| brousch | i'm trying to get 0.2 out the door tonight | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| rick_h_ | :) | 00:00 |
| brousch | small improvements | 00:00 |
| brousch | pushed it. this is too much fun | 00:05 |
| rick_h_ | ruh roh, he's got the bug now | 00:06 |
| brousch | yeah, and tomorrow is my wedding anniversary, so i probably won't be able to touch it ;) | 00:08 |
| rick_h_ | welcome to life hacking on OSS in your spare time | 00:09 |
| rick_h_ | why I do weekly status reports, helps remind me I did get some progress each week | 00:09 |
| snap-l | rick_h_: Got power back | 00:28 |
| snap-l | firing up the rig | 00:28 |
| rick_h_ | k, doing interview | 00:31 |
| jcastro | hey snap-l | 00:35 |
| jcastro | do the dalek voices stay irritating throughout dr. who? | 00:35 |
| jcastro | finishing up S01 right now | 00:35 |
| snap-l | Yes, but they don't show up much | 00:36 |
| jcastro | this first season is dorkfest | 00:36 |
| snap-l | Blame 1960s recording for those voices | 00:37 |
| snap-l | give it time | 00:37 |
| jcastro | it''s very much like TNG's horrible first season | 00:37 |
| jcastro | I can tell it will be good | 00:37 |
| jcastro | I like cheesy | 00:37 |
| snap-l | once you get to Tennant, it'll be awesome | 00:37 |
| jcastro | is that an episode? | 00:37 |
| snap-l | That's an actor | 00:37 |
| snap-l | David Tennant | 00:37 |
| jcastro | is the tardis sound from the 60s? | 00:37 |
| snap-l | 10th doctor | 00:37 |
| jcastro | it sounds like it | 00:37 |
| snap-l | yep | 00:37 |
| jcastro | oh | 00:37 |
| jcastro | he's coming up | 00:37 |
| jcastro | he looks very british | 00:37 |
| snap-l | It's a piano board | 00:37 |
| jcastro | is he the fan fave or something? | 00:38 |
| snap-l | yes, he's scottish | 00:38 |
| snap-l | he's just a damn good actor | 00:38 |
| snap-l | (The tardis sound is a piano string slowed down with some effects) | 00:38 |
| jcastro | ah | 00:39 |
| snap-l | But yeah, that's a classic sound. | 00:40 |
| snap-l | If you really like cheese, try the Tom Baker episodes once you've gotten in to the David Tennant doctor | 00:40 |
| snap-l | The Key of Time is especially wonky. | 00:41 |
| jcastro | is he the 11th? | 00:41 |
| snap-l | Matt Smith is 11. | 00:41 |
| snap-l | David Tennant is 10 | 00:41 |
| jcastro | I am watching 9 turn into 10 right now | 00:41 |
| snap-l | and you'll want to watch Tennant before watching Matt Smith | 00:41 |
| snap-l | Ah, good | 00:41 |
| jcastro | how come this dude was only around for one season | 00:41 |
| jcastro | I kind of like him | 00:41 |
| snap-l | so you're beyond Bad Wolf, etc? | 00:41 |
| snap-l | I don't think they expected it to continue | 00:41 |
| jcastro | I am ending bad wolf | 00:41 |
| jcastro | last episode of S01 | 00:42 |
| jcastro | oh, looks like the doctor just had light coming out of his mouth | 00:42 |
| snap-l | Yea, that was good, but it gets better | 00:42 |
| jcastro | not dying | 00:42 |
| snap-l | regeneration | 00:42 |
| snap-l | (long story) | 00:42 |
| jcastro | yeah I am familiar with it | 00:42 |
| jcastro | I thought they were going into that | 00:42 |
| jcastro | but it was something else | 00:42 |
| jcastro | he's still #9 so far | 00:42 |
| jcastro | I am conflicted though | 00:43 |
| jcastro | I only noticed "Bad Wolf" in one episode up to this point | 00:43 |
| jcastro | which means now I have to freaking go back and find them all | 00:43 |
| snap-l | Too bad you're not in MI | 00:44 |
| snap-l | I have S1-5 on DVD | 00:44 |
| snap-l | er, 1-4 | 00:44 |
| snap-l | S5 is Matt Smith, and I don't have that yet. | 00:44 |
