[00:00] <cyberanger> average_guy: fuel conservation
[00:04] <cyberanger> average_guy: or budget conservation, kinda take your pick this week
[00:16] <cyberanger> wrst: when you say it that way, sounds like you might be batman
[00:17] <cyberanger> I'm making sure nobody notices the secret door to the batcave tonight, but first I gotta see what the batcomputer says toinght, make sure no more important matters tonight, like a bank robbery
[00:32] <average_guy> That's what's up. Just wonderin if you were having car troubles.  I went more then a year without a car before I got the one I have now.
[00:33] <average_guy> Walking got pretty old
[00:33] <cyberanger> same here, until fairly recentlly too
[00:34] <average_guy> I go out and stroll about 5 mi every morning now though just for the exercise.
[00:34] <average_guy> It's a bit diffrent when you don't HAVE to in the rain
[00:36] <average_guy> Walk is good for you!  And I personally worry about the environment..
[02:00] <cyberanger> while I like the enviroment, this is more about my ld habits dying hard
[02:00] <cyberanger> and my wallet this week
[02:01]  * cyberanger points at the pump, nearing 4 bucks with an inbound storm making me check & double check my backup systems
[02:27] <wrst> hello nivik
[02:27] <wrst> cyberanger:  who knows maybe bruce wayne is my real name
[02:28] <nivik> how's it going
[02:30] <wrst> good nivik how are you doing?
[02:51] <cyberanger> hey nivik
[02:51] <cyberanger> wrst: your a long way from wayne manor though ;-)
[02:53] <wrst> yeah i'm not filthy rich either :)
[03:00] <cyberanger> neither was bruce wayne (he was filfthy stinking rich ;-))
[03:02] <wrst> ha ha i'm not that either
[05:38] <jfenn2199> good evening all
[05:39] <Unit193> Hello jfenn2199 and welcome to the Ubuntu Tennessee LoCo! Hope you enjoy your stay!
[05:40] <jfenn2199> Oh I'm old school just went ghost for a while
[05:41] <jfenn2199> but nice to have made your acquaintance Unit193
[05:41] <Unit193> I figured that would be my luck, I just had to beat cyberanger to it ;)
[05:41] <Unit193> How you doing this hot (as in heat) night?
[05:43] <jfenn2199> I'm doing well and compared to earlier today when 50 of us cycling Memphian's road about 6.5 miles in triple digit temperatures this weather is perfect
[05:45] <Unit193> Heh. We don't have AC at home to cool off in so I wouldn't want to do that, but glad you had a great time!
[05:46] <jfenn2199> Oh yes especially getting to slow traffic on a road that bike lanes are presently contested on made it all the better (imagine being in a car stuck behind 50 cyclist 2 in a row on a street where business owners are screaming for shared lanes saying bike lanes are going to slow traffic)
[05:48] <Unit193> That might be worth it right there, but I don't have a working bike at this time to do so. My sister took a ride this morning though!
[05:50] <jfenn2199> well if you're in the Memphis area and have a non-working bike a friend of mine and I specialize in mobile repairs
[05:52] <Unit193> Heh, that I really don't, but you can ask cyber about me (I'm SURE you know him ;) )
[05:54] <jfenn2199> oh yes before I went ghost I was all over the place with this team and now that I have consistent internet access I plan to again!
[05:56] <Unit193> That's great! pace_t is head, cyber is lead of his area, wr|st and someone else of their area and I'm sorry that I can't remember the last one, but I can grep logs if you wish to know :)
[06:24] <Unit193> Was picking a horror movie a bad idea at 2am? :P
[06:42] <jfenn2199> never
[08:12] <jfenn2199> night all
[15:38] <cyberanger> Unit193: can't believe I missed jfenn2199, but yeah, he was the PoC out west for a term, plus I think he's been a member out there for at least another year
[15:38] <cyberanger> hard to beat the guys who've already said it (including him) ;-)
[15:38]  * cyberanger applauds Unit193's effort. (no jok)
[15:38]  * cyberanger applauds Unit193's effort. (no joke)
[15:43] <cyberanger> Unit193: dunno if jfenn2199 had got the memo of resigning the trustee title, and pace getting it, and any election results, figure he would from the site & list
[15:44] <cyberanger> pace_t_zulu: just got to thinking, perhaps we should email reminders & summaries for the meeting
[15:45] <cyberanger> seems the list has more members than any other loco asset (well, aside from launchpad's count, which I take with a grain of salt)
[15:50] <cyberanger> wrst: you awake?
