[05:44] <shadeslayer> bulldog98_: enabled icecc and ninja icecc hooks
[08:24] <Quintasan> Morning
[08:38] <bulldog98_> shadeslayer: I’m using them, too, but I think pbuilder has a bug. When building in i386 on amd64 the icc distribution is amd64
[08:39] <bambee> morning
[08:39] <bambee> yofel_: try to build kde-workspace 4.7.1 using debuild/dpkg-buildpackage without icecc and with multiple jobs
[08:39] <bambee> then try to build it without any devscript
[08:39] <bambee> (ie by hand :  cmake && make -j3 for example)
[08:40] <bambee> building it by hand works just fine
[08:40] <bambee> building it with devscript is borked
[08:40] <bambee> the problem comes from devscript
[08:40] <bambee> apparently
[08:47] <bulldog98_> shadeslayer: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=624530
[08:53] <Quintasan> bambee: I believe this stems somewhere from pbuilder or devscripts, could you file a bug against devscripts?
[09:01] <bulldog98_> bambee: have you tried a newer version of pbuilder?
[09:17] <bulldog98_> what’s wrong with following regular expression for sed? s/kde-sc-dev-latest (>= 4:\DIGIT\.\DIGIT.\DIGIT/kde-sc-dev-latest (>= 4:#{version.upstream_version}/ ?
[09:17] <bulldog98_> where the #{version.upstream_version} is inserted by ruby
[09:34]  * transitlogger falls over
[10:06] <bulldog98_> transitlogger: we have epoches for all our main kde packages, don’t we? Wouldn’t it be clever to don’t have to type in the epoch by hand and instead let kgetsource handle that?
[10:06] <bambee> Quintasan: I doubt
[10:06] <bambee> it's strange but.... it works like a charm with kdelibs
[10:06] <bambee> for example
[10:07] <bambee> debuild -j8 and pbuilder with multiple jobs work with kdelibs
[10:07] <bambee> we've probably something wrong in kde-workspace's rules
[10:07] <bambee> also it works with other packages...
[10:07] <bambee> so...
[10:08]  * bambee does not understand...
[10:22] <markey> aaah. Jussi == Tm_T?
[10:22] <markey> now it makes sense
[10:23] <markey> he's staying at Harald's place, I heard
[10:23] <markey> in Austria
[10:23] <markey> or was visiting him
[10:27] <Tm_T> markey: not to be confused with jussi01 (;
[10:27] <markey> got it
[10:27] <markey> vddlogger explained
[10:27] <markey> too many Jussis
[10:27] <Tm_T> markey: and I believe you just got hit with one of the flaws of G+
[10:27] <bambee> it's a problem with debian/rules :: override_dh_auto_clean
[10:27] <markey> Tm_T: I'm still very happy with it. what's the issue?
[10:28] <bambee> $(overridden_command) for this target seems borked
[10:28] <markey> I'm following Glyn Moody now, he posts interesting stuff (short news items straight from the pipeline, before he writes articles)
[10:28] <Tm_T> markey: you're not allowed to have nick as your name there, it has to be your legal name
[10:28] <markey> about technology and politics
[10:28] <markey> I don't have a nick name on G+
[10:28] <Tm_T> ....and very few knows me by my legal name
[10:28] <markey> I'm "Mark Kretschmann" there
[10:28] <Tm_T> I know
[10:28] <markey> we all use our real names, which is cool
[10:29] <markey> the nick name thing is confusing for FOSS/Company connections
[10:29] <Tm_T> ye, but many times, your nick is your real name
[10:29] <markey> noone would know who "Nys42" is, it could be Sebastian Nyström
[10:30] <markey> or Gandalf0815
[10:30] <Tm_T> markey: unless that name has solid and long reputation
[10:30] <Tm_T> everyone knows Tm_T is Tm_T
[10:30] <markey> I'm not a supporter of nick names in social networks, wrong person to talk to
[10:30] <markey> I hate that nick name crap. also using mKretschmann on our company IRC
[10:30] <Tm_T> I'm supporter of "use estamblished names" (:
[10:30] <markey> I might change it on Freenode as well
[10:31] <markey> the only nick name established as real names is Sput 
[10:31] <markey> everyone calls him Sput, noone Manuel
[10:31] <markey> I didn't even know he was called Manuel Nickschas, weird name
[10:32] <Tm_T> markey: ye, those cases are that really bothers me, and G+ is full of 'em
[10:32] <markey> but Tm_T is very weird
[10:32] <Tm_T> people who are known by other than legal names
[10:32] <markey> Jussi sounds fine to me
[10:33] <Tm_T> markey: sure, I'm ok having my legal name there, but I would rather have both legal AND "nick" name there
[10:33] <markey> muesli has the real name "Christian Muehlhaeuser", impossible to spell for Americans, there it's getting complicated
[10:33] <Tm_T> would make things less confusin
[10:33] <markey> or Christian Mühlhäuser, also impossible to type
[10:33] <Tm_T> Mühlhäuser?