| jcastro | oh ok, now he regenned | 00:45 |
| jcastro | lol this guy is way more english | 00:45 |
| snap-l | jcastro: Let me know when you start buying Tardises on thinkgeek | 00:46 |
| snap-l | because it will happen | 00:46 |
| jcastro | heh | 00:47 |
| jcastro | I already asked the uk team for pics of them in tardises | 00:47 |
| jcastro | http://visualcrack.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/dr_who_tennant_narrowweb__300x4300.jpg | 00:47 |
| jcastro | lol | 00:47 |
| jcastro | tell me that isn't the most english thing you've ever seen ^ | 00:47 |
| snap-l | Oh totally | 00:48 |
| jcastro | hey | 00:48 |
| jcastro | is it the same dude when he regens? | 00:48 |
| jcastro | or just a new body? | 00:48 |
| snap-l | New dude | 00:49 |
| snap-l | new personality | 00:49 |
| snap-l | but same person | 00:49 |
| jcastro | oh ok | 00:49 |
| jcastro | so each one is unique, but still the same | 00:49 |
| jcastro | like Dax. :) | 00:50 |
| snap-l | yeah | 00:50 |
| snap-l | *sigh* like dax | 00:50 |
| jcastro | heh | 00:50 |
| jcastro | so in the real world | 00:50 |
| jcastro | do they change the doctor like when they want to refresh the show? | 00:51 |
| snap-l | Actor changes | 00:52 |
| jcastro | right | 00:53 |
| jcastro | so is it like "so and so wants to move on, new doctor time" | 00:53 |
| jcastro | or is it "ratings sucking, people are getting sick of this guy, new blood time." | 00:53 |
| jcastro | like, if they would have said "same TNG, just no more picard, new captain", we would have rioted in the streets | 00:54 |
| jcastro | though, I suppose with this show it's expected to have new doctors | 00:54 |
| snap-l | Nah, more like actor wants to move on | 00:54 |
| jcastro | snap-l: man, it's like I found a whole new world to play in | 00:54 |
| snap-l | initially it was because the first doctor just got too old to continue | 00:54 |
| snap-l | yep | 00:54 |
| jcastro | also | 00:56 |
| jcastro | see my last blog | 00:56 |
| jcastro | and get yourself some bon scott | 00:56 |
| snap-l | That good, eh? | 01:27 |
| snap-l | rick_h_: http://getsatisfaction.com/kobo/topics/kobos_are_a_bad_deal | 01:58 |
| rick_h_ | lol | 01:58 |
| snap-l | Right between the eyes | 02:00 |
| Blazeix | snap-l: well written post! 'Darrel' is pretty ballsy to just copy-paste 'pls to be giving me ticket number.' | 02:06 |
| snap-l | Thanks. | 02:09 |
| snap-l | I think 'Darrel' is likely an outsourced person who got stuck with a bad situation | 02:09 |
| jcastro | what's a kobo? | 02:15 |
| snap-l | eBook reader platform similar to Kindle | 02:17 |
| snap-l | they have iOS readers as well as eBook hardware | 02:17 |
| jcastro | are they epubs or what? | 02:22 |
| snap-l | Yeah, they are | 02:24 |
| snap-l | Used to be partnered with Borders | 02:24 |
| snap-l | Good morning | 11:55 |
| snap-l | http://ryanbigg.com/2010/12/ubuntu-ruby-rvm-rails-and-you/ | 12:02 |
| snap-l | "Under no circumstance should you install Ruby, Rubygems or any Ruby-related packages from apt-get. This system is out-dated and leads to major headaches. Avoid it for Ruby-related packages. We do Ruby, we know what's best. Trust us. | 12:02 |
| brousch | heh | 12:03 |
| brousch | understandable | 12:03 |
| snap-l | Yeah, I'm cleaning out the ruby packages | 12:04 |
| snap-l | may give things a go under rvm to see what happens | 12:04 |
| snap-l | I mean, it's not their fault. I don't use .debs for python, save to bootstrap virtualenv | 12:05 |
| Wolfger | Morning. | 12:05 |
| Wolfger | Yeah, apt-get fails sometimes.... | 12:06 |
| Wolfger | on the other hand, they could run their own repository and allow people to apt-get the "good stuff". | 12:06 |
