[00:03] <qin> phenrique: Do you know that it is publicly logged channel?
[00:03] <satch5150> anyone else know of any workarounds or have any other thoughts ?
[00:03] <new001> Why would I use apt-get over aptitude since aptitude has switches like -r which are super handy ?
[00:04] <klj613> in ubuntu, when i enable caps, type 'H'. then disable and type 'ello' i get HEllo (i seem to hit e before the OS disables the caps).. why? been irritating me for a while now..
[00:04] <yeats> new001: personal preference?
[00:04] <new001> yeats: does apt-get have features that aptitude does not?
[00:04] <new001> yeats: so I may know when to use it
[00:05] <yeats> new001: aptitude probably has more features - apt-get is pretty much the standard command line program to access APT
[00:05] <new001> yeats: gotcha, thank you
[00:05] <yeats> new001: they are basically equivalent, though - you can use them the same way
[00:06] <jack__> I am trying to install sun JDK on 11.04 and the script has lauched a doc that looks like the "accept the lic." but it doesn't seem to accept input, the OK button is not active.  Anbody know how to submit "OK" and get the script to proceed?
[00:06] <selite> Guys I installed Ubuntu via Wubi from Windows 7 and now I have 30Gb of storage but I want more. How can I get more storage for my Ubuntu operating system?
[00:06] <yeats> jack__: tabbing to OK doesn't work?
[00:06] <jack__> I don't think so, but I'll try again, hold on
[00:06] <jack__> and thanks!
[00:07] <jack__> it worked, for some reason it didn't or maybe I did something screwy, thanks!!!
[00:07] <Pricey> selite: Check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide#How_do_I_resize_the_virtual_disks.3F
[00:10] <Zopiac> How do you count the number of lines a command outputs?
[00:11] <yeats> Zopiac: pipe it to 'wc -l'
[00:11] <Zopiac> yeats: ok, thanks. I had thought that wc only accepts file inputs, not piping
[00:12] <volga629> where I can find package xstroke ?
[00:16] <yeats> !info xstroke
[00:17] <olfireball> On monday I will start to push ubuntu on my new biz...
[00:17] <volga629> ubottu: 10.10
[00:17] <olfireball> yeats, gestikk?
[00:17] <xorg-pass> hell0
[00:18] <apollo> how do I reset the default action to perform when a dvd is inserted?
[00:18] <xorg-pass> read the nice manual of ubuntu xubuntu etc..
[00:18] <martin_tsc> How do I change this into a correct formula for PHP? http://pastebin.com/sjjW9tEF
[00:18] <szal> xorg-pass: not helpful
[00:18] <apollo> Unity/ubiquity makes it so hard to find settings...
[00:19] <genjix> erm, wtf... random websites keep redirecting to a random chinese site on ubuntu
[00:19] <genjix> yousee.com
[00:19] <szal> !afk | xiella-afk
[00:19] <genjix> am i infected? (a world's first?)
[00:19] <xorg-pass> that shouldn't be helpful, it should be to just to think of..
[00:20] <pooltable> how to run Android emu on ubuntu???
[00:20] <szal> genjix: afaics, that site doesn't exist
[00:20] <apollo> xorg-pass: find me the page... it's not in there
[00:20] <martin_tsc> How do I change this into a correct formula for PHP? http://pastebin.com/NusvXNCg
[00:20] <genjix> heh it seems to be firefox ALONE
[00:20] <genjix> one of my plugins has gone rogue?
[00:21] <xorg-pass> lol
[00:21] <szal> except if it's supposed to show a search box and some categories
[00:21] <xorg-pass> don't worry be happy - ?
[00:21] <szal> but that looks like one of those templates for domains that aren't in use
[00:22] <xorg-pass> how about vm's in an internal network?
[00:22] <xorg-pass> any things for reading - thank ya
[00:22] <szal> xorg-pass: you have an actual *buntu problem?  if not, please /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:23] <krypton_caos> alguem fala portugues aqui?
[00:24] <szal> !pt | krypton_caos
[00:24] <everybody> bahhhh
[00:25] <yeats> olfireball: eh?
[00:27] <Spaceman> took it three days to crash, not bad
[00:27] <szal> ?
[00:28] <martin_tsc> where can I get help for php? the php channel need invite
[00:29] <olfireball> martin, what do you want to do?
[00:31] <exutux> apollo: go into your home folder > edit > preferences > multimedia
[00:32] <exutux> and select your prefered applications there
[00:32] <martin_tsc> convert a formula I wrote in excel to php, but  know harldy anything there
[00:34] <pabelanger> evening, any advice which channel I would use to help triage a backport request?
[00:34] <rayfalkorr> доброго вечера
[00:34] <sublim21> hey all
[00:34] <sublim21> got a quick question.  im running ubuntu on a netbook. and i got a little panel uptop.  i've somehow moved one of the icons
[00:34] <sublim21> and i don't know how to move it back
[00:35] <martin_tsc> sublim right click unlock/move
[00:36] <sublim21> martin_tsc: i can't right click on this app
[00:36] <sublim21> i don't have the option to move
[00:37] <martin_tsc> then sry idk
[00:37] <sublim21> D:
[00:38] <martin_tsc> Komodo tells me i got an error on this line but I dont know php very well yet.  $distance_factor = IF ($distance < 1000)
[00:38] <urlin2u> sublim21, how did you move it to begin with and what is the icon?
[00:39] <sublim21> urlin2u: im not sure how i moved it.  i was trying to get the hdmi to work earlier and my focus wasn't on my netbooks screen
[00:39] <sublim21> and the application is jupiter
[00:40] <martin_tsc> cant anyone direct me to a decent place to get help for php
[00:40] <Mean_Admin> anyone use ddrescue around here ?
[00:40] <urlin2u> sublim21, is it off try restarting it, or is it somewhere else now?
[00:41] <IdleOne> martin_tsc: ##php
[00:41] <IdleOne> or is it #php
[00:41] <sublim21> urlin2u: i've tried turning it off and on.  it goes back to the same spot.
[00:41] <martin_tsc> invite only
[00:42] <sublim21> urlin2u: nevermind.  i just moved it.  i had to right click NEXT to it, not on it.
[00:42] <fr0sted> sup all
[00:42] <debugnet> Mean_Admin: what you looking at as far as ddrescue?
[00:42] <urlin2u> sublim21, it helps if you give like this information on X desktop I had Jupiter here and now it is here, so at the least this isn't 20 questions.
[00:43] <urlin2u> sublim21, cool
[00:44] <sublim21> urlin2u: im confused by previous statement
[00:44] <Mean_Admin> debugnet:  Well, I'm using it (actually GNU ddrescue or gddrescue) and I have stuff like  [time from last successful read: 10m]
[00:44] <urlin2u> sublim21, give a better description, but the very first respnse was the answer. :D
[00:44] <Mean_Admin> debugnet: and when I use the no-split option, it finishes in 1 second without any copying
[00:44] <Mean_Admin> debugnet: am I to interpret this as a really really dead drive ?
[00:45] <sublim21> urlin2u: yes.  couldn't agree more.  stating your problem clearly is of utmost importance.  thanks for the help.  its just odd the little lightening icon takes more space than is obvious
[00:45] <urlin2u> sublim21, it's not always easy on your end that's for sure.:D
[00:45] <debugnet> Mean_Admin: what is the exact cmd line you are typing (without sensitive stuff obviously) so i can look at what it is doing.
[00:46] <sublim21> urlin2u: true.
[00:46] <sublim21> errr
[00:46] <sublim21> 1
[00:46] <jack__> how do you select the java implementation you want to use after installing sun?  do I need to just reboot?
[00:46] <Mean_Admin> debugnet: ddrescue -d -r 3 /dev/sda3 /dev/sdb1 /media/log/logfile
[00:46] <debugnet> Mean_Admin: dead drives will sit there for hours before really giving you an indication it is truly f'd
[00:47] <Polah> jack__: sudo alternatives --config java   and select the one you want
[00:48] <denstark> Hello! Was just wondering how I can have other users access an external drive automatically mounted
[00:48] <denstark> Using Ubuntu 11.04
[00:48] <Mean_Admin> debugnet: at this point, I just wanna copy everything wholesale (thus using --no-split) but it doesn't do that .. it just finishes quickly and shows as result  0 bytes rescued
[00:49] <Polah> denstark: Change permissions of files on the drive so they're publically read/writeable and you might want to configure a umask to make it so new files are also publically read/writeable
[00:49] <debugnet> according to my help, the -r is for reverse and -d is for O_DIRECT. both the options would not require other options (ie -r 3) so the three doesn't mean anything. also what is the log file, was that suppose to be a redirect ( > ) of stdout?
[00:49] <grumbly> How do I discern what version of Ubuntu i am on?  I'm super drawing a blank and all Ican remember is uname
[00:49] <Mean_Admin> debugnet: I've looked through the man page and --no-split is the closest thing I found; I don't want to use good old    dd   on its own since it apparently just ignores errors and by simple ignoring them, it brakes any semblence of filesystem
[00:49] <Polah> Or for a bit more security, put the users you want to have access in a group and then set file permissions so only owner and group can read/write
[00:49] <denstark> Polah: I tried sudo chmod go+rx -R /media/drive but the permissions didn't change
[00:50] <debugnet> Mean_Admin: true that about dd
[00:50] <new001> What is the command to get an X on your cursor to kill an x window?
[00:50] <Polah> denstark: sudo chmod 755
[00:50] <denstark> new001: xkill i believe
[00:50] <new001> thank you
[00:50] <Polah> denstark: 755 is read execute, 766 for read/write with no execute
[00:50] <new001> denstark, that was it, thanks
[00:50] <Mean_Admin> debugnet: I thought  -r  mean retries, lemme look at that again
[00:50] <denstark> Polah: Ah ok.. I like letters better than numbers, trying 755 now
[00:50] <debugnet> Mean_Admin: default options for ddrescue could be as simple as: ddrescue /dev/sda3 /dev/sdb1
[00:50] <denstark> :P
[00:51] <urlin2u> grumbly, lsb_release -a
[00:51] <Mean_Admin> according to : http://linux.die.net/man/1/ddrescue
[00:51] <grumbly> thank you urlin2u
[00:51] <debugnet> Mean_Admin: one side note though is that the destination should usually be a file or drive at least the same size or LARGER than the source drive
[00:51] <denstark> Polah: chmod 755 -R /media/drive still doesn't change the permissions :(
[00:51] <Mean_Admin> debugnet: sorry, according to http://linux.die.net/man/1/ddrescue ,  -r, --max-retries=<n>       exit after given retries (-1=infinity) [0]
[00:51] <debugnet> Mean_Admin: that could be a version issue with the -r option
[00:51] <denstark> Polah: it doesn't throw errors or anything
[00:51] <exutux> is that an NTFS partition denstark ?
[00:52] <Polah> denstark: Do you want write access or only read/execute?
[00:52] <denstark> exutux: yes indeed it is
[00:52] <grumbly> Now, is it worth it to upgrade from 10.10 to 11.04?
[00:52] <denstark> Polah: Just read will be fine
[00:52] <Polah> denstark: Or that. NTFS requires remounting to change permissions.
[00:52] <szal> denstark: what filesystem?
[00:52] <Mean_Admin> debugnet: I'm using 1.11
[00:52] <denstark> szal: ntfs
[00:52] <Mean_Admin> debugnet: so that manpage should be valid
[00:52] <debugnet> Mean_Admin: 1.14 myself
[00:52] <szal> NTFS doesn't know Unix permissions, you set permissions w/ uid and gid in the mount options
[00:52] <debugnet> Mean_Admin:  probably
[00:52] <Mean_Admin> debugnet: bleeding-edge, eh :P
[00:52] <denstark> Polah: Aha.. so I guess I should just add it into fstab, I was thinking I could do it the easy way ;)
[00:53] <urlin2u> grumbly, download the ISO and look at it really, unity is different, but there is a classic desktop as well
[00:53] <denstark> szal: Thank you, I'll do it via fstab w/ uid/gid
[00:53] <Mean_Admin> debugnet: all right then ... so I'll try a vanilla        ddrescue /dev/sda3 /dev/sdb1
[00:53] <debugnet> Mean_Admin: funny, try to sometimes
[00:53] <Polah> denstark: Yes, add an entry to fstab with permissions set through options and it'll do them each time the system is loaded
[00:53] <szal> or, respectively, umask/gmask/dmask
[00:53] <grumbly> i've used unity... not a fan, really, but that's probably because I just dont want to get used to it.
[00:53] <denstark> I will do that, thanks all for the help
[00:53] <szal> !ntfs | denstark
[00:54] <fr0sted> btw quassel irc is pretty neat irc app for ubuntu :)
[00:54] <debugnet> Mean_Admin: my recommendation would send to a file so you can keep the image for backup purposes later, just a thought...
[00:54] <grumbly> urlin2u: is that the only major difference?  there's no boot time improvement? no back end goodness?
[00:54] <Mean_Admin> debugnet: so mount the destination ?
[00:55] <grumbly> urlin2u: also, I dont remember how to boot an ISO from GRUB2
[00:55] <denstark> How can I grab the UUID of this drive? I'd rather use that but I am not sure how to grab it
[00:55] <Polah> denstark: Mount it and do mount -l
[00:55] <szal> denstark: blkid
[00:55] <Polah> oh no wait, sudo blkid is right. Had a bit of a dumb moment
[00:55] <urlin2u> grumbly, I suppose it is really a subjective answer here in the end boot time is the same pretty much updated apps, we really don't answer these sort of questions; to many variables.
[00:55] <debugnet> Mean_Admin: neg, just send it to a file on another drive that has enough free space. you can subsequently mount it with loop option to view it later after the hours of waiting for it to rescue the sectors one at a time
[00:56] <denstark> szal and Polah: Thanks :) Got it!
[00:56] <Mean_Admin> debugnet: I had a destination partition /dev/sdb1 that I was using
[00:57] <Mean_Admin> debugnet: in my original tries ... I'll just mount that I guess (it's empty) ; but I'm assuming a 10 minute since last succesfull read is pretty bad
[00:57] <grumbly> urlin2u: fair point.  You know of any verdant places I can read on how to improve the performance of my beater ASUS K50Ij?
[00:57] <urlin2u> grumbly, no really.
[00:57] <urlin2u> not
[00:58] <debugnet> Mean_Admin: that is fine but just keep in mind that the destination will become and exact image of the source drive, to include deleted files, drive 'properties' like file system it uses and fragmenation, etc.
[00:58] <johngilbrough> I'm looking for a way to convey the client's timezone to the server when working with gnome-terminal - any ideas?
[00:58] <grumbly> urlin2u: phooey.  How about laptop performance in general?
[00:59] <Mean_Admin> debugnet: so I just initiated  ddrescue /dev/sda3 /media/dest/img logfile
[00:59] <WinCamXP> hi
[00:59] <urlin2u> grumbly, I think you have to get in the trenches like the rest of us and search the web and test, any answer her is totally subjective, and a opinion.
[00:59] <Mean_Admin> debugnet: however, it's splitting  and then /media/dest/img file isn't growing ..
[01:00] <grumbly> urlin2u: i know... UGH...  I wish google would archive stuff from more than a year back...
[01:00] <debugnet> Mean_Admin: put a > inbetween the img and logfile so the logfile gets the output. again might be a 1.11 version issue with it asking for a log file but that just seemed strange to have a third file name in the command to me
[01:01] <denstark> Thank you everyone for the help ;)
[01:01] <urlin2u> grumbly, that laptop is hardly old, kore ram is always good I have laptops 5 to 8 years old
[01:01] <urlin2u> more
[01:02] <rowas> Hey guys
[01:02] <sublim21> so this is my first installation of linux.  and as such i've installed/edited/bumbled through installations
[01:02] <Mean_Admin> debugnet: I omitted the log file, doens't really matter
[01:02] <sublim21> how can i be sure to squeeze the most performance out of this weeeee little laptop
[01:02] <grumbly> urlin2u: i know it's not old, but it's not my amazing macbook...  which just pooped it's guts out on my lap.
[01:03] <sublim21> thats the worse.  pooping out your guts
[01:03] <rowas> I was wondering about the ARM version of Ubuntu, and how I would go about installing it on a smartphone or tablet.
[01:03] <rowas> More specifically, I'm thinking about finding a way to get it onto a Tegra 3 tablet
[01:03] <grumbly> sublim21: the joy of slippery floors and over-stuffed hands.
[01:03] <Mean_Admin> debugnet: let me know if this sounds familiar: if i use vanilla   ddrescue /dev/sda3 /media/dest/img    then it says it's splitting and /media/dest/img has a size of 0
[01:03] <uofm49426> off brand rtl8185 wifi card or a old belkin rt2561 witch sucks less
[01:03] <rowas> grumbly: that's obscene. lol
[01:04] <grumbly> lol
[01:04] <grumbly> urlin2u: never heard of Kore ram
[01:04] <urlin2u> more
[01:05] <AegNuddel> I have ubuntu studio and just got some new speakers but my computer will not detect them
[01:05] <debugnet> Mean_Admin: interesting...is it running at the moment?
[01:05] <Mean_Admin> yep
[01:05] <grumbly> urlin2u: oh.  sorry.  I wasnt trying to poke fun.
[01:06] <sublim21> grumbly: sucks man.  lets all have a moment of silence for your lose
[01:06] <Mean_Admin> debugnet: I'm assuming there are so many errors, it just keeps splitting, trying to find some useful peice of data to copy
[01:06] <rowas> AegNuddel: Uninstall it and go with full Ubuntu. It's a miracle you got that far. lol
[01:06] <grumbly> sublim21: it will rise again.  this is not the 1st time i've tossed a laptop
[01:06] <urlin2u> grumbly, I didn't think you were  corrected it two lines afterward.
[01:06] <grumbly> or this one
[01:06] <sublim21> grumbly: may it rise like a might phoenix from the ashes
[01:07] <AegNuddel> but it played sound when I had my sister's speakers in, so it makes no sense.  the only difference is these need electric power which they currently have
[01:07] <grumbly> sublim21: no... like a laptop from my neighborhood "tech nerd" teen!  he thinks he's so smart!  it's cute... and gross... but I give him $ for parts and labor.
[01:07] <scollier> hi, i've read the ubuntu community doc about setting up pxe server.  i'm trying to set up a PXE install of ubuntu 11.04.  do i need to add any special kernel options to the menu file?
[01:08] <Mean_Admin> debugnet: in a previous log from a previous try, the log indicates the position of data being read
[01:08] <scollier> right now it's grabbing the initrd and kernel, and stopping at "(initramfs)" No init found
[01:08] <Mean_Admin> debugnet: it's all either skipped or "no data from this extent was copied succesfully"
[01:08] <Mean_Admin> debugnet: basically, it seems to me .. it tried to read, saw errors, skipped ahead, more errors skipped ahead and so on
[01:09] <grumbly> OH!!! does anyone have any experience recovering data from a previously formatted hpfs+ drive?
[01:09] <grumbly> the interweb wasn't friendly for this task...
[01:10] <debugnet> Mean_Admin: strange, maybe that version requires you to specify a starting offset/byte location?
[01:10] <jorge_> someone can help me with a video card nvidia NV34 [GeForce FX 5200] en ubuntu 10.04 , i try alots differents ways to do n google but nothing
[01:10] <debugnet> Mean_Admin: ...or size/length of the data that you are trying to copy?
[01:11] <szal> jorge_: what exactly do you need help with?
[01:11] <Mean_Admin> debugnet: maybe .. I doubt it though. As it's running, it's showing me the pos on the hard drive, it's combing through the entire thing just "splitting failed blocks" (for 6.6 minutes, it's been doing just that)
[01:11] <jorge_> install drivers szal
[01:12] <debugnet> Mean_Admin: actually based on what you described, it was actually doing what it was suppose to do...maybe i am just bad at chatting and didn't realize that that zero byte size is normal at first...
[01:12] <Mean_Admin> debugnet: you can indicate offset and size and length but I'm pretty sure it's optional; in the logfile , it starts at 0x000000
[01:12] <Technicus> hello, i noticed that when i am running my laptop on battery vs. plugged in to AC that my wireless connections seem weaker than when my laptop is plugged in.  Is there a way to adjust the power settings so you can dedicate full power to the wireless unit consistantly???? Thanks!
[01:12] <szal> jorge_: 'sudo apt-get install nvidia-173 && sudo nvidia-xconfig', then reboot
[01:12] <grumbly> jorge_: do you have the correct drivers from Nvidia?
[01:12] <mrmadmoneyman> hello
[01:12] <mrmadmoneyman> Anyone here good with Linux routing and tc htb?
[01:12] <BlueProtoman> Does Linux have something similar to Joy2Key on Windows?  Eg, where I can take the input of a gamepad (a Bluetooth one, in this case) and turn it into keyboard input for programs that don't support gamepads?  Or does one at least run well in WINE?
[01:13] <mrmadmoneyman> ls
[01:13] <kingofswords> is .cache and .config foler suppose to be in my file browser side bar?
[01:14] <Mean_Admin> debugnet: yeah, splitting except when I call no-split, it finishes within 1 second .. according to itself, it consider the whole partition as one gigantic error :S
[01:14] <jorge_> i try different from system-administration n nothing then from nvidia official page n nothing n another ways i found n google
[01:14] <Mean_Admin> debugnet: errors:1  errsize:479GB
[01:14] <debugnet> Mean_Admin: maybe it is working then afterall, trying waiting for it to do its thing for a while but if it stops after only a few minutes or an hour only then something truly went wrong
[01:14] <Barzogh> hello, got a weird issue here , my "id_rsa" and id_rsa.pub" disappeared from .ssh/ however if i try to locate them, it shows me the right path .. any idea?
[01:15] <Mean_Admin> debugnet: so I should let it run for like hours and hours ?
[01:15] <debugnet> Mean_Admin: that error messages means that it had one bad spot, bad drives will normally have that but the program is designed to skip those bad spots and continue with the good spots.
[01:16] <debugnet> Mean_Admin: yep, could be for days depending on the drive size.
[01:16] <jorge_> let me try this 'sudo apt-get install nvidia-173 && sudo nvidia-xconfig'
[01:16] <Mean_Admin> debugnet: you're right, unfortunately the whole log was *filled* with   skipping because of errors    and   couldn't recover anything
[01:16] <Mean_Admin> debugnet: I literally didn't see a single ANYthing recovered
[01:16] <Mean_Admin> debugnet: all right then.. days it is !
[01:17] <Lucas_> ola!?
[01:17] <debugnet> Mean_Admin: sorry about that, i had a 40 GB drive that took literally 72 hours to recover and it had about 10% drive damage...good luck.
[01:18] <MSS> hello and good evening
[01:19] <MSS> I'm looking for some really basic help on ubuntu, anyone
[01:19] <bazhang> !manual | MSS start here
[01:19] <urlin2u> MSS, you will need to ask a question.
[01:20] <bazhang> !wiki | MSS  and here
[01:20] <WhoCaresss> What do I put into this command to use fdisk on my boot/main hdd? fdisk -l <disk>
[01:20] <rypervenche> WhoCaresss: Figure out which disk your main one is. "sudo blkid" to find it.
[01:21] <urlin2u> WhoCaresss, I don't use fdisk but stae your intentions.
[01:21] <Mean_Admin> debugnet: weeeeeeeeeeeeeeell then ... I guess, yeah, I'll look again at the status in 3 weeks
[01:21] <WhoCaresss> finding if my partitions aren't aligned correctly (they aren't) and then re-aligning my partitions
[01:21] <Mean_Admin> debugnet: thanks for your assistance man :)
[01:21] <K-Rich> hey all
[01:21] <WhoCaresss> I have win7 and ubuntu at my disposal but it looks like gparted would be the best choice
[01:22] <RussellAlan> Installed 11.04 from Live CD, had Win 7 on /sda1/ and Ubuntu on /sda3 ... Made bootloader sda3 and / as mount folder, Now Grub2 does not load and it loads directly into Win 7, can anyone help? I went to Boot-Repair on  Live CD but it didm recognize sda1
[01:22] <urlin2u> WhoCaresss, aligned correctly?
[01:22] <RussellAlan> Please help
[01:23] <urlin2u> !grub | RussellAlan
[01:24] <debugnet> Mean_Admin: you are very welcome
[01:24] <WhoCaresss> big hdds need to be aligned in order to singificantly increase performace, urlin2u. http://consumer.media.seagate.com/2010/03/the-digital-den/4k-sector-hard-drive-primer/
[01:24] <RussellAlan> Never worked
[01:24] <MSS> thanks for the links, but I'm experiencing a pretty steep learning curve here, just booted my very first linux today and need to install VMWare player from a downloaded bundle. can't seem to find any specific examples for mounting the file and installing
[01:25] <rypervenche> MSS: Do you NEED VMWare? virtualbox is a lot easier to install.
[01:25] <urlin2u> WhoCaresss, did you notice the refrences to XP that is not really true anymore and barely was to begin with.
[01:26] <WhoCaresss> yes I did, however I'm fairly sure I created my partitions incorrectly (did not let Ubuntu auto-configure them). I know of know other reason why my drive would be performing so poorly
[01:27] <Guest40473> problem:  i am getting an error from Archive Manager, "tar: unexpected EOF in file"   but i got no error when i created the archive
[01:27] <Guest40473> nothing in dmesg,
[01:27] <Guest40473> is there a way to tell what is wrong with the archive?
[01:27] <rypervenche> Guest40473: How did you create the tar?
[01:27] <Guest40473> "sudo tar -cpjf /media/a6* --exclude=.etc,etc"
[01:27] <Guest40473> er
[01:28] <boothelp> hello
[01:28] <Guest40473> "sudo tar -cpjf /media/FreeAg(snip)/30gig-a6fab.tbz /media/a6f(snip)/ --exclude=/media/a6(snip)*  --exclude=/media/a6(snip)/Desktop/maemo_back*  --exclude=/media/a6(snip)/Desktop/maveri*"
[01:28] <Dmole> whovaresss: are they showing us as hda or sda? are they ntfs? what's the speeds
[01:29] <Guest40473> sudo because  /media/a6f*   is a root partition i am no longer using, and i just wanted to read & grab everything
[01:29] <boothelp> hello iv run into shit with my bootlouder
[01:30] <urlin2u> boothelp, tell us all about it.
[01:30] <Guest40473> i will just run the tar again with -vv or somehting.    it took 30+ minutes to bzip the first 2.7 gigs, though
[01:30] <Guest40473> rypervenche: im just wondering if there is a post-mortem i can do while i wait.. -_-
[01:31] <boothelp> wel iv instaled ubutu, but the extarnal drive ware it was on just gave his life
[01:31] <boothelp> now wen i start the bootloder it shows windows and 2times ubunto
[01:31] <urlin2u> boothelp, meaning the drive is dead?
[01:31] <boothelp> yes
[01:32] <urlin2u> boothelp, have you run a smart check with a live cd?
[01:32] <boothelp> what the windows cd?
[01:32] <fr0sted> boothelp: did you upgrade from 10 - 11 ?
[01:33] <urlin2u> boothelp, no a ubuntu in dsik manager
[01:33] <urlin2u> disk
[01:33] <boothelp> no i just wanted to try ubuntu
[01:33]  * nnull e-stretches
[01:33] <fr0sted> nnull:  morning :)
[01:33] <fr0sted> brb smoke
[01:33] <nnull> Morning fr0sty ;)
[01:34] <fr0sted> morning mate, im still playing :D
[01:35] <urlin2u> boothelp, can you boot windows with its bootloader?
[01:35] <jorge_-> the same
[01:35] <nnull> Thats the way son, sleep is for the weak and fatigued. Those without bulk mother.
[01:35] <boothelp> oke
[01:35] <padhu> Good Morning to all
[01:36] <urlin2u> !pm | boothelp
[01:36] <jorge_-> You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver.  Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server.
[01:36] <padhu> boothelp: try on #windows
[01:36] <bungholio> anyone know the theme for the square look? -for openbox; http://box-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=73768&file1=73768-1.jpg&file2=73768-2.jpg&file3=&name=QuietNight
[01:36] <Fenixdeux> whoa.. I continue to surprise myself ... just got kick-bann-hammered on #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:37] <urlin2u> Fenixdeux, lol
[01:37] <Dmole> how?!
[01:37] <Fenixdeux> urlin2u: ain't fun from where I'm lookin' at it
[01:38] <rww> Fenixdeux: #ubuntu is for Ubuntu technical support, please use #ubuntu-ops for resolving operator actions in Ubuntu core channels.
[01:38] <Fenixdeux> 'k will do
[01:39] <jorge_-> when i run nvidia-xconfig i  got this --> WARNING: Unable to locate/open X configuration file.New X configuration file written to '/etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[01:40] <szal> jorge_-: no reason to worry
[01:41] <penos> im using ubuntu 11.4 right now
[01:41] <jorge_-> what u mean szal
[01:41] <szal> jorge_-: reboot & enjoy (as far as enjoying is possible w/ an FX)
[01:42] <urlin2u> penos, thnks for sharing.
[01:42] <Dmole> is ubuntu using the x server in that version anyway
[01:42] <K-Rich> i can't use 11.04+
[01:42] <jorge_-> szal, im tired to reboot n nothing happend
[01:42] <K-Rich> my vid card is blacklisted
[01:43] <szal> jorge_-: ?
[01:43] <fr0sted> K-Rich: use the 185 version driver and it works ( for dualscreen anyway )
[01:43] <jorge_-> szal, when i reboot i cant login
[01:43] <fr0sted> worked for me
[01:43] <NeedWirelessHelp> Anyone willing to dial into my PC to get a wireless network adapter working? It's a netgear wg311 and I am on lucid. I have ndiswrapper/utils installed and the WinXP driver file handy...something is still not working
[01:43] <szal> jorge_-: meaning?
[01:44] <jorge_-> show a banner something wrong with a X
[01:45] <szal> jorge_-: exact error msg please
[01:45] <jorge_-> ok szal i will back
[01:46] <Hot2Trot> does anyone know a good way to make 'ls -la |less' show colors? Some .bashrc alias or something?
[01:46] <jrib> Hot2Trot: less -R
[01:47] <jrib> Hot2Trot: and pass --color=always to ls
[01:48] <szal> jrib: I guess the colours are stripped by less, so you'd need an option for less to show the colours
[01:48] <Hot2Trot> jrib: can you explain in a little more depth? You mean i should make an alias saying less= less --color=always ?
[01:48] <Hot2Trot> also, running 'ls -la |less -R' does not give colors
[01:48] <jrib> Hot2Trot: you would run ls --color=always | less -R
[01:48] <fisix> i'm dual booting ubuntu and windows 7. i'd like to encrypt the windows 7 partition with true crypt, but i'm not sure whether it'll overwrite grub. what do?
[01:48] <szal> ls will show the colours anyway
[01:48] <Griz64> hey folks. is there any way to specify which locale i am in so i'm not constantly pulling down ALL of these different language packs???
[01:49] <Fenixdeux> whoa.. I've been quited in #ubuntu-offtopic and then after complaining I gots it on #ubuntu-ops
[01:49] <Hot2Trot> jrib: thanks, toying with it now...
[01:49] <raevol> if apt-get downloads a package but errors out on installing it, where does it store the package it downloaded?
[01:50] <szal> raevol: /var/cache/apt/packages/ or something
[01:50] <klamJ> raevol: /var/cache/apt/archives/
[01:51] <raevol> thanks
[01:51] <Griz64> is there any way to specify which locale i am in so i'm not constantly pulling down ALL of these different language packs???
[01:53] <szal> Griz64: what language packs?
[01:55] <ktwohig9> just updated nvidia drivers to get unity working on 11.04....what a PITA. Killed my TV on HDMI. Had to search everywhere for a solution
[01:56] <fr0sted> ktwohig9:  how did you get it working, i had the same issue with dualscreen setup
[01:56] <ktwohig9> had to go to the nvidia x system and configure it as split screen, then make it a clone
[01:56] <jxshxx> Howdy!  So, I put 10.04LTS on a laptop with a dead screen with the intent of using external keyboard/mouse/monitor.  What's buggin' me is that it appears I cannot close the lid once I've turned it on.  The choices in Power Management for "closed lid" are Hibernate, Suspend, Blank Screen and Shut down.  Is there a way to keep it running w/ a closed lid?
[01:57] <fr0sted> ktwohig9:  i used the 185 driver, and it worked for me with no problems
[01:57] <jrib> jxshxx: wouldn't blank screen do that?
[01:57] <new2net> I am trying to set up two PCs like this. http://tinyurl.com/3ugp4w5 . Box 1 is Ubuntu Natty. I thought it would be a simple setup- put the NIC in and go. But that's not the case.  NIC 1 is actually onboard. What else do I need to do? (I need box2 to go thru box1, it can't be put on the router directly)
[01:57] <jrib> jxshxx: oh it blanks the external...
[01:57] <fisix> i'm dual booting ubuntu and windows 7. i'd like to encrypt the windows 7 partition with true crypt, but i'm not sure whether it'll overwrite grub. what do?
[01:57] <jxshxx> right
[01:57] <ktwohig9> fr0sted: I used the following http://askubuntu.com/questions/37269/second-screen-detection/37274#37274
[01:58] <Gredeu> lets do it
[01:58] <NeedWirelessHelp> Running sudo dhclient wlan0          Outputs this: No DHCPOFFERS received            Any ideas?
[01:58] <szal> fisix: hmm, Gnome/Unity/whatever you use must be dumbed down in that respect; KDE also has options 'Sleep' and 'Do nothing'
[01:59] <ktwohig9> I do have to say I really like this Unity setup though
[02:00] <dhacker29> quick question how do I add java to my default path? when I am compiling andriod I have to always add the path from the command line
[02:00] <szal> sorry, I meant to poke jxshxx
[02:00] <Griz64> szal, everything not en_US
[02:00] <szal> jxshxx: or at least in Natty it has, no idea about Lucid
[02:00] <Brite> how do i install lubuntu restricted extras on lubuntu 11
[02:01] <jorge_-> szal,
[02:01] <bazhang> Brite, sudo apt-get install lubuntu-restricted-extras
[02:01] <xangua> Brite: install lubuntu-restricted-extras
[02:02] <Brite> but i cant say yes to the licence it is stuck up
[02:02] <jorge_-> here --> Ubuntu is running in low-graphics mode ,
[02:02] <szal> jorge_-: you're lucky I'm still there, so get the msg out before I get off my chair ^^
[02:02] <bazhang> Brite, tab to it , and click OK
[02:02] <Brite> let me try
[02:02] <jorge_-> the following error as encountered . you may need to uddate your configuration to solve this . ee no device detected
[02:03] <NeedWirelessHelp> Running sudo dhclient wlan0          Outputs this: No DHCPOFFERS received            Any ideas?
[02:03] <Brite> bazhang god bless you i got it thanks a lot
[02:03] <bazhang> NeedWirelessHelp, associate with the AP yet?
[02:04] <penos> NeedWirelessHelp, do you have working driver for wireless adapter?
[02:04] <Brite> thanks once again
[02:04] <NeedWirelessHelp> bazhang: not sure what that means
[02:04] <NeedWirelessHelp> penos: yes, I have an XP driver installed and verified by ndiswrapper
[02:04] <jxshxx> Is it in Power Management?  Maybe I'm looking in the wrong place? - forgot command to address specific user.  Sorry, please remind me :)
[02:04] <bazhang> NeedWirelessHelp, what does iwconfig show
[02:05] <bazhang> NeedWirelessHelp, pastebin it
[02:06] <NeedWirelessHelp> bazhang: http://pastebin.com/C1tti6it
[02:06] <bungholio> does anyone know what theme the square look is from? - for open box; http://box-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=73768&file1=73768-1.jpg&file2=73768-2.jpg&file3=&name=QuietNight
[02:09]  * szal goes off to bed
[02:10] <bazhang> Access Point: Not-Associated  <---- NeedWirelessHelp
[02:10] <NeedWirelessHelp> bazhang: what does that mean?
[02:10] <bazhang> NeedWirelessHelp, it does not see a point of access, ie a wifi hotspot
[02:11] <fisix> i'm dual booting ubuntu and windows 7. i'd like to encrypt the windows 7 partition with true crypt, but i'm not sure whether it'll overwrite grub. what do?
[02:11] <In-Vent-ive> Hello, can anyone help me?
[02:11] <NeedWirelessHelp> bazhang: not sure how...I am next to it...and other wireless laptops are connected
[02:11] <In-Vent-ive> I wondered if I could install ubuntu from the network ..
[02:12] <billybigrigger> In-Vent-ive, yes you can
[02:12] <NeedWirelessHelp> bazhang: I also do not see the wireless card in my network connections dialog...only an entry for the wired connection
[02:12] <In-Vent-ive> thks 4 answer
[02:12] <In-Vent-ive> Right now I have no CD-ROM but I have a server with ubuntu
[02:12] <bazhang> NeedWirelessHelp, what chipset
[02:12] <billybigrigger> In-Vent-ive, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/Netboot
[02:13] <In-Vent-ive> very goood, thks a lot...
[02:13] <In-Vent-ive> :D :D
[02:13] <NeedWirelessHelp> bazhang: I followed these steps: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/marvell-88w8335-chipset-netgear-wg311-pcicard-driver/
[02:14] <penos> NeedWirelessHelp, is wg311 the name of your driver?
[02:14] <NeedWirelessHelp> penos: yes
[02:15] <penos> NeedWirelessHelp, are you sure the module is loaded? does it turn up when you do lsmod?
[02:16] <NeedWirelessHelp> penos: http://pastebin.com/8RAbTSYL
[02:17] <KPG> Is there a security benefit to using the shred utility to securely wipe a hard drive over simply using the dd command and zero-fillling it or filling it with random data from /dev/random?
[02:18] <penos> NeedWirelessHelp, dude lsmod output has no wg311 listed. that probably means you don't have the driver installed
[02:18] <wildbat> KPG: there is ~ that's y ppl make it
[02:18] <KPG> wildbat: Ok, what specifically is the advantage?
[02:19] <NeedWirelessHelp> penos: http://pastebin.com/aETFjwPK
[02:19] <new2net> Here is a picture/diagram of the setup I am trying to achieve http://tinyurl.com/3ugp4w5 and here is my hardware settings on [BOX 1] in the picture. http://pastebin.com/BCp59dJ7 . The problem is box1 and 2 are not communicating. All i've done so far is put NIC#2 in and plugged the cat5 cable into both.
[02:19] <Cai> hi
[02:19] <Cai> anyone here
[02:19] <bazhang> Cai, yes
[02:19] <Cai> bazhang: how can I support chinese in lxde Ubuntu
[02:20] <Guest40473> Archive Manager gives "bzip2: Data integrity error when decompressing" again while opening this tar
[02:20] <wildbat> KPG:  make it nearly impossible to recover the data ~ where with zeroing there are some hi-tech equipment to recover the data like in the FBI
[02:20] <bazhang> Cai, support? use the kb? read fonts? please clarify
[02:20] <Guest40473> running tar with -vv still shows no error on creation
[02:20] <Guest40473> checking the file with bzip2 -tvv just says "data integrity (CRC) error in data"  on the last part
[02:20] <KPG> wildbat: Ok, thank you for the help.
[02:21] <penos> NeedWirelessHelp, sorry i'm not familiar with ndiswrapper
[02:21] <Guest40473> last file it tried to add was a symlink.
[02:21] <Cai> I could not read chinese
[02:21] <NeedWirelessHelp> penos: that's ok thanks though
[02:21] <Cai> bazhang: when I open a website, wrong code
[02:21] <NeedWirelessHelp> penos: stupid netgear!
[02:21] <penos> NeedWirelessHelp, maybe you need to load the driver...?
[02:21] <b0nghittr> i need to copy my current ubuntu install which is on a bad clicking drive, onto a larger good drive. can i just make the same partitions on the new drive (/, /boot, and swap), and set the /boot patrtition as bootable in fdisk? or will i need to do something special? thanks.
[02:22] <NeedWirelessHelp> penos: thought that's what I did already....maybe I am doing something wrong?
[02:22] <bazhang> Cai, install the necessary language support packages then from the package manager
[02:22] <penos> NeedWirelessHelp, ok.....
[02:22] <lianghai> R
[02:22] <Cai> I dont see there is a package manager
[02:22] <penos> NeedWirelessHelp, i thought ubuntu would set up wireless automatically? no?
[02:22] <fisix> i'm dual booting ubuntu and windows 7. i'd like to encrypt the windows 7 partition with true crypt, but i'm not sure whether it'll overwrite grub. what do?
[02:23] <NeedWirelessHelp> penos: this was an upgrade from 8.04 to 10.04.....guess not
[02:23] <b0nghittr> i will have to manually copy over the files while the drive is still working.
[02:23] <wildbat> b0nghittr: you can simply clone the whole drive, fast and easy ~ hassle free
[02:23] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ibus Cai
[02:23] <urlin2u> b0nghittr, use clonezilla
[02:23] <penos> NeedWirelessHelp, maybe try a different driver?
[02:24] <b0nghittr> okay, thanks
[02:24] <NeedWirelessHelp> penos: maybe
[02:25] <penos> NeedWirelessHelp, or try ubuntu 11.4
[02:25] <Cai> bazhang: I do not have iBUS preference
[02:25] <Cai> bazhang: I have lxde desktop
[02:25] <NeedWirelessHelp> penos: heh, that's an option.
[02:25] <Cai> not gnome
[02:25] <bazhang> Cai, right. did you read the link?
[02:25] <Cai> yeah
[02:26] <Cai> I read it
[02:26] <Cai> bazhang: can i do it from commandline?
[02:26] <pooltable> is there a place to see the new ubuntu snap shot ??
[02:26] <bazhang> Cai, do what
[02:26] <Cai> install iBus
[02:26] <bazhang> Cai, of course
[02:26] <NeedWirelessHelp> penos: thanks again
[02:27] <Cai> how? it is not on this page
[02:27] <penos> NeedWirelessHelp, ok... sorry I don't have experience with ndiswrapper
[02:27] <bazhang> Cai, apt-cache search ibus
[02:27] <b0nghittr> wildbat: what if the drive starts clicking during the imaging?
[02:27] <b0nghittr> will i be able to resume where it left off?
[02:28] <Cai> ok
[02:28] <wildbat> b0nghittr: ddrescue
[02:28] <Cai> i installed ibus
[02:28] <Cai> apt-get install iBus
[02:29] <Cai> bazhang: then what I should do?
[02:29] <buhman> http://paste.pocoo.org/show/469292/ what is going on here?
[02:30] <bazhang> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp Cai please see here
[02:30] <Cai> ok
[02:30] <Cai> thanks
[02:30] <b0nghittr> wildbat: awesome thanks again
[02:30] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1729541 Cai and this
[02:32] <bazhang> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNPYcu008c0   <---- Cai and this
[02:32] <Cai> Bazhang:: i do not have language support in Preference
[02:32] <Cai> bazhang: how to do it in Command Line
[02:32] <Cai> I installed iBus
[02:33] <bazhang> Cai, how about checking all the various links I have given you .... first.
[02:33] <Cai> yeah
[02:33] <Cai> I checked...
[02:33] <bazhang> Cai, I have zero idea how to do it in the command line. please check the links.
[02:33] <Cai> ok thanks
[02:33] <bazhang> Cai, You are welcome.
[02:34] <wildbat> Cai: Language Support is inside Admin.....
[02:34] <new2net> I wish I knew enough about ubuntu to help myself.
[02:35] <penos> new2net, what do you need to accomplish?
[02:36] <new2net> this network setup. http://tinyurl.com/3ugp4w5 where box1 is ubuntu 11.04, box2 can't reach the router.
[02:36] <new2net> i can provide a less short link for the image if you want
[02:36] <Mean_Admin> new2net: that is some awesome artwork
[02:36] <phong_> hi guys
[02:36] <phong_> ;)
[02:37] <phong_> is it a good choice to install ubuntu on SSD or just regular SATA drive?
[02:37] <PMantis> Hi guys, fresh VPS with 10.04.1. I install ufw, and I'm getting errors starting the firewall.  "iptables-restore: line 66 failed" and more. 'ufw reset' didn't help. Ideas?
[02:37] <billybigrigger> new2net, you need to setup a bridged connection between nic1 and 2
[02:37] <new2net> Mean_Admin: I installed uhh.. MyPaint using Ubuntu Software Center, it was a team effort.
[02:37] <phong_> anyone of you give me good suggestion?
[02:37] <phong_> your help is appreciated.
[02:37] <billybigrigger> new2net, you probably need a bing long boring IPTABLES line, :) google is your friend on that one
[02:37] <Mean_Admin> new2net: you have to enable forwarding in ubuntu if you intend Box1 to bridge NIC1 and NIC2
[02:38] <urlin2u> phong_, yeah don't vampire the channel.
[02:38] <phong_> urlin2u, what
[02:38] <wildbat> !ics | new2net: OMG you need to learn some drawing too :>
[02:38] <Mean_Admin> phong_: what do you "good idea"?
[02:38] <pooltable> ok what do i need to do the share info fome ubuntu to windows 7 ??
[02:38] <phong_> Mean_Admin, currently i install windows ...do you think i should have another SSD for ubuntu>?
[02:38] <pooltable> from
[02:39] <Mean_Admin> phong_: you can simply dual-boot on the same drive
[02:39] <Mean_Admin> phong_: unless it's super small
[02:39] <phong_> i have 80GB intel ssd
[02:39] <Mean_Admin> phong_: that is, unless you don't have enough space left on it
[02:39] <phong_> how much space does it needs?
[02:39] <Mean_Admin> phong_: I've lived with 10GB
[02:39] <Mean_Admin> phong_: but probably less
[02:40] <phong_> 10?
[02:40] <phong_> wow
[02:40] <phong_> what if i need more..can it be done adjust the space?
[02:40] <Mean_Admin> phong_: my case was some time ago, I don't know today but I'm assuming 10GB is enough
[02:40] <Mean_Admin> phong_: you can adjust afterwards, yes
[02:40] <phong_> cool
[02:40] <phong_> well how to install it?
[02:41] <Mean_Admin> phong_: although _I_ have never really done it myself
[02:41] <phong_> currently i have windows
[02:41] <new2net> wildbat, billybigrigger, Mean_Admin: thank you. That should be more than enough info to get started.
[02:41] <phong_> do i need to partition somethign?
[02:41] <Mean_Admin> new2net: pleasre, good luck, you may want to try ##networking also, never know..
[02:41] <Mean_Admin> phong_: well, you have to burn the Ubuntu LiveCD
[02:41] <urlin2u> phong_, you were on here days ago talking about ubuntu you know how.
[02:41] <phong_> and will it messup my windows boot?
[02:41] <weecol> dual boot
[02:42] <Mean_Admin> phong_: then you boot off the CD and Ubuntu will guide you with a wizard and ask you how much space you want to give it
[02:42] <ArseneRei> Does anyone use xterm or urxvt on ubuntu? I'm trying to get custom fonts and I haven't found anything on google.
[02:42] <phong_> ok thanks
[02:42] <rww> !xterm
[02:42] <Mean_Admin> phong_: it's visual, no command line
[02:42] <phong_> ok thanks Mean_Admin
[02:42] <PMantis> ufw issue on a VPS:  http://pastebin.com/Dw0Fg606
[02:42] <ktwohig9> phong_: or you can go to http://www.ubuntu.com/download and just use the one that says Run it with Windows
[02:43] <Mean_Admin> phong_: it won't mess up with Windows; when you boot the computer, you'll be asked whether you want to boot Ubuntu or Windows
[02:43] <Mean_Admin> ktwohig9: I hear Wubi si problematic
[02:43] <phong_> ok
[02:43] <ArseneRei> rww: Alright, thanks.
[02:43] <ktwohig9> Mine has been good for over a week now
[02:43] <Mean_Admin> ktwohig9: good :)
[02:43] <dr-willis> wubi can be problematic. phong_  use wuth caution
[02:43] <weecol> any other problems i can solve here
[02:44] <Mean_Admin> phong_: just burn a livecd of Ubuntu
[02:44] <ktwohig9> yeah i can only speak on my experience with it, which is very limited
[02:44] <Mean_Admin> phong_: you can even try it without installing it
[02:44] <dr-willis> id rather use ubuntu in vbox then use wubi
[02:45] <ktwohig9> Only real issue I have come up with is the audio over HDMI not working
[02:45] <urlin2u> ktwohig9, you might want to read what the designer says about what wubi was designed fro. http://howsoftwareisbuilt.com/2009/03/12/interview-with-agostino-russo-wubi-ubuntu/
[02:46] <dr-willis> hdmi audio wiuld not be a wubi specific issue i would think.
[02:46] <ktwohig9> cool thanks
[02:46] <fr0sted> yo, anyone got an idea where the icons are saved for apps within unity ? i want to change them to custom icons you see
[02:47] <Ubuntu1> Hi
[02:47] <ktwohig9> urlin2u: So it's pretty much just a trial launcher
[02:48] <urlin2u> ktwohig9, yeah, can be moved to a partion though.
[02:48] <ktwohig9> Funny, I keep thinking of doing the full install. That kinda seals the deal for me
[02:48] <urlin2u> ktwohig9, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1519354
[02:49] <Ubuntu1> Does anyone have Nvidia Screen flickering issues? on Ubuntu 11.04
[02:49] <mrjbar> what is the Unity 2D shortcut key for doing expose? In Unity 3D it's super + w, but that doesn't work in Unity 2D.
[02:50] <fr0sted> Ubuntu1: no sorry, im using the 185 version driver though, as it works with unity very well
[02:50] <fr0sted> for dualscreen
[02:50] <fr0sted>  anyone got an idea where the icons are saved for apps within unity ?
[02:50] <fr0sted> for the launcher
[02:50] <bazhang> mrjbar, clicking the workspaces?
[02:50] <ktwohig9> urlin2u: Migrating it would still leave it as Wubi, which means it could still be prone to issues right?
[02:50] <sizzers> has anyone here every joined a linux machine to a windows domain?
[02:51] <urlin2u> ktwohig9, no it is a install then.
[02:51] <Kronsby> hello
[02:51] <mrjbar> bazhang, I mean just exposing the windows and not the workspaces
[02:52] <Ubuntu1> Fr0sted, Thanks anyway but Still can't resolve the issue? Whenever the CPU goes to high flickers, but does anyone know how to keep the Nvidia compiz settings to maximum performance
[02:52] <qin> mrjbar: It is compiz feature.
[02:52] <ktwohig9> urlin2u: ah ok then, thanks for the heads up on that
[02:52] <fr0sted> Ubuntu1: ye man you go to the nvidia x server ( settings ) and change it in there, click from quality to performance
[02:52] <urlin2u> ktwohig9, no problem.
[02:52] <bazhang> mrjbar, in unity-2d clicking that shows all the windows presently up
[02:53] <ktwohig9> looks like I know what i am doing in the AM
[02:53] <bazhang> qin, he's talking abou t the feature in unity-2d
[02:53] <Ubuntu1> Fr0sted, Ok, well I have tried that before in Ubuntu 11.04 but doesn't seem to save after rebooting the system is there any chance of fixing that?
[02:54] <fr0sted> Ubuntu1:  yes you need to save the changes tothe conf file, sudo su to gain root privs then write save configuration file
[02:54] <fr0sted> also try removing the driver you have and use the package manager to install 185
[02:54] <fr0sted> worked a treat for me
[02:54] <bazhang> fr0sted, sudo or sudo -i   never sudo su
[02:55] <dr-willis> dont use sudo su.  try sudo -s  ;)
[02:55] <Ubuntu1> Ok
[02:55] <Krawnsbie> why sudo -i?
[02:55] <dr-willis> or -i  ;(
[02:55] <usr13> because it's cheaper
[02:55] <Krawnsbie> fair enough
[02:57] <Mean_Admin> why not   sudo su   ?
[02:57] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo Mean_Admin
[02:58] <usr13> because it's cheaper - fewer key stokes - less typing - it's the recommended method  ;)
[02:58] <Krawnsbie> it is the same amount of keystrokes...
[02:58] <Khisanth> and one of them is the same :)
[02:58] <usr13> fewer pixels
[02:59] <Krawnsbie> hahaha not my pixels!
[02:59] <Mean_Admin> bazhang: reading a little of that and the manpage, Im not sure why you'd use sudo -i besides for the environment variables
[03:00] <usr13> Well never mind.  sudo su - root
[03:00] <Krawnsbie> the only thing I can think of is to stay in the habit of using that
[03:00] <Krawnsbie> it is good to know both
[03:00] <usr13> From now on that is the recommended method.  Ok?
[03:00] <bazhang> usr13, no stop that
[03:01] <Krawnsbie> yes massa
[03:01] <usr13> bazhang: So what are we?  A bunch of sea-lawyers?
[03:01] <ktwohig9> so pretty much someone like myself with little experience in linux should never sudo su?
[03:02] <Mean_Admin> ktwohig9: the advice I was given is just use 'sudo' and not keep superpowers
[03:02] <bazhang> ktwohig9, the ubuntu method is sudo, yes.
[03:02] <dr-willis> ktwohig9:  correct
[03:02] <ktwohig9> ok, I will remember that. thanks folks
[03:02] <Krawnsbie> is this a place to ask questions with problems we have or am i going to be yelled at saying this is not google
[03:02] <usr13> ktwohig9: Correct.  It is a dangerous command that should be  used with caution.
[03:02] <bazhang> Krawnsbie, this is the very place
[03:02] <Mean_Admin> Krawnsbie: try
[03:03] <mukti> How hot is too hot for a laptop CPU? I just ran acpi -V and saw my CPU was running at 82 degrees C...
[03:03] <wildbat> mukti: that's way tooo hot
[03:03] <ktwohig9> too hot
[03:03] <Mean_Admin> mukti: start blowing on it
[03:03] <rww> no it isn't :\
[03:03] <Krawnsbie> Codeblocks keeps saying that I do not have the permission to run my code How do I edit permissions
[03:03] <wildbat> mukti CPU > 70C is unacceptable.
[03:04] <wildbat> mukti: 75C is the highest it should ever be .
[03:04] <rww> wildbat: depends what precisely it's measuring
[03:04] <rww> e.g. on my desktop, there are two sets of sensors. one should be < 72, the other should be < 100
[03:04] <MonkeyDust> 46°C here
[03:04] <rww> but anyway, you should be using lm-sensors :\
[03:04] <wildbat> rww: of coz, assuming the sensor is working ;p
[03:04] <ktwohig9> mukti - is that idle or under load?
[03:04] <mukti> rww: how do I know what censors I'm runing?
[03:05] <mukti> ktwohig9: I just started running skype
[03:05] <rww> !lm-sensors
[03:05] <rww> mukti: use that instead, it's more informative ^
[03:08] <Krawnsbie> Codeblocks keeps saying that I do not have the permission to run my code How do I edit permissions
[03:08] <cab938_dt> I want to boot to a usb key, but I would prefer if the key was not fat32, suggestions?
[03:09] <debugnet> Krawnsbie: chmod command. if you use the GUI, right click and properties.
[03:09] <Krawnsbie> Thanks :D
[03:09] <cab938_dt> The startup disk creator eats whatever is there and drops as fat32, so I get max 4gb files
[03:09] <urlin2u> cab938_dt, boot what?
[03:09] <cab938_dt> Just the 1104 startup disk
[03:10] <cab938_dt> so I can have a casper environment and run from machine to machine with it
[03:10] <cab938_dt> It's a 16gb key I'm using
[03:10] <urlin2u> cab938_dt, do a full install.
[03:10] <jA_cOp> Where is librt located? What is typically linked when I pass -lrt to gcc?
[03:11] <cab938_dt> So I did that, and first I partitioned the key into two disks, an ext3 and a ntfs, thinking "haha, I am so smart, now I can use part of the key in windows too"
[03:11] <cab938_dt> but my laptop, which would boot from the startup disk created key, would not boot from this one
[03:11] <cab938_dt> and windows had no idea what the key was
[03:11] <cab938_dt> don't know if the arrangement of partitions mattered, the ext3 one was first
[03:11] <urlin2u> cab938_dt, ypou put the ntfs at the front of the thumb.
[03:12] <cab938_dt> I didn't, do I need to?
[03:12] <mukti> rww: this is the output from running "sensors" http://paste.ubuntu.com/680970/
[03:12] <cab938_dt> ubuntu can see them both, fwiw
[03:12] <urlin2u> cab938_dt, yes and just do a full install the casper will fill up, and is pretty much impossible to clean.
[03:12] <jA_cOp> "ls /lib /usr/lib /usr/lib32 | grep rt" doesn't yield any form of librt for me :(
[03:12] <new2net> billybigrigger: I'm having trouble getting from seeing the NIC in the output of new2net@box2~: lshw to having the NIC get called eth1 in ifconfig ~_~
[03:13] <rww> mukti: I don't have WWW access right now, sorry. Perhaps someone else can help.
[03:13] <cab938_dt> urist, so ntfs in the first location, then a full install on the ntfs drive?  or onto the ext3 in the second partition?
[03:14] <urlin2u> cab938_dt, ntfs first, ubuntu will only install to a ext type use ext4
[03:14] <mukti> rww: The fan is running at 3515 RPM and the two adapter sensors are running at 70 and 78 degrees C
[03:14] <Krawnsbie> where is permissions located?
[03:14] <cab938_dt> urlin2u, ok, is there anything special i need to do to make sure i can boot from the ext part?  I don't understand why the laptop won't boot from it right now
[03:15] <ktwohig9> mukti: my opinion is all 3 temps are too high. Is there onyl 1 fan in that case?
[03:15] <Surlent777> hi everyone; I'm finding that all of a sudden my laptop's microphone isn't being detected by KDE or by the GNOME Control Centre, yet it worked previously. The only major thing I can recall changing is doing a BIOS upgrade whilst maintaining the Windows 7 install on the other partition, but the microphone works as expected there. Curiously, it does seem to show up in alsamixer, but gnome-sound-recorder doesn't recognize it. Any ideas?
[03:16] <dorigentoo> hi
[03:16] <mukti> ktwohig9: I believe so, its a (1 week old) Thinkpad T420
[03:17] <dorigentoo> Does someone know how to do a grep regex which will exclude all lines having a 0 ?
[03:17] <urlin2u> cab938_dt, you have to install the grub bootloader to  the thumb, use the something else option in the install where asked where the install goes, there is a dropdown there to choose where grub goes, to the thumbs mbnr which has no partition numbers for example sdb.
[03:17] <urlin2u> mbr
[03:17] <ktwohig9> mukti: ah ok it's a laptop. If it were me, i would call the place you bought it from and demand a replacement
[03:17] <cab938_dt> urlin2u, ok, I'll give it a wing
[03:17] <debugnet> dorigentoo: use the -v option in any grep command to exlude matches.
[03:17] <cab938_dt> tyvm
[03:17] <mukti> ktwohig9: really?
[03:18] <ktwohig9> my sony F series I7 runs max under load 62C
[03:18] <dorigentoo> thx debugnet :)
[03:19] <ktwohig9> Mukti: yep, otherwise you will definately need to start thinking of some cooling solutions for it
[03:19] <ktwohig9> but to me, right out of the box it should not go that high
[03:19] <debugnet> dorigentoo: np
[03:19] <mukti> ktwohig9: it doesn't usually, I think it might have been skype (beta)
[03:19] <emgels> hola a todos
[03:20] <bazhang> !es | emgels
[03:20] <emgels> quien me puede a alludar con mi compiz
[03:20] <mukti> ktwohig9: usually its cool and quiet; but when I ran skype, it got extremely hot, and I could hear the fan blowing
[03:20] <ktwohig9> mukti: whne you got those readings you posted was it running skype still?
[03:20] <mukti> yes
[03:20] <splitpaw-mobile> hi
[03:20] <bazhang> emgels, english , #compiz
[03:20] <mukti> i just closed it
[03:20] <emgels> ok
[03:20] <ktwohig9> ok run the test again
[03:21] <mukti> 72 and 79
[03:21] <dorigentoo> debugnet, actually my grep is really weird :(  I wanted to search for the string "font-family" in all files in my dir (which I normally do with grep -r "font-family" *). But here, it returned every files, even those which don't contain the string. I tried "grep -cr "font-family" *|egrep -v 0" to count the number of occurences, and I get a bunch of results, but still if I vim into on of the files and search for font-family, I can't find it. D
[03:21] <dorigentoo> id you ever see this problem before ?
[03:21] <mukti> ktwohig9: hold on, I'll be right back
[03:21] <ktwohig9> then it isnt skype
[03:22] <ktwohig9> ok
[03:22] <new2net> My 2nd network card is not detected by "lshw -c net", but it has power.... what?!?
