[01:43] <MarkDude> akk:  you free on the 24th for a geeknic in Los Gatos?
[01:46] <akk> Yes!
[01:47] <akk> And we could call it Geequinox (okay, the equinox is actually the 23rd, but close enough)
[01:47] <akk> :)
[01:48] <MarkDude> Oh that would be awesome
[01:48] <MarkDude> good idea
[01:48] <MarkDude> Cool I should event details up by early next week
[01:48] <MarkDude> the 17th wasa going to be tooo close
[01:48] <MarkDude> I am going to be in bay for 3 days next week
[01:48] <akk> whew! I'm away on the 17th, but the 23rd would be awesome
[01:49] <MarkDude> then ohio
[01:49] <akk> when's ohio?
[01:49] <MarkDude> then back on the 12th
[01:49] <MarkDude> Seot 11th weekend
[01:49] <MarkDude> sept
[01:49] <MarkDude> lovely time to travel
[01:49] <MarkDude> Dont touch my junk
[01:49] <MarkDude> lol
[01:49] <akk> heh
[02:52] <pleia2> rww: my con(gratulations|dolences) for your recent #defocus privileges ;)
[02:54] <DarkwingDuck> Yay! I'm learning Inkscape hardcore. http://people.ubuntu.com/~david.wonderly/SCaLE10/
[02:54] <rww> pleia2: lol, thanks
[02:59] <pleia2> DarkwingDuck: interested in doing the Kubuntu part of a UserDays tutorial on the 24th?
[03:00] <DarkwingDuck> pleia2, Sure.
[03:00] <pleia2> (but doing it for real this time so I don't need to find a maco at last second :P)
[03:00] <pleia2> I need to find a Lubuntu person too
[03:00] <DarkwingDuck> pleia2, I'll mark it in my calendar. :P:P
[03:00] <pleia2> I figure we each get 20 minutes, I'll do xubuntu
[03:01] <DarkwingDuck> Just an overview of what Kubuntu has to offer?
[03:01] <pleia2> yep, lemme dig up the logs of what maco and I have done in the past
[03:01] <DarkwingDuck> Okay cool, thank you.
[03:01] <pleia2> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDays/01292011/Desktop%20Environments%3A%20Gnome%2C%20KDE%2C%20XFCE
[03:02] <pleia2> instead it'll be KDE, XFCE, LXDE
[03:02] <pleia2> Unity can have its own whole session
[03:06] <DarkwingDuck> We each get 20 or, we get 20 for the DEs?
[03:06] <pleia2> I dunno, I forgot I did that whole intro thing about what DEs are
[03:07] <pleia2> probably we explain what DEs are and each get 10 minutes to say how our favorite one is awesome, then answer questions
[03:07] <pleia2> so less kubuntu, more KDE
[03:07] <DarkwingDuck> That's what I was thinking.
[03:07] <DarkwingDuck> Yes.
[03:08] <DarkwingDuck> And how they differ from Ubuntu/Unity/Gnome/Canonical Ra ra ra
[03:08]  * DarkwingDuck ducks
[03:08] <pleia2> hehe
[03:08] <DarkwingDuck> Who is doing Gnome/Unity?
[03:08] <pleia2> I might ask jorge
[03:08]  * DarkwingDuck grins
[03:08] <pleia2> or tell jorge to find someone, he's good at that
[03:09] <akk> blah, DEs, they're a passing fad, everyone will go back to window managers before long  ;P
[03:09] <DarkwingDuck> hehehe
[03:09] <pleia2> but I think it needs its own session so all the flaming can stay in there session :)
[03:09] <akk> haha
[03:09] <DarkwingDuck> lol
[03:09]  * pleia2 makes sure we have lots of classroom admins around during that session
[03:09] <pleia2> QUESTION: WHY DID YOU RUIN MY LIFE WITH UNITY?!!??!!!11111
[03:09] <pleia2> x100
[03:09] <DarkwingDuck> But, it should be mentioned in the DE session a bit..
