[01:38] <rww> tiox: hello, how can we help you?
[01:38] <tiox> I came to have my ban from #ubuntu-offtopic lifted.
[01:39] <tiox> I think after being in #ubuntu+1 for so long, someone would have noticed I stopped being a dick.
[01:39] <rww> elky, Flannel: one of you around? I don't have WWW access right now.
[01:39] <elky> i'll see if it'll load
[01:39]  * tiox pokes topyli
[01:40] <Fenixdeux> hi. I make a joke about Anonymous cutting Natalie Portman's hairdo for no apparent expressed reason and I get banhammered in #ubuntu-offtopic .. what kind of offtopic channel this is ?!??!?!
[01:40] <elky> you got removed and quieted, not banned
[01:40] <rww> tiox: topyli's likely asleep :)
[01:40] <elky> besides, it wasn't anythign to do with the hair, Fenixdeux.
[01:40] <tiox> Yeah, thanks for telling me.
[01:40] <elky> Fenixdeux, it was about the thing rww asked you to stop talking about.
[01:41] <tiox> So how much longer am I to sit in the corner?
[01:41] <Fenixdeux> elky: which was what ?
[01:41] <rww> tiox: until elky gets the Bantracker to cooperate, might be a few minutes
[01:41] <rww> tiox: (it's a rather slow website, unfortunately)
[01:41] <Fenixdeux> Anonymous is not your personal tool for vendetta
[01:41] <tiox> May I has dunce cap?
[01:41] <tiox> :P
[01:41] <Fenixdeux> he's just anonymous ..
[01:42] <rww> tiox: (and then we see what happened and whether there are any comments from the time the ban was set, and decide where to go from there)
[01:42] <elky> rww, want to have a word to Fenixdeux plz?
[01:42] <rww> elky: sure
[01:42] <Fenixdeux> rww: yeah.. I didn't notice what was offa offtopic this tiem 'k ..?
[01:42] <rww> Fenixdeux: inflammatory comments about "blowing up shit" are not acceptable in #ubuntu-offtopic. Come back in a day or two.
[01:42] <tiox> Meh, too long to wait. For some reason I laughed my ass off reading this: http://xkcd.com/686/
[01:43] <rww> elky: can you check whether penos is banned in #ubuntu while you're there, please? they change hostmasks and I'm pretty sure they're banned from somewhere.
[01:43] <Fenixdeux> I was only making reference to the movie "V for Vendetta" ( the thing those sucky Wachowsky brothers decided to direct after the eternally sucky Matrix trilogy )
[01:44] <tiox> You do not say the Wachowsky Brothers suck.
[01:44] <rww> Fenixdeux: V for Vendetta does not mention races or religions. Your problematic interpretation of it is your own.
[01:44] <elky> tiox, the -ot ban has only been in place for 5 days. I'm going to leave it for topyli to decide if you've changed for his liking.
[01:44] <tiox> I assume no lurking allowed?
[01:45] <rww> tiox: indeed, I'll poke him to PM you if I see him around
[01:45] <elky> also, it's 'the wachowskis', not brothers. One of them transitioned.
[01:45] <rww> tiox: he's in Europe, so you might come back during the appropriate times for that timezone
[01:45] <Fenixdeux> they got scared of their own creation and therefore made the Matrix III all rubbish and shit..
[01:45] <Fenixdeux> I and II were epic and III was epically bad
[01:46] <Fenixdeux> *epicly
[01:46] <rww> Is there some part of this that's relevant to anything?
[01:46] <elky> rww, i don't think so, no.
[01:46] <Fenixdeux> rejoice !!!
[01:47] <Fenixdeux> it has no relevance at all !!!
 'k I'll be back in a few days..
[01:48] <elky> if he shows up before then, point him to that.
 whoa.. I've been quited in #ubuntu-offtopic and then after complaining I gots it on #ubuntu-ops
[01:49] <Pici> where was that?
[01:49] <bazhang> #u
[01:49] <Pici> oh
[01:50] <bazhang> fr0sted, hi
[01:52] <Myrtti> fr0sted: hello?
[01:52] <fr0sted> hi?
[02:05] <jubo_> re
[02:06] <bazhang> jubo_, hi fenixdeux
[02:06] <jubo_> foo.. bar..