[10:33] <Tm_T> meh, I was slow
[10:33] <markey> on Nokia he is Muhlhauser
[10:34] <markey> and Böttrich becomse Bottrich
[10:34] <Tm_T> ye
[10:35] <markey> "Harald Sitter" is really easy, he is lucky
[10:35] <markey> better than XYlogger
[10:35] <Tm_T> also tells what he does, sit
[10:35] <markey> yes
[10:35]  * Tm_T hides
[10:36] <markey> well he sits most of the day
[10:36] <markey> got really fat
[10:36] <markey> so that fits
[10:37] <markey> Mamarok is Myriam Schweingruber, which means "Pig Hole" in German
[10:38] <markey> really bad, she is going to be Myriam Kretschmann
[10:52] <Mamarok> which is simply not true, my acestors name was Gruber and they raised pigs
[10:54] <bambee> the guy who has changed the debian/rules to add gles support destroyed everything :)
[10:55] <bulldog98_> bambee: who was that? :)
[10:55] <bambee> Quintasan :)
[10:55] <bambee> in fact your changes look good Quintasan... but when you override these rules
[10:56] <bambee> : clean, configure and build it breaks parallel building
[10:56] <bambee> I don't understand why
[10:56] <bambee> probably something wrong in pkg-kde-tools
[10:56] <bulldog98_> bambee: have you tried to add the parallel stuff?
[10:56] <bambee> bulldog98_: yes
[10:57] <bambee> bulldog98_: try yourself, debuild -j8 with the actual kde-workspace does not work, then comment "override_auto_clean, override_auto_configure and override_auto_build"
[10:57] <bambee> it works
[10:58] <bulldog98> btw can someone merge my mergerequests?
[10:59] <bulldog98> bambee: https://code.launchpad.net/~bulldog98/ exept for kate and kde-runtime they need merge
[11:26] <bulldog98> ScottK: around, to do some merges?
[11:30] <bambee> bulldog98: already merged
[11:30] <bambee> apparently...
[11:30] <bulldog98> bambee: ok
[11:30] <bambee> "Merged into lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kate at revision 41 "
[11:30] <bulldog98> bambee: yes kate is merged
[11:31] <bambee> "Merged into lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kde-runtime at revision 226 "
[11:31] <bulldog98> bambee: but the others are not
[11:31] <bambee> oh
[11:31] <bambee> my brain is buggy
[11:31] <bambee> xD
[11:31] <bulldog98> bambee: sorry wrote it the wrong way around
[11:37] <dappermuis> can someone look at bug 749189 - i think a sync from debian will fix the FTBFS
[11:39] <bambee> ScottK: What need I to do in order to show my commits through CIA-89 ?
[11:40]  * bulldog98 wants to know that, too
[12:00] <Quintasan> bambee: Then it's not my fault but dh's
[12:00] <bambee> right
[12:01] <bambee> apparently something is wrong when pkg-kde-tool calls an overrided target :\
[12:02] <Quintasan> now, who maintains that?
[12:02] <Quintasan> MoDaX I think
[12:10] <bulldog98> bambee: apt-cache show pkg-kde-tools
[12:12] <Mamarok> vddlogger: reported the bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/840291
[12:14] <bambee> bulldog98: this is the last one, 0.14.1ubuntu1
[12:14] <bulldog98> bambee: I meant forgetting the maintainer info
[12:33] <bambee> debfx: ping
[12:35] <debfx> yes?
