[00:12] <average_guy> ok, got dinner out of the way
[00:20] <pace_t_zulu> wrst orias Svpernova09 cyberanger ... PoC ping
[00:24] <pace_t_zulu> is anyone here besides myself and average_guy?
[00:25] <average_guy> um? hullo?
[00:26] <pace_t_zulu> hi average guy
[00:26] <pace_t_zulu> just trying to figure out the turnout for our meeting <5min from now
[00:26] <average_guy> well, Hi! At least we're here
[00:26] <nathandyer> Blue leader checking in
[00:26] <pace_t_zulu> i suspect it may be the titans game
[00:29] <pace_t_zulu> hi nathandyer
[00:29] <pace_t_zulu> glad you could make it
[00:29] <nathandyer> Thanks pace_t_zulu! Happy to be here.
[00:31] <pace_t_zulu> brb guys ... relocating <1 mile away ... hopefully we'll have a few more arrivals
[00:32] <average_guy> groovy
[00:44] <pace_t_zulu> back
[00:45] <pace_t_zulu> wrst orias Svpernova09 cyberanger ping
[00:45] <pace_t_zulu> so nathandyer what region of tn are you in? east, west or middle?
[00:46] <nathandyer> I'm from East TN
[00:46] <pace_t_zulu> ok so you and average_guy are in the same region
[00:46] <pace_t_zulu> we were planning on discussing release parties tonight
[00:46] <average_guy> Where thee GOOD ppl are
[00:47] <nathandyer> The best, really, but who's keeping count?
[00:47] <pace_t_zulu> nathandyer and average_guy y'all both in knoxville?
[00:47] <average_guy> I yam
[00:48] <nathandyer> I'm from Elizabethton, almost as far East as possible
[00:48] <pace_t_zulu> cyberanger is y'alls Point of Contact for East TN
[00:48] <pace_t_zulu> he is in Cleveland TN
[00:48] <pace_t_zulu> he won't be available tonight
[00:48] <pace_t_zulu> due to a prior engagement
[00:49] <pace_t_zulu> average_guy and nathandyer, would y'all be interested in a release party for Ubuntu 11.10?
[00:49] <pace_t_zulu> #startmeeting
[00:49] <MootBot> Meeting started at 19:49. The chair is pace_t_zulu.
[00:49] <MootBot> Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE]
[00:49] <pace_t_zulu> o/
[00:50] <pace_t_zulu> [link] http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/tennessee.team/156/detail/
[00:50] <MootBot> LINK received:  http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/tennessee.team/156/detail/
[00:50] <pace_t_zulu> [topic] Ubuntu 11.10 Release Parties
[00:50] <MootBot> New Topic:  Ubuntu 11.10 Release Parties
[00:50] <pace_t_zulu> average_guy and nathandyer sound off if you're here - for attendance purposes
[00:51] <average_guy> present
[00:51] <nathandyer> present
[00:51] <average_guy> and down for a release party
[00:52] <cyberanger> pace_t_zulu: that maybe a re-occuring thing too, but won't overlap often
[00:52] <pace_t_zulu> cyberanger: fantastic
[00:52] <pace_t_zulu> nathandyer and average_guy ... cyberanger is the East TN Point of Contact
[00:52] <cyberanger> (if I didn't walk here, left when it ended, I'd be ontime
[00:52] <pace_t_zulu> cyberanger: nathandyer is in Elizabethton and average_guy is in knoxville
[00:52] <cyberanger> but first meet, later than ususal, so I'll rea the notes
[00:53] <pace_t_zulu> cyberanger: we just started now
[00:53] <cyberanger> that makes knox the middle-ish area
[00:53] <cyberanger> ah, good to know
[00:53] <pace_t_zulu> cyberanger: that's where i was going  with it ... so this would be more your arena
[00:54] <pace_t_zulu> cyberanger: may i yield to you with regards to the current topic - seeing as everyone present (myself excluded) is from east tn
[00:56] <pace_t_zulu> [idea] knoxville is most central between cyberanger and nathandyer
[00:56] <MootBot> IDEA received:  knoxville is most central between cyberanger and nathandyer
[00:57] <cyberanger> that might be a little off, for a meeting we can vary some
[00:57] <cyberanger> are you both wanting a release party?
[00:58] <nathandyer> I would like to see one, but I think it is unlikely I would be able to attend due to my current circumstances. But, who knows?
[00:58] <pace_t_zulu> cyberanger: average_guy expressed interest ... he's in knoxville
[00:58] <average_guy> I think "wanting" is a strong word, but as I am new to the team, I would come check it out
[00:58] <pace_t_zulu> cyberanger: anyone else you know of in the knoxville area?