[02:06] <jubo_> I really like this Xubuntu.. big thanks to all who contributed
[02:08] <bazhang> jubo_, you were instructed to come back in 48 hrs
[02:08] <elky> ok, thanks. your wait before we consider removing your quiet and ban is now a full week.
[02:09] <jubo_> yes. I just read that on other channels.. I was just so excited I found my Xubuntu-machines charger and was able to come back
[02:09] <jubo_> I had completely lost the power charger and I'm so happy that no further bannage has been excerted in my direction XD XD
[02:10] <elky> except it has.
[02:10] <rww> specifically, you just got banned from #ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic for violating network policy by evading the quiet set on you
[02:10] <jubo_> I'll check back in two days time ( but let me mention you will not be able to bannage me after I get my psyBNC accounts ) ( yes I know this is in violation of freenode policy, yes )
[02:11] <rww> no, you'll check back in a week.
[02:11] <rww> and if you join with a BNC and I find it, you'll check back in two weeks
[02:11] <rww> this is not a battle I recommend.
[02:11] <jubo_> but great work on Ubuntu, I love it
[02:12] <elky> jubo_, you're going to leave now, and you're going to return when?
[02:18] <Fenix2> You win. I return in no less then one week
 something wrong with ubuntu?
[03:34] <bazhang> this guy has been hitting several channels with nonsense.
[03:43] <bazhang> got usr13 in PM to clarify the sudo vs. sudo su issue
 It is a baseless philosophical argument.
[03:45] <bazhang> getting mixed messages there..
[04:38] <bazhang> well that turned out nicely at the last
[04:39] <bazhang> ie why we recommend leaving root account disabled etc
[04:41] <bazhang> * FloodBot4 (~d_atharva@121.245.131.137) has joined #ubuntu
[04:44] <bazhang> tried to PM, no response
[04:44] <rww> nick changed
[07:28]  * rww munches popcorn, watches martin_ go in #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:34] <bazhang> :Lint?
[07:41] <rww> yup, they're still a problem >.>
 you should always have windows boot floppy at hand   <--- wat
[07:46] <rww> has BookFace been in here at all over the last few days?
[07:46] <bazhang> not that I recollect
[07:48] <bazhang> troll detected
[07:49] <rww> known issue, gone.
[07:49] <bazhang> that was the MARINES guy from before, right?
[07:50] <rww> 07:49 -!- Irssi: stalker Verbose: Got nicks: GloodbayJarfiner, lvkjej, bienbienbienbien, NGAZGAPBR, wnobowbnwobnwobn, ItsAName, oqewru, oweibnweionbiwoe, EyeballZoomout, TROHL, shudderer, feiowwo, A1BTD, oibnweoingf from host gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.179.163.168
[07:50] <bazhang> yikes
[07:51] <rww> I'm probably missing some, but yeah.
[07:51] <rww> they're now asking in #defocus instead :|
 can I get somwe explanation why ubuntu mirror srever tried to hack my machine?
[08:10] <rww> The bell tolls for Lint.
[08:13] <rww> you know what. no. I can't be bothered. someone else deal with the stupid if you want :|
[10:23]  * jrib crosses fingers that these 22 updates will include fix for boot issues
[11:56] <oCean> oh, had not seen viking's earlier post..
[11:56] <oCean> *posts rather
[11:57] <Myrtti> he is going to get kicked so hard that he can't locate his bum because it's in the orbit, if he continues
[12:16] <oCean> un88 = viking
[12:23]  * Myrtti dusts off her hands
[13:05] <IdleOne> !guidelines > jaber
[13:25] <bazhang> he was talking about 11.04 not 11.10
[13:26] <IdleOne> was he?
[13:26] <IdleOne> I understood it as 11.10
[13:26] <bazhang> yes. feel free to field questions in +1
[13:27] <IdleOne> didn't the Unity devs just do a Q&A on reddit?
[13:35] <bazhang> he doesn't want support, just to rant
[13:36] <IdleOne> rather have him rant in +1 even if that isn't the proper channel to rant in...do we have a "rant here" channel?
[13:36] <bazhang> -ot
[13:39] <IdleOne> I suppose but I'm sure he would get blasted in there also for ranting
[13:42] <bazhang> at a certain point it just becomes like smallfoot-
[13:53] <Tm_T> IdleOne: we have, his personal blog
[13:54] <Tm_T> he can rant there all he wants
[14:12] <oCean> bazhang: ubottu was napping I guess
[14:12] <bazhang> oCean, heh yeah
 where can i wget perl script?