[12:37] <bambee> nothing :)
[12:37] <bambee> it works
[12:38] <bambee> Quintasan: your override_dh_auto_build is wrong
[12:38] <bambee> you should use $(overridden_command)
[12:38] <bambee> otherwise you break parallel building
[12:38] <bambee> with $(overridden_command) it works :)
[12:39] <bambee> well, I will fix it with 4.7.1
[12:43] <bambee> Quintasan: when you use dh_auto_build instead of $(overridden_command) , arguments are not used
[12:43] <bambee> so --parallel is not used
[12:43] <Quintasan> I see
[12:44] <ari-tczew> when --parallel is needed?
[12:44] <bambee> with parallel building
[12:50] <debfx> it's not just parallel building that breaks. the kde debhelper buildsystem isn't used at all
[12:52] <debfx> e.g. dh_auto_install instead of $(overridden_command) breaks desktop file translation stripping
[12:52] <bulldog98> nice feature :)
[12:53] <bambee> debfx: also, it breaks parallel install... right ?
[12:55] <debfx> I doubt installing is parallelised
[12:56] <debfx> usually it only affects build and test
[12:56] <bambee> ok
[12:56] <bambee> good to know
[13:00] <bulldog98> bambee: could you paste the fixed rules, so I can see what I should do?
[13:00] <bulldog98> bambee: you rock, too :)
[13:01] <bambee> bulldog98: sure
[13:01]  * bulldog98 had a problem with building kdepim (I ran out of ram)
[13:02] <bambee> bulldog98: http://paste.ubuntu.com/681174/
[13:02] <bulldog98> now that should be fixed (made my tmpfs bigger
[13:02] <bulldog98> bambee: kthx
[13:05] <bulldog98> debfx: DEB_HOST_ARCH_OS := $(shell dpkg-architecture -qDEB_HOST_ARCH_OS) if I build in an i386 chroot (pbuilder) will that set i386 or amd64?
[13:11] <debfx> bulldog98: i386 assuming you mean ARCH_CPU
[13:16] <bulldog98> debfx: my problem is that if I want to build on amd64 in an i386 pbuilder using icecc and ccache, this will result in an local build
[13:16] <bulldog98> I setup every stuff according to our hook README
[13:17] <vddlogger> ehm
[13:17] <vddlogger> that aint not making no sense
[13:18] <bulldog98> vddlogger: if that variable isn’t setup right, it could be that that is the reason for the failing icecc
[13:19] <vddlogger> what variable
[13:19] <vddlogger> what is the branch url for the hooks anyway?
[13:20] <EagleScreen> hello
[13:21] <bulldog98> vddlogger: lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-dev-tools/trunk
[13:21] <bulldog98> vddlogger: DEB_HOST_ARCH_OS
[13:22] <EagleScreen> hello JontheEchidna
[13:22] <vddlogger> bulldog98: how would that var help icecream?
[13:23] <bulldog98> vddlogger: I don’t know
[13:24] <EagleScreen> JontheEchidna: muon has many duplicated packages on its list, by the multiarch, but I dont see nothing to difference i386 pakages from amd64 ones
[13:24] <bulldog98> vddlogger: maybe that’s used for creating the gcc-distribution (and that thing is amd64, but I want icecream to distribute atleast the i386 as well)
[13:26] <vddlogger> yeah, you need to make sure that it creates an evrionment for i386
[13:26] <vddlogger> and set the apporpaite var
[13:26] <vddlogger> see icrecream wiki page
[13:27] <bulldog98> vddlogger: can’t we include that into the hooks?
[13:28] <vddlogger> if you implement it
[13:29] <bulldog98> vddlogger: that was what I was planning to do :P
[13:37] <bambee> "Your message to kubuntu-devel awaits moderator approval"  o.O
[13:37] <bambee> Message body is too big: 111610 bytes with a limit of 40 KB  ... damnit ! v_v
[13:37] <bulldog98> vddlogger: would something like that be ok? http://paste.ubuntu.com/681192/ and than copy an i386 tar out of lets say etc?
[13:47] <bulldog98> vddlogger: http://paste.ubuntu.com/681195/
[13:57] <vddlogger> bulldog98: bad code
[13:58] <vddlogger> bulldog98: also, does it work?