[03:22] <debugnet> dorigentoo: grep -iR 'font-family' .
[03:23] <dorigentoo> erf it works
[03:23] <debugnet> dorigentoo: or maybe grep -iR 'font*.family' . where . is the directory you are in so change as necessary
[03:24] <dorigentoo> I'll read the doc trying to figure out why this i option is mandatory. Thank you very much, you're very helpful
[03:25] <debugnet> dorigentoo: i option is for case INsensitive so that files with Caps at the beginning of words are included as well
[03:25] <debugnet> dorigentoo: btw, it was the cap R option that does 'recursive' directory searches
[03:25] <dorigentoo> yes I was wrong with the lowercase one
[03:26] <dorigentoo> ok thanks
[03:27] <TheNerevar> How do I install a serial mouse in ubuntu?
[03:28] <urlin2u> TheNerevar, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[03:29] <TheNerevar> urlin2u: thank you
[03:29] <Surlent777> okay, turns out that changing the Audio Profile in GNOME Contrl Centre from Audio Output Analog to Analog 4.0 + Input was enough to do the trick. No idea how that got switched around, but whatever.
[03:29] <Surlent777> s/Contrl/Control
[03:29] <Surlent777> thanks anyway
[03:30] <urlin2u> TheNerevar, don't thanl me to soon eh.
[03:32] <Phong_> i can't install ubuntu why?
[03:32] <Phong_> it said something about busybox
[03:32] <Phong_> then type 'help' for help
[03:32] <Phong_> something wrong with ubuntu?
[03:33] <Hypershock> what method did you use to install ubuntu? which version? which medium?
[03:34] <Phong_> 11.04
[03:34] <Phong_> x64 bit
[03:34] <Phong_> weird
[03:34] <Phong_> will it handle by i7 2600k?
[03:34] <Josesordo> hello all, who knows a lot of Web programming and security (specially in wordpress) ??
[03:35] <rww> Josesordo: you may find #wordpress helpful
[03:35] <Hypershock> Phong_, what are you machines specs?
[03:35] <urlin2u> !ask | Josesordo
[03:35] <Phong_> Hypershock, i7 2600k 12RAM
[03:35] <Phong_> 80GB SSD intel
[03:35] <Josesordo> rww, thanks =)
[03:36] <Hypershock> are you installing from a dvd or a bootable usb?
[03:36] <lo-fi_> so when running wpa_supplicant it says no wpa skip, but there is a wpa, and ive set the wep key in the config
[03:36] <Phong_> Hypershock, CD or DVD
[03:36] <lo-fi_> any ideas?
[03:36] <decio> I tried to do a stupid thing. I tried to install a liveCD in a SD Card and now I can't format the volume or delete the files in it. Can someone help me formating the volume, is it anyway to force it?
[03:37] <Hypershock> ok, so you mean you tried both then
[03:37] <Phong_> yes
[03:37] <mukti> okay, sorry I forgot who I was talking too a few minutes ago, but I'm back
[03:37] <ktwohig9> mukti: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1748475
[03:37] <Hypershock> ok, now try the one you don't want to try, the standard 32bit one, it'll install a pae kernel so you won't loose access to your ram
[03:38] <wildbat> Q: ~ is there something that can make SSD and HHD to work together as if it is a single hybird drive :>
[03:38] <Hypershock> in fact it'll run better too as x64 is still experimental
[03:38] <Phong_> Hypershock, come on man, i want x64
[03:38] <Phong_> x64 will handle more RAM
[03:38] <Polah> Hypershock: PAE isn't a very good substitude for 64-bit.
[03:38] <Polah> Phong_: What problems are you having?
[03:39] <Phong_> Polah, i can't install ubuntu x64 11.04
[03:39] <decio> without 64 bit each app can only access 4GB of RAM
[03:39] <Polah> Phong_: Yes but why not? What happens when you try?
[03:39] <Phong_> when boot, ...and later on....i got busybox 1.7....
[03:39] <lo-fi_> is there anyone who can help me with spa_supplicant?
[03:39] <lo-fi_> wpa_supplicant*
[03:39] <Phong_> then next line is:   type 'help' bla bla
[03:39] <debugnet> wildbat: RAID is probably what you are going to want but it will probably be difficult as hell to setup since you will have to do software RAID instead of hardware RAID
[03:39] <Phong_> Polah, then it said, can't find live cd
[03:39] <Phong_> information
[03:40] <decio> Phong, how many times did you try to install it?
[03:40] <Polah> decio: 3.2GB of RAM is all the system can use, 4 billion or so address spaces. PAE gives 64GB and 64-bit is 16EB or some other huge number
[03:40] <Polah> Phong_: Have you checked the md5sum of the ISO you have, and burned the disc at a slow speed then verified to make sure it's a proper burn?
[03:41] <TheNerevar> urlin2u: It works thank you very much.
[03:41] <mukti> ktwohig9: post #3 talks about how to get thinkfan working, but I'm not sure how to add kernel modules
[03:41] <Phong_> ok i'll try that
[03:41] <urlin2u> TheNerevar, cool. :D
[03:41] <Polah> !md5sum | Phong_
[03:41] <wildbat> debugent, i doubt it ~ how md RAID put frequently use data to SSD only , and have the size of the HDD .
[03:42] <Polah> Phong_: md5sum your ISO and find the matching hash on those pages, if it doesn't match then your ISO is corrupt or incomplete and you'll have to redownload and reburn it. If it does match, boot the LiveCD, hold shift during boot and then select "Verify disc integrity" (or something along those lines) from the menu it gives you
[03:42] <mukti> ktwohig9: also, the sensors are currently at 46 and 45 degrees celcius
[03:42] <decio> You have to do md5sum to check if the files on you liveCD are the correct ones.
[03:42] <debugnet> wildbat: current technology doesn't have anything designed around that although you could mount the two drives in such a way that certain files are on one and others are on the SSD that are usually read-only.
[03:43] <decio> I tried to do a stupid thing. I tried to install a liveCD in a SD Card and now I can't format the volume or delete the files in it. Can someone help me formating the volume, is it anyway to force it?
[03:43] <penos> decio, hahaha
[03:43] <TheNerevar> decio: Do you have something like a Palm or a phone or something along those lines to put it in?
[03:43] <debugnet> wildbat: i would have the SSD as the boot drive and mount theh normal HD to another folder and have sim links to all the folders that will keep the data you don't want on the SSD on the normal drive
[03:43] <Polah> decio: SD cards have the little switches that stop writing to them when they're enabled? Check the switch is in the unlocked position.
[03:44] <ktwohig9> Mukti: Ok well the temps sound MUCH better. As far as installing kernal modules, that is beyond me
[03:45] <mukti> ktwohig9: okay, thanks
[03:45] <ktwohig9> no probelm and good luck
[03:45] <decio> Polah, OMG, i didn't remember!!! lol. I'm a complete noob.
[03:45] <decio> Fc*!!!!!!!
[03:46] <decio> ok, you guys can laugh,,,, you probably are
[03:47] <urlin2u> decio, we only laugh in your general direction. :D
[03:47] <wildbat> debugnet: i know :) ~ but a feature nice to have ~ and so motherboard start offer similar feature but Win's drive only
[03:47] <wildbat> s/so/some
[03:47] <Datz> hi, I was wondering if there is a problem with teh applet invest. Whenever I try to add it to the gnome panel, nothing happens
[03:47] <decio> urlin2u, seriously, I am so tired that I didn't even think on that
[03:48] <urlin2u> decio, it happens.
[03:48] <Datz> Does anyone else use the invest appelt, or could someone try and load it to see what happens?
[03:48] <Datz> applet*
[03:49] <decio> urlin2u, yeah but, I didn't figure it out then, I google it (didn't find anything) and then I did go to a IRC channel to remember me that SD cards lave to be unlocked in order to change their content.... I need to sleep
[03:50] <decio> have*
[03:50] <debugnet> wildbat: that would be nice...
[03:51] <decio> what do you guys think of the idea of the menu on ubuntu 11.10 be on the dock?
[03:52] <rww> decio: #ubuntu+1 for oneiric discussion, please :)
[03:52] <wildbat> debugnet: that why i am asking... :) a small 32GB SSD can give a 5400rpm  drive a huge speed up and spin down more often :> fast and green :>
[03:53] <debugnet> wildbat: got a scenario that you're thinking of that could give me an idea of what you are trying to accomplish and maybe i could 'spin it'?
[03:55] <wildbat> debugnet: hehe why not :>
[03:58] <lo-fi_> so im runnign wpa_supplicant and its on scan update 40, is this normal?
[03:59] <MrUbiquitous> Where can I get questions answered as a noob about Ubuntu?
[03:59] <bazhang> MrUbiquitous, here
[03:59] <MrUbiquitous> Cool.
[04:00] <MrUbiquitous> I have a quick question. Maybe this cannot be answered here, I was banned from the Ubuntu forums 15pts for supposed spam. I have no idea why. Does this sometimes happen by mistake? I only made one post and it was a help question.
[04:00] <bazhang> MrUbiquitous, try #ubuntuforums perhaps
[04:01] <MrUbiquitous> thx!
[04:01] <stupididot> i can haz helps?
[04:01] <bazhang> stupididot, ask first
[04:01] <stupididot> my sound isn't working, just installed ubuntu 11.
[04:03] <stupididot> i think i haz realtek audio. that's what i had on teh windoez.
[04:03] <Singham> hi...till 10.04,the videos which I used to watch on youtube.com were saved in tmp folder.In 10.10 they arent stored there..where are they stored ?
[04:04] <urlin2u> Singham, not sure, but the firefox add-on video downloadhelper will take care of it.
[04:05] <urlin2u> or minitube
[04:05] <stupididot> there are some sites that convert youtube to flv or avi online too, haven't checked them out in a while though.
[04:06] <urlin2u> the downloadhelper converts on the fly stupididot
[04:06] <stupididot> oh.
[04:07] <stupididot> so the addon does it itself?
[04:07] <stupididot> or does it use a service?
[04:07] <urlin2u> stupididot, you can set it up to not sure which formats though.
[04:07] <debugnet> Singham: are you using firefox? if so you can check the preferences to see what the download folder is set to.
[04:07] <bazhang> urlin2u, mp4
[04:07] <luigi> I'm not sure if this is a good place to ask, but I'm using icecast on my Ubuntu server and I'm having some major streaming issues when streaming from it.
[04:08] <urlin2u> bazhang, that makes sense.
 : What to check in preferences ?
[04:09] <luigi> There's a delay of three seconds or so in between songs that crossfade gracefully, which I would expect from a network stream, but when I skip a track or seek in a song, the stream just stops.
[04:09] <luigi> I'm running mpd as the backend.
[04:09] <stupididot> its 5am, i should proberbly go to bed. does anyone know how i can fix mah audios?
[04:10] <luigi> stupididot: sudo lspci -v and paste output to a pastebin
[04:10] <luigi> That way we'll know your exact audio card.
[04:11] <stupididot> where do i paste that? im such a noob :(
[04:11] <Morgz> stupididot - can use pastie.org
[04:11] <debugnet> Singham: save files to box should have a folder input there, you can usually check the check box next to it and input a folder of your choice then set it to manual so it always asks where to save (obviously that is your option). btw, what are you using to save youtube videos? firefox usually have a temp folder in your home~/.mozilla/firefox/????????.default/Cache folder where the ?'s are random.
[04:12] <Morgz> stupididot or pastebin.com as suggested
[04:15] <stupididot> I don't get it, do i paste "sudo lspci -v" in the terminal. sorry for asking idiotic questions.
[04:15] <stupididot> it does not work.
[04:16] <debugnet> stupididot: middle mouse to paste?
[04:16] <Singham> debugnet : Thanks but the video I just watched is not playing when I tried to play it from the .default folder..
[04:17] <debugnet> Singham: not sure if i answered your question...welcome though.
[04:17] <StanleyPTP> Anyone can help me with Impress sound effects problem in Ubuntu. It only happens in Ubuntu.
[04:17] <stupididot> oh it works, heres what it gaves to me. http://pastie.org/2474434
 :Thanks dude..its working.....:)
[04:19] <luigi> stupididot: http://hardc0l2e.wordpress.com/2011/04/25/vt1708a-workaround-for-ubuntu-10-10/
[04:19] <zhenzhen> ~~~
[04:20] <luigi> This applies to you, stupididot, and may help. It just involves adding a harmless (but perhaps helpful!) parameter to the boot line. You'll want to use gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub however, since vi has only two modes: beep and break everything
[04:20] <miraenvigado> hello everyone
[04:21] <stupididot> uuuh... :o .. this is like my second time using ubuntu, didn't get half of that. lol
[04:21] <luigi> stupididot: gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub in the command line
[04:21] <miraenvigado> Could someone give me a hand?
[04:21] <StanleyPTP> Anyone has a sound problem with Impress and Ubuntu?
[04:21] <debugnet> miraenvigado: whatcha got?
[04:22] <luigi> stupididot: Modify the file so that this line looks like this: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=”quiet splash pci=use_crs”
[04:22] <luigi> stupididot: You're adding the pci=use_crs bit to what's already there.
[04:23] <luigi> stupididot: Then save the file (Ctrl+S) and quit the program (Alt+F4). Paste "sudo update-grub" into the terminal, and then reboot.
[04:23] <luigi> With any luck, you'll be hearing sounds in no time
[04:23] <wildbat> what pci=use_crs do ?
[04:24] <StanleyPTP> Combination of Impress + Ubuntu 10.10/11.04 = sound effects problem. Any one can help?
[04:24] <luigi> wildbat: It seems to solve some bug related to VIA1708/A audio chipsets.
[04:25] <miraenvigado> I've got a problem with my acer travelmate 2200
[04:25] <almoxarife> luigi: you put the "?" instead of double quote? or I am seeing something
[04:25] <miraenvigado> who can give me a hand?
[04:25] <stupididot> do i restart now?
[04:25] <bazhang> miraenvigado, ask a real question
[04:25] <stupididot> i think its changed.
[04:26] <luigi> almoxarife: You might be seeing things...
[04:26] <luigi> stupididot: You ran sudo update-grub?
[04:26] <luigi> If so, reboot.
[04:26] <jewles> anyone familure with landscape? curious to see if anyone uses it / like it/ finds it useful waste etc...
[04:26] <luigi> jewles: I consider it useless, to be honest. But I only have two Ubuntu servers to manage.
[04:26] <miraenvigado> I install xubuntu 10.10 in a acer travelmate 2200, but i can not install the wireless driver
[04:27] <luigi> Yet when you're on a large scale, you just get AC2...
[04:27] <bazhang> miraenvigado, whats the chipset
[04:27] <jewles> i have 8
[04:27] <luigi> What do you need it for?
[04:27] <miraenvigado> i don't know
[04:27] <jewles> i don't know if I do...
[04:27] <luigi> miraenvigado: sudo lspci -v
[04:27] <jewles> i did a demo, and it seem useless
[04:27] <jewles> but i figured maybe i did something wrong
[04:27] <stupididot> gonna reboot now. wish me luck. brb
[04:27] <luigi> miraenvigado: Copy and paste the output into pastie.org and give us the link
[04:28] <StanleyPTP> Ubuntu 10.10 and Ubuntu 11.04 pulse audio system seems to play sound from Impress too fast (too short) making the sound effect sounded very funny. Anyone can help?
[04:28] <miraenvigado> 02:03.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10)
[04:28] <miraenvigado> 	Subsystem: Acer Incorporated [ALI] Device 0036
[04:28] <miraenvigado> 	Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 128, IRQ 19
[04:28] <miraenvigado> 	I/O ports at a000 [size=256]
[04:28] <miraenvigado> 	Memory at f4200c00 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=256]
[04:28] <miraenvigado> 	Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2
[04:28] <FloodBot1> miraenvigado: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:28] <luigi> miraenvigado: Or, since you have no internet on the computer, put it in a text file on a flash drive, and then open it on a computer with internet.
[04:28] <miraenvigado> 	Kernel driver in use: 8139too
[04:29] <luigi> miraenvigado: You don't paste ~2 lines into the channel.
[04:29] <luigi> Now you've been muted, and only an op can help you.
[04:29] <luigi> StanleyPTP: Sounds like a sampling rate error.
[04:29] <miraenvigado> sorry, what should i do?
[04:30] <luigi> Make sure everything is set to 44.1 kHz in impulse.
[04:30] <luigi> miraenvigado: Use paste.ubuntu.com to paste the output and give us the link
[04:32] <miraenvigado> http://paste.ubuntu.com/680994/
[04:32] <StanleyPTP> luigi: The funny thing is when there a background sound, and animation, thus slowing the system down. The sound effect sound much better.
[04:33] <StanleyPTP> luigi: the "sound funny", I mean the sound is cut off too early before it has the time to make a full sound
[04:33] <luigi> StanleyPTP: So you'd hear 1 second of a 2 second sound, you mean?
[04:33] <luigi> Like that?
[04:33] <luigi> Not a sound that is too high or too low in pitch than what you want?
[04:34] <StanleyPTP> luigi:yes, i think it is miliseconds rather than a second
[04:34] <miraenvigado> http://paste.ubuntu.com/680994/
[04:34] <StanleyPTP> luigi: it sound like normal but cut off too soon.
[04:35] <luigi> StanleyPTP: Are you using digital audio? Or is it using a normal 3.5 mm jack to output sound to speakers?
[04:35] <StanleyPTP> luigi: I'm using the normal analogue output. The green one.
[04:35] <StanleyPTP> luigi: fyi, i tried using many different computers. it is the same
[04:36] <jewles> if i wanted to allow people to run ircd on ubuntu server... how can i restirct them to one IP? without using jails
[04:36] <luigi> StanleyPTP: It's an issue with the software then, ofc. Is it a multi-platform program? Can you try it on Windows?
[04:36] <usr13> miraenvigado: Is this a laptop?
[04:36] <luigi> jewles: One IP outbound or inbound?
[04:36] <lo-fi_> hey so ive been having trouble with wpa_supplicant all day today, i've made a forum post explaining hopefuly enough of my problem, would anyone mind taking a look at it?
[04:37] <StanleyPTP> luigi: Impress (openoffice 3.3) make proper sound on Windows after re-path of sound effect.
[04:37] <jewles> only inbound
[04:37] <luigi> StanleyPTP: Does it always make proper sound?
[04:37] <jewles> outbound traffic shouldn't matter
[04:37] <StanleyPTP> luigi: the reason I ask in here is that I think it has something to do with ubuntu sound system - pulse audio
[04:37] <usr13> miraenvigado: Your WiFi card must be  RTL-8139  (although it's not identified as such).  Is that it?  What does  iwconfig  say?
[04:38] <luigi> jewles: You won't be able to do it easily, then. Ask in ##networking if you'd like someone with more experience in that area to help you out.
[04:38] <luigi> StanleyPTP: PulseAudio is quite terrible sometimes. I'm not a big fan of it.
[04:38] <jewles> i suppose if i owned... 100.10.1.2 100.10.1.3 100.10.1.4... i wouldn't want someone putting listen *:6667; in their config and bind all IPs
[04:39] <luigi> So yes, it is something to do with pulseaudio if it works in windows and the problem bridges multiple computers.
[04:39] <luigi> StanleyPTP: Submit a bug report.
[04:39] <jewles> i will ask
[04:39] <luigi> Oh wait
[04:39] <usr13> luigi: Sometimes it works great, sometimes not so great.
[04:39] <luigi> jewles: Here's an idea. Force the ircds to be run on localhost only, and force the users to use ssh tunnels to connect to it.
[04:40] <usr13> luigi: But you can just un-install it.
[04:40] <luigi> jewles: Limit ssh to only one remote session at a time, problem solved.
[04:40] <StanleyPTP> luigi: looking at the sound preference, applications tab, it displayed the background sound (continuous) then the sound effect which appears and disappear very fast.
[04:40] <luigi> usr13: I'm planning on switching to OSS sometime soon myself.
[04:40] <miraenvigado> http://paste.ubuntu.com/680999/
[04:40] <luigi> StanleyPTP: Submit a bug report.
[04:40] <usr13> luigi: Just uninstall pulseaudio
[04:40] <luigi> usr13: I'm not on ubuntu.
[04:41] <miraenvigado> iwconfig said
[04:41] <usr13> o
[04:41] <jewles> if they are running an ircd it runs in the background
[04:41] <luigi> Guest33138: Good job.
[04:41] <luigi> Nope.
[04:41] <StanleyPTP> luigi: then what should I use for the sound server?
[04:41]  * FloodBot5 Sets mode to +n
[04:41] <luigi> jewles: Yes, but it can still be restricted to localhost.
[04:41] <usr13> miraenvigado: Are you using 11.04 ?
[04:41] <almoxarife> miraenvigado: see http://forum.ubuntuusers.de/topic/ipn2220-inprocomm-%3A/ <-- yes its in german, chrome will translate, you seem to have a real lemon of a wifi card
[04:42] <miraenvigado> no 10.04 xubuntu
[04:42] <rww> FloodBot5: Imitating bots is a good way to get removed from the channel. I strongly recommend not doing it.
[04:42] <luigi> StanleyPTP: ALSA works.
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[04:43] <stupididiot> just came back to say thanks for the advice. it worked.
[04:43] <stupididiot> <3
[04:43] <FloodBot5> rww but I am not a bot..
[04:43] <rww> FloodBot5: you should probably pick a nick that doesn't imitate our bots', then
[04:43] <luigi> FloodBot5: Your nick is that because you want to pretend that you are related to FloodBot1, 2, 3, etc.
[04:43] <StanleyPTP> luigi: will openoffice/libreoffice work with ALSA?
[04:44] <luigi> StanleyPTP: Almost everything will work with ALSA.
[04:44] <stupididiot> anyway, its getting close to 6am now. i'm gonna get some zzz's. continue being awesome guys, even to noobs like me. :)
[04:44] <stupididiot> peace out.
[04:44] <luigi> StanleyPTP: Just uninstall pulseaudio, and you'll be using ALSA. At least I'm pretty sure
[04:44] <Hello> is it ok ?
[04:45] <StanleyPTP> luigi: will uninstalling pulseaudio break my Ubuntu?
[04:45] <bazhang> Hello, support question?
[04:45] <lo-fi_> is there anyone who can help me with wpa_supplicant?
[04:45] <luigi> StanleyPTP: No.
[04:45] <luigi> PulseAudio is a gnome-thing that lets users set volume levels independently for each program.
[04:45] <luigi> It does other things too, but that's one of the big things.
[04:46] <StanleyPTP> luigi: will it be possible to just modify the openoffice/libreoffice to use ALSA instead of the default sound server?
[04:46] <luigi> No.
[04:46] <Polah> luigi: It's not a gnome-thing. It's a sound server for handling input/output, generally on top of ALSA
[04:46] <luigi> Polah: It's pulled in by gnome though.
[04:46] <miraenvigado> sorry, but i didn't find an answer
[04:47] <luigi> Polah: Vanilla gnome is packaged with pulse, last I checked. ;)
[04:47] <luigi> KDE? Not so much.
[04:47] <Polah> luigi: That doesn't make it a gnome thing though, it might come with it but it is standalone.
[04:47] <CoverSlide> doesn't kde have some sound manager thingy?
[04:47] <almoxarife> from my own experience, trying to remove puseaudio cripples ubuntu, unless you like to listen to sound from a terminal
[04:48] <usr13> miraenvigado: is it a laptop?
[04:48] <Polah> StanleyPTP, you'll still get sound I believe but you won't have volume control and suchlike after removing it until you get something else
[04:48] <luigi> Polah: Mentioning how it's a sound server that each program wanting to output sound needs to connect to give out anything would only confuse someone who is trying to make a decision here. I know what it is and does.
[04:48] <miraenvigado> yes it is
[04:48] <usr13> miraenvigado: Check to see if a switch is toggled off.
[04:48] <StanleyPTP> almoxarife: yikes, thank for the head up. I heard it from some where before but unser
[04:48] <luigi> Polah: People here think in terms of DEs, not WMs and standalone apps.
[04:49] <miraenvigado> I turn on already
[04:49] <usr13> miraenvigado: or check the BIOS to see if it is turned off.
[04:49] <miraenvigado> what else
[04:49] <miraenvigado> ok
[04:49] <usr13> miraenvigado: Well, it is more than likely rtl8139   lsmod
[04:49] <miraenvigado> but i've got to reset the laptop
[04:50] <usr13> miraenvigado: It could very well be turned off in the bios
[04:50] <almoxarife> miraenvigado: http://pastebin.com/TquLgJ1p
[04:51] <almoxarife> miraenvigado: INPROCOMM IPN 2220 Wireless <-- your wireless
[04:51] <Datz> hi, I was wondering if there is a problem with teh applet invest. Whenever I try to add it to the gnome panel, nothing happens.
[04:51] <StanleyPTP> Ubuntu generally sound ok, multiple apps using the sound at the same time seem to work ok. Just this OpenOffice/libreoffice sound effects thing. It plays video and background sound together without a glitch.
[04:51] <usr13> miraenvigado:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM/Networking
[04:52] <usr13> I've got to turn in for the night. It's been real...
[04:53] <StanleyPTP> Well I think I am bump
[04:54] <indra> tezt
[04:59] <StanleyPTP> I have submitted a bug report to openoffice, but it has been so long.
[05:00] <Polah> StanleyPTP: The same problem occurs in Libreoffice?
[05:00] <StanleyPTP> Since only OpenOffice Impress has this problem
[05:00] <StanleyPTP> yes
[05:00] <StanleyPTP> Polah: yes
[05:01] <Polah> StanleyPTP: Wait what, OpenOffice Impress has the problem but you get it in Libreoffice? They're different office suites...
[05:01] <StanleyPTP> I am using both 10.10 and 11.04
[05:01] <CoverSlide> Libreoffice is a fork of Openoffice
[05:01] <StanleyPTP> one came with openoffice the other libreoffice
[05:02] <StanleyPTP> both has the same problem
[05:02] <StanleyPTP> I am using 10.10 on 2 computers and 11.04 on 2 others computers
[05:03] <StanleyPTP> I only tried Windows Openoffice via Vbox.
[05:04] <StanleyPTP> In Vbox sound come out prefect  every time. But of course, it need re-path, different filesystem.
[05:06] <StanleyPTP> The problem might be how OpenOffice/LibreOffice handled the sound effect thingy or PulseAudio cannot handle the sound request fast enough.
[05:07] <StanleyPTP> That the reason I do not know where to ask for help Ubuntu or OpenOffice. And to make it complicated LibreOffice.
[05:08] <aaas> is there a good program that will sync files between windows and linux say every night... i only need one-way sync?  rsync?
[05:09] <michal_sz> do you want use it on desktop or on a server ?
[05:09] <aaas> michal_sz me?  from desktop to server
[05:10] <CoverSlide> wsync which way?
[05:10] <aaas> CoverSlide: i want to sync from windows desktop to ubuntu server
[05:11] <CoverSlide> i'd use cygwin + rsync on the windows computer
[05:11] <CoverSlide> but that's just me
[05:12] <SIFTU> aaas: you have so many options.. I would probably create a samba share on the linux box and mount it from windows.. then use whatever to copy the deltas
[05:12] <aaas> CoverSlide why not rsync from ubuntu
[05:12] <__jon> hi all. i'm connected to internet directly by a adsl modem. Need i to set a firewall ?
[05:12] <CoverSlide> well either way would work i guess
[05:12] <aaas> SIFTU yes but what to copy
[05:13] <aaas> SIFTU is rsync still the prefered?
[05:13] <SIFTU> aaas: well you could use any windows command that way.. robocopy, xcopy, whatever
[05:13] <michal_sz> aaas: have tried http://www.itefix.no/i2/node/10650 ?
[05:13] <aaas> SIFTU I would rather use the server to grab... so Im looking for an ubuntu solution i guess
[05:15] <Hiro2> could someone help me remove grub and edit windows boot file so that it'll default to booting into windows?
[05:15] <SIFTU> aaas: that will work also.. just personal preference I try not to install extra stuff on workstations (like cygwin etc).. and I keep the shares on the server
[05:15] <CoverSlide> cron + rsync
[05:16] <CoverSlide> you can just have grub boot to windows
[05:16] <aaas> SIFTU well thats the thing the only reason I have to sync is becasue truecrypt + samba with thunderbird and evernote aren't playing well... i need to run them locally, hence the syncing
[05:16] <new2net> sudo ifconfig eth1 up .... SIOCSIFFLAGS: Connection timed out ? What does that even mean? Nothing relevant in sys.log
[05:16] <Hiro2> CoverSlide: that sounds good, how do I do that?
[05:17] <Roasted> test
[05:17] <new2net> Roasted: Test 1/1  Passed 1/1
[05:17] <Roasted> new001, <3
[05:17] <Roasted> new2net, <3
[05:18] <Roasted> I failed :(
[05:18] <CoverSlide> Hiro2: http://www.linuxselfhelp.com/gnu/grub/html_chapter/grub_4.html#SEC21
[05:18] <Hiro2> thank you
[05:19] <acer_> pompista
[05:19] <josh__> ?
[05:21] <josh__> hie out!!
[05:21] <magnus> Hi
[05:23] <josh__> some one will talk?
[05:24] <magnus> Someone here knows how I can get the error message for the current Fildes, the browser on the current page?
[05:24] <Polah> magnus: That no sense
[05:24] <Polah> Oh lol, neither did my sentence.
[05:24] <Polah> Magnus: That made no sense.
[05:25] <magnus> sorry translage.google :S
[05:26] <newb> hi, is there a way to get the subtitles off a dvd into a text doucment?
[05:27] <CoolCoder> I am using Dual boot. Now in my ubuntu, i need add some space to disk. I have used gparted and there is 40GB unalocated space. I have created new partition using ntfs. Is that the actual file system? Will this space added to the existing partition?
[05:28] <magnus> I trying to use apache on my ubuntu, and whene I got error messages, they to the error.log, but is it a way to get the error messages such Help.php when I open Hjelp.php browser?
[05:33] <StanleyPTP> hiro2: you can apt get startupmanager
[05:33] <StanleyPTP> if you still have ubuntu intact
[05:37] <AndroidLoverInSF> how to permanently change time in ubuntu.  i change it from gui right top corner, but it just reverts
[05:38] <wildbat> CoolCoder: yes, no
[05:38] <pdtpatrick> what's the python version in Ubuntu 10.04 LTS ?
[05:39] <bullgard6> [Jaunty] A window appears: "Username onflict" Please type a new username for your local account: ***. Cancel | OK" What has coused the appearance of this window? It never appeared with me before.
[05:39] <magnus> Polah, I trying to use apache on my ubuntu, and whene I got error messages, they to the error.log, but is it a way to get the error messages such Help.php when I open Hjelp.php browser
[05:40] <Polah> magnus: You want PHP error messages to display in your browser when they occur? Like error: unexpected { on line 15?
[05:41] <bullgard6> pdtpatrick: 2.6.5ubuntu1
[05:41] <magnus> yes :P
[05:41] <new2net> which version of the generic-pae kernel is Natty currently using?
[05:41] <StanleyPTP> Date and time can be a headache. You may need to set your location correctly.
[05:42] <bullgard6> pdtpatrick:No. it's  2.6.5-0ubuntu1
[05:42] <magnus> Polah, that's right :)
[05:42] <Polah> magnus: In your PHP files you need to add the line error_reporting(1)  somewhere between the <?php ?> tags
[05:42] <Polah> magnus: There's other levels too I think, here: http://php.net/manual/en/function.error-reporting.php
[05:42] <magnus> oki :)
[05:45] <Polah> magnus: There may also be an option to do so globally in your php config files.
[05:47] <bullgard6> new2net: Currently I am not using Natty. You can find that outy ourself by consulting packages.ubuntu.com.
[05:49] <test> nick lincolnix-test
[05:57] <keron> dasasdasddddddddddddddddddd
[05:57] <keron> hello
[05:57] <keron> i'm new to ubuntu
[05:57] <keron> can someone help me?
[05:58] <shaddai_> help you do what?
[05:58] <keron> im installing ubuntu 10.04
[05:59] <keron> i want to install the driver for nvidia
[05:59] <shaddai_> Okay...is it installed yet?
[06:00] <shaddai_> I mean Ubuntu
[06:00] <keron> yes its intalled
[06:00] <Principe_Dei_Sog> Ciaoooo!!!!!!!
[06:00] <keron> installed i mean
[06:00] <mulvus23_> exit
[06:01] <keron> next i install the driver via hardware
[06:02] <shaddai_> There's an item under system preferences or system administration that says install additional drivers
[06:02] <shaddai_> or 3rd party drivers or something to that effect.
[06:02] <keron> via hardware drivers
[06:02] <shaddai_> I'm going from memory, I went to Kubuntu instead
[06:03] <nmvictor> Finally Shuttlew*th, ubuntu's core designer has succedded in putting Ubuntu on a road travelled by few Linux users, I hear 11.10 wont ship Gnome shell. In other words, the Ubuntu classic option, which had worn most experienced users hearts, wont be their any more. Its either you do with his Unity or die! I choose not to die, I'll be swicthing to Linux Mint, Its based on Ubuntu, I can only hope it doesnt ship the unity sh*t, Why wont ShuttleW*th just get it, U
[06:03] <keron> now my ubuntu has blank screen
[06:04] <keron> can someone help me?
[06:04] <Rogach> nmvictor, can you give a link to your source? I'm interested in it too?
[06:04] <keron> hello
[06:04] <bullgard6> new2net: Currently I am not using Natty. You can find that out yourself by consulting packages.ubuntu.com.
[06:05] <shaddai_> sorry...distracted.
[06:05] <new2net> bullgard6: oh i already found out. Sorry, I forgot to thank you :)
[06:05] <bullgard6> [Jaunty] A window appears: "Username onflict" Please type a new username for your local account: ***. Cancel | OK" What has coused the appearance of this window? It never appeared with me before.
[06:05] <Flannel> nmvictor: This channel is for support, not discussion.  If you'd like to have a discussion, please take it to #ubuntu-offtopic, thanks.
[06:05] <new2net> bullgard6: now I'm reading the manual for make >.> drivers lol
[06:05] <shaddai_> I didn't think ubuntu would go blank if the xorg.conf is borked...guess it will.
[06:05] <bullgard6> new2net: Enjoy Ubuntu!
[06:06] <nmvictor> Rogach: http://www.lifehacker.com.au/2011/09/first-look-at-ubuntu-linux-11-10-oneiric-ocelot-beta/#comment-75764,  http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/?p=12299
[06:06] <keron> hello
[06:06] <keron> sda
[06:06] <keron> asd
[06:06] <keron> da
[06:06] <keron> adfs
[06:06] <FloodBot1> keron: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:07] <new2net> bullgard6: thanks, maybe you know off the top of your head how to compile a directory that looks like this:  [ .  ..  e100.c  ethtool.c  kcompat.h  Makefile ]
[06:08] <bullgard6> new2net: No, I do not know that by heart.
[06:08] <keron> hello
[06:08] <new2net> bullgard6: aww, it's typically always the same. too bad my bash history got truncated XD
[06:09] <keron> how to install the driver?
[06:12] <Lint> my system is very sluggy, what can be a reason?
[06:13] <daed> probably disease.
[06:13] <nmvictor> Lint: Unity
[06:13] <bullgard6> !!enter | keron
[06:14] <Lint> i don't have unity I have xfce
[06:15] <nmvictor> Lint: Well, ur processor, or Graphics card, or RAM or anything else ... doesnt seem to work for you. when does it get slaggier, we could start from their
[06:16] <Lint> also I,m on "stable" 11.04
[06:16] <bullgard6> Lint: Do you mean "sluggish"?
[06:17] <Lint> I mean irresponsible like mouse lag, windows redrawing etc
[06:18] <bullgard6> Lint: Please analyze you log /var/log/dmesg.0 for errors.
[06:18] <bullgard6> Lint: Please analyze your log /var/log/dmesg.0 for errors.
[06:18] <new2net> feh... kernel/drivers/net/e100.ko  already have it
[06:22] <TearDrop> Hello, um... Is this a place to ask about ubuntus boot menu?
[06:23] <Sanchez> join #ubuntu-de
[06:23] <TearDrop> Ohkaii. Is that the boot menu chat?
[06:24] <keron> ubuntu boot menu use startup manager
[06:24] <TearDrop> You don't even know what I want to do yet.
[06:24] <keron> you want to edit menu.lst?
[06:25] <TearDrop> :S I though this one had the cfg thingy
[06:25] <keron> so what you want to do?
[06:25] <keron> teardrop?
[06:25] <CoolCoder> wildbat: how will we add this new space to the existing database
[06:26] <TearDrop> Anyway. No. I have Ubuntu and Windows installed. But I don't use windows anymore (much) but I still want it there. But That menu is icky and ugly, so i wanna hide it
[06:26] <TearDrop> But the hidden stuff in the /default/grub thing dosnen't make it go away :(
[06:26] <Shirakawasuna> TearDrop: there's a way to make is so that there's a smaller dialog which says 'hit any key for boot options' and does the normal countdown
[06:27] <TearDrop> Can I have it so there is no countdown, it only shows if im holding shift?
[06:27] <Shirakawasuna> I'm not sure
[06:27] <Shirakawasuna> you could alternatively make it only 1 second long
[06:28] <TearDrop> I had it like that when It was pure ubuntu. But my mom made me install windows because "Only boys do that stuff with computers" So... I kinda wanna hide it from her when she uses it.
[06:28] <TearDrop> One second might doo... shes blind as a bat anyway XD :D
[06:29] <Gredeu> hopefully it wont be in the front page headlines
[06:29] <TearDrop> Cus she told me to delete it cus shes stupid and sexist :( but i want it and she only uses it like once a month anyway, so like... yea :P
[06:29] <bullgard6> [Jaunty] A window appears: "Username onflict" Please type a new username for your local account: ***. Cancel | OK" What has coused the appearance of this window? It never appeared with me before.
[06:30] <jorge_-> join #ubuntu-es
[06:30] <TearDrop> So like, how would I do it.
[06:31] <CoolCoder> i have added some diskspace to ubuntu/ and by using gparted i have formated that unallocated space to "ext2" format. Now how i will add this space to the system(Its showing not enough space message)
[06:32] <ubuntu_user> mother fucker
[06:32] <Gredeu> i get prerelease of final version of security updates and propietary video card drive final candidates
[06:32] <ubuntu_user> father fucker
[06:32] <FloodBot1> ubuntu_user: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:32] <Gredeu> i fib
[06:33] <ubuntu_user> shut up
[06:33] <TearDrop> ubuntu_user, no cursing :( its bad.
[06:33] <ubuntu_user> i'will find fucker user
[06:33] <ubuntu_user> i;m sorry
[06:33] <jsec> if you're going to be an idiot, at least make sense about it
[06:33]  * jsec shrugs
[06:33] <ubuntu_user> son of the bitch
[06:33] <ubuntu_user> sorry
[06:33] <Gredeu> !ops ubuntu_user
[06:34] <TearDrop> ubuntu_user, No. Applogise to everyone. You could have offended people >:(
[06:34] <Lint> I cannot see any errors in dmesg
[06:34] <ubuntu_user> Gredeu, fucker shut up
[06:34] <Lint> but even cursed keyboard is not fluent
[06:34] <jsec> or at least.... vary it up
[06:34] <Lint> !ops
[06:34] <ubuntu_user> shut up
[06:35] <TearDrop> ubuntu_user... stoooopppp!
[06:35] <jsec> ubuntu_user: expand your palette plzkthx.
[06:35] <ubuntu_user> shut up
[06:35] <TearDrop> ubuntu_user. :(
[06:35] <ubuntu_user> shut up
[06:35] <Flannel> ubuntu_user: Hey, simmer down.
[06:35] <ubuntu_user> shut up
[06:35] <FloodBot1> ubuntu_user: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:35] <Gredeu> hi Mr. Flannel
[06:35] <CoolCoder> i have added some diskspace to ubuntu/ and by using gparted i have formated that unallocated space to "ext2" format. Now how i will add this space to the system(Its showing not enough space message)
[06:35] <CoolCoder> ???
[06:35] <Lint> CoolCoder: you cannot
[06:35] <i_is_broke> what is the command to reset gnome-panels?
[06:35] <TearDrop> Shirakawasuna, So like, how do i do it?
[06:36] <TearDrop> i_is_broke, killall gnome-panel
[06:36] <Lint> CoolCoder: add it in fstab
[06:36] <TearDrop> i_is_broke, They come back, no worried :> its maaagiicc :D
[06:36] <i_is_broke> lol
[06:36] <Gredeu> you can reset gnome2 from command line googling reset gnome to defaults
[06:36] <i_is_broke> cool i like magic...:D
[06:37] <CoolCoder> Lint: do i need to format this space again?
[06:37] <new2net> .
[06:37] <i_is_broke> thanks for the google fu Gredeu . i got chya.
[06:37] <i_is_broke> ty, TearDrop
[06:37] <TearDrop> Flannel, whatcha doin to the chat?
[06:37] <Flannel> TearDrop: Nothing much.
[06:38] <TearDrop> Flannel, :3 why can you do it but not like, others.
[06:38] <Gredeu> how re you Flannel ?
[06:38] <Flannel> Gredeu: I'm doing alright.  Yourself?
[06:38] <Gredeu> good :) ty
[06:38] <CoolCoder> Lint: how to add this space into fstab
[06:38] <Shirakawasuna> TearDrop: sorry, I don't remember. I would google it and check the ubuntu, archlinux, and gentoo wikis on grub menu tweaks
[06:39] <Lint> CoolCoder: choose a mount point and create a new record
[06:39] <TearDrop> Flannel, >.< Whats archlinux and gentoo? is archlinux like... another kernel.. cus ares is linux, so like... archlinux sounds like linuxes enemi
[06:39] <Lint> on unrelated note: VT1 keylogs my X session o_O
[06:39] <TearDrop> whoops... wrong person :3
[06:40] <Flannel> TearDrop: Archlinux and Gentoo are other distros, just like Ubuntu is a distro.
[06:40] <wh1zz0> Hello guys.. I have a static IP and I'm running ubuntu natty desktop. I wish to host my mini website on my home computer. In other words I wish ti turn my desktop into a web server. Yes I've done some googling and I understand some of the advantages and disadvantages but I want to do this as it's part of the learning curve and it will hlp me understand a few things better. So here goes my question, how can I achieve this without having to 
[06:40] <TearDrop> Flannel, Oh. Whats the difference :S
[06:40] <Flannel> TearDrop: All three use linux as the kernel, and have many of the same programs available for them.  It's just a different group of people managing it, with differences due to that, basically.
[06:41] <TearDrop> gentoo sounds like a good name for a frog :)
[06:41] <bullgard6> [Jaunty] A window appears: "Username onflict" Please type a new username for your local account: ***. Cancel | OK" What has coused the appearance of this window? It never appeared with me before.
[06:41] <Lint> TearDrop: archlinux does not sign packages or track dependencies, gentoo compiles everything from source
[06:41] <Gredeu> are home web server notorious for hack attempts ?
[06:41] <TearDrop> Flannel, Meh, they should all work together on one big distro. One for like, everybody.
[06:41] <Lint> why VT1 keylogs my X session? is it normal? what's to blame??
[06:41] <TearDrop> Like.... why have patoons when you can form an army.
[06:41] <Matth1a3> when someone talks about binaries, they mean a build of source code - like an executable, right?
[06:42] <Lint> TearDrop: unfeasible
[06:42] <Flannel> Matth1a3: right
[06:42] <xqix9u2v> misconfigured home web servers?
[06:42] <TearDrop> Lint if all use the same kernel and programs... why not?
[06:42] <Lint> TearDrop: not the same binaries, dependencies etc.
[06:42] <Flannel> TearDrop: The same reason all automobiles aren't the same color; people like different things.
[06:42] <q0_0p> by default in /usr/src/linux is .config already modified by default?  the reason why i ask is because i wish to have less modules.
[06:43] <wh1zz0> Can I achieve this using ubuntu desktop or I will have to do a full install of ubuntu server.. this is my question
[06:43] <TearDrop> then make all automobiles pink :D problem solved. and it would be pretty too!
[06:43] <xqix9u2v> either
[06:43] <Lint> wh1zz0: there's no difference except price
[06:43] <TearDrop> haha, I get it though.
[06:43] <Flannel> wh1zz0: You can just install the webserver stuff, yes.
[06:43] <Flannel> !apache | wh1zz0
[06:43] <Flannel> wh1zz0: The wikipage there gives you all the details on setting it up
[06:43] <q0_0p> wh1zz0: you can use ubuntu desktop and just remove the gui.
[06:43] <xqix9u2v> wh1zz0, either one will work but start with server
[06:44] <TearDrop> A lamp is something you smash over stupid guys head. not a webserver >.< I'm still getting used to all this.
[06:44] <wh1zz0> Thanks Flannel and Linit >> I remember doing this once on windows 2003 using IIS but this time I'm trying to figure how to get it to work on ubuntu
[06:44] <calmpitbull> good morning. i have a possibiliti to put ma sim card directly into laptop and i was wonderning does anybody have any experience with gprs and 3g networks on ubuntu
[06:44] <TearDrop> calmpitbull, I DO! :D
[06:44] <xqix9u2v> wh1zz0, do you have a router?
[06:45] <Lint> wh1zz0: it's much more difficult due to stupidly diffiult apache configuration
[06:45] <Lint> last time I tried it, packaged apache wasn't even associating php with php
[06:45] <Flannel> If you install all of the right packages (that wikipage walks you through it), it's pretty simple and straightforward.
[06:45] <Lint> can someone explain why VT1 keylogs my X session??
[06:46] <wh1zz0> Lint: Hmm
[06:46] <xqix9u2v> heres how you do webserver in a nutshell
[06:46] <TearDrop> Lint, because a hacker wants your password. all your base are belong to us
[06:46] <xqix9u2v> install ubuntuy, forward port 80 on router
[06:46] <wh1zz0> Flannel: Which of the Wikis are you referring to?
[06:47] <xqix9u2v> done
[06:47] <Flannel> wh1zz0: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP the one from the factoid ubottu sent y
[06:47] <wh1zz0> Thanks Flannel ....
[06:47] <Flannel> TearDrop: We prefer to keep this channel support only, with discussions and chit-chat (and humorous comments) in #ubuntu-offtopic.
[06:47] <wh1zz0> xqix9u2v: I don't have a router
[06:47] <wh1zz0> xqix9u2v: But my IP is static
[06:47] <TearDrop> Flannel, sorry :(
[06:47] <xqix9u2v> ok do you dial up, dsl, cable?
[06:48] <xqix9u2v> ok sorry thats right
[06:48] <wh1zz0> xqix9u2v:  Cable.. ethernet
[06:48] <wh1zz0> xqix9u2v: i.e LAN
[06:48] <calmpitbull> TearDrop: come to offtopic i would like to know how does it work and
[06:48] <wh1zz0> dhcp
[06:48] <xqix9u2v> ok... does this box have 2 ethernet cards?
[06:49] <TearDrop> calmpitbull, It just worked for me... idk. I didn't need to do anything.
[06:49] <xqix9u2v> if not, get 1 more card and make it into a router AND webserver
[06:49] <lxuser> hi
[06:49] <wh1zz0> xqix9u2v: Not sure.. I know I have a LAN adapter
[06:49] <xqix9u2v> this raises complexity considerably... but if you wnat to learn
[06:50] <wh1zz0> xqix9u2v: And wireless adapter..Is there a fast command to check ?
[06:50] <Lint> also repository site tries to hack me
[06:50] <xqix9u2v> well just looking at back would be fine
[06:50] <lxuser> I'm back with ubuntu now. However I have a small issue. I installed a new theme and the window buttons are on the left side. How do I change it to the right?
[06:50] <xqix9u2v> you have 1 ip, and many computers?
[06:51] <Flannel> xqix9u2v, wh1zz0: I don't know why he'd need two network cards to host a website.
[06:51] <lxuser> btw, that's why I installed a new theme because all the basic ubuntu themes are on the left.
[06:51] <xqix9u2v> no he has 1 ip
[06:51] <xqix9u2v> and no router
[06:51] <Flannel> xqix9u2v: He wants to use the same computer he's currently using, just add apache to it.
[06:51] <xqix9u2v> so next box he plugs in will not get ip
[06:52] <xqix9u2v> ahhh he has 1 computer only..
[06:52] <new2net> xqix9u2v: I want to learn.  http://pastebin.com/bFa6EXgj  I can't bring my interface eth1 up
[06:52] <new2net> err, yes I tried running it as su
[06:53] <wh1zz0> xqix9u2v: if  by just looking at the back, it's one LAN port that exist
[06:53] <wh1zz0> Flannel: Exactly
[06:53] <Lasers> I'm trying to dd a local sda2 over network -- in particular folder. How can I do it? I tried this... sudo dd if=/dev/sda2 | ssh chris@xps.local 'dd of=/media/ea11b55c-1942-43d7-a321-d4ae7773ebc9ae7773ebc9/vaio-sda2.iso' -- but no such file or directory.
[06:53] <xqix9u2v> ok you do have a router, and 2 eth
[06:53] <wh1zz0> Same PC
[06:53] <wh1zz0> xqix9u2v: Nah, no router
[06:53] <xqix9u2v> hmm yea install Ubuntu, forward port 80, done!
[06:53] <bullgard6> [Jaunty] A window appears: "Username onflict" Please type a new username for your local account: ***. Cancel | OK" What has caused the appearance of this window? It never appeared with me before.
[06:54] <xqix9u2v> yeah you probably have router builtin to cable modem that is class c addy
[06:54] <hplpb> what, in your opinions, is the best way to remotely control the current x desktop?
[06:54] <wh1zz0> xqix9u2v: I thought port forwarding is something that has a relationship with routers
[06:54] <xqix9u2v> hplpb, realvnc, ultravnc, tight vnc
[06:54] <TearDrop> How do you make your own bootsplash? Cus I have photoshop and im not to bad if i say so myself, Id like to make my own with pretty birds and pink :3
[06:54] <xqix9u2v> any of those
[06:55] <Lint> (1) why VT1 keylogs my X session
[06:55] <wh1zz0> xqix9u2v:  Well yeah no doubt there's an inbuilt router but it's inaccessible
[06:55] <TearDrop> Cus ubuntu needs more pink :D
[06:55] <Lint> (2) why Ubuntu ,mirror tries to hack my machine?
[06:55] <hplpb> xqix9u2v: are either of those any better than using x11vnc?
[06:55] <SwedeMike> Lint: what makes you think (2) ?
[06:55] <TearDrop> AND blue, gotta have light blue , like a baby robin :3
[06:55] <rww> Lint: how are you coming to the conclusions that lead you to ask these questions?
[06:56] <TearDrop> ?
[06:56] <xqix9u2v> wh1zz0, type 'ip route'  what is last line?
[06:56] <Lint> I see denied incoming connection attempt from mirror server
[06:56] <Lint> repeated one
[06:56] <xqix9u2v> hplpb, sorry i should have asked what platform the client is...
[06:56] <Onlyodin> new2net, what is the output of `sudo ifconfig eth1 up`?
[06:57] <new2net> Onlyodin: exactly the same
[06:57] <xqix9u2v> rww, can you remove my ban in #debian??
[06:57] <Lint> rww: about (1) it's every key I type in x session including arrows and stuff is printed on VT1
[06:57] <rww> xqix9u2v: no, I am not a #debian operator
[06:57] <xqix9u2v> ok thnak you rww
[06:58] <Gredeu> when you install a package is there anyway to get it to appear in the unity menu ?
[06:58] <hplpb> xqix9u2v: using tightvnc viewer on windows, androidvnc on my phone
[06:58] <wh1zz0> xqix9u2v:  default via 192.168.1.1 dev eth0  proto static
[06:58] <xqix9u2v> wh1zz0, try to connect to 192.168.1.1 in browser
[06:59] <TearDrop> does itunes work on ubuntu 11.04 wine?
[07:00] <Lint> Gredeu: isn't it automatic via *.desktop files?
[07:00] <wh1zz0> YEah... did that before, says cannot be accessed
[07:00] <TearDrop> rww why are so many people getting unbanned? did they say sorry?
[07:00] <xqix9u2v> hplpb, i like RealVNC but not many features.  if ultravnc worked better in my scenario i would try that it is pretty full of usefull stuff
[07:00] <new2net> this is crazy... instead of a bridged connection I'm going to connect to my laptop with a wire, bridge to my router wirelessly, tunnel through the router with ssh using my box as a proxy. two eth? is 1 too many
[07:01] <wh1zz0> xqix9u2v: SOMAportal is not enabled on this system.
[07:01] <xqix9u2v> wh1zz0, ahh alright just checking... well i would call your ISP and tell them you need to access that page
[07:01] <hplpb> xqix9u2v: thanks
[07:01] <sujith> My ubuntu hangs when i shut it down
[07:02] <xqix9u2v> hplpb, no prob
[07:02] <StanleyPTP> Can anyone help me regarding pulse audio?
[07:02] <xqix9u2v> wh1zz0, i am not familliar
[07:02] <TearDrop> rww, I think everyone should have to make a full appology before they are let back in.
[07:02] <Shirakawasuna> TearDrop: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=1347
[07:02] <Shirakawasuna> TearDrop: also lots of bans are automated 1 hour bans for flooding/whatever, I assume
[07:02] <lxuser> ok maybe nobody knows what I'm talking about. the buttons on the  you click to close, minimize or maximize is on the left side instead of the right, how do I fix this? thanks
[07:03] <lxuser> on the window
[07:03] <wh1zz0> xqix9u2v: I did that before but it seems it's disabled by default.. So there's no way this would work without forwarding any port?
[07:03] <StanleyPTP> Is it a good idea to apt-get remove pulse?
[07:03] <Shirakawasuna> TearDrop: ah, and for the iTunes I just linked, the overall impression I get is that older versions are fine, newer versions are crap
[07:03] <Shirakawasuna> StanleyPTP: not in general, no.
[07:03] <wh1zz0> xqix9u2v: I called them but they said they won't open it
[07:03] <TearDrop> Hmm.... I am an apple dev.. so i have the new iTunes 10.5 ... it had OTA (sync without the plug) so... we might not need the usb plug support for wine to use idevices.
[07:03] <TearDrop> I shall test haha.
[07:03] <Shirakawasuna> stamina: but you can survive without it, you just have to realize that ubuntu expects it to be there and work around it
[07:04] <Shirakawasuna> err, StanleyPTP ^
[07:04] <sujith> My ubuntu hangs when i shut down. i'm using ubuntu 10.10 and system config is lenovo ideapad z750  , i3 processor 3gb Ram. it Happens most of the times. Any suggestions?
[07:04] <xqix9u2v> wh1zz0, ok i see yes they need to open that or you will not be able to forward.
[07:04] <cihhan> im trying to install linux to a laptop i have just bought, but i cant create any partition.
[07:04] <Shirakawasuna> sujith: I know this is kind of a stupid/annoying answer, but just updating to 11.04 might help.
[07:05] <wdd```> any of u guise willing to proofread a resume
[07:05] <StanleyPTP> Shirakawasuna: upon an advice from luigi that I should remove pulseaudio due to my probem with impress
[07:05] <Shirakawasuna> sujith: basically, it's probably a config, low-level system tool, or kernel issue, most of which should change after upgrading
[07:05] <rww> wdd```: ask #ubuntu-offtopic or ##english
[07:05] <wh1zz0> xqix9u2v: Whew
[07:05] <TearDrop> Shirakawasuna, I may seem like a cute innocent blonde, but I know and use on a regular basis 3 programming langauges and 6 scripting langauges, learning c# now to add to that.
[07:05] <sujith> Shirakawasuna, : I had Done that But 11.04 is giving me a lot of problems hence i had to revert back to 10.10.
[07:05] <Shirakawasuna> StanleyPTP: it's safe to do so, but some audio in other programs might not work as well - you might have to fiddle around and make them use gstreamer/alsa
[07:05] <Shirakawasuna> StanleyPTP: and you can always revert by installing pulse again
[07:06] <TearDrop> Shirakawasuna, So I may be able to develop a patch to get it working under wine :D. New project!
[07:06] <Shirakawasuna> TearDrop: that would be super awesome!
[07:06] <luigi> Yes, removing pulse may not be the best, but it's not a permanent thing.
[07:06] <luigi> Nor hard to undo.
[07:06] <Shirakawasuna> sujith: ah
[07:06] <StanleyPTP> Shirakawasuna: Let say I removed pulse, do I have to replace it with anything?
[07:06] <sujith> Shirakawasuna, : Yes I have updated my ubuntu through Ubuntu Update Manger Still i Facec the same issue.
[07:06] <TearDrop> Kay, Im gonna try that. What langauge is most of wine's code in?
[07:06] <Shirakawasuna> StanleyPTP: nope
[07:06] <Shirakawasuna> StanleyPTP: pulse builds on top of tools that are there by default, mostly alsa
[07:07] <StanleyPTP> Shirakawasuna: so basically open ALSA will take over by default?
[07:07] <Shirakawasuna> sujith: sorry about that, I don't have any other ideas :/. I'm new to ubuntu, so I don't know what to troubleshoot.
[07:07] <Shirakawasuna> StanleyPTP: pretty much
[07:07] <bullgard6> [Jaunty] A window appears: "Username onflict" Please type a new username for your local account: ***. Cancel | OK" What has caused the appearance of this window? It never appeared with me before.
[07:07] <bullgard6> [Jaunty] A window appears: "Username conflict" Please type a new username for your local account: ***. Cancel | OK" What has caused the appearance of this window? It never appeared with me before.
[07:07] <Gredeu> when i apt-get install a package it does not appear in my unity menu. any way to fix ?
[07:08] <TearDrop> StanleyPTP, Pulse is just a layer over alsa. If you have alsa, it will work instead.
[07:08] <rww> bullgard6: Jaunty hasn't been supported since October, either officially (for security updates) or in here.
[07:08] <xqix9u2v> wh1zz0, sorry...
[07:08] <sujith> Shirakawasuna, : Can u Direct me to anyone else who can help me on this issue? Anyways Thanks For your Support and Time :)
[07:08] <TearDrop> StanleyPTP, You could also use OSS.
[07:08] <StanleyPTP> Shirakawasuna: One more thing, if after removing pulse, then I install it again later, will it be any difficulties?
[07:08] <bullgard6> Gredeu Replace Unity with GNOME 2.
[07:08] <Gredeu> want to use unity
[07:09] <wh1zz0> xqix9u2v:  I was of the opinion that it is possibe without having to forawrd any port because opera unite for instance doesn't require any port forwarding to function. This made me believe that there's hope, but the technology behind opera unite and how they achieved that is what i'm stil trying to figure out
[07:09] <TearDrop> UGH! I just got a call >.< I g2g and get to coding :/ Cyahs Thanks all, byeeeee <3
[07:09] <Lint> bullgard6: gnome2 is deprecated
[07:10] <lxuser> ok this is crazy! I downloaded the "not xp" ubuntu theme and the instructions says... "Install this theme in your Home/.theme folder" LOL how do I do that?
[07:10] <Shirakawasuna> sujith: Sorry, I'm new to #ubuntu as well so I don't know. I suppose if I were you I would check /var/log/everything after one of these freezes and see if it has any useful messages. The timestamps will be on the left and you'll have to sift through a lot of unrelated stuff.
[07:10] <Shirakawasuna> StanleyPTP: I haven't done it before, but I wouldn't expect it.
[07:11] <StanleyPTP> Shirakawasuna" tq
[07:11] <Shirakawasuna> StanleyPTP: You'd have to undo whatever workarounds you end up doing to make things work without pulse
[07:11] <Shirakawasuna> maybe
[07:11] <bullgard6> rww: I made a mistake. I meant Lucid. --  A window appears: "Username conflict" Please type a new username for your local account: ***. Cancel | OK" What has caused the appearance of this window? It never appeared with me before.
[07:11] <StanleyPTP> Shirakawasuna: yes, noted
[07:11] <rww> bullgard6: what's the username it's complaining about?
[07:11] <Shirakawasuna> Gredeu: there's probably a command you can run, but logging out/in might help
[07:12] <StanleyPTP> exit
[07:12] <bullgard6> rww: My normal username is "detlef". This strange window proposes that I type "detlef #2".
[07:13] <rww> bullgard6: do you use gajim?
[07:14] <bullgard6> rww: Yes I do.