[14:28] <bazhang> huh?
[14:39] <jussi> !no, cloak is <reply> To get any kind of cloak (ubuntu member or any other kind) you first need to set up your nick as detailed in this FAQ: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup - you MUST set an email address, AND group an alternate nick. For Ubuntu member cloaks, ask in #ubuntu-irc and provide your launchpad page, for unaffiliated ones, ask in #freenode.
[14:39] <IdleOne> that is a good reply Myrtti has aliased :)
[14:40] <jussi> hrm, thats not quiye right...
[14:40] <jussi> the alt nick is no longer needed
[14:40] <jussi> !no, cloak is <reply> To get any kind of cloak (ubuntu member or any other kind) you first need to set up your nick as detailed in this FAQ: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup - you MUST set an email address. For Ubuntu member cloaks, ask in #ubuntu-irc and provide your launchpad page, for unaffiliated ones, ask in #freenode.
[14:41] <jussi> It's useful, but not required, to have an alternate nick grouped to your account. For example, if your primary nick is foo:
[14:42] <tsimpson> jussi: the part about "you MUST set an email address" isn't needed, you can't register without an email
[14:43] <jussi> tsimpson:  aiui you cannot register without email anymore
[14:44] <jussi> The email address that you select will not be given out by staff, and is mainly used to allow us to help you recover the account in the event that you forget your password. For this reason, you are required to use a real, non-disposable, email address. Upon registering, you will receive an email with a verification command that you will need to run to complete the registration process. Failure to verify the account will cause it to be automatically
[14:44] <jussi> dropped after about 24 hours.
[14:44] <tsimpson> jussi: read the last 6 words of my message
[14:44] <jussi> oh bah. :/
[14:44] <IdleOne> maybe change you MUST set an email address to an email address is required for registering?
[14:44] <jussi> IdleOne: go for it. :)
[14:44] <tsimpson> it's already stated on the link
[14:45] <jussi> I blame the heat...
[14:45] <IdleOne> !no, cloak is <reply> To get any kind of cloak (ubuntu member or any other kind) you first need to set up your nick as detailed in this FAQ: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup -  For Ubuntu member cloaks, ask in #ubuntu-irc and provide your launchpad page, for unaffiliated ones, ask in #freenode.
[14:45] <jussi> its way too hot here.
[14:45] <IdleOne> tsimpson: is right no need to duplicate info given in the link
[14:46] <IdleOne> what about using https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration instead of the freenode link?
[14:47] <jussi> IdleOne: too long imho
[14:47] <tsimpson> wow that page is ugly
[14:48] <jussi> and the freenode link is much better
[14:48] <IdleOne> lol I'm sure ljl will appreciate that
[14:48] <IdleOne> okie dokie
[14:51] <tsimpson> looks better in the kubuntu theme, but all the *bold* is a little annoying
[15:24] <Myrtti> !guidelines > Iamred
[16:16] <h00k> hi friends
[16:16] <tiox> Okay topyli, crawled my arse out of bed and waiting. :)
[16:26] <tiox> Just so other people of power are clear: (06:47:40 AM) topyli: if you can join ops, we'll get your ban removed
[16:31] <BarkingFish> Good afternoon ops.  I just want to enquire with you about edits to ubottu - I just sent one through, for a language we don't have a message for at this time.  Could someone tell me how long the requests normally take to enter ubottu's database please?
[16:32] <BarkingFish> I was told it'd been forwarded here.
[16:52] <tsimpson> ^ that's Malay/Malaysian fyi
[17:05] <topyli> tiox: you have been a slow learner. can you follow our guidelines in the future and keep ubuntu channels ubuntu?
[17:05] <topyli> tiox: i am willing to remove your ban, but be sure to do this
[17:10] <tiox> I will.
[17:10] <tiox> Sorry for the delayed response, I was getting food. Not even going to come in now anyway since I'll be leaving soon.
[17:11] <topyli> tiox: no worries, irc is like that :)
[17:12] <topyli> tiox: please try to join -offtopic so we can see if i did this right
[17:14] <tiox> Nope, still B&
[17:15] <tiox> Guess you did it really really good. :P
[17:22] <topyli> you can't join?