[13:58] <bulldog98> vddlogger: I’m trying that now
[13:58] <vddlogger>     export ICECC_VERSION="/tmp/$ICECC_BASENAME.tar.gz"
[13:58] <vddlogger>   if [[ "$ICECC_ADDITIONAL_ARCH" ]];then
[13:58] <vddlogger> export ICECC_VERSION="${ICECC_VERSION}:$ICECC_ADDITIONAL_ARCH:/var/cache/icecc/$ICECC_BASENAME-$ICECC_ADDITIONAL_ARCH.tar.gz"
[13:58] <vddlogger> fi
[13:59] <bulldog98> vddlogger: that’s better
[14:00] <bulldog98> but you forgot the mv
[14:00] <vddlogger> no I did ont
[14:00] <vddlogger> I did selective code pasting
[14:01] <bulldog98> vddlogger: yeah
[14:07] <bulldog98> vddlogger: it seems that doesn’t work (maybe ccache?)
[14:07]  * bulldog98 will disable that
[14:10] <bulldog98> vddlogger: it’s a comma seperated list
[14:27] <vddlogger> bulldog98: RTFM before doing stuff :P
[14:27] <bulldog98> vddlogger: you, too :)
[14:28] <vddlogger> I only revised your broken code to not look like crap :P
[14:32] <bulldog98> vddlogger: ok you won the flame war :)
[14:32] <vddlogger> yay
[14:50] <bambee> bulldog98: RTFM is his favorite word :D
[14:50] <bulldog98> bambee: he hasn’t said it one time at ds :P
[14:51] <shadeslayer> oh he did
[14:51] <shadeslayer> iirc he said it to me
[14:52] <bambee> :D
[14:53] <bulldog98> shadeslayer: haven’t noticed that one
[14:54] <bulldog98> but it’s the first time he says that to me so I’m honored :)
[14:54] <shadeslayer> lol
[14:55] <bambee> :p
[14:56]  * bulldog98 hates cmake atm for not using icecc if it’s in PATH
[14:56] <shadeslayer> uh
[14:56] <shadeslayer> bulldog98: use pbuilder from ninjas
[14:56] <shadeslayer> iirc thats the one that works
[14:56] <bulldog98> shadeslayer: I do
[14:56] <shadeslayer> oh
[14:57] <shadeslayer> bulldog98: i386 bug?
[14:57] <bulldog98> shadeslayer: I want to compile in an i386 builder on amd64
[14:57] <shadeslayer> right ... but why? :P
[14:58] <bulldog98> shadeslayer: cause I only owe one amd64 computer and two i386ers
[14:58] <bulldog98> shadeslayer: even the 0.202 from sid is not working?
[14:58] <shadeslayer> bulldog98: i don't think so arch really matters for our packages right now
[14:59] <bambee> kde-workspace 1 hour and 30 minutes to be built o.O
[14:59] <bulldog98> bambee: have you ever compiled kdepim it horror
[14:59] <bambee> I thought the bigger was kdelibs :P
[14:59] <bulldog98> s/it/it is/
[14:59] <kubotu> bulldog98 meant: "bambee: have you ever compiled kdepim it is horror"
[14:59] <bambee> bulldog98: no
[14:59] <bambee> I did not
[15:00] <bulldog98> bambee: you need atleast 4.5G tmpfs
[15:00]  * bulldog98 has 4G RAM
[15:01] <bambee> usually I use tmpfs for small packages
[15:01] <bambee> I use local parallel building with 9 jobs
[15:01] <bambee> so if I use tmpfs... I let you imagine...
[15:01] <bambee> (for example... try to build kdelibs with 9 jobs using a tmpfs... :D)
[15:02] <bulldog98> bambee: nice. At ds I compiled it -j35
[15:02] <bambee> I could use icecc for big packages...
[15:02] <bambee> bulldog98: 35 jobs ? with icecc, I guess...
[15:02] <bulldog98> bambee: yes
[15:05] <bambee> never tried icecc... looks nice
[15:18] <bulldog98> is it possible to make tmpfs bigger than half of the RAM?