[07:15] <martin_> hey people
[07:15] <xqix9u2v> wh1zz0, ok yes it may be possible, eg you sigh up somewhere and then you will have a website hosted on your system as is without touching router hmmm...  yes there probably is something that would work although i have not heard of any/those you mentioned
[07:15] <rww> bullgard6: That text string appears in gajim's code in a function that looks to deal with name conflicts in zeroconf/bonjour/link-local xmpp accounts
[07:15] <martin_> can someone tell me songname of this clip please msg me
[07:15] <celltech> Is there a way to jail break an iphone through linux? Cause I'm not switching to android or palm. I'm iphone only
[07:15] <martin_> http://z0r.de/2410
[07:15] <martin_> need song
[07:15] <martin_> name
[07:15] <rww> bullgard6: I was not aware that those accounts could /have/ name conflicts, but there's somewhere to start looking
[07:15] <rww> martin_: offtopic for here, try #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:15] <martin_> okay
[07:16] <bullgard6> rww:  Ah. Intersting. Thank you very much for your help. Using your information I will now start more snooping. --  Thank you very much again.
[07:22] <Onlyodin> new2net, it's probably not working because you've configured the same IP address on eth1 as is already on eth0
[07:23] <new2net> Onlyodin: YES! I know that is one issue (probably the most important), how do I fix that. I want to bridge eth0 and eth1 where eth0 is for WAN
[07:24] <wh1zz0> xqix9u2v: Hmm
[07:25] <Onlyodin> new2net, you need a bridge interface, br0
[07:25] <new2net> Onlyodin:  ok,  sudo brctl addbr br0
[07:26] <new2net> Onlyodin: sudo brctl addif br0 eth1 eth0   ... i wont run that (it disconnects me)
[07:27] <Onlyodin> new2net, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkConnectionBridge
[07:27] <andrewh192> is there a room that might be able to help me figure out web design css stuff?
[07:28] <Onlyodin> new2net, this one also: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BridgingNetworkInterfaces
[07:28] <wh1zz0> new2net: You want to bridge or you want to create an ad-hoc?
[07:28] <xqix9u2v> wh1zz0, it would require some sort of software on your system for just this puropse...  Opera Unite: When you fire up Opera, you’ll be operating a secure server and you will be able to serve all kinds of content (whatever you want, basically: bookmarks, contacts, cached content, arbitrary files from a roped-off area of your local storage, web pages of your own) to other Opera users, at the very least, and maybe all browser users, at the ve
[07:28] <xqix9u2v> ry most.
[07:28] <zul__> anyone can help me in a permission error while pushing in git?
[07:28] <new2net> Onlyodin: I followed it to the letter, I still get the same error when I run sudo ifconfig eth1 up.  I think that ipaddr is causing the problem
[07:28] <bluelf>  hey all ,i just installed gnome 3 on ubuntu 11.04 its working fine except the top bar , its multi colored any idea what should I try ?
[07:29] <Lasers> netmind: "sudo apt-get install bridge-utils" -- Set it up with nm-applet. Look in Properties -- Set it up to "Shared" or something similar. You're done.  (That was my experience)
[07:30] <Lasers> new2net: ^^
[07:30] <new2net> whizz0: http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/4927/thepictureq.png  NIC#1 = eth0, NIC#2 = eth1
[07:30] <wh1zz0> xqix9u2v: Yeah you are right, I understand the fact that I will have to install apache or something to create the server and create a public dir visible to the www but it's just the port forwarding part im trying to do without
[07:30] <Onlyodin> new2net, yes, you'll need to remove the ip(s) from eth1/eth0 first and put your ip address on br0.  Perhaps try Lasers recommendation.
[07:31] <xqix9u2v> wh1zz0, i dont think you need apache for that only Opera Browser and Unite plugin
[07:32] <xqix9u2v> wh1zz0, it has been over 10 years shince i've installed Opera
[07:32] <wh1zz0> xqix9u2v:  No I just used opera unite as an example.. when you taked about port forwarding. I want to host my website on my PC. Opera unite is a bit different in that there's a limit to the kinds of things you can share
[07:33] <wh1zz0> I just wanted to point out that when I installed opera unite back when I was in windows, it worked without me having to do any port forwarding
[07:34] <xqix9u2v> wh1zz0, right.  i was thinking like maybe a service that you sign up for and install some software to interface... this would bundle nicely with a DNS service
[07:36] <new2net> Onlyodin: ok.. so how do I change the IP addr for eth1... I mean... it's not even up
[07:37] <wh1zz0> xqix9u2v: Hmm
[07:39] <Guest37816> hi
[07:40] <benonsoftware> Hi all
[07:40] <new2net> Lasers, Onlyodin: OK I'll try to undo the damage I have done and restart using Lasers suggestion.
[07:41] <rww> dontkickplease: fun and amusing fact: you're muted in #ubuntu, so nobody is seeing your silliness.
[07:41] <bsmith093> i have a bunch of web comics organized like comicname/comics/2001/01/blah.jpg how do i batch move them all to comicnamme/comics/*
[07:42] <bryan__> hello  everyboody
[07:42] <benonsoftware> Hello
[07:42] <joshuahardy95> Hello, I just installed Ubuntu 11.04. but i think it has deleted the boot loader for windows 7 (the partion it was on is still there and nothing has been deleated) so how do i get the windows boot loader back so i can dual boot)
[07:43] <new2net> rww: how tempting is it to kick?
[07:43] <glebihan> bsmith093, find comicname/comics -name "*.jpg" -exec mv {} comicname/comics
[07:44] <Pupeno_> I'm considering buying an external hard drive. I'm checking out this LaCie one, but it says it has password encryption. I don't care about that, but will that prevent it from working with Linux?
[07:44] <glebihan> bsmith093, but be careful if several files have the same filename
[07:44] <bryan__> who can help me with my soundcard  error
[07:44] <lxuser> hi, can you read me?
[07:44] <grendal-prime> I got this issue where a box hangs on reboot
[07:45] <Lint> you should always have windows boot floppy at hand
[07:45] <grendal-prime> anybody have that happen?
[07:45] <lion42> Pupeno_, usually that means there's some crappy encryption software on it that you can easily delete.
[07:45] <bsmith093> glebihan: find: missing argument to `-exec'
[07:45] <lxuser> I just installed ubuntu 10 and I can't get the sound to work. Please help, what do I look for and where?
[07:45] <Pupeno_> lion42: ok, great.
[07:45] <grendal-prime> Lint, are you insane?  everyone knows windows causes siphilus
[07:46] <lion42> Pupeno_, that said, "encrypted" drives tend to cost more than plain ones, so you might want to look for another external based on that alone.
[07:46] <Lint> joshuahardy95 boot from win7 dvd and choose corresponding repair options
[07:46] <new2net> Pupeno_: Why not just put it on someone else's drive... a file host or something
[07:46] <Lint> joshuahardy95 then boot from ubuntu livedvd and reinstall grub
[07:46] <Pupeno_> new2net: put what?
[07:47] <joshuahardy95_> ok thankyou, its that simple...
[07:47] <new2net> Pupeno_: whatever it is that you put... bits I guess
[07:47] <new2net> files
[07:47] <Pupeno_> new2net: what? there's no someone else. What are you talking about?
[07:47] <Pupeno_> lion42: I see.
[07:47] <bryan__> HOW ABOUT ME
[07:47] <Hathadar> server irc.esper.net
[07:48]  * Lint wonders why WIndows 7 can boot from floppy disk, and Ubuntu cannot
[07:48] <Lasers> !details | bryan__
[07:48] <new2net> Pupeno_: I mean. I'm too cheap to buy a drive, I just store my big files on a file host (free). Then save the URL to a text document... it's like 99.9% compression
[07:48] <xqix9u2v> wh1zz0, lets take a step back...  any solution that may exist will need you to sign up and utilize a server that has an Internet address.  So at this point you may as well just lease a box from someone else.  i have personally used a godaddy provisioned virtual machine and hosted/maintained websites
[07:48] <lion42> Pupeno_, I think new2net is asking if the thing you need an external drive for cannot be served with some sort of online file hosting service.
[07:48] <new2net> take that bz2
[07:48] <new2net> yeah, like ubuntu one
[07:48] <bryan__> i  love ubottu
[07:48] <Pupeno_> Yeah, no, it can't.
[07:49] <wh1zz0> xqix9u2v:  How much do these boxes cost for leasing/
[07:49] <wh1zz0> ?
[07:49] <glebihan> bsmith093, sorry forgot the ";" : find comicname/comics -name "*.jpg" -exec mv {} comicname/comics \;
[07:49] <xqix9u2v> well godaddy vms were slow but i dunno i bet maybe 15 usd/month?
[07:50] <bsmith093> glebihan: i ran this and the files vanished alongwith the floder
[07:50] <lxuser> ok I have a problem with sound, I'm running Ubuntu 10.
[07:50] <Lint> can I get somwe explanation why ubuntu mirror srever tried to hack my machine?
[07:50] <lxuser> I don't think this chat is working at all.
[07:50] <new2net> glebihan: you want to find something then move it to the same place?
[07:51] <xqix9u2v> wh1zz0, ask around i bet you could find ones cheaper than that but idk really
[07:51] <glebihan> new2net, bsmith093 wants to do that yes
[07:51] <bazhang> Lint, thats not credible. please stop
[07:51] <xqix9u2v> While the dedicated servers usually starts at $79.99 at GoDaddy (but currently available at half price), you can get a VPS for less than half that. And with this fantastic promo, you can get GoDaddy’s cheapest VPS for only $15/month for up to two years.
[07:52] <Lint> bazhang: [UFW BLOCK] SRC=213.180.204.183 DST=192.168.0.166
[07:52] <xqix9u2v> source: godaddy.com ^^
[07:52] <bsmith093> glebihan:  well actually what im trying to do is get one full year of specific webcomics together in one folder and make yearly pdf files, so archive them, this particular example is the webcomic el goonish shive
[07:53] <Lint> bazhang: it's _incoming_ connection attempt
[07:53] <warddr> Hello all, I wrote a python script that should be running all the time when ubuntu is running, how can I do that?
[07:55] <xqix9u2v> warddr, use cron
[07:55] <warddr> xqix9u2v, and what time should I specify?
[07:56] <glebihan> bsmith093, and what happened exactly when you ran the command I gave you ?
[07:57] <jack> am i the only one with connection issues to de.archive.ubuntu.com?
[07:57] <xqix9u2v> warddr, every hour check if it is still running
[07:57] <glebihan> warddr, if your script just has to be started on boot, then put a command to launch it in /etc/rc.local
[07:58] <warddr> Ok, that's what I need, it'll keep on running from then
[07:58] <xqix9u2v> jack, i can ping it
[07:58] <bsmith093> glebihan: im actually not sure, but the files basically wnt away, to somewhere else, and its easier to just redownload them and start over
[07:58] <xqix9u2v> warddr, timtowtdi
[07:59]  * warddr reboot to test if it works
[07:59] <glebihan> bsmith093, but you said the folders were moved too ? the command cannot do anything to folders (unless the folder name contains spaces that you didn't escape)
[07:59] <wh1zz0> xqix9u2v: Okie sorry lemme understand a lil bit better.. When you say box.. Are you referring to dedicated VPS?
[07:59] <jack> xqix9u2v: ping works here as well
[08:00] <jack> but apt hangs
[08:00] <Lint> is it normal behaviour for ubuntu mirrors to establish incoming connections to user machines?
[08:01] <xqix9u2v> jack, hmm
[08:02] <hamedlll_> how to install sorce package (tar.gz) plz ????
[08:02] <jack> doesn't hang in fact, just doesn't build a connection
[08:03] <glebihan> !compile | hamedlll_
[08:03] <xqix9u2v> wh1zz0, oops.. um idk can you quote me box is a box is a box
[08:03] <wh1zz0> hamedlll_: unzip first :: tar -zxvf package.tar.gz
[08:03] <xqix9u2v> jack, sometimes repos go down try another maybe just for test
[08:04] <wh1zz0> xqix9u2v: Lol
[08:04] <jack> xqix9u2v: hmm
[08:04] <wh1zz0> xqix9u2v: Well.. If that is true.. will the box have a configurable router?
[08:04] <jack> never edited my sources.list manually  yet
[08:04] <xqix9u2v> wh1zz0, no it will have raw Internet ip
[08:04] <glebihan> jack, you don't have to
[08:05] <jack> no?
[08:05] <glebihan> jack, you can select you mirror from the "software sources" tool
[08:05] <wh1zz0> xqix9u2v: Hmmm, then how about the forwarding part?
[08:05] <xqix9u2v> wh1zz0, again not necc you will be on Internet
[08:06] <jack> uh, indeed
[08:06] <xqix9u2v> point browser to the ip of your vm
[08:06] <wh1zz0> xqix9u2v: OR are you saying that when there's a raw internet IP, there's no need to do port forwarding? Cuz remember the essence is to host my website without having to buy hosting and all that.
[08:07] <wh1zz0> xqix9u2v: And to learn more by administering my own webserver
[08:07] <bsmith093> glebihan: current the pics are laid out like this /home/ben/www.egscomics.com/comics/2002/01/*.gif whereas i need them like this /home/ben/www.egscomics.com/comics/*.gif
[08:07] <hamedlll_> where can I download Dlink dialup modem driver???
[08:07] <Lint> wh1zz0: you bind apache to your external IP.
[08:08] <xqix9u2v> wh1zz0, yes say you lease a VM box from somewhere... they you will ssh into it and admin it remotely
[08:08] <wh1zz0> Hmm
[08:08] <wh1zz0> I see..
[08:08] <glebihan> bsmith093, then find /home/ben/www.egscomics.com/comics/2002/01/ -name "*.gif" -exec mv {} /home/ben/www.egscomics.com/comics/ \;
[08:09] <bsmith093> thanks gleb
[08:09] <wh1zz0> xqix9u2v: Is that the same as what Lint calleed binding?
[08:09] <glebihan> bsmith093, or even simpler "mv  /home/ben/www.egscomics.com/comics/2002/01/*.gif /home/ben/www.egscomics.com/comics/"
[08:09] <hamedlll_> where can I download Dlink dialup modem driver???
[08:09] <wh1zz0> Lint: Or are you referring to my PC
[08:09] <Lint> why newest ubuntu replaced free evolution with non-free thunderbird?
[08:10] <rww> Lint: how is Thunderbird non-free?
[08:10] <Lint> wh1zz0: I mean local hosting
[08:10] <bsmith093> glebihan: but the problem is theat its not just 2002 but also every year since abnd they all have 01 - 12 folders inside them
[08:10] <glebihan> Lint, it wasn't replaced and thunderbird is free
[08:10] <Lint> it is Mozilla corporation product, isn't it?
[08:10] <rww> Lint: and?
[08:10] <bsmith093> glebihan: basicaylly its broken down by month and i need it all in one folder
[08:10] <xqix9u2v> Lint, he has no access to router ISP does not allow servers
[08:10] <hamedlll_> where can I download Dlink dialup modem driver???
[08:10] <rww> glebihan: (Ubuntu oneiric uses Thunderbird instead of Evolution)
[08:11] <everth> hi
[08:11] <glebihan> bsmith093, ok then find /home/ben/www.egscomics.com/comics/ -name "*.gif" -exec mv {} /home/ben/www.egscomics.com/comics/ \;
[08:11] <everth> :(
[08:11] <glebihan> rww, ok didn't know that, thanks (but we're not in the oneiric channel)
[08:11] <xqix9u2v> wh1zz0, "are you saying that when there's a raw internet IP, there's no need to do port forwarding?"  answer: yes
[08:12] <hamedlll_> where can I download Dlink dialup modem driver???
[08:12] <Lint> that means I cannot customize it without doing some idiocy like re-naming it, because 'thunderbird' is patented trademark, doesn't it?
[08:13] <hamedlll_> where can I download Dlink dialup modem driver???
[08:13] <xqix9u2v> lets say you now go to network-tools.com...  it will show your internet address of your router
[08:13] <glebihan> Lint, it's an open source software, you can do whatever you want with it as long as you conform to the GPL license
[08:14] <xqix9u2v> but unless you can forward, noting will ever get to your LAN where the web server is
[08:15] <hamedlll_> where can I download Dlink dialup modem driver???
[08:15] <glebihan> !repeat | hamedlll_
[08:15] <hamedlll_> sorry
[08:16] <wh1zz0> xqix9u2v: Then if that's the case why wouldn't you consider my static IP (i.e for instance the one I see when I visit ipchicken.com) as a raw external IP?
[08:16] <xqix9u2v> hamedlll_, is this a modem card or some external device
[08:16] <joshuahardy95_> hello, I am  on a Toshiba satellite a500 and my wireless connection keeps dropping (this is not hardware because it works fine with Windoze).
[08:16] <hamedlll_> modem card
[08:17] <xqix9u2v> the static IP you have is the router itself, and it is not running a httpd
[08:17] <wh1zz0> Lint: okie local.. Hmm.. know of a way to make it work without having to forward anyport? Cuz I don't have a router
[08:17] <xqix9u2v> the httpd is running on your LAN firewalled off
[08:17] <xqix9u2v> using NAT
[08:17] <wh1zz0> xqix9u2v: Owh
[08:18] <xqix9u2v> going incircles
[08:18] <wh1zz0> xqix9u2v: Hmmm
[08:18] <xqix9u2v> take a step back
[08:18] <xqix9u2v> you are a poor troll but ill go with it
[08:18] <wh1zz0> Lol.. sorry
[08:19] <michaelxq> where can i find and install r5u8xx?
[08:19] <xqix9u2v> wh1zz0, hehe np i suspect trollness for about an hour now :D
[08:20] <wh1zz0> xqix9u2v: Lol.. No but really, no pun intended
[08:22] <michaelxq> where can i find and install r5u8xx?
[08:22] <xqix9u2v> wh1zz0, ok i am going to store lol
[08:23] <wh1zz0> xqix9u2v: I reay nid this thing sorted, but thanks to you i've understood a couple of things, I guess i'll have to either change my ISP or get a VM in the mean time
[08:26] <xqix9u2v> wh1zz0, yea im kidding about troll i think you kinda had some idea here but clarification and imma goto store
[08:28] <zoufeng> Hi,how about Ubuntu 11.10 Beta 1?
[08:28] <Lint> wh1zz0: what are you trying to do?
[08:28] <Lint> zoufeng: gaudy and buggy
[08:28] <grendal-prime> this hanging thing is very irratating
[08:29] <grendal-prime> what would be a good log to look at to see what the last thing that happened before a system whent to shit
[08:30] <wily> hey i'm pretty new to ubuntu and i had a question and was hoping you guys could help me out?
[08:30] <zoufeng> I know,I want to try it but I donnt know how well it work. so I ask.
[08:31] <zoufeng> What  question?
[08:32] <martin123> hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[08:32] <sanjeevkb_1> hey folks, does anyone know where to download an x86-64 version for Dell laptops (core i5)
[08:32] <zoufeng> Please say clearly!!
[08:32] <Shogoot> Hi people. Any of you that had this nvidia problem that breaks Unity? (is unity the same as gnome3?) i got a brand new isntall of ubuntu 11.04 but unity fails to load.
[08:32] <Lasers> sanjeevkb_1: Ubuntu.com --> Opt for amd64
[08:32] <Lasers> Shogoot: Unity is not same as Gnome3.
[08:33] <wily> I just ran a .sh file and i have no idea if it worked or not or where it installed to, this http://www.kat.ph/crossover-linux-pro-8-djm-t2820628.html to be exact... i don't know how to phrase my question better sorry...
[08:33] <sanjeevkb_1> Lasers, yes, I did. But amd-64 ?
[08:33] <Lasers> sanjeevkb_1: amd64 is a generic name for all 64 bit processors.
[08:33] <Shogoot> There are so  many guides on the intenret. Anyone care to direct me to one that works?
[08:33] <sanjeevkb_1> Lasers, thanks a lot.
[08:33] <wily> i ran it in the terminal and it seemed to work
[08:33] <Lasers> sanjeevkb_1: Because amd first came up with it. No problem.
[08:33] <wh1zz0> Lint: I am tying to create a webserver on my ubuntu desktop so I can host my website on it
[08:34] <sanjeevkb_1> another issue I have is w.r.t nvidia drivers
[08:34] <Lint> !piracy
[08:34] <wh1zz0> Lint: I do have a static IP  But I do not have a router
[08:34] <wily> alright my bad
[08:34] <Lint> wh1zz0: you don't need a router
[08:34] <sanjeevkb_1> "Additional Drivers" says it is activated but not in use.
[08:34] <wh1zz0> Lint: GREAT!
[08:34] <Shogoot> Hi people. Any of you that had this nvidia problem that breaks Unity? There are so  many guides on the Internet. Anyone care to direct me to one that works?
[08:34] <wh1zz0> Lint: I don't need to forward any port?
[08:35] <wh1zz0> Lint:  Please give me the 411
[08:35] <Lint> wh1zz0: no, your ISP forwards ports for you
[08:36] <wh1zz0> Lint: So I just install apache and follow the instructions on the wiki and i'm goog to go? it will become visible and accessible on the ww from any PC?
[08:37] <sanjeevkb_1> I recently found that nvidia released new software for the card in my laptop. Has anyone tried installing nvidia drivers before?
[08:37] <Lint> wh1zz0: yes
[08:37] <wh1zz0> Lint:  Cuz when I type 192.168.1.2 in my browser i get this: SOMAportal is not enabled on this system.
[08:37] <wh1zz0> 192.168.1.1 rather.. I get this: SOMAportal is not enabled on this system.
[08:38] <Lint> wh1zz0: what is 192.168.* subnet?
[08:38] <Shogoot> sanjeevkb_1, yes, and its usually quite safe to upgrade drivers for Nvidia. Eighter from their site or when i hits repositories and then trough system-> administration -> additional drivers
[08:38] <wallu> hello every one how can i make animation work ubuntu 10.04 ati graphics card dual monitor everthing works but animation
[08:40] <wh1zz0> yeah. when i type ip route
[08:40] <wh1zz0> ...in the terminal
[08:40] <wh1zz0> Lint: then how will i access my website from another computer?
[08:41] <wh1zz0> Will I have to use a DNS hosting service to point the A record to my domain?
[08:41] <Lint> wh1zz0: you provide your external IP address, it gets mapped to your provider's local address
[08:41] <Lint> wh1zz0: of course
[08:42] <Lint> do you know your external IP and local IP?
[08:43] <wh1zz0> Lint: Okie thanks.. I'll give it a try... one last thing please.. Will this tutorial work with natty desktop which is what I currently have installed.. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP   OR do you have a better tut that I can follow, cuz btw, there are lots and lots of conflicting tuts out there
[08:53] <Kartagis> !info yasm
[08:53] <prakas> is padsp installed by default in ubuntu 11.04
[08:54] <theadmin> !find padsp | prakas
[08:54] <Kartagis> prakas: yes
[08:54] <Kartagis> it seems so
[08:54] <theadmin> prakas: There, "pulseaudio-utils". You need that package. Not sure if it's built-in
[08:55] <prakas_> dc
[08:56] <prakas_> !find padsp | prakas
[08:56] <prakas_> are these packages included in ubuntu 11.04?
[08:56] <theadmin> prakas_: You need that second package. I'm not sure if it's included
[08:56] <prakas_> !find aoss | prakas
[08:56] <theadmin> !info pulseaudio-utils
[08:56] <prakas_> i see
[08:57] <prakas_> !info alsa-oss
[08:57] <theadmin> prakas_: If you want to play with the bot for your own use, just /msg it, do not fire random triggers in the channel.
[08:57] <prakas_> ah ok
[08:59] <pea_brain> hi all, one of my servers is giving a login problem: it takes the user id, makes me wait for 60 seconds or so and gives a timeout without a password prompt. does anyone have an idea why it should be so ?
[08:59] <pea_brain> forgot to mention it is ubuntu 8.04
[09:00] <maicol> buongiorno a tutti
[09:00] <theadmin> !it | maicol
[09:01] <QMR> Anyone here got minecraft working??
[09:02] <theadmin> QMR: Why not? It should work just fine as long as Java is set up
[09:02] <QMR> theadmin: so you have it working?
[09:03] <QMR> I'm well aware it "should" work.  it obviously doesn't or I wouldn't be seeking help
[09:03] <theadmin> QMR: I don't play it, but many  people play minecraft on Linux just fine. Make sure you're not using JRE7 though, it doesn't work with that
[09:03] <QMR> http://pastebin.com/b8c3KNVw
[09:03] <QMR> ii  sun-java6-jre                         6.26-1natty1                               Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 6 (architecture independent files)
[09:07] <poppler> hello there
[09:07] <DeltaEpsilon> my laptop runs hotter when using Ubuntu. why?
[09:07] <poppler> my SUPER+W shortcut is not working anymore on unity, ubuntu 11.04. I didn't do anything to deserve it (no messing up with conf files). why?
[09:08] <poppler> all other SUPER+key shortcuts seem to be working fine
[09:08] <poppler> any idea?
[09:08] <rapage> I have a question
[09:09] <Lasers> DeltaEpsilon: Run "htop" or System Monitor[GUI] -- to see what's causing the high CPU/MEM.
[09:09] <maxflax> Anyone here have knowledge about getting ubuntu running on a Macbook. I've run into some problems
[09:10] <Ristovski> hello I cant boot my Ubuntu from USB
[09:10] <DeltaEpsilon> Lasers, umm it seems it runs hot when the screen is locked
[09:10] <Ristovski> I think my BIOS wont boot from it but I set it to Removable Dev.
[09:10] <rapage> how to install java runtime support for firefox 3.6 I downloaded file jre-6u27-linux-i586.bin and ./ ran it but it didn't work then I copied the plugin files to 2 dif locations of mozzila plug folders but still nothing
[09:10] <QMR> rapage: 'I have a question' is entirely useless and a waste of a line for everyone.  Don't ask to ask, just ask.  If someone is willing and able to help they will
[09:10] <QMR> like that :D
[09:11] <sujith> Ristovski, : DId u prepare the Bootfile in the USB through UNetBootin?
[09:11] <Lasers> DeltaEpsilon: Meh. If you have another machine, try ssh in and run "htop"
[09:11] <Ristovski> help ls
[09:11] <QMR> rapage: it's better to use the package manager to install things
[09:11] <Ristovski> siujith : no?
[09:11] <Ristovski> I need to open Windows again?
[09:11] <szal> !java | rapage
[09:11] <Ristovski> sujith : I loose my work Im using live cd
[09:11] <sujith> Ristovski, : Can you please tell me how did you prepare your USB boot file?
[09:12] <maxflax> I think the problems lies in where I choose to put the MBR -
[09:12] <Ristovski> sujith : I used the System boot disk creator
[09:12] <maxflax> but only get the black screen with the blinking cursors staring in my face when trying to boot the ubuntu i installed
[09:12] <maxflax> Mac Os X still boots thou
[09:13] <Lasers> maxflax: Just use VirtualBox.
[09:13] <Ristovski> sujith : help please?
[09:13] <sujith> Ristovski, : oh kk So you are using Windows to create a boot disk? Yes using a live Cd is like a temporary file. Once you shut down your system its gone
[09:14] <maxflax> Lasers - Nah, thats for testing stuff not for everyday use - not for me thou
[09:15] <Ristovski> sujith : can i use Ubuntu to create the USB?
[09:15] <Ristovski> I kinda dont wanna go to windows
[09:15] <Lasers> maxflax: Meh. Okay. It also have full screen option so if you really want to use linux, that can work too. It's what I use. :3
[09:15] <sujith> Oh kk
[09:15] <maxflax> Ristovski - Unetbootin
[09:15] <Ristovski> on windows?
[09:15] <Ristovski> I dont wanna go to windows
[09:15] <maxflax> on all os
[09:16] <Ristovski> ok
[09:16] <sujith> Ristovski, : then you can install ubuntu on Your system instead of using Windows right?
[09:16] <maxflax> Unetbootin creates bootable usb on boot linux,windows and mac os
[09:16] <sujith> Ristovski, : And if you still want to Create a Bootable USB use UnetBootin
[09:16] <Ristovski> sujith : dont wanna corrupt windows
[09:16] <Ristovski> ok
[09:18] <sujith> Ristovski, : But still using a Live Cd I dont Think you Can Save Your Work .
[09:18] <Ristovski> sujith : in what app to open the .bin file?
[09:18] <sujith> Ristovski, : in which OS are we speaking bout ?
[09:18] <Ristovski> ubuntu
[09:19] <maxflax> Lasers: I dont really like Mac OS and don't want to be foreced to use it just to load Linux in a virual machine - for me thats living with a blindfold.
[09:19] <Ristovski> sujith : it sauys choose app to open file
[09:19] <Ristovski> help?
[09:19] <rigved> Ristovski: it is an executable file. just run it in the terminal.
[09:20] <Ristovski> rigved : its .bin file
[09:20] <Ristovski> and I cant open it
[09:20] <maxflax> Ristovski, when creating a bootable usb with unetbootin u can add space in the usb which will be used for saving your work and such, its a feature just for ubuntu
[09:20] <Ristovski> I need to open the .bin
[09:20] <Ristovski> how?
[09:21] <User182401> Hi, is there a way to load the graphics driver before anything else? So the loading screen appears first.
[09:21] <sujith> maxflax : Can you Pleaase detail on How to add the extra space in usb when using unetbootin
[09:21] <sujith> ?
[09:21] <Stanley00> Ristovski: can you show me output of "file /path/to/your/bin"
[09:21] <User182401> Ristovski: You could convert it to .iso
[09:21] <Kartagis> !find xvidenc-dev
[09:21] <rigved> Ristovski: do you want to run/execute the file. then run it from the terminal. if you want to view it's contents, then open using the Text Editor (gedit).
[09:21] <maxflax> sujith, u have it as an option i unetbootin when creating the bootable usb
[09:22] <rigved> Ristovski: is it a cd/dvd image?
[09:22] <Martinette> Hello! I want to install adom on UBuntu 10.10 64bit. Is this possible?
[09:22] <Ristovski> nooooooooooo
[09:22] <Ristovski> .bin file
[09:22] <Ristovski> :There is no application installed for executable files:
[09:22] <Ristovski> that
[09:23] <Stanley00> Ristovski: can you show me output of "file /path/to/your/file.bin"
[09:23] <Ristovski> ok
[09:23] <maxflax> Anyone here have knowledge about getting ubuntu running on a Macbook. I've run into some problems
[09:23] <Ristovski> wait
[09:23] <Ristovski> Stanley
[09:23] <sujith> maxflax, : So Do you mean to tell thsi will make my usb Work a bootable as well as a storage device?
[09:23] <Ristovski> no bin ?
[09:23] <Ristovski> only executable
[09:23] <Ristovski> but says There is no application installed for executable files
[09:24] <sujith> Ristovski, : are you trying to install the file *.bin
[09:24] <sujith> ?
[09:24] <Ristovski> no
[09:24] <rigved> Ristovski: in the terminal, type: /path/to/file.bin and press enter. that should execute it.
[09:24] <Ristovski> theres an executable file in my downloads folder
[09:24] <maxflax> sujith, well not quite but it claims to save your changes and such on the space u set aside for it. never tried it but have seen the option when creating usb discs
[09:25] <joshuahardy95_> just a small problem --- with 11.04 and skype, the skype button is real tiny like 1 pixel big? how do i fix?
[09:25] <Ristovski> bash: /home/ubuntu/Desktop/unetbootin-linux-549: Permission denied
[09:25] <sujith> maxflax, :  oh KK!! Thank you mate. New learning for me today. Thanks for the Knowledge Pill :)
[09:25] <learner> ubuntu 10.10 not able to connect to mobile broadband..the mobile broadband settings has been done..modem is detected ..everything was working fine yesterday..but not able to connect nw..any suggestion
[09:25] <Ristovski> rigved ^^
[09:26] <Stanley00> Ristovski: then, try chmod +x to your file. I hope.
[09:26] <buser> I have some problems with dragging stuff between different workspaces. When I start fresh it works perfectly. But just a moment ago all my workspaces collapsed into one leaving the other two workspaces empty. Now I cant move windows between workspaces with the cursor. Very annoying. (10.04)
[09:26] <Ristovski> Stanley : how?
[09:26] <sujith> Ristovski, : try chmod 755  <file_name> and try
[09:26] <theadmin> Ristovski: chmod a+x ~/Downloads/whatever.bin
[09:26] <Stanley00> Ristovski: run chmod +x /path/to/your/file
[09:27] <rigved> buser: did you try to replace compiz or metacity?
[09:28] <buser> no
[09:28] <Ristovski> nothing happens
[09:28] <buser> Changing settings in the CCSM does not seem to make any difference
[09:28] <Ristovski> :/
[09:28] <theadmin> Ristovski: Well, duh, you won't see anything. Now run the file again.
[09:28] <sujith> My CompBiz Window Effects Are not Working ? Any Suggestions?
[09:29] <Ristovski> theadmin nothing
[09:29] <learner> sujith: can u specify in more detail
[09:29] <theadmin> !u | learner
[09:29] <buser> rigved, , or is that a suggested fix?
[09:30] <Ristovski> I cnt run ANY executable files
[09:30] <sujith> learner, : Can you please tell me what are the details you require
[09:30] <Ristovski> sujith ^^
[09:30] <sujith> ?
[09:30] <theadmin> Ristovski: That means you're doing it wrong and that's all :/
[09:31] <buser> rigved, replacing compiz seems to do the trick
[09:31] <Ristovski> well can you help me?
[09:31] <sujith> Ristovski, :  hw did u run the File nw?
[09:31] <buser> rigved, why does it do that?
[09:31] <rigved> buser: log out and log in again. does that help? as to the cause of the problem, i do not know. maybe some application caused it.
[09:31] <Ristovski> sujith : nothing happens
[09:32] <theadmin> Ristovski: I did. Either you did something wrong, not following the directions properly, or the file isn't executable at all (some console's ROMs use .bin extension too, as well as disk images)
[09:32] <Ristovski> i cant run neither one executable
[09:32] <rigved> buser: no need to replace compiz
[09:32] <buser> rigved, oh? but it works??
[09:32] <learner> sujith: means which specific plugin in compiz is not working?
[09:32] <sujith> Ristovski, : Please Tell me Wat Command did you use when trying to run the EE file
[09:33] <Ristovski> sujith  i double clicked?
[09:33] <buser> rigved, I just ran compiz --replace in a terminal and now everything is back to normal
[09:33] <rigved> buser: try logging in back. are you able to move to other workspaces using the cursor after logging back in?
[09:34] <rigved> buser: yes, it seems that something caused you to switch to metacity
[09:34] <rk1router> hi
[09:34] <theadmin> Ristovski: *facepalm*... That's not how you run typical Linux binaries. Just type the full path to the file in the terminal (after chmod +x'ing it)
[09:34] <buser> rigved, or compiz just broke down =)
[09:35] <rk1router> in ubuntu how to install c++
[09:35] <theadmin> rk1router: c++ is a programming language, you can't "install" it.
[09:35] <buser> rk1router, ooo ... installing c++
[09:35] <daed> sudo apt-get install seeplusplusplus
[09:35] <sujith> Ristovski, : can you provide me a min So that I can Check my Commands and provide you that ?
[09:35] <buser> is that like downloading the pdf from ansi?
[09:35] <Ristovski> theadmin : unetbootin-linux-549: command not found
[09:35] <daed> yah
[09:35] <Ristovski> ?
[09:35] <daed> sudo apt-get convert pdf -> ansi
[09:36] <theadmin> Ristovski: Full path, I said...
[09:36] <rk1router> theadmin: I want to install c++ compiler
[09:36] <theadmin> rk1router: sudo apt-get install g++
[09:36] <rigved> rk1router: that's called g++
[09:36] <BlackScorp> hi all, since i updated the linux headers yesterday my notebook doesnt start anymore, it freeze after plymouth loaded, anyone have a solution?
[09:36] <Ristovski> theadmin nothing
[09:36] <Ristovski> happens
[09:36] <rk1router> theadmin: Thanks.Can you tell me which channel is for gcc
[09:37] <theadmin> rk1router: Not sure
[09:37] <rk1router> Which channel is for GCC
[09:37] <rigved> rk1router: for the c++ language, try ##c++
[09:38] <BlackScorp> in ubuntu software center i can see linux-headers-generic and linux-headers-generic-pae is installed
[09:38] <BlackScorp> maybe i need to uninstall somethink?
[09:38] <sujith> Ristovski, : can you Tell me where you have stored your file in ubuntu?
[09:40] <buser> rigved, hmm it happened again.
[09:40] <Ristovski> sujith desktop
[09:40] <buser> rigved, compiz (core) - Warn: Exceeded max texture size, Launching fallback window manager
[09:40] <mcl0vin> howdy everyone
[09:40] <sujith> Ristovski, : Can you Go to The .Bin File Right click on it Select properties
[09:40] <mcl0vin> i need help with routes in ubuntu
[09:40] <rigved> buser: anything specific that you were doing in both the times?
[09:41] <Ristovski> sujith : and?
[09:41] <mcl0vin> when i do nestat -r i see two entry for the same default gw
[09:41] <theadmin> Ristovski: For god's sake, just "sudo apt-get install unetbootin", that'll be easier for you
[09:41] <sujith> Ristovski, : Then Select the Permission tab And Tick The "Alow Executing File As A program"
[09:41] <sujith> Ristovski, : and Close the properties Window
[09:42] <bhavesh> How can I create a new wineprefix with winetricks?
[09:42] <Ristovski> E: Couldn't find package unetbootin
[09:42] <Ristovski> E: Couldn't find package unetbootin
[09:42] <Ristovski> sujith : did already
[09:42] <buser> rigved, this time I was coding some in QtCreator. But rhythbox also changed track.
[09:42] <theadmin> bhavesh: You can simply run any program like this: WINEPREFIX=~/whatever wine /usr/share/whatever/whatever.exe
[09:42] <theadmin> bhavesh: Or something similar.
[09:43] <sujith> Now Double Click that File. A password Request will Pop up
[09:43] <rk1router> theadmin: Please tell me channel for compiler issues
[09:43] <mcl0vin> can some one help me please
[09:43] <theadmin> bhavesh: So, in your case, WINEPREFIX=~/blah winetricks
[09:43] <sujith> Ristovski, : then Enter the Password and it should work
[09:43] <damo22> rk1router: which compiler
[09:43] <bhavesh> theadmin: ok
[09:43] <Ristovski> sujith : password?
[09:44] <bhavesh> theadmin: but I want to create a new one..
[09:44] <sujith> Ristovski, : Kk When you double Clicked it did it ask for Password?
[09:44] <bhavesh> theadmin: new wineprefix not just run a exe installed in it
[09:44] <rk1router> damo22: gcc
[09:44] <Ristovski> nope
[09:44] <damo22> rk1router: /join ##c
[09:45] <sujith> Ristovski, : Are you using Ubuntu 10.10?
[09:45] <sujith> Ristovski, : or 11.04
[09:45] <sujith> ?
[09:45] <Ristovski> 10.04
[09:45] <sujith> in any Case go to application > and click on Ubuntu Software Center
[09:45] <theadmin> bhavesh: You need to run something like this: mkdir ~/blah ; WINEPREFIX=~/blah wineboot -i
[09:46] <kevor> hi!
[09:46] <bhavesh> theadmin: k
[09:46] <kevor> I'm trying to plugin a SATA drive, managed to plug it in. But it does not show up in my HEENUX, do I need to restart a service or something for it to show up?
[09:46] <sujith> Ristovski, : Could you find do that ?
[09:46] <kevor> Always thought SATA was hotpluggable
[09:46] <Merdam> hi  I have searched online
[09:46] <Ristovski> sujith : what?
[09:47] <Merdam> but I can't find out how
[09:47] <Merdam> to set autojoin
[09:47] <Merdam> for xchat for ubuntu
[09:47] <Merdam> anybody know?
[09:47] <FloodBot1> Merdam: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:47] <rigved> buser: check out bug 537089
[09:47] <sujith> Ristovski, : did you find Ubuntu Software Center Under Applications?
[09:47] <Ristovski> yes?
[09:47] <Guest87799> POLACY !!!???
[09:48] <Myrtti> !pl
[09:48] <sujith> Ristovski, : click on tat
[09:48] <o_portista17> my desktop is slow when i try to minimise windows, and i think it's because of my graphic card..when i execute "glxinfo" i have this message: name of display: :0.0   Segmentation fault
[09:48] <Ristovski> sujith : and?
[09:49] <sujith> Ristovski, : Click on get Software and in the Search box type Unet bootin
[09:49] <rigved> buser: which version of compiz-core are you using? is it the latest updated one?
[09:49] <buser> rigved, yeah it is the tooltips, when I hover over some google mock object in QtCreator it is very reproduceable
[09:50] <Ristovski> diownloads...
[09:50] <raj-darkmystery> ubuntu 10.04 not detecting my ethernet card.. but was working well previously
[09:50] <raj-darkmystery> any suggestions what may went wrong?
[09:50] <Ristovski> installing...
[09:51] <learner> ubuntu 10.10 not able to connect to mobile broadband..the mobile broadband settings has been done..modem is detected ..everything was working fine yesterday..but not able to connect nw..any suggestion
[09:51] <sujith> learner : please try loggin out and loggin in
[09:52] <buser> rigved, 1:0.8.4-0ubuntu15.3 ... seems to be the latest
[09:53] <Ristovski> where is teh .iso file?
[09:53] <k_sze> hi
[09:53] <sujith> Ristovski, : what do you mean by ISO file?
[09:53] <rigved> buser: did you upgrade from karmic to lucid?
[09:53] <Ristovski> the iso so I can select it in Unetbootin
[09:54] <sujith> Ristovski, : you have a Iso File of ubuntu through which you boot in live mode right?
[09:54] <k_sze> Is it trivial to swap the HDD with Ubuntu from one model of motherboard to another one?
[09:54] <jatoo> i was trying to start a remote gnome-session on my desktop from my laptop,  which involved things like restarting X, starting a gnome session, trying to start a unity session, and eventually gave up. now, when i log in on the actual machine, it will only give me normal gnome desktop session, not unity.  any idea how to get it back?
[09:54] <buser> rigved, yeah
[09:54] <ubuntu_> hi, i would like to set multiple keyboard shortcuts to do the same action, for example, mod4+tab and mod4+right both switch to the next workspace
[09:54] <Ristovski> sujith : yes?
[09:54] <sujith> Ristovski, : Now select that file here
[09:54] <rigved> buser: so, it seems that this is happening only to those who have upgraded from karmic to lucid.
[09:54] <sattu94> k_sze: it worked for me once. did not have to try again.
[09:55] <Ristovski> wher is the file?
[09:55] <k_sze> I have a Ubuntu instance that was installed on an Intel Core Duo rig and I may have to swap it to an AMD Athlon II rig.
[09:55] <buser> rigved, ahww that sucks
[09:55] <Ristovski> what directory?
[09:55] <theadmin> k_sze: Caused no issues for me whatsoever when I did it with my Arch setup. Ubuntu is Linux too so, I guess, will work just fine
[09:55] <k_sze> k
[09:55] <k_sze> let me try then
[09:56] <sujith> Ristovski, : you need to download the iso from the Internet
[09:56] <rigved> buser: also, the bug filed is for 1:0.8.4-0ubuntu13 in 2010. maybe you should file a new bug against compiz-core
[09:56] <sujith> Ristovski, : then You can prepare the Bootable file
[09:56] <Ristovski> i have it
[09:56] <Ristovski> on my C drive
[09:56] <Ristovski> I cant access it from Unetbootin
[09:56] <ionite> hi everyone
[09:56] <Ristovski> I can only the linux drive
[09:57] <ionite> how do i edit a rules files from terminal>
[09:57] <ionite> ?
[09:57] <rigved> buser: and it seems that there may be a fix in 0.9 version of compiz, but the comments are not very clear about this.
[09:57] <sattu94> ionite: use a text editor like nano, vi or emacs
[09:57] <sujith> Ristovski, : go  to Places > Select you r C:
[09:57] <sattu94> ionite: nano is easiest
[09:57] <sujith> Ristovski, : And then try to do it from UnetBootin
[09:57] <ionite> sattu94: how can i do it just from terminal?
[09:57] <ishmandoo2> hey, my computer has no sound and if I look under "hardware" in sound prefs, there are no devices. Any ideas? Thanks in advance for your help.
[09:58] <sattu94> ionite: do "nano filename.xx"
[09:58] <sattu94> ionite: where xx us the extension(f it has one)
[09:58] <ionite> sattu94: thanks
[09:58] <bogglin> how do i find out the screen resolution an X11 server is using? I only have shell access, so need to do this from the command line
[09:58] <rigved> buser: my advice. stick to metacity for now; until you finish your work with QTCreator.
[09:59] <theadmin> ionite: You might prefer vim if you need advanced features, be adviced that, however, it's rather complex to use if you are new
[09:59] <Ristovski> cant
[09:59] <Ristovski> no places
[09:59] <Ristovski> oOMG try it yourself
[09:59] <theadmin> bogglin: Run "xrandr", check the output
[09:59] <mebe> fucking in your ass :p
[09:59] <improveupon> i purged the system of firefox, deleted .mozilla, and re-installed and it is still crashing my os (though not as soon as firefox starts). i have 4 gigs of memory. the system becomes unable to detect the hard drive.
[09:59] <sattu94> ionite: np, all keyboard shortcuts are written down there in the terminal itself, when u start nano.
[09:59] <bogglin> theadmin: thanks
[09:59] <rigved> !language | mebe
[09:59] <theadmin> ionite: ^W means Ctrl-W, and M-W means Alt-W, just saying
[10:00] <raj-darkmystery> *-network UNCLAIMED
[10:00] <sujith> Ristovski, : Close unet bootin. Close all application Come to Your ubuntu Dektop. Please be polite If you are Asking For help
[10:00] <rigved> improveupon: have you tried to run firefox from the terminal? maybe you will get a more clearer error.
[10:01] <improveupon> thank you :D
[10:01] <jaber> yo !
[10:01] <jaber> :)
[10:01] <theadmin> improveupon: If no, presum
[10:01] <theadmin> Oops
[10:01] <theadmin> improveupon: If no, presumably you should check if you have a swap partition. Firefox acts weird when there is no swap, or at least used to
[10:04] <learner>  ubuntu 10.10 not able to connect to mobile broadband..the mobile broadband settings has been done..modem is detected ..everything was working fine yesterday..but not able to connect nw..any suggestion
[10:04] <sujith> quit
[10:05] <sujith> Quit : leaving
[10:06] <theadmin> learner: Could it be your mobile broadband account is out of money or something like that?
[10:07] <learner> theadmin, : no mine is an unlimited plan.its working fine with ubuntu live
[10:08] <theadmin> learner: Could be that some updates broke it
[10:08] <theadmin> learner: That happens
[10:09] <learner> theadmin, : i just updated the broken packages through recovery mode.still the problem exist.
[10:10] <QMR> so, at least three times now, I've had desktop go unresponsive.  what the hell?
[10:10] <QMR> my mouse cursor moves, but that's it.  windows dont' respond or update
[10:10] <ionite> sattu94: i've click on Run Nano button but nothing happens
[10:11] <QMR> sdjfksdjk
[10:11] <QMR> ridiculous.  what a huge pile of crap
[10:11] <test> raj-darkmystery
[10:12] <ionite> how do i get to my LIB folder in terminal?
[10:13] <ionite> sattu94: i've click on Run Nano button but nothing happens
[10:13] <linxeh> ionite: cd /usr/lib ?
[10:13] <linxeh> ionite: assuming thats the folder you mean
[10:13] <learner> theadmin, any suggestions?
[10:14] <theadmin> learner: Nope, sorry
[10:14] <ionite> linxeh: ure right but how do i open the rules.d folder?
[10:15] <ionite>  linxeh i tried cd rules.d but it can't get through
[10:15] <abhishekpathak> ionite, open a terminal and type nano followed py the path of rules.d
[10:15] <learner> theadmin, nope??
[10:15] <theadmin> learner: That means "no"... I'm not responsible for the bugs of Ubuntu software.
[10:15] <abhishekpathak> ionite, for example nano /home/ionite/rules.d
[10:15] <linxeh> ionite: cd /usr/lib/udev/rules.d
[10:15] <theadmin> Except it seems he means files in /etc/udev/rules.d/
[10:15] <enrry> hi all. I have updated ALSA to 1.0.24 on Lucid compiling source files. I have a problem: flash player points to a wrong audio card now. Totem works correctly
[10:16] <enrry> anyone can help?
[10:16] <linxeh> ionite: or it might be /etc/udev/rules.d - there are two folders
[10:16] <rk1router> undefined reference to `pthread_getspecific'
[10:16] <ionite> linxeh: why nothing displans in udev folder when i type LS?
[10:16] <abhishekpathak> linex the locate command might also help
[10:16] <linxeh> ionite: you generally dont want to meddle with anything in /usr/lib unless you know what you are doing
[10:16] <abhishekpathak> linex you can always pipe it through grep if the list is too long
[10:17] <ionite> linxeh: i need to add a device line in my rules.d to make my scanner work
[10:17] <linxeh> abhishekpathak: I know. I'm not the one with the question
[10:17] <linxeh> ionite: then you probably want to add a new file in /etc/udev/rules.d/ and add the line to that file
[10:17] <abhishekpathak> linxeh : right.
[10:17] <linxeh> ionite: call it 20-scanner.rules or something
[10:18] <ionite> linxeh: thats right but i cant get to that file in my terminal
[10:18] <linxeh> ionite: cd /etc/udev/rules.d
[10:18] <ionite> it's in Root/lib/udev/rules.d
[10:20] <ionite> linxeh: it's not that directory u mentioned
[10:24] <Tixos> why can i not remove a keyboard language?
[10:24] <jrib> Tixos: how are you trying?
[10:24] <Tixos> everytime i restart it resets back again
[10:24] <Tixos> in keyboard settings?
[10:25] <Tixos> its selected United Kingdom, but the icon in system tray says USA
[10:25] <jrib> Tixos: see if that's recorded by gconf?  See if you have gconf issues
[10:25] <Tixos> i cant remove the USA one,
[10:25] <ionite> what's the the command uninstall?
[10:25] <Tixos> how do i go about checking that
[10:25] <Tixos> ionite: remove or purge
[10:26] <jrib> !apt | ionite
[10:26] <ionite> Tixos: if i want to remove gksudo what do i type?
[10:26] <Tixos> read the docs
[10:26] <jrib> Tixos: I would explore gconf-editor and see if the settings are stored there for starters
[10:26] <jrib> ionite: why do you want to remove gksudo...?
[10:26] <linxeh> ionite: /lib/udev/rules.d/ is for package provided udev rules. if you want to provide your own, or amend existing ones, it is advised you do it in /etc/udev/rules.d
[10:26] <linxeh> ionite: there is even a README explaining this in /etc/udev/rules.d
[10:27] <Tixos> jrib what am i looking for lol? i searched keyboard...
[10:28] <jrib> Tixos: did you find anything?
[10:28] <lolzer> whenever i have the java running my wifi starts switching on/off
[10:28] <lolzer> please help
[10:28] <Tixos> doesnt seem to be anything about language tehre
[10:28] <ionite> linxeh: thanks. http://welcome.solutions.brother.com/bsc/public_s/id/linux/en/instruction_scn1c.html
[10:29] <cristian_c> Hi
[10:29] <jrib> Tixos: do you mean "layout" or "language"?
[10:29] <cristian_c> I've got a keyboard called Media Wireless Desktop
[10:29] <cristian_c> Labtec
[10:30] <Tixos> what the difference jrib?
[10:30] <cristian_c> I tried to set the keyboard shortcuts directly from the Applications-> Settings-> Xfce4 settings manager -> Keyboard-> Applications shortcuts
[10:30] <lolzer> hi all .... i have a problem with the java 6 installed ...  it automatically switches my wifi on and off randomly
[10:30] <jrib> Tixos: the difference is I see "layout" in gnome-keyboard-properties but not "language" so I am not sure what you are referring to
[10:30] <cristian_c> I clicked on Add and for example I typed the command 'evolution'. I pressed Ok and then the system asked me to type the key on the keyboard. In this case the key was correctly recognized as XF86Mail and has been included in the list of shortcuts
[10:30] <linxeh> ionite: ok, in that case you could edit the file it says i
[10:30] <cristian_c> But if I press the mail key, it always happens the same problem, that instead of opening evolution, the pc goes into stand-by
[10:31] <lolzer> is there a solution?? cause it works fine in windows 7
[10:31] <cristian_c> Is anyone able to understand what the problem is due?
[10:31] <Tixos> layout then w.e
[10:31] <Mickey-Mouse> hi
[10:31] <cristian_c> I even tried keytouch editor
[10:31] <Tixos> its the language of the layout
[10:31] <Mickey-Mouse> helper are here?
[10:31] <jrib> !enter | cristian_c
[10:31] <Tixos> the layout depends on the language you speak doesnt it
[10:31] <cristian_c> and it recognized the keys
[10:31] <cristian_c> But after setting up the keyboard with keytouch, if I press the 'mail' key, the PC goes always on standby for no reason
[10:32] <ionite> linxeh: but how do i use nano? cant i just open it with a text editor and edit it?
[10:32] <jrib> Tixos: my understanding is layouts are organized by languages, but in the interface you add and remove layouts
[10:32] <Tixos> ok so what are you asking me, ive told you i cannot remove a layout
[10:32] <Tixos> from this properties window
[10:33] <bogglin> I'm thinking of putting together a Dell box to run ubuntu. It comes with integrated video: Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 3100 with a maximum 256MB of shared video memory. Anyone got this graphics chip and care to comment on its performance for web browsing, playing video, desktop effects etc?
[10:33] <jrib> Tixos: ok.
[10:33] <Tixos> maybe i mistakenly installed with USA layout
[10:33] <Tixos> but now i cannot remove it
[10:33] <Tixos> i think its a bug\
[10:33] <Mickey-Mouse> hi
[10:33] <cristian_c> jrib, Some phrases are on two lines, one of these almost three
[10:33] <jrib> Tixos: psatebin: gconftool-2 -R /desktop/gnome/peripherals/keyboard/kbd
[10:33] <Mickey-Mouse> i can request ubuntu cloack member? host?
[10:34] <jrib> cristian_c: yes, please keep it to one line
[10:34] <jrib> cristian_c: by line I mean carriage return
[10:34] <theadmin> cristian_c: What he means is do not write
[10:34] <theadmin> like
[10:34] <theadmin> this
[10:35] <theadmin> cristian_c: That is, do not use Enter as punctuation.
[10:35] <cristian_c> jrib, I checked better, only one of these is over a line
[10:36] <jrib> cristian_c: as long as you now understand not to press enter to break up your thoughts, I don't how many lines was whatever before.
[10:36] <jrib> *care*
[10:36] <melvincv_> How do you change the default permissions that a Linux OS assigns when we create a file, to 777 permissions?
[10:36] <enrry> goodbye all!
[10:36] <jrib> melvincv_: umask, but you don't want to change that to give 777 permissions.  Why do you want to do this?
[10:37] <cristian_c> theadmin, I saw that the mistake was between the second and third, and between the eighth and ninth
[10:37] <K|nG> Hi there I deleted Compiz and OPENGL mode but now I have problems with my grapich I installed it again but still doesn`t work fine how I can fix that anyone can help me ??
[10:37] <ionite> how can i edit my lib rules in text editor?
[10:37] <jrib> cristian_c: no, we're asking you to write one long paragraph without pressing enter instead of pressing enter after every sentence
[10:37] <cristian_c> theadmin, for the rest of the log has not verified this
[10:37] <enrry> hi all!
[10:37] <cristian_c> jrib, ok
[10:38] <enrry> goodbye all!
[10:38] <melvincv_> I'd like to do that within my home folder on ordinary files. Just asking if it's possible.
[10:38] <jrib> ionite: what are your "lib rules"?
[10:38] <lolzer> hi all .... i have a problem with the java 6 installed ...  it automatically switches my wifi on and off randomly
[10:38] <lolzer> is there a solution?? cause it works fine in windows 7
[10:38] <theadmin> ionite: If you don't even know that udev rules are called udev rules, you probably just shouldn't
[10:38] <ionite> jrib: it's in lib/udev/rules.d
[10:38] <jrib> melvincv_: yes, it's possible.  I told you how to do it.  But it's not a good idea.  Why do you want to do it?
[10:39] <ionite> theadmin: http://welcome.solutions.brother.com/bsc/public_s/id/linux/en/instruction_scn1c.html
[10:39] <cristian_c> jrib, then I'll put it all together in the application
[10:39] <cristian_c> sorry
[10:39] <cristian_c> I'll translate better
[10:39] <ionite> theadmin: how can i edit my lib rules file w/o using nano?
[10:39] <K|nG> Is there any restore system for Ubuntu ??
[10:39] <cristian_c> *in the question
[10:39] <jrib> ionite: why do you want to edit that?  You should override like linxeh suggested above
[10:39] <Stanley00> melvincv_: you can have a look at umask
[10:39] <Tixos>  layouts = [gb,us]                   jrib
[10:39] <melvincv_> Just consider that I came over from Windows :)
[10:39] <abhishekpathak> ionite: what exactly is your problem?
[10:39] <jrib> Tixos: which do you want to remove?
[10:39] <ionite> abhishekpathak: http://welcome.solutions.brother.com/bsc/public_s/id/linux/en/instruction_scn1c.html
[10:40] <lolzer> hi all .... i have a problem with the java 6 installed ...  it automatically switches my wifi on and off randomly
[10:40] <lolzer> is there a solution?? cause it works fine in windows 7
[10:40] <theadmin> ionite: Use vim... lol
[10:40] <Tixos> ive removed from the key
[10:40] <Sidewinder1> K|nG, No restore, per-say; just back-up your /home and reinstall if your problems are that severe.
[10:41] <theadmin> ionite: Again, it's called "udev rules", the proper location for custom rules is /etc/udev/rules.d/, and it's also split across several files
[10:41] <Tixos> so hopefujlly this will remove?
[10:41] <melvincv_> Yes, I had a look at that, but why is the maximum permissions you can set for a file 666 permissions?
[10:41] <ionite> theadmin: it's a brother support web i suppose i can trust it. so how do i being?
[10:41] <jrib> melvincv_: what?
[10:41] <ionite> theadmin: *begin?
[10:41] <K|nG> Sidewinder1: I have remove compiz and opengl and install it again but my grapich is not fine right now :S many features not working :S
[10:41] <abhishekpathak> ionite: what output does cd /etc/udev give?
[10:41] <K|nG> Sidewinder1: there is very very LOW grapich :S
[10:42] <theadmin> ionite: sudo nano /etc/udev/rules.d/99-custom.rules
[10:42] <theadmin> ionite: Or something like that
[10:42] <melvincv_> Give me a minute, I'll pastebin that...
[10:43] <cristian_c> jrib, but if I write so, is possible that you understand anything about the question?
[10:43] <jrib> cristian_c: just ask your question
[10:43] <Sidewinder1> K|nG, For resolution issues, you might look at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution
[10:43] <cristian_c> perhaps too confusing
[10:43] <cristian_c> the question
[10:43] <jrib> cristian_c: then don't ask it.  But stop talking about the question that you refuse to ask then.
[10:44] <K|nG> Sidewinder1: Not Resoulution but There doesn`t show Fade or like this stuff like this :A
[10:44] <ionite> theadmin: that will help me edit on a text editor?
[10:44] <melvincv_> This is from the fedora docs, I can't understand this. Why is the max permission for a file 666? http://paste.ubuntu.com/681129/
[10:44] <theadmin> ionite: Why, yes, it will open a custom rules file in nano
[10:45] <ionite> theadmin: nono. but i dun know how to use nano
[10:45] <jrib> melvincv_: why do you want files to be created 777.  I see no valid reason to do this.
[10:45] <Sidewinder1> K|nG, If it's a compiz issue, there is a #compiz channel, I believe.
[10:45] <jatoo> how can i get ubuntu 11.04 to start a unity session? i somehow broke it and now i can only get a gnome2 session
[10:45] <theadmin> ionite: Well... If you want to use a GUI editor, do this: gksudo gedit /etc/udev/rules.d/99-custom.rules
[10:45] <K|nG> Sidewinder1: thanks :p
[10:45] <ionite> theadmin: how do i do it like in a graphic tesxt editor
[10:45] <Sidewinder1> :D
[10:45] <ionite> theadmin: oic.
[10:45] <tarelerulz> Do any of you have a ipod touch 2.21  ?  I can't get my to work
[10:45] <theadmin> APPLEEEEEEEEEEEEEE >.<
[10:46] <cristian_c> jrib, So can I repeat the question compactly if I understand correctly?
[10:46] <theadmin> Ugh sorry, couldn't hold back. Back on topic now.
