wk: ?12:19
patdk-wkattempting to try openindiana12:23
patdk-wkyour using yours strickly for backups?12:24
RoyKpatdk-wk: three machines are strictly for backup12:47
RoyKone is a fileserver, mostly NFS, and another is yet a backup (zfs receive from the fileserver)12:47
patdk-wkbeen attempting to get root over nfs, but it keeps being denied12:47
RoyKyet another is a dedicated fileserver with striped mirrors (which is FAST!)12:47
patdk-wkya, I'm building a striped mirror zfs with 4 ssd's12:48
patdk-wkshould be fast12:48
RoyKonly SSDs?12:48
patdk-wkna, 24 drives, 4 ssd12:48
RoyKwhat sort of SSDs?12:48
patdk-wkmlc12:48
RoyK /j #openindiana12:48
patdk-wkI am12:49
Doonzwhats a recommended distro for a zfs based fileserver for the less experienced user13:28
PiciUbuntu!13:28
ppetrakiDoonz, sorry, no zfs support in Linux last time I checked, at least not kernel level13:36
PiciOh, well, nevermind then.  I just didn't know what else you'd expect to hear from an Ubuntu channel. Maybe ##linux would be a better place to ask.13:37
Picier.. no, that doesn't make sense either. nevermind me.13:37
ppetrakiPici, you'll get the same answer, no distro supports it except for maybe through fuse, which sorta defeats the purpose13:38
Picippetraki: Right, which is why I said that my suggestion didn't make sense ;)13:39
ppetrakiPici, :13:39
ppetrakiPici, :)13:39
ppetrakiPici, do you know which features in ZFS that are most important to you?13:39
Picippetraki: you mean to ask Doonz13:40
ppetrakiPici, hmm, need more coffee13:40
ppetrakiDoonz, do you know which features in ZFS that are most important to you?13:40
ppetrakiDoonz, much of what it does is supported in a stacked manner e.g. MD, LVM + FS of choice13:41
Doonzppetraki: just looking for a simple fileserver os for 120Tb of redundant data13:48
Doonzneeds are iscsi nfs smb13:48
ppetrakiDoonz, oh, that's all :)13:49
Doonzfrom what ive been reading seems like zfs does what i want natively13:49
Doonzppetraki: yeah this is a pure fileserver13:49
ppetrakiDoonz, you can use MD to create a software raid 6, and then serve that to LVM as a physical volume13:49
ppetrakiDoonz, then LVM can carve up volumes as you see fit to be served raw through iscsi or add an fs and serve them NFS or whatever else suits you13:50
Doonzhmm13:50
Doonznow im conflicted13:51
Doonzthanx ;)13:51
ppetrakiDoonz, ZFS's greatest feature is it basically squashes all these layers for you, and adds some data integrity smarts13:51
Doonzyeah13:51
ppetrakiDoonz, but its nothing that hasn't been done before13:51
ppetrakiDoonz, and btrfs will soon be it's peer13:51
Doonzive been reading about that when is its supposed stable release13:52
ppetrakiDoonz, hey, options are good.13:52
ersiPici: There's only experimental FUSE support, and last time I checked it was slow as watching paint dry13:53
Doonztoo many too many13:53
Doonz:)13:53
ersiI meant Doonz13:53
Doonzok thanx im going back to the pdf land to keep reading13:53
ersiSorry, my eyes aren't with me this late in the afternoon13:53
* Pici makes note anyway13:53
ersiYour best bet if someone tells you they WANT ZFS, is either FreeBSD or Solaris13:54
* ersi shrugs13:54
ppetrakiersi, join the club :)13:55
ersiThe what club? ZFS club?13:56
ppetrakiersi, the I need coffee because I'm chatting with the wrong person in irc club13:56
ersiHaha13:56
PiciThe too-tired-to-use-irc properly club.13:56
ersiWell, we've been changing a lot of stuff in our software and I've been trying to verify and bug test the changes13:56
ersiand quite a SUPER IMPORTANT PART which.. we need ready by.. yesterday.. So, mind = slow ;D13:57
ersiOoh, time for release meeting \o/13:57
Doonzersi: yeah im installing opensolaris 11 rght now13:58
ppetrakiDoonz, if it works for you then more power to you. Just keep in mind that HW doesn't last forever and you might find when its time to turn it over that the community supporting opensolaris is way behind in hardware enablement. Then your invested in both a filesystem no GPL kernel will ever support *and* stuck in the past when it comes to acquiring new HW.14:00
Doonzyeah14:02
Doonzwell the good part is , is that my old fs will still be the production one and the new fs will be in cevelopment so im pretty much going to try everything out14:05
utlemmingping rbasak14:06
rbasakhello!14:07
rbasakhow'd it go?14:07
swiss_chrishello - I have the desktop version of ubuntu but want to access my apache 2 web server remotely from another computer on the same home network (via ip address would be fine). Can anyone give me a hint as to where to start? Running nmap on my ip address indicates that port 80 is open. Typing <my_ip_address>:80 into the address bar of my browser gives me "Not Found...". What am I missing here...?14:08
smoserSpamapS, when you arive https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/upstart/+bug/83959514:08