| snap-l | Of course, this really makes me nervous: | 12:09 |
| snap-l | With git-core and curl installed we’ll be able to install RVM with this command: | 12:09 |
| snap-l | bash < <(curl -s https://rvm.beginrescueend.com/install/rvm) | 12:09 |
| snap-l | Yeah, this is getting done in a VM first | 12:31 |
| snap-l | I'm writing up a little blog post about this | 12:48 |
| rick_h_ | cool, I keep thinking of playing with some ruby and messing with rvm/bundler | 12:50 |
| snap-l | Well, it's going to be a little inflammatory. :) | 12:52 |
| snap-l | Mostly "please package this" | 12:52 |
| snap-l | Ho boy. | 12:53 |
| snap-l | rvm install 1.8 | 12:53 |
| snap-l | essentially does curl to download .. | 12:54 |
| snap-l | curl: (78) RETR response: 550 | 12:54 |
| snap-l | ERROR: The requested url does not exist: 'ftp://ftp.ruby-lang.org/pub/ruby/1.8/ruby-1.8-.tar.bz2' | 12:54 |
| snap-l | Starting to think Python developers are rocket scientists by comparison. :) | 12:57 |
| snap-l | it is cool though that you can use different versions of ruby | 13:01 |
| ColonelPanic001 | 'morning | 13:10 |
| _stink_ | hi | 13:11 |
| === jjesse_ is now known as jjesse | ||
| snap-l | blergh, who ordered the humidity? | 13:18 |
| jjesse | i couldn't believe how hot it was last night when i went for my run at 7pm | 13:19 |
| snap-l | Yeah, I'd believe it | 13:20 |
| ColonelPanic001 | high of 67 on Monday. | 13:23 |
| ColonelPanic001 | 98 today, 67 Monday | 13:23 |
| ColonelPanic001 | I listened to the raido and did this: >:-| >:-| :-\ ... :D | 13:24 |
| * ColonelPanic001 is an artist | 13:24 | |
| snap-l | heh | 13:34 |
| Wolfger | Monday is going to be beautiful | 13:37 |
| snap-l | OK, I have to recant | 13:37 |
| snap-l | RVM is beautiful | 13:37 |
| snap-l | the install makes my ops side twitch like crazy, but using it is nice. | 13:38 |
| snap-l | and bundler is pretty sweet | 13:38 |
| snap-l | It's a little slow, though | 13:45 |
| snap-l | And by little slow, I mean on the order of minutes. | 13:47 |
| Wolfger | That's slow. I don't think anything has taken "minutes" since the last time I booted XP ;-) | 13:50 |
| rick_h_ | snap-l: http://blog.dynatrace.com/2011/09/02/how-server-side-performance-affects-mobile-user-experience/ | 13:56 |
| rick_h_ | exactly part of what I was chatting about last night | 13:56 |
| snap-l | rick_h_: Oh, no doubt | 13:58 |
| rick_h_ | love that, mobile site takes longer for the phone than the non-mobile lol | 13:58 |
| snap-l | streamlining to one request is going to be good no matter how you slice it | 13:58 |
| rick_h_ | well I mean the one domain vs multiple domains | 13:58 |
| snap-l | That too | 13:58 |
| rick_h_ | using a static.xxx and such is a big win | 13:58 |
| snap-l | Wasn't arguing against that at all. :) | 13:59 |
| rick_h_ | just thought it was funny to see an article right after our lococast chat | 13:59 |
| snap-l | heh | 13:59 |
| rick_h_ | kind of cool, been getting better uverse speeds with the tv service off | 14:00 |
| Wolfger | makes sense | 14:00 |
| jrwren | snap-l: saw your tweet about ruby pkgs. | 14:18 |
| jrwren | I'm torn on this issue. | 14:19 |
| jrwren | IMO rvm and gem works so well, I don't see the point in solving the problem. | 14:19 |
| jrwren | I'm not even sure ruby should be packaged for ubuntu | 14:19 |
| jrwren | that said, what if I want to run on a system w/o compiler, or a cpu memory contrained system where compiler is not practical. | 14:19 |
| jrwren | I guess ruby is too slow and bloated to run on a cpu&memory contrained system. ;p | 14:20 |