[10:46] <melvincv_> It's because programmers asked me to do that to certain folders.
[10:47] <melvincv_> Isn't it better to just chmod -R those folders?
[10:47] <jrib> melvincv_: well you can't do it on a per-directory basis using umask anyway.  Use Access Control Lists for that.  See « man setfacl » and « man getfacl ».  Don't forget to add "acl" as a mount option to the relevant partitions (see « man mount »)
[10:47] <ionite> theadmin: (gksudo:2906): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :0
[10:48] <theadmin> ionite: what the... That should not be happening. Try to close the current terminal and open it again, then repeat the command
[10:48] <abhishekpathak> ionite: just use nano.Its like notepad,except you press ctrl+o to save and quit
[10:49] <abhishekpathak> ionite: the commands are all written at the bottom,just try using nano
[10:49] <jrib> melvincv_: chmod -R would not have an effect on the permissions of NEW files
[10:49] <abhishekpathak> theadmin: probably ionite will have to export the x-display 0 to use gedit
[10:50] <theadmin> abhishekpathak: That makes no sense since it already does detect the display as 0, just can't open it. I just thought he might of have su'd or sudo -i'd earlier or something so that's why I asked what I asked.
[10:51] <grmlu1> Hello. I'm using irssi on Ubuntu. Does anyone know how to send a message with a leading slash? How to escape that character?
[10:51] <ionite> theadmin: thanks its working
[10:51] <jrib> grmlu1: /say /foo works
[10:51] <ionite> abhishekpathak: thanks for nano but i'm really noob at it. sorry
[10:51] <abhishekpathak> theadmin: hmm.
[10:51] <grmlu1> jrib: Thank you.
[10:51] <abhishekpathak> ionite: no issues.the important stuff is to get stuff done :)
[10:51] <enrry> hi, anyone can help with pulseaudio/alsa configuration?
[10:51] <ionite> abhishekpathak: i'm a total noob to ubuntu and now i'm trying hard to get use to it and honestly i find it quite hard to fix some things windows can fix easily
[10:52] <jrib> enrry: best to just ask the channel your actual question (on a single line)
[10:52] <abhishekpathak> ionite: it will take some getting used to,but after that your system will truly be your own
[10:52] <enrry> problem: on lucid, updated to alsa 1.0.24. Flash player points wrong audio device
[10:53] <abhishekpathak> enrry: the problem might be with your mixer
[10:53] <abhishekpathak> check its settings
[10:53] <enrry> can you explain in detail please?
[10:53] <ionite> abhishekpathak: but is it buggy?
[10:53] <Chrysalid> Is there a channel for general tech issues? I'm having hard drive problems but they aren't really ubuntu based, just on a machine running it
[10:53] <abhishekpathak> ionite: if you are using unity,its a work in progress and a bit buggy
[10:54] <abhishekpathak> enrry: are you using gnome?
[10:54] <jrib> Chrysalid: ##hardware, ##linux or here are probably fine
[10:54] <enrry> i'm on lucid, gnome
[10:54] <ionite> abhishekpathak: kde or xfce?
[10:54] <abhishekpathak> ionite: they are pretty much stable
[10:54] <enrry> always worked well but i needed an unsupported updated due to a bug in audio play and to audio device not well recognized
[10:55] <ionite> abhishekpathak: LTS is better or 11.04 better?
[10:55] <enrry> abhishekpathak: totem points the correct device, only streaming with flash player points wrong
[10:55] <Chrysalid> jrib Thank you for the tip. My problem is that when  plug in a SATA drive, one of my IDE drives is no longer detected in bios. It is a bit strange
[10:56] <enrry> and pulse does not show firefox in list when audio is playing
[10:56] <jrib> Chrysalid: see if it's detected on another machine, and on a different port
[10:56] <abhishekpathak> enrry: i guess you are better off googling or asking someone else then
[10:56] <abhishekpathak> i am not sure
[10:56] <enrry> ok thanks
[10:56] <abhishekpathak> ionite: LTS is more stable whereas 11.04 has the latest and greatest features
[10:56] <jrib> Chrysalid: oh I misread.
[10:57] <ionite> abhishekpathak: i guessed so too. but i'm using a net book i wonder what Environment is more suitable for me.
[10:57] <theadmin> ionite: 11.04 probably, Unity is good for netbooks.
[10:57] <jrib> Chrysalid: this probably isn't the right channel then.  I'd suggest motherboard manufacturer/support forums
[10:57] <theadmin> After all, that's it's original purpose.
[10:57] <abhishekpathak> ionite: unity 11.04 will be good enough.
[10:57] <Sidewinder1> Chrysalid, Could it be a "master/slave" issue, with the two drives.
[10:58] <Chrysalid> jrib: thank you for the help
[10:58] <ionite> abhishekpathak: but unity has got this desktop 3D effects which is sluggish in netbooks?
[10:58] <theadmin> ionite: unity2d then
[10:58] <abhishekpathak> ionite: there is another option on unity called unity 2d
[10:58] <abhishekpathak> try that
[10:58] <abhishekpathak> its actually better
[10:58] <abhishekpathak> :)
[10:59] <ionite> abhishekpathak: ok. i'll check out on the web. there's just so much enviornments i don't know which is more suitable. some are eye candies while the others are plain yet stable and fast!
[10:59] <Chrysalid> Sidewinder1: They are on seperate channels, but I guess it is an old board and might be doing something strange with channels. I'll go try changing them a bit.
[10:59] <abhishekpathak> infact you can go for the recently release 11.10 beta as well
[10:59] <Chrysalid> Thanks for the help
[11:00] <abhishekpathak> it is supposed to fix many bugs of 11.04,but then its a beta product right now
[11:00] <Sidewinder1> Chrysalid, Best of luck.
[11:00] <abhishekpathak> ionite: so many desktop environments is one of the strengths of linux.you can use any distro underneath and have multiple desktop env to choose from
[11:01] <abhishekpathak> you can try out all of xfce,kde etc on your ubuntu as well
[11:01] <theadmin> ionite: "plain yet stable and fast", you say? Go and check e17 and Openbox
[11:01] <ionite> abhishekpathak: yea. but i'm just so noob i need to spend alot of time asking which i cant afford due to my work.
[11:01] <abhishekpathak> ionite: infact,kde plasma has a pretty good netbook interface as well
[11:01] <hamedlll> whats the best downloader for linux?
[11:01] <theadmin> hamedlll: There's no "best", but try jdownloader or gwget
[11:01] <abhishekpathak> theadmin: for a beginner,probably those two are not a good idea
[11:01] <ionite> theadmin: i saw elementary OS but hmm.. held back.
[11:02] <theadmin> abhishekpathak: You do have a point.
[11:02] <theadmin> ionite: Elementary just uses Gnome as of now...
[11:02] <abhishekpathak> ionite: download a live cd of kubuntu 10.04 and try
[11:02] <theadmin> abhishekpathak: KDE for a netbook is *never* a good idea
[11:02] <ionite> theadmin: really? why is that so?
[11:02] <abhishekpathak> ionite: you will get the kde environment,which is eye candy and has two modes- normal mode and netbook mode
[11:03] <abhishekpathak> ionite: plus it will be 10.04 LTS so it will be rock stable
[11:03] <ionite> abhishekpathak: i'm so noob so i need alot support and stability. as it's my first time for open source programs.
[11:03] <theadmin> ionite: KDE is too flashy and eyecandy and consumes a ton of video card resources so...
[11:03] <abhishekpathak> theadmin: KDE plasma netbook is good enough,1 Gig RAM is good enough for it
[11:03] <ionite> theadmin: it can be disabled right?
[11:03] <obert> would be a bad sign to cannot launch a VM with ubuntu? it is asking to do something like boot=initarg when try to startup it
[11:04] <abhishekpathak> theadmin: i say this as i have actually run KDE on my HP mini
[11:04] <ionite> theadmin: so far i've tired xfce, kde, unity, gome and almost elementary
[11:04] <theadmin> ionite: Not completely xD Try Xfce. That one is awesome, both lightweight and very easy to use
[11:04] <theadmin> ionite: Oh. Well, Xfce is what I use
[11:04] <ionite> theadmin: it's not very pretty as compared to KDE of course but it's fast.
[11:04] <abhishekpathak> theadmin: i am currently on xfce as well,on debian squeeze
[11:05] <abhishekpathak> theadmin: i switch between it and xmonad depending on my mood :)
[11:05] <ionite> theadmin: environment support for me is very important because i'm new and i need to ask alot of things.
[11:05] <theadmin> abhishekpathak: I'm on Arch, but Xfce is still Xfce... Are you runing 4.8.2?
[11:05] <ionite> abhishekpathak: so i'm looking for pretty, fast and good support. i wonders now if there are any choices left...
[11:06] <theadmin> ionite: Xfce is one of supported environments. Others are Unity, Gnome, LXDE and KDE
[11:06] <abhishekpathak> theadmin: its debian squeeze : lol xfce 4.6
[11:06] <theadmin> abhishekpathak: Oh... wow.
[11:06] <abhishekpathak> ionite: the best bet for you is to use 10.04 LTS for now
[11:06] <auronandace> ionite: xfce can be themed too (beauty is in the eye of the beholder)
[11:06] <abhishekpathak> and in a couple of months when 11.10 is released switch to that
[11:06] <dmtarmey> good day chat room is there anyone who can help with with issue with flash in firefox i cant get it to work
[11:07] <iceroot> ionite: lxde if you want a good gui without useless stuff like on gnome3, kde4, unity
[11:07] <hamedlll> where can i download ubuntu player codecs?
[11:07] <ionite> abhishekpathak: but now i'm on 11.04.
[11:07] <theadmin> hamedlll: apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[11:07] <abhishekpathak> ionite: may i also recommend linux mint to you? its based on ubuntu,makes it even more user friendly and now has taken over ubuntu in popularity on distrowatch
[11:08] <ionite> iceroot: auronandace abhishekpathak theadmin : honestly i've spent alot of time while moving over from windows. i don't regret but just get stucked at many 'what happened?" and compatibility problems.
[11:08] <abhishekpathak> ionite: i will seriously go sugggest you try linux mint katya
[11:08] <Sidewinder1> ionite, Another invaluable resource for info is searching http://ubuntuforums.org.
[11:08] <abhishekpathak> it will make you comfortable
[11:08] <Sonderblade> in ubuntu lucid, how do you install the w32codecs package?
[11:08] <abhishekpathak> ionite: use it for a couple of months
[11:09] <abhishekpathak> ionite: by that time you will be able to make your own desicions i trust
[11:09] <ionite> if some of u guys have noticed. i've been so regularly desparately asking for help in #ubutu
[11:09] <blrom> what is the next ubuntu and when will it be out?
[11:09] <auronandace> !manual | ionite
[11:09] <iceroot> auronandace: ubuntu is still on 1
[11:09] <iceroot> auronandace: sorry wrong nick
[11:09] <compdoc> blrom, new version comes out every 6 months
[11:09] <theadmin> blrom: 11.10, and it will be out in, well, october 2011
[11:09] <iceroot> abhishekpathak: ubuntu is still on 1
[11:10] <auronandace> iceroot: np, i checked it too
[11:10] <isydor> hi, {lucid, 945GM} -> switching from console (ctrl-alt-f1) to display (alt-f7) results in only the mouse cursor displayed, the rest being working (could click the links in firefox) but all black. sudo service gdm restart required to put things in order. Any advice?
[11:10] <dmtarmey> hi i have been trying to use a plugin to firefox which sort out issues with flash but this plugin dosnt work with firefox 6+ i need to install firefox 5 how can i do this pls
[11:10] <isydor> (please)
[11:10] <abhishekpathak> iceroot: did it come back up?mint was #1 some days back...there was quite a lot of hoopla on that as well
[11:10] <ionite> thanks everyone for u help!!! i really appreciate it
[11:10] <iceroot> abhishekpathak: seems like a come back
[11:10] <Sidewinder1> !codecs > Sonderblade
[11:11] <abhishekpathak> iceroot: nope.check out for last 30 days.
[11:11] <abhishekpathak> iceroot: what you are seeing is for last 6 months
[11:11] <Sonderblade> ubottu: you suck
[11:11] <brontosaurusrex_> what should i install to get "openssl development libraries"?
[11:12] <iceroot> abhishekpathak: i think its because of unity...
[11:12] <Xecuter> hi! i need som help with installing gnome 3. Tried it twice, and i can log in to gnome 3 and it works fine, but when i reboot my computer hangs at Stopping System V runlevel compatibility. how can i fix this?
[11:12] <brontosaurusrex_> (node.js wants that)
[11:12] <hiexpo> openssl dev
[11:12] <iceroot> Xecuter: on 11.04?
[11:12] <abhishekpathak> iceroot: last 7 days again ubuntu on top,probably due to its beta
[11:13] <iceroot> abhishekpathak: yes i think so too
[11:13] <Xecuter> iceroot: yes :)
[11:13] <abhishekpathak> iceroot: thing is,ubuntu and mint are pretty neck to neck now
[11:13] <Sidewinder1> !gnome3 | Xecuter
[11:13] <theadmin> Xecuter: Gnome3 is currently not supported.
[11:14] <iceroot> abhishekpathak: but more important is bug 1 in launchpad
[11:14] <Xecuter> theadmin: so you wont help me here?
[11:14] <abhishekpathak> Xecuter: ubuntu is planning to move to systemd , probably the problem is due to that
[11:14] <iceroot> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1
[11:15] <abhishekpathak> Xecuter: oneiric replacing a lot of stuff like /var/lock with /lock, gdm with lightdm,init.d with systemd.In such a case gnome3 will have to be modded to run on ubuntu
[11:15] <Younder> abhishekpathak, inetd?
[11:15] <abhishekpathak> Younder: i did not get you
[11:15] <abhishekpathak> iceroot: isnt bug no 1 regarding microsoft?
[11:15] <Xecuter> abhishekpathak: wasnt the plan to implement gnome 3 in 11.10?
[11:16] <iceroot> abhishekpathak: yes
[11:16] <abhishekpathak> Xecuter: if anything they are dropping gnome support officially in 11.10
[11:16] <abhishekpathak> iceroot: i do not buy into the microsoft hate thing.They do certain things well for certain kind of people.i dont see a problem with that
[11:17] <Younder> abhishekpathak, ps aux | grep systemd gives only the grep command
[11:17] <iceroot> abhishekpathak: free software is the point
[11:17] <abhishekpathak> iceroot: i use linux because i like it, not because i hate windows.Windows 7 infact is a pretty good product.
[11:17] <iceroot> abhishekpathak: iphone is also a good product but.....
[11:17] <abhishekpathak> iceroot: more than free Software,what draws me to linux is its lego-like customisability
[11:18] <abhishekpathak> iceroot: infinite options
[11:18] <Chrysalid> Sidewinder1: Changing the channel settings seems to be working right now. Thank you for the help. Have a good day everyone
[11:18] <abhishekpathak> iceroot: that is free as in speech is fine.I have no problems paying for good software.
[11:18] <vlt> Hello. Has anyone tried Canonical's Ubuntu Advantage? What does "desktop" mean there? One machine, one user, ...?
[11:18] <iceroot> abhishekpathak: yes free as in free speech is the point, not free as in free beer
[11:19] <iceroot> abhishekpathak: the second is nice but not the reason to use it
[11:19] <abhishekpathak> iceroot: those who feel iphone is great, i have no problems.I use android, and feel a lot restricted in iphone.
[11:19] <Younder> abhishekpathak, I paid for Mathematica and Wing IDE and I am fine with that
[11:19] <abhishekpathak> iceroot: exactly
[11:19] <iceroot> abhishekpathak: the big point is the apple - samsung thing
[11:19] <dmtarmey> anyone had issues with flash????????????????????????????????????????????
[11:19] <iceroot> abhishekpathak: not the product itself
[11:19] <Younder> dmtarmey, works for me
[11:19] <iceroot> abhishekpathak: same for microsoft
[11:20] <iceroot> abhishekpathak: but i think we are getting off topic
[11:20] <abhishekpathak> iceroot: apple,samsung and microsoft all have their own business stategies
[11:20] <dmtarmey> Younder ok what browser us using
[11:20] <meta-coder> Hey abhishekpathak..
[11:20] <Younder> dmtarmey, chromium and firefox
[11:20] <dmtarmey> what versions pls
[11:20] <abhishekpathak> iceroot: as long as they dont force their products down our throat like MS does with pre-installed windows on laptops etc, i have no problems
[11:21] <abhishekpathak> meta-coder: hi
[11:21] <ionite> abhishekpathak: i'm back and i'm now facing a problem with xsane
[11:21] <Younder> dmtarmey, they are always kept up to date.. latest
[11:21] <Tall> can i help me? about programms irc mode text?
[11:21] <dmtarmey> what version of flash you installed pls
[11:22] <abhishekpathak> ionite: Xsane? neva heard of that.let me google
[11:22] <ionite> abhishekpathak: scanning software
[11:22] <Younder> dmtarmey, 12.0.742.112 (90304) Ubuntu 11.04 for Chromium
[11:22] <ionite> abhishekpathak: any other scanning software u recommend?
[11:23] <abhishekpathak> ionite: sorry man.never used a scanner with linux.maybe someone else will be better qualified to answer your question.
[11:23] <Younder> dmtarmey, 6.0.1 for firefox
[11:24] <abhishekpathak> ionite: and dont get discouraged.Scanners DEFINITELY work under ubuntu.yours will too.Its just that i do not have knowledge on that topic.
[11:24] <dmtarmey> ok ill try that i have mazilla pluging or 10 as options in my list
[11:24] <Younder> dmtarmey, http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/flash
[11:24] <obert> none?
[11:24] <ionite> abhishekpathak: it's just frustrating to go to terminal, google for many devices. like my blackberry too
[11:24] <iceroot> abhishekpathak: or software-patents?
[11:24] <dmtarmey> chears
[11:25] <Younder> dmtarmey, Flashplayer 2011
[11:25] <iceroot> ionite: for scanner support visit the sane projekt homepage
[11:25] <abhishekpathak> ionite: you have hardware that _hates_ linux.accepted,hardware compatibility is one of the problems of linux
[11:25] <ionite> abhishekpathak: i don't mind if it's once and for all it fixes it.
[11:26] <abhishekpathak> ionite: that however does not mean that most hardware is unsupported.most hardware works one way or the other.
[11:26] <ionite> abhishekpathak: but sometimes the bugs makes me depart from environment to other environ and i usually prefer a clean installion
[11:26] <abhishekpathak> ionite: cheers.that will indeed be the case.just be a little patient
[11:26] <Younder> abhishekpathak, OHH you probably have 64 bit ubuntu?
[11:26] <abhishekpathak> ionite: the bugs are rarely environment dependent.
[11:26] <abhishekpathak> Younder: no i have a 32-bit laptop
[11:27] <StanleyPTP> ionite: have you visited their maker (scanner) website. My friend uses brother all-in-one. He need the brscan2 from brother.
[11:27] <ionite> abhishekpathak: btw, how do i check out my last 10 commands in terminal?
[11:27] <abhishekpathak> iceroot: what about software patents
[11:27] <abhishekpathak> ionite: keep on pressing the up arrow
[11:27] <ionite> StanleyPTP: yes i know but the problem is that i added to line to my rules.d and it still can't work. it used to work but not now aymore.
[11:27] <iceroot> abhishekpathak: they also force you to do something (or not to do something)
[11:27] <Dr_Willis> ionite:  the history command shows a list.
[11:27] <abhishekpathak> ionite: or type "history" to get a long list
[11:27] <iceroot> ionite: history
[11:27] <dmtarmey> Younder cheers ill try that
[11:28] <MeirD> How can I print the return value of a scp command in the terminal window?
[11:28] <tokam> hello, I accidentaly deleted my ecrypt password.
[11:28] <abhishekpathak> ionite: or press ctrl+r and begin typing.the terminal will check for previous commands from history based on whatever you have typed till then.
[11:28] <tokam> is there a way to recover?
[11:29] <jrib> tokam: no
[11:29] <tokam> ( :D
[11:29] <jrib> tokam: what did you delete exactly?
[11:29] <tokam> mv /home/user /home/user_backup
[11:29] <tokam> mkdir /home/user
[11:30] <tokam> ecryptefs-setup-privet -u user --force
[11:30] <tokam> ****** //that is what I did :)
[11:30] <jrib> tokam: I don't know the specifics of that command
[11:31] <meta-coder> abhishekpathak: In other news, Ind 168/2 (33.2 ovrs)
[11:32] <BluesKaj> hiyas all
[11:32] <Jeanbeaudrillard> hello
[11:32] <abhishekpathak> meta-coder: make that 172/2
[11:32] <meta-coder> abhishekpathak: :)
[11:33] <ionite> abhishekpathak: hwy can't i open RPM files?
[11:33] <Dr_Willis> MeirD:  most shell commands set their return value in a env variable you could print. I cant recall the special variable however. It would be in the bash guides.
[11:33] <ionite> abhishekpathak: http://welcome.solutions.brother.com/bsc/public_s/id/linux/en/download_scn.html
[11:33] <iceroot> ionite: ubuntu is not based on rpm, its based on deb-files. please dont use rpm files
[11:33] <Jeanbeaudrillard> there's a prog to open them i believe
[11:33] <iceroot> Jeanbeaudrillard: alien
[11:33] <auronandace> !packages | ionite
[11:34] <Jeanbeaudrillard> rpm is for redhat mandriva fedora etc
[11:34] <ionite> iceroot: what's RPM for?
[11:34] <iceroot> ionite: red hat package manager
[11:34] <laurus> Does anyone know of a simple GTK or Qt timer application where one can start and stop the timer ticking down with a button press?
[11:34] <Jeanbeaudrillard> it's a  package manager
[11:34] <ionite> iceroot: http://welcome.solutions.brother.com/bsc/public_s/id/linux/en/download_scn.html
[11:34] <Jeanbeaudrillard> yea
[11:34] <ionite> iceroot: but i was given rpm files by my support website.
[11:35] <iceroot> ionite: use the deb-files for ubuntu
[11:35] <StevenR> laurus: I had an alarm app. You might search for it in apt/synaptic
[11:35] <Jeanbeaudrillard> dpgk is way better imo
[11:35] <laurus> StevenR: What was it called?
[11:35] <_viking> .
[11:35] <StevenR> laurus: it also did countdown... I don't remember it's name, but "alarm" as a search string will probably yield it
[11:36] <laurus> Thanks StevenR :)
[11:36] <ionite> iceroot: why can't Xsane work with my scanner? i've already added a line to my rules.d
[11:36] <cristian_c> I've got a keyboard called Media Wireless Desktop by Labtec. I tried to set the keyboard shortcuts directly from the Applications-> Settings-> Xfce4 settings manager -> Keyboard-> Applications shortcuts. I clicked on Add and for example I typed the command 'evolution'. I pressed Ok and then the system asked me to type the key on the keyboard. In this case the key was correctly recognized as XF86Mail and has been i
[11:36] <cristian_c> ncluded in the list of shortcuts. But if I press the mail key, it always happens the same problem, that instead of opening evolution, the pc goes into stand-by. Is anyone able to understand what the problem is due? I even tried keytouch editor and it recognized the keys. But after setting up the keyboard with keytouch, if I press the 'mail' key, the PC goes always on standby for no reason
[11:36] <iceroot> ionite: depending on the scanner, normally you just need the driver
[11:36] <Jeanbeaudrillard> must be a driver prob
[11:37] <StevenR> laurus: a quick search suggests "alarm-clock"
[11:37] <_viking> i am trying to get my canon printer to work, but there is no info on the web about it
[11:37] <_viking> it is a scanner, fax, photo printer, printer, cd printer
[11:37] <ionite> iceroot: i get this xsane failed to open device invalid argument
[11:37] <Jeanbeaudrillard> i just plug my printer and it automaticly install the correct driver
[11:37] <ionite> iceroot: i remember some weeks ago i added a line in my rules.d and it work.
[11:38] <Dr_Willis> _viking:  canon often has very poor or no linux support for many of their printers.
[11:38] <_viking> dr_willis why is that, can't ubuntu sort that out
[11:38] <_viking> canon makes the best printers
[11:38] <laurus> StevenR: Yes I just installed that but it doesn't seem to have any stopwatch feature.
[11:39] <Dr_Willis> _viking:  it has nothing to do with ubuntu.. canon is the one not supporting the os.. and personally i will never buy canon again. i find theur printers and devices to be .. well.. junk.
[11:39] <StevenR> cristian_c: sounds like there may be an existing keyboard shortcut defined.
[11:39] <Dr_Willis> _viking:  if canon wont release the specs.. linux driver makers cant do much except try to reverse engineere things.
[11:40] <_viking> dr_willis i understand the point about canon not supporting free software, but there is no way in hell you can call anything made by canon junk
[11:40] <_viking> they make the BEST printers and cameras
[11:40] <cristian_c> StevenR, thanks for your answer. How can I discover it?
[11:40] <laurus> _viking, yeah I agree. Can you switch printers though?
[11:40] <Dr_Willis> _viking:  I can call the canon printer i have junk..  its now sitting in the closet....
[11:40] <Dr_Willis> I will stick to my Brother brand printer for a long time.
[11:41] <_viking> laurus luckily the printer has an lcd screen and can print form a flash drive, so i dont really need to connect it to a computer
[11:41] <laurus> _viking, I recommend Brother printers if you want a GNU/Linux compatible printer.
[11:41] <laurus> _viking, oh well there yo go :9
[11:41] <laurus> :)
[11:42] <Dr_Willis> problem solved. :)
[11:43] <Jeanbeaudrillard> good then :)
[11:44] <samuelsapps> for cannon printer you must some extra effort to find the driver for linux, my friend have experience that he once find canon printer, he find it on canon europe website
[11:44] <Dr_Willis> samuelsapps:  if the driver even exists. took over a year for the linux driver for my canon to even   get released. :) then it dident work right.
[11:45] <Dr_Willis> then the printer broke...
[11:46] <enrry> anyone knows how to make flash player point to pulseaudio?
[11:47] <_viking> i don't like sikhs abinav_singh you towel headed bastard
[11:47] <45PAAKZ56> hi all
[11:47] <Gentoo64> hi
[11:47] <BlackScop1> i have problems with ubuntu since update
[11:48] <Jeanbeaudrillard> hello there !!
[11:48] <BlackScop1> the new linux headers was installed and now i cannot boot
[11:48] <samuelsapps> first i'm not from canon guy :D, my friend have experience with canon iR2016 i don't know if this type old type, sorry my english bad
[11:48] <BlackScop1> i see first the plymouth and after this i have just black screen
[11:48] <_viking> abhinav_singh, i bet your greasy yellow jaundice looking skin smells like curry and foul sweat
[11:49] <Jeanbeaudrillard> lol
[11:49] <Dr_Willis> Hmm...
[11:50] <theadmin> _viking: That was rather rude.
[11:50] <_viking> oh, sorry about that
[11:50] <dpy> hi guys
[11:50] <Jeanbeaudrillard> this is a multicultural channel :)
[11:51] <meta-coder> I was disconnected. Please reply again. I want the generic drivers for connecting ADSL modem via USB to Ubuntu 11. Please help.
[11:52] <_viking> multicultural: look at fbi race statistics on crime. look at the ten most wanted in the usa, canada, and the uk. most of them are not caucasian. then look where i live, zimbabwe, where as a white who built the country, i get blamed for all the problems, and then they steal our farms and buisinesses and called it "indiginisation"
[11:52] <dpy> I'm trying to open a backed up file containing an aes-256 encrypted ext2 filesystem (it was created years ago using cryptoloop). But now It seems that ubuntu doesn't come with the aes-256 kernel module anymore... Does anyone know an easy route for getting the aes-256 kernel module?  (Without compiling my own kernel, please)
[11:52] <Gentoo64> _viking, where are you from?
[11:52] <Dr_Willis> generic drivers? I imagine they would be included by default meta-coder .
[11:53] <Jeanbeaudrillard> _viking, i understand i from france btw
[11:53] <_viking> gentoo64 zimbabwe
[11:53] <_viking> used to be rhodesia
[11:53] <Gentoo64> no seriously
[11:53] <Myrtti> !offtopic
[11:53] <oCean> _viking: please behave
[11:53] <meta-coder> Dr_Willis: Ubuntu doesn't properly work with the modem. What driviers should I try?
[11:53] <Dr_Willis> dpy:  well an old ubuntu live-cd  might  be of some help.    in theory if the module is  still in the kernel code. you could just recompile the kernel module. not the whole kernel.
[11:53] <Gentoo64> i remember getting banned from here for saying "u" instead of "you"
[11:54] <Jeanbeaudrillard> mUgabe must love linux haha
[11:54] <Dr_Willis> meta-coder:  no idea.  Ive never needed a driver for my cable modem. but ive never used asdl.
[11:54] <Dr_Willis> !asdl
[11:54] <Dr_Willis> !adsl
[11:54] <dpy> Dr_Willis: is there a reason for there to still be a aes kernel module (128) and not a 256?     Maybe it was never put in because it may be illegal in some countries?
[11:54] <Gentoo64> meta-coder, does it have a usb and ethernet port?
[11:55] <dpy> Dr_Willis: I was hoping to hear that I just need an extra repo, and apt-get install something
[11:55] <Dr_Willis> dpy:  no idea. - ive never really gotten into disk/file encryption.
[11:55] <Dr_Willis> dpy:  when in doubt check the forums and askubuntu.com - there maybe some easy work around.
[11:56] <improveupon> firefox keeps crashing my os. i have 4 gb of memory. when it crashes, the system cannot detect a hard drive and you have to manually cold boot & then it is fine. i will paste the error messages (which i had to copy by hand) if you send me that url for pasting.
[11:57] <_vikingSUPERBADL> _viking
[11:57] <OerHeks> !paste
[11:57] <Jeanbeaudrillard> improveupon, hi there what version do u have ?
[11:57] <improveupon> thanks again to those of you provinding support
[11:57] <Jeanbeaudrillard> i have 3.6.21
[11:58] <Gentoo64> improveupon, try deleting the ff profile
[11:58] <Lasers> I have been entrusted with an important USB stick. It seems to be broken or corrupted. I plugged in. "fdisk -l" revealed nothing. What else can I possibly do?
[11:58] <Gentoo64> dno why itd crash the whole sys
[11:58] <improveupon> my version of firefox is whatever is in the ubuntu repositories
[11:58] <Dr_Willis> I would wonder if its not a hard drive issue  causing FF and the os to trcah...
[11:58] <Dr_Willis> crash..
[11:59] <OerHeks> or memory ..
[11:59] <Lasers> improveupon: Use chromium. Firefox is bloated. ;<   But don't let that stop you.
[11:59] <Jeanbeaudrillard> ok i see must be some o the latest then cuz there is like bunch o them (firefox 6 7 and even nightly 8 )
[11:59] <StevenR> Lasers: do you get a device node? what does dmesg show for the usb device? (pastebin the relevant dmesg info please)
[11:59] <Jeanbeaudrillard> what about opera it works well on linux
[11:59] <improveupon> i have already purged firefox, deleted ~/.mozilla, and reinstalled it. note: before i did that it would crash like this as soon as i started firefox. now it takes a while.
[11:59] <Lasers> StevenR: Okay. Hold on.
[11:59] <Jeanbeaudrillard> and u can use adblock 2
[12:00] <improveupon> but it is not because firefox is hogging memory. i want to diagnose this. i will paste the error messages...
[12:00] <Jeanbeaudrillard> try installing a version from the firefox site and not the repositories one
[12:00] <antonio_> ciao a tt
[12:00] <_vikingLAG> why does the update manager prompt me to install updates when $ apt-get update ; apt-get upgrade says my system is up to date
[12:00] <_vikingLAG> ?
[12:00] <codemagician> I bought a logitech M305 mouse and its way too sensitive in Ubuntu 11.04.. any suggestions?
[12:01] <Gentoo64> codemagician, yes, turn the sens down
[12:01] <improveupon> also note: windows vista is dual-booting on the same machine and it never crashes
[12:01] <Myrtti> _vikingLAG: because upgrade doesn't upgrade all the packages
[12:01] <improveupon> except for the usual windows issues
[12:01] <Myrtti> _vikingLAG: (necessarily)
[12:01] <codemagician> Gentoo64, even with it down to near zero its stupid
[12:01] <Jeanbeaudrillard> ciao signore
[12:01] <Myrtti> !it | antonio_
[12:01] <Gentoo64> codemagician, try typing xset m 0 0 in the terminal
[12:02] <improveupon> smart data shows hd health at 98% (admittedly i do not know what that means)
[12:02] <Jeanbeaudrillard> ou est le channel francais ?
[12:02] <Myrtti> !fr > Jeanbeaudrillard
[12:02] <_vikingLAG> Myrtti but when i use both apt and then the update manager, it breaks, packages return errors trying to install
[12:02] <improveupon> it should not be a hard drive issue. i thought it was for a while
[12:02] <_vikingLAG> i guess it means just use one or the other?
[12:02] <codemagician> Gentoo64, nothing apparently changed
[12:02] <Jeanbeaudrillard> Myrtti, great tx !!
[12:02] <Gentoo64> improveupon, it means nothing. i know people who have had 1% health running without errors for years
[12:02] <luite> improveupon: hmm, percentages don't mean much
[12:02] <Dr_Willis> improveupon:  windows could be reading from the 'good' parts of the hd.. while linux maybe on a part with failing sectors.. so thats not really proof.. You Could ssh into the box and watch the kernel logs  while its running and hope to catch why its crashing. You could test with differnt browsert to try to prove its a ff issue.
[12:03] <Jeanbeaudrillard> !lol
[12:03] <bjhaid> please how do i open .vsd files in ubuntu?
[12:03] <_vikingLAG> Myrtti if i am just using apt-get upgrade will my system be secure?
[12:03] <luite> improveupon: but you can check the data for read errors or reallocated sectors.
[12:03] <Gentoo64> _vikingLAG, why not use the gui
[12:03] <BluesKaj> _vikingLAG, the update manager isn't reliable in my experience , best to stick with the command line
[12:03] <_vikingLAG> Gentoo64 apt gives accurate download speeds and time
[12:04] <Jeanbeaudrillard> never had prob with it though
[12:04] <StevenR> bjhaid: Visio? You could run visio with wine, otherwise you're probably out of luck.
[12:04] <StevenR> bjhaid: alternatively, convert the files to PDF with visio and view those? (or ask the sender to do so)
[12:04] <Jeanbeaudrillard> !!what
[12:05] <Fudge> _vi king lag i just do not know
[12:05] <Lasers> StevenR: http://pastebin.com/8c8VEGuf
[12:05] <bjhaid> StevenR: really not too cool with wine, switched to windows though, but think there should be a linux alternative
[12:05] <Tinti> Hello, I have just done an applet called "rebootin" for gnome-panel in python
[12:05] <Onlyodin> bjhaid, +1 for wine & visio here
[12:05] <StevenR> bjhaid: well, time to write one then.
[12:05] <Lasers> StevenR: The USB stick is only 2GB. It does not show up on any Linux or Mac system. Ho ho.
[12:05] <_vikingLAG> Fudge i bet i'd kick the hell out of you in a scrap
[12:05] <_vikingLAG> sorry to say
[12:06] <Fudge> _vikingLAG  dude i agree, ill leave the scraps to you
[12:06] <oCean> !coc | _vikingLAG Please have a read of our Code of Conduct.
[12:06] <Tinti> The aim of this app is to chose in which operating system you would like to boot. Do anybody else want it? I really would like to improve it.
[12:06] <_vikingLAG> Fudge i am a mixed martial arts fighter, the only scraps left will be your teeth crawling out of your arse hole
[12:07] <codemagician> any suggestions for a mouse that's way too sensitive even on the lowest settings in Ubuntu 11.04?
[12:07] <Jasef> Ooh. So happy to be on XChat instead of Empathy... it sucks as an IRC client. Is there an ubuntu channel around for chat instead of support?
[12:07] <Jeanbeaudrillard> that indian dude just PM me lol
[12:07] <Lasers> Tinti: Any experience with linux? Zero. Ubuntu. That's it.
[12:07] <jamiewan>  _vikingLAG i'd kick the shit out of u wanker piss off
[12:07] <Gentoo64> _vikingLAG, your just a weedy little boy behind a keyboard
[12:07] <oCean> jamiewan: stop it please
[12:07] <Jeanbeaudrillard> you can talk to me here singh
[12:07] <oCean> _vikingLAG: please drop the offtopic
[12:07] <Lasers> Jasef: #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:07] <Jeanbeaudrillard> why in private ?
[12:07] <_vikingLAG> lol, sorry for being a keyboard warrier, i'll leave the fights to the ring
[12:07] <Dr_Willis> Tinti:  ive seen similer features. :) just never noticed it on ubuntu. Grub2 has a command line way to set it.
[12:08] <BluesKaj> _vikingLAG, you think you're some kind of tough guy , easy to brag in a chat channel where you don't have to backup your BS
[12:08] <Lasers> Tinti: Nevermind. I misread your statement. ;X
[12:08] <Jasef> Lasers: ty :)
[12:08] <oCean> BluesKaj: please don't continue that
[12:08] <codemagician> some help me with my mouse?
[12:08]  * nnull walks into the chatroom with a taser
[12:09] <codemagician> M305 logitech
[12:09] <panda> what's up
[12:09] <codemagician> wireless mouse super sensitive
[12:09] <Gentoo64> codemagician, not sure why the sens sliders not doing anything
[12:09] <StevenR> Lasers: I don't see it in there. Does it create a device node?
[12:09] <Jeanbeaudrillard> hehe
[12:09] <oCean> Jeanbeaudrillard: stop that immediately
[12:09] <Fudge> oCean  i think the problem may actually be viking and not the people who are commenting on his behaviour
[12:09] <Gentoo64> codemagician, does the sens slider make any difference at all?
[12:09] <Jeanbeaudrillard> sorry there
[12:09] <BluesKaj> oCean, wel, it had to be said ..the guy's BS has been tolersted in here long enough, no one took him to task for his racial remarks earlier ...and you're picking on me ?
[12:09] <_vikingLAG> BluesKaj i was deported back to zimbabwe from vancouver, canada for "serious and organized criminality" for drugs and firearms offences. google "united nations gang vancouver"
[12:09] <jamiewan> oCean: why hasn't that fool been tossed out yet?
[12:09] <Gentoo64> no admins in i take it?
[12:09] <codemagician> Gentoo64, they are, but the top end it sooo fast
[12:10] <panda``> hey
[12:10] <Lasers> StevenR: That's it. The USB is probably dead. I wanted to know how I can recover anything that's on it. It powered up briefly when plugged. It's damaged or corrupted or EOL, etc.
[12:10] <Jeanbeaudrillard> i just tried a irc command nothing to worry
[12:10]  * Fudge claps and roars
[12:10] <panda``> you know the top right hand toolbar
[12:10] <oCean> now, please move on
[12:10] <panda``> the one with the sound icon
[12:10] <panda``> mail
[12:10] <panda``> etc
[12:10] <Gentoo64> codemagician, hang on
[12:10] <panda``> what's that called?
[12:10] <FloodBot1> panda``: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:10] <Gentoo64> codemagician, is there a high dpi on the mouse?
[12:10]  * Fudge moves to the bottom of the channel
[12:10] <Onlyodin> panda``, indicator panel
[12:10] <theadmin> panda``: "Indicator Applet", I beleive
[12:10] <Lasers> StevenR: I'm just seeing to see if I can recover something out of it. If not, I'll tell her "Whoops. Sorry, I can't do anything. I tried."
[12:10] <codemagician> Gentoo64, i chose this mouse as its got a standard laser
[12:10] <codemagician> Gentoo64, I had trouble with the high dpi ones
[12:10] <Onlyodin> or Indicator Applet, that's good too.
[12:10] <Dr_Willis> Lasers:  theres the ddrescue tool. that mightbe able to recover stuff..
[12:11] <codemagician> Gentoo64, but I have a feeling I may have set some settings on this machine a long time ago
[12:11] <Lasers> Dr_Willis: Yes. -- but "fdisk -l" does not register it.
[12:11] <codemagician> Gentoo64, from the command line
[12:11] <Gentoo64> codemagician, not sure then. the sens slider set to bottom should be lowest sens for your dpi. you can use xset or xinput to disable the accel completely but that didnt help you either
[12:11] <Gentoo64> so no idea :s
[12:11] <StevenR> Lasers: well, you could check it physically. If it's been flexed/bent, then the pins might be able to be resoldered. The most stressed part of a usb stick is where the usb connector joins the circuit board. Unfortunately, this is also the weakest part of most usb sticks
[12:11] <Dr_Willis> Lasers:   then you mightbe out of luck. You could try tricks like sticking it in the freezer for a hr.... and so on.. :) but this is a usb FLASH or a usb HARD drive?
[12:11] <codemagician> its going screwy now also
[12:12] <codemagician> the pointer keep jumping
[12:12] <theadmin> Lasers: That'd be "sudo fdisk -l" unless you are root. I hope you are aware of that.
[12:12] <Lasers> Dr_Willis: USB Flash Drive.
[12:12] <nnull> i like turtles
[12:12] <theadmin> codemagician: Does it work on any other OSes?
[12:12] <improveupon> i have now pasted the error messages from firefox; again, they were copied by hand: http://paste.ubuntu.com/681157/
[12:12] <oCean> nnull: do you have a support question?
[12:12] <codemagician> theadmin, yes works fine on my windows xp doorstop
[12:12] <Lasers> theadmin: Yes, I'm aware of it. Just saving few letters. :P
[12:13] <theadmin> nnull: So we herd you like turtles so we put a turtle in your turtle so you can chat while you #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:13] <panda``> how do I make a program start of Start up
[12:13] <panda``> Evolution Mail to be exact
[12:13] <theadmin> nnull: For short, please use #ubuntu-offtopic for non-support questions
[12:13] <theadmin> panda``: System -> Preferences -> Startup Applications
[12:13] <panda``> thanks :)
[12:13] <codemagician> it there a way to revert to the standard ubuntu xinput settings for the ouse
[12:14] <Gentoo64> codemagician, they dont stick
[12:14] <Lasers> StevenR: Common Black USB -- SanDisk Cruzer with that annoying U3 crap. It seems to be in excellent shape. No signs of scratches or bent metal.
[12:14] <Gentoo64> codemagician, unless set mnaually at startup
[12:15] <codemagician> Gentoo64, the whole mouse behaves jittery and jumpy with super acceleration
[12:15] <StevenR> Lasers: can you find a pic online of it?
[12:15] <codemagician> but on windows xp its sweet
[12:16] <StevenR> Lasers: I've broken a lot of usb sticks apart to do data recovery (one of the "magic" parts of a previous job being a school sysadmin)
[12:16] <Gentoo64> codemagician, xset m 0 0 and the sens slider to the bottom really should take all the speed and accel off. no idea what else to suggest :s
[12:16] <Lasers> StevenR: http://goo.gl/lVUgC -- I'm putting it in a freezer. :3
[12:17] <Gentoo64> codemagician, have you got another mouse to try in ubuntu? only thing i can htink of it that its wireless...
[12:17] <codemagician> Gentoo64, this mouse is wireless. my dell wired mouse works fine.
[12:17] <Lasers> codemagician: Mouse Preference? Change that?
[12:18] <codemagician> Gentoo64, there is another issue. the pointer jumps and reappears on the screen
[12:18] <Gentoo64> codemagician, then its something with the mouse, not uubntu settings. i reckon its something to do with wireless, its always inferior
[12:18] <StevenR> Lasers: putting it in a freezer won't help you.
[12:18] <panda``> hmmm
[12:18] <StevenR> Lasers: however, you could open it up. If it's dead, you've nothing to lose.
[12:18] <codemagician> Gentoo64, you think another person with a wireless mouse?
[12:19] <Lasers> StevenR: I'll need permissions to do so. Okay. Supposedly I open it up, what's the next step? Outline them all, please.
[12:19] <codemagician> Gentoo64, but it works fine on my windows xp
[12:19] <Gentoo64> codemagician, i cant see why its happening. wireless mosue should work fine..
[12:19] <meta-coder> Where are the C libraries saved in Ubuntu?
[12:19] <codemagician> Gentoo64, in ubuntu it skips and keeps reappears ten miles left
[12:19] <Gentoo64> codemagician, are you on 11.04? using classic?
[12:20] <codemagician> Gentoo64, using 11.04 with gnome desktop
[12:20] <Gentoo64> codemagician, unity?
[12:20] <codemagician> Gentoo64, i switch off unity
[12:20] <Gentoo64> ok i was gona say rule that out
[12:20] <Gentoo64> lol
[12:20] <improveupon> if anyone just entering would be interested in hearing about my firefox situation (system detects no hard drive!) and seeing the error messages please say so, and thanks again
[12:20] <Gentoo64> codemagician, does dmesg say anything regarding the mouse?
[12:22] <StevenR> Lasers: basically, the usb connector attaches to the little circuit board with 4 pins. you're looking for signs that those might be damaged, or electrical connectivity lost. You could also try holding it in a usb port at a flexed angle and seeing if that helps. I've re-soldered usb sticks.
[12:22] <kanha> how to move to past state of a file using bazaar
[12:22] <codemagician> i wonder if it's the mouse battery
[12:22] <Angela> how to get started with bug fixing
[12:22] <panda_> yo
[12:23] <panda_> can I force a program to start up minimised?
[12:23] <StevenR> Lasers: but if it's not detected by the system, then your only option is a physical inspection/resolder/holding. If that doesn't work, then the chip is probably dead.
[12:23] <theadmin> panda_: Maybe if your window manager has a way to do something like that
[12:23] <Gentoo64> codemagician, couldwell be!
[12:24] <StevenR> Lasers: and unfortunately, if the chip is dead, your friend gets to learn a tough lesson :(
[12:24] <matrixiumn> hello
[12:24] <matrixiumn> which is best ubuntu or mint?
[12:24] <theadmin> matrixiumn: Look, you are in #ubuntu.
[12:24] <theadmin> matrixiumn: What do you expect us to answer?
[12:24] <Myrtti> matrixiumn: this is an Ubuntu channel, what do you expect us to answer?
[12:24] <theadmin> matrixiumn: I myself would answer "Mint", but most would say Ubuntu here
[12:24] <Jeanbeaudrillard> mint by far
[12:24] <matrixiumn> THERE IS NO MINT CHANNEL
[12:24] <BluesKaj> !polls | matrixiumn
[12:24] <nmepntgrm> is there a stable version of gnome 3 for lucid?
[12:24] <Lasers> StevenR: I plugged it in. It went on for a second. Is that an indicator of working power? Also, did you see line #501? That may indicate something. Yeah. I think she save everything on USB -- and does not know that it have short span life. DUnno.
[12:25] <matrixiumn> AHH
[12:25] <Jeanbeaudrillard> mint is more user friendly
[12:25] <matrixiumn> sorry for caps
[12:25] <theadmin> !mintsupport | matrixiumn
[12:25] <Onlyodin> matrixiumn, slackware.
[12:25] <kanha> angel:i think you should try bazzar tutorial for bug fixing....
[12:25] <StevenR> Lasers: line 501 of what?
[12:25] <matrixiumn> ok sorry
[12:25] <Lasers> StevenR: The pastebin result.
[12:25] <Lasers> StevenR: [825599.062305] SLUB: Unable to allocate memory on node -1 (gfp=0x20)
[12:25] <matrixiumn> and i'm not going to start a poll here
[12:26] <Lasers> matrixiumn: Either! That's my answer!
[12:26] <nmepntgrm> is there a stable version of gnome 3 for lucid?
[12:26] <theadmin> Onlyodin: That's not a proper possible output of "ubuntu ? ubuntu : mint"
[12:26] <theadmin> nmepntgrm: No.
[12:26] <matrixiumn> ok
[12:26] <matrixiumn> thanks
[12:26] <Lasers> nmepntgrm: No. Lucid is LTS. Stable. Gnome3 isn't stable.
[12:27] <nmepntgrm> ok ill stick with my current
[12:27] <ionite> what scanning software can i use?
[12:27] <ionite> i need it to be compatible to my brother scanner.
[12:27] <Onlyodin> Yeah, stable gnome3 is an oxymoron.
[12:27] <Jeanbeaudrillard> ionite, Xscan ?
[12:27] <Angela> kanha:ya sure
[12:28] <ionite> Jeanbeaudrillard: what's the different from Xsane?
[12:28] <StevenR> Lasers: not sure what that means
[12:28] <Jeanbeaudrillard> oh sorry i made a typo i wanted to wrote xsane
[12:28] <ska> rnet.org
[12:28] <kanha> angela:best of luck :)
[12:28] <Sebdraven> yop
[12:28] <StevenR> Lasers: working power means two of the pins work. There are still two data pins that may, or may not, work.
[12:29] <Jeanbeaudrillard> don't know other scan apps though :s
[12:30] <Lasers> StevenR: Me either. Well, I'll ask since it seems like a total loss. To be honest, the USB stick looks perfect and intact. I can look inside the stick and look at an angle. :)
[12:31] <devish> !skye
[12:31] <devish> !skype
[12:33] <anadon> hey, how do I tell 'make' to use multiple threads?
[12:34] <theadmin> anadon: make -j5 (where 5=number of those thingies) I beleive
[12:34] <psycho_oreos> threads?
[12:34] <anadon> thanks
[12:35] <anadon> will that setting stay?
[12:35] <Onlyodin> nope
[12:35] <psycho_oreos> doubt it, not unless you may set env varible or something like that
[12:35] <anadon> how do I get it to stay?  I know in gentoo there was some setting to set it permenently
[12:36] <Onlyodin> gentoo compiles significantly more software too
[12:36] <theadmin> anadon: I know, yeah, MAKEOPTS
[12:36] <theadmin> anadon: I think you can set that environment variable in your .bashrc here, not sure though
[12:36] <anadon> is that just a hidden file in my home?
[12:36] <theadmin> anadon: Yep
[12:37] <theadmin> anadon: If that won't work, in the same place do: alias make="make -j5"
[12:37] <theadmin> That's a stupid solution, naturally, but hey
[12:38] <panda_> theadmin, what ubuntu version do you use
[12:38] <panda_> I'm thinking of using GLX-dock
[12:38] <anadon> I'm not seeing a setting in the file.  Do I just enter 'make -j9'?
[12:38] <Tinti> Here the links for the reboot in: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/193872/applet.py  http://dl.dropbox.com/u/193872/GNOME_PythonAppletSample.server
[12:38] <antonio_> iao
[12:38] <antonio_> ciao
[12:38] <panda_> would you reccomend deviating from the stock standard bar?
[12:38] <theadmin> anadon: That's just a bash script... At the end of a file, type: export MAKEOPTS='-j9'
[12:39] <theadmin> panda_: I don't use Ubuntu.
[12:39] <panda_> what do you use?
[12:39] <theadmin> panda_: Arch
[12:39] <panda_> ok
[12:39] <panda_> what do you prefer in Arch over ubuntu?
[12:40] <anadon> CONTROL
[12:40] <anadon> ...sorry
[12:40] <theadmin> panda_: It's offtopic in this channel, but... http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/The_Arch_Way ;)
[12:40] <theadmin> anadon: Yep :)
[12:40] <anadon> I'm running into the same issue.  If I had more time to manage my machine, I'd add arch
[12:41] <do0> hi
[12:41] <techglo> hello
[12:41] <do0> how can i resize the desktop panel please? where is the configuration file?
[12:41] <techglo> i want to know abt Android with Ubuntu platform ..?
[12:42] <anadon> theadmin: I think its going faster and the fans are running, thanks!
[12:42] <panda_> sounds very technical theadmin
[12:42] <Stanley00> do0: which ubuntu version do you use?
[12:42] <do0> Stanley00, 10.4
[12:43] <Stanley00> do0: try right click and click settings or something like that?
[12:43] <nmepntgrm> do0, resizing is in properties when you right click the oanel
[12:43] <nmepntgrm> *panel
[12:44] <do0> Stanley00, Just i like to know where the configuration file
[12:44] <Stanley00> do0: I think it is somewhere in gconf tools...
[12:45] <zsh_> da jia hao a
[12:46] <theadmin> panda_: It is, it doesn't even come with a GUI :P
[12:46] <dmtarmey> hello iv got he following error can anyone tell me what to do  W:GPG error: http://packages.medibuntu.org natty InRelease: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 2EBC26B60C5A2783, W:Failed to fetch cdrom://Ubuntu 11.04 _Natty Narwhal_ - Release i386 (20110427.1)/kubuntu/dists/natty/main/binary-i386/Packages  Please use apt-cdrom to make this CD-ROM recognized by APT. apt-get update cannot be used
[12:46] <dmtarmey>  to add new CD-ROMs
[12:46] <dmtarmey> , E:Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[12:46] <panda_> :o
[12:46] <theadmin> panda_: You just have to have good knowledge to run it. Let's get back on topic.
[12:46] <panda_> theadmin, badass
[12:46] <panda_> true
[12:47] <Myrtti> dmtarmey: 1) you need to add the gpg key of medibuntu repo, 2) insert the installation disc in to the cd drive OR remove the cd from software sources.
[12:47] <xangua> dmtarmeyadd the nedibuntu key
[12:47] <xangua> the medibuntu site says how
[12:48] <dmtarmey> Myritti cheers any idea were i can find info on that?
[12:48] <onyeex> MANISH
[12:49] <onyeex> HEY
[12:49] <theadmin> !caps | onyeex
[12:49] <onyeex> ONYEEX 4
[12:50] <onyeex> HEY ANY ONE IN THER
[12:50] <Myrtti> onyeex: NO, stop shouting.
[12:50] <panda_> WOAH
[12:50] <onyeex> RAJ
[12:51] <Myrtti> dmtarmey: the instructions for the gpg key are on the medibuntu site, as xangua said. the CD can removed by ticking a box (as far as I recall) in the Software Sources
[12:52] <codemagician> how to I make a screen recording with audio ?
[12:54] <panda_> ok
[12:54] <panda_> so the default GUI
[12:54] <panda_> the Launcher
[12:54] <panda_> etc
[12:54] <panda_> how do I get rid of that
[12:54] <panda_> I want to try out some different docks etc
[12:54] <Johnny_Giggles> Can you install programs onto a liveCD that is running entirely from RAM?  (ie not from hard disk)
[12:54] <xangua> !classic | panda_
[12:55] <panda_> cool, thanks
[12:55] <DrPenguin> Hello there.. Currently I am running Ubuntu 11.04 64bit, I am trying to get my CPU into a happy running state (govenors all setup and what not) and I notice a few things.. even if I use cpufreq--selector to set C0 to ondemand, it constantly runs at 2.54ghz. Also.. my C3 is highlighted in this way: Avg residency 3.2ms (79.2%) with (frequencies) of 98.1%.. is this a bad thing?
[12:56] <carrera> Greetings! :)
[12:59] <anadon> DrPenguin:  what processor do you have?
[13:00] <anadon> DrPenguin:
[13:00] <DrPenguin> intel i5-480M I believe
[13:00] <StevenR> DrPenguin: cat /proc/cpuinfo will tell you
[13:00] <anadon> DrPenguin: that model does not change frequency
[13:00] <DrPenguin> M 460 actually
[13:00] <anadon> you need a intel i7, or 2nd gen i5 or i7
[13:01] <StevenR> anadon: really? my i3 changes frequency
[13:01] <anadon> StevenR: : is it 2nd gen?
[13:01] <StevenR> anadon: I'm not sure. It was new in January, if that's any guide.
[13:01] <anadon> StevenR: its 2nd gen
[13:02] <Besogon> hey! Does anyone know how to give permission for a user to run a program as an another user? I need "sudo -u #33 -g #33 vim file
[13:03] <DrPenguin> I know my CPU can change frequencies, I have done it on Arch Linux
[13:03] <Besogon> It don't allow me to do so
[13:03] <Gentoo64> DrPenguin, do you mean when its idle?
[13:04] <DrPenguin> Gentoo64: just in general. I like to have my cores on ondemand
[13:04] <anadon> O SHIT: http://kernel.org/ got comprimised
[13:04] <Gentoo64> old news
[13:04] <anadon> new to me!
[13:04] <jaber> mozer foker
[13:04] <jaber> :)
[13:04] <Gentoo64> its all fine
[13:04] <IdleOne> !language
[13:05] <jaber> !language
[13:05] <jaber> !kick IdleOne
[13:05] <ktwohig9> howdy folks
[13:05] <jaber> :p
[13:06] <carrera> My Toshiba Qosmio x505, with  NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460M, keeps hanging with 11.04. It didn't do that with 10.04. Any ideas will be much appreciated
[13:06] <StevenR> Besogon: you need to edit your sudoers file with visudo (there may be a gui editor thing, but I don't know about that)
[13:06] <jaber> gtx 460m for loosers
[13:06] <jaber> :D
[13:06] <Besogon> StevenR, thanks
[13:06] <michaelxq> i'm having problems with my camera. I know i have to install r5u8xx but i don't know how
[13:07] <jaber> niarf
[13:07] <Lucapunk> eccomi
[13:07] <Lucapunk> ciao a tutti
[13:07] <michaelxq> i'm having problems with my camera. I know i have to install r5u8xx but i don't know how and where to find it to be exact
[13:07] <jaber> :-x
[13:07] <szal> !it | Lucapunk
[13:08] <shinsuke> hi. can a 64 bit cpu use a 32 bit ubuntu without any disadvantages? thanks.
[13:08] <Gentoo64> yes
[13:09] <StevenR> shinsuke: how much RAM?
[13:09] <shinsuke> StevenR, 4 gb
[13:09] <Gentoo64> use 64 bit
[13:09] <Gentoo64> why not?
[13:09] <StevenR> shinsuke: use 64bit Ubuntu
[13:09] <szal> shinsuke: then be sure to install the PAE kernel when using 32bit
[13:10] <dmtarmey> Myritti thankyou iv sorted it, i still have original problem i can not get flash to play what ever i do.
[13:10] <panda> hi
[13:10] <panda> that Notification Bar
[13:10] <Guest22055> how can I edit what it shows
[13:10] <Guest22055> what buttons activate what
[13:10] <Guest22055> etc
[13:10] <shinsuke> i needed partimage on a live boot cd which is only available under 32 bit. but when i wanted to install it is was not in synaptic.
[13:10] <agustin> hello
[13:11] <shinsuke> so i just wondered if my 64 bit cpu caused the absence of the software in synaptic
[13:11] <Gentoo64> shinsuke, ive never used that, what about clonezilla?
[13:12] <anadon> How does a package manager scan for other package dependancies?
[13:12] <anadon> *dependencies?
[13:12] <szal> anadon: define 'other'
[13:12] <shinsuke> Gentoo64, i want to save encrypted partitions which is a problem with clonezilla
[13:12] <Johnny_Giggles> If I am running a liveCD, or a liveUSB that has no persistent storage allocation, can I nevertheless install programs and use them?  (Obviously they will be lost when I shutdown the computer)
[13:12] <anadon> other required packages/programs/libraries in order to install and run
[13:13] <szal> other in relation to what?
[13:13] <StevenR> Johnny_Giggles: no
[13:13] <Gentoo64> szal, in relation to the original package
[13:13] <anadon> szal: really?
[13:13] <StevenR> Johnny_Giggles: where would the programs install to? Actually, if you have enough ram it might work... time to try it :)
[13:13] <carrera> Can anyone tell me why My Toshiba Qosmio x505 keeps hanging with 11.04?  It didn't do that with 10.04.
[13:13] <Gentoo64> Johnny_Giggles, they install to ram yes it works
[13:13] <michaelxq> i'm having problems with my camera. I know i have to install r5u8xx but i don't know how and where to find it to be exact
[13:13]  * szal doesn't see the use of the word 'other' in that sentence
[13:13] <Johnny_Giggles> StevenR: Well, it installs to RAM
[13:14] <Johnny_Giggles> Gentoo64: can you confirm 100% that it works?
[13:14] <StevenR> Johnny_Giggles: try it and see?
[13:14] <szal> anadon: the package dependencies are listed in the package
[13:14] <anadon> carrera: make a bug report
[13:14] <abandersnatch> so, is the next ubuntu going to have a regular application list like every other sane interface ever? Or are they going to keep this "touch friendly" stuff?
[13:14] <Gentoo64> Johnny_Giggles, yes. anything that dont require a reboot works
[13:14] <anadon> szal: they may not be right.  any way to do it dynamically?
[13:14] <StevenR> Johnny_Giggles: this assumes you have enough RAM to do that of course.