[00:59] <pace_t_zulu> seems inappropriate to be planning a middle tn meeting with no other middle tn members present
[00:59] <cyberanger> till today I thought i was it again
[01:00] <cyberanger> walking back home, 10-15m
[01:00] <pace_t_zulu> cyberanger: if it's all the same to you ... i'm considering adjourning
[01:01] <pace_t_zulu> cyberanger: perhaps you can carry on the discussion with nathandyer and average_guy
[01:01] <pace_t_zulu> how do y'all feel about that?
[01:01] <average_guy> agreed
[01:02] <nathandyer> agreed
[01:02] <pace_t_zulu> motion to adjourn ... does anyone second that motion?
[01:02] <average_guy> second
[01:02] <pace_t_zulu> #endmeeting
[01:02] <MootBot> Meeting finished at 20:02.
[01:02] <pace_t_zulu> i'm going to watch the titans
[01:04] <cyberanger> halfway home
[01:07] <average_guy> cyberanger: whatchin doin walkin?
[01:11] <nathandyer> I hate to skip out, guys, but I have some stuff I have to get caught up on for tomorrow. It's been fun!
[01:12] <cyberanger> back
[01:12] <cyberanger> nathandyer: glad to see you at a meeting
[01:12] <average_guy> goodnite nathandyer
[01:13] <nathandyer> cyberanger Glad to be here! Night average_guy!
[01:14] <cyberanger> average_guy: the hard thing with our size still, if a single person misses, it's two at a restraunt on a day off
[01:14] <average_guy> no doubt
[01:14] <cyberanger> if two people miss, even worse
[01:15] <average_guy> you say THAT like it's happened
[01:15] <cyberanger> on top of that, if the one that shows isn't a local....
[01:16] <cyberanger> well, we've had size issues in this group, big on IRC, in a very big state
[01:16] <cyberanger> prying that cat5e from somebody's hands to come out, transportation issues, high gas costs
[01:17] <average_guy> yeah, I feel ya
[01:17] <cyberanger> there is always a reason to expect the potential for a low turnout
[01:18] <cyberanger> once myself (I've been the head of east tn twice now, trustee for nearly a year in the middle) and a different head of west tn met up in middle tn
[01:19] <average_guy> well, here's my thing...  I don't understand the point of a "release party" or this group in general really
[01:19] <cyberanger> we were expecting two or three more from middle tn, luckily nlug did get the news, 4 at a table, my drive met nearly every detour & delay imaginable
[01:20] <cyberanger> new release of ubuntu, we party, lemme fire up my main laptop (not this cli only netbook) and maybe I can help show the idea better
[01:20] <cyberanger> this group, that's a tricker one, means defining people
[01:21] <cyberanger> Unit193: fyi, pianobar on underpowered netbook, nice tunes, no flash crash
[01:21] <average_guy> I mean, the general goal of this group is what?  Why was it created?
[01:24] <average_guy> Simply to advocate the use of Ubuntu in the local community?
[01:24] <cyberanger> well, I can tell you why we ( pace_t_zulu wrst myself & others who I don't see present tonight ) restarted the group in Dec. 2008
[01:25] <cyberanger> we all had an intrest in ubuntu, and an intrest in learning, sharing & swapping expirences about our use of it
[01:25] <average_guy> awesome
[01:25] <cyberanger> there are different reasons it starts, I think you hit canonical's goal for it on the head though
[01:25] <average_guy> so what is the goal of a "release party"
[01:26] <average_guy> just to check out the new release?
[01:26] <cyberanger> (something some of us are willing to do, however a little reluctant I must admit myself, being that I'm not a fan of the current release)
[01:26] <cyberanger> well, it varies by event, in short, a celebration for another release
[01:27] <cyberanger> but some groups have gear they hand out (ubuntu cd's t-shirts, so on)
[01:27] <cyberanger> others have demo of it setup
[01:27] <average_guy> so, how do WE get that?
[01:28] <cyberanger> our attitude in knoxville towards that in the past was the simple approach, show off our setups at best, but otherwise dinner & chat, a good night offline
[01:29] <cyberanger> I think the release party is hard to describe due to having to be at it to help define it
[01:29] <average_guy> cool
[01:29] <cyberanger> sorta a group defines the mood
[01:29] <cyberanger> (I may do cd's, but can't afford cd's, shirts & gas to knoxville, gotta draw the line)
[01:30] <average_guy> Lol, No, you need to get  cononical to come off that stuff.
[01:32] <cyberanger> average_guy: can you travel?
[01:33] <average_guy> I have a jeep
[01:33] <average_guy> I not rich though
[01:34] <wrst> cyberanger: sorry got tied up!