| snap-l | jrwren: Well, it's the same with python and Perl | 14:22 |
| snap-l | They have their own repos that they like to use | 14:22 |
| snap-l | I'm also once again having fun trying to get postgresql to work with Ruby. | 14:23 |
| jrwren | not exactly teh same, since the distro itself uses TONS of python and perl | 14:31 |
| jrwren | i don't know that ubuntu uses ruby itself. | 14:31 |
| jrwren | .. | 14:31 |
| jrwren | does anyone who is coming to the jam tomorrow have some shrink tubing that they could bring and sell to me? I need as small as possible | 14:32 |
| snap-l | jrwren: It doesn't, but you can install it if needed | 14:34 |
| snap-l | And this is where we remember that installing a database adapter in Ruby is a severe pain in the ass | 14:49 |
| jrwren | is it? | 14:51 |
| jrwren | i just gem install mysql :p | 14:51 |
| snap-l | gem uninstall jrwren | 15:01 |
| snap-l | Hm, still here. | 15:01 |
| snap-l | huzzah! I have tracks again | 15:08 |
| _stink_ | so what was the key? getting rid of all packaged ruby? | 15:09 |
| snap-l | yes | 15:09 |
| jrwren | lame. | 15:09 |
| jrwren | so you are all rvm now? | 15:09 |
| snap-l | Well, and using RVM | 15:09 |
| jrwren | hilarious! | 15:09 |
| snap-l | yep | 15:09 |
| jrwren | so... what is the right thing for ubuntu in general? | 15:10 |
| snap-l | In general? get someone to update the gem packages in a more timely fashion | 15:10 |
| snap-l | Good luck with that | 15:10 |
| jrwren | well, perhaps WE should do that? | 15:11 |
| jrwren | or maybe there is a ruby ppa that makes a good rvm alternative? | 15:11 |
| snap-l | I know that redhat / fedora have a pretty nice way to package up Python eggs as RPMs | 15:12 |
| snap-l | maybe if there was a scripted and repeatable way to create gem packages | 15:12 |
| jrwren | i'm sure there is. | 15:12 |
| jrwren | i know deb has it for cpan modules and eggs. | 15:12 |
| snap-l | Also would help if the Rub community wasn't so mac centric where packaging is essentially brew or macports | 15:12 |
| jrwren | there has to be some good debian pattern and tools for ruby gems | 15:12 |
| jrwren | no, its not brew and macports at all. its all rvm and gem from source. | 15:13 |
| snap-l | jrwren: What I meant was that brew and macports are used just to lay the groundwork to install the gems | 15:13 |
| jrwren | and ruby community is still 99% deploy onto linux. The Mac stuff is just for the dev env. | 15:13 |
| jrwren | ah yeah, brew and macports for the C deps | 15:13 |
| snap-l | _stink_: also I ran into trouble with my old tracks install | 15:15 |
| snap-l | _stink_: I installed new, and redid the config files | 15:15 |
| _stink_ | it's been a while since i used tracks. there's a reliable export/import? | 15:16 |
| _stink_ | i would guess so. | 15:16 |
| snap-l | I'm not sure | 15:16 |
| snap-l | I just have evening backups of postgresql to help be be bold. ;) | 15:17 |
| _stink_ | heh, phew. | 15:17 |
| _stink_ | unless you use each reinstall as a chance to cut stuff from your list. | 15:17 |
| snap-l | Nah, I just do a db:migrate and hope things don't blow up | 15:18 |
| snap-l | and if they do, i grab a backup. ;) | 15:18 |
| _stink_ | i would love it if my todo list blew up :P | 15:19 |
| snap-l | what will be interesting is to see how this will work for a reboot | 15:19 |
| snap-l | _stink_: trust me, you wouldn't | 15:19 |
| _stink_ | i guess that's why i should do the weekly review | 15:19 |
| snap-l | _stink_: It's not like it all goes away | 15:19 |
| snap-l | _stink_: ahem... (wheels out the soapbox) if you're not doing the weekly review, you're not doing GTD. | 15:19 |