[13:14] <Gentoo64> Johnny_Giggles, you're already writing stuff to ram as you use the livecd. installing things isnt any different
[13:14] <szal> anadon: if they're not right, then file a bug
[13:15] <Johnny_Giggles> StevenR: I have 4 gigs
[13:15] <anadon> where are they in the source code?
[13:15] <carrera> anadon, ok. Thanks!
[13:15] <anadon> szal: where are they in the source code?
[13:15] <StevenR> Johnny_Giggles: should be fine for most things. Obviously you won't be able to install everything :)
[13:15] <anadon> carrera: your welcome
[13:15] <Gentoo64> abandersnatch, theres other ubuntus like xubuntu etc that have a more standard look
[13:16] <agustin> Can anyoine tell me if under natty I can point to libreoffice ppa onearic to upgrade to 3.4.2?
[13:16] <Jeanbeaudrillard> libreoffice is really goood
[13:17] <abandersnatch> gentoo64: I am well aware of that, but I have received so many complaints from users because of that its unreal. I also get complaints over the fact that they cant run the same application twice
[13:17] <michaelxq> i'm having problems with my camera. I know i have to install r5u8xx but i don't know how and where to find it to be exact
[13:17] <agustin> will this actionbreak my system?
[13:17] <Gentoo64> abandersnatch, whats the problem? Unity? you can disable that
[13:17] <xangua> agustin: mix repositories = bad idea
[13:17] <agustin> thanks xangua
[13:18] <Gentoo64> abandersnatch, the side bar thing? in gnome 3 you can hold ctrl and clik apps to open a new instance not sure if works on unity
[13:18] <abandersnatch> let me ty
[13:18] <Gentoo64> abandersnatch, when you log in choose classic mode from the dropdown box youll prefer it
[13:19] <abandersnatch> nope, doesn't work in unity
[13:19] <Gentoo64> abandersnatch, use classic mode then
[13:19] <Gentoo64> its a bit like 10.10
[13:19] <abandersnatch> no, I do run gnome 2 normally. I just am wondering if they are fixing any of these problems in the next version
[13:19] <ktwohig9> ok got a ? Finally gonna do a real install of Ubuntu instead of my Wubi install. Sony F series I7 laptop - Should I go 32 bit or 64?
[13:20] <agustin> I guessed
[13:20] <aeplus> ktwo, i would go 64-bit
[13:20] <Gentoo64> abandersnatch, i think they will do. but thats the reaosn a lot of people use classic because unity isnt very good
[13:21] <agustin> so, does anyone know when natty's libreoffice repositories will be updated?
[13:21] <ktwohig9> aeplus - thank you
[13:22] <carrera> which log should I look in for info after X (Gnome) hangs
[13:22] <abandersnatch> last time I was in ayatana when unity was first pushed one of the devs went on a rant of how much better it is to have giant icons, and to search for all your icons, and how normal people dont need to run the same application twice. I raged
[13:22] <bazhang> agustin, what version did you need? apart from security issues, they wont
[13:22] <abandersnatch> I was wondering if they rethought those things since, but I havnt tied the beta yet
[13:22] <bazhang> !ot | abandersnatch
[13:22] <aeplus> i like unity, very screen real estate efficient
[13:23] <abandersnatch> unity is offtopic?
[13:23] <Gentoo64> how is it
[13:23] <Jeanbeaudrillard> never heard o it i use mint but i might test it one day :p
[13:23] <bazhang> abandersnatch, ranting is
[13:23] <Gentoo64> unity takes up a load of screen space
[13:23] <Jeanbeaudrillard> is it based on ubuntu ?
[13:23] <Gentoo64> mint is the same basically
[13:24] <Gentoo64> but with different ui
[13:24] <Gentoo64> and some extra stuff
[13:24] <abandersnatch> I'm not ranting, I'm discussing the future of unity's development
[13:24] <agustin> bazhang, I'd like to upgrade to 3.4.2, I know it's available via .deb
[13:24] <Jeanbeaudrillard> ok ireally like the last release of mint very well done
[13:24] <bazhang> abandersnatch, this is the wrong place for it; it's support
[13:24] <IdleOne> abandersnatch:  unity in the beta is offtopic for this channel. #ubuntu+1 is the proper channel.
[13:24] <abandersnatch> very well
[13:25] <IdleOne> thank you.
[13:25] <xangua> IdleOne: unity is the beta¿ o_O
[13:25] <anadon> where do I find the dependencies in a source package?
[13:25] <michaelxq> i'm having problems with my camera. I know i have to install r5u8xx but i don't know how and where to find it to be exact
[13:25] <IdleOne> xangua: he is talking about 11.10
[13:27] <carrera> has anyone had any lockup or data loss problems with ext4?
[13:28] <Stanley00> carrera: nope. what's your problem?
[13:28] <anadon> carrera: I haven't had any.  Its really a very nice fs
[13:28] <BluesKaj> carrera, not any that can be directly blamed on the file system
[13:29] <usr13> anadon: Should be a readme, or you can just start compiling and it will tell you.  If it doesn't catch it then, (someimes the dependency is not essential to building the package) it will error out when it doesn't perform.
[13:29] <panda_> I really think I borked ubuntu
[13:29] <usr13> anadon: But there should be a list.
[13:29] <michaelxq> i'm having problems with my camera. I know i have to install r5u8xx but i don't know how and where to find it to be exact
[13:29] <usr13> panda_: What did you do?
[13:30] <usr13> !source | anadon
[13:30] <panda_> I wanted to get rid of Evolution mail
[13:30] <panda_> and replace it with Thunderbird
[13:30] <anadon> usr13: I looked at the 'README' and it mentions nothing
[13:30] <carrera> BluesKaj, thanks. I've had one data loss with 11.04 and at least 1 lockup every other day
[13:30] <anadon> ubottu: I'm looking into how to make a package manager for proof of concept
[13:30] <usr13> anadon: There may be no dependencies.  Not all packages will.
[13:30] <panda_> because Thunderbird can start minimized
[13:31] <panda_> so I googled
[13:31] <bazhang> !enter | panda_
[13:31] <anadon> usr13: I'm pretty sure dpkg (the source I got) has dependancies
[13:31] <carrera> BluesKaj, have you had the same problems?
[13:31] <usr13> anadon: Like I said, you'll find out.
[13:31] <shinsuke> it is said that the mbr is at the beginning of the disk. is this also true if the first partition is hidden or encrypted?
[13:31] <panda_> I'm not sure how to restore ubuntu back to it's original settings
[13:31] <panda_> besides re-installing
[13:31] <IdleOne> panda_: that is the way
[13:31] <usr13> panda_: What have you done?
[13:32] <IdleOne> or undo the changes you did
[13:32] <xangua> panda_: if it's unity, unity --reset or something like that i believe
[13:32] <BluesKaj> carrera, some , but most are probs with desktop graphics ,not any with the filesystem
[13:32] <usr13> panda_: What is wrong?
[13:33] <panda_> wow
[13:33] <panda_> xangua, I think that pretty much fixed everything
[13:35] <carrera> BluesKaj,  I think it's the nVidia driver  for my GeForce GTX 460M too, but I can't verify it
[13:36] <I-luv-Gaming> #islamisevil
[13:36] <BluesKaj> carrera, nvidia-current driver?
[13:37] <szal> that's what it's supposed to use
[13:37] <szal> carrera: dpkg -l *nvidia*
[13:38] <carrera> BluesKaj, yes, and I had trouble installing 11.04. I had to apt-get the driver manually
[13:38] <carrera> BluesKaj, szal, I had to do a text based install from the alternate CD
[13:39] <szal> carrera: not that that'd be a problem..
[13:39] <BluesKaj> carrera, the default driver for nvidia is nouveau , you can install the nvidia-current driver from admin> addtional drivers
[13:39] <carrera> szal, No sir, I was just nagging!
[13:39] <szal> carrera: anyhoo, 'dpkg -l *nvidia*' please
[13:41] <carrera> BluesKaj, thanks dude. I don't think that's what I have
[13:42] <BluesKaj> carrera, well check additonal drivers , there's a giu that let's you choose the recommended driver
[13:42] <carrera> BluesKaj, szal , nvidia-current 280.13-0ubuntu NVIDIA binary Xorg driver, kernel module
[13:42] <szal> so most current available
[13:42] <BluesKaj> carrera, that's the correct driver
[13:44] <BluesKaj> maybe your desktop is causing problems , carrera ...gnome3/shell/Unity , or whatever you use .
[13:45] <carrera> BluesKaj, what's nouveau then?
[13:45] <auronandace> !nouveau | carrera
[13:46] <BluesKaj> nouveau is the default nvidia driver , which provides a usable graphical desktop but without any "desktop effects", no 3D or DR, carrera
[13:46] <carrera> BluesKaj, szal, could it be Chromium?  Cause everytime my desktop crashed, I had both Firefox and Chromium open and I was switching desktops with
[13:47] <BluesKaj> more likely firefox
[13:47] <jetscreamer> nouveau gave me unreadable console fonts
[13:47] <jetscreamer> bleh
[13:48] <carrera> why does it say "This driver is activated but not currently in  use." at the bottom of Additional Drivers?
[13:50] <yoplaid> hi
[13:50] <BluesKaj> carrera, ignore that message , it's abug
[13:50]  * BluesKaj uses FF7beta. no probs so far ..also running 11.10 with KDE 4.7
[13:50] <yoplaid> hello
[13:51] <yoplaid> quit
[13:51] <usr13> shinsuke: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_Boot_Record
[13:51] <carrera> thanks BluesKaj!  How did you know that?
[13:52] <carrera> BluesKaj, szal , jetscreamer, what does it say, "No proprietary drivers in use on this system" at the top of my Additional Drivers?
[13:53] <BluesKaj> !proprietary | carrera
[13:54] <BluesKaj> !info proprietary | carrera
[13:54] <BluesKaj> bah
[13:54] <BluesKaj> carrera, proprietary means from the maker/manufacturer/nvidia company etc
[13:54] <Guest43506> man... I haven't used irc in 3 years...
[13:54] <Guest43506> how do I change my Nickname?
[13:55] <bazhang>  /nick newnick
[13:56] <BluesKaj> :)
[13:56] <carrera> BluesKaj, szal  AND newnick, thanks for your help today!
[13:57] <Guest43506>  /nick furioshonen
[13:57] <BluesKaj> carrera, np :)
[13:57] <Guest43506> #/nick furioshonen
[13:58] <BluesKaj> Guest43506, do it in the server textbox
[13:58] <BluesKaj> Guest43506, no#
[14:00] <apanagio> \join #linux.sch.gr
[14:00] <apanagio> #join
[14:01] <Guest43506> ahh... the sever textbox... 1st time using xchat... little different from mIRC
[14:02] <devcalais> < first time using IRC, 12 years of internet crawling and I can't believe I've never used it.
[14:02] <Stanley00> me too,
[14:02] <Stanley00> just know IRC when using Ubuntu :D
[14:04] <BluesKaj> devcalais, yeah , it is :)
[14:04] <devcalais> Ubuntu's been great to me, fresh install, first time using linux.
[14:04] <devcalais> very happy so far!
[14:04] <invisiblek> ubuntu has come a long way, thats for sure
[14:04] <devcalais> .. except the software centre crashing. -_-
[14:04] <invisiblek> 4.10 was great, but it was still a lot of work getting everything set up
[14:05] <Svendbenno> A quick question: How do i enable a GTK+ 3 theme in Ubuntu 11.04(gnome 2 shell)? I've downloaded the elementary theme from their launchpad site and extracted it to /usr/share/themes. The gtk+2 theme works fine, but not the gtk+3 theme :-(
[14:07] <xangua> Svendbenno: because 11.04 uses gtk2, no 3
[14:08] <Svendbenno> xangua: So there's no way to make GTK+ 3 apps look 'nice' in 11.04?
[14:09] <xangua> Svendbenno: there are no gtk3 apps on 11.04
[14:10] <xangua> if you mean you are using gnome3 ppa, i hope it is on a virtual machine ;)
[14:11] <Lucapunk> ciao
[14:11] <Svendbenno> xangua: Well, i've installed the elementary switchboard-app(to develop plugs), isn't that made with gtk3?
[14:11] <Lucapunk> a tutti
[14:11] <kuchiku> how to disablet a hardware in ubuntu]
[14:11] <Lucapunk> spa
[14:11] <Lucapunk> speak italina?
[14:11] <oCean> !it | Lucapunk
[14:12] <bazhang> !it | Lucapunk
[14:15] <kuchiku> how to disablet a hardware in ubuntu]
[14:16] <se7entime> #BlankOn
[14:16] <longsleep> guys i have cuba libre and playing around with Oneiric - the user switcher in unity just shows me [Invalid UTF-8] in the top panel. Anyone got that?
[14:17] <bazhang> longsleep, #ubuntu+1 please
[14:17] <longsleep> bazhang: oh all right - thanks
[14:19] <panda> hey, I'd like to move a file in to /etc/init.d/
[14:20] <panda> but I can't just right click Copy/Paste
[14:20] <panda> what's the deal?
[14:20] <dnivra> panda``: permissions probably.
[14:20] <enrry> goodbye all!
[14:20] <panda``> what's the command to copy a file
[14:20] <panda``> copy doesn't exist
[14:21] <Johnny_Giggles> panda``: cp
[14:21] <dnivra> panda``: only root user can copy to that directory.
[14:21] <panda``> sweet
[14:21] <Johnny_Giggles> panda``: cp /path/to/source /path/to/destination
[14:21] <dnivra> !cli: panda`` This might help in future
[14:22] <dnivra> oops!
[14:22] <dnivra> !cli | panda`` This might help in future
[14:22] <panda``> cool
[14:22] <panda``> I just
[14:22] <panda``> sudo cp 'src' 'dest'
[14:22] <panda``> worked well, thanks :)
[14:22] <dnivra> panda``: pretty much yeah. stick to one line in future.
[14:23] <hamedllll> Is there any way to install source package (tar.gz) graphical??
[14:23] <usr13> hamedllll: no
[14:24] <dnivra> hamedllll: i don't think so. what are you trying to install? did you check if it is already present in the repositories?
[14:24] <usr13> hamedllll: Well, yes, actually, if you use gnome-terminal, it is a graphical user interface terminal  :)
[14:25] <usr13> hamedllll: As dnivra points out, you shoul check to see if you can find it in the package manager first.
[14:25] <tool_kit> can i request for a vhost?
[14:26] <doaN> Hi there
[14:26] <doaN> I recently decided to change from Ubuntu 11.04 to Xubuntu 11.04, installation was fine then I reboot and i a grub error telling me "no such device : uuid"
[14:26] <tjiggi_fo> tool_kit, in #freenode
[14:26] <bazhang> tool_kit, ubuntu cloak? #ubuntu-irc
[14:26] <tool_kit> yes
[14:27] <usr13> doaN: Is that all it said?
[14:27] <compdoc> doaN, you didnt reinstall from scratch?
[14:28] <tool_kit> where can i wget perl script?
[14:29] <usr13> doaN: Did you just instll xubuntu-desktop?  Or did you download xubuntu and install fresh from a new CD?
[14:29] <doaN> yes, used gparted to delete my ubuntu 11.04 system for xubuntu
[14:29] <usr13>  doaN http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1305819
[14:29] <doaN> grub error no such device found : uuid-number
[14:29] <doaN> from fresh ISO
[14:30] <doaN> usb-install
[14:30] <karolaug> doaN: boot from cd/usb and update uuid number in /etc/fstab on your root drive
[14:32] <doaN> how do i update fstab ? blkid doesn t work
[14:32] <usr13> doaN: That site is old and where it says /mnt/boot/grub/menu.lst  you need to change that to /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[14:32] <usr13> doaN: or /mnt/boot/grub/grub.cfg  or where ever you mounted it.
[14:33] <karolaug> you have to use blkid form root account
[14:33] <karolaug> sudo blkid i mean
[14:33] <doaN> arf yeah
[14:33] <usr13> karolaug: Does he need to update it in /etc/fstab or in grub.cfg ?
[14:33] <doaN> my grub.cfg : http://paste.ubuntu.com/681209/
[14:34] <karolaug> i bleive both
[14:34] <doaN> im in dualboot
[14:35] <karolaug> you have to update uuid in grub configuration then run update-grub2
[14:35] <usr13> karolaug: No, probably just in /etc/fstab
[14:35] <karolaug> and make sure that you have proper uuid in /etc/fstab, where / drive is mounted
[14:35] <usr13> doaN: So run blkid and see if it is wrong in /etc/fstab
[14:35] <karolaug> doaN: yes
[14:35] <doaN> k
[14:36] <rhsanborn> Running 11.04, I installed sshd and enabled the VNC server.ssh -?
[14:36] <karolaug> make sure that your'e checking /etc/fstab on your system drive, not live cd
[14:36] <bluecrysmile> ./join #ubuntu-cn
[14:37] <usr13> doaN: Did you try mode de dépannage ?
[14:38] <doaN> usr13, i cant see the grub menu
[14:38] <doaN> the UUID s match
[14:38] <doaN> fstab blkid
[14:38] <usr13> doaN: Oh yea.  sorry.
[14:38] <Calinou> lol usr13
[14:38] <doaN> karolaug,  the UUID s match
[14:39] <rhsanborn> Running 11.04, I installed sshd and enabled VNC server. If the client fails (goes to sleep with active ssh or VNC connections) I can't reconnect  without rebooting the Ubuntu box for SSH, or manually killing the VNC connection from the Ubuntu box ... which kind of kills the remote access bit
[14:39] <karolaug> doaN: so you have to update your grub configuration, i had the same issue when i changed hdd in my pc
[14:39] <usr13> doaN: maybe grub is messed up.
[14:39] <usr13> !grub2 | doaN
[14:40] <doaN> I tried this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Copy_LiveCD_Files
[14:40] <karolaug> doaN: i dont remember exacly where it is but you have to update uuid in grub config and then run update-grub (or grub-update, i dont remember)
[14:40] <doaN> didnt work
[14:40] <panda_> hey everyone
[14:40] <doaN> hi panda_
[14:40] <panda_> just letting you all know, I wrote my first .sh file today and it works great
[14:40] <panda_> cheeky cheeky!
[14:40] <usr13> rhsanborn: Go into the powersave settings and turn off suspend
[14:40] <doaN> o//
[14:41] <patrunjel> Hi guys, can you please recommend me a simple to use audio recording program? (I just need to test a microphone)
[14:41] <devish> i watched kung fu panda and it was great
[14:41] <Antony> hey guys - got a quick problem...
[14:41] <panda_> patholio, audacity
[14:41] <Antony> patrunjel: audacity is pretty good for recording - allows you to mess around with it too
[14:41] <rhsanborn> usr13, suspend is disabled on the ubuntu box, sometimes you just can't help a client losing connection, would hate to lose all remote access the first time I lose connection remotely.
[14:42] <outer_space> I am trying to run "autogen.sh" first I try "./autogen.sh" but it says Permission denied. Then I try "sudo ./autogen.sh" but it says "command not found"
[14:42] <devish> patrunjel: why don't you try online services like of skype ,gtalk ect
[14:43] <Antony> i'm trying to run a perl script as a different user - i have my pl chmodded 755, yet other users just get permission denied - any ideas?
[14:43] <patrunjel> devish, because I need another person to chat with, and I don't know anyone that uses skype, etc (just yahoo.. )
[14:43] <Antony> patrunjel: skype has a SkypeTestCall that records then replays to you
[14:43] <devish> patrunjel: thats the fun u can record that listen youself
[14:44] <patrunjel> Nevermind, audacity is good enough, thanks guys :D
[14:46] <txtptc_> I have an old (win2kpro) P3 pc with only IDE, should I be able to boot through a pci sata card?
[14:47] <devish> txtptc_: try #hardware
[14:47] <jetscreamer> long as it works in bios
[14:48] <jetscreamer> ie the bios sees it
[14:48] <jetscreamer> check for updated bios image, also
[14:49] <txtptc_> well the bios has "alternate boot device" option.
[14:49] <TokyoDan> test
[14:49] <savoy9020> If I move an Ubuntu server vm (virtualbox) from one host to another, it doesn't see the nic's on boot.  Is there a way to make Ubuntu server reprobe the ethernet nic's?
[14:50] <txtptc_> I'm thinking of buying the pci card, so I can't test...
[14:50] <txtptc_> but thanks
[14:51] <shadowman> how to make linux os
[14:51] <shadowman> my own
[14:52] <BluesKaj> !lfs | shadowman
[14:54] <shadowman> thanks for responds ubottu
[14:56] <gallaeaho> Hi there, I appear to have run into a problem with opening folders.... More specifically, "Computer"
[14:56] <aatish> hi everyone. i have been trying to connect my bluetooth headset with my ubuntu desktop with no success since 3 months. i have tried this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothHeadset and other guides stil no success
[14:56] <gallaeaho> All I'm getting as an error is "Nautilus cannot handle "computer" locations."
[14:57] <shadowman> my z60m laptop blutooth is not working it is in bios but not detecting in my ubuntu
[14:57] <Aeth> If I want to install a live USB of Ubuntu from a different distro, is there a special process that is necessary?
[14:58] <Aeth> The documentation appears to only support Windows/Mac/Ubuntu
[14:58] <Aeth> The computer in question does not have a CD or DVD drive
[14:58] <gallaeaho> Aeth: Do you have said live USB stick made?
[14:59] <Aeth> gallaeaho: No, someone had a broken USB stick (bad company, unbootable) and so I have to make a new one. I only have a Fedora box with me.
[14:59] <Aeth> And it has to be through USB.
[14:59] <gallaeaho> Ah, ok
[14:59] <yeats> !unetbootin | Aeth
[14:59] <gallaeaho> That's funny... The Computer link has disappeared off my device list
[14:59] <gallaeaho> I don't see it under Desktop where it should normally be
[15:00] <yeats> Aeth: unetbootin is available on Fedora, FYI
[15:01] <Antony> guys, i'm stuck with this perl script
[15:01] <Antony> i'm running ubuntu server
[15:02] <Antony> and it is chmodded 755 - i can run it, root can run it - but no other users can. even if the user is in the same group - any ideas?
[15:02] <tensorpudding> Antony: is the path to the file accessible to other users of the group?
[15:02] <yeats> Antony: where is the script located?  In your home dir?
[15:02] <Antony> it is in /home/antweb/store
[15:02] <Antony> store is 755 - antweb is 700 (afaik)
[15:03] <Antony> so i guess it cannot get to it.. but i thought the 755 would override that?
[15:03] <Antony> ah it is 750
[15:03] <Antony> (antweb is 750, store is 755)
[15:03] <tensorpudding> 750 should be good enough if they are in the same group as the home directory
[15:04] <tensorpudding> but home directories are usually owned by the group of your user
[15:04] <tensorpudding> and usually other users are never added to that group
[15:05] <Antony> ha yeah.. hm.
[15:05] <Antony> i just need the postfix user to be able to execute it really
[15:07] <tensorpudding> Antony: you can place it somewhere outside of your home directory
[15:07] <tensorpudding> maybe inside postfix's home directory
[15:08] <Antony> it doesn't have one - i'll just put it *somewhere*
[15:09] <dude> i want to talk to mark shuttleworth now
[15:10] <Aquix> he's busy
[15:10] <OerHeks> dude, tell us why ?
[15:10] <dude> because gnome3 is a joke
[15:10] <Aquix> spending all that sweet sweet ubuntu money
[15:10] <dude> he should add a release ubuntu-mate
[15:10] <Aquix> dude he didn't make G3
[15:10] <Logan_> dude: You can use other interfaces, such as KDE, XFCE, and LXDE.
[15:11] <OerHeks> support gnome3 / oneiric in #Ubuntu+1
[15:11] <dude> i want a gnome2 or gnome2 fork
[15:11] <dude> i hate gnome3
[15:11] <Logan_> dude: Which version of Ubuntu are you running?
[15:11] <dude> i use computers for now 25 years
[15:11] <dude> u run mint
[15:11] <Konata> "Nautilus cannot handle "computer" locations." - Been getting this since this morning
[15:11] <tensorpudding> dude: take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:11] <Logan_> !mint | dude
[15:11] <Myrtti> dude: well this isn't the channel for general comments and feedback, please use some other channel for it. This is for Ubuntu support issues only
[15:11] <Konata> I also can't mount drives, and I also can't see my DVD drive anymore
[15:11] <tensorpudding> this is not the place to air grievances
[15:12] <dude> i think i am not the only one that doesnt like gnome3
[15:12] <Konata> Not by a longshot.
[15:12] <cement_head_> Anyone have a good "touchfreeze" script for ImPS/2 ALPS GlidePoint touchpads?
[15:12] <Myrtti> yeah, you're not. That still doesn't make this channel the right one for feedback.
[15:12] <Konata> I'm not a fan of it.
[15:13] <Konata> Anyhow, I did some research on Google on my issue and it seems that this dates back to the Hardy release
[15:13] <Konata> But anything that should've been fixed would have been fixed in updates since 3 years ago... Haha
[15:13] <tensorpudding> Konata: do you have a bug report for it?
[15:13] <cement_head_> @Konata I had this problem
[15:13] <cement_head_> Your install is borked
[15:13] <cement_head_> backup & reinstall
[15:13] <UnknownFork> bork
[15:14] <Konata> tensorpudding, why would I report something that's been an issue for three years
[15:14] <UnknownFork> bork
[15:14] <UnknownFork> bork
[15:14] <FloodBot1> UnknownFork: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:14] <dude> stop bork
[15:14] <qiushuihan> hi
[15:14] <UnknownFork> im sorry
[15:14] <tensorpudding> Konata: if you say it's a problem since hardy, there probably is already one in the system
[15:14] <Konata> Exactly
[15:14] <dude> i am human not a toy
[15:14] <tensorpudding> Konata: yes, so have you found it
[15:14] <Konata> No, I haven't
[15:14] <Iamred> He's the story... I installed Ubuntu 11.04 an my eeePC and now the drivers don't work. HELP?!
[15:14] <san> hi
[15:14] <Konata> This just started happening last night tensorpudding
[15:14] <Konata> Well
[15:14] <Konata> This morning
[15:14] <dude> ubuntustudio uses gnome2 on natty?
[15:14] <furyoshonen> what eeepc do you have?
[15:15] <tensorpudding> what exactly is the bug?
[15:15] <Iamred> He's the story... I installed Ubuntu 11.04 an my eeePC and now the drivers don't work. HELP?!
[15:15] <tensorpudding> what version of ubuntu are you using
[15:15] <san> van anybody tell me why this modem is not working in ubuntu 11.10
[15:15] <Konata> tensorpudding, "Nautilus cannot handle "computer" locations." along with I cannot mount drives and/or see my DVD drive
[15:15] <Konata> this is Lucid
[15:15] <tensorpudding> that's the exact popup message?
[15:15] <Iamred> He's the story... I installed Ubuntu 11.04 an my eeePC and now the drivers don't work. HELP?!
[15:15] <dude> how can i upgrade to natty ubuntu studio from maverick with release upgrade?
[15:15] <Konata> tensorpudding, I can even take a screenshot if you'd like
[15:15] <UnknownFork> help Iamred
[15:15] <Iamred> He's the story... I installed Ubuntu 11.04 an my eeePC and now the drivers don't work. HELP?!
[15:15] <oCean> san: 11.10 is still beta, support in #ubuntu+1 channel
[15:16] <UnknownFork> help Iamred
[15:16] <Iamred> He's the story... I installed Ubuntu 11.04 an my eeePC and now the drivers don't work. HELP?!
[15:16] <tensorpudding> !repeat | Iamred
[15:16] <UnknownFork> cunt
[15:16] <tensorpudding> Iamred: what drivers, be more specific
[15:16] <oCean> UnknownFork: stop that immediately
[15:16] <xangua> dude: just open the update manager
[15:16] <UnknownFork> ok
[15:17] <Iamred> The cunt drivers.
[15:17] <UnknownFork> im sorry
[15:17] <tensorpudding> Iamred: be serious
[15:17] <oCean> Iamred: stop that
[15:17] <Iamred> WiFi.
[15:17] <UnknownFork> im sorry
[15:17] <tensorpudding> Konata: screenshot would be good
[15:17] <UnknownFork> im dearly sorry
[15:17] <tensorpudding> Iamred: what's your wifi chipset
[15:17] <Iamred> 802.11n
[15:17] <UnknownFork> I'll buy you a drink
[15:18] <oCean> UnknownFork: this channel is for support. Stop the offtopic talk now
[15:18] <tensorpudding> Iamred: that's not a chipset
[15:18] <UnknownFork> im sorry
[15:18] <tensorpudding> Iamred: what model is your wifi
[15:18] <UnknownFork> i just wanted to say sorry
[15:19] <UnknownFork> ok i have a question
[15:20] <tensorpudding> Konata: does the problem persist if you reboot?
[15:20] <Konata> tensorpudding, yes
[15:20] <Konata> I had to restart once to install some updates this morning
[15:20] <Konata> But the issue was already present beforehand
[15:21] <tensorpudding> Iamred: please open up Terminal, and enter "sudo lshw -C network" and hit enter
[15:21] <x3qt0r> hello
[15:21] <Iamred> I'm running Mac OS X 10.7 now.
[15:21] <x3qt0r> I am having a problem using remote desktop utility
[15:21] <tensorpudding> Iamred: oh
[15:21] <Myrtti> Iamred: so why do you come to this channel for help?
[15:22] <x3qt0r> it says " unable to connect"
[15:22] <Iamred> For a shag.
[15:22] <x3qt0r> i am using ubuntu10.04
[15:22] <x3qt0r> with xfce4
[15:22] <Antony> x3qt0r: wat client you using?
[15:22] <improveupon> firefox keeps crashing my os. suddenly the system cannot detect the hard drive. i have 4 gb of memory and firefox is all that is running. the error messages (copied by hand) it gives are at paste.ubuntu.com/681157. i have already purged firefox and deleted ~/.mozilla and reinstalled (before i did that it crashed in this way as soon as firefox started; now it takes a while). this system is
[15:22] <improveupon> dual-booting windows, which never crashes.
[15:22] <tensorpudding> Konata: try opening a terminal, and running "nautilus" from the terminal
[15:22] <x3qt0r> Terminal server
[15:22] <tensorpudding> Konata: you might get a more verbose error message if you try to browse Computer from there
[15:23] <shinsuke> i want to save my mbr and grub with dd. but not sure if the count option should be 63 or 64. fdisk -lu says "255 heads, 63 sectors/track" thanks.
[15:23] <Konata> There's no Computer link in there either
[15:23] <x3qt0r> the desktop I want to remotely access is using windows 7
[15:23] <Iamred> SHAG ZILLA!
[15:23] <Myrtti> Iamred: if you didn't understand what it meant that you were removed from the channel, it was trying to convey the message "Behave"
[15:24] <tensorpudding> Konata: i would think it's a problem with the backend, though what specifically i have no idea
[15:24] <Iamred> Is this because I'm autistic?
[15:24] <Konata> tensorpudding, might've come up after the 491 updates I installed yesterday
[15:24] <Konata> BUT
[15:24] <x3qt0r> There are no other error message except " cannot connect"
[15:24] <Konata> Why would I suddenly have it this morning and not last night
[15:24] <Iamred> Is this because I'm autistic?
[15:24] <tensorpudding> Konata: well, lucid is LTS, and does not use new versions of software, just security updates
[15:24] <Iamred> Is this because I'm autistic?
[15:24] <Iamred> Is this because I'm autistic?
[15:24] <Iamred> Is this because I'm autistic?
[15:25] <FloodBot1> Iamred: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:25] <dude> aspergers don't act like you
[15:25] <Iamred> INSULT!
[15:25] <x3qt0r> hello anyone?
[15:25] <x3qt0r> =/
[15:25] <Pilif12p> is it at all possible to use a laptop as a wifi hotspot when it's connected to a network?
[15:25] <Konata> x3qt0r, is there a RDP running on the destination
[15:26] <dude> pill yeah it is
[15:26] <Antony> Pilif12p: yes - create a new wireless network and connect to it.
[15:26] <Pilif12p> er, when it's connected to a wireless network
[15:26] <x3qt0r> I am pretty much of a newbie when it comes to remote desktop
[15:26] <Antony> (note you can only connect to one wireless network per wifi card)
[15:26] <Konata> x3qt0r: What OS is the machine you want to connect to running
[15:26] <Pilif12p> i know you can when it's wired
[15:26] <Antony> then no..
[15:26] <x3qt0r> windows 7
[15:26] <x3qt0r> I am using ubuntu 10.04
[15:26] <Antony> sorry Pilif12p
[15:27] <Pilif12p> first world problems :P
[15:27] <Konata> x3qt0r, in the properties of the Computer (right click Computer off the start menu, click Properties)
[15:27] <dude> is someomne into ubuntu-studio?
[15:27] <Antony> there maybe some magic you can do in permisqious mode...
[15:27] <Konata> On the left, there's a link to the effect of "Advanced Options" or something...
[15:27] <Konata> From there, click the remote tab
[15:28] <x3qt0r> and check those two boxes?
[15:28] <Konata> There should only be one box
[15:28] <Konata> "Allow Remote Assistance connections to this computer"
[15:29] <x3qt0r> Yea i think thats checked
[15:29] <x3qt0r> Yes
[15:29] <x3qt0r> It is
[15:29] <Konata> x3qt0r, do you know the LAN IP of your windows machine?
[15:29] <n2i> "Natty/11.04 is out!" What does it mean?
[15:29] <Frots> hi /
[15:29] <Konata> n2i: That means you can update to the release with apt-get dist-upgrade
[15:29] <x3qt0r> LAN ip is same as IP address right?
[15:30] <x3qt0r> and its not my machine
[15:30] <x3qt0r> its my friends machine
[15:30] <ActionParsnip> n2i: It gets changed the second the next release is out.
[15:30] <Konata> x3qt0r, is it on the same network as your ubuntu machien?
[15:30] <ActionParsnip> n2i: It is officially stable and ready to use
[15:30] <Konata> *machine
[15:30] <x3qt0r> No
[15:30] <x3qt0r> its in a different part of the city
[15:30] <Konata> x3qt0r, then the problem is absolutely ports
[15:30] <x3qt0r> so how do I solve it
[15:30] <ActionParsnip> x3qt0r: then you need him/her to go to www.ipchicken.com to get the WAN IP and connect to that
[15:30] <Frots> how is everyone
[15:31] <n2i> Konata: but, I think 11.04 is not released yet
[15:31] <ActionParsnip> Frots: full of fryup :)
[15:31] <Konata> n2i: it is
[15:31] <martin__29> hi
[15:31] <Frots> x3qt0r: whaqt are you trying to solve?
[15:31] <ActionParsnip> !download | n2i:
[15:31] <martin__29> I have recently been doing some remote port forwards with putty, but sometimes the connection fails for a variety of reasons. is there any sort of service that will do ssh and port forwarding and reconnect if the connection is lost?
[15:31] <Konata> 11.10 is the next release and it's still in beta
[15:31] <Konata> Frots: A connection timeout issue with connecting to a machine through RDP
[15:31] <x3qt0r> I made them go to " what is my ip"
[15:31] <x3qt0r> and got their IP address
[15:31] <ActionParsnip> n2i: 11.04 is released in the 4th month or 20(11)   this is in the past
[15:31] <Frots> ok
[15:31] <x3qt0r> then tried to connect via terminal server client
[15:31] <Frots> did they forward 3389 to their machine?
[15:31] <x3qt0r> using RDPv5
[15:32] <x3qt0r> no
[15:32] <Frots> have you tried ruinning an nmap portscan?
[15:32] <x3qt0r> I dunno what that means
[15:32] <x3qt0r> No
[15:32] <x3qt0r> I am a noobs to all this
[15:32] <ActionParsnip> x3qt0r: same deal, they will need to setup port forwarding in the router to allow your connection through. If you are wanting to use VNC then use an SSH tunnel as VNC has zero security
[15:32] <n2i> sorry, I have taken a misstake :(
[15:32] <Frots> mstsc uses port 3389 by default
[15:32] <Frots> x3qt0r: for a n00b you have a cool nickname :)
[15:32] <n2i> I mean 11.10 is not released yet.
[15:32] <x3qt0r> lol
[15:32] <ActionParsnip> n2i: it's cool dude, that's how it's easy to know when releases are out, as well as when they are EOL
[15:32] <x3qt0r> ty
[15:33] <Frots> but if the port 3389 is not open, it will not work
[15:33] <Frots> apt-get install nmap
[15:33] <Konata> tensorpudding, if you're still there
[15:33] <ActionParsnip> n2i: yes, it's out in the 10th month of 20(11). Hence 11.10 ;)
[15:33] <Frots> and run nmap -P0 destination-IP
[15:33] <Konata> Any idea on a fix for this? I'd hate to have to reinstall a system I just installed last night
[15:33] <tensorpudding> Konata: i was doing some digging on gnome's bugtracker for a bug on your issue, but i couldn't find one
[15:33] <x3qt0r> I think I have had nmap installed long back
[15:33] <x3qt0r> for something else
[15:33] <Konata> tensorpudding, I found an ubuntuforums link
[15:33] <x3qt0r> okay wait
[15:34] <Konata> Again, it's from '08
[15:34] <Konata> but
[15:34] <Konata> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=801597
[15:35] <tensorpudding> Konata: try hitting alt+f2, typing 'dbus-launch nautilus --no-desktop' and hit enter
[15:35] <Konata> tensorpudding, one moment
[15:36] <tensorpudding> if it's a dbus error, that might fix the issue, i don't know
[15:36] <Konata> Done, and still nothing
[15:36] <Antony> tensorpudding: thrown it in /usr/ant/ and it seems to work - thanks for your help.
[15:36] <Konata> Oh tensorpudding, one thing... I attempted to compile xchat2 from source this morning (dbus related) and it told me it oculd not find package dbus-1
[15:36] <x3qt0r> ALL PORTS ARE FILTERED
[15:36] <x3qt0r> oops
[15:36] <x3qt0r> sorry
[15:36] <FloodBot1> x3qt0r: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:36] <tensorpudding> Konata: that could be an issue
[15:36] <x3qt0r> sorry
[15:37] <tensorpudding> though if dbus weren't running you'd probably have a lot more problems
[15:37] <Konata> checking for DBUS... configure: error: Package requirements (dbus-1) were not met: No package 'dbus-1' found
[15:37] <tensorpudding> Konata: can you see dbus running in the system monitor?
[15:37] <Konata> one second, I'll check
[15:37] <Konata> Here, I'll paste htis one
[15:37] <tensorpudding> you'll want something called 'dbus-daemon'
[15:38] <tensorpudding> i think
[15:38] <tensorpudding> unless it's changed between 11.04 and 10.04
[15:38] <Konata> tensorpudding, http://pastebin.com/twbacDvu
[15:39] <improveupon> if anyone newly entering would like to take a look at the errors firefox is giving when it crashes my system: http://paste.ubuntu.com/681157/
[15:39] <tensorpudding> Konata: dbus is running them
[15:40] <tensorpudding> Konata: try seeing if glib is installed
[15:40] <ActionParsnip> improveupon: if you create a fresh firefox profile, is it ok?
[15:40] <Konata> glib is definitely installed because I compiled and installed it from suorce last night
[15:40] <tensorpudding> Konata: in lucid, there is no dbus-1 package, by the way
[15:41] <tensorpudding> Konata: that thread indicates that glib is causing nautilus problems
[15:41] <tensorpudding> Konata: try removing it
[15:41] <Konata> Removing glib?
[15:41] <Konata> Ok
[15:41] <improveupon> ActionParsnip: no
[15:41] <tensorpudding> Konata: see if that fixes it
[15:41] <tensorpudding> Konata: why were you compiling xchat, anyway?
[15:41] <alopexx> test
[15:41] <Konata> tensorpudding, well, because I can
[15:41] <tensorpudding> xchat is available as a package, though
[15:41] <Konata> Yes, I know.
[15:42] <Konata> I wanted to try it the hard way.
[15:42] <ItsPriyank> Hi all. I have been using ubuntu 10.10 for almost 6 moths and now want to shift to KUbuntu....what you guys suggest for KDE?
[15:42] <tensorpudding> hmm
[15:42] <tensorpudding> well, xchat requires glib
[15:42] <tensorpudding> if there is some unfixed bug involving nautilus and glib, that would be unfortunate
[15:42] <Konata> Oh, here's a new one
[15:42] <Konata> I can't remove glib
[15:42] <xangua> ItsPriyank: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[15:42] <Konata> what's the name of the package?
[15:43] <ActionParsnip> improveupon: try updating java, there is a 23 version available
[15:43] <ItsPriyank> xangua:  so will it upgrade my gnome to kde
[15:43] <tensorpudding> Konata: libglib-2.0 i think
[15:43] <xangua> ItsPriyank: aaah...kde is not gnome's upgrade :S
[15:43] <improveupon> ActionParsnip: thank you
[15:43] <tensorpudding> Konata: libglib-2.0-0
[15:43] <ActionParsnip> ltspriyank: it will install both, you choose the DE at login
[15:44] <ItsPriyank> xangua:  sorry change it to kde
[15:44] <Konata> tensorpudding, got that through apt-cache search glib|grep glib
[15:44] <ActionParsnip> improveupon: try a different browser too to test
[15:44] <tensorpudding> Konata: found the LP bugreport on your bug
[15:44] <xangua> ItsPriyank: it will install kde desktop, if you want to remove gnome you can do it later
[15:44] <ItsPriyank> oh thats really great
[15:44] <Konata> tensorpudding, I can't uninstall glib without breaking it
[15:44] <ItsPriyank> xangua: oh thats really great
[15:44] <Konata> After this operation, 1,888MB disk space will be freed.
[15:44] <Konata> You are about to do something potentially harmful.
[15:44] <Konata> To continue type in the phrase 'Yes, do as I say!'
[15:44] <Konata> lol
[15:44] <tensorpudding> Konata: oh!
[15:44] <FloodBot1> Konata: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:44] <tensorpudding> Konata: you installed glib from source didn't you!
[15:45] <coz_> Konata,   you might want to install  chrome-browser  to test also
[15:45] <improveupon> ActionParsnip: if the new browser does not work, what would you think were the problem?
[15:45] <Konata> coz_: I have chromium
[15:45] <Konata> Oh
[15:45] <Konata> you mean a file explorer
[15:45] <Konata> derp
[15:45] <tensorpudding> Konata: if you installed it to /usr/local, that seems to be the issue
[15:45]  * Konata sighs
[15:45] <Konata> is there any way to rectify said issue
[15:45] <FloodBot1> Konata: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:45] <ItsPriyank> I don't want  to break irc rules or start any arguments....but is it worth installing KDE?
[15:45] <coz_> Konata,   ok doe that work ?
[15:45] <tensorpudding> Konata: well, first, did you install it to /usr/local or not?
[15:45] <ActionParsnip> improveupon: then it's java from what the error says, check the web for forums mentioning the same error
[15:45] <Konata> tensorpudding, more than likely
[15:46] <Konata> I just followed ./configure && make && make install
[15:46] <tensorpudding> Konata: okay, so did you put anything in /usr/local besides glib?
[15:46] <tensorpudding> Konata: if so, just nuke everything in /usr/local
[15:47] <tensorpudding> Konata: compiling software from source can cause conflicts with other software in your system; it's not usually a good idea if you don't know how it affects the software you have installed
[15:47] <ItsPriyank> Is KDE better than GNOME
[15:47] <improveupon> ActionParsnip: thanks again
[15:47] <coz_> ItsPriyank,  not really,,, they are different
[15:47] <tensorpudding> Konata: in all likelihood you *already* had a glib installed, and when you installed a second one it caused everything to go haywire
[15:47] <ItsPriyank> coz_: okay
[15:48] <Konata> tensorpudding, Which folder in /usr/local do i nuke
[15:48] <oCean> ItsPriyank: it's a matter of personal taste, mostly. But this channel is not for polls
[15:48] <coz_> ItsPriyank,    you have to try them to see which fits with your work habits and the kind of control you want over the system
[15:48] <tensorpudding> Konata: just delete everything there, unless there is anything you put in /usr/local you want to save
[15:48] <ActionParsnip> ItsPriyank: both are great, there is no single best solution for anything
[15:48] <ItsPriyank> i have though used fedora 15 kde.... oCean sorry. coz_ thanks
[15:49] <ActionParsnip> ItsPriyank: its good to try both though, there is also LXDE and XFCE as well as many other desktops :)
[15:49] <ItsPriyank> ActionParsnip:  yeah i guess so...i'm gonna try out both now
[15:49] <scarleo> Hi, I'm trying to set up a chrooted sftp server, dir is /sftp/chroot/user and sshd config chroots to /sftp/chroot. Problem is all users can see each others catalogs. Can I prevent them from doing that?
[15:50] <ItsPriyank> Thanks a lot guys....
[15:50] <Konata> tensorpudding, it's gone now
[15:50] <Konata> I made a backup of local just in case
[15:50] <scarleo> chrooting to /sftp/chroot/user doesn't work since chroot directory must be owned by root
[15:50] <tensorpudding> Konata: if you log out/in, it should work
[15:50] <Konata> Ok, trying
[15:51] <bindi> hey
[15:51] <bindi> i'm trying to install ubuntu 10.04.3 here, and the installer hangs after the keyboard layout selection
[15:51] <kristianpaul> Hello
[15:51] <bindi> then an error pops up in the notification area, saying parted_server has crashed
[15:52] <ActionParsnip> bindi: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[15:52] <kristianpaul> What's the recomended way to create a ubuntu live usb from a linux system (not ubuntu)?
[15:52] <ActionParsnip> kristianpaul: use unetbootin, remember to MD5 test the ISO you download
[15:52] <BlueEagle> bindi: How much RAM in your computer?
[15:52] <bindi> BlueEagle: 1 GB
[15:52] <bindi> it's a mini laptop, samsung NC10
[15:52] <bindi> ActionParsnip: doing that now
[15:52] <urlin2u> bindi, is it a ssd hd
[15:53] <bindi> urlin2u: nope, 160 GB 2.5" hdd
[15:53] <kristianpaul> ActionParsnip: Where i can get the md5 for 11.04 32-bits?
[15:53] <bindi> ActionParsnip: md5 sum matches
[15:54] <urlin2u> !md5sum
[15:54] <coz_> kristianpaul,    https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes
[15:55] <kristianpaul> yes checking now
[15:55] <UbuN2> hi guys
[15:55] <Konata> I don't really like it, but it worked
[15:55] <Konata> lol
[15:56] <ActionParsnip> bindi: cool, does the RAM test out as OK using memtest?
[15:56] <coz_> UbuN2,  hey
[15:56] <Konata> thanks for all the help, tensorpudding
[15:56] <UbuN2> im trying to get a dual boot going on ubuntu but when i do update-grub it says it found the partition
[15:56] <UbuN2> hiya coz_
[15:56] <ActionParsnip> kristianpaul: using torrents helps get a good image, it also stresses the servers less
[15:56] <tensorpudding> Konata: np
[15:56] <UbuN2> long time no see tht nick
[15:56] <bindi> ActionParsnip: well I haven't gotten that far yet
[15:56] <kristianpaul> ActionParsnip: he, too late ;)
[15:57] <bindi> http://script.quakenet.org/paste/580140 here's /var/log/messages if it has anything useful
[15:57] <kristianpaul> also my ISP block me torrents..
[15:57] <kristianpaul> but thats another topic :/
[15:57] <UbuN2> but its not rigister the info in grub.cfg
[15:57] <UbuN2> registering*
[15:57] <ActionParsnip> kristianpaul: that's sad, ISPs can be so ignorant :(
[15:58] <urlin2u> UbuN2, is the partition a ntfs, and does t open when you want it to from Ubuntu?
[15:58] <UbuN2> any idea why it says found the Os but not registering it
[15:58] <UbuN2> its a ext4
[15:58] <urlin2u> UbuN2, can you open it or does it read busy and what is there 3 questions here.
[15:58] <UbuN2> it opens
[15:59] <UbuN2> im installing it in a chroot enviroment
[15:59] <urlin2u> UbuN2, can you open it or does it read busy and what is there 3 questions here.
[15:59] <UbuN2> nope it doesnt read busy
[15:59] <computerx> Howdy, can I make tar read files from stdin (say, output from find), or --exclude=* --include=*.php?
[15:59] <kristianpaul> Is ubuntu okay with 1024x600 screens right?
[15:59] <Siegel-> hi need help. i installed the sims 3 through playonlinux. its installed and it appears in the list. i click on the icon, or i highlight it and click "operate" and nothing happens. like, the computer thinks, but then it stops and it wont open at all.
[15:59] <computerx> read filenames from stdin*
[15:59] <Siegel-> can you guess why?
[16:00] <kristianpaul> I got a netboot for my mother and with gnome3 (from other distro), the assitant was too big to fit on the screen.. :(
[16:00] <computerx> Siegel-: Yes, have you checked the wine appdb (google wine appdb sims 3)
[16:00] <urlin2u> UbuN2, what do you mean installing in chroot, the grun to the mbr?
[16:00] <Siegel-> computerx:  where do i do that?
[16:00] <urlin2u> grub*
[16:00] <kristianpaul> evolution assistant*
[16:00] <Konata> Oh, tensorpudding, why is the official source 2.8.8 (xchat) but the repos 2.8.6?
[16:00] <UbuN2> gentoo
[16:01] <UbuN2> im install in it from /mnt/gentoo
[16:01] <tensorpudding> Konata: because ubuntu packages are kept at a particular version, this is called a package freeze
[16:01] <UbuN2> and now its all installed ubuntu is seeing it when i do update-grub
[16:01] <Siegel-> computerx:  is that the command i need to type into terminal? but how do i know which one?
[16:01] <computerx> Siegel-: Well, in Google... The wine appdb is the best place to check for compatability issues
[16:02] <scarleo> is it possible to make a general fstab mount like /home/%u /sftp/chroot/%u (bind mount) and it will mount all users directory respectively?
[16:02] <klingelbart> do you know, how i can make my laptop execute a commend when coming back from stand-by mode?
[16:02] <Konata> tensorpudding, there's no chance that a precompiled binary of 2.8.8 would be available somewhere, would there?
[16:02] <tensorpudding> Konata: it allows you to avoid software version problems, because all the packages are tested and known to work together
[16:02] <UbuN2> says FOUND all my operating system but grub.cfg isnt registering it
[16:02] <tensorpudding> Konata: this problem has been somewhat dealt with by using PPAs
[16:02] <tensorpudding> Konata: you can build a package for a newer version of xchat
[16:03] <klingelbart> do you know, how i can make my laptop execute a command when coming back from stand-by mode?
[16:03] <tensorpudding> Konata: the ubuntu launchpad hosts PPAs, which are personal package archives; they host customized packages
[16:03] <urlin2u> UbuN2, you whole description at least to me is rather confusing.
[16:03] <UbuN2> windows is working fine but it will not see the other operating system
[16:03] <UbuN2> why confusing
[16:04] <Siegel-> computerx: how do i know which one is compatible? i have the latest version
[16:04] <Siegel-> computerx:  is it natty?
[16:04] <tensorpudding> Konata: since you're using 10.04, the versions of software in packages are all from early 2010
[16:04] <urlin2u> UbuN2, that is for you to figure out to be honest.
[16:04] <UbuN2> it says found the system but is not storing it in grub.cfg
[16:04] <computerx> Siegel-:  It's got more to do with the version of wine
[16:04] <UbuN2> ok
[16:04] <tensorpudding> Konata: for instance, you'll be using firefox 3, whereas firefox 5 is current at present
[16:05] <computerx> Siegel-: Run "Configure Wine" and click on the about tab to find which version you have
[16:05] <qin> klingelbart: By "stand by" you mean user inactivity?
[16:05] <tensorpudding> Konata: the software updates you install are only to fix bugs and security issues
[16:05] <klingelbart> qin: when I'm inactive, my laptop deactivates the monitor and some other functions. this mode is the stand-by mode
[16:05] <Siegel-> computerx: ooh you mean the version i have might not be compatible with the game?
[16:06] <computerx> Siegel-: Yes
[16:06] <Siegel-> computerx: where do i run configure wine? i dont see it
[16:07] <urlin2u> UbuN2, we have a bootscript that is helpful at times, this at the least will tell us what is there and what might be missing, pastebin the RESULTS.txt   http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/
[16:07] <bindi> ActionParsnip: do you think when running memtest, it will show on the external screen? the laptop has a dead screen, i was lucky to get it boot from usb :p
[16:07] <klingelbart> qin: do you have an idea?
[16:07] <computerx> Siegel-: In Unity, search for it. In Gnome, Applications | Wine | Configure Wine.
[16:07] <tensorpudding> Konata: but there is no PPA for xchat available
[16:07] <Siegel-> computerx:  i have wine 1.2.2
[16:07] <computerx> Siegel-: Have you read the AppDB entry for your game?
[16:07] <damno> tensorpudding: its in the repo.
[16:07] <qin> klingelbart: Propably, yes, that would be power manager area, you can add scripts to pm, moment
[16:08] <Siegel-> computerx:  i read on some website it should be wine 1.3.23
[16:08] <UbuN2> ok i will try thanks
[16:08] <Siegel-> computerx:  so how do i install that wine and get rid of the one i have?
[16:08] <computerx> Siegel-: As in, that's the latest version, or the version that will run your game properly?
[16:08] <tensorpudding> damno: of course, but he wanted to know if there were a newer version available
[16:09] <Siegel-> computerx:  i think the version that will run it properly
[16:09] <qin> klingelbart: You would start there: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerManagement
[16:09] <maxflax> Any experts in MBR? Think I've might have broken mine :p
[16:09] <Siegel-> computerx:  because also while installing the sims 3 it tried to install 1.3.23 but that installation failed. i proceeded to install the sims anyway. so i guess it WAS necessary. how do i do that now
[16:09] <urlin2u> maxflax, what's the symptoms?
[16:09] <computerx> Siegel-: I have Wine 1.3.26 from https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-wine/+archive/ppa
[16:10] <ActionParsnip> bindi: not sure dude, maybe there is a BIOS option to set stuff, or a keyboard shortcut to switch it
[16:10] <maxflax> urlin2u: Non bootable, just black screen and blinking cursor
[16:10] <bindi> ActionParsnip: nope, the keyboard shortcut is purely software
[16:10] <Siegel-> computerx: ok, ill look for it there. computerx will i have to reinstall the sims, or just try to run it on this version of wine?
[16:10] <ActionParsnip> maxflax: you can use the LiveCD to reinstate the MBR easily
[16:10] <computerx> Siegel-: You shouldn't need to uninstall it
[16:10] <klingelbart> qin: thank you
[16:10] <urlin2u> maxflax, fresh install?  Or did you install a boot default app?
[16:11] <klingelbart> qin: i'll read it
[16:11] <d_atharva> hi...how can I share my mobile broadband ?
[16:11] <Siegel-> computerx: ok, just run it on this version. now that my computer will have two versions of wine how will it deal with it? how can i delete the other version?
[16:11] <damno> tensorpudding: the development is probably dead
[16:11] <maxflax> urlin2u: Was trying to install ubuntu on my macbook air - after install it don't boot --
[16:12] <damno> tensorpudding: the latest release was on may 30, 2010
[16:12] <tensorpudding> damno: it might be dead now, but the version upstream is newer than in LTS
[16:12] <bindi> ActionParsnip: ubuntu has memtest .. but I don't remember seeing the menu on my external monitor, only after the OS started loading..
[16:12] <maxflax> urlin2u: Well Mac OS boots but not the emulated BIOS thingy
[16:12] <computerx> Siegel-: They should conflict, and the software centre *should* upgrade. You won't have two copies. If it doesn't work as you expect, uninstall the current one
[16:12] <urlin2u> maxflax, not sure there with mac installs, sorry.
[16:12] <Siegel-> computerx:  al right
[16:12] <Siegel-> thanks
[16:12] <Siegel-> computerx:  hope it works
[16:13] <maxflax> urlin2u: must have selected wrong disk to install the boot sector on i guess.. don't know how to fix it thou
[16:13] <ActionParsnip> bindi: hmm, not sure then. You could take out the drive, put it in another system and install then transfer back
[16:13] <bindi> ActionParsnip: I actually tried that
[16:13] <bindi> I don't know if it was messed up boot order, or something else going wrong
[16:13] <bindi> just wouldnt boot
[16:13] <maxflax> ActionParsnip: it doesn't boot my install disk anymore.. had a USB disk to boot from.. now it only gets black screen and blinking cursor
[16:14] <ActionParsnip> bindi: try setting BIOS to failsafe options, may help
[16:14] <bindi> ActionParsnip: I tried that too :p
[16:14] <ActionParsnip> maxflax: what GPU do you use?
[16:14] <maxflax> ActionParsnip: it's a Nvidia
[16:14] <ActionParsnip> maxflax: add the boot option:  nouveau.blacklist=1
[16:15] <maxflax> ActionParsnip: problem is that I don't even get that far so I can adjust the boot options
[16:18] <Siegel-> computerx: so how come i had an older version of wine installed?
[16:19] <ActionParsnip> maxflax: you do, you just need to know how
[16:19] <ActionParsnip> maxflax: grub is on the CD, which then loads the OS.
[16:19] <Siegel-> computerx: it wont let me install the new version, it says i need to remove the old files first. how do i do that?
[16:19] <bindi> ActionParsnip: i'm running memtester on the amount of free I had.. 190M <.< nothing so far
[16:19] <ActionParsnip> !nomodeset | maxflax just use the boot option I gave
[16:19] <qin> Siegel-: How have you installed wine?
[16:20] <Siegel-> qin through a website
[16:20] <vooze> Hey, trying to install globalmenu alpha5 in gnome shell (ubuntu 11.10) following this guide: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/09/get-global-menu-in-gnome-shell.html   - but the get this error: http://pastebin.com/wAkBTBXF (step5)
[16:20] <Siegel-> the installation wizard opened the file and installed it
[16:20] <man567> bagai mana nak tukar prosy
[16:21] <onlypython> I just installed exuberant-ctags, but when I do ctags -R, I get bash: /usr/local/bin/ctags: No such file or directory
[16:21] <urlin2u> man567, what is your native language?
[16:21] <qin> Siegel-: Open synaptic, in state filter, mark installed, and search wine, if it is not in synaptic results, you have to remove it manually.
[16:21] <ActionParsnip> vooze: oneiric support is in #ubuntu+1 until release
[16:21] <BarkingFish> urlin2u, That's Malay :)
[16:22] <ActionParsnip> vooze: you will get issues, Oneiric is pre-release, if you need a stable OS, use natty
[16:22] <ActionParsnip> vooze: emphasis on WILL
[16:22] <urlin2u> BarkingFish, cool can you direct them.
[16:22] <vooze> ActionParsnip: not really complaining about issues? :D just asking if someone have a solution
[16:22] <qin> Siegel-: Or: dpkg -l wine, and if negative: locate wine
[16:22] <BarkingFish> he's left, urlin2u - but if I can get a message from ubottu, I'll see if I can add it to his interface
[16:23] <BarkingFish> I don't think we have a malay language channel
[16:23] <ActionParsnip> vooze: #ubuntu+1 is where Oneiric is supported for now, the guys in there will advise
[16:23] <urlin2u> BarkingFish, not sure myself.
[16:23] <maxflax> ubottu: ActionParsnip: Did the nomodeset when booting the live cd to do the install.. now I don't even get so far so I can do that change..
[16:23] <dvz->  /wc
[16:23] <BarkingFish> well the language code for malay is ms usually, and I can't see one in alis, so I'm not sure
[16:23] <ActionParsnip> maxflax: I advised nouveau.blacklist=1    did I not?
[16:23] <onlypython> I installed exuberant-ctags with apt-get install, but when I do ctags -R, I get bash: /usr/local/bin/ctags: No such file or directory
[16:24] <Siegel-> qin ok i located wine, and now
[16:24] <BarkingFish> "my" belongs to Burma (Myanmar)
[16:24] <BarkingFish> !de | BarkingFish
[16:24] <rhsanborn> Does the wireless card ever go to sleep on ubuntu 11.04 desktop?
[16:25] <rhsanborn> I've setup ssh server and vnc, and after a while, I can't connect with either, I generally have to reboot the box ...
[16:25] <qin> Siegel-: Right, you might want to check (or redownload) package form wine site and check fot uninstall script of procedure.
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> rhsanborn: is it a desktop OS?
[16:25] <rhsanborn> Yes
[16:25] <Siegel-> qin thanks but im just not so good with all this vocabulary. im doing my best but i dont know what those tings mean exactly
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> rhsanborn: what  power and screensaver options do you have set?