[17:22] <topyli> i fail. let me see what the ban is really on
[17:25] <topyli> thanks tsimpson. tiox, try again
[17:27] <topyli> tiox: you should probably leave this channel at this point. business only, no idling :)
[17:28] <tiox> Uhm, oops.
[17:28] <tiox> Parted the wrong channel.
[17:58] <Myrtti> mneptok: thank you ♥
[18:32] <jforjackjohnson> i doubt that any sanity exists in your team.
[18:32] <Myrtti> well what is your issue then
[18:32] <Myrtti> you clearly have some kind of an agenda
[18:32] <Myrtti> do tell us
[18:32] <jforjackjohnson> eMail me the TOS, my ISP won't let me access https://wiki.*.*/IRC/*.
[18:33] <jforjackjohnson> Well if you want my agenda, expects many \n's.
[18:33] <Myrtti> no, not really
[18:33] <Myrtti> Cliff notes version would do
[18:34] <jforjackjohnson> What are you playing at? Try IRCing from a typewriter.
[18:34] <Myrtti> look, we don't have time for playing games with you
[18:35] <jforjackjohnson> I don't have time for non-portable typewriters. How does that make any difference? Your agenda is to kill off opposition to Ubuntu and theirb restrictive TOSes.
[18:35] <jforjackjohnson> s/theirb/their/, sorry
[18:36] <jforjackjohnson> here i am, waiting
[18:36]  * jforjackjohnson waits for answer
[18:37] <Myrtti> our IRC channels aren't for testing your typewriter, your software, or playing some social experiment on
[18:37] <Myrtti> if you can't behave without cursing, flooding, or idiocy, then we kindly ask you to live your artistic or scientific or software development dreams somewhere else
[18:38] <jforjackjohnson> Let me quote self: You get more done on a typewriter.
[18:38] <Myrtti> let me quote the rules: no cursing, even obfuscated
[18:38] <Myrtti> let me quote some more: no flooding
[18:38] <Myrtti> more?
[18:39] <jforjackjohnson> Myrtti, Just quote the entire TOS.
[18:39] <Myrtti> how about you get your head around using your browser and reading the guidelines yourself
[18:39] <Myrtti> I'm not in a humourous mood
[18:40] <jforjackjohnson> As someone said in -offtopic (where I am now unable to stay sane and therefore banned), all browsers are essentially equal and therefore suck.
[18:40] <jforjackjohnson> Whatever...
[18:42] <Myrtti> whatever?
[18:42] <jforjackjohnson> All that means to me is "just use your typewriter, you darnface"
[18:44] <jforjackjohnson> please press the keys corresponding to the ban and kick typebars.
[18:45] <jforjackjohnson> or i will leave w/o warning.
[18:45] <Myrtti> welcome back to discuss your ban after you've read the guidelines.
[18:45] <jforjackjohnson> If I was in #xubuntu-offtopic I would say: (Xubuntu > Ubuntu ) < Debian.
[18:45] <Pici> good for you
[18:46] <jforjackjohnson> let me say: I am never sane I am not a steampunker, but I use typewriters.
[18:46] <jforjackjohnson> let me say: I am never sane - I am not a steampunker, but I use typewriters.
[18:47] <topyli> jforjackjohnson: i don't think this is progressing today. please join this channel later in the future when you have some interest in the ubuntu channels and behaving on them
[18:47] <jforjackjohnson> Bof.
[18:47] <jforjackjohnson> I am not an idiot.
[18:47] <topyli> right now, as there is no business, you should leave the channel because it's for work and not for fun
[18:48] <jforjackjohnson> I could not remain calm. I will try, once I have written out my thoughts on my typewriter. Just wait one moment.
[18:50] <jforjackjohnson> I will PM you when I have become calm. I am clammy and insane at now.#
[18:50] <jforjackjohnson> I will PM you when I have become calm. I am clammy and insane at now.
[18:50] <jforjackjohnson> At least topyli will be notified when I have wriiten my thoughts down.
[18:51] <jforjackjohnson> At least topyli will be notified when I have written* my thoughts down.
[18:51] <topyli> jforjackjohnson: free tip: it's a very bad idea to get banned from this channel
[18:51] <jforjackjohnson> let me open my window, then I will leave.