[15:22] <bulldog98> shadeslayer: nice even the pbuilder of sid has that issue
[15:22]  * bulldog98 build a fixed version of pbuilder in sid
[15:25] <ScottK> bambee: I don't know about the CIA thing.  Ask someone like JontheEchidna who's got it working.
[15:25] <bambee> ok
[15:26] <bambee> JontheEchidna: ping
[15:27] <shadeslayer> heh
[15:39]  * bulldog98 ordered another 4G of RAM
[15:53] <bambee> bulldog98: how much machines do you use with icecc ?
[15:53] <bulldog98> bambee: 3
[15:53] <bulldog98> that’s all I have atm
[15:54] <bulldog98> maybe I should use my fathers computer with an live usb stick, too
[15:54] <afiestas> I was just thinking that after releasing the 1.2 final we will be maintaining 3 versions
[15:54] <afiestas> 1.0.X, 1.1.X and 1.2.X, so thinking further I got this question for you:
[15:55] <afiestas> are you guys updating to the minors verions?
[15:55] <bulldog98> afiestas: icecc?
[15:55] <afiestas> because I keep them so distributions can fix their versions (all that goes to minor versions are fixes)
[15:55] <afiestas> icecc?
[15:56] <bulldog98> afiestas: about what program are you talking? icecream?
[15:56] <afiestas> ups sorry
[15:56] <afiestas> about BlueDevil
[15:56] <bulldog98> ah ok
[15:59] <ScottK> debfx: The new pyudev looks like it might be something we want.
[16:07] <debfx> ScottK: doesn't the PTS send emails about new upstream versions anymore?
[16:07] <ScottK> Dunno.  I don't recall having gotten one.
[16:10] <debfx> aha, the mails came from DEHS which is dead
[16:11] <debfx> too bad, that was a useful feature
[16:11] <EagleScreen_> Kubuntu oneiric never resumes from hibernate, it does a clean boot-up instead
[16:12] <EagleScreen_> linux issue?
[16:18] <vddlogger> or graphics driver
[16:18] <vddlogger> or X11
[16:18] <vddlogger> or kwin
[16:18] <vddlogger> or all of them
[16:22] <ScottK> Not kwin.
[16:23] <ScottK> Might be powerdevil/solid.
[16:23] <vddlogger> well, kwin by means of the former two
[16:29] <ScottK> EagleScreen_: What happens if you try it with pm-hibernate?
[16:29] <ScottK> If it works there, it's probably KDE's fault.  If it doesn't, then it's probably kernel related.
[16:32] <bulldog98> why is the kdegames tarball 60 MiBi tall?
[16:33] <bulldog98> is that normal?
[16:37] <vddlogger> bulldog98: graphics
[16:37] <vddlogger> and sounds
[16:37] <bambee> kdeutils is around 8KB :D
[16:38] <bambee> (also it's borked)
[16:38] <bulldog98> bambee: that was on kde-packagers
[16:38] <bambee> bulldog98: I know
[16:39] <EagleScreen> ScottK: Kubuntu doesn't resume neither with pm-hibernate
[16:39] <ScottK> EagleScreen: Then it's probably a kernel issue.
[16:43] <EagleScreen> reporting bug agains linux then
[16:45] <vddlogger> Exception OSError: (2, 'No such file or directory', '/var/lib/apt-xapian-index/update-socket') in <bound method ServerProgress.__del__ of <axi.indexer.ServerProgress instance at 0xb7382cac>> ignored
[16:45] <vddlogger> cool
[16:45] <bulldog98> vddlogger: size of packages: oxygen-icons > kdegames > … ?
[16:45] <vddlogger> wha?
[16:45] <bulldog98> tars
[16:46] <bulldog98> vddlogger: what are the biggest tars oxygen-icons, kdegames and ?