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 839595 in upstart "failsafe.conf's 30 second time out is too low" [Undecided,New]14:08
utlemmingmeh. I hit a bug with the linario toolchain that I have to work out -- it kept erroring out whilst copying files from the host into the chroot. The problem is definitely qemu, not the kernel or the image.14:09
smoserutlemming, starting http://pad.ubuntu.com/server-p-cloud-brainstorm14:10
ncampionsmoser: is there a place where i can find the ami id's of the 'official' ubuntu amis, a tracker or some sort?14:15
smoserncampion, yes!14:15
smoser /query14:15
jamespageDaviey: hmm - a long two hours - https://launchpad.net/~james-page/+archive/junk/+build/276100314:15
smoserhttp://ubuntu-smoser.blogspot.com/2011/07/how-to-find-right-ubuntu-ami-with-tools.html14:15
smoserncampion, ^14:15
linociscohow to add normal user to give shutdown and install right ?14:15
smoserand http://ubuntu-smoser.blogspot.com/2011/07/how-to-find-right-ubuntu-ami-on-ec2.html14:16
ncampionsmoser: thanks14:17
linociscosmoser: that is not gonna help me14:17
SpamapSsmoser: ACK14:18
swiss_chrisif nmap says port 80 is open, could it be apache that is blocking remote access to my web server? if so, how to I allow it?14:21
Piciswiss_chris: Are you nmapping localhost?  or from another machien?14:21
swiss_chrisi'm nmapping my ip address from my local machine.14:27
swiss_chrisPici:i'm nmapping my ip address from my local machine.14:27
swiss_chrisI just discovered a little detail however. The site I'm trying to access remotely is currently being served through a virtualhost with a hostname different from "localhost".14:28
Davieyjamespage: hmm, is that 2 hours metric time?14:28
jamespageDaviey: 2 hours launchpad tim,e14:29
swiss_chrisSo I guess I would need to set up some kind of similar virtualhost so that all external requests to my webserver are redirected to the desired directory?14:29
swiss_chrisIs this possible with virtualhost config?14:29
DavieyAh, next Wednesday?14:30
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Davieyzul: Fancy talking rbasak through how to make a new upstream snapshot of python-novaclient (including the bug # it fixes)?14:41
Daviey(which he fixes upstream incidently [kudos])14:41
zulDaviey: sure....gimme a bit14:42
zulrbasak: ping14:52
rbasakzul: pong14:53
zulrbasak: lemme know when you are free14:53
rbasakzul: ready right now14:53
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m4xxhas anyone installed ubuntu-server on a lenovo thinkserver using a raid 115:41
lynxmanRoAkSoAx: ping15:48
SpamapSm4xx: whats a thinkserver?15:51
SpamapSsounds like a laptop with a cracked screen.. ;)15:51
zulserver that makes you think?15:53
m4xxhttp://www.cdw.com/shop/products/Lenovo-ThinkServer-TD230-1029-Xeon-E5620-2.4-GHz/2155166.aspx15:53
uvirtbotNew bug: #839657 in rabbitmq-server (main) "Error message about parsing /etc/hosts with rabbitmqctl" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83965715:56
RoAkSoAxlynxman pong dude where were u ;)16:00
lynxmanRoAkSoAx: I'm waiting for you in the car, with my jacket on :D16:00
lynxmanRoAkSoAx: check siteam ;)16:00
RoAkSoAxlol16:00
RoAkSoAxgive me 15 mins16:00
rsrhello, I am trying to create a nat with ubuntu server, I have added these rules to iptables16:01
rsriptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE16:01
rsriptables -A FORWARD -i eth0 -o eth1 -m state --state RELATED,ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT16:01
rsrand iptables -A FORWARD -i eth1 -o eth0 -j ACCEPT16:02
lynxmanRoAkSoAx: cool16:02
rsrBut nat refuses to work. I have tried pinging from the network interface ping -I eth1 www.google.com, it resolves the ip but gives me network unreachable. Can anyone help me diagnose the problem?16:03
UrsinhaDaviey: hello?16:06
lynxmansmoser: congrats!16:11
hallynzul: uh, i guess we *do* have a reason for doing the libvirt merge - see last comment on https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36896216:13
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 368962 in libvirt "Can't reboot kvm virtual machines using virsh" [Wishlist,Triaged]16:13
zularrrrgh16:14
zulhallyn: what was the problem with 0.9.3 it didnt recognize hvm or something?16:16
rbasakutlemming: ping16:20
hallynzul: yeah, but that was on an ec2 instance, so may have been 'correct'16:23
hallyntoday, actually, finally, i may be able to test on actual kvm-capable hardware16:23
dxd828Gday!16:24
DavieyHello Ursinha !16:32
uvirtbotNew bug: #839715 in rabbitmq-server (main) "rabbitmq-server segfaults on startup under lucid lxc container in oneiric" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83971516:45
hallynjdstrand: here i go, running test-libvirt.py on my main laptop.  hope it goes gently :)16:47
Davieysidnei: You managed to make nearly all of your kernel modules non-free! :)16:54