[18:51] <topyli> that is, if you want to use the ubuntu channels
[18:52] <jforjackjohnson> gbye
[19:03] <topyli> for the record, jack is trolling me in pm
[19:05] <jforjackjohnson> Hello.
[19:05] <topyli> jforjackjohnson: no
[19:06] <jforjackjohnson> quote you: I don't think this is progressing today. [sic]
[19:07] <topyli> jforjackjohnson: please don't join this channel before you're ready to improve your behavior
[19:07] <jforjackjohnson> D oyu know why I have a TV dinner table shoved up my back? It's to improve my calmness my making my back sit straight.
[19:09] <topyli> i told him in pm that it's a bad idea to get banned from this channel
[19:21] <jforjackjohnson> You can advise me on how to regain my sanity enough to meet your rules.
[19:22] <rww> oh gods, you again
[19:22] <jforjackjohnson> because you were not being constructive.
[19:29]  * doubtsSanity needs to idle for private reasons - once he's back, tell him what your reasons are.
[19:32] <topyli> !appeals | doubtsSanity
[19:52] <Unit193> Hey,  do you have a ban on ~jack@188-220-172-173.zone11.bethere.co.uk in this channel?
[19:55] <rww> Unit193: yes
[19:57] <Unit193> rww: Thanks. "do you not get my point? I kind-of hate the things the admins have unnecessarily done to me." Logged into #lubuntu-offtopic and started spamming a little, should be over now
[19:58] <Unit193> (There is an op online now if he isn't) I just wanted to make sure he was actually banned from here though
[20:01] <oCean> Unit193: thanks for the heads up
[20:01] <Unit193> oCean: I wasn't sure if it warrented a visit to this channel, but I wanted to make sure. Your welcome if it helps!
[20:04] <oCean> Unit193: if in doubt, visit us.
[20:04] <Unit193> oCean: Mind telling what's up with him?
[20:07] <oCean> Unit193: I'm still wondering that myself. And we don't normally discuss bans/removals with other users.
[20:07] <rww> Unit193: the channel logs (linked in /topic) may be informative. but yeah, we don't provide commentary ourselves.
[20:07] <Unit193> oCean: Also, check the access lists if you wish, jmarsden and I are both there. I understand fully, no problem
[20:08] <rww> oh, *l*ubuntu-offtopic. I was wondering why I couldn't see what you were on about :|
[20:09] <Unit193> Alright, unless you want more I'll obey the topic and /part
[20:10] <oCean> Thanks, in that case I'll have to complete another supertuxkart challange :)
[20:10] <oCean> *challenge even
[20:16] <rww> and now they're in #freenode.
[20:17] <oCean> claiming being banned "From every ubuntu* and debian* channel in existence"
[20:17] <charlie-tca> Claim or wish?
[20:18] <oCean> wait, I forgot to quote the "unreasonably" part
[21:20] <BarkingFish> Hi. I asked a few hours ago about an edit I made to ubottu's database, by adding a factoid. It was sent to here to be dealt with, but it doesn't look like it's been approved or accepted.   I just tested it in PM and it's not working.
[21:21] <BarkingFish> How long does it take to process additions to ubottu please?
[21:22] <IdleOne> give me a moment please
[21:22] <BarkingFish> ok
[21:23] <IdleOne> Dalam kebanyakan saluran Ubuntu, kita hanya bercakap dalam Bahasa Inggeris.Malangnya pada masa ini, kita tidak mempunyai saluran bahasa Melayu. Kami minta maaf atas ketidaknyamanannya.Jika anda boleh bercakap bahasa Inggeris, sila berbuat demikian, atau menggunakan penterjemah internet.
[21:23] <IdleOne> that is what you are talking about correct?
[21:23] <BarkingFish> Yes
[21:24] <BarkingFish> It's ubottu's language message, slightly reworded into Malay
[21:24] <IdleOne> for what channel?
[21:24] <Myrtti> surely in Malay full stops are followed by spaces
[21:24] <BarkingFish> Since we don't have a malay channel for people needing help, the message explains we mostly use english, but we don't have a channel for them.
[21:25] <BarkingFish> IdleOne, it's for #ubuntu
[21:25] <BarkingFish> Myrtti, yes they are, it's a typo
[21:25] <BarkingFish> *pair of typos
[21:25] <BarkingFish> it advises the users to speak english if they're able to, or to use an online translator if they need help
[21:27] <BarkingFish> should I resubmit it with the typing corrections?