| _stink_ | i confess fully that i'm not doing GTD :) | 15:20 |
| _stink_ | i use multiple tags! | 15:20 |
| snap-l | Of course, if you're blowing up your system on a weekly basis, you're not doing GTD either. | 15:20 |
| _stink_ | hehe | 15:20 |
| Wolfger | "doing getting"? I think you've inserted a superfluous verb there... | 16:20 |
| snap-l | "Getting Things Done" is a trademark for the system. | 16:23 |
| Wolfger | Ah, I see. | 16:25 |
| Wolfger | I rather disagree with allowing a sentence fragment that describes a process to be trademarked, but since when did IP lawyers start listening to me? :-p | 16:26 |
| Wolfger | ...and nixternal shows up on the front page of a Google search for that sentence fragment. LOL | 16:28 |
| Wolfger | Shawn Powers too | 16:28 |
| snap-l | Only my random album mix could go from Herbie Hancock to The Faceless | 16:42 |
| snap-l | blergh... time to relocate to the bedroom | 17:07 |
| rick_h_ | heat is rising | 17:53 |
| snap-l | Yeah, it is | 18:23 |
| snap-l | damn scammers | 19:19 |
| snap-l | apparently if you put your resume on monster.com, you'll get nothing but boiler-room scams | 19:20 |
| krondor | snap-l: are you interested in a career change? work from home, be your own boss, flexible hours, no limit to your earning! | 19:20 |
| snap-l | even better: we need your bank account numbe for direct deposit (and withdrawl) | 19:21 |
| gamerchick02 | Monster, Careerbuilder, etc. they all attract scams. | 19:21 |
| snap-l | Yeah, I'm glad I removed my stuff from there | 19:22 |
| gamerchick02 | i get porn spam from them, seriously. | 19:22 |
| gamerchick02 | i did too. well, i have an account, but there's nothing in it *creepy woo-woo noises* | 19:22 |
| snap-l | Wow, that's awesome | 19:23 |
| snap-l | was it at least good porn spam? | 19:23 |
| gamerchick02 | no. it was strange porn spam | 19:24 |
| gamerchick02 | this was several years ago though. | 19:24 |
| gamerchick02 | i get more stiffy pill spam now though | 19:24 |
| snap-l | Might come in handy someday; you never know. | 19:25 |
| snap-l | (note: not really) | 19:25 |
| gamerchick02 | hehe | 19:25 |
| nullspace | silly script of the day http://se7enlabs.org/img_swril.js | 20:26 |
| Blazeix | nice | 20:29 |
| _stink_ | damnit. anyone know of a desktop jabber client that supports anonymous logins? empathy and pidgin don't afaict. | 20:50 |
| ColonelPanic001 | no | 20:57 |
| _stink_ | :( | 20:58 |
| rick_h_ | Blazeix: ahhh! http://techcrunch.com/2011/09/02/amazon-kindle-tablet/ | 21:13 |
| rick_h_ | "As far as the existing e-ink-based Kindles, all I’ve heard is that they’ll continue to co-exist with this new tablet (though the DX may or may not stick around). " | 21:13 |
| Blazeix | "Amazon has been working on a multi-touch screen/e-ink hybrid tablet device. But that’s nowhere near completion, I’m told." | 21:21 |
| rick_h_ | yea, I've heard that there are some devices testing that out | 21:21 |
| Blazeix | I'm sure they'll keep e-ink around, but I hope they have another release between now and that rumored device. | 21:21 |
| rick_h_ | but the thicknesses/tricks involved is a bit crazy | 21:22 |
| rick_h_ | and the price of dual displays in there... | 21:22 |
| rick_h_ | jrwren: looks like I will be out tomorrow | 22:58 |
| rick_h_ | if you can still bring out my power cord | 22:58 |
| rick_h_ | that's be grat | 22:58 |
| rick_h_ | great that is | 22:58 |
| rick_h_ | http://techcrunch.com/2011/09/02/video-der-kritzler-an-automatic-scribbling-machine/ kind of cool arduino | 23:58 |
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