sidneiDaviey, really? /me checks16:55
sidneii guess stallman would be proud of me16:55
Davieysidnei: bug 83971516:56
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 839715 in rabbitmq-server "rabbitmq-server segfaults on startup under lucid lxc container in oneiric" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83971516:56
sidneihow's that even possible? maybe a bug in apport?16:56
Davieysidnei: That is THE most non-free kernel i have ever seen.16:57
sidneiDaviey, maybe open-vm-tools replaces all those modules?16:59
Davieysidnei: pass.17:00
Davieysidnei: Maybe you are just evil? :)17:00
sidneii could be :)17:00
sidneii mean, might as well be running windows once you're that far17:00
Davieysidnei: ask jamespage for tips on how to run wndows and make it look like linux.17:04
sidneihehe17:04
Davieyrbasak: How did you get on with python-novalcient?17:04
jamespageDaviey: ha ha ha17:04
zulDaviey: its uploaded17:04
zulwell you start off with kde....and go from there17:05
Davieyjamespage: sorry :)17:06
Davieyzul: Great!17:06
Davieyrbasak: process was ok?17:06
jdstrandhallyn: that should in general be ok, but I run it in a vm17:08
jdstrandand it does fine there (though obviously kvm isn't tested)17:08
zulsmoser: did you get that packaging change in?17:08
jdstrandwell, maybe not obviously, but I have intel here, so no nested kvm17:09
Davieyrbasak: The email address you have as DEBEMAIL, might want to add that to your launchpad profile - so launchpad knows which packages you uploaded :)17:09
Davieyzul: Are you doing a ova upload?17:10
Davieynova*17:10
hallynjdstrand: shouldn't we be close to haveing nested kvm on intel working?17:10
zulDaviey:  yes17:10
smoseri pushed merge proposal17:10
smoser(untested)17:10
jdstrandhallyn: I don't know-- that would be awfully cool though :)17:11
smoserzul, https://code.launchpad.net/~smoser/nova/lp833530/+merge/7385017:11
Davieyzul: Are you adding the 'don't use keystone' bug fix?17:11
zulDaviey: yep17:12
Davieycool17:12
uvirtbotNew bug: #839764 in openssh (main) "package openssh-server 1:5.8p1-1ubuntu3 failed to install/upgrade: sub-processo script post-installation instalado retornou estado de saída de erro 2 " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83976417:41
koolhead17hi all17:50
hallynzul: hey, would you care to sponsor the trivial fix for bug 827798 for me?18:23
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 827798 in lxc "LXC works without warning regardless if cgroup namespaces are properly available" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82779818:23
uvirtbotNew bug: #839796 in nova (universe) "nova-manage complains about missing nova-compute.conf" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83979618:24
zulhallyn: sure18:25
hallyngreat, thx18:25
zulhallyn: done18:26
TheEvilPhoenixDaviey:  just an FYI, tried that server install image youasked me to test... it decided to segfault for me whilst trying to get a list of packkages to install.  not sure whether its the image or my system... but still.18:26
smoserDaviey, so where is the "Daviey cares about these bugs" list ?18:39
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Davieysmoser: the same list, shared at every meeting - http://status.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-server/release-bugs.html18:42
DavieyTheEvilPhoenix: Oh golly!18:43
DavieyTheEvilPhoenix: What sg faulted?18:43
Davieyseg*18:43
smoserDaviey, bug 827590, bug 827598,18:45
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 827590 in nova "cloud-init does not mount ephemeral0 on /mnt in nova" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82759018:45
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 827598 in nova "ephemeral device does not have a filesystem" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82759818:45
smoserthen, i consider bug 837102 and bug 836759 of moderate concern18:45
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 837102 in nova "nova writes libvirt xml 'driver_type' based only on FLAGS.use_cow_images" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83710218:45
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 836759 in nova "nova does not grow qcow disk images correctly" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83675918:45
robbiewadam_g: ping18:46
adam_grobbiew: hey18:49
DavieysmosThanks!18:49
robbiewadam_g: so have you registered for ODS?18:50
robbiewhttp://summit.openstack.org18:51
adam_grobbiew: the summit, no. saw it was full as of earlier this week, so figured i missed my chance. i can wait list, tho. i was about talking attending the conference18:52
Davieysmoser: Are you likely going to drive 837102 ?18:52
TheEvilPhoenixDaviey:  unsure, the segfault caused the installer to </disappear>, and "Segmentation Fault" occurred, prior to the VM halting18:52
robbiewadam_g: ok18:52