[21:27] <IdleOne> !ms is <reply> Dalam kebanyakan saluran Ubuntu, kita hanya bercakap dalam Bahasa Inggeris. Malangnya pada masa ini, kita tidak mempunyai saluran bahasa Melayu. Kami minta maaf atas ketidaknyamanannya. Jika anda boleh bercakap bahasa Inggeris, sila berbuat demikian, atau menggunakan penterjemah internet.
[21:28] <IdleOne> look good?
[21:28] <BarkingFish> yep
[21:28] <Myrtti> lets see
[21:28] <BarkingFish> I'll supply the english for it as well
[21:28] <Myrtti> !ms | BarkingFish
[21:28] <Myrtti> ok, so it doesnt cut off
[21:28] <BarkingFish> Obviously, you'd need to know the english as well for anyone questioning it.
[21:28] <BarkingFish> "In most of the Ubuntu channel, we only speak English. Unfortunately at this time, we do not have recourse to the Malay language. We apologize for any inconvenience. If you can speak English, please do so, or using the internet translator."
[21:29] <IdleOne> Myrtti: we good with the factoid?
[21:30] <Myrtti> yup
[21:30] <IdleOne> :)
[21:30] <IdleOne> BarkingFish: thanks for the help :)
[21:30] <BarkingFish> great, thanks guys, I appreciate it.
[21:30] <IdleOne> welcome
[21:31] <BarkingFish> no problem - it's just that we had a couple of malay guys in earlier asking questions, and I went to find an entry in ubottu to send them on their way, and there wasn't one :)
[21:32] <BarkingFish> anyhow, per your rules, instead of idling, I'll leave you in peace!  Thanks again both of you.
[21:32] <BarkingFish> see ya later
[21:33] <Myrtti> lovely chap
[21:33] <IdleOne> !malay is <alias> ms
[21:33] <IdleOne> !malay
[21:33] <IdleOne> there.
[21:34] <Myrtti> actually
[21:34] <Myrtti> !my
[21:35] <IdleOne> is the correct code my or ms?
[21:35] <IdleOne> my search says ms
[21:35] <IdleOne> !my > BarkingFish
[21:35] <Myrtti> [00:35] ~~~Irssi: #ubuntu-my: Total of 15 nicks [0 ops, 0          halfops, 0 voices, 15 normal]
[21:36] <BarkingFish> IdleOne, That channel has the wrong language code!
[21:36] <IdleOne> BarkingFish: I see.
[21:36] <Myrtti> no it doesnt?
[21:36] <BarkingFish> malay is ms, that channel indicates it's for burma, my = myanmar
[21:37] <IdleOne> question is do they speak the same language?
[21:37] <Myrtti> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.my
[21:37] <BarkingFish> no
[21:37] <Myrtti> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.ms
[21:38] <BarkingFish> Myrtti, per http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malay_language -- ISO 639-1 	ms
[21:38] <BarkingFish> i'm not going by TLD
[21:39] <Myrtti> well...
[21:39] <BarkingFish> Burma's tld is .mr if i remember correctly
[21:39] <Myrtti> the channels are names for the local communities...
[21:40] <Myrtti> mm actually
[21:40] <BarkingFish> so they use the tld rather than the iso code for the language?
[21:40] <IdleOne> I think loco's are supposed to use official iso code
[21:40] <Myrtti> usually yes
[21:40] <Myrtti> !es
[21:40] <funkyHat> iso code for the country though, not language?
[21:40] <Myrtti> !pt
[21:41] <funkyHat> e.g. #ubuntu-uk
[21:41] <Myrtti> !fr
[21:41] <IdleOne> well, you folks fight it out :)
[21:41] <BarkingFish> ah, in that case I apologise.  I saw my on the channel and thought that it was wrong.
[21:42] <BarkingFish> And to answer your question, IdleOne, Saya bertutur dalam bahasa Melayu, tetapi tidak begitu baik.
[21:42] <Myrtti> the channels are for mainly geographical areas, yes
[21:43] <Myrtti> but we point people to the channels that have people
[21:43] <IdleOne> BarkingFish: I don't sp4ak any Malay
[21:43] <BarkingFish> I had a friend of mine translate the message for ubottu, I do speak malay, but my understanding of the language is appalling. It's almost like indonesian.