[16:46] <vddlogger> *shrug*
[16:46] <vddlogger> who cares :P
[16:46] <vddlogger> kdeartwork proably is biggest
[16:46] <vddlogger> then kde-wallpapers
[16:46] <vddlogger> then oxygen
[16:46] <vddlogger> then games
[16:46] <vddlogger> then edu
[16:46] <vddlogger> soemthing like that I guess
[16:49] <bulldog98> vddlogger: I care because I have around 6kbit/s upload
[16:50] <bulldog98> that means I need 2h 46m 66s for uploading that, which I’m doing atm
[16:52] <vddlogger> well, 3h aint that bad
[16:52] <vddlogger> someone needs to upload them anyway
[17:00]  * rbelem pokes ScottK 
[17:12]  * Quintasan pokes rbelem
[17:32] <JontheEchidna> bambee: install cia-clients, and then in any bzr branch run "bzr cia-project kubuntu"
[17:32] <JontheEchidna> then any commit pushes should be announced to CIA
[17:33] <bambee> nice feature
[17:33] <bambee> ok thanks
[17:44] <shadeslayer> bambee: or you can edit your ~/.bazaar/locations.conf
[17:44] <bambee> woo! even better!
[17:44] <shadeslayer> and add the folder you're working in to send commits to cia
[17:45] <shadeslayer> there are instructions in the neon branch iirc
[17:45] <shadeslayer> and a plugin as well
[17:53]  * rbelem pokes Quintasan 
[17:53] <rbelem> back
[17:53] <Quintasan> rbelem: Did you test build it?
[17:54] <rbelem> yup
[17:54] <rbelem> both
[17:55] <Quintasan> rbelem: I have to go soon so I can't merge it now but I'd also like to have ScottK's approval
[17:56] <rbelem> Quintasan, oki :)
[17:56] <rbelem> Quintasan, we are closer to get kubuntu-mobile ready
[17:57] <ScottK> If the new changes as just bugfix/improvement to what we already patched and don't affect normal functinality, go for it.
[18:00] <rbelem> ScottK, the new changes are related to bugfix and missing patches
[18:00] <rbelem> that were added this week
[18:00] <ScottK> OK.
[18:01] <ScottK> As long as they won't affect non-mobile/active users they should be fine.
[18:01] <rbelem> and the changes are related only to active stuff
[18:01] <ScottK> OK.
[18:01] <ScottK> Quintasan: Go for it.
[18:01] <rbelem> thx ScottK 
[18:01] <rbelem> :)
[18:05] <Quintasan> rbelem: I still see wrong merge diff on libs :/
[18:06] <Quintasan> runtime merged
[18:07] <rbelem> Quintasan, in which part?
[18:07] <Quintasan> rbelem: everything, it seems something is wrong with the commit
[18:08] <rbelem> Quintasan, i refreshed the patches
[18:08] <rbelem> and renamed them
[18:08] <Quintasan> That doesnt explain whole changelog in diff
[18:08] <Quintasan> rbelem: https://code.launchpad.net/~rbelem/kubuntu-packaging/kde4libs-active-4.7/+merge/73739
[18:08] <Quintasan> look
[18:08] <Quintasan> Only changelog makes it 5k lines of diff
[18:08] <rbelem> wow
[18:09] <Quintasan> rbelem: I suggest you delete that request, branch and start from fresh copy of kdelibs
[18:09]  * Quintasan is going out
[18:09] <Quintasan> bbl
[18:09] <Quintasan> I'll merge it then if it's good
[18:09] <rbelem> Quintasan, oki
[18:09] <rbelem> thx Quintasan 
[18:12] <bambee> bulldog98: you can remove kdelibs5-dev from ktouch's dependencies, it already depends on kde-sc-dev-latest >= 4.7.1 (so implicitly on kdelibs5-dev >= 4.7.1)
[18:13] <bambee> oh wait
[18:13] <bambee> let me check something
[18:14] <bambee> I doubt :\
[18:14] <shadeslayer> uh i don't think so
[18:14] <shadeslayer> i'll have to check myself, but kde-sc-dev-latest it to break dep circles 
[18:14] <shadeslayer> and pull in cmake and some essential build foo
[18:15] <bambee> why the hell do I see "Dependencies: 
[18:15] <bambee> 4:4.7.1+5.68ubuntu8 - debhelper (2 7.2.3~) cmake (2 2.6.4) automoc (2 1.0~version-0.9.88) pkg-kde-tools (2 0.12) kate-dev (3 4:4.7.1) kde-workspace-dev (3 4:4.7.1) kdelibs5-dev (3 4:4.7.1)"
[18:15] <bambee> ?
[18:16] <bambee> bulldog98: forget what I said
[18:18]  * bulldog98 hates building kdepim
[18:37] <jjesse> quick question here on my netbook trying to install the oneric beta on 3 of 4 boots the mouse doesn't respond ideas?