[01:35] <cyberanger> yeah, same boat, I see any travelling favors somebody here, if it was just you & me, I'd see about merging with a party due east, I'm also considering we both head to Elizabethton for the release party, if nathandyer 's circumstances are merely tranportation
[01:36] <cyberanger> but yeah, same boat, if I do a knox thing, it's 100mi of gas, at 16mpg, not too pretty
[01:36] <average_guy> I'm down for whatever
[01:36] <cyberanger> wrst: plans in cookeville?
[01:36] <cyberanger> pace_t_zulu: nashville?
[01:37] <cyberanger> average_guy: how far is reasonable, for a decent turnout
[01:38] <cyberanger> (I don't mind doing it for three people with that turn out actually happening, I actually don't mind doing it for two people, but parties = crowds, we all know three's a crowd ;-))
[01:38] <cyberanger> wrst: you are a TN PoC now ;-) hope you'd consider a cookeville event ;-)
[01:40] <average_guy>  Elizabethton is pretty far
[01:42] <wrst> cyberanger: not for sure we gots a month let me see what can get going :)
[01:43] <cyberanger> wrst: seems klug has bit the bullet, and I'm getting a close view of cooklug
[01:44] <cyberanger> looking at boosting numbers, if we actually have an event, I wanna try and insure some turnout (esp with new intrest)
[01:48] <cyberanger> wrst: has cooklug actually gone quiet
[01:49] <cyberanger> ?
[01:49] <cyberanger> I mean, are they active
[01:50] <cyberanger> average_guy: one of the hard parts with this is we used to invite the lugs to insure a little more turn out when we were smaller, now we have one lug in east tn, here in chattanooga
[01:50] <cyberanger> next closest is asheville, nc or nashville, tn
[01:51] <cyberanger> in terms of actitivy that is
[01:52] <average_guy> yeah, sounds like we need more membership in east TN.
[01:54] <cyberanger> overall numbers vary, releases they tend to grow, holidays fellas disapper for family, summer idk, family too I guess
[01:55] <cyberanger> so we're kinda right there in the slow spot, whole state needs a boost
[01:56] <wrst> cyberanger: cooklug is pretty well quiet
[01:57] <wrst> but cyberanger we have quality!
[01:57] <cyberanger> the loco you mean, or cooklug?
[01:58] <wrst> loco!
[01:58] <wrst> cyberanger: in cooklug two of the main guys moved off including igneous who are speaking with
[02:03] <average_guy> I'm not really that excited about a new release either. I rode mint till the wheels fell off - support was over, couldn't get features I wanted.. I don't NEED to upgrade every 6 mo.
[02:04] <average_guy> why I've been interested in rolling distro's lately
[02:04] <average_guy> but what I've GOT it workin for me
[02:04] <average_guy> *is
[02:05] <cyberanger> wrst: ah yea, that we do, (my big mouth would like to add, more quality than unity has)
[02:05] <cyberanger> average_guy: debian testing (and distros based on it) are pretty close to rolling as one can get without going crazy with arch & slackware
[02:06] <average_guy> yeah, I'm delving into arch
[02:06] <average_guy> I like the idea of it
[02:07] <wrst> arch is actually pretty stable, but average_guy, cyberanger unity in 11.10 is really looking nice so I'm thinking by LTS time Ubuntu will hit another home run like they did with 10.04 and 8.04
[02:09] <average_guy> That IS my main complaint about Ubuntu.. I don't want to keep upgrading.. I'm not really seeing any increased functionality, just different themes and visual stuff..