[21:43] <IdleOne> speak*
[21:43] <Myrtti> and looks like .my would be correct
[21:43] <Myrtti> or -my
[21:43] <BarkingFish> so that message needs doing again
[21:43] <BarkingFish> can you ask ubottu to forget it please?
[21:44] <Myrtti> !forget ms
[21:44] <BarkingFish> thanks
[21:44] <IdleOne> Myrtti: but if they don't speak malay in -my ...
[21:44] <IdleOne> !forget malay
[21:44] <BarkingFish> I'll get Daran to retranslate the normal message, but it'll be tomorrow now. I'd imagine it's about 3am where he is.
[21:45] <Myrtti> IdleOne: it has to start from somewhere
[21:45] <IdleOne> I'm not emotionally attached to the factoid. Just as long as they are accurate :)
[21:46] <BarkingFish> !time Kuala Lumpur
[21:46] <BarkingFish> ah, he doesn't have a time thingy. :(
[21:46] <IdleOne> ubottu: has no arms to wear a watch and she is a she
[21:46] <IdleOne> lol
[21:46] <BarkingFish> dang, 5.50am
[21:46] <IdleOne> !forget has no arms to wear a watch and she is a she
[21:47] <IdleOne> err
[21:47] <IdleOne> whatever bot
[21:48] <BarkingFish> I actually requested it to be added to !ms because when I searched the alis here, I went by topic *ubuntu-ms* and it didn't show up...
[21:48] <BarkingFish> I wonder if it already has a malay message
[21:48] <BarkingFish> !my
[21:49] <BarkingFish> yep, it does.  I assume that was what you sent me, IdleOne
[21:49] <IdleOne> yes
[21:49] <IdleOne> !no my is <reply> bantuan bahasa melayu? sila /join #ubuntu-my
[21:49] <IdleOne> !my
[21:50] <IdleOne> so we all good now?
[21:50] <BarkingFish> yup
[21:50] <IdleOne> yay!
[21:50] <BarkingFish> Would you like that turning into a full length one, like the others, or leaving as is?
[21:50] <IdleOne> if it needs to be fixed please do
[21:50] <IdleOne> if not we will leave it as is
[21:51] <BarkingFish> it doesn't need to be fixed, per se, just wondered if you wanted the whole of ubottu's message doing.
[21:51] <BarkingFish> As it is, it will suffice to point people where they need to go
[21:51] <IdleOne> the goal is for users to be able to find the support they need.
[21:51] <BarkingFish> yup, and with that message they will.
[21:51] <IdleOne> if that factoid gets them where they need to be then great
[21:51] <BarkingFish> I'll leave it as it stands, no need to break what works :)
[21:52] <IdleOne> cool.
[21:52] <BarkingFish> thanks again guys, I appreciate your help.  If I find any languages it hasn't got, I'll try and sort something out for you.
[21:52] <IdleOne> sure thing and thank you.
[21:53] <BarkingFish> np IdleOne - see ya!
[21:53] <IdleOne> nice chap indeed
[23:04] <KLine> how often is op intervention required in #ubuntu? its one of the most common channels to hear about in #freenode. is this simply because #ubuntu is so large, or because it attracts an unruly lot?
[23:07] <bazhang> thats an odd nick
[23:08] <KLine> bazhang: haha, yeah. its legit though, just felt like one more topical to irc
[23:08] <bazhang> kind of an anti-lightning rod :)
[23:09] <bazhang> KLine, probably a mix of both to answer your query
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[23:10] <rww> Not sure why that's funny, it's correct.
[23:11] <KLine> bazhang: hehe, thanks for the answer
[23:11] <rww> Upstream of us are Debian, GNOME, Linux, etc. Downstream of us are Mint, Backtrack, ...
[23:11] <bazhang> rww, as in he wants support for it
[23:11] <rww> so tell him to go away
[23:12] <bazhang> I did. he's not listening.
[23:54] <bazhang> thats the second person in a few hours to think +1 is their personal blog/twitter/rantspace
[23:55] <rww> considering some of its regular users, I am not surprised
[23:55] <elky> they're confusing it with google+?
[23:56] <bazhang> hehe