[18:53] <jjesse> another question:  running the beta on my netbook shouldn't i get the "netbook" interface (i think its called search and locatte)
[18:55] <bulldog98> jjesse: depends on the screen resolution
[18:55] <jjesse> its the min9 and in natty it did
[18:56] <bulldog98> jjesse: than it should
[18:56] <ScottK> jjesse: It should.  It does on my mini 10v.
[18:56] <jjesse> hrmm ok
[18:56] <jjesse> maybe i got something screwy
[18:57] <jjesse> the mouse didn't seem to respond in the live cd version either
[18:57] <bulldog98> jjesse: was it a fresh install?
[18:57] <jjesse> yup
[18:57] <bulldog98> hm
[19:06] <bulldog98> vddlogger: would it make sense to bump kde-sc-dev-latest with kgetsource?
[19:07] <bulldog98> s/with/within/
[19:07] <kubotu> bulldog98 meant: "vddlogger: would it make sense to bump kde-sc-dev-latest within kgetsource?"
[19:47]  * bulldog98 is compiling kdepim on the tablet, without icecc because the install of all deps is that fast, it is faster to build on the tablet with an atom instead of my athlon x2
[19:58] <bulldog98> can someone with commit rights look over my merge requests? they are maily only bumps, cause everything I touched so far build fine
[20:01] <bulldog98> Quintasan, ScottK: ? https://code.launchpad.net/~bulldog98/ https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/Packaging
[20:01] <bulldog98> only kdegames I’m still pushing
[20:11] <jjesse> ok just finished a fresh install of oneric beta again and still have the default for normal kde not the search and locate of the netbook
[20:12] <jjesse> on my mini9
[20:35] <jjesse> ok this is interesting, no wireless connection, but when i go wired i get a message that says "we need networkmanager version >= .8.977 and we found .9.XXXX
[20:44] <bulldog98> jjesse: that’s a knowen bug
[20:45] <jjesse> ok so what do i do to get online?
[20:46] <jjesse> seems like a pretty big bug for a beta if it prevents people from getting online
[20:51] <jjesse> also after 3rd reboot it seems like it has shifted to search and laucnh as startup some how
[20:51] <bulldog98> jjesse: I mean the stuff with wired
[20:51] <bulldog98> my wifi works
[20:51] <bulldog98> jjesse: setup a systemconnection they work
[20:51] <bambee> it has been fixed in 0.9~svngit.nm09.20110610.0c83d8-0ubuntu3
[20:51] <jjesse> but i need to install restricted drivers to get wireless to work
[20:51] <bambee> bug 838099
[20:52] <bulldog98> bambee: that’s a nice version name
[20:52] <jjesse> and since i can't get online w/ wired i can't get online w/ wireless
[20:53] <jjesse> whats a system connection?
[20:53] <bulldog98> jjesse: that works even, if you are in tty and kdm is not running
[20:53] <jjesse> also seems to be resolution detection is not always working correctly as i keep being presented w/ a different default activity
[20:54] <bulldog98> jjesse: vddlogger wrote that afaik
[20:54] <Quintasan> Can anyone look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/k9copy/+bug/749189 ? I can't solve it :/
[20:55] <bulldog98> Quintasan: could you do the kdeartwork stuff, since I don’t have enought down-/upload speed
[20:55] <bambee> jjesse: try with http://people.ubuntu.com/~bambi/plasma-widget-networkmanagement_0.9~svngit.nm09.20110610.0c83d8-0ubuntu3_amd64.deb
[20:55] <Quintasan> bulldog98: Nor do I. My upload is the second crappiest here
[20:55] <bambee> (put it on a usbkey...)
[20:56] <bulldog98> bambee: then could you do that?
[20:56] <jjesse> bambee how do i setup a system connection so i can get online?
[21:01] <yofel> bulldog98: if you didn't find it yet: tmpfs has a size= option
[21:01] <bambee> jjesse: a wired connection is easier to install by hand compared to a wireless connection 
[21:02] <jjesse> bambee ok i am plugged into wired right now on my netbook and can't get online due to network manager problem
[21:02] <yofel> bulldog98: and package sizes are oxygen > artwork > games > wallpers > ... I think
[21:02] <yofel> *wallpapers
[21:02] <bambee> jjesse: ifconfig
[21:02] <bambee> what is the interface name ?