[16:25] <Siegel-> i just want to uninstall something
[16:26] <Siegel-> why is that so difficult
[16:26] <rhsanborn> ActionParsnip: Screen saver turns on after ~ 5 minutes, but all the power settings are disabled.
[16:26] <qin> Siegel-: Well, normally it would be limited to: sudo apt-get remove --purge wine
[16:26] <deepblue> Siegel: what's wrong?
[16:26] <dsa_> how do I know my wireless properties? How do I know the name of my wireless driver?
[16:26] <dsa_> wi-fi
[16:27] <ActionParsnip> rhsanborn: hmm strange. There may be an option you can add to the wifi driver to disable power management
[16:27] <Siegel-> qin well that worked
[16:27] <Siegel-> it seems
[16:27] <qin> Siegel-: oh, really?
[16:27] <Siegel-> qin it said its removed but when i go into aps its still there
[16:27] <ActionParsnip> dsa_: sudo lshw -C network     read the text intensive sections. one bit will say:   driver=
[16:27] <Siegel-> qin: After this operation, 69.6 kB disk space will be freed.
[16:27] <Siegel-> Do you want to continue [Y/n]? y
[16:27] <Siegel-> (Reading database ... 180005 files and directories currently installed.)
[16:27] <Siegel-> Removing wine ...
[16:28] <Siegel-> david@david-desktop:~$
[16:28] <dsa_> ok, thaks ActionParsnip
[16:28] <FloodBot1> Siegel-: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:28] <Siegel-> sorri
[16:28] <Spaceman> orning all...
[16:28] <qin> Siegel-: Ok, do not spam, and pastebin: locate wine (in paste.ubuntu.com)
[16:29] <BarkingFish> Can anyone here tell me how to add something to ubottu's database please, so it can be used in the future?
[16:29] <teage> I want to log in by command line, so, do i delete gdm?
[16:29] <dsa_> RTL8101E, is it possible that it gives me this result? ActionParsnip?
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> BarkingFish: something like:     /msg ubottu !beer is Beer is a tasty beverage
[16:30] <Siegel-> i just wanted to show you what it said
[16:30] <Siegel-> sorry
[16:30] <Siegel-> but i dont understand why its still installed
[16:30] <BarkingFish> ActionParsnip, Brilliant, thanks
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> dsa_: the drive is in a little bit lower down, if the device is unclaimed then there is no driver loaded
[16:31] <dsa_> ActionParsnip, oh thanks!!! I get it. It says rtl819xSE
[16:32] <qin> Siegel-: Peste locate, so I can tell you.
[16:32] <qin> *paste
[16:32] <meway> Hello I am on lubuntu but the volume is not quite as loud as ubuntu. how can I fix this?
[16:32] <qmr> I have no sound after system crash... Why !
[16:32] <Siegel-> qin ok thanks for your willingness, i pasted "locate wine" and i got a bunch of lines. i dont want to spam, so tell me what to look for
[16:33] <meway> Does anyone know a good increased volume output program?
[16:33] <usr13> meway: Just go to volume control and turn it up.  And see that PCM is turned up too
[16:33] <meway> usr13: how do I get to volume control?
[16:33] <usr13> meway: alsamixer
[16:33] <spider-mario> alsamixer -c 0
[16:33] <BarkingFish> ActionParsnip, That command did the job, the edit I sent has apparently been forwarded to #ubuntu-ops
[16:34] <usr13> meway: Open a terminal window and run  alsamixer
[16:34] <meway> pcm 56
[16:34] <roberto> allo
[16:34] <qin> Siegel-: open: http://www.paste.ubuntu.com and show me locate, also you can: sudo apt-get autoremove; sudo apt-get install -f
[16:34] <roberto> allo
[16:35] <BarkingFish> hi roberto - can we help you?
[16:35] <qmr> seriously though, wtf happened to my sound?
[16:35] <misaq> hello everyone. does anyone know how to modify Ubuntu startup configuration related to mounting /window?
[16:36] <qmr> !fstab
[16:36] <Siegel-> qin i dont know what you mean when you say show me locate
[16:36] <qmr> misaq: edit your fstab file
[16:36] <misaq> I meant /windows
[16:36] <qmr> misaq: modify how?
[16:37] <qin> Siegel-: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && locate wine | pastebinit
[16:37] <qin> Siegel-: mean this ^^
[16:37] <samuel_sappa> misaq: did you mean mounting windows/ntfs file ?
[16:37] <misaq> qmr: I receive this error at startup: "An error occurred while mounting /windows"
[16:37] <theabyssdragon> Four or five times in the past week I've been randomly booted to the login screen. I haven't been able to pinpoint any particular program or action triggering it. Any thoughts?
[16:37] <usr13> misaq: find the line that has  /windows   in the /etc/fstab file and edit as needed
[16:37] <qmr> misaq: look in dmesg for the error ... or try manually mounting it ... sudo mount /windows and see what it says
[16:38] <misaq> qmr: continued: "press s to skip or M for manual recovery"
[16:38] <Siegel-> qin thanks. i pasted that into terminal, it did some stuff, but wine is still in aps
[16:38] <mordof> are there plans to get rid of the Classic mode currently in Ubuntu?
[16:38] <misaq> I want to cancel this mount forever because I think it is not cecessary
[16:38]  * mordof wonders how long the Classic login mode will be available
[16:38] <usr13> misaq: Check to see that the uuid is correct
[16:39] <qin> Siegel-: Did you by any chance get link in output?
[16:39] <Siegel-> in terminal?
[16:39] <qin> yes
[16:39] <Siegel-> nope
[16:39] <meway> ty usr13
[16:39] <Siegel-> qin, oh wait, i did! do you want me to paste it here?
[16:39] <Guest58894> Can someone provide a sha1sum of the Ubuntu 11.04 64 bit?
[16:39] <qin> Siegel-: Yes!
[16:40] <Siegel-> http://paste.ubuntu.com/681262/
[16:40] <gumus> Hello all , ubuntu doesn't recognize my built-in webcam. Can anyone help me ?  When I list pci and usb i got this
[16:41] <qin> Siegel-: pastebinit is program "piping" results of command to web, se we can see longer output comfy
[16:41] <theabyssdragon> Guest58894: f7b0d2b90fbd49794419338c2b9157c095b11bda assuming Desktop amd64
[16:41] <gumus> 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile 915GM/PM/GMS/910GML Express Processor to DRAM Controller (rev 04)
[16:41] <gumus> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Graphics Controller (rev 04)
[16:41] <gumus> 00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Graphics Controller (rev 04)
[16:41] <gumus> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 04)
[16:41] <FloodBot1> gumus: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:42] <Siegel-> qin i see
[16:42] <qin> Siegel-: There is no wine in your system, apart of menu, you should be able to install whaever version you want right now.
[16:42] <Guest58894> Thanks!
[16:42] <Siegel-> qin thats weird. do you think i should restart?
[16:42] <gumus> hello there
[16:43] <Siegel-> qin because its still in the menu
[16:43] <gumus> do you here me ?
[16:43] <gumus> can somebody say sth ?
[16:43] <qin> Siegel-: Will not help, you can remove menu entrie by hand, or use: alacarte
[16:44] <gumus> guys
[16:44] <gumus> people
[16:44] <gumus> How can I make ubuntu recognize my built-in camera?
[16:44] <theabyssdragon> gumus: you were recently muted for flooding, we can hear you now
[16:44] <qin> Siegel-: And you had two versions of wine installed already.
[16:44] <gumus> I got a question
[16:44] <CoJaBo> ...
[16:45] <gumus> Let's say. I have a driver whose driver I didn't install. So ubuntu doesn't recognize it. And I also don't know its brand, model etc. What should I do ?
[16:45] <qin> gumus: Did you try: cheese
[16:45] <gumus> I tried cheese it says no device found
[16:45] <Siegel-> qin thats crazy
[16:46] <Siegel-> qin how do i remove it manually from the menu?
[16:46] <qin> Siegel-: Not, really. What wine do you want 1.2 or 1.3?
[16:46] <gumus> is there anyway to identify my built-in webcam's model so that I can install its driver ?
[16:47] <Siegel-> 1.3
[16:47] <qin> gumus: By lsubs ID
[16:47] <gumus> qin: lsubs ID ? or lsusb ID ?
[16:47] <qin> Siegel-: Open: synaptic, search for wine, there are all version listed, choose yours.
[16:48] <qin> gumus: lsusb
[16:48] <gumus> I did it
[16:48] <anadon> How do I extract and diff 2 .vdi images?
[16:48] <qin> gumus: What is ID?
[16:49] <gumus> qin: ı got 5 different root hub ?
[16:49] <phong_> hi guys, why i can't install ubuntu on P8H67-M Pro  ASUS
[16:49] <Siegel-> qin how do i choose?
[16:49] <phong_> why why why?
[16:49] <gumus> qin: it's laptop's own camera by the way. I haven't plugged anything via USB
[16:49] <phong_> i can install on any other machine but not Asus P8H67-M Pro
[16:49] <tomodachi> phong_: because youre questions arent precise enough for us to give you any helpful ideas
[16:49] <Siegel-> qin and how do i install the one i choose?
[16:50] <qin> gumus: Sorry, did not read you too well.
[16:50] <phong_> tomodachi, it said something about missing medium live information
[16:50] <qin> Siegel-: Do you have synaptic open?
[16:50] <phong_> tomodachi, i can only install in vmware
[16:50] <Siegel-> yes
[16:50] <Siegel-> do i "mark them for installation"
[16:50] <gumus> qin: when I lsusb it says I got 5 different  ID and by the way it's my laptops own camera. I haven't plugged anything via USB
[16:50] <Siegel-> and then "execute" it
[16:51] <Siegel-> my ubuntu is in hebrew
[16:51] <Siegel-> so my translation might be off
[16:51] <qin> Siegel-: All good, and?
[16:51] <Siegel-> now its installing
[16:51] <ActionParsnip> gumus: lsusb     will give an 8 character hex ID you can use to find guides
[16:52] <Siegel-> qin it says its 3 files its installing
[16:52] <qin> Siegel-: Still ok.
[16:52] <Siegel-> i chose wine 1.3
[16:52] <ActionParsnip> Siegel-: close software centre and run:  sudo apt-get install wine1.3
[16:52] <Siegel-> qin but i still dont understand how come wine is still int eh menu
[16:52] <ActionParsnip> Siegel-: you will need TAB and ENTER to accept the licence.
[16:53] <Siegel-> ActionParsnip: after its done downloadin, right?
[16:53] <gumus> actionparsnip: Ok. Please enlighten me. I'm absolute beginner. Why do I list usbs in order to find my laptop's own camera? It's not plugged via USB ports?
[16:53] <qin> Siegel-: menu are a bit separated form appdb
[16:53] <ActionParsnip> gumus: lsusb     is a terminal command
[16:53] <Siegel-> qin which means its just a graphic symbol, but its not physically there?
[16:53] <qin> gumus: Do you want to paste lsusb?
[16:53] <gumus> yes but it's  considered as flood
[16:54] <gumus> qin: yes but it's  considered as flood
[16:54] <qin> Siegel-: Dead record, or obsolence
[16:54] <ActionParsnip> gumus: if you install and run cheese, do you see yourself? It may already just work
[16:54] <theabyssdragon> gumus: use paste.ubuntu.com
[16:54] <qin> gumus: in paste.ubuntu.com?
[16:54] <Siegel-> qin  i see. do they disappear by themselves?
[16:54] <gumus> actionparsnip: no it's says no device
[16:54] <qin> Siegel-: They should.
[16:54] <MeirD> Hello
[16:55] <Siegel-> qin ok. and now it says its installed. how do i open it? and how do i run the game on it?
[16:55] <MHD> I have lost my password and I am trying to revocer it with the single user hack in GRUB: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-reset-forgotten-root-password/  however I see no line starting with "kernel" what do I do?
[16:55] <ActionParsnip> gumus: or you can run:  sudo apt-get -y install pastebinit; clear; lsusb | pastebinit     what is output?
[16:55] <MeirD> I try to use ssh client to connect to another ubuntu computer on my lan... I try using the other computer's hostname (which I sae by running "hostname") but my Ubuntu says ssh: Could not resolve hostname
[16:55] <MeirD> saw*
[16:55] <qin> Siegel-: right, what game?
[16:55] <gumus> actionparsnip: I pressed the paste button but don't know actually where exactly i pasted it :)
[16:55] <John__> hi I am running ubuntu from live USB, and the audio is not working. I have the asus xonar dg sound card. how can I make it work with ubuntu ?
[16:55] <qmr> guys, really, how the hell do I fix my sound?
[16:55] <bsmith093> how do i grab every picture file as far down a s a directory goes recursively
[16:55] <Siegel-> qin sims 3
[16:55] <qmr> John__: tried alsamixer?
[16:55] <qin> MeirD: Use Ip
[16:56] <ActionParsnip> gumus: copy the address in the browser address bar and paste it here
[16:56] <Siegel-> qin this time when i clicked operate something opened. a playonlinix debugger
[16:56] <Siegel-> and it showed a few lines, and then it stopped.
[16:56] <gumus> actionparsnip: oh great http://paste.ubuntu.com/681269/
[16:56] <mordof> anyone know if Ubuntu plans to keep Classic mode available in future releases?
[16:56] <MeirD> ok thnx!
[16:56] <qin> gumus: ups
[16:56] <ActionParsnip> mordof: no, unity2D replaces classic in Oneiric
[16:57] <gumus> qin: ?
[16:57] <ActionParsnip> gumus: is the device attached?
[16:57] <John__> qmr whats that how do I use it ?
[16:57] <qin> gumus: lshw | pastebinit
[16:57] <mordof> ActionParsnip: really... that's a load of BS. do you know of any alternatives to Unity i can install myself?
[16:57] <qmr> John__: from terminal
[16:57] <mordof> ActionParsnip: I can't stand Unity
[16:57] <qmr> mordof: like a billion?  you could just use classic mode
[16:57] <ActionParsnip> mordof: install XFCE or KDE and use that
[16:57] <qin> ActionParsnip: coffee of pint?
[16:57] <ActionParsnip> qin: always a pint dude :)
[16:58] <gumus> ActionParsnip: it's laptops own camera. I guess it's attached ?
[16:58] <mordof> qmr: i was just told Unity2D is due to replace classic mode
[16:58] <ActionParsnip> qin: although it's tea right now, PG!
[16:58] <Siegel-> qin what is that debugger and what should i do with it
[16:58] <qin> ActionParsnip: Chilled Gunness!
[16:58] <ActionParsnip> gumus: is it enabled in BIOS and/or is there a switch to enable/disable it
[16:58] <theabyssdragon> mordof: there's nothing preventing you from installing gnome3
[16:58] <ActionParsnip> qin: Guiness Red!!
[16:58] <John__> qmr: yeah what about it  ?
[16:59] <gumus> ActionParsnip: I don't think so there's a button for that?
[16:59] <Germanaz0> Hello everybody, I've got an HP 5030 or something like that, would configure the printer to WIFI
[16:59] <qmr> John__: so ... run it.  is your card listed?
[16:59] <Germanaz0> I got some IO Error
[16:59] <qin> Siegel-: Well, at this pint you should be sent to #winehq channel....
[16:59] <Siegel-> j #winehq
[16:59] <mordof> theabyssdragon: ah! that'll work then. thanks for that, was trying to figure out alternatives so I could plan ahead
[16:59] <Siegel-> qin thanks ill try there
[16:59] <qin> Siegel-: Do you install sims form CD?
[16:59] <ActionParsnip> gumus: what is the make and model of the system/ usually the webcam attaches to the usb bus
[16:59] <John__> qmr: yes
[17:00] <qmr> John__: ok, go back and forth... turn up your sound, make sure it's not muted (m key)
[17:00] <gumus> ActionParsnip: just checking ...
[17:00] <mordof> I guess I'll have to do some research on which window managers I like on top of gnome *shrugs*
[17:00] <Siegel-> qin yes its already installed in fact
[17:00] <Siegel-> qin should i just reinstall?
[17:01] <Germanaz0> I got that error while configuring the Wireless HP http://pastebin.com/XMDdW9p9
[17:01] <gumus> ActionParsnip: What exactly should I say among all these specifications ?
[17:01] <qin> Siegel-: Wait. Have you installed it with wine?
[17:01] <Germanaz0> the weird thing is that I can print
[17:01] <Siegel-> qin yes
[17:01] <gumus> ActionParsnip: Intel Celeron 1.40 GHz
[17:01] <ActionParsnip> mordof: there is an unofficial fork of Gome 2 called 'mate'
[17:01] <mordof> theabyssdragon: gnome 3 looks a lot like Unity..
[17:01] <John__> qmr:  there is an output setting missing
[17:01] <mordof> ActionParsnip: good to know :)
[17:01] <M4d3L> hi. how I can know what is using port 8000 ?
[17:01] <ActionParsnip> gumus: we need the make and model of the system
[17:01] <aaas> mordof: are you a beginner, if so just stick with ubuntu stock because all the help guides and everything are geared that way... it may help if you're learning...if not nevermind
[17:01] <John__> qmr:  in alsamixer
[17:01] <computerx> Siegel-: Did the wine upgrade go alright? You on 1.3.26 now?
[17:01] <ActionParsnip> mordof: I switched to LXDE long long ago
[17:01] <qin> Siegel-: cd ~/.wine/dr<TAB> fine sims exe file
[17:02] <qin> *find
[17:02] <Siegel-> computerx im not sure. im on 1.3
[17:02] <mordof> aaas: been using Ubuntu for a while - i'm used to most of the defaults.. but Unity is one I simply can't accept
[17:02] <computerx> Siegel-: Well it clearly upgraded. I tend to keep wine on the beta release.
[17:02] <aaas> mordof: i actually kinda like it, but I'm not using it...why don't you like it?
[17:02] <gumus> ActionParsnip: Lİnux 2.6.38-11-generic (i686)
[17:02] <Siegel-> computerx ok, ill try what qin said now
[17:02] <usr13> What is the package name for Remote Desktop Viewer ?
[17:03] <theabyssdragon> mordof: I'm still using gnome 2.32.1, I like the look of unity but not the lack of contol. so I'll probably be sticking with gnome or xfce
[17:03] <ActionParsnip> gumus: you are on a laptop, right?
[17:03] <gumus> ActionParsnip: yes
[17:03] <ActionParsnip> usr13: vinagre
[17:03] <Siegel-> qin where do i type that line?
[17:03] <ActionParsnip> gumus: what is the make and model of the laptop please
[17:03] <mordof> aaas: mainly - it ruins the desktop background app I made
[17:03] <qin> Siegel-: wine --version
[17:03] <usr13> tnx
[17:03] <aaas> mordof: but you can just go to "ubuntu classic" at the login screen for it to work correctly?
[17:03] <qin> Siegel-: All in terminal, forgot that you have mouse.
[17:03] <mordof> aaas: the bugs it initially had while I used it are taken care of.. but the app I have that i've pinned to my secondary monitor background gets overlapped
[17:04] <gumus> ActionParsnip: oh it was one of the testers put out from factory. So it just says Style-Note
[17:04] <Siegel-> qin i typed it in termnial
[17:04] <Siegel-> nothing happened
[17:04] <ActionParsnip> usr13: if you are intending VNC over WWW, use an SSH tunnel
[17:04] <gumus> ActionParsnip: I  guess we r looking for a way to identify the camera right ?
[17:04] <mordof> aaas: yes.. but as mentioned originally, Unity2D is due to push Ubuuntu Classic out of existance at some point
[17:04] <Siegel-> qin how do i open wine now?
[17:04] <computerx> qin: I got him checking it in Configure Wine
[17:04] <aaas> mordof ah, what does your app do?
[17:05] <usr13> ActionParsnip: Good advise, and I will, (just working in the LAN now though).
[17:05] <qin> Siegel-: cd ~ and after it  cd .wine/drive_c/Program\ Files/
[17:05] <mordof> aaas: it's a local webapp. my snippets, google calendar, some RSS feeds, a notes app, my TODO list on projects.. etc
[17:05] <gumus> ActionParsnip: It's Style-Note laptop :D
[17:05] <mordof> aaas: I keep adding to it
[17:05] <aaas> mordof cool
[17:05] <qin> computerx: lets try to run this sims
[17:05] <aaas> mordof what language did you use?
[17:05] <mordof> aaas: I like it because it's blended into my desktop background like widgets are.. only because it's running on Firefox 6 i have full control over what it does
[17:06] <mordof> aaas: it's a webapp - HTML/JS/CSS/PHP, etc
[17:06] <Siegel-> qin i really dont understand where i type that
[17:06] <aaas> mordof launched with firefox?
[17:06] <qin> Siegel-: In terminal: cd ~
[17:06] <Siegel-> what
[17:07] <ActionParsnip> gumus: what is the output of: sudo apt-get -y install pastebinit; clear; sudo dmidecode --type system | pastebinit
[17:07] <Siegel-> now its saying i need 1.3.4
[17:07] <mordof> aaas: yes - launched in a second profile in firefox dedicated to that so that the toolbars and everything are taken out, it's always fullscreen - and devilspie removes it from task managers, etc
[17:07] <gumus> ActionParsnip: doing right now
[17:07] <mordof> aaas: my launchers for firefox force the default profile so as to avoid conflicts
[17:07] <qmr> Sound works in a guest session, it doesn't work in my login
[17:07] <qmr> WHY !!
[17:07] <Siegel-> qin nothing happens when i type cd ~
[17:07] <qin> Siegel-: version is ok, now: pwd (same window)
[17:08] <aaas> aaas cool
[17:08] <aaas> mordof cool
[17:08] <computerx> Siegel-: In Linux, if it's worked properly, it says nothing.
[17:08] <gumus> ActionParsnip: pastebinit is already the newest version.
[17:08] <gumus> The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
[17:08] <gumus>   linux-headers-2.6.38-8 linux-headers-2.6.38-8-generic
[17:08] <gumus> Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them.
[17:08] <gumus> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[17:08] <gumus> http://paste.ubuntu.com/681279/
[17:08] <FloodBot1> gumus: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:08] <ActionParsnip> qmr: what groups are both in?
[17:08] <Siegel-> pwd also says nothing
[17:08] <mordof> aaas: since you can register protocols in firefox to handle different things - i made a bash script to accept arguments and run programs, this way i can make links like app://gedit?<command line properties here>
[17:08] <ActionParsnip> qmr: ok then it's a CLEVO M5x0G
[17:08] <qmr> that's not relevant ActionParsnip, sound worked before the recent crash
[17:09] <Siegel-> how do i open wine? i dont get it. its in the menu but no icon for just opening the program
[17:09] <mordof> aaas: i intend to incorporate some file system browsing and launching of different things as well for convenience. media browsing, etc
[17:09] <fbdystang> test :)
[17:09] <gumus> ActionParsnip: It's http://paste.ubuntu.com/681283/
[17:09] <ActionParsnip> qmr: well you never said that so how was I supposed to know that....?
[17:09] <gumus> ActionParsnip: it is http://paste.ubuntu.com/681283/
[17:09] <mordof> aaas: Unity is more of an inconvenience than anything, since it interferes with the way that's all set up in terms of the window manager, positioning, etc.
[17:09] <aaas> mordof: wow, you might find once you go that far you might have to switch to another language
[17:10] <qmr> ActionParsnip: yes, I did say that.
[17:10] <mordof> aaas: nope - what i'm doing is entirely capable of fully integrating with the system
[17:10] <fbdystang> Hi all, I have tried to get trac installed and working on Ubuntu 11.04 with git and postgresql and failed miserably. Anyone have link to a tutorial for this? Thanks
[17:10] <ActionParsnip> qmr: I can't see it in all the text you have typed.
[17:10] <gumus> ActionParsnip: so?
[17:10] <mordof> aaas: PHP can launch command lines and pass results to JS, which parses and responds - and can launch GUI apps as a result in seperate processes
[17:10] <ActionParsnip> qmr: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[17:10] <aaas> mordof: so its like one of those system info background-thingies?
[17:11] <ActionParsnip> gumus: try finding guides for that model using the web
[17:11] <mordof> aaas: yes, but a lot more
[17:11] <qin> Siegel-: You with me?
[17:11] <qmr> I'm using natty
[17:11] <Siegel-> qin i am
[17:11] <gumus> ActionParsnip: with the 8 digit codes I have?
[17:11] <Siegel-> the things i typed were fine
[17:11] <Siegel-> i got no reply from terminal
[17:11] <MeirD> When I add my public key to a remote computer under .ssh/authorized_keys , when trying to connect via ssh, I get a pop up saying
[17:11] <aaas> mordof: but why would you want a file system browser when you already have one?
[17:11] <qin> Siegel-: Ok, crash course!, command: pwd
[17:11] <MeirD> "An application wants access to the private key , but it is locked"
[17:11] <mordof> aaas: once I get around to it I'll be replacing all of my menus / task lists, etc.. with it so that it encorporates my entire background on all monitors
[17:11] <MeirD> Why does it happen?
[17:12] <the_owl> hello
[17:12] <mordof> aaas: it'd be more of a media manager than a regular file system browser
[17:12] <Siegel-> qin i typed "pwd"
[17:12] <mordof> aaas: merges different sections into one, so i'd have things like "music", "movies", "web projects" etc
[17:12] <Siegel-> qin i got no reply
[17:12] <mordof> aaas: and have it displayed the way i want it
[17:12] <ActionParsnip> gumus: no, use the model we determined earlier
[17:13] <aaas> mordof cool
[17:13] <ActionParsnip> qmr: use this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/681288/
[17:13] <qin> Siegel-: OK, command: cd ~/.wine && pwd
[17:13] <qmr> right, that's a bunch of crap
[17:14] <ActionParsnip> qmr: why is it?
[17:14] <qmr> mainly cause it's installing random packages
[17:14] <ActionParsnip> qmr: it's simply a pastebin from: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshootingProcedure
[17:14] <ActionParsnip> qmr: so you think the OFFIAL documentation is 'a load of crap'?
[17:15] <ActionParsnip> qmr: interesting
[17:15] <Siegel-> qin OK it didnt do much. that command
[17:15] <qmr> Some of it is, yes
[17:15] <qin> Siegel-: Did you get output?
[17:15] <Siegel-> it showed me what folder its located in
[17:15] <Siegel-> i think
[17:15] <ActionParsnip> qmr: that's the official first thing that is recommended by the maintainers to try
[17:16] <qin> Siegel-: No, it has shown you what folder you *are* in
[17:16] <Siegel-> poooh
[17:16] <Siegel-> yeha the home folder
[17:16] <Siegel-> and then the folder named .wine
[17:16] <Siegel-> what do i look for from here
[17:16] <Siegel-> btw im reinstalling the game now
[17:17] <qin> Siegel-: Ok: find . -name *.exe
[17:17] <Siegel-> but last time it asked for 1.3.23 and this time it tried to install 1.4
[17:17] <Siegel-> qin i got lots of lines
[17:18] <Phong_> i'm so mad , no mather what i do the ubuntu wont let me install...on p8h67-m pro asus
[17:18] <qin> Siegel-: Any of them include "sims"?
[17:18] <Phong_> i'll put the error
[17:18] <Phong_> can anyone tell me where i can post picture?
[17:18] <qmr> when I meet mark shuttleworth I'm going to kick him in the bollocks
[17:18] <fbdystang> How can I tell if a channel has +m for moderation? I am trying to send a message to #trac but get ":Cannot send to channel".
[17:19] <Siegel-> qin i dont see any
[17:19] <qin> qmr: go to centOs cannel, please
[17:19] <urlin2u> Phong_, http://imagebin.org/index.php?page=add
[17:19] <qmr> gross, I deal with centos enough at work
[17:20] <qin> qmr: qin! It is spelled q i n
[17:20] <Siegel-> qin right now its installing the sims , like in the same window it would show up on windows. i mean the background and the images from the game. it worked before too but then it just wouldnt run.
[17:20] <ActionParsnip> qmr: did the command work?
[17:21] <Siegel-> it does seem to do it a bit faster though
[17:21] <qin> Siegel-: So sims is not yet installed?
[17:21] <Siegel-> it was
[17:21] <Siegel-> i uninstalled it
[17:21] <Siegel-> and now im reinstalling it to see if it runs with wine 1.3
[17:21] <Siegel-> cause i only had 1.2 before
[17:21] <Siegel-> buit now its asking for 1.4
[17:21] <Siegel-> does that even exist?
[17:21] <dexter_> weirdest of things: all my bookmarks, after an update, do not work, but if I activate tor, they work flawlessly, why?
[17:21] <ActionParsnip> Siegel-: did you check the appdb?
[17:22] <abhi01> can i play mmorpg games in wine
[17:22] <abhi01> that use the nprotect gameguard thing
[17:22] <qmr> ActionParsnip: I didn't run it, I don't want or need to install a bunch of junk
[17:22] <computerx> abhi01: Yes. I used to play WoW for a while
[17:22] <qin> Siegel-: By the way, you know that wine have list of tested games and stuff on their website?
[17:22] <Siegel-> yes i read up about it
[17:22] <ActionParsnip> abhi01: check the appdb for compatibility
[17:22] <abhi01> computerx thanks
[17:22] <Siegel-> many people reported it worked
[17:22] <Siegel-> i read it worked with playonlinux
[17:22] <Siegel-> which is what im using now to install it
[17:23] <Siegel-> which is part of wine, sint it
[17:23] <ActionParsnip> qmr: then all I can suggest:   killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.pulse       then wait 5 seconds and try a sound app. It will reset the pulse settings to vanilla
[17:23] <qin> Siegel-: Ok. well you shuld have menu entry for sims after install.
[17:23] <Siegel-> qin because i cant seem to find a way to just open wine. but when i type "playonlinux" in terminal it opens up
[17:23] <ActionParsnip> qmr: ~/.pule*   sorry
[17:23] <urlin2u> fbdystang, some channels require registration to freenode maybe that is the problem.
[17:23] <Siegel-> qin yes thats what i had before as well but when i clicked on it, a small tab would open saying "opening sims 3" and then it would disappear. as if it couldnt open
[17:23] <abhi01> it is at garbage does it mean it wont work?
[17:24] <tetsuo--> hello, i have a couple of deskop users on my system. but for some reason their accounts do not see the attached usb drive, how can i fix this?
[17:24] <qin> Siegel-: I think it is winecfg, but "wine /path/file.exe" start programs.
[17:24] <ActionParsnip> abhi01: yes, click the link and it will tell you what does and doesn't work
[17:24] <fbdystang> urlin2u: how do I know if I am registered? I assumed so since it recognizes me as fbdystang
[17:24] <Siegel-> qin what is winecfg?
[17:24] <Siegel-> ooh to open it
[17:24] <abhi01> ahh ok
[17:24] <qmr> I might just have to delete my profile and logout and login
[17:25] <ActionParsnip> abhi01: could see if there is a native linux client
[17:25] <Siegel-> qin but in wine /path/file.exe i should replace "file" with the file name, right?
[17:25] <ActionParsnip> qmr: its not all of your profile though is it. Try not to be a complete drama queen
[17:25] <qin> Siegel-: Rightto!
[17:25] <Phong_> ActionParsnip, take a look : http://tinypic.com/r/x2neop/7
[17:25] <qmr> .....
[17:25] <Phong_> ActionParsnip, please, i am so mad, for the whole night, i can't install ubuntu
[17:25] <Siegel-> qin another question, if this all works. will i have to run the sims cd every time i want to play? i guess so
[17:25] <urlin2u> fbdystang, you have to register a nic to be registered.  http://www.wikihow.com/Register-a-User-Name-on-Freenode
[17:25] <qmr> a)  whatever.  b)  I'm talking about dotfiles
[17:25] <ActionParsnip> qmr: youo don't need to remove all your profile do you...?
[17:25] <Phong_> ActionParsnip, no matter what.
[17:25] <america> que version de xubuntu puedo intalar en una pc vieja
[17:26] <Phong_> ActionParsnip, this is what i get: http://tinypic.com/r/x2neop/7
[17:26] <ActionParsnip> Phong_: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[17:26] <abhi01> ActionParsnip, says it doesnt run
[17:26] <Phong_> it works on other machine
[17:26] <ActionParsnip> !es | america
[17:27] <John__> how can I change the "close,minimise,restore" buttons to show up on the right ?
[17:27] <Phong_> ActionParsnip, am i being punished?
[17:27] <qin> Siegel-: Well, dunno, never played sims, but (if you have enought space on hard drive) it is easy to go around it.
[17:27] <ActionParsnip> !controls | John__
[17:27] <ActionParsnip> John__: there are literally THOUSANDS of guides for this, have you not found any guides online?
[17:27] <Siegel-> qin, not its not a problem to use the cd. just wondering if its necessary. i mean, its here. i can use it. but my question as well, how will i find out the file name? like right click the opening file and look in properties?
[17:28] <america> hola
[17:28] <fbdystang> urlin2u: thanks, I appreciate it. I will try it
[17:28] <dexter__> Hi can someone please help me?
[17:28] <ActionParsnip> Phong_: have you tested your RAM using memtest on the liveCD?
[17:28] <qin> Siegel-: It depens of "security" features of game itself.
[17:28] <Siegel-> i see
[17:28] <urlin2u> fbdystang, you can get your IP cloaked as well after a little while.
[17:28] <Siegel-> so i might not be able to find out the file name and thus not run in through wine
[17:28] <qin> !ask | dexter__
[17:29] <iText> the best web crawler on ubuntu?
[17:29] <america> ayuda
[17:29] <dexter__> When I try to install updatE: Unable to locate package updatees- sudo apt-get install update I get: E: Unable to locate package update
[17:29] <fbdystang> urlin2u: does that mean in gets invisible to users?
[17:29] <urlin2u> fbdystang, yes
[17:29] <qin> Siegel-: nah, some games requrie cd, some not.
[17:29] <xangua> dexter__: install update package¿ :S
[17:29] <dexter__> What I mean is I can't install updates without getting the error-E: Unable to locate package update
[17:29] <Siegel-> qin oh ok
[17:29] <ActionParsnip> dexter__: can you give the output of:  sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade     please use a pastebin to host the text
[17:29] <dexter__> xangua yes
[17:29] <tjiggi_fo> america, busca ayuda en #ubuntu-es
[17:30] <xangua> dexter__: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install upgrade
[17:30] <xangua> for update*
[17:30] <dexter__> ActionParsnip: Alright.
[17:30] <urlin2u> fbdystang, do a who is on me or look at mine.
[17:30] <qin> dexter__: install and update do not go toghewer well
[17:30] <Siegel-> qin it finished installing
[17:30] <dexter__> xangua the install portion errored
[17:30] <hallman> Anyone know why xorg sucks up 25-100% of my cpu? Seems to be a common problem, yet the many suggested solutions doesn't seem to work for me.
[17:30] <fbdystang> who is urlin2u
[17:30] <hallman> I've also looked through the ubuntu wiki on X troubleshooting, HighCPU in particular.. I find it hard to believe that it's a client application. It's not software rasterizing. I've tried various drivers. Logs seem fine.
[17:30] <qin> Siegel-: check menu...
[17:30] <xangua> dexter__: errored¿ :S i just understand plain english
[17:30] <Siegel-> qin now its asking how much memory my graphics board has. how can i find that out?
[17:31] <fbdystang> whois urlin2u
[17:31] <dexter__> xangua it gave me an error
[17:31] <ActionParsnip> hallman: what video chip do you use?
[17:31] <qin> Siegel-: lspci
[17:31] <Siegel-> qin do i type that in terminal?
[17:31] <hallman> ActionParsnip: I got an Nvidia 8800GT card
[17:31] <qin> Siegel-: always
[17:31] <fbdystang> urlin2u: how do I execute a who is?
[17:31] <urlin2u> fbdystang, not sur of the who is actually I righ click the users in xchat
[17:31] <ActionParsnip> hallman: have you installed the nvidia proprietary driver?
[17:31] <urlin2u> !whois
[17:31] <Siegel-> qin i got lots of lines, which one is relevant?
[17:32] <qmr> bah, deleted all my dotfiles and logged out/in, I have sound again
[17:32] <ActionParsnip> qmr: did the command I gave, work?
[17:32] <hallman> ActionParsnip: I've tried a few different ones.. I think the proprietary drivers were the original ones? I'll check
[17:32] <ActionParsnip> qmr: cool :)
[17:32] <qin> xangua: Why your question mark is flipped?
[17:32] <qmr> ActionParsnip: I said three times I wasn't going to do that
[17:32] <qin> Siegel-: VGA
[17:32] <Siegel-> qin oh i have 1024. it said i have to have at least 256
[17:32] <xangua> qin latin american keyboard
[17:32] <ActionParsnip> qmr: you only needed to remove ~/.pulse*   the other files have no reference to sound
[17:32] <qmr> "here install all this junk and see if it fixes your computer"
[17:32] <qin> xangua: ok, thx
[17:32] <tjiggi_fo> fbdystang, put a / in front of whois like /whois <nick>
[17:33] <qmr> ActionParsnip: no, because I removed ~/.pulse* several times, that didn't fix it
[17:33] <qmr> it was somewhere else.  no idea where
[17:33] <qin> Siegel-: Yes
[17:33] <ActionParsnip> qmr: the second command was different. I know you didn't want to use the big command I gave
[17:33] <Siegel-> qin ok again nothing happens when i click on the icon
[17:33] <qmr> oh sorry, I didn't see a second.  I've been dtaching and reattaching my irc screen
[17:33] <hallman> ActionParsnip: right now I got in my xorg.conf under Section "Device", Driver "nvidia".. so that's the proprietary ones, yes? Package installed, nvidia-173 I believe
[17:33] <ActionParsnip> qmr: you got the gold, you can restore your settings folders from backup to restore settings easily
[17:33] <qmr> I should have just mv'd things though.. oops.  now I have to fix up firefox again for work
[17:34] <qin> Siegel-: cd .wine && find . -name *.exe
[17:34] <qin> Siegel-: look for sims
[17:34] <qmr> now to wipe out empathy
[17:34] <ActionParsnip> qmr: d'oh. Shouldn't take too long though :)
[17:35] <_srp> while trying something php i got this error [cURL support was not found on this server. Please make sure cURL is enabled for PHP and try again], how do i install this?
[17:35] <tetsuo--> i have an external NTFS usb drive, how can i change its rights so all users have read access and one user has write access?
[17:35] <dsa_> ActionParsnip, how do I see the history of my terminal operations?
[17:35] <fbdystang> urlin2u: tjiggi_fo: I try typing "/whois urlin2u" into this terminal bar and nothing happens. What gives?
[17:35] <Siegel-> qin ok it just worked for a second btw
[17:35] <ActionParsnip> dsa_: history | less
[17:35] <dexter__> ActionParsnip: It's still going.
[17:35] <dsa_> lol
[17:35] <Siegel-> qin let me try
[17:36] <Siegel-> ill be back later if it works
[17:36] <ActionParsnip> hallman: can you pastebin your xorg.conf please
[17:36] <Siegel-> thanks for the help
[17:36] <tjiggi_fo> fbdystang, see the reply in freenode
[17:36] <improveupon> ActionParsnip: it appears that if i use another browser, the system does not crash
[17:36] <ActionParsnip> improveupon: sounds about right :)
[17:36] <urlin2u> fbdystang, I am not familiar with doing a who is other the right clicking a users name in xchat and looking that way
[17:36] <qin> hehe, totaly off-topic: "Unity is so awesome" by regular M$ hardhead.
[17:37] <urlin2u> fbdystang, basically the free cloak says unaffiliated
[17:37] <improveupon> ActionParsnip: so it is just that firefox was hogging memory? but it was not doing that before. for a long time i used it for days at a time and it was ok.
[17:37] <fbdystang> tjiggi_fo: if I type /whois tjiggi_fo i get no reply
[17:37] <loculinux> hey
[17:37] <fbdystang> urlin2u: ah ok, now I see
[17:37] <loculinux> I need help
[17:37] <hallman> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/73gBvRGr .. what if I install nvidia-current instead maybe? Anything I should think of to make sure it gets used rather than the old nvidia-173?
[17:37] <urlin2u> loculinux, what's the problem?
[17:38] <tjiggi_fo> fbdystang, see the reply in the freenode channel, it won't print in the channel you're in
[17:38] <pr0zoid> How can i remotely image by ubuntu-server.  I want to take a full backup of my remote server (all i have is command line interface).
[17:39] <andygraybeal> i have a general computer quetsion, maybe you could direct me to the best channel - i have a two dsl modems that run off of a UPS.  Should I bother trying to control the UPS remotely with a computer?  or should i just let it run till it shuts itself off?
[17:39] <edbian> pr0zoid: Do you have somewhere to store all that date?  (you can use scp or rsync to compress it all and put it somewhere)
[17:39] <fbdystang> tjiggi_fo: ahhhhh, hehe, I have never seen that before, thanks! Good to know for registering with freenode
[17:39] <mongy> pr0zoid, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=35087
[17:40] <urlin2u> fbdystang, it helps to register than we sort of recognze each other if needed.
[17:40] <aaas> pr0zoid as always it depends on what you want to do...did you wnat a server IMAGE so that you can restore it or do you just want to backup?
[17:40] <ActionParsnip> improveupon: again, sounds about right
[17:41] <RussellAlan> Does anyone have some time to help with specific bootloader problems? Grub 2 specific....
[17:41] <edbian> RussellAlan: sure, what's the issue?
[17:42] <ActionParsnip> hallman: you may want to add the resolution you use in the screen section in the display subsection
[17:42] <hallman> ActionParsnip: I'll do that. You think it might speed things up..?
[17:42] <RussellAlan> 1. I loaded live CD with /sda1 as Win7 .... then I had Ubuntu as /sda3 , with swap at /sda4 ... did I mess up when I specified the bootloader to be /sda3 ?
[17:42] <ActionParsnip> improveupon: I don't use firefox these days, maybe others can advise. I think it's an appauling browser
[17:42] <RussellAlan> edbian:  because I get no grub2 interface even with Shift held down
[17:43] <ActionParsnip> hallman: does nvidia-settings    show an error when you run it?
[17:43] <hallman> ActionParsnip: no
[17:43] <edbian> RussellAlan: Can you elaborate what you mean by 'specified the boot loader' ?  The grub (the bootloader) is actually installed to a hdd, not a partition.  However some parts of it do sit on a partition (/boot usually in the root partition) you typically don't specify this in the ubuntu install.
[17:44] <improveupon> ActionParsnip: well, thanks again
[17:44] <ActionParsnip> hallman: ok then run:  gksudo nvidia-settings      setup the display (even set the refresh rate) and then click "Save to X config file"   may help
[17:44] <RussellAlan> edbian:  okay heres how my tables look
[17:44] <RussellAlan> edbian:  /dev/sda1 ntfs Recovery
[17:44] <bennis> hey, can i install full on login screen themes? i have a CIA thing for a friend and am unsure how to install it. I tried ubuntu tweak but that's just the logo and background.
[17:44] <edbian> RussellAlan: ok, (all on one line please)
[17:45] <ActionParsnip> bennis: that's all you can change in GDM
[17:45] <RussellAlan> edbian:  /dev/sda2 (!) ntfs 193gb .. unallocated .. /dev/sda4 (key) linux-swap 1.95mb ... /dev/sda3 ext2 19;.61
[17:45] <ActionParsnip> bennis: lightdm is a  bit more themable
[17:46] <RussellAlan> edbian:  when I was doing the Live Install, it asked where do you want your boot loader to install?
[17:46] <edbian> RussellAlan: The ! on /dev/sda2 means you should have windows check the disk.  why do you have unallocated space?
[17:46] <RussellAlan> I pointed it at /dev/sda3
[17:46] <bennis> Actionparsnip: is lighdm a pain in the arse to set up?
[17:46] <edbian> RussellAlan: Your swap is only 1.95 Mb ?
[17:46] <RussellAlan> I was saving the un allocated for windows xp or a different copy  of Windows
[17:46] <RussellAlan> edbian:  meant to say gb
[17:46] <gratziano> hello all
[17:47] <ActionParsnip> bennis: its a package like any other, should be fine. Not themed it though as I don't think it's beneficial to theme something which is going to be onscreen for 3 seconds
[17:47] <RussellAlan> hey gratziano
[17:47] <edbian> RussellAlan: ok, I'm not familiar with the part of the installer where it was asking you where to install the bootloader.  Are you able to boot the installed ubuntu at all?
[17:47] <RussellAlan> no.
[17:47] <RussellAlan> That is why I am trying to setup grub proper
[17:47] <edbian> RussellAlan: Can you boot a live CD and use it to boot the installed ubuntu ?
[17:48] <RussellAlan> I'm on live rightnow.
[17:48] <hallman> ActionParsnip: xorg is still gobbling up all my cpu :/
[17:48] <RussellAlan> What would be the procedure?
[17:48] <ActionParsnip> hallman: are there any bugs reported?
[17:48] <edbian> RussellAlan: When you boot the live CD, early during the boot process there is a purple/black screen that has a man = keyboard icon at the bottom.  Boot the liveCD and when you see that screen press some button.  There will be an option to boot the HDD
[17:49] <edbian> RussellAlan: please use my name when talking to me or I will miss things you say :)
[17:49] <RussellAlan> interesting, didnt know what that was for
[17:49] <edbian> RussellAlan: sure :)
[17:49] <edbian> RussellAlan: We could fix it on the liveCD but it's a bit of a pain in the butt
[17:49] <hallman> ActionParsnip: to the developers? Yes, plenty. Since many years back. They don't seem to give a fuck.
[17:50] <RussellAlan> edbian:  so that icon would not appear unless i have had it installed already, or is that just an option to put it on the hdd?
[17:50] <ActionParsnip> hallman: could try the 185 driver to test
[17:50] <RussellAlan> btw, if your name is ed i like the world play edbian
[17:50] <hallman> ActionParsnip: I don't find the 185 drivers in kpackagekit
[17:51] <edbian> RussellAlan: that icon appears when you boot the liveCD,  it will possibly let you boot the installed OS (acting as grub sort of) temporarily this will let us boot so we can set up grub proper
[17:51] <edbian> RussellAlan: My name is Ed :)
[17:51] <ActionParsnip> hallman: could try removing 173 and install nvidia-current
[17:51] <hallman> ActionParsnip: did that
[17:51] <RussellAlan> edbian:  any buttons i should smash or just enter, space etc?
[17:52] <ActionParsnip> hallman: that's all I know then, maybe others can help
[17:52] <edbian> RussellAlan: the stick-man screen should react to any button
[17:52] <urlin2u> edbian, so the grub from the cd to boot the hd is after the first try ubuntu....etc or at that?
[17:52] <RussellAlan> gotcha
[17:52] <RussellAlan> edbian:  doing a checkdisk
[17:52] <edbian> urlin2u: I don't know wha tyou mean.
[17:52] <edbian> RussellAlan: windows checkdisk?
[17:53] <hallman> ActionParsnip: Yeah.. Thanks, you've been most helpful. Considering just switching back to arch instead..
[17:53] <ActionParsnip> hallman: I use a 6150 and use nouveau + kwin   works really well
[17:54] <urlin2u> edbian, when you boot a live cd there are two install gui's the first has a try, and check memory etc, if you hit a key at powering on. If you just let the cd boot you get a sceond gui later on theat is a option to try or install only.
[17:54] <urlin2u> that*
[17:55] <edbian> urlin2u: oh, yes, that's right.  What are you asking?
[17:55] <urlin2u> edbian, the exact area for the cd to boot ther hd, I didn't know this.
[17:55] <urlin2u> the*
[17:55] <edbian> urlin2u: ah-ha :)
[17:56] <urlin2u> edbian, or I have just overlooked it not ever needing ut.
[17:56] <edbian> sure
[17:56] <Hh2-Server> hello, is it possible to wake a computer up from sleep via a SSH connection?
[17:57] <ActionParsnip> Hh2-Server: there is WOL but it doesn't use SSH
[17:58] <Hh2-Server> ActionParsnip ah, well I kinda need SSH for what I'm doing, My laptop can't handle a HHD anymore, so I was going to boot it from an USB and use an SSH-X connection to my desktop to do everything i need
[17:58] <bindi> ActionParsnip: I fixed the gparted crash problem... got 11.04 instead of 10.04, it's installing atm
[17:59] <ActionParsnip> bindi: sweet :)
[17:59] <Hh2-Server> and I really don't want the desktop to run all hours of the night either
[18:01] <polygon-pusher> so after turning on cube view untiy is not showing at all in 11.04 what can I do?
[18:03] <mdmkolbe> The menu that is under the networking icon in the bar at the top of the screen has stopped responding (this is on Unity).  I can bring up the menu but nothing in the menu actually does anything when I click on them (they are not greyed out) and the VPN sub-menu is completely empty.  I've seen this happen before and it is usually fixable with a reboot but I'd rather not have to do that.  Any ideas on how to fix this permanently or to restart j
[18:04] <urlin2u> mdmkolbe, you running a tweaked compiz?
[18:04] <qwasgen> Доброго времени суток. Есть говорящие по русски?
[18:04] <mdmkolbe> urlin2u: not that I'm aware of.  I freshly installed a week ago.
[18:04] <polygon-pusher> is there a  keyboard shortcut to logout?
[18:05] <urlin2u> !ru | mdmkolbe
[18:05] <moes> Is a Nvidia G71 Ge Force 7900 gs video card capable of using Ge Force FX drivers
[18:05] <bindi> !factoids > bindi
[18:06] <usr13> Has vino replaced Remote Desktop [server]?
[18:06] <urlin2u> !ru | qwasgen
[18:07] <urlin2u> mdmkolbe, sorry for that there what release are you running and DE
[18:07] <slav3_kitten> awesome, installer crashed
[18:08] <urlin2u> slav3_kitten, have you a unallocated space and are not putting to many partitons on the HD?
[18:08] <mdmkolbe> urlin2u: release is 11.04, DE is Unity
[18:09] <urlin2u> mdmkolbe, try compiz --replace
[18:09] <slav3_kitten> is there any way to yea i have 2 partitions, it resized everything properly, got to "starting PC card services" and exploded
[18:09] <felicetufo> /part
[18:09] <slav3_kitten> 80 gig partition for ubuntu
[18:10] <polygon-pusher> whats the name of the default terminal app if I was to try and look for it in  usr/bin
[18:10] <urlin2u> slav3_kitten, 80 gigs unallocted are pre formatted?
[18:10] <urlin2u> or*
[18:10] <mdmkolbe> urlin2u: that didn't fix it.
[18:11] <sunilg> I m using ubuntu 11.04 I am unable to connect to my dell bh200 headset.Nor is blueman bluetooth manager working.Any solution??
[18:11] <urlin2u> mdmkolbe, hmm hard to say for me, without knowing the set up, there is ubnity --reset as well.
[18:11] <slav3_kitten> urlin2u, resized win 7
[18:11] <urlin2u> unity --reset*
[18:12] <urlin2u> slav3_kitten,can you imagen=bin a screen shot of gparted looking at the HD.
[18:12] <urlin2u> slav3_kitten, http://imagebin.org/index.php?page=add
[18:14] <bindi> hey, what is a good vnc server? one that supports viewing the main x session, instead of creating a new one
[18:14] <abhi01> so in natty narwhaal there is no menu? unlike gnome menu and it brings a box  where i got to type the name of the app?
[18:15] <recon69_lap> hi all, installing netbeans ide and was wondering what path to set for JDK , i'v found /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.6.0-openjdk/bin , does this seem right to give to the netbeans installer which is asking for a path to the jdk
[18:15] <iceroot> recon69_lap: sounds correct
[18:15] <iceroot> bindi: every vnc server can do that
[18:16] <icarus_> oO
[18:16] <bindi> iceroot: perhaps I failed then.. I couldn't get it to work
[18:16] <iceroot> polygon-pusher: gnome-terminal
[18:16] <recon69_lap> thx iceroot, chocs away and hope it works :)
[18:16] <abhi01> in ubuntu 11.04 natty narwhaal there is no menu? unlike gnome menu and it brings a box where i got to type the name of the app?
[18:16] <abhi01> is it so troublesome now
[18:17] <moes>  Is a Nvidia G71 Ge Force 7900 gs video card capable of using Ge Force FX drivers
[18:17] <iceroot> abhi01: try "alt + f2"
[18:17] <slav3_kitten> urlin2u, no net connection on that comp. anyhow /dev/sda1 ntfs system 1.46gb, /dev/sda2 ntfs 146.1gb /dev/sda4 extended 75.25gb, /dev/sda5 ext4 /target 72.5gb, sda6 unknown 2.74gb, /sda3 ntfs hddrecovery 10gb
[18:17] <xangua> abhi01: clic onn the ubuntu icon
[18:17] <fisix> does anybody know how to setup grub in /boot so that i can truecrypt windows 7 while still dualbooting ubuntu?
[18:18] <urlin2u> slav3_kitten, are you using the something other option at choice of install destination.
[18:18] <xangua> !classic
[18:18] <xangua> or use gnome classic abhi01
[18:18] <slav3_kitten> urlin2u, i just did the side by side option, then auto config
[18:18] <taiyal> what's a good piece of Ubuntu-compatible software that'll let me store arbitrary pieces of information indexed by person's name?
[18:19] <slav3_kitten> like i said, it got to starting pc card services before it died
[18:19] <recon69_lap>  no success using /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.6.0-openjdk/bin as the path to jdk in netbeans installers :-(
[18:19] <abhi01> iceroot and xangua i haven't upgraded to 11.04 yet but i heard that if i upgrade i cant bring the menu by clicking on ubuntu icon instead a window will open where i got to type the name of an app to open it. is it like that?
[18:19] <Monotoko> taiyal, sounds like a MySQL database may work? Along with phpmyadmin for easy viewing and adding
[18:19] <taiyal> alright, I'll check that out
[18:19] <abhi01> there is no gnome menu on clicking the ubuntu icon anymore?
[18:20] <urlin2u> slav3_kitten, I suspect you have a boot partition which would make 4 primaries, which is the max, you also if you have the ubuntu partitions formatted have to use the something else option
[18:20] <fbdystang> is gnome 3 coming in 11.14?
[18:21] <fbdystang> 11.10 haha
[18:21] <banjoben> Hey guys, I'm trying to get my sound to work on ubuntu 10.04. I can't even see any hardware in my sound preferences. Any suggestions on where to start?
[18:21] <dexter_> ActionParsnip: I restarted but it still doesn't work.
[18:22] <urlin2u> slav3_kitten, get  screen shot transfer it with a thumb or cd to what your using now and post it. If you force the partitions beyond the max allowed you will make your HD dynamic, or you have a gpt setup alreadt.
[18:22] <iceroot> fbdystang: yes but without gnome-shell
[18:22] <urlin2u> already*
[18:22] <dexter_> Can someone pelase hlp me? I can't isntall any packages.
[18:22] <iceroot> dexter_: please post more details
[18:23] <dexter_> iceroot: sudo apt-get install updates E: Unable to locate package updates
[18:23] <dancole> I'm try to parse python on a server though AJAX, but the python page displays a 404. It was downloading the file, but I installed mod_python and added the python handler to apache2. What do I need to do ?
[18:23] <iceroot> dexter_: what should the package "updates" do?
[18:24] <iceroot> dexter_: there is no package updates, maybe you mean "sudo apt-get upate && sudo apt-get install foobar"?
[18:24] <salty-horse> hey. I have an old feisty installation that I'd like to upgrade to natty. if I install from the livecd, will it leave my /home/ intact?
[18:24] <dexter_> iceroot: Yeah, that.But I can't install packages.
[18:24] <iceroot> dexter_: what package e.g.?
[18:24] <urlin2u> slav3_kitten, I will not help you I don't take PM's without a warning, nor do I take I staed this already statements as a working together attitude.
[18:24] <xangua> salty-horse: better make a copy of your data and fresh install ;)
[18:25] <dexter_> iceroot: installing htem from ubuntu tweak.... chromium, transmission....\
[18:25] <sunilg> I m using ubuntu 11.04 I am unable to connect to my dell bh200 headset.Nor is blueman bluetooth manager working.Any solution??
[18:25] <salty-horse> xangua, will do. thanks :)
[18:25] <iceroot> dexter_: what is the output of "sudo apt-get install transmission"?
[18:25] <afeijo> I updated a machine from 10.10 to 11.04, now it does not power up. It halt at the loading page, with the 5 dots
[18:25] <afeijo> what can I do?
[18:26] <slav3_kitten> urlin2u, first off i'm looking for a flash drive, secondly i mentioned i stated it as you may have missed it. i'm not too fond of people repeating the same requests for information that's already been provided.
[18:26] <slav3_kitten> if i cant screen shot, an exact text representation is just as good
[18:26] <dexter_> iceroot: It worked b/c I alread have the PPA but Tweak makes it easier. It's installing.
[18:27] <urlin2u> slav3_kitten, If I had a dollar for ecery time the other posted wrong information, I wouldn't be helping people here who have a attitude not acceptable, GROW UP
[18:27] <iceroot> dexter_: so its working fine?
[18:27] <John__> where can I see cpu uage in ubuntu?
[18:27] <iceroot> John__: top
[18:28] <slav3_kitten> urlin2u, not all people who come in here are idiots, i'm not fond of being treated as if i were one. i'm fully capable of reading as well as writing.
[18:28] <sunilg> I m using ubuntu 11.04 I am unable to connect to my dell bh200 headset.Nor is blueman bluetooth manager working.Any solution??
[18:28] <sunilg> Plz help guys... i hv been stuck for long time
[18:28] <slav3_kitten> i read the information, and wrote the information
[18:28] <dexter_> iceroot: I guess,  just don't want to install one by one. Ubuntu tweak said their were problems or whatever. After going to synaptic to fix it still didn't work. What is the command to install updates? sudo apt-get install update ?
[18:28] <urlin2u> slav3_kitten, k
[18:28] <pr0zoid> edbian: can i store it on the same drive or do i need to create a partition?
[18:28] <iceroot> dexter_: sudo apt-get install package1 package2 package3
[18:28] <edbian> pr0zoid: You can but your backup wherever you want.  Either one will work fine :)
[18:29] <John__> iceroot: thanks, you know how to sort it by cpu usage descending ?
[18:29] <dexter_> iceroot: What's package 1, 2... Do I insert a name?
[18:29] <iceroot> dexter_: to install updates use "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[18:29] <dexter_> iceroot: Did it change in Natty?
[18:29] <iceroot> dexter_: if you want to install the package transmission and firefox use "sudo apt-get install transmission firefox"
[18:29] <iceroot> dexter_: no
[18:30] <SJr> I have a Belken PCI ExpressCard, it uses kernel module sky2. It only gets detected if I boot  the system up with it. Otherwise nothing.
[18:30] <SJr> I suspect I need another kernel module
[18:30] <SJr> I have both dmesg's but I can't diff them because of the time stamp.
[18:30] <stercor> part w
[18:30] <iceroot> John__: using p or P (dont know exactly)
[18:31] <iceroot> John__: but if i am correct that sort-order is the default
[18:31] <gabo-tex> speaking spanish?¡
[18:31] <BluesKaj> !es
[18:33] <John__> iceroot: ok
[18:35] <arjunkumar> how do I reboot a desktop using crontab -e
[18:35] <theadmin> arjunkumar: You should use the system-wide crontab located in /etc/crontab
[18:36] <iceroot> arjunkumar: 0 10 * * * root /sbin/reboot   but that in /etc/cron.d/
[18:36] <iceroot> arjunkumar: and of course change the time to your needs
[18:37] <arjunkumar> thanks that will  work I think
[18:37] <SoItBegins> Hi, I'm installing Ubuntu
[18:37] <wildc4rd> evenin all!
[18:37] <iceroot> SoItBegins: great
[18:37] <SoItBegins> And I need a little help because I'm setting up for a triple-boot.
[18:38] <iceroot> SoItBegins: with which two other systems?
[18:38] <SoItBegins> Basically, I've already got the drive partitioned correctly, into three main partitions (1 for each OS)
[18:38] <SoItBegins> Oh, Mac OS X and Windows XP.
[18:38] <iceroot> SoItBegins: easiest is to install ubuntu at last
[18:38] <SoItBegins> Yep-- that's what I'm doing.
[18:38] <iceroot> !dualboot | SoItBegins
[18:39] <SoItBegins> I'm in the installer's "Allocate Drive Space" window now
[18:39] <SoItBegins> I just need a few tips...
[18:39] <SoItBegins> I understand that the partition I want to use for Ubuntu should be formatted as Ext3.
[18:39] <iceroot> SoItBegins: the first tip is to ask your question all in one line
[18:39] <SoItBegins> Oh. OK.
[18:39] <iceroot> SoItBegins: ext4
[18:39] <SoItBegins> Ext4, then.