[17:16] <wrst> dhey cyberanger
[17:16] <wrst> hmm
[17:16] <wrst> hey cyberanger!
[17:16] <cyberanger> hey wrst, rare you have a quiet morning
[17:16] <wrst> cyberanger:  been moving stuff so not very quiet :)
[17:17] <cyberanger> lol, finally moving eh, bout time ;-)
[17:17] <wrst> how are you doing cyberanger?
[17:17] <wrst> been moving for a month it seems!
[17:18]  * cyberanger pulls out the calendar, points out that's cause it's been a month ;-)
[17:18] <wrst> really... hmm guess it has!
[17:19] <cyberanger> not bad, battery seems to have died overnight (checked for any human error, switches on the lights, door ajar (leaving any door lights on) none
[17:19] <cyberanger> so swapping out the car battery with a stronger deep cycle (truck won't mind, neither will the battery for some short term usage)
[17:20] <wrst> that makes me think i gotta get a battery backup for the house
[17:22] <cyberanger> makes me think why have you not already? ;-)
[17:22] <cyberanger> (part of why I choose to standardise myself on 12vdc is this sort of thing, insured a ton of interoperability)
[17:23] <cyberanger> & you know me, I've got a backup plan for a backup plan
[17:23] <cyberanger> (just not enough cash to carry out every little plan)
[17:24] <wrst> cyberanger: i've seen some battery backups that people build out of deep cycle batteries have them under their house hooked into the fuse box etc etc
[17:25] <cyberanger> it's not like I'm filthy stinking rich like bruce wayne, with a fancy batcomputer hidden under my house that I've dubbed the batcave
[17:25]  * cyberanger wonders if wrst notes the reference to last nights joke
[17:26] <wrst> ha ha cyberanger :)
[17:26] <cyberanger> wrst: yeah, apartment here so I can't quite do that, sorta flipped it around, laptops & netbooks battries last long enough to swap off the MAINS & onto the gelcells
[17:27] <wrst> i am going to have to get one just to keep my server, modem, and router up
[17:27] <wrst> something that will keep them up 5-10 minutes will take care of pretty much any outage we have
[17:28] <cyberanger> how powerful a computer?
[17:28] <wrst> atom processor
[17:31] <cyberanger> PSU rating?
[17:31] <wrst> hmm don't know let me check
[17:33] <wrst> cyberanger: 300W
[17:37] <cyberanger> high, but the question is actual pull
[17:38] <cyberanger> modem & router is easy for that margin, but I think that server needs an actual UPS, which can provide 15 minutes of juice, but can command a shutdown after that (lest you deplete the battery too far without a charge controller
[17:38] <cyberanger> which is a fair concern)
[17:45] <wrst> yeah it doesn't pullw near 300
[18:32] <cyberanger> but the issue is still how much juice for how long
[18:35] <Unit193> I have an old APC that I have hooked up
[18:40] <wrst> cyberanger: I have considered a backup generator for our entire house but that gets high $$
[18:40] <cyberanger> oh yeah
[18:43]  * cyberanger says in his british accent, have you seen the price of petrol lately, it's costing me 5 quid for a liter
[18:53]  * wrst doesn't understand british
[18:55] <cyberanger> quid, slang for pound (like buck for dollar here)
[18:55] <cyberanger> liter, metric
[18:55] <cyberanger> basically I said gas is high
[19:16]  * wrst understands that much british :P
[21:20] <Unit193> Middle TN vs Purdue. Sorry about your loss