[21:02] <bulldog98> yofel: but I think that, doesn’t work, if you go greater than 1G less your RAM size
[21:02] <bulldog98> yofel: I uploaded games :)
[21:03] <yofel> bulldog98: hm, not sure, I'm in that range (tmpfs 7G, RAM 8G)
[21:03] <jjesse> eth0 for wired
[21:03] <bambee> so exec: dhclient eth0
[21:03] <yofel> bulldog98: lemme try to create a 9G one
[21:03] <bulldog98> yofel: you have to test with df -h if it worked
[21:04] <yofel> worked:
[21:04] <yofel> tmpfs                 9.0G     0  9.0G   0% /var/cache/pbuilder/build
[21:04] <bambee> jjesse: then have a look at ifconfig
[21:04] <bambee> you should see a valid IP address
[21:04] <jjesse> thanks
[21:04] <bambee> (something like 192.168.1.i or equivalent)
[21:05] <yofel> bulldog98: it even works here if the size is larger than RAM+SWAP
[21:05] <bambee> then ping google
[21:05] <bulldog98> yofel: nice
[21:05] <bambee> download http://people.ubuntu.com/~bambi/plasma-widget-networkmanagement_0.9~svngit.nm09.20110610.0c83d8-0ubuntu3_amd64.deb
[21:05] <bambee> with wget for example
[21:05] <bulldog98> yofel: but it won’t work with size=9000M
[21:05] <bulldog98> I think
[21:05] <jjesse> has alt-f2 to run something stopped working by default?  or am i missing something?
[21:05] <jjesse> bambee thanks for help
[21:06] <yofel> bulldog98: worked in fstab:
[21:06] <yofel> tmpfs /var/cache/pbuilder/build tmpfs rw,size=9000M 0 0
[21:06] <yofel> although I usually use size=7G
[21:06] <bambee> jjesse: don't compute
[21:08] <jjesse> krunner was launched by alt+f2 correct?  alt+f2 doesn't launch on netbook
[21:08] <jjesse> i have to load krunner before it works
[21:09] <bambee> don't know :\
[21:09] <bambee> just use konsole
[21:10] <bulldog98> yofel: what meens if I get -./… form list-missing hook?
[21:10] <jjesse> yes but 1st have to naviage back to search & launch, then type konsole in the search window and open it up, instead of just hitting alt+f2 and what i need
[21:11] <yofel> bulldog98: the the files aren't installed anywhere and aren't in not-installed either
[21:11] <yofel> bulldog98: *installed in any package
[21:11] <bulldog98> yofel: but they are
[21:12] <yofel> bulldog98: then it's a bug in the hook, IIRC it's broken with kppp at least
[21:13] <yofel> bulldog98: although manpages and kdeinit stuff will show up too even though they're installed. (Since they're modified/moved)
[21:13] <bambee> yofel: btw, I found what was wrong in kde-workspace , you can prepare cookies :P
[21:13]  * yofel hugs bambee
[21:13] <bambee> you can also hug debfx
[21:14] <bulldog98> yofel: it’s a pic and a knsrc that are listed, but they are installed
[21:14] <yofel> bulldog98: hm, are you like totally sure? If yes, then simply ignore it
[21:15] <bulldog98> yofel: yeah I greped over the install files and they contained them
[21:15] <yofel> ignoreit
[21:22] <bambee> Quintasan: don't compute , bug 749189 is fixed
[21:52]  * bulldog98 nearly finished kdepim
[22:02] <bulldog98> JontheEchidna: do you know who wrote kubotu?
[22:03] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger maintains it, iirc
[22:04] <bulldog98> so I need to ask him, if I want !missing to show all missing packages in https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/Packaging
[22:04] <bulldog98> vddlogger: ^
[22:28]  * bulldog98 has kdepim finished
[22:39] <rbelem> ScottK, Quintasan, i requested merge targetting the wrong branch
[22:44] <rbelem> ScottK, Quintasan, now it is ok :)
[23:16] <bulldog98> good night