[06:15] <kilonux> need help
[15:19] <dude> hello dudes
[15:19] <dude> if i want to upgrade from maverick to natty
[15:19] <dude> do i have to install first ubuntu-studio on maverick
[15:19] <dude> so on the upgrade it also installs gnome2?
[15:31] <holstein> dude: installing ubuntustudio-desktop will do that
[15:31] <holstein> i would do it after the upgrade
[15:31] <holstein> arguably faster
[15:32] <holstein> either way... i would *not* do an upgrade unless theres just no other way
[15:32] <holstein> takes 4 ever
[15:48] <dude> my settings?
[15:48] <dude> i think ubuntu natty will erase gnome2?
[15:56] <holstein> dude: you have what installed now?
[15:56] <holstein> just plain ubuntu?
[15:56] <holstein> if you have ubuntustudio installed
[15:56] <holstein> you upgrade, and you get gnome
[15:56] <holstein> if you upgrade in the vanilla, you get unity
[15:56] <holstein> you can have both
[15:59] <holstein> i would just choose a path by which to upgrade/obtain natty
[15:59] <holstein> and deal with the DE when you get there
[15:59] <holstein> dude: maverick i mean*
[16:13] <dude> i installed ubuntu maverick plain with gnome2
[16:13] <dude> what DE?
[16:15] <holstein> desktop environment
[16:15] <holstein> DE = unity, gnome, whatever
[16:15] <holstein> if you want to upgrade to maverick, just upgrade to maverick
[16:15] <holstein> then, get the DE you want when you get there
[16:16] <holstein> you can install gnome, and have unity and gnome
[16:16] <holstein> you can install ubuntustudio-desktop, which will give you gnome2 with the ubuntustudio look/feel
[16:17] <holstein> dude: so, you are on maverick already?
[16:17] <holstein> you want to upgrade to natty?
[16:17] <holstein> same deal
[16:17] <holstein> you'll upgrade to natty
[16:18] <holstein> you'll get whateve DE you're hardware supports
[16:18] <holstein> you'll probably get unity with the 'classic' desktop option
[16:18] <holstein> classic is gnome2
[16:18] <holstein> but, you just decide when you get there
[16:18] <holstein> or relax, and dont install natty
[16:30] <holstein> dude: how about this... upgrade to, or install natty, and come here, or #ubuntu or #ubuntu-beginners if you need help getting gnome running
[17:53] <dude> i have to save the gnome settings somewhere
[17:53] <dude> then i might be able to upgrade
[17:53] <dude> i think its stored in my home dir
[17:54] <dude> for oneric i will have to wait till someone releases a mate
[19:10] <holstein> dude: mate?
[19:10] <holstein> you can always just copy your home directory
[19:10] <holstein> upgrading will keep that in place though
[19:10] <holstein> all of those relavant settings will stay in place
[19:54] <dude> mate is the fork of gnome actually sed in archlinux
[19:54] <dude> used
[19:55] <holstein> eh, will see if it sticks aroung
[19:55] <holstein> around*
[19:55] <holstein> personally, i say check out XFCE
[19:55] <holstein> its not unlike gnome2
[19:55] <holstein> and it *very* well developed
[19:55] <holstein> it is*
[19:55] <holstein> mate is the 2nd fork i know of
[19:56] <holstein> and its abviously not the future
[19:59] <dude> i cannot use that
[20:00] <holstein> dude: use what?
[20:00] <holstein> XFCE?
[20:00] <holstein> why?
[20:00] <holstein> its very gnome2 like
[20:00] <holstein> i think you are thinking of LXDE
[20:00] <holstein> or KDE
[21:33] <dude> well gnome2 was a good compromise