[03:10] <pleia2> hehe
[03:10] <pleia2> we can start out by saying "We'll talk about alternate DEs from the default Unity in Ubuntu"
[03:10] <pleia2> that's all :)
[03:10] <DarkwingDuck> Just a "Unity/Gnome will have their own session, this is for the variations".
[03:10] <pleia2> yeah
[03:10] <DarkwingDuck> LOL
[03:10] <DarkwingDuck> You took the words out of my mouth.
[03:12] <DarkwingDuck> Although, I think it's a good idea.
[03:12] <DarkwingDuck> Lubuntu is official now isn't it?
[03:13] <pleia2> yep! :)
[03:13] <pleia2> pretty exciting
[03:13] <DarkwingDuck> ohhh yeah.
[03:16] <DarkwingDuck> pleia2, what's the classroom backroom channel again?
[03:16] <pleia2> #ubuntu-classroom-backstage
[04:08] <bkerensa> pleia2: I found out it was a Conf Kit shipped this morning... That was quick right? I sent the request last night after 7pm =o
[05:08] <DarkwingDuck> philipballew, have you tried https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenVPN
[05:09] <philipballew> no I have not DarkwingDuck Im afraid ill ssh into it. do stuff and eff up the server where I cant connect at all maybe
[05:09] <DarkwingDuck> LOL
[05:10] <rww> thank the gods for LISH
[05:10] <DarkwingDuck> philipballew, After this weekend I'll play with VPNs on my server and give you access... The joys of a static IP address.
[05:10] <philipballew> ive been using no-ip .com lately
[05:11] <philipballew> 2 days till jam
[05:11] <DarkwingDuck> Aye, and I'm still struggling with my damn local mirror.
[05:11] <DarkwingDuck> Well, not fully.
[05:12] <DarkwingDuck> But, with the logistics of having it there.
[05:12] <philipballew> how so?
[05:14] <philipballew> It would probably be easy to set up a vpn. maybr only a few hours of work
[05:14]  * bkerensa needs to find the cheapest colo on the west coast I wonder if its still Hurricane Electric
[06:37] <DarkwingDuck> pleia2, you still awake?
[06:40] <DarkwingDuck> philipballew, setting up the local mirror now...
[06:41] <DarkwingDuck> 74 gigs of info DLing.
[16:09]  * kdub_ should be on irc at night more...
[18:41] <DarkwingDuck> pleia2, woot! We are getting a conf pack for Libertopia.
[18:42] <pleia2> :D
[18:42] <pleia2> and I'll ship the ubuntu banner and tablecloth down after the solano stroll
[18:43] <DarkwingDuck> Whoot! Thanks!
[18:44] <pleia2> we'll probably leave those down there for scale, we can get by with the old california banner for the rest of the year
[18:49] <DarkwingDuck> ok
[18:52] <MarkDude> Can I start making jokes about banners now?
[18:52]  * MarkDude passes
[18:52] <MarkDude> :)
[18:59] <DarkwingDuck> MarkDude, you get my note from last night?
[19:04] <kdub> DarkwingDuck: i don't know anything about libertopia, but from the name, i'd guss its in ocean beach...
[19:05] <DarkwingDuck> Shelter Island.
[19:05] <DarkwingDuck> kdub, I'll fill ya in on saturday.
[19:06] <kdub> oh, i can't come on saturday :-/
[19:06] <DarkwingDuck> Ahh, Okay. BRB
[19:11] <bkerensa> pleia2: I found out officemax does Vinyl banners starting at $99.95 so I might get one before our release party.... I got our posters printed for tomorrow and catering ordered now just gotta go tomorrow and run this jam :)
[19:13] <pleia2> cool :)
[19:22] <MarkDude> DarkwingDuck: no i did not
[23:06] <nhaines> Yay, I'm wrapping things up at work for the three-day weekend.  And by "wrapping things up" I mean I'm shutting down my computers.
[23:06] <pleia2> poor computers
[23:07] <nhaines> They get a reboot every week.  Ubuntu doesn't really need it (well, oneiric does) but Windows sure does!