TheEvilPhoenixDaviey:  i had the same issue with a Debian unstable image a few days ago, not sure whether its the VM system or not18:52
smoserbug 83710218:52
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 837102 in nova "nova writes libvirt xml 'driver_type' based only on FLAGS.use_cow_images" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83710218:52
robbiewwe have one free sponsor pass left, so should be good to go18:52
adam_grobbiew: ok, so shall i put my name down? i assume that pass will get freed up if my talk is accepted?18:53
robbiewadam_g: make sure to arrange travel and hotel with Grant18:53
robbiewadam_g: that's a good question18:54
TheEvilPhoenixDaviey:  for the next hour or so, or until i surface again, send msgs to me via privmsg18:54
TheEvilPhoenixmy ZNC will log em18:54
robbiewmed_out: zul: do speakers get free passes?18:54
* robbiew assumes so18:54
TheEvilPhoenix</shifting location, out of contact with internet for brief period>18:54
zuli think so18:54
med_outrobbiew, no idea.18:55
med_outwould make sense though18:55
med_outI suspect most of the speakers are also at the Summit.18:55
adam_gugh. having 2 24" monitors doesn't make it easier to multitask. now im trying to do 16 things at once instead of 818:55
med_outheh.18:55
robbiewadam_g: heh...I'll update the wiki...claim the free pass...I've locked it down anyway18:55
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robbiewno more additions18:55
adam_grobbiew: 10-4, thanks18:56
DavieyTheEvilPhoenix: Thanks!18:56
zulbut but my cat would like to come18:59
robbiewttx: any idea on when folks waitlisted will hear back?19:08
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TheEvilPhoenixDaviey:  i can't tell where it segfaulted at all, because i never got past the image... but the fact it also happened with an unrelated ISO as well... makes me think it was my VM19:31
leftyfbDoes anyone know if the apache in 8.04 will be updated with the latest patch for: http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/httpd-announce/201108.mbox/%3C20110826103531.998348F82@minotaur.apache.org%3E20:01
smoserDaviey, what do you think about bug 81001920:21
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 810019 in distribute "UserWarning printed on import pkg_resources'" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/81001920:21
smoserit is more than a little bit annoying20:21
ChmEarltoday I update onerirc 11.10 and pygrub (xen 4.1.1) is now broken20:24
ChmEarloneiric20:24
jmarsdenChmEarl: ask in #ubuntu+120:29
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m4xxi've got a new box with ich10r i'm trying to install with raid 1, i've set up the raid in the bios, when i get to the "detect disks" on first boot of the disk it says it detects and ata raid and asks me if i wish to enable it, if i hit yes, nothing is listed in the partition manager, if i "go back" and re-try teh detect disks section i get presented with a list of drivers. anyone care to point me in the right direct20:48
uvirtbotNew bug: #828366 in virt-viewer (main) "Caps lock state of VM (Windows XP using KVM) gets reversed" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82836620:48
SpamapSwtf, we just had asterisk added to our triage list?21:50
uvirtbotNew bug: #495174 in asterisk (universe) "pbx_lua unable to load modules" [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/49517422:02
uvirtbotNew bug: #517144 in asterisk (universe) "Asterisk 1.6.2.0~rc2-0ubuntu1.2  libpthread-2.10.1.so" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/51714422:07
uvirtbotNew bug: #567483 in asterisk (universe) "installing with "aptitude install asterisk" gives me a report about violated dependencies (libc6-i686)" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/56748322:12
uvirtbotNew bug: #578613 in asterisk "asterisk seg faults in masq_park_call" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/57861322:12
uvirtbotNew bug: #665347 in asterisk (universe) "Asterisk crashes in res_odbc" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/66534722:18
uvirtbotNew bug: #685389 in asterisk (universe) "package asterisk 1:1.6.2.7-1ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: el subproceso script post-installation instalado devolvió el código de salida de error 1" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/68538922:23
DoonzSo does zfs handle the "Green" drives ok or does it have the same problems as a hardware raid card22:25
blackowlhey guys um i own a nas and a server i would like to help with testing releases and data storage22:25
uvirtbotNew bug: #839980 in mysql-5.1 (main) "package mysql-server 5.1.54-1ubuntu4 failed to install/upgrade: problèmes de dépendances - laissé non configuré" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83998023:41

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