[02:09] <average_guy> I don't care that much about how it looks
[02:12] <wrst> average_guy: i have to agree with you somewhat on ubuntu seems like its much more looks oriented, but to get it out to the masses a slick interface is necessary
[02:13] <average_guy> that is true
[02:13] <cyberanger> wrst: I degress, I think bugs getting fixed is a bigger priority, followed shortly by documentation for your own product
[02:14] <cyberanger> looks are nice, but why devote resources to it, if you don't take time to document your work
[02:15] <average_guy> Idk. To me, Linux is general's strength is it's stability.  That's what attracts people.  You can't try to compete with Apple on cool interfaces
[02:15] <wrst> cyberanger:  can't argue there becaue ubuntu's documentation sucks
[02:16] <cyberanger> they moved the buttons over in 10.04, a large outroar came from it, they said it was to assist in a new notification bar, and I still have yet to see that bar
[02:16] <cyberanger> confuses former windows users I'm trying to convert
[02:17] <wrst> yeah that was i think because shuttleworth has a lust for macs
[02:17] <cyberanger> some interface choices seem to be counterproductive to new users too
[02:32] <cyberanger> average_guy: next meeting we'll see about release parties (as trustee, I was pretty insistant about community events, I'm trying to keep that same insistant requirement here, it's a good community event, near the moment everyone seems to be looking for a celebration of sorts)
[02:33] <average_guy> cool
[02:43] <cyberanger> man, just found out the thrashers moved
[02:44] <cyberanger> winnipeg nedded a pro team again, but it stole one of two pro rinks from me (granted the preds have been better on average it seems, I just don't like fighting my way in & out of down town)
[02:44]  * cyberanger points out to everyone in the area, I'm a hockey nut, not a american football fan
[02:47] <wrst> cyberanger: didn't know the thrashers had moved, can't say atlanta is exactly a hockey hotbed
[02:48] <cyberanger> wrst: and the stats prove it
[02:49] <cyberanger> winnipeg fought for their team, and the Chairman of the NHL at that time was moving small (but dedicated) markets to warm weather cities, amoung them was atlanta
[02:50] <wrst> yeah didn't notice that but I don't keep up with much off season hockey short of what i hear about the preds on nashville sports talk
[02:50] <cyberanger> and this is just proof that guy (while I commend him for trying to export hockey further, and areas was sucessful) was a nut for dislodging great fans from their teams
[02:51] <cyberanger> yeah, same here (I'm looking at dates for a few months out though, but probally just gonna go with the ususal small league trip (or get lucky at a blackhawks game ;-))
[02:51] <cyberanger> and noticed that looking for atlanta
[02:53] <cyberanger> during the season though, bam
[02:54] <wrst> well i'm off to bed have a good night cyberanger, average_guy
[02:57] <cyberanger> night wrst
[02:57]  * cyberanger considers the same idea, tosses it around
[02:58]  * cyberanger gets bored, grabs a tennis ball to toss instead
[03:02]  * cyberanger gets bored again, sees a shiney penny, puts it in his wallet & goes to watch Mr. Deeds, night all
[03:04] <cyberanger> http://www.crackle.com/c/Mr._Deeds if anyone else wishes
[05:43] <Unit193> Looks like cyberanger didn't put me on anything like he said he would ;)
[13:40] <Xpistos> What up yo s!
[13:55] <cyberanger> Unit193: IRC has a problem with fine print
[13:56] <cyberanger> Xpistos: not much how's your day
[13:57] <Xpistos> not too shabby
[14:08] <cyberanger> Unit193: fine print: Unit193 will orginize the first tennessee loco release party in another state, failure to do so will make you my minion for life >:-)
[14:09] <wrst> cyberanger: I thought Unit193 was your minion anyway ? :)
[14:09] <cyberanger> lol
[16:43]  * cyberanger is suprised Unit193 has yet to comment on my mininion joke
[17:02]  * cyberanger figures he's having an offline expierence
[17:55] <cyberanger> XpistosAtLunch: bring me back some too
[17:55]  * cyberanger is hungry
[18:20] <Unit193> I'm online now though
[18:22] <wrst> about time you get here to defend yourself Unit193
[18:23] <Unit193> Can't, it's about 97F here and I'll be lucky to fight that off...
[18:28]  * cyberanger laughs, gives his minion a day off, after all, I'm not running hell (and is sounds as hot as hell there ;-))
[19:08] <XpistosAtLunch> Peanut butter anyone
[19:08]  * cyberanger raises his peanut butter covered hand
[19:11] <Unit193> It's really funny if you read that as head... No thanks though
[19:12]  * cyberanger couldn't find the cookie jar
[19:17] <cyberanger> ow, I think I bit a finger, no never mind, just a thumb, I only need one of those for the space bar
[20:44] <Unit193> Being in AC is so great...
[20:48] <cyberanger> Unit193: as somebody who (willingly, for a change) just got done walking a mile in a town ignorant of pedestrain rights under traffic laws, I agree
[20:48] <Xpistos> That settles it Windows 7 is stupid!
[20:48] <Unit193> We don't have it at home, but I don't walk places in this heat
[20:48] <Unit193> Xpistos: I wouldn't disagree. What's it doing?
[20:52] <cyberanger> Xpistos: I see a typo there, you added a 7
[20:56] <Xpistos> lol
[20:56] <Xpistos> specifically and in general
[20:57] <Xpistos> Couldn't map a network drive using the Share name but could with the ip address
[20:57] <Xpistos> Stupid
[22:49] <average_guy> Why ARE you walking cyberanger?
[22:50] <wrst> hey average_guy hope all is going well
[22:51] <average_guy> Hey wrst :)  Everything is coo here.  How r yu?
[22:57] <wrst> doing good, about to have some people over so checking email etc before I disappear for the night
[22:57] <average_guy> Have fun wit that
[23:01] <wrst> will do see you later average_guy