[23:08] <pleia2> I wondered if that had gotten better with recent windows releases
[23:08] <pleia2> you'd think they'd eventually find the memory leaks that makes windows explode after a week
[23:09] <pleia2> but I guess when your customers are used to frequent reboots already it's not a high priority
[23:09] <pleia2> t-mobile now warns me to reboot my android phone every week, somehow in my mind I've taken this alert as some kind of challenge
[23:09] <nhaines> pleia2: sure, well, I don't have recent Windows releases, ha.
[23:10] <nhaines> Oh, I usually go two or three weeks before I forget to charge it or I want to restart it or something.
[23:10] <nhaines> Why does T-Mobile warn you to reboot every week?
[23:10] <pleia2> it's a t-mobile app, I don't know
[23:10] <nhaines> ha
[23:10] <pleia2> I suspect there are sometimes rogue apps that get stuck and reboots every week make sure customers have a better experience in the long run
[23:11] <pleia2> but yeah, I only reboot if netflix goes crazy and eats my phone (stupid netflix) or I go on a plane
[23:11] <nhaines> ha
[23:11] <nhaines> Yeah, I woke up today and didn't have a notification bar.
[23:11] <nhaines> So reboot was needed.
[23:12] <pleia2> the new market is a disaster for me
[23:12] <pleia2> realized this morning that I hadn't gotten any app upgrades in weeks
[23:13] <pleia2> my market only sees 2 apps installed, there are some "clear market cache, reboot, pray" tricks but none have worked so far
[23:22] <nhaines> pleia2: you'll have to reinstall those apps.  But usually an upgrade doesn't trigger that.
[23:22] <nhaines> (that is, market upgrade usually doesn't break app associations.)
[23:23] <pleia2> nhaines: reinstalling them doesn't help, they still don't show up in my apps
[23:24] <rww> i guess the "feature" in "feature phone" is "it works"
[23:26] <jyo> rww: You still need any more books?
[23:26] <rww> jyo: I'm sorry, my memory is terrible. Books?
[23:26] <jyo> rww: Blog post!
[23:27] <jyo> rww: Textbooks, I mean.
[23:27] <rww> people read that o.O?
[23:27] <rww> one came in today apparently, another two still on backorder
[23:27] <rww> I think I'm going to cancel everything from that bookstore, including the one that came in, and get the ones I actually need from another store that aren't ridiculous
[23:38]  * Ttech wobbles
[23:38] <Ttech> pleia2, I've been told to poke you about cds
[23:38] <pleia2> Ttech: yep, where are you located?
[23:38] <pleia2> (we ship them all over the state, so lots of people have bundles)
[23:39] <Ttech> SF and LA area, LA currently. :/
[23:40] <Ttech> Do you guys ever meet?
[23:41] <pleia2> you might be able to get some from nhaines at his Lake Forest ubuntu hour that's held twice a week, next is sept 8th: http://nhaines.livejournal.com/62158.html
[23:41] <pleia2> the whole team doesn't usually get together, but a lot of us come down for SCaLE in LA every year
[23:42] <pleia2> I also shipped some to DarkwingDuck but he's San Diego and if he has any left he's probably giving them out at their global jam in SD tomorrow
[23:42] <Ttech> mmm
[23:42] <pleia2> will you be in SF soon?
[23:43] <Ttech> Not likely.
[23:43] <pleia2> I can ship one down to you if you need (but I pay for this out of pocket, so it's easier if you meet up with someone in your region)
[23:44] <Ttech> Ah yea, I'm so sad they stopped doing free cds
[23:44] <Ttech> Made it much harder for me to use Ubuntu.
[23:44] <pleia2> not able to download isos?
[23:44] <Ttech> pleia2, It takes me ~10 hours to download Ubuntu
[23:44] <pleia2> ah
[23:44] <Ttech> 4 hours if I'm lucky on some days.
[23:45] <pleia2> well I can ship an 11.04 disk if you need, just email me: lyz@ubuntu.com
[23:45] <pleia2> (I'm leaving for a trip in 15 minutes though, so I won't be able to ship it until next week)
[23:45] <Ttech> Alright.