[18:39] <theadmin> SoItBegins: ext4 is a better idea
[18:39] <theadmin> iceroot: Nothing wrong with ext3 though, don't confuse people
[18:40] <SoItBegins> What I'm not sure about is the whole bootloader thing
[18:40] <iceroot> theadmin: its the default
[18:40] <theadmin> SoItBegins: Should be the drive you install Ubuntu on
[18:40] <SoItBegins> I'd prefer to get away without installing any sort of bootloader at all, as my MacBook Pro already comes with one (Darwin).
[18:40] <SoItBegins> Or am I missing something here?
[18:40] <theadmin> SoItBegins: It probably won't boot Linux for you
[18:41] <iceroot> SoItBegins: you install grub which is calling ubuntu, the bootloader from osx and the bootloader from windows
[18:41] <SoItBegins> Hmm.
[18:41] <iceroot> SoItBegins: normally you only have to install ubuntu in the free space, the rest is done automaticly
[18:42] <excelsior1979> Can someone tell me if I take one cord from the power supply out of the hard drive in my tower and replace it with another cord with the same specs, without changing anything else, will it work? (voltage is the same, but I don't know if different COM will cause problems)
[18:43] <SoItBegins> OK... I'll try it and see if I can figure it out...
[18:44] <theadmin> SoItBegins: You need 1 partition of type 83 with ext2/3/4, mounted at / for the very basic setup. Separate /home is also a good idea
[18:45] <SoItBegins> @theadmin: Got that bit set up.
[18:45] <SoItBegins> Now, I should set the 'boot loader installation' menu to the entire drive, or the partition with Ubuntu?
[18:45] <theadmin> SoItBegins: The drive.
[18:45] <SoItBegins> OK, thanks.
[18:45] <theadmin> SoItBegins: If your current bootloader can chainload, you can use the partition
[18:45] <t4s> Hi. My external hard drive has a Russian k in it the name (probably from being hooked up to a Windows or Mac computer). I tried to rename it with Disk Utility, but now the Disk Utility is not responding (it's just hanging). Should it take long to rename a disk, or is something wrong? Would it be safe to kill the process and retry? Thanks.
[18:45] <theadmin> SoItBegins: If you have no idea what I just said, use the drive
[18:46] <SoItBegins> @theadmin: Got it.
[18:47] <ivanh> ahoj
[18:47] <pr0zoid> edbian: it seems like there are number of options for taking an image.  rsync. tar, systemrescuecd.  What i am looking to do is take a full back up then load it in a VM on my desktop.  Later on i may want to have a mirror of the prod server but for now a backup will do.  any recommendations given the above?
[18:48] <ivanh> quit
[18:48] <theadmin> SoItBegins: You do not need to use @, we're not on Twitter.
[18:48] <ivanh> quit
[18:48] <theadmin> ivanh: /quit
[18:48] <ivanh> qiut
[18:48] <rww> ivanh: try /quit
[18:48] <kyan> Hello. I've accidentally screwed up /etc/fstab so it mounts my root filesystem readonly every time
[18:48] <SoItBegins> After some slight searching, it appears Grub can chainload Darwin. No word on whether Darwin can chainload at all (except maybe Windows).
[18:49] <edbian> pr0zoid: since you wanna use the backup in a vm I suggest using dd and clone the actual partitions.  (e.g. dd if=/dev/sda2 of=/some/file.vdi)
[18:49] <kyan> How can I change /etc/fstab with it being read-only?
[18:49] <theadmin> kyan: Should be something like this for your root: /dev/sda1 / ext4 defaults 1 1
[18:50] <theadmin> kyan: Ah, that.
[18:50] <theadmin> kyan: Run this first: mount -o remount,rw /
[18:50] <theadmin> kyan: Might need sudo
[18:50] <kyan> theadmin: Cool, thanks.
[18:51] <kyan> theadmin: The reason I got into that fix was because I had to write my fstab from scratch and had no idea how :-D just using a couple of reference guides from the internet
[18:51] <RussellAlan> edbian:
[18:51] <edbian> RussellAlan: yes?
[18:52] <erkan^> is beta for 11.10 stable or unstable?
[18:52] <pr0zoid> edbian: when you say dd do you mean using one of the above tools to copy the entire device??
[18:52] <Gentoo64> erkan^, its not oging to be as stable as non betas is it
[18:52] <pr0zoid> not sure what dd is
[18:52] <theadmin> erkan^: It's... a beta. Unstable, naturally.
[18:52] <edbian> pr0zoid: no, dd is a command, a tool you did not list (or apparently know about)
[18:53] <erkan^> ok
[18:53] <urlin2u> erkan^, not stable  #ubuntu+1 is your destination
[18:53] <oCean> erkan^: well it's still beta, so unstable. Discussion/help in #ubuntu+1 channel
[18:53] <erkan^> i use ubuntu 10.04 now (-:
[18:53] <erkan^> thank you
[18:53] <edbian> pr0zoid: I gave an example of how to use it.  It copies data at the bit level.  It will make an EXACT copy of the partition you point it at.  This makes it useful for using the data to boot a VM
[18:53] <SoItBegins> [sigh] Another question.
[18:54] <theadmin> SoItBegins: Sure, ask away
[18:54] <SoItBegins> When I try to install, the system warns me that I haven't set up any swap space.
[18:54] <SoItBegins> I started life as a Mac user, and on OS X the system uses a chunk of your main disk space as swap.
[18:54] <SoItBegins> Can I set it up to do that / what should I do now?
[18:55] <max-reve> #linuxac
[18:55] <theadmin> SoItBegins: You need a separate partition of type 82 for that.
[18:55] <mongy> edbian, can you dd a partition while mounte?
[18:55] <Thomas___> Hello Can someone please help me? Synaptic says I have to fix broken packages before installing. I fixed via synaptic but it still doesn't work.
[18:55] <mongy> mounted
[18:55] <John__> what's the su password ? I am running from live USB
[18:55] <edbian> mongy: yes
[18:56] <oCean> John__: you should use the sudo command, with your (user) password
[18:56] <SoItBegins> theadmin: That's what the installer said, but I'm just not sure why that's the case.
[18:56] <theadmin> SoItBegins: This is SPARTA! Err, Linux.
[18:56] <theadmin> SoItBegins: Just the way it does things
[18:56] <SoItBegins> Ha, ha
[18:57] <Thomas___> Hello Can someone please help me? Synaptic says I have to fix broken packages before installing. I fixed via synaptic but it still doesn't work.
[18:57] <SoItBegins> Got it. Creating a new partition (~5GB) for swap.
[18:57] <pr0zoid> edbian: the challenge i have is that the server only has 10GB (75% free).  From my understanding if its a bit for bit copy i would need the 10GB and i don't have another drive on the server.
[18:57] <theadmin> SoItBegins: WOAH NOW
[18:57] <theadmin> SoItBegins: That's just TOO much
[18:57] <theadmin> SoItBegins: 3GB is way more than enough
[18:57] <Thomas___> hi guys
[18:58] <Gentoo64> hi
[18:58] <SoItBegins> Huh. I guess I'm used to running an old laptop
[18:58] <edbian> pr0zoid: that's right.  Where CAN you put this data?
[18:58] <SoItBegins> Where it had to grab 6GB just to stay afloat
[18:58] <Thomas___> Is anyone here?
[18:58] <edbian> Thomas___: yes
[18:58] <oCean> Thomas___: lots of people, yes
[18:58] <Thomas___> :/
[18:58] <Thomas___> Very unhelpful then.
[18:58] <Thomas___> Hello Can someone please help me? Synaptic says I have to fix broken packages before installing. I fixed via synaptic but it still doesn't work.
[18:59] <Fr4n> thomas__, try sudo dpkg --configure -a
[18:59] <Thomas___> Fr4n: Thanks.
[18:59] <oCean> Thomas___: you determined that from the 5 minutes you are here? Remember people here are all volunteers. Have some patience
[19:00] <Thomas___> oCean: Sorry, I am just bery Busy and this is important
[19:00] <theadmin> Hey, Gentoo64.
[19:00] <Gentoo64> hi
[19:00] <pr0zoid> edbian: is it possible to route the output to my desktop(win7) from the remote server
[19:01] <Fr4n> would someone recommend me a good music player? I've tried banshee and amarok, but these can't handle my music gallery.
[19:01] <edbian> pr0zoid: are you logged into the ubuntu server from the windows 7 machine?
[19:01] <Gentoo64> Fr4n, what do you mean cant handle it
[19:01] <pr0zoid> via ssh
[19:01] <theadmin> Fr4n: I use VLC for everything
[19:01] <Gentoo64> i use cmus for music
[19:01] <Fr4n> Gentoo64, I have around 130gb of music
[19:02] <Gentoo64> Fr4n, cmus will cache it, if your into minimal ncurses stuff
[19:02] <SoItBegins> Going to repartition for swap, then coming back later.
[19:02] <RussellAlan> edbian:  so whats the verdict?
[19:02] <SoItBegins> See you all
[19:02] <Thomas___> Fr4n: I ran it but it didn't do anything.
[19:02] <edbian> RussellAlan: Did you boot ubuntu (on the hdd) using the liveCD ?
[19:03] <RussellAlan> edbian:  to get grub2, does grub2 notice all paritions, i tried to reinstall ubuntu, but the downloads were taking to long
[19:03] <theadmin> Totally offtopic question, but hey, we're in a Linux channel so guess I could ask. If I create a GUID partition table, will Windows work on it?
[19:03] <Gentoo64> theadmin, no i dont think so
[19:03] <theadmin> Gentoo64: Okay, thanks
[19:03] <Gentoo64> theadmin, im not 100% sure though
[19:03] <Gentoo64> but i think its just linux and mac
[19:04] <edbian> pr0zoid: do something like this on the windows machine: scp -r user@ubuntumachine:/ "C:\some\place"
[19:04] <edbian> RussellAlan: You don't need to reinstall.  Do you have an installed version of Ubuntu now?
[19:04] <Gentoo64> theabyssdragon, my bad apparently it does work on win 7
[19:05] <Gentoo64> theadmin, rather
[19:05] <theadmin> Gentoo64: Failtab :P
[19:05] <edbian> RussellAlan: grub2 will find everything.  I will give you the command to install it if you'd follow my directions please.
[19:05] <Gentoo64> :)
[19:05] <Thomas___> Hello Can someone please help me? Synaptic says I have to fix broken packages before installing. I fixed via synaptic but it still doesn't work.
[19:05] <theadmin> Gentoo64: I found my nickname is best completed with "thead"
[19:05] <urlin2u> theadmin, some windows come with GUID gpt
[19:05] <Gentoo64> theadmin, yea i was lazy typing
[19:05] <Gentoo64> as usual
[19:05] <urlin2u> the adamix http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/hardware/gg463525
[19:05] <Thomas___> :(
[19:06] <bindi> is it possible to connect to a wpa2 accesspoint automatically, but with dhcp?
[19:06] <theadmin> Gentoo64: Well, I'm not too lazy to type out "alias rtfm=man" in my bashrc just because that's so much fun xDD
[19:06] <Gentoo64> theadmin, your adamix too
[19:06] <urlin2u> theadmin, http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/hardware/gg463525
[19:06] <Gentoo64> :p
[19:08] <John__> i'm trying to install nvidia drivers but this command doesn't work? sudo ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86-280.13.run
[19:08] <theadmin> !find netcfg
[19:08] <Gentoo64> John__, your supposed to install them from ther gui driver manager
[19:08] <Gentoo64> otherwise good luck removing them
[19:09] <theadmin> Gentoo64: Not really, just delete the stuff out of /usr/share/modules, mostly, and maybe some binaries from /usr/bin/
[19:09] <Gentoo64> well yea
[19:09] <Gentoo64> but i mean easy lol
[19:09] <John__> what gui driver manager?
[19:09] <Gentoo64> driver manager is easier to maintain
[19:09] <Gentoo64> i think its jockey gtk
[19:10] <Gentoo64> its in the menu somewhere / panel whetever
[19:10] <Gentoo64> additional drivers
[19:10] <yeats> Gentoo64: you're right - it's jockey-gtk
[19:10] <Ab-> guys, new to ubuntu here
[19:10] <Ab-> how do i set pidgin to autostart on pc boot
[19:11] <alexander13> Hello Can someone please help me? Synaptic says I have to fix broken packages before installing. I fixed via synaptic but it still doesn't work.
[19:11] <John__> additional drivers wont let me browse to one
[19:11] <Gentoo64> Ab-, there should be an autostart apps thing in the system settings
[19:11] <theadmin> Ab-: System -> Preferences -> Startup apps
[19:11] <Gentoo64> just add pidgin
[19:11] <yeats> Ab-: add it to Startup Applications
[19:11] <jawsnfl> alexander13 use dpkg command
[19:11] <kyan> Hello again. Now that I have the /etc/fstab problem fixed, it is booting to a blank screen. I do have a cursor, but nothing else.
[19:11] <yeats> alexander13: can you pastebin the error you're seeing?
[19:11] <kyan> What could be the problem?
[19:12] <Gentoo64> kyan, did it work fine before the fstab messed up?
[19:12] <Gentoo64> could be gpu settings, all of a sudden :s
[19:12] <Ab-> thank you Gentoo64 / yeats / the admin
[19:12] <theadmin> kyan: Do you have a separate /usr or /home partitions?
[19:12] <kyan> Gentoo64: No, it's a new installation made by mondo
[19:12] <Gentoo64> what is it with ubuntu and blank screens
[19:12] <theadmin> kyan: Make sure fstab mounts those properly
[19:12] <Gentoo64> kyan, who is mondo?
[19:12] <kyan> Gentoo64: It's running in a VM (in VirtualBox).
[19:12] <Gentoo64> ah ok
[19:13] <Gentoo64> thats... sometimes bad
[19:13] <alexander13> yeats: It just said I have broken packages
[19:13] <kyan> theadmin: No I do not.
[19:13] <alexander13> jawsnfl: I tried, but it did nothing.
[19:13] <kyan> theadmin: Only one partition, occupying the entire drive, mounted at /
[19:13] <theadmin> kyan: I see.
[19:13] <Gentoo64> kyan, try rebooting
[19:13] <Gentoo64> it might just wrk
[19:14] <Gentoo64> sometimes it glitches up like that
[19:14] <theadmin> kyan: That looks odd, but okayish... Try sudo modprobe -r vboxdrv to unload virtualbox's drivers, those bug out from time to time
[19:14] <yeats> alexander13: in the terminal, can you do 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade' and pastebin the output?
[19:15] <jawsnfl> alexander13 try the dpkg command with --help n choose what command suites u best
[19:15] <kyan_> Gentoo64: Mondo Rescue is a backup program http://www.mondorescue.org/
[19:15] <kyan_> Gentoo64: Reboot the VM or the host system? I have tried rebooting the VMB
[19:15] <edbian> RussellAlan: I'm here now :P
[19:15] <kyan_> I mean the VM
[19:15] <jawsnfl> alexander13 ie dpkg -p <package name>
[19:16] <Gentoo64> kyan, the vm
[19:16] <Gentoo64> idk then
[19:16] <theadmin> kyan: Rebooting the host won't help anyone
[19:16] <kyan_> theadmin: didn't think so :-D
[19:16] <kyan_> Gentoo64: Hmm.
[19:16] <Gentoo64> idk anything about "mondo" either
[19:16] <theadmin> kyan_: Try what I said
[19:16] <Gentoo64> so ill be quiet
[19:16] <theadmin> kyan_: sudo rmmod vboxdrv, for starters, to unload Virtualbox's graphic (and a few others) drivers
[19:17] <jawsnfl> anyone know how to write an email harvesting script
[19:17] <thomas13> Hello Can someone please help me? Synaptic says I have to fix broken packages before installing. I fixed via synaptic but it still doesn't work.
[19:17] <thomas13> I also ran dpkg but it didn't do anything.
[19:17] <theadmin> thomas13: sudo apt-get -f install ; sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a
[19:18] <Gentoo64> jawsnfl, http://goo.gl/wvZ96
[19:18] <kyan_> theadmin: Hmm ok. I'm afraid I missed the suggestions because the IRC client hung for a minute and I had  to reload it.
[19:18] <jawsnfl> gentoo64 lemmie check it out now
[19:18] <thomas13> theadmin: Thanks for replying. Trying now...
[19:19] <kyan_> theadmin: rmmod vboxdrv — is that going to break anything?
[19:19] <kyan_> *worried*=
[19:19] <theadmin> kyan_: It will just unload the modules for one session, do not worry
[19:19] <kyan_> theadmin: ok… here goes
[19:19] <kyan_> ERROR: Module vboxdrv is in use by vboxnetadp,vboxnetflt
[19:20] <theadmin> kyan_: I'm not sure who those are... But try killing them
[19:20] <jawsnfl> gentoo64 i need open source code if posible
[19:20] <kyan_> theadmin: no process found for both of them
[19:21] <bindi> can I change the display mode from command line? it's extend atm, and the main display is dead, i need to set it to mirror
[19:21] <theadmin> bindi: The xrandr command can help you with that
[19:21] <theadmin> kyan_: I see, meh, weird, I'm not sure how the modules work
[19:22] <kyan_> theadmin: Hmm.
[19:22] <eiriksvin> Can someone tell me why the Ubuntu installer would fail at resizing the partitions?
[19:22] <kyan_> theadmin: found a ref here: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:yxT0cVsZOSMJ:ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-720349.html+rmmod+vboxdrv&cd=5&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
[19:22] <thrillERboy> Hi, I use this script in .bashrc to display current git branch in prompt, if pwd is a git repo, I have a bug though, it outputs git --version in terminal everytime I start it, if git is not installed I get error everytime I strat terminal. Pls help http://paste.ubuntu.com/681349/
[19:22] <Gentoo64> eiriksvin, are any of them mounted?
[19:22] <kyan_> theadmin: different error but same goal: rmmod vboxdrv
[19:22] <skutt> Can someone help me to figure out how to fix "Missing modules (cat /proc/modules; ls /dev) + ALERT! UUID does not exist" ?
[19:23] <Spyder83> I'm having a problem with x server crashing. I'm getting "intel/intel_bufmgr_gem.c:941: Error preparing buffer map. Any ideas? Thanks
[19:24] <Spyder83> I have the log uploaded if needed.
[19:24] <bindi> theadmin: "Can't open display VGA1"
[19:24] <eiriksvin> I used the Ubuntu installers GUI for selecting partition sizes and it showed the Windows Vista partition, but when I tried to install Ubuntu along side vista, it failed to resize the partition
[19:25] <Gentoo64> eiriksvin, try installing it normall (making an ubuntu partition manaully) it will dual boot exactly the same
[19:25] <Gentoo64> and shoulnt have probs
[19:25] <eiriksvin> ok, I'm going to bring up Gparted
[19:26] <theadmin> eiriksvin: Probably a missing package with the program for resizing the specific partition type
[19:26] <eiriksvin> I'm on the live USB right now
[19:26] <jonanscott> hello. just got an Ubuntu system running openvpn (client) and wondering if anyone knows how to pass the username and password (maybe in the config?)
[19:27] <jonanscott> alas the --auth-user-pass does not work as it needs something on the server side, which I don't control
[19:27] <pdtpatrick> How do you install a new theme in ubuntu 11.10 ? Do you have to manually install it in /usr/share?  Because the current appearance allows now way of installing themese
[19:28] <urlin2u> eiriksvin, if you resize vista far enough it will want a auto chkdsk probably be prepared for that.
[19:28] <theadmin> pdtpatrick: You normally should be able to drag the tarball onto the theme list to install it
[19:28] <eiriksvin> ok, gparted shows all the partitions, I know I need a ext4 and a swap first, then I'll work from there
[19:28] <Spyder83> I have uploaded the Xorg log on pastebin if anyone could take a look and help me out. http://pastebin.com/FMzyGyxp
[19:29] <kyan_> theadmin: During boot I am getting the error message: [52.320000] piix4_smbus 0000:00:07.0: SMBus base address uninitialized — upgrade BIOS or use force_addr=0xaddr. Do you think that could be a cause of the problem?\
[19:29] <urlin2u> eiriksvin, how mant=y windows partitons do you see?
[19:29] <pdtpatrick> theadmin, right .. but in 11.10 it seems they give you a list and you either choose from that or you're S.O.L at least on my attempts. Have you tried it on 11.10 and that worked for you ?
[19:29] <theadmin> kyan_: Doubtable. I get that, that appears to be a problem with AMD processors in some way... Or maybe not. But for me X works and Xfce works and everything works
[19:29] <kescc> i uinstalled a program from wine, it uinsalled sucsess but the folder of the program in the wine folder meny is still there how do i remove it?
[19:30] <theadmin> pdtpatrick: Sorry but 11.10 is not supported here.
[19:30] <theadmin> kescc: alacarte
[19:30] <kescc> theadmin ????
[19:30] <kescc> what
[19:30] <urlin2u> pdtpatrick, #ubuntu+1
[19:30] <theadmin> kescc: That's a terminal command, run it
[19:31] <eiriksvin> well there are 4 partitions: fat16 (DellUtility), ntfs (RECOVERY), ntfs (OS), and unallocated
[19:31] <Gentoo64> eiriksvin, i dont see why it fails. but doing it manually shouldnt... as long as none are mounted
[19:32] <Vardamir> Hi, I want to create a shortcut to launch an application always with very high priority. If I write in the shorcut, or in a shell, "nice -19 vlc" vlc starts with 19 (very low priority), not -19 (the high priority). Can you help with this?
[19:32] <urlin2u> eiriksvin, you can only have a maxium of 4 promary partitions.
[19:32] <kescc> theadmin thx
[19:32] <sebsebseb> hi
[19:32] <eiriksvin> why would gparted have a red ! by the OS partition?
[19:33] <Gentoo64> no idea
[19:33] <Gentoo64> does it say anything when you hover on it?
[19:33] <theadmin> eiriksvin: Probably means it's mounted.
[19:33] <urlin2u> eiriksvin, or 3 primaries and a extended, for logical partitions for ubuntu.
[19:33] <edbian> eiriksvin: the partition needs to be checked for errors
[19:33] <Gentoo64> i think padlock means mounted
[19:33] <edbian> theadmin: a lock means it's mounted
[19:33] <recon69_lap> got the jdk installed and netbeans 7.1 going as well :)
[19:33] <edbian> eiriksvin: it means there are errors on the partition, right click -> properties for more info
[19:33] <Gentoo64> eiriksvin, ok so fsck then try it again
[19:33] <theadmin> edbian: Who am I to know? I use fdisk :D
[19:34] <edbian> theadmin: cfdisk ftw
[19:34] <Gentoo64> gparted ftw
[19:34] <theadmin> edbian: That fails on my drive randomly
[19:34] <eiriksvin> checking it now
[19:34] <urlin2u> eiriksvin, are you counting the unallocated as a partition?
[19:34] <sebsebseb> Gentoo64: yep :D
[19:34] <pr0zoid> edbian: appreciate all the help... got winscp loaded and connected to my server.  i'm doing just a strait get from the server to my local?
[19:34] <edbian> theadmin: :(
[19:34] <edbian> pr0zoid: You tell me! :D
[19:34] <alex-> Are there any alternatives to dropbox which work the same but you can host yourself?
[19:34] <edbian> pr0zoid: that's what the command does :)  You're the one doing the backup though.  Is that what you want?
[19:34] <Gentoo64> alex-, mybox
[19:35] <alex-> Gentoo64, www.myboxhd.com ?
[19:36] <thomas13> theadmin: It didn' work. :(
[19:36] <gaelfx> theadmin: you started a horrible, horrible thing, getting me on arch. I do like gnome 3 though :D
[19:36] <eiriksvin> shoot gparted is crashing
[19:36] <kurt_> Hi
[19:37] <kurt_> is anyone available to give me a hand ? I am using Ubuntu 10.4 LTS 64-Bit and I have a problem with the pre installed Empathy Client
[19:37] <tim__> i carnt wait untill 11.10 to come out
 yes
[19:37] <Spyder83> eiriksvin: Maybe try using parted magic
[19:37] <gaelfx> kurt_: is the problem with join/part messages? cause I'm having it too
[19:37] <alex-> 11.04 is fucked up
[19:38] <kurt_> gaelfx, I can not log into MSN using Empathy
[19:38] <alex-> 11.04 should be like 11.10 is
[19:38] <Ab-> teh initial theme after installation is fucked up
[19:38] <theadmin> gaelfx: You should PM for things like that
[19:38] <urlin2u> eiriksvin, cool make sure you put a exteneded in the unallocated, then logicals inside the extended.
[19:38] <Ab-> until u choose classic
[19:38] <kurt_> I get a red bar saying "Reason Unspecified"
[19:38] <gaelfx> !language > alex-
[19:38] <oCean> alex-: please mind your language in this channel
[19:38] <kurt_> "no reason specified" sorry
[19:38] <pr0zoid> edbian: i can see how this would work for data i want to back up but essentially i'm looking for a way to take a snapshot of the system (minus free space - since my server only has 1 10gb drive) and use that image to be reloaded in VM that i can boot.  my end result would be a dupe of my server in vm.
[19:38] <kurt_> does anyone know why Empathy doesnt like to connect to MSN even though it has the option to do so ?
[19:39] <kurt_> this is a fresh install of Ubuntu 10.4
[19:39] <eiriksvin> I can't resize the OS partition
[19:39] <eiriksvin> I don't want to use Wubi
[19:40] <urlin2u> eiriksvin, take a screen shot of gparted and imagbin it.
[19:40] <edbian> pr0zoid: then dd is the best tool to use.
[19:40] <alex-> eiriksvin, why can't you?
[19:40] <Kartagis> kurt_: in pidgin, there is the option "Connect on HTTP" or something. maybe Empathy has it too
[19:40] <Vardamir> how do you launch a process with -19 (very high priority)?  nice -19 launches it with 19 priority. [Using Ubuntu 11.04]
[19:40] <urlin2u> eiriksvin, http://imagebin.org/index.php?page=add
[19:40] <edbian> pr0zoid: Problem is it isn't a remote tool.  So you'll have to have to use dd (and have enough local space for the double) then use scp or rsync or something to move it over
[19:40] <Kartagis> Vardamir: nice 19?
[19:40] <kurt_> If i select "Advanced" in settings Kartagis I get "Server" I can change the server and then "Port" I can change the port used
 ok, one sec
[19:40] <Vardamir> kartagis doesn't works
[19:41] <tetsuo---> hello, i ahev a problem with a wine app and they told me i need " 32 bit gl/dri/drm libraries for your drivers" , how do i get these/\
[19:41] <Vardamir> i tried that
[19:41] <Kartagis> try +19?
[19:41] <Vardamir> don't work
[19:41] <Vardamir> too
[19:41] <Vardamir> nice +19 vlc
[19:41] <Vardamir> nice: +19: No such file or directory
[19:42] <kurt_> anyone know why Empathy doesnt connect to MSN accounts and says "No Reason Specified" as the error ?
[19:42] <gaelfx> kurt_: are you in China?
[19:42] <alex-> Gentoo64, Is their site mybox-hd.com ?
[19:42] <kurt_> nope im in England, United Kingdom
[19:43] <thrillERboy> How to check if Git is installed in .bashrc file? I mean what condition to I have to use, for an if statement?
[19:43] <gaelfx> kurt_: can you connect to msn using a different client?
[19:43] <kurt_> ill try 1 sec
[19:44] <eiriksvin> heres that gparted screenshot: http://imagebin.org/170873
[19:45] <bindi> how do I disable the keyring? it's stupid and it's in the way of my automatic wireless
just make the connection available to all users, it will get rid of the keyring flub
[19:46] <kurt_> gaelfx,  Yeah I can log in using other clients
[19:46] <gaelfx> bindi: you could probably set up your system to connect to wireless on boot up
[19:46] <kurt_> its just Empathy doesnt like MSN :s
[19:47] <urlin2u> eiriksvin, I yink you probably need to run a chkdsk on that
[19:47] <urlin2u> think*
[19:47] <bindi> eiriksvin: alright, let's hope it works
[19:47] <eiriksvin> so run win and chkdsk it?
[19:47] <pr0zoid> edbian: i guess i could resize the partition and use dd duplicate to the new partition then copy usind scp
[19:47] <gaelfx> kurt_: are you using any kind of PPA for empathy?
[19:47] <Vardamir> If you know the process name, what's the command to get the process number?
[19:47] <urlin2u> eiriksvin, yeah chkdsk /f/r
[19:48] <bindi> how can I add a command that needs sudo to be executed automatically?
[19:48] <kurt_> nope
[19:48] <eiriksvin> so run chkdsk /f/r at prompt
[19:48] <kurt_> It was the default install
[19:48] <urlin2u> eiriksvin, make sure your defragged as well, how much data is in sda3?
[19:48] <kurt_> it is pre installed with 10.4 LTS
[19:49] <ItalianStallion> hello i have a question
[19:49] <oCean> Vardamir: you can use pgrep programname (e.g. pgrep firefox) or grep the process table:  ps -ef | grep firefox  (example)
[19:49] <eiriksvin> idk, i think its probably viral
[19:49] <Vardamir> oCean thank you very much
[19:49] <kurt_> Only advanced settings i can change is the port number and the server name
[19:49] <urlin2u> !ask | ItalianStallion
[19:50] <ItalianStallion> if i install ubuntu with the wubi installer, will it any way affect my current windows 7 that i have installed?
[19:50] <velocirraptor> ok
[19:50] <Vardamir> oCean now I want to renice that process to -19 priority, how can I chain renice and pgrep to do it?
[19:50] <urlin2u> ItalianStallion, shouldn't but wubi is designed for trying out not longterm use.
[19:50] <dfjsfjdfgnsxdth> would b better too run it in a vm
[19:50] <ItalianStallion> what do you mean trying out
[19:51] <ItalianStallion> why would it be on the webpage then if it says its a installer
[19:51] <gaelfx> kurt_: dang, then I'm out of ideas, might wanna restate your problem so someone who can help might actually do so
[19:51] <kurt_> ok :( well thanks for your time anyway gaelfx  :)
[19:51] <urlin2u> ItalianStallion, read the designers comments.  http://howsoftwareisbuilt.com/2009/03/12/interview-with-agostino-russo-wubi-ubuntu/
[19:51] <gaelfx> sorry I'm not more useful
[19:51] <kurt_> lol its ok xD
[19:52] <kyan> theadmin: Sorry, the client just died again. Third time was the charm! Unfortunately, while it has booted now, compiz is not starting. :-( Compare the appearance of the windows in the vm and the host here: http://image.bayimg.com/najdaaado.jpg
[19:52] <eiriksvin> crud, I can't do anything on it right now, I just realized my aunt never gave me her password
[19:52] <eiriksvin> doh
[19:52] <kurt_> Does anyone know why my pre installed Empathy client will not connect to MSN ? I input my password and email and it does not connect saying "No Reason Specified" as the error message :s
[19:52] <urlin2u> ItalianStallion, wubi is a file inside of windows so it will take up space.
[19:52] <kyan> theadmin: the host has compiz working, while the vm doesn't. Any idea why, or how to fix it?
[19:52] <theadmin> kyan: Nope
[19:53] <kyan> theadmin: The error message compiz produced when starting is shown in the terminal window in the vm. Okay…
[19:53] <kyan> theadmin: thanks.
[19:53] <ItalianStallion> will it act like a second operating system?
[19:53] <kurt_> anybody here know how to fix Empathy and msn lol ?
[19:53] <eiriksvin> I have done this a 5 times, and every time I do it, I run into a bunch of problems... I'm still a Linux junky though...
[19:54] <kyan> What could cause compiz in a new installation to not work?
[19:54] <urlin2u> eiriksvin, not without gparted being able to read it, be careful here you could damage the vista without following a protocol.
[19:54] <jayson_r> kyan: you are running in a VM? what virtualization product are you using?
[19:54] <urlin2u> ItalianStallion, yes it is a pseudo dual boot.
[19:55] <oCean> Vardamir: something like this (with the example for firefox)  pgrep firefox-bin | xargs sudo renice -19
[19:55] <urlin2u> ItalianStallion, also get used to tabbing nics so we can tell who your addressing, and they are notified of a address.
[19:56] <kyan> jayson_r: VirtualBox
[19:56] <eiriksvin> I'm not going to install it until I have checked it, so thats just going to have to wait a couple of days... at least my Live USB can be used
[19:56] <Vardamir> oCean it works !  Thank you very much :)))
[19:56] <ItalianStallion> ok
[19:56] <jayson_r> kyan: make sure you enabled 3D acceloration in the Display area in the VM's config in VB
[19:56] <urlin2u> eiriksvin, good idea. :D
[19:56] <oCean> Vardamir: welcome
[19:56] <jayson_r> kyan: also, install the package 'virtualbox-ose-guest-utils' inside the VM via apt-get
[19:57] <kurt_> Does anyone know if i need telepathy-butterfly ? Apparently removing it enables MSN to work in empathy buy i dont want to install things I dont know incase i need it for other stuff
[19:57]  * jayson_r can't spell :-O
[19:57] <Guest5021> anyone know a safe site where i can download music apps that i cant buy right now?a place without viruses?
[19:57] <Guest5021> ya know if i was into that?
[19:58] <misterduck> Hello I was installing chromium but got an error:  chromium-browser : Depends: libgcrypt11 (>= 1.5.0-0) but 1.4.6-4ubuntu2 is to be installed E: Broken packages Can someone please help me?
[19:58] <urlin2u> Guest5021, we don't support piracy, but there are free download sites.
[19:58] <Phoenix87> is anyone familiar with the weak signal issue of atheros wifi adapters? I'm trying to switch from network-manager to wicd, but the former won't connect to a hidden essid
[19:59] <kurt_> lol is anyone available ? :P
[19:59] <kyan> Guest5021: libermusica is pretty awesome. Free music and audiobooks, all under free licenses
[20:00] <urlin2u> kurt_, yes and will answer possibly if they know, relax
[20:00] <jorian> who
[20:00] <misterduck> Hi can someone please help me?
[20:00] <kurt_> lol ok xD
[20:00] <urlin2u> misterduck, yes and will answer possibly if they know, relax
[20:00] <Guest5021> kurt_: well what about extra add-ons to something like sonar le and xe for windows?
[20:01] <root_> which other tools then GNOME are possible?
[20:01] <knittl> hi. i don't have sound in wine (deus ex). any idea where to look for causes?
[20:01] <urlin2u> root_, for what?
[20:01] <kurt_> Guest5021, huh ? xD
[20:01] <knittl> sound test in winecfg works (but crackles, is this normal?)
[20:01] <misterduck> urlin2u: I have been on for over an hour now and no one has helped me. I'm being as patient as I can.
[20:01] <root_> lucid lynx
[20:01] <jbeatty> I recently uninstalled Amarok from my machine, but upon finding that Clementine is not available for my release, I tried to reinstall it to get this error. http://pastie.org/2477447 Unfortunately, I'm setting this up for my friend and I am not an Ubuntu user so I have no idea what this is telling me.
[20:02] <urlin2u> misterduck, and begging will get you know where. If somebody knows they will answer.
[20:02] <Vardamir> What's the way to start and application directly with very high priority? (nice -19)  nice -19 appname makes just the opposite
[20:02] <Guest5021> knittl: sorry sonar is a digital audio workstation and there are all kinds of ionstrument programs and effects that dont come with the software any sites that might have downloads of that kinda stuff?
[20:02] <abhi01> why did they make that unity menu window so large why not a sleek bar which would contain the programs
[20:02] <jayson_r> misterduck: sorry I don't have an anwer for you - perhaps someone will later
[20:02] <abhi01> below the ubuntu icon
[20:02] <misterduck> urlin2u: I am not beggin but it is outrageously sad that alot of people are on this channel but no one can help.
[20:03] <knittl> Guest5021: wth?
[20:03] <misterduck> jayson_r: It's alright. Thank you/
[20:03] <jayson_r> misterduck: have you by any chance installed anything outside of the standard repos that might have messed w/ your installed packages for dependancies?
[20:03] <t4s> Hi. I can't mount my external hard drive. It says "The device is busy. A job is pending on /dev/sdb1". Is there a way to see which job is running or what is going on?
[20:03] <urlin2u> misterduck, your now getting to a quiet or ban be careful.
[20:03] <misterduck> jayson_r: Ubuntu tweak told me I had problems with my packages
[20:03] <theadmin> Vardamir: I think you need "nice -n 19"
[20:04] <jbeatty> misterduck: you're right, it is pretty outrageous. You should demand your money back.
[20:04] <theadmin> Vardamir: Err, "nice -n -19" or whatever
[20:04] <urlin2u> !pm | root_
[20:04] <Guest5021> knittl: what?
[20:04] <jayson_r> misterduck: you might also try putting a post up on the forums - it's not realtime, but a lot of folks check there as well. maybe you'll get a hit
[20:04] <Vardamir> theadmin I tried that but it starts vlc with nice 0
[20:04] <root_> oaky
[20:04] <knittl> Guest5021: I don't see how your response has anything to do with my question except mocking me
[20:04] <misterduck> jayson_r:  Thank you.
[20:04] <Phoenix87> is anyone familiar with the weak signal issue of atheros wifi adapters? I'm trying to switch from network-manager to wicd, but the former won't connect to a hidden essid
[20:04] <urlin2u> root_, you need to tab nics so we see you have replied this channel is very busy.
[20:05] <kurt_> Empathy does not connect to MSN Messenger with default settings error message says "Disconected - No Reason Specified" any ideas ?
[20:05] <Guest5021> knittl: no no i was not trying to mock you,i just am confused what your asking me about,sorry
[20:05] <Vardamir> theadmin is very strange there is no an easy way to start a process with high priority
[20:05] <root_> How can i do this?
[20:05] <urlin2u> root_, when I said for what I meant what tasks.
[20:05] <knittl> Guest5021: you highlighted me first
[20:06] <theadmin> Vardamir: Only root can nice to lower than 0, actually
[20:06] <theadmin> Vardamir: So...
[20:06] <root_> sorry Im quite new in ubuntu
[20:06] <urlin2u> root_, type the first couple of letters of the nic then hit tab
[20:06] <Vardamir> theadmin I understand
[20:06] <Vardamir> theadmin that's was the problem, thank you ! :)
[20:06] <root_> urlin2u: okay thanks :)
[20:06] <abhi01> kurt_ use pidgin
[20:06] <urlin2u> root_, thats it you have got it, and welcome to open source. :D
[20:07] <root_> urlin2u: are there any other tools like GNOME?
[20:07] <kurt_> hmm so there is no fix for empathy and msn abhi01 ? :s
[20:07] <theadmin> Vardamir: After VLC is started, just do "sudo renice -n -19 -p $(pidof vlc)"
[20:07] <robin0800> abhi01, if you mean the launcher it can be resized
[20:07] <abhi01> kurt_ i cant access yahoo chat in empathy do trashed it for pidgin
[20:07] <urlin2u> root_, gnome is a desktop, what is it you need tools for.
[20:07] <kurt_> ahh ok :(
[20:08] <abhi01> robin0800 it can be? nice to know
[20:08] <Vardamir> theadmin ok ... but I would like I can configure something so application always starts with high priority, just double click in an icon and run ...
[20:08] <kurt_> howcome empathy is the default IM client for Ubuntu if it doesnt work as it should ? :s
[20:08] <theadmin> Vardamir: You could write a script
[20:08] <ehte> does lubuntu support vlc player
[20:08] <S0LIDUS> Hello people!
[20:08] <urlin2u> ehte, yes
[20:08] <abhi01> kurt_ i think they made pidgin default in 11.04 but not sure ask someone
[20:08] <ehte> thanks
[20:08] <Vardamir> theadmin but you have to sudo it ... so I can't to it with an icon
[20:08] <abhi01> kurt_ they should have vlc media player as well. their default movie player sucks
[20:08] <kurt_> ahh ok cus i still use 10.4 LTS and it comes with empathy
[20:09] <kurt_> lol
[20:09] <urlin2u> ehte, lubuntu is ubuntu with the lubuntu desktop.
[20:09] <root_> urlin2u: are there any other desktops?
[20:09] <Guest5021> knittl: oh i thought u recomended a site where i could download sonar  instruments and add-ons
[20:09] <abhi01> kurt_ their media player is fail. doesnt even play mp3
[20:09] <Vardamir> theadmin I want any user in this machine launch by default that app with high priority
[20:09] <ehte> yea i just started using so im learning it
[20:09] <theadmin> Vardamir: Hm, actually if you add a line similar to "%admin ALL=(ALL) ALL, NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/renice" to your sudoers...
[20:09] <kurt_> you need to install codec to play mp3 in their default media player abhi01  i think
[20:09] <urlin2u> root_, there is ubuntu, kubuntu, lubuntu, and xubuntu
[20:09] <theadmin> Vardamir: Could well work
[20:10] <abhi01> kurt_ i installed vlc. cant use that terrible player
[20:10] <kurt_> lol ok xD
[20:10] <urlin2u> root_, and others like openbox, and other small desktops.
[20:10] <Vardamir> theadmin mm .... it looks good, I don't know that syntax. What file I have to edit to do it?
[20:10] <ttf1> urlin2u: okay and how do they differ?
[20:10] <theadmin> Vardamir: Run "EDITOR=nano visudo"
[20:10] <abhi01> kurt_ it was redirecting me to buy some codecs to play dvd. wtf!
[20:10] <theadmin> Vardamir: Put that line at the end
[20:10] <kurt_> but yeah i think i might have to ditch empathy for pidgin or something abhi01, cant find a solution anywhere to get msn working on it lol
[20:11] <tmandry> how do I stop kdm from being started after the system boots?
[20:11] <kurt_> abhi01, lol wtf xD was free for me :P
[20:11] <theadmin> tmandry: sudo mv /etc/init/kdm.conf /etc/init/kdm.DISABLED
[20:11] <abhi01> kurt_ some page came idk it was free or not to play dvd ;)
[20:11] <kurt_> abhi01,  you are using ubuntu right ? Only distro i seen that wanted money for codecs was Mandriva xD
[20:11] <abhi01> kurt_ and i cancelled it and installed vlc
[20:11] <urlin2u> ttf1, to exstensive to really discuss here the web would be a better source, this is for specific help, the #ubuntu-offtopic might help.
[20:11] <guntbert> ttf1: did anyone tell you that it is a very bad idea ™ to irc as root?
[20:11] <kurt_> lol :P
[20:11] <freebird> you guys, when it asks to download flash player, thru the browser, when it's about to open, it asks me to choose an app that will handle the installation, which app should I choose ?
[20:12] <abhi01> kurt_ they also show terrible google ads in firefox. canonical is trying to make a few bucks
[20:12] <ttf1> urlin2u: no, why?
[20:12] <kurt_> hmm
[20:12] <urlin2u> freebird, you using flash aid  choose bets
[20:12] <kurt_> use adblock plus :P
[20:12] <ttf1> guntbert: no, why
[20:12] <urlin2u> freebird, bets*
[20:12] <Vardamir> theadmin done... how can I save the file?
[20:13] <theadmin> Vardamir: The shortcuts are at the bottom :D
[20:13] <abhi01> kurt_ lol the ads are shown when u search using firefox and canonical gets the money
[20:13] <urlin2u> freebird, beta*
[20:13] <kurt_> ohh
[20:13] <ttf1> urlin2u: sorry, wrong target ^^
[20:13] <Vardamir> theadmin writeout ...
[20:13] <theadmin> Vardamir: Yeah.
[20:13] <tmandry> theadmin: there's not a cleaner way?
[20:13] <theadmin> Vardamir: ^O means Ctrl-O
[20:13] <theadmin> tmandry: That's rather clean, imo
[20:13] <abhi01> kurt_ thats why they ship free cds to users so that they can earn money through google adsense
[20:13] <Guest5021> anyone know where free safe software downloads can be found for all operating systems?
[20:13] <kurt_> i dont mind if canonical want to make money lol just install a default im client that works :P
[20:13] <Phoenix87> is anyone familiar with the weak signal issue of atheros wifi adapters? I'm trying to switch from network-manager to wicd, but the former won't connect to a hidden essid
[20:13] <Gaerik> I'm using Ubuntu 11.04 on an Acer Aspire 7745G.  I can't get the internal microphone to work.  In sound preferences it isn't muted and it is set to "Internal Microphone" but the input levels never budge when I talk into the mic.  Can anyone help me out here?
[20:13] <Vardamir> theadmin ok ... done . Now I test the script ....
[20:13] <ttf1> guntbert: what is bad with run irssi as root?
[20:13] <kurt_> ohh ok
[20:13] <freebird> urlin2u, where would that be ?
[20:14] <freebird> I don't have it in here,
[20:14] <guntbert> ttf1: the linux concept of user permissions is based on the fact that a normal user cannot do much harm to the system, running all programs as root invalidates that...
[20:14] <freebird> where shows me nothing
[20:14] <urlin2u> Guest5021, two many to list look on the web and decide for yourself, if it is 3rd party be aware.
[20:14] <freebird> urlin2u, l
[20:14] <abhi01> kurt_ isn't it bad to ship cds to users inorder to make money via adsense xD
[20:14] <vooze> I just installed gnome-shell + gnome3 on 11.04 qne qll is fine, but just one thing.. when I add software its good, but when i log out and back in, its gone from the gnome-shell (i can start just fine with terminal) anyone tryed this?
[20:14] <kurt_> lol i dunno xD
[20:14] <urlin2u> freebird, are you using flash aid if not install that add on, ot the ubuntu-redtricted-extras
[20:14] <guntbert> ttf1: btw what system are you running?
[20:15] <kurt_> probably depends on if you need a free cd or not xD
[20:15] <urlin2u> or* freebird
[20:15] <Vardamir> theadmin aaarggg still nice 0 ! maybe I have to restart pc?
[20:15] <theadmin> Vardamir: No, shouldn't have to
[20:15] <urlin2u> !pm | beelzebud
[20:15] <abhi01> kurt_ and call it free to copy and free to make canonical earn more money lmao
[20:15] <abhi01> xD
[20:15] <ttf1> guntbert: yeah right, i just started irssi in my already opened term, and i forgot that i was logged as root ^
[20:15] <Vardamir> theadmin the script is ...
[20:15] <Vardamir> vlc &&
[20:15] <Vardamir> pgrep vlc | xargs renice -19
[20:15] <kurt_> lol
[20:16] <ttf1> guntbert: lucid lynx, why?
[20:16] <abhi01> kurt_ atleast their older versions of ubuntu did not show ads
[20:16] <abhi01> kurt_ custom ads in firefox
[20:16] <kurt_> hmm
[20:16] <theadmin> Vardamir: What on earth is... that for? renice -19 -p $(pidof vlc)
[20:16] <kurt_> I havent noticed any but I havent used anything later than 10.4
[20:16] <abhi01> kurt_ their founder puts the money in his pocket!
[20:16] <abhi01> kurt_ and calls it human!
[20:16] <abhi01> rofl
[20:17] <guntbert> ttf1: I asked because normally you don't run anything as root, you cannot login as root
[20:17] <kurt_> lol
[20:17] <urlin2u> freebird, you can just install the ubuntu-restricted-extras  for codecs and flash
[20:17] <Vardamir> theadmin ok, more easy ... testing ...
[20:17] <urlin2u> beelzebud, DO NOT PM ME.
[20:17] <theadmin> He pmed me too
[20:17] <beelzebud> Ok sorry
[20:17] <kurt_> in all fairness though im happy with the operating system as a whole :P as long as people who make it get to earn a bit they deserve some sort of reward lol
[20:17] <abhi01> kurt_ their media player is fail, the IM is fail, everything is fail imo xD
[20:17] <theadmin> Jeebus
[20:18] <kurt_> xD
[20:18] <beelzebud> I need an email sender ?
[20:18] <Vardamir> theadmin still nice 0 ...
[20:18] <abhi01> kurt_ the people who made it dont get the money. the canonical founder gets it
[20:18] <kurt_> oh
[20:18] <kurt_> than thats not so good >.<
[20:18] <theadmin> Vardamir: Well that's sad. I'm not sure why would you need VLC to run with such a huge priority though
[20:18] <freebird> urlin2u, tks, I'm trying
[20:18] <urlin2u> theadmin, I rab the bots pm and was pmed again.
[20:18] <urlin2u> ran
[20:18] <guntbert> !ot | kurt_ , abhi01
[20:18] <ttf1> guntbert: i can su to root in term..
[20:19] <abhi01> kurt_ like you use pidgin or firefox, the guys who made it dont get the money, nor does the guys who made GNOME that you see, ubuntu just changed the leg icon of GNOME on its own lol
[20:19] <guntbert> ttf1: no, you cannot - on a standard ubuntu at least
[20:19] <jack__> Hello to everyone in this chat!
[20:19] <theadmin> guntbert: Setting a root password is rather simple even on a standard Ubuntu, it's just unsupported for no apparent reason
[20:19] <Vardamir> theadmin to improve video smoothness, by default is ok, but sometimes it looks slightly more smooth with high priority
[20:19] <guntbert> !noroot | theadmin
[20:20] <ttf1> guntbert: i just in stalled ubuntu 1 minute ago and you see.. it works ^^
[20:20] <jack__> Can anyone tell me a good web site that tell me how install Ruby on Rails on Ubuntu 11.04?
[20:20] <theadmin> guntbert: I know, I just said it's not supported.
[20:20] <urlin2u> freebird, if your running another desktop like lubunu or kubuntu sub the DE
[20:20] <ttf1> guntbert: why you can´t do this usually?
[20:20] <theadmin> guntbert: I just said it may be the situatio nwith ttf1
[20:20] <abhi01> kurt_ take a look at the GNOME interface, ubuntu is similar :D with a changed icon in its menu icon.:D the only good thing is that i was shipped a cd :D free of cost
[20:20] <guntbert> theadmin: you also said "for no apparent reason", which is wrong
[20:20] <freebird> urlin2u, what does sub the DE means ?
[20:20] <kurt_> lol
[20:21] <guntbert> !sudo | ttf1
[20:21] <theadmin> guntbert: Well, the only real reason is Ubuntu trying to prevent users from causing harm to their systems.
[20:21] <jack__> a good Ruby on rails IDE ?
[20:21] <urlin2u> freebird, if kubuntu run kubuntu-restricted-extras  they are all basically the same though
[20:21] <guntbert> theadmin: which is a perfectly good reason in my eyes :)
[20:22] <ttf1> guntbert: yeah i can use sudo or su root
[20:22] <Vardamir> theadmin thank you for your help :)
[20:23] <urlin2u> freebird, DE is short for desktop environment :D
[20:23] <abhi01> kurt_: you should see the GNOME desktop. it looks exactly like your ubuntu with the leg icon replaced with an ubuntus. check it http://library.gnome.org/misc/release-notes/2.24/figures/gnome.png.en_GB
[20:23] <guntbert> ttf1: no, on a standard ubuntu you only can use sudo (sudo -s at most) - that prevents you from having a term running as root and exposing your system to the risk of you doing something foolish :-)
[20:23] <BarkingFish> you must be about the only distro which doesn't support setting a root password.  there's no real reason to not tell people how to set one, not everyone who uses linux is a first timer liable to screw their system up!
[20:24] <ttf1> guntbert: sounds logic :)
[20:24] <kurt_> yeah but gnome doesnt need much changing tbh lol
[20:24] <insigne> tem alguem aí ?
[20:24] <BarkingFish> !pt | insigne
[20:24] <ttf1> guntbert: it will take time until i understand whole ubuntu ^^
[20:24] <abhi01> kurt_ the only thing they added the unity interface in ubuntu 11.04 is complete fail
[20:24] <freebird> insigne, tamo ae tiu
[20:25] <kurt_> yeah ? I cant say i havent used it yet
[20:25] <urlin2u> BarkingFish, nice rant, makes no sense thigh :D
[20:25] <urlin2u> though*
[20:25] <abhi01> kurt_ i dont think why canonical should make money when the GNOME developers made the interface. what is the new thing that the ubuntu guys did ;)
[20:25] <abhi01> kurt_ from the google ads lol
[20:25] <abhi01> on firefox
[20:25] <insigne> gostaria de saber o que faz um sistema operacional mudar de idioma sem a permição do usuario
[20:25] <kurt_> lol
[20:26] <guntbert> ttf1: do take your time - but please don't work as root when you are not doing any administrative work in your system
[20:26] <Guest5021> urlin2u: nah,i asked cuz i though someone who knows more about computers could goive me a suggestion
[20:26] <ttf1> guntbert: thanks and bye ..
[20:26] <guntbert> ttf1: :)
[20:26] <theadmin> Anyways, am off.
[20:27] <Kronsby> hello!
[20:27] <BarkingFish> urlin2u, to me it makes sense.  If someone already knows the threats open when working as root and is not a new user to linux, why shouldn't they work as whatever they want to? :)
[20:27] <abhi01> kurt_ do you see any point why canonical's founder should make bucks from the firefox google ads :D because everything was done by others, they only made a setup program and made a few wallpapers and themes :D and an ugly ubuntu sound at boot
[20:27] <Kronsby> My facebook feed is not working on broadcast accounts. Twitter is but what do?
[20:28] <urlin2u> BarkingFish, if you expose the root system to installs that do not need root is the danger just messing up the system, basically.
[20:28] <insigne> o que leva o sistema operacional a trocar de idioma automaticamente?
[20:28] <guntbert> abhi01: please keep to the topic of this channel
[20:28] <abhi01> kurt_ my daughter said she felt like having a heart attack when she heard that noise at boot
[20:28] <guntbert> !br | insigne
[20:28] <BarkingFish> !pt | insigne for the second time
[20:28] <urlin2u> BarkingFish, besides a experienced user will only use root when needed not all the time.
[20:28] <kurt_> i see your point abhi01 its unfair if the actual devolpers etc dont earn any profit either, but there is nothing i can do about that :s
[20:29] <abhi01> kurt_ ;)
[20:29] <BarkingFish> urlin2u, I only got round having to type "sudo" before everything by creating bash shortcuts for a lot of the stuff I used.  Once I worked out how to add a root account, I did so.
[20:29] <kurt_> lol
[20:30] <matias> hi
[20:30] <BarkingFish> my install command isn't sudo apt-get install now, it's sage -i
[20:30] <urlin2u> BarkingFish, I guess what your not understanding is there are linux releases that use root like puppy linux. Also root on linux is not the same as root in windows
[20:31] <^^Anubis> Hello, there exists any log on kernell layer, to log the process that isn't leaving the cpu, so it is blocking the pc ?
[20:32] <kurt_> abhi01, you mind i ask where your from, weird question i know lol
[20:32] <abhi01> kurt_ india :D
[20:32] <kurt_> ahh ok, cool xD
[20:33] <abhi01> kurt_ i was actually wondering what all those crowd of developers were doing when they built almost nothing, they simply assembled stuff and wrote wallpapers and themes :D and icons
[20:33] <abhi01> lol
[20:33] <kurt_> >.<
[20:33] <infested999> nouveau is not compatible with my graphics card, but every time I boot up Ubuntu it goes directly to X, so then I'm stuck because X is broken so it blocks my keyboard+mouse and all I see is artifacts. I know that the propreitary nvidia drivers work though, how do I make sure that x doesn't start up at boot? For some reason it's skipping the bootloader so I can't go into recovery mode, right now i'm in TinyCore so all I have to edit with 
[20:34] <urlin2u> !ot | abhi01
[20:34] <insigne> como faço para entrar no chat em portugues, não estou conseguindo de forma alguma
[20:34] <urlin2u> abhi01, kurt_ please use #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:35] <kurt_> sorry moving now
[20:36] <infested999> So, how do I either stop X from starting at boot, or force it to use the vesa driver instead of the nouveau driver?
[20:36] <BarkingFish> insigne, Tipo:     /join #ubuntu-br
[20:36] <surskitty> gnome-terminal periodically uses ~360 MB of memory when left open for an extended length of time (a few days, typically) and closing individual windows doesn't seem to clear it up.  my scrollback's set to 512 lines, and I'm running ubuntu 10.10
[20:36] <guntbert> !nox | infested999 (1)
[20:37] <insigne> onde digito isso, já tentei de todo jeito e nada
[20:37] <BarkingFish> ok
[20:37] <tihamer> Hello, I have a lenovo g550. I have installed Ubuntu 11.04 and i don't know why but when i enable wireless nothing comes up... i don't know what to do anymore...
[20:38] <tihamer> could someone help pls :D
[20:38] <infested999> ubottu: Can I edit /boot/grub/grub.cfg with it text editor to do that,  even though it says not to do that in the file?
[20:38] <BarkingFish> Guys, I know we don't speak portuguese here, but can someone help insigne please if you can?  He's saying that he's tried to /join #ubuntu-br and it's not working.
[20:39] <BarkingFish> insigne, qual programa IRC você tem?
[20:39] <robin0800> infested999, you should edit etc/default/grub
[20:39] <insigne> Xchat
[20:39] <RussellAlan> need help
[20:39] <RussellAlan> cant get to /dev/sda3 boot because grub2 not loading
[20:39] <insigne> 2.6.1
[20:40] <tjiggi_fo> BarkingFish, he can rightclick on the channel link you gave him and join from there
[20:40] <^^Anubis> Hello, there exists any log on kernell layer, to log the process that isn't leaving the cpu, so it is blocking the pc ?
[20:40] <RussellAlan> cant eevn boot into ubuntu 11.04 from livecd
[20:40] <BarkingFish> tjiggi_fo, I was just about to direct him to that, thanks anyway :)
[20:40] <infested999> robin0800: But I can't use grub-mkconfig on here
[20:41] <tihamer> Hello, could somebody help my? I have a lenovo g550 and when i enable wireless nothing shows up :| i have tried everything..
[20:42] <BarkingFish> insigne: clique direito no    #ubuntu-br       e selecione "entrar no canal" no menu
[20:42] <insigne> deu certo
[20:43] <BarkingFish> :)
[20:43] <insigne> agradeço, porem toda vez vai ser dose entrar no de lingua portuguesa rsrsrs
[20:43] <BarkingFish> :)
[20:43] <BarkingFish> insigne, excelente. boa sorte!
[20:44] <BarkingFish> <<<portuguese courtesy of google translate
[20:44] <yeats> heh
[20:45] <robin0800> infested999, why do you need too?
[20:45] <vooze> I just installed gnome-shell + gnome3 on 11.04 qne qll is fine, but just one thing.. when I add software its good, but when i log out and back in, its gone from the gnome-shell (i can start just fine with terminal) anyone tryed this?
[20:45] <tihamer> So could someone pls help why the wireless problem!?
[20:46] <ang_> hello
[20:47] <yeats> !gnome3 | vooze
[20:47] <vooze> yeats: yeah yeah i know, but does not mean i cant ask for some advice, does it ? :)
[20:48] <shezri> guys i need help with view.post()
[20:49] <karmst> Hello
[20:49] <usuario_> ola
[20:49] <usuario_> kidmjfbudejdeufgj
[20:49] <rww> !es
[20:49] <karmst> what can you use to do full backups of Ubuntu?
[20:49] <iceroot> shezri: doesnt sound like a ubuntu-related question
[20:50] <iceroot> !backup | karmst
[20:50] <karmst> with BMR restore to dissimilar hardware?
[20:51] <iceroot> karmst: bmr?
[20:52] <iceroot> karmst: you mean mbr?
[20:52] <karmst> bare metal recovery
[20:52] <iceroot> karmst: never heard of it, sorry
[20:52] <karmst> so you can restore to new hardware
[20:52] <karmst> it allows you to inject drivers during the restore
[20:52] <iceroot> karmst: linux != windows
[20:53] <iceroot> karmst: a installation can be run on every different system
[20:53] <stricb938445> what is the name of the program that emulates windows driver?
[20:53] <iceroot> karmst: the need for a driver is set at boot
[20:53] <iceroot> karmst: so if you change hardware you dont have to uninstall drivers
[20:53] <iceroot> karmst: or install new drivers, normally they are all in the kernel and loaded at boot when needed
[20:54] <karmst> right I know this... But what I want is the ability to restore to new systems , virtual machines, etc...
[20:54] <karmst> and not have to config anything
[20:54] <iceroot> karmst: you dont have to config anything as i said
[20:54] <karmst> also would like if the backup would dedupe
[20:54] <iceroot> karmst: just start the system on a different hardware
[20:55] <Hot2Trot> what is the best way to make 'ls |less' show colors?
[20:55] <karmst> iceroot: I've ran into issues with that actually working
[20:55] <yeats> karmst: the kernel should just discover what drivers are needed wherever it is booted (assuming a generic kernel, which Ubuntu kernels are)
[20:55] <iceroot> karmst: like?
[20:55] <karmst> nic drivers don't work, video is all messed up
[20:55] <iceroot> karmst: nic is something different
[20:56] <karmst> so what I want is take entire backup from computer A
[20:56] <yeats> Hot2Trot: ls colors are set in ~/.bashrc, if that helps
[20:56] <karmst> apply it to computer B
[20:56] <iceroot> karmst: udev is setting up eth0 for a specific mac. if the mac is changed, udev will create eth1 instead of eth0
[20:56] <karmst> and not have to do anything in order to get it to work
[20:56] <yeats> Hot2Trot: http://alicious.com/piping-ls-through-less-with-colors/
[20:56] <karmst> like acronis for windows
[20:56] <Hot2Trot> yeats: I hae colors turned on for ls, but not for less is the problem, i don't know how to turn colors on for less
[20:56] <karmst> or ArcServe
[20:56] <Hot2Trot> yeats: thanks !
[20:57] <yeats> Hot2Trot: sure - the Google guided me ;-)
[20:58] <MauriceJ> Ubuntu 10.04.1 Hello, I recently changed the colour in my gnome panel but the parts where Applications, Places, the time, etc show up are still the default theme.  Is there any way to get those to be the same colour as the rest of the panel?
[20:58] <jrib> Hot2Trot: I gave you that same exact information this morning :/
[21:00] <Hot2Trot> jrib: ? I asked the question like 2 days ago, and someone else gave me another answer....
[21:00] <kyan> jayson_r: That worked!
[21:00] <jrib> Hot2Trot: feel free to read logs
[21:01] <kyan> jayson_r, theadmin, Gentoo64: Thanks for all your help! Have a good day! :-)
[21:01] <jayson_r> kyan: awesome!
[21:01] <kyan> jayson_r: *Very* awesome :-D
[21:02] <Hot2Trot> yeats: It didn't quite work... I put " alias lh='ls --color=auto -lasth | less -R' " into my .bashrc without the "s and it didn't work =/
[21:03] <jrib> Hot2Trot: because you aren't reading.
[21:04] <Hot2Trot> jrib: i see now
[21:05] <Hot2Trot> jrib: I tried replacing "auto" with "always" didn't seem to work
[21:05] <iceroot> how to open the task-manager in gnome2 with a shortcut?
[21:05] <jrib> Hot2Trot: in your terminal, type: ls --color=always | less -R
[21:06] <PrinceKapHot> Hi there, I just installed xubuntu on my brand new laptop, and the network manager tells me "no network adapter found"... any ideas ?
[21:06] <nodex> was up people
[21:07] <i42n> nodex, thunderstorm over me right now
[21:07] <nodex> what???
[21:07] <i42n> yes
[21:08] <Hot2Trot> jrib: thank you for the exact command, it is not as easy as you think to figure out what people are saying when you are not that knowledgable bout linux
[21:08] <Hot2Trot> jrib: especiallyi n command line
[21:08] <nodex> how i change my name color
 how i change my name color
[21:10] <Der_Tiger> On IRC?
[21:10] <brr> hi all!
[21:10] <TUK4NG_NJ3J3G> lalala
[21:10] <TUK4NG_NJ3J3G> hlo
[21:11] <brr> who speak russian language?
[21:11] <TUK4NG_NJ3J3G> lll
[21:11] <Der_Tiger> If so, I don't believe such a way is plausible, unless your client magically has such a 'client sided' feature.
[21:11] <meco> Is it possible to have some dynamic activity on the desktop, like som spaceships moving around, mayb even some simple interactiveness into a little game? Or something else?
[21:11] <BluesKaj> !ru | brr
[21:12] <brr> thanks
[21:12] <TUK4NG_NJ3J3G> hello
[21:12] <TUK4NG_NJ3J3G> exusme
[21:12] <almoxarife> meco: I believe one opens a process/app on the desktop to achieve same
[21:13] <meco> almoxarife: Do you have an example?
[21:14] <almoxarife> meco: clear desktop, open game(your choice), play it?
[21:14] <meco> That's not what I asked about...
[21:14] <meco> Or I don't understand what you mean..
[21:15] <meco> I'm looking for some activity on my desktop when I'm not in any application.
[21:15] <almoxarife> meco: while back I did read about a wallpaper that was live, the guy/dudette had various logs scrolling as a wallpaper
[21:15] <PrinceKapHot> Hi there, I just installed xubuntu on my brand new laptop, and the network manager tells me "no network adapter found"... any ideas ?
[21:16] <adam__> hello
[21:16] <meco> OK, I'll look for a live wallpaper then.
[21:16] <yonij> Hi, need help please - I removed vlc from repo using apt-get - but I had installed vlc from source once also - how can I remove that - it still opens vlc when I type vlc in terminal
[21:16] <adam__> how can i install lxde without root acces ?
[21:17] <mistermocha> help! trying to learn how to set up an LDAP server, following the instructions on the community help site, and keep getting error outputs. Additionally, the database files don't look like they're being created.
[21:18] <blinkBlank> yonij so apt-get remove vlc did not work?
[21:18] <mistermocha> following this tutorial: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenLDAPServer
[21:18] <mistermocha> getting this error (removed newline): ldap_add: Invalid syntax (21)additional info: objectClass: value #1 invalid per syntax
[21:18] <yonij> blinkBlank: It removed vlc - but I can still open vlc - I assume it is the one I installed from source - dont know how to remove that
[21:19] <adam__> please why no one help me
[21:19] <almoxarife> yonij: locate it via find ?
[21:19] <IdleOne> adam__: use sudo
[21:19] <blinkBlank> yonij - oh ok that's a bit harder. If you still have vlc source directory you can try make uninstall - it *might* work
[21:20] <yonij> find vlc - its not there
[21:20] <adam__> i need install lxde + tightvnc without root acces because my vps provider dont give root acces
[21:21] <dr_willis> adam__,  you may need to compile from source then..
[21:21] <almoxarife> yonij: vlc executable is a file, I'll assume you have a classic desktop, there is the 'locate a file' app somewhere in your choices, use it, locate it, delete it
[21:21] <adam__> and how i can do it please ?
[21:21] <dr_willis> !compile
[21:21] <mistermocha> adam__: why would you want to install a windowing environment on a vps?
[21:21] <adam__> to log into is like remote desktop
[21:22] <mistermocha> what do you plan on doing on a remote device that you can't do locally?
[21:22] <epzil0n> adam__: what's the point in having a vps if you can't install anything? what system do you have on it?
[21:23] <InfoLoco> Hello, can somebody help me to force a screen resolotion?
[21:23] <adam__> ubuntu 10
[21:23] <jrib> !fixres | InfoLoco
[21:23] <InfoLoco> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11215472#post11215472
[21:24] <InfoLoco> m post
[21:24] <InfoLoco> my post
[21:24] <InfoLoco> thks
[21:24] <dr_willis> InfoLoco,  at least summarize with what video chipset you are using. and what drivers you aer using for it.
[21:25] <InfoLoco> k
[21:25] <epzil0n> adam__: but you must have got a password to access the system or?
[21:25] <mistermocha> I still don't see the point in installing a windowing environment on a vps
[21:26] <adam__> yes i acces to system via putty but i dont have root acces
[21:26] <epzil0n> adam__:you mean login as root?
[21:26] <dr_willis> May be time to shop for a differnt vps..
[21:27] <mistermocha> I <3 linode
[21:27] <mistermocha> for vps
[21:27] <adam__> i got from company a user + pass of the user
[21:27] <adam__> i dont log as root i log as a user
[21:28] <mistermocha> adam__: what do you need a windowing environment for that you can't do over ssh?
[21:28] <yonij> blinkBlank  almoxarife:  thanks , had to manually remove using whereis
[21:28] <epzil0n> adam__: try sudo bash and supply that pass
[21:29] <adam__> it didnt work
[21:29] <dr_willis> sudo -i     is the normal ubuntu method.. but on a vps.. well thats perhaps getting beyond the scope of this support channel
[21:29] <mistermocha> adam__: define "didn't work"
[21:30] <epzil0n> dr_willis: ok thx
[21:30] <mistermocha> poop... so, no ldap experts here?
[21:30] <Jaith> exit
[21:31] <InfoLoco> Thks Done
[21:31] <Kronsby> is there a shortcut to mentioning people?
[21:31] <dr_willis> !tab
[21:32] <mistermocha> !ldap
[21:32] <Kronsby> ubottu: thanks!
[21:32] <Jaith> My webalizer stats script hasn't run in a week. I ran a ps -aux | grep cron and noticed that the cron.daily command (run-parts blah blah) has not finished in a week either -- there were about a dozen of them still trying to run
[21:33] <Jaith> I noticed that they appear to hang on the logrotate script...i think the problem is because of a bad logrotate conf for samhain
[21:33] <Jaith> can anyone help me fix this -- or determine why my cron.daily scripts won't finish?
[21:34] <Jaith> The samhain logrotate script contents are here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/681415/
[21:37] <pr0zoid> Anyone know how i would take an image of a remote ubuntu server with approx. 2GB of data on (10GB total) drive?  I need to restore the "image" locally so i can have an exact copy of the production system
[21:38] <valdur55> Can i read ubuntu build log?
[21:38] <dr_willis> pr0zoid,  dd command can make an image.
[21:39] <dr_willis> theres tricks to make it smaller to easier to transfer also.
[21:39] <pr0zoid> dr_willis: any guides you can recommend?
[21:39] <dr_willis> not really. Ive just read/learned how to use dd over the years
[21:39] <dr_willis> !backup
[21:40] <Kronsby> I am bored What fun things should I do with my newly installed ubuntu
[21:40] <andrewh192> hey, how do i add a button to the little sidebar in ubuntu on the desktop?
[21:40] <pr0zoid> thanks!
[21:40] <andrewh192> for a program
[21:40] <andrewh192> i have tried just dragging and dropping but it doesn't work
[21:41] <Kronsby> right click and add program panel
[21:41] <andrewh192> is there another way to do it that works?
[21:41] <andrewh192> hmmm
[21:41] <andrewh192> ok
[21:41] <Kronsby> ohhh you are using unity
[21:41] <Kronsby> Idk I disabled unity
[21:41] <andrewh192> yeah
[21:42] <Kronsby> hmmm You should be able to right click and add still
[21:42] <andrewh192> ok
[21:42] <Kronsby> Here
[21:42] <Kronsby> launch the application
[21:42] <andrewh192> but, in unity, when i do a search thing.. and it shows up the app.. when i right click on it.. it just opens it
[21:42] <andrewh192> ok
[21:42] <alyx> Hi. I have a thought.
[21:42] <winocm> so guys, why isn't wine included with ubuntu by default?
[21:42] <Kronsby> Start the application
[21:42] <regeya> currently using elementary os.  I give both ubuntu and gnome 3 kudos for trying to build somethign for everyone, but they both have a ways to go
[21:43] <andrewh192> i think i got it...
[21:43] <alyx> winocm: that's a good question. WINE seems like it would be useful
[21:43] <winocm> alyx: of course ! <3
[21:43] <alyx> especially since a lot of Ubuntu users are ex-windows
[21:43] <cai> hello
[21:43] <Kronsby> andrewh192,  launch the application and right click and say keep in launcher
[21:43] <cai> i am using   GNU/Linux 2.6.35-palm-tenderloin armv7l
[21:43] <alyx> It could ease the transition process A LOT
[21:43] <andrewh192> Kronsby: gotcha
[21:43] <cai> But I could not install adobe reader on it
[21:43] <andrewh192> Kronsby: thanx.. ;-)
[21:43] <winocm> cai: use GNU/Linux 3.1-rc4
[21:43] <cai> anyone knows
[21:43] <Polah> Has anyone else experienced Steam running very slowly through wine1.3?
[21:43] <pr0zoid> !cloning
[21:44] <dr_willis> Polah,  the steam client? or games on steam?
[21:45] <pilojo_> I'm in linux mint and since it's ubuntu based I thought here could help. Anyways, I'm trying to build a package and get "/home/pilojo/Downloads/bzip2/pkgbuild.ini: line 52: makeinfo: command not found
[21:45] <pilojo_> "
[21:45] <Kronsby> I am bored What fun things should I do with my newly installed ubuntu
[21:45] <pr0zoid> !sbackup
[21:45] <dr_willis> !find makeinfo
[21:45] <MauriceJ> Ubuntu 10.04.1 Hello, I recently changed the colour in my gnome panel but the parts where Applications, Places, the time, etc show up are still the default theme.  Is there any way to get those to be the same colour as the rest of the panel?
[21:45] <Polah> dr_willis: The steam client, primarily chat. It takes several seconds to open the friends list and entered text appears 2-3 seconds after being typed. It works fine on 1.2 but I have 1.3 for a few other programs. It's only been slow since 1.3.26 or 1.3.27, I don't remember it being slow on 1.3.25 but I built and installed from source and the problem still remained.
[21:46] <dr_willis> Polah,  cant say ive ever used the steam chat. :)  so cant verify the issue
[21:46] <Polah> !mint | pilojo_
[21:46] <regeya> I don't have problems with steam (I have to admit I bought a license for crossover games) but what's weird on mine is that I tried playing the first mass effect, and it runs dog-slow...if it's in full-screen or in focus.  If I bring another window into focus, it runs smooth as silk...
[21:47] <MauriceJ> phaedra: Are you phaedra of ovidcons?
[21:47] <regeya> I left a message on the xover forums back in the spring, and the last time I checked I seem to be the only one :->
[21:47] <phaedra> MauriceJ, no
[21:47] <pilojo_> It uses the same repositories... so i just thought that the packages for makeinfo would be the same
[21:47] <Polah> Also with 1.3.27 if I have Steam running and open another full screen program through wine the mouse constantly flashes between my desktop mouse and the in-program mouse, despite Steam not actually being open and only running in the background. I guess I could try 1.3.24 or earlier
[21:47] <MauriceJ> phaedra: Okay, sorry to bother you.
[21:47] <jeffcutsinger> I'm having a weird problem with sudo that I can't figure out. It prompts for my password every time. sudo ls; sudo ls will prompt twice.
[21:47] <phaedra> MauriceJ, np
[21:47] <MauriceJ> :)
[21:48] <tigranes> Hi! I somehow completely messed up my Gnome desktop after loging into Ubuntu Classic. I accidentally removed the notification area, and now after adding it again it doesn't look the same and is missing things like time and mail stuff. And I can't log into Unity again, since it says the computer doesn't meet hardware requirements all of a sudden. Is there a way to fix this?
[21:48] <jeffcutsinger> The weird thing is that it doesn't do this for a newly created user on the same machine.
[21:48] <Polah> jeffcutsinger: Does that still occur if you do sudo ls twice as separate commands?
[21:48] <jeffcutsinger> Yep.
[21:48] <robin0800> andrewh192, and an icon should appear in the launcher which you can right click and select keep in launcher
[21:48] <jeffcutsinger> It always prompts.
[21:48] <andrewh192> robin0800: thanx.. i got it...
[21:48] <OerHeks> jeffcutsinger, combine commands like this > sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get install <package>
[21:49] <OerHeks> gives one time pass question
[21:49] <Polah> jeffcutsinger: You could try changing your sudo timeout.
[21:49] <imark> this will only work if the first command executes without errors
[21:49] <jeffcutsinger> That would prompt 3 times (that's how I've done it).
[21:49] <jeffcutsinger> In sudoers, do you mean?
[21:49] <imark> other wise use sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[21:49] <Polah> Sudo shouldn't prompt for a password again for 15 minutes  by default or until the terminal is closed, the time can be changed though.
[21:49] <OerHeks> jeffcutsinger, separated with ; or && ?
[21:50] <jeffcutsinger> Doesn't matter.
[21:50] <jeffcutsinger> It prompts every time, no matter what.
[21:50] <Polah> jeffcutsinger: Yes, visudo and then you'll need to add a line and a value to change the timeout, I don't know the line though.
[21:50] <Phoenix87> bye!
[21:50] <jeffcutsinger> Polah: Wouldn't that affect all users? Only my user has this problem.
[21:51] <Polah> jeffcutsinger: Yes. Strange that only your user is affected, have you changed any groups or admin rights (including sudo) recently?
[21:52] <jeffcutsinger> Polah: no. I've been using this since the natty beta and it's always done this. At this point I'm kind of madly curious (it's not a big problem).
[21:53] <pr0zoid> dr_willis: given that i only have 1 drive 10gb thats not full (75% free) would partitioning it had using the new partition as my drive be an option? or does dd work at the drive level?
[21:54] <OerHeks> jeffcutsinger, sounds like a regression from that beta ..
[21:54] <Polah> jeffcutsinger: Run visudo and look at the lines for your username and usergroups, I believe it's possible to set timeout by user as well as globally
[21:55] <bluebomber> Hi, does anyone know how I can restore the appearance preferences? I installed gnome3, thinking I could have it alongside Unity, and to a certain degree I can, but I'm seeing lots of bleedover effects from gnome3 in Unity (lack of appearance preferences, e.g.).
[21:55] <Polah> bluebomber: Gnome3 isn't compatible with Natty, you'd be very lucky to get it working properly.
[21:55] <jeffcutsinger> Polah: I'm not seeing anything about timeout in there. I was thinking I might just up it to the maximum to give it a try.
[21:55] <bluebomber> Polah, I have Gnome3 working, errmmmm, acceptably, but I'm specifically asking about Unity now.
[21:56] <Polah> jeffcutsinger: Well, 15 is default. Perhaps set it for your user individually and see if that has an effect.
[21:56] <Polah> bluebomber: Yes, I'm just saying it's not supported and you'd be lucky to get it working, i.e. not messing with Unity when it's not supposed to.
[21:57] <bluebomber> Polah, I see. Let me see what I can manage. Thanks.
[21:57] <dr_willis> pr0ton,  dd works at  the device level.  theres ways to combine tar/compression on the fly as you make the image to reduce its size. or you could resize the partition.
[21:57] <mun_> hi
[21:57] <Polah> bluebomber: I'd recommend using ppa-purge to revert to gnome2 to avoid problems. gnome3 should be available for 11.10 when it's released.
[21:57] <mun_> does anyone know what's wrong with the following: sh -c 'for ((i=10000; $i <= 38000; i+=2000)) do (echo $i); done;' i keep getting an error "Syntax error: Bad for loop variable"
[21:58] <dr_willis> I must admit that gnome3 and  unity get along together in  the next release :)  which is good.
[21:58] <Jaith> can someone help me troubleshoot a cron.daily/logrotate problem?
[21:58] <Polah> Jaith: Quite probably.
[21:59] <Jaith> Polah: cron never seems to finish.  looks like it hangs running logrotate.  i think this samhain logrotate conf is the problem: http://paste.ubuntu.com/681415/
[21:59] <InfoLoco> guys, I still have the same problem, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11215574#post11215574
[21:59] <Polah> Jaith: Could you provide your crontab as well please.
[22:00] <Jaith> Polah: basic idea is that cron.daily starts run-parts on the cron.daily folder and the process never completes, resulting in a whole slew of backed up run-parts processes.
[22:00] <Jaith> Polah:  do you mean /etc/crontab?
[22:00] <Jaith> Polah: the script is in cron.daily folder.  The crontab to run those is the default with Ubuntu.
[22:00] <pooltable> help is there a program like this for linux Ink Saver Software Saves You up to 70% on Ink and Toner Costs ???
[22:00] <ed_money> trying to install mythbuntu on an older desktop, from CD. I keep getting '(initramfs) Unable to find a medium containing a live file system' errors. What more info do I need to provide to diagnose a solution?
[22:01] <dr_willis> ed_money,  tht sort of error points to a bad cd/bad burn, or issue reading the disk.
[22:01] <clausen> is it possible to use a usb-usb bridge to set up a network in ubuntu?
[22:01] <Jaith> Polah: default /etc/crontab just for your reference: http://paste.ubuntu.com/681433/
[22:01] <clausen> (like it is in windows an osx?)
[22:02] <dr_willis> cant say ive ever seen a usb to usb network cable...
[22:02] <ed_money> dr_willis: how can I test if it's a bad burn /cd?
[22:02] <Jaith> Polah:  I think the problem is "/bin/kill -TTI" in the samhain logrotate conf: http://paste.ubuntu.com/681415/
[22:03] <clausen> eg: can I buy one of these http://www.amazon.com/Cables-Unlimited-R-USB-1450-06-Factory-Re-Certified/dp/tech-data/B001NFQT24/ref=de_a_smtd to set up a network in ubuntu?
[22:03] <ed_money> dr_willis: I can load to win XP on the machine I'm trying to install ubuntu on, so that's available for diagnosing any possible hardware issuses
[22:03] <Jaith> Polah:  When I use pkill to halt all those hung cron.daily and logrotate scripts that are piling up, cron daemon sends email saying "don't understand TTI flag" or something like that.
[22:04] <Jaith> Polah: snip from the start of email from cron daemon: http://paste.ubuntu.com/681434/
[22:05] <Polah> Jaith: Just took a quick look at the man page for kill, I see TTIN but not TTI
[22:06] <dr_willis> !md5 | ed_money
[22:07] <Jaith> Polah:  hmmmm.  "might interact with the shell?" That doesn't sound like what we want for a friendly automated kill of the samhain process.  What do you recommend for kill command?
[22:07] <Jaith> Polah -9 seems a bit harsh.  -15?  something else?
[22:07] <jeffcutsinger> Polah: no dice editing sudoers. (Defaults:jeff   timestamp_timeout=15) It's no biggie. I'll just keep typing sudo -i until I reinstall.
[22:08] <gumbo> Hey, I have installed Ubuntu server in my computer, just to play with it. However, now the grub appearing is its grub. How can I restore my Ubuntu desktop one?
[22:08] <avinashhm> Hi , how to check is my ubntu 32bit version or 64bit version .. ? any help pls
[22:08] <Jaith> Polah: do you think my suspicions are correct about the process hanging?  And unless I'm missing something, it would seem that the samhain prerotate command only runs 120 times before it moves on.  Or is that hexadecimal?
[22:08] <dr_willis> jeffcutsinger,  check permissions in your home dir/files..  it could be the sudo lock file got some how protected
[22:08] <Polah> Jaith: kill -9 <id> would kill it certainly, perhaps -STOP, which would stop it rather than ending the process and then you could use kill -9 later if you wanted
[22:09] <dr_willis> -rw-r--r--  1 willis willis     0 2011-09-03 14:54 .sudo_as_admin_successful
[22:09] <Chris89x> hi, is there a similar command for chkconfig service off @ ubuntu with upstart?
[22:09] <Jaith> Polah:  this is a bit beyond my skill set here -- this script is the logrotate 'prerotate' which will run without supervision.  I just want samhain daemon to halt (as nicely as possible) so that I can rotate the log without any fighting over the file.
[22:10] <ubun> whats the difference between ubuntu server and ubuntu. (besides the fact that one is for a server...)
[22:10] <jeffcutsinger> dr_willis: yep, tried deleting that file jsut to make sure.
[22:10] <jeffcutsinger> dr_willis: Didn't help.
[22:10] <dr_willis> Chris89x,  not that i have ever seen.  but ive not looked into it lately. I just rename the /etc/init/whatever.conf file normally
[22:10] <cexsum> where's the building packages MOTU link?
[22:10] <Jaith> avinashhm: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/32bit_and_64bit#How_to_Check
[22:10] <Polah> Jaith: Hmm, I'd use kill -STOP <pid>  then, that would halt it and then you can continue it later with kill -CONT <pid>
[22:10] <Jaith> avinashhm: STFI
[22:11] <szal> STFI?
[22:11] <Polah> Jaith: Unless you need to actually end in which case kill -9 <pid> to stop the entire process straight away
[22:12] <avinashhm> Jaith, ok .. thanks ..
[22:12] <Chris89x> dr_willis, okay thanks
[22:12] <Jaith> szal: Search The Friendly Internet
[22:13] <avinashhm> szal, Search the F***ing internet
[22:13] <szal> Jaith: not exactly helpful, unless you give some pointers
[22:13] <gumbo> Hey, I have installed Ubuntu server in my computer, just to play with it. However, now the grub appearing is its grub. How can I restore my Ubuntu desktop one?
[22:13] <Jaith> Polah:  hm.  I don't see anything in the recommended script to restart samhain when rotation is done.  I've posted the samhain site with no results yet :(
[22:13] <dr_willis> gumbo,  boot the other ubuntu, rerun update-grub
[22:13] <Polah> jeffcutsinger, does the problem persist on TTYs as well?
[22:13] <Jaith> szal: i posted a link above right before STFI. ;)
[22:13] <kurt_> What is a good Audio Rip tool fro ubuntu, to rip audio From CD's but Keeping the track names and info etc ? I dont like having to rename all the music i just ripped lol xD
[22:14] <gumbo> dr_willis: ok, I'll do that just right now
[22:14] <gumbo> dr_willis: you mean not the server one, right?
[22:15] <jimmyb2187> How do you stop xchat from autojoining #ubuntu on startup?
[22:15] <dr_willis> gumbo,  either one should work fine.. you should pick one to handle the grub menu. personally i dont see the point in dual booting server/desktop onthe same box.
[22:15] <kurt_> anyone got any good ideas ? :P
[22:15] <jimmyb2187> It's not in the autojoin channels list
[22:15] <Polah> Jaith: Perhaps just change TTI to TTIN then, it certainly appears that that is what it is supposed to be
[22:15] <Zelda> is it in your favorites?
[22:15] <Polah> jimmyb2187: Network List > Select Network & edit > remove channel from favourites list
[22:15] <gumbo> dr_willis:I did it just to see how it looked and worked, not to actually run a server
[22:15] <Zelda> there you are.
[22:16] <dr_willis> gumbo,  you wanted to see what a console looked like? :)
[22:16] <jimmyb2187> Thanks Polah I will try that now.
[22:16] <Jaith> Polah:  thanks.  i'm looking at man page for kill and it doesn't tell you anything about what TTIN does.  thoughts?
[22:16] <kurt_> Whats he best tool for ripping audio cd's ?
[22:17] <dr_willis> kurt_,  theres dozens of them. most of the bigger music players can do it also.
[22:17] <dr_willis> !info grip
[22:17] <gumbo> dr_willis, yes. opening a console in desktop is sooooooooooooo difficult :)
[22:17] <kurt_> hmm ok, so i just have to try them all till i find the right one ? xD
[22:18] <Polah> Jaith: Stops it without ending it
[22:18] <OerHeks> !player
[22:20] <Polah> If I build and install 1.3.25 from source, will that revert 1.3.27 to .25 or should I remove .27 first?
[22:21] <user82> in a airplane is it sufficient to block the kernel modules for wireless drivers and the bluetooth module or is the hardware still active(and just not usable)
[22:22] <SoItBegins> Hi, I've installed Ubuntu. I'm trying to figure out how to do some things that should probably seem pretty basic, but I'm a little unsure about.
[22:22] <SoItBegins> First off, I'm on a Mac. Is it possible to use the Command and the Control keys interchangeably?
[22:22] <Polah> user82: You could just stop the networking service. Although, most aeroplanes nowadays won't really suffer from any interference from wireless devices, some airlines even offer wifi services on their flights
[22:23] <andrejpan> can somebody with firefox5 install addon: save my tabs 0.53 and report to me if it is working?
[22:23] <Jaith> Polah: thanks, you've been very helpful.  Unfortunately, I don't see any behavior in this setup that will restart samhain once the log rotation finishes.  I know that logrotate supports a postrotate script too.  any thoughts about what to put in there?  I'm posting the samhain site with no responses yet.
[22:23] <OerHeks> Polah, you can try, but should warn you a newer version is installed
[22:23] <user82> ok Polah
[22:23] <Polah> Jaith: Add a line later in: "kill -CONT <pid" that will continue the stopped process
[22:24] <Jaith> Polah: thanks!  If samhain devs don't respond, I'll try what you suggest
[22:24] <Gadu> I started the upgrade from10.10 to 11.04 and it seems to want to remove cairo-dock. Is there a way around this?
[22:25] <Polah> Gadu: Back up your settings and reinstall it afterwards, perhaps.
[22:29] <noob> hello, can anyone help me with an issue i'm having with a touchsmart notebook? rather, i'm having issues with the hybrid intel/ati graphics
[22:29] <mun_> if i start a screen with 'screen -dm python foo.py >> out' the output of the python script doesn't seem to pipe into out. does anyone know how to pipe properly?
[22:30] <gumbo> If move a partition, should I move it to the left or right?
[22:31] <InfoLoco> Hello, I to change my screen resolution... Please i need some help.. Post http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11215574#post11215574
[22:31] <InfoLoco> *I need to
[22:31] <jstoone> Hey! My screen on my labtop died yesterday, and right this moment I remember that I installed SSH on it, but I can't figure out how to get it's IP
[22:32] <Polah> jstoone: Your router may list it when it's connected, or if you have a small network IP range you could try each one
[22:32] <dr_willis> jstoone,  use nmap to scan the network :)
[22:32] <cristian_c> Hi
[22:32] <jstoone> I tried to nmap some different ip's 192.168.0.4 etc.
[22:32] <InfoLoco> k
[22:32] <Polah> mun_: Only one > to write output to files
[22:32] <cristian_c> I've got a keyboard called Media Wireless Desktop by Labtec. I tried to set the keyboard shortcuts directly from the Applications-> Settings-> Xfce4 settings manager -> Keyboard-> Applications shortcuts. I clicked on Add and for example I typed the command 'evolution'. I pressed Ok and then the system asked me to type the key on the keyboard.
[22:32] <eipi-1> jstoone: nmap 192.168.0.* -p 22
[22:33] <cristian_c> In this case the key was correctly recognized as XF86Mail and has been included in the list of shortcuts. But if I press the mail key, it always happens the same problem, that instead of opening evolution, the pc goes into stand-by. Is anyone able to understand what the problem is due? I even tried keytouch editor and it recognized the keys. But after setting up the keyboard with keytouch, if I press the 'mail' ke
[22:33] <cristian_c> y, the PC goes always on standby for no reason
[22:33] <jstoone> dr_willis: I tried 'nmap -PN 192.168.0.1-255' I gave up...
[22:33] <Polah> jstoone: Are you sure your network uses IPs in the range 192.168.0.XXX?
[22:34] <mun_> Polah, but i think my problem is that it's piping the output of screen rather than the script.
[22:34] <jstoone> Polah: Yes.
[22:34] <eipi-1> jstoone: only scan port 22 (or the one your sshd is running)
[22:37] <gumbo> If move a partition, should I move it to the left or right?
[22:38] <jstoone> eipi-1: OMG.. I executed the above command and BAM > http://pastebin.com/BrKecgb1 - 192.168.0.20 is the one that I am on right now.
[22:38] <Polah> mun_: Oh, perhaps try screen -dm "python foo.py > file"
[22:39] <Polah> gumbo: It doesn't particularly matter. Why do you need to move it anyway?
[22:39] <gumbo> Polah: because it's in the middle of 2 unassigned spaces
[22:40] <noob> when i type, does anyone see it?
[22:40] <eipi-1> jstoone: that was with the -PN option right? but it seems as there is only one ssh port on 22 in the network. did u setup any firewall?
[22:40] <Polah> noob: Nope (:
[22:41] <noob> yay! i feel just a little bit validated
[22:41] <Gentoo64> :)
[22:41] <jstoone> eipi-1: Nope.
[22:43] <jstoone> eipi-1: Well, thanks mate! I'll be heading to bed, and then tomorrow I'll pull out the damn HDD and put it in my other box.
[22:44] <eipi-1> jstoone: gn8
[22:44] <jstoone> eipi-1: Night night
[22:49] <lebear> hey guys. I'm messing around with keyboard customization; is there a way to assign a character to a command? specifically, I want Win+Z = { and Win+X = }
[22:50] <Polah> lebear: Keyboard Shortcuts > Add and then just enter the command you want to bind it to
[22:50] <lebear> Polah, yeah, I did that, but it doesn't seem to work with characters unfortunately
[22:50] <cristian_c> Polah, It doesn't work with my keyboard
[22:51] <lebear> perhaps they should be entered in a specific format (ASCII or something)
[22:51] <gumbo> moving swap partition isn't going to break anything, is it?
[22:51] <noob> could someone at least spare a few minutes to explain https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HybridGraphics to me? i feel like an idiot trying to read through that page
[22:51] <noob> gumbo: i've never had any problems with it
[22:52] <Polah> gumbo: Not unless there's anything in swap, I'd be quick about it though. Where are you moving it to? If you're moving it to another drive then just reassign which one is your swap in fstab and remount it manually there
[22:53] <gumbo> noob, thanks
[22:54] <gumbo> Polah: nothing that shouldnt be with the normal Ubuntu installation. I'm moving it inside the same drive
[22:54] <Polah> noob: It allows you to change with GPU is processing your graphics. i.e. you could use your integrated GPU (provided you have one) to process while you're doing basic things to save power and then when you want to play a game or do something more intensive you can enable and switch to your graphics card/discrete GPU which would typically be more powerful and then switch back afterwards.
[22:54] <Polah> gumbo: Why are you moving it on the same drive?
[22:55] <gumbo> Polah: because it's in the middle of 2 unassigned spaces
[22:55] <Jason2gs> On Ubuntu 10.04, how can you have two clocks on the GNOME panel displaying two different times?
[22:56] <Polah> gumbo: Oh I see, that's quite strange. Do you have two partitions either side? You could just extend those partitions into the free space without needing to move your swap
[22:56] <chase> Jason2gs: I'm pretty sure you could do it with 2 panels...not sure on one panel.
[22:56] <Jason2gs> Hm...
[22:56] <chase> I assume it won't let you just add the dock applet twice?
[22:57] <Jason2gs> No, you can. But adjusting the time changes it system-wide.
[22:57] <Polah> The clock gets it's time from your system time, not the clock applet itself so if you changed the time on one it would change system time and the other would change as well
[22:57] <gumbo> Polah: it's like unassigned -> swap -> unassigned -> partition
[22:57] <Polah> I believe if you add more locations it shows time individually for them
[22:57] <noob> polah, i think that is what i need, my computer has an 13 core with integrated intel graphics and discrete ati graphics, but i have no idea how to switch between the two or which i need to set it at during startup or how switching during startup works. it says to put a script into /etc/initramfs-tools/scripts/local-top/hybrid_boot_options but i don't even know how to do that
[22:58] <Polah> gumbo: Oh, I see. I guess you want to move swap closer to the end and then extend the partition into the free space left behind by your swap partition?
[22:58] <gumbo> Pola: yes
[22:58] <Polah> noob: 13 core? I know you can get 12 core processors, but I don't know about 13 lol
[22:59] <noob> I3* sorry
[22:59] <help_meplz> hello
[22:59] <Polah> gumbo: Boot a LiveCD, delete your swap partition, remake it at the beginning of the disk, assuming that the free space is between the beginning and the swap and then extend your system partition
[22:59] <help_meplz> i need help
[22:59] <KLine> help_meplz: with what?
[23:00] <help_meplz> which unbuntu do i install on my netbook
[23:00] <Knuxgen> ubuntu for netbook
[23:00] <SoItBegins2> Hi, I just installed Ubuntu on my MacBook Pro. I've gotten a triple boot working (OSX/Windows/Ubuntu), with the help of an app called rEFIt. The thing is, When I attempt to boot from rEFIt into Ubuntu, rEFIt brings up GRUB, which gives me a big menu of all 3 OSs I have installed.
[23:00] <help_meplz> my netbook is messed up it says disk error occured but if i installed ubuntu would it work?
[23:00] <Polah> help_meplz: Any one you want. From 11.04 there is no netbook edition.
[23:00] <gumbo> Polah: but couldn't I do it without a LiveCD?
[23:00] <SoItBegins2> Is there I way I can set GRUB to skip the menu and load Ubuntu automatically?
[23:00] <robin0800> help_meplz, desktop
[23:00] <bazhang> !une | help_meplz
[23:00] <help_meplz> so what should i download for netbook kubunto netbook remix?
[23:01] <Polah> gumbo: You could work on your swap, but you couldn't extend your system partition and you could unmount it to do it from inside the system
[23:01] <SoItBegins2> Also, there's no chance I'll do any damage to my computer later with this boot setup, is there?
[23:01] <bazhang> help_meplz, you just asked for ubuntu, you want kubuntu instead?
[23:01] <Polah> gumbo: Back up your data before extending your system partition.
[23:01] <help_meplz> i want to know which would work on my netbook
[23:01] <help_meplz>  because my netbook is currently dead
[23:01] <bazhang> help_meplz, they all work
[23:02] <bazhang> help_meplz, thats a hardware issue, nothing can bring that back
[23:02] <gumbo> Polah: yes, I'd need / to be unmounted. But I could still move swap  without unmounting it?
[23:02] <help_meplz> so ubuntu 11.04 desktop will work on my netbook?
[23:02] <robin0800> SoItBegins2, grub does not show a menu by default unless you are dual booting
[23:02] <bulle> Uppgrading from 11.04 to 11.10 beta doesnt give me LightDM but keeps GDM, is this expected behaviour ? if so, why ?
[23:02] <SoItBegins2> As I said, I'm triple-booting.
[23:02] <bazhang> help_meplz, if the hardware is dead? no
[23:02] <help_meplz> it isnt dead
[23:02] <Knuxgen> i'm trying to figure out on the third day what to do with http://i.imgur.com/tfB1z.jpg "unable to find a medium containing a live file system" problem, went through zillions of forums with no help, CD boots but doesn't show the Welcome screen, the same happens if I choose to TRY
[23:02] <Polah> help_meplz, Like I said, there is no netbook remix any more. There is just "Ubuntu 11.04 Desktop" and "Ubuntu 11.04 Server".
[23:02] <help_meplz>  it says a disk error has occured press ctrl alt del to restart
[23:02] <SoItBegins2> But I'm using rEFIt as my boot menu. rEFIt calls GRUB, and I just want GRUB to load Ubuntu silently.
[23:03] <Polah> gumbo: No, you'd have to unmount it to move it.
[23:03] <bulle> help_meplz: so, broken harddrive then ?
[23:03] <bazhang> Polah, he wants kubuntu netbook remix now
[23:03] <help_meplz>  ok please i want to know if i should then download kubuntu because it is not netbooks
[23:03] <help_meplz> kubuntu?
[23:03] <gumbo> Polah: Oh. Thanks
[23:03] <bazhang> help_meplz, sure go ahead.
[23:03] <chase> Does anyone have any recent experience with the Catalyst drivers? I found a thousand people on the forum saying a year ago that catalyst might surpass Nvidia but no recent posts about it...
[23:04] <robin0800> SoItBegins2, startupmanager might be what you want
[23:04] <help_meplz> im asking if it would work
[23:04] <bulle> chase: works very well for me, thats basicly all i can say
[23:04] <SoItBegins2> What's startupmanager?
[23:04] <bazhang> help_meplz, try it and see
[23:04] <Polah> From Kubuntu wiki: "The Netbook Plasma was previously available in Kubuntu Netbook Edition. Since then, It has been made already available in the Kubuntu Desktop ISO image combined with the regular Kubuntu Desktop. the installer detects display settings and chooses the best plasma workspace.", the "netbook DE is included with regular Kubuntu apparently
[23:04] <chase> bulle: I just bought an HD6670 on sale on newegg, so fingers crossed.
[23:04] <bulle> chase: well, im using an 6950
[23:05] <WinCamXP> Hello, I wanted help with bash scripting.
[23:05] <help_meplz> is there a one on one dchat
[23:05] <bulle> chase: so i dont see why your older card, wont work just as well
[23:05] <bazhang> help_meplz, see what Polah posted above
[23:05] <bazhang> help_meplz, not here no
[23:05] <WinCamXP> Are there any bash commands that will allow me to copy files into a java archive (.jar file)?
[23:05] <bazhang> !forums > help_meplz
[23:05] <help_meplz> ok
[23:05] <chase> bulle: the argument between open vs proprietary seems to rage on though. I will be using dual monitors almost constantly. use that alot?
[23:06] <help_meplz> since my old windows xp on my nbetbook is busted is there a chance kubuntu can be my new os and can u use my webcam on it
[23:06] <bulle> chase: hmm, no, i just use a single monitor
[23:06] <help_meplz>  because my netbook had bult in webcam
[23:06] <bazhang> help_meplz, try a live usb stick and try
[23:06] <bulle> help_meplz: what netbook is it you have ?
[23:06] <bazhang> !usb | help_meplz
[23:07] <noob> :(
[23:07] <WinCamXP> depends on the netbook help_melps, look up the model of your netbook on google with something like this "[brand] [model] ubuntu webcam"
[23:07] <Gunther0> Hello, im from downstream mint, but I was wondering if anyone has a fix for the upstream indicator aplet memory leak bug? I came to check on my box and found the program using 3.4GiB
[23:08] <bazhang> Gunther0, mint?
[23:08] <Gunther0> it says you have fix released, but I was wondering if I could get a .deb of that to apply it to mint.
[23:08] <WinCamXP> linux mitn?
[23:08] <Gunther0> yes
[23:08] <WinCamXP> thats what i installed onto my sis's netbook the next room over
[23:09] <bulle> WinCamXP: you just want to use the jar command, should be included in the java sdk, it works similar to tar, just read documentation
[23:09] <Gunther0> Mint apparently hasn't applied your fix for that bug, so I was wondering if I could apply it manually.
[23:09] <bazhang> Gunther0, thats not downstream. its not supported here. check launchpad for bugs
[23:09] <WinCamXP> bulle: the javadoc?
[23:09] <bazhang> !bugs | Gunther0
[23:09] <WinCamXP> bulle: where is that documentation? ubuntu docs or javadocs?
[23:09] <Gunther0> linux mint is a ubuntu downstream.
[23:09] <bulle> WinCamXP: javadocs
[23:10] <bulle> WinCamXP: its a standard command of the sdk, its available for windows, linux, osx etc
[23:10] <help_meplz> ok i am looking it up and whas a live usb stick i bought a 2 gb flash drive
[23:10] <help_meplz>  is that enough?
[23:10] <Gunther0> https://bugs.launchpad.net/indicator-applet/+bug/369539 the bug is listed here, but I can't use the ubuntu update service, so I was wondering if I can update via a .deb or something.
[23:10] <bazhang> Gunther0, it's still not supported here. check launchpad for bugs as I indicated
[23:11] <bazhang> help_meplz, yes
[23:11] <Gunther0> Leme be simple. I'm asking someone to tell me how to borrow ubuntu's .deb files.
[23:11] <Gunther0> So I can patch my os.
[23:11] <Gunther0> With your fixes
[23:11] <yeats> Gunther0: you can download them from packages.ubuntu.com
[23:12] <yeats> Gunther0: but no guarantees of them working (of course) ;-)
[23:12] <help_meplz> relief
[23:12] <WinCamXP> ubottu: so which series of letters do i use after 'jar' if i want to add files to an existing jar?
[23:12] <WinCamXP> oops wrong person
[23:12] <WinCamXP> bulle: so which series of letters do i use after 'jar' if i want to add files to an existing jar?
[23:12] <chase> Gunther0: not sure if its still around but aptoncd seems to be what you're looking for.
[23:13] <Gunther0> thank you yeats, I will try that.
[23:14] <help_meplz> I FOUND IT
[23:14] <regeya> ubottu is more intelligent than many human beings ;-)
[23:14] <help_meplz>  I HAVE AN ACER ASPIRE ONE AOD250
[23:14] <help_meplz> DO YU THINK IT will work?
[23:14] <bazhang> help_meplz, no caps
[23:14] <help_meplz> sorry
[23:14] <WinCamXP> bulle: it looks like 'jar uf blah.jar /home/username/folder/filestoputinsidejar' correct?
[23:14] <bazhang> help_meplz, try it in live mode and see
[23:15] <hidensoft> hi , i trying to use tuxguitar , but sound not work , when i try to open that in terminal i got this error /dev/sequencer: No such file or directory
[23:15] <hidensoft> anybody know how i can enable sound ?
[23:15] <chase> help_meplez: I had a acer aspire one for a bit and used a distro specifically for the aspire one called Kuki Linux. There was also Linux4One and a couple others I think.
[23:15] <WinCamXP> okay i have to have dinner
[23:15] <noob> can someone tell me where i CAN find someone willing to help me get my computer booting up properly?? i installed linux so i'd have a computer that *works*
[23:15] <WinCamXP> answer my previous questions if you can in a PM
[23:16] <clint_> hi all is gnome3 any good
[23:16] <bazhang> noob, which version of ubuntu
[23:16] <BlueEagle> clint_: nope
[23:16] <noob> 11.04
[23:16] <bazhang> clint_, its in 11.10, not supported in 11.04
[23:16] <help_meplz> acer aspire on d250 how do i fund uubuntu webcam for it
[23:16] <bazhang> noob, give us some details
[23:16] <hidensoft> clint_: i'm gnome user but i don't like it ?
[23:16] <hidensoft> !
[23:16] <BlueEagle> clint_: It's probably a bit better than the quality of your question though.
[23:17] <clint_> ok probley why i'm having so many problems lol
[23:17] <noob> gnome3 is so-so after getting used to it, not stable at all though and hopefully alot will be added in extensions
[23:17] <noob> or in further development
[23:17] <chase> clint_ Vague question. Good? Gnome 3 is very different. Useful for some people. Not a fan myself.
[23:17] <chase> Xfce 4.8 is where its at. ;)
[23:18] <rypervenche> Using Xfce4.8 here. Waiting for a Gnome 2.x fork.
[23:18] <chase> 4.8 is better imho than a gnome 2 fork. Xfce is so much simpler in its configuration and setup.
[23:19] <hidensoft> anybody in there use tuxguitar ?
[23:20] <BlueEagle> !anyone | hidensoft
[23:21] <hidensoft> BlueEagle: i ask my question before !
[23:21] <BlueEagle> hidensoft: Yeah I see it now. Did you check if /dev/sequencer exist?
[23:21] <byteman> I'm currently running a production Apache/PHP/MySql CentOS 5 but am concerned by the lack of timely security fixes - how does Ubuntu handle security patches?
[23:22] <BlueEagle> hidensoft: ie. is it a missing module or a file permission issue.
[23:22] <hidensoft> BlueEagle: no , its not exist !
[23:23] <BlueEagle> !security | byteman
[23:24] <debugnet> does anyone have a problem with their wireless dropping every time your "Regulatory domain changed to country" changes with the cfg80211 driver?
[23:25] <BlueEagle> hidensoft: Do you get anything from: lsmod|grep snd-seq
[23:25] <hidensoft> BlueEagle: no dude
[23:25] <BlueEagle> hidensoft: How about: sudo modprobe snd_seq
[23:26] <BlueEagle> ...and then do the lsmod |grep snd_seq again.
[23:27] <BlueEagle> hidensoft: also check if /dev/snd/seq exist
[23:28] <hidensoft> BlueEagle http://pastie.org/2478248
[23:28] <BlueEagle> hidensoft: does /dev/sequencer exist now?
[23:28] <hidensoft>  /dev/snd/seq is not exist
[23:29] <hidensoft> /dev/sequencer is not exist
[23:30] <BlueEagle> I see that you didn't grep for snd_seq the first time around. When you check if it exist I assume you do `ls /dev/sequencer` right?
[23:31] <hidensoft> i do anything that you say , maybe i miss that in paste
[23:32] <BlueEagle> hidensoft: Well, I just need to know how you know that /dev/sequencer doesn't exist. Purely taking tuxguitars word for it is not necessarily good enough. Especailly when sudoing it.
[23:32] <hidensoft> lsmod|grep snd-seq : have no output
[23:32] <BlueEagle> that's snd_seq not snd-seq
[23:32] <BlueEagle> my bad on that one.
[23:33] <hidensoft> BlueEagle: i go to that directory and i can't see the sequencer folder
[23:33] <BlueEagle> hidensoft: ls /dev/se*
[23:33] <noob> bazhang: connection dropped, did what i said show?
[23:33] <BlueEagle> noob: Last line was "or in further development"
[23:34] <hidensoft> hidensoft: http://pastie.org/2478272 -> lsmod|grep snd_seq
[23:34] <hidensoft> BlueEagle: http://pastie.org/2478277
[23:34] <noob> bazhang: what kind of details? as i've said, i'm running ubuntu 11.04 (and tried 11.10B) on hp touchsmart tm2-2050us with hybrid graphics intel I3/ati and every time it boots up i get a black screen and have to close&open the laptop about 5 times to get ANYTHING to come up. i've been having this problem since 10.04 when i got my laptop and all i've found is that what i need to do has something to do with vga_switcheroo which isn't explained in
[23:35] <JasonGriffee> How do I add bass eq in 11.04?
[23:36] <bungholio> my friend installed wubi and installed ubuntu /win7 - and when he boots into Ubuntu the screen flickers black and white for a second and doesn't boot, any idea?
[23:36] <BlueEagle> hidensoft: That is really strange. When you have the module you should have the device nodes.
[23:36] <bungholio> -not sure if it matters but he installed it on his laptop.
[23:36] <bazhang> noob, thats the optimus system? which graphics card are you trying to use?
[23:37] <Jordan_U> bungholio: After it flickers black then white what happens?
[23:37] <bungholio> Jordan_U: it reboots.
[23:37] <BlueEagle> hidensoft: Just out of curiousity which audio chipset and drivers are you using? lspci|grep Multi
[23:38] <hidensoft> BlueEagle: lspci|grep Multi have no output
[23:38] <BlueEagle> hidensoft: Do you have any audio from other applications?
[23:38] <hidensoft> BlueEagle: yes i have
[23:39] <BlueEagle> hidensoft: try it with just `lspci` and see if you can spot anything that looks like audio.
[23:39] <hidensoft> i can play the music , but i don't know why this god damn software did not work
[23:39] <BlueEagle> ...or are you using a USB sound card?
[23:39] <noober> got disconnected again and previous username not working
[23:41] <WinCamXP> I'm writing a bash script here, may I ask how to delete a folder inside a jar file with the 'jar' command?
[23:41] <debugnet> BlueEagle: hidensoft is have this problem because tuxguitar can't be found or is not installed...
[23:41] <hidensoft> BlueEagle: http://pastie.org/2478299
[23:41] <WinCamXP> I understand how to add files to .jar files, but how would I completely remove one?
[23:41] <debugnet> WinCamXP: unzip the jar file and then rezip the file again. that's all it is really.
[23:41] <hidensoft> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset High Definition Audio (rev 05)
[23:41] <WinCamXP> great, the .jar file has sixty million class files in it
[23:41] <WinCamXP> maybe ill make the script extract the files into a folder
[23:42] <hidensoft> and this : 01:00.1 Audio device: nVidia Corporation GF108 High Definition Audio Controller (rev a1)
[23:42] <BlueEagle> debugnet: Are you certain of that? Because tuxguitar does not create /dev/sequnecer
[23:42] <WinCamXP> edit whats in that folder
[23:42] <WinCamXP> (oops forgot about enter punctuation) and then put everything back in the jar in its modified state
[23:42] <WinCamXP> i can use wildcards (*), correct?
[23:42] <debugnet> BlueEagle: according to the pastie/pastebin output that is what the sudo command is getting. either his environment variables for the path is not setup or it is not installed at all.
[23:43] <hidensoft> debugnet: i think problem is something about MIDI , because tuxguitar use that
[23:44] <WinCamXP> debugnet: so I can move everything inside the .jar with a wildcard (*) into a folder, then delete the .jar, modify what's in the folder and recreate the .jar with the contents of the folder?
[23:44] <BlueEagle> debugnet: No, the command processes just find but the application fails because /dev/sequencer does not exist. That is unless you know something I don't.
[23:44] <cystic> hello I am trying to install kvm in 11.04 but I keep getting a 404 error with apt-get even after I update it. any suggestions?
[23:44] <noob> bazhang: what kind of details? as i've said, i'm running ubuntu 11.04 (and tried 11.10B) on hp touchsmart tm2-2050us with hybrid graphics intel I3/ati and every time it boots up i get a black screen and have to close&open the laptop about 5 times to get ANYTHING to come up.
[23:44] <noob> i've been having this problem since 10.04 when i got my laptop and all i've found is that what i need to do has something to do with vga_switcheroo which isn't explained in the help pages in any way that i'm currently able to understand. i'm getting tired of having this
[23:45] <noob> problem, the hinge on my laptop is getting worn out, and if theres any more details needed than that before someone will actually try to help me get it working,
[23:45] <noob> i need someone to tell me what details and where do i get them
[23:45] <WinCamXP> whats the copy command in bash?
[23:46] <noob> cp
[23:46] <WinCamXP> so cp [filestocopy] [copythemhere]?
[23:46] <bazhang> noob, I asked whether this was an optimus system, and which card you were trying to use
[23:46] <happie> hi
[23:46] <WinCamXP> so cp [filestocopy] [copythemhere]?
[23:46] <BlueEagle> hidensoft: cat /proc/asound/oss/sndstat
[23:47] <BlueEagle> hidensoft: does that show any Midi devices?
[23:47] <hidensoft> cat: /proc/asound/oss/sndstat: No such file or directory
[23:47] <noob> ah sorry, don't know what you mean by "optimus system" and graphics card is hybrid intel/ati built into the processor afaik
[23:47] <happie> how to format a pendrive
[23:47] <bazhang> noob, yes, I know. which card are you trying to use
[23:47] <bazhang> happie, gparted
[23:47] <happie> what is that
[23:47] <BlueEagle> hidensoft: sudo aplaymidi -l
[23:48] <bazhang> !gparted > happie
[23:48] <noob> whichever one gives me something other than a black screen on boot. idk which its trying to use now
[23:48] <WinCamXP> its 'cp filetocopy dirtocopyto', right?
[23:48] <debugnet> WinCamXP: that is one solution. i would keep that folder too as a working folder so you don't have to extract and compress everytime you need to generate it.
[23:49] <Polah> Would anybody know where I could get wine1.3.25 as a .deb?
[23:49] <hidensoft> BlueEagle http://pastie.org/2478327
[23:49] <BlueEagle> WinCamXP: Well the ' should be ` but otherwise yes. You can specify a filename as well, but if dirtocopyto is an existing directory the file name will be the same.
[23:49] <debugnet> BlueEagle: i don't understand that particular application but i do understand bash very well and that error message is what you get when it can't find the program you are trying to run.
[23:49] <WinCamXP> what i was planning on doing was copying the jar to an isolated folder, extracting it, doing all the operations in that folder, recompressing the files back into a .jar and replacing the .jar back in the first folder with the modified one, would that work?
[23:50] <noob> bazhang: how can i find out which card its trying to use when it boots up? i'm pretty sure i want to use the opposite of that
[23:50] <happie> gparted installed now what ?
[23:50] <debugnet> WinCamXP: yep
[23:50] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1782966   noob this may be relevant
[23:50] <yekoms> need a lil help. when i boot the ubuntu CD, the image is all distorted. any ideas?
[23:51] <bazhang> Polah, tried the #winehq repos ?
[23:51] <happie> what is Gsoc ?
[23:51] <yekoms> no advice?
[23:51] <debugnet> yekoms: if it is an rw disc, reburn the image else you will need to reburn to another disc. soz about that...
[23:51] <yekoms> its a CDR.
[23:51] <BlueEagle> debugnet: No it is not.
[23:52] <BlueEagle> hidensoft: http://tuxguitar.herac.com.ar/forum/5/1277/no-sound-in-debian-after-deletion-of-pulse/ could be helpful.
[23:52] <Polah> bazhang: They have specific repos for wine? I have the development ppa which gave me 1.3.27, but I need 1.3.25 for some program compatibility and building from source failed
[23:52] <WinCamXP> i can use ~ for the user's home folder instead of /home/username, correct?
[23:52] <yekoms> and when it spins up, it sounds rough but it installed fine on my other notebook.
[23:52] <yekoms> yes WinCamXP
[23:52] <yekoms> ~ is /home/user
[23:52] <WinCamXP> okay, thanks
[23:52] <happie> how to install gnu library?
[23:52] <noob> bazhang: thanks, will try it
[23:52] <Polah> yekoms: Is it just the Ubuntu image while booting that is distorted? Does the actual system display fine when loaded?
[23:53] <yekoms> both.
[23:53] <happie> how to format a pendrive ?
[23:53] <BlueEagle> debugnet: This is what you get when not installed: The program 'tuxguitar' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:\n sudo apt-get install tuxguitar
[23:53] <bazhang> happie, using gparted
[23:53] <cystic> can someone help me with a problem I am having real quick?
[23:53] <yekoms> i installed along windows, and its distorted, and when i boot the cd
[23:53] <confezzor> hi all...i know Canonical wanted Ubuntu to be low powered but holy crap it's not..i know it's in beta now 11.10 but my cpu is retarded but my RAM is great at 380 to 560MBs...i really hope it's fixed by final
[23:53] <yekoms> its a widescreen notebook if that matters.
[23:54] <WinCamXP> yekoms: what GPU is it? sounds like a driver issue
[23:54] <yekoms> nvidia
[23:54] <confezzor> Nvidia
[23:54] <yekoms> 630m
[23:54] <Polah> bazhang: Okay, I got a .dev for 1.3.25, if I just run it through software centre will it overwrite or should I remove 1.3.27 first?
[23:54] <xangua> confezzor: then don't use beta releases
[23:54] <WinCamXP> google something like this "nvidia 630m ubuntu"
[23:54] <WinCamXP> see if any relevant problems come up
[23:54] <cystic> everytime I try to install software with ubuntu software center it says failed to download packages, check internet connection. but I am obviously connected to the internet.
[23:54] <confezzor> no and 11.04 does the same
[23:55] <JasonGriffee> can anyone tell me how to boost bass in ubuntu 11.04?
[23:55] <xangua> confezzor: for low resources there is xubuntu and lubuntu
[23:55] <Polah> yekoms: Try installing and then enable the proprietary drivers for it. When I install my plymouth logo is distorted using generic drivers.
[23:55] <cystic> what can I do to fix it?
[23:55] <Polah> JasonGriffee: I believe Banshee has a built in equaliser plugin
[23:55] <BlueEagle> Polah: If you don't know the answer you should read up on package management before you use anything out side of the repo.
[23:55] <confezzor> no my cpu is over 50% without doing anything
[23:55] <bazhang> confezzor, #ubuntu+1 for 11.10
[23:55] <confezzor> on 11.04 as well
[23:55] <hidensoft> sometime i think about Suicide
[23:55] <BlueEagle> Polah: Oh, you're down grading. Didn't see that at once.
[23:56] <yekoms> all the google responces i found is to configure it. not fixing the distortion
[23:56] <BlueEagle> Polah: When downgrading I always uninstall when possible.
[23:56] <confezzor> my PC can handle anything..just wondering why it's using 50% and more cpu power when i'm not even doing anything
[23:56] <bazhang> Polah, I'd remove then install
[23:56] <JasonGriffee> Polah: No Good, I need a system-wide program because I listen to Rhapsody.
[23:56] <noob> hidensoft: its okay, log out of this room and youll feel better
[23:56] <WinCamXP> so if i have a .jar file in a directory and I use 'jar xf name.jar', it will place every file inside the jar into the current directory?
[23:56] <Polah> Hmm, I'll do that then
[23:56] <bazhang> confezzor, #ubuntu+1 for oneiric as I just said
[23:56] <Polah> Best to be on the safe side anyway
[23:57] <BlueEagle> hidensoft: o.0 That sounds drastic.
[23:57] <BlueEagle> hidensoft: Did you not have the tuxguitar-alsa plugin?
[23:57] <soreau> WinCamXP: If you want to experiment, make a copy of the directory first (a backup)
[23:58] <yekoms> ill reburn at a slower speed, i did 24x on this one
[23:58] <hidensoft> noob: no this room is not my problem
[23:58] <Polah> What's the command to check package policies?
[23:58] <WinCamXP> is there a way in bash to have a 'press any key to continue' pause or something similar?
[23:58] <hidensoft> BlueEagle: no , i try now
[23:58] <soreau> WinCamXP: Otherwise, try googling about how to use jar files
[23:58] <Polah> nevermind, I found it.
[23:58] <hidensoft> pooof , tuxguitar-alsa
[23:58] <soreau> Polah: apt-cache policy pkg-name
[23:58] <hidensoft> tuxguitar-alsa is already the newest version.
[23:59] <WinCamXP> well, since the jar command is apparently cross-platform due to it being part of java, i could make a windows batch script that does the same thing?
[23:59] <soreau> WinCamXP: Yes. Ask in #bash
[23:59] <WinCamXP> oh theres a whole channel for that, thanks
[23:59] <X_already_in_use> Is it really necessary to screw harddrive? I have a few extra hdd's and I just lay them sideway inside the tower/case.