[23:45] <Ttech> I'll have a go at dist upgrade from 10.04
[23:46] <pleia2> you'll want to go to 10.10 first
[23:46] <pleia2> but once you're done with both upgrades that's as much as downloading a whole iso :(
[23:46] <Ttech> yeah
[23:46] <Ttech> Might steal a friends internet though. :P
[23:47] <DarkwingDuck> I can ship if needed too :)
[23:47] <DarkwingDuck> I'm in San Diego.
[23:48] <bkerensa> Want some of this: http://imgur.com/SuiVM
[23:48] <bkerensa> :)
[23:48] <pleia2> bkerensa: all for your jam?
[23:48] <pleia2> huh, we still haven't gotten our ubuntu books
[23:49] <Ttech> bkerensa, You get all that stuff free?
[23:49] <bkerensa> LOL thats only what I wanted to pull out of my closet
[23:49] <bkerensa> I have 17 boxes of stuff
[23:49] <Ttech> Free?
[23:49] <bkerensa> yeah
[23:49] <bkerensa> ofc
[23:50] <DarkwingDuck> where you get all that swag? :)
[23:50] <Ttech> Is that just because your insane loco people?
[23:51] <DarkwingDuck> :D We are all insane.
[23:51] <bkerensa> Let me see..... O'Reilly, Linux New Media (Ubuntu User), LinuxJournal, ThinkGeek, OpenStack, Apress, No Starch and then since Canonical doesnt like to give stuff for non conferences Linbit bought us stickers from Canonical :P
[23:52] <DarkwingDuck> I should probably contact them for swag to hand out at Libertopia 2011.
[23:52] <bkerensa> Then I got catering sponsored by one company... I got a entire startups corporate office donated for our use.... Beverages and Beer donated :P
[23:52] <bkerensa> Yeah
[23:52] <bkerensa> do it
[23:53] <DarkwingDuck> You have contact info? david.wonderly@kubuntu.org
[23:53] <bkerensa> Our release party will probably be pretty lowkey though not a bunch of swag but I will be buying Oneiric cd's and likely have it catered
[23:53] <DarkwingDuck> Because AFAIK we will have the only FOSS table at Libertopia.
[23:54] <bkerensa> DarkwingDuck: Yeah who's contact info you need? :)
[23:54] <DarkwingDuck> Any and all. :)
[23:54] <kdub> sweet, decent graphics card to replace my broken one on sale for $20 :D
[23:54] <DarkwingDuck> I'm getting into the groove of this event setup stuff.
[23:54] <bkerensa> I will shoot you a e-mail in a sec
[23:55] <DarkwingDuck> speaking of graphics... Any amount of telling my how much I suck would be nice on this... http://people.ubuntu.com/~david.wonderly/SCaLE10/
[23:55] <kdub> DarkwingDuck: looks like the conference badge from last year :P not bad
[23:56] <Ttech> bkerensa, Feel free to send me some of that. :P
[23:56] <DarkwingDuck> I'm tossing more ideas/designs.
[23:56] <DarkwingDuck> I'm working with SCaLE this year.
[23:56] <DarkwingDuck> So, I'll be there and I'll help out where I can at the booth
[23:56] <DarkwingDuck> But, I'll be a busy working man. :)
[23:56] <kdub> workends! :D
[23:57] <bkerensa> Sent
[23:57] <DarkwingDuck> Thanks!
[23:57] <bkerensa> it takes a bit of work
[23:58] <DarkwingDuck> Yup, But it will be awesome. :)
[23:58] <DarkwingDuck> Canonical is sending a conference pack.
[23:58] <bkerensa> cool
[23:58] <DarkwingDuck> So, I'll add these with that and I'll have some massive swag. :)
[23:59] <DarkwingDuck> We'll have a nice booth.
[23:59] <bkerensa> yeah it took on a hour for them to send mine.... I sent it the other day late night and within the first hour of a normal business day they sent it yesterday
[23:59] <Ttech> How do you guys get into all this crazy stuff. :/