[00:40] <FernandoMiguel> nite
[01:31] <tarvid> ran apt-get install wordpress. Now what?
[01:35] <urlin2u> tarvid, hows about a wiki. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WordPress
[01:37] <tarvid> thanks, I hope
[01:41] <basso> im shitty drunk
[01:42] <basso> u got to boot mac on efi
[01:42] <basso> just to fail on using nividia driver
[01:42] <basso> becuase it failed
[01:42] <basso> anybay becaus ei used btrfs
[01:43] <basso> who knows
[01:47] <basso> ladrty hard!
[01:47] <tardis> !drink
[01:49] <basso> i give report y4omotrrow
[01:49] <basso> juzt remember nit to parrty to hard
[01:49] <urlin2u> basso, are you going to act as if this was a channel for all ages
[01:49] <urlin2u> just asking:D
[01:50] <basso> under  188888 hgcgakllenges it as a worldaplan
[01:50] <basso> they gwave no uidea wagts goung on
[01:50] <basso> famn
[01:51] <basso> i think i need to sleep it our
[01:54] <tarvid> that is not as easy as the 5-minute manyual install
[01:55] <tarvid> but that doesn't work either
[02:11] <marknigh> Hi y'all,  I installed 11.10 beta today. Would not boot. Tried to reinstall from my usb pen drive, it booted. It won't boot without the pen drive and boots right up with it in. Any thoughts?
[02:13] <urlin2u> marknigh, sounds like you got grub on the pendrive, boot to 11.10I will give you the commands to put grub in the HD's mbr.
[02:15] <marknigh> ok
[02:16] <urlin2u> marknigh, the HD and pendrives get reversed at times, so once in run sudo fdisk -l  to confirm the hd as sda or sdb, or another set, no partition numbers needed.
[02:17] <marknigh> i set it up as sda
[02:17] <marknigh> i'll check
[02:17] <urlin2u> marknigh, you may have had the pendrive being read a sda though they get reversed.
[02:18] <urlin2u> on occasion
[02:19] <marknigh> Disk /dev/sda: 160.0 GB, 160041885696 bytes
[02:19] <marknigh> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 19457 cylinders, total 312581808 sectors
[02:19] <marknigh> Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
[02:19] <marknigh> Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
[02:19] <marknigh> I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
[02:20] <marknigh> Disk identifier: 0x00005205
[02:20] <marknigh>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[02:20] <marknigh> /dev/sda1            2048   310505471   155251712   83  Linux
[02:20] <marknigh> /dev/sda2       310507518   312580095     1036289    5  Extended
[02:20] <marknigh> /dev/sda5       310507520   312580095     1036288   82  Linux swap / Solaris
[02:20] <marknigh> Disk /dev/sdb: 8019 MB, 8019509248 bytes
[02:20] <marknigh> 247 heads, 62 sectors/track, 1022 cylinders, total 15663104 sectors
[02:20] <marknigh> Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
[02:20] <marknigh> Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
[02:20] <marknigh> I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
[02:20] <marknigh> Disk identifier: 0x00002a87
[02:20] <marknigh>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[02:20] <marknigh> /dev/sdb1   *          62    15650907     7825423    c  W95 FAT32 (LBA)
[02:20] <urlin2u> marknigh, is the 160 gig drive the hd
[02:20] <marknigh> yes
[02:20] <urlin2u> marknigh, run sudo grub-install /dev/sda
[02:21] <urlin2u> the sudo update-grub
[02:21] <urlin2u> then*
[02:23] <urlin2u> sudo grub-install /dev/sda in one line if needed
[02:23] <marknigh> mark@mark:~$ sudo update-grub
[02:24] <marknigh> Generating grub.cfg ...
[02:24] <marknigh> Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-3.0.0-9-generic
[02:24] <marknigh> Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-3.0.0-9-generic
[02:24] <marknigh> Found memtest86+ image: /boot/memtest86+.bin
[02:24] <marknigh> done
[02:24] <urlin2u> that all you have on there?
[02:24] <marknigh> do i need the last command?
[02:24] <marknigh> from that command
[02:25] <urlin2u> I would run it to be safe, it just rebuilds the grub , you mean sudo update-grub yes.
[02:25] <marknigh> yes, i will
[02:27] <urlin2u> so when you do anything don't assume the hd letters, when you have booted with a usb drive or at all ever really, this happens often with usb boots on my setup.
[02:28] <marknigh> mark@mark:~$ sudo grub-install /dev/sda
[02:28] <marknigh> Installation finished. No error reported.
[02:28] <marknigh> mark@mark:~$ sudo update-grub
[02:28] <marknigh> Generating grub.cfg ...
[02:28] <marknigh> Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-3.0.0-9-generic
[02:28] <marknigh> Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-3.0.0-9-generic
[02:28] <marknigh> Found memtest86+ image: /boot/memtest86+.bin
[02:28] <marknigh> done
[02:28] <urlin2u> you just have oneiric on the HD?
[02:29] <marknigh> yes
[02:29] <urlin2u> cool reboot you should be set. :D
[02:29] <marknigh> how would i do that properly next time?
[02:31] <marknigh> Thanks urlin2u I've been working on and around this all day!  :)
[02:31] <urlin2u> you can run the sudo fdisk -l to confirm how the set up is when you boot from a usb, or use the somnething elase option in thewhere to install, or loook a the hd with gparted, or the disk utility.
[02:31] <urlin2u> sorry for the spelling my cat is attacking me for attention
[02:32] <marknigh> okay thanks again I might be able to sleep now!
[02:32] <urlin2u> no problem:D
[03:40] <gnomie> is it me or does nautilus seem to be missing icons for files and folders?
[03:40] <gnomie> 0.o
[03:41] <gnomie> just happened to open it for the first time and.. looks pretty bland to me
[03:42] <urlin2u> gnomie, hit crtl-h to show the hidden files.
[03:43] <gnomie> i mean, the icons themselves.. they all look the same
[03:44] <gnomie> across the board.. same icon for files AND folders
[03:45] <urlin2u> it's in development
[03:46] <gnomie> just checking. is a bug or what then?
[03:46] <gnomie> o.o
[03:47] <gnomie> am guessing you arent seeing the same thing in your nautilus
[03:47] <urlin2u> I'm in natty right now.
[03:47] <gnomie> :-/
[03:48] <urlin2u> oneiric is really buggy on my end, no unity and and gnome3 barely works, when it opens to it.
[03:50] <gnomie> am having way better luck then; i still would like confirmation from someone on the beta1
[03:51] <gnomie> in fact, scratch that last bit.. am going off to bed or sumthing
[04:22] <SirFunk> hey, so i'm upgrading from 11.04 -> 11.10 beta on a netbook i use for messing around on... it has taken about 12 hours so far and says it has about 4 hours left... this is REDICULOUS... there is about 1200mb free memory and the cpu doesn't seem maxed, what could be causing the slowdown?
[04:23] <rww> bandwidth
[04:23] <rww> slow update mirror
[04:23] <dtigue> i tried to upgrade to 11.10 and am now getting an error with installing ubuntu-desktop after the reboot
[04:25] <SirFunk> rww: no... it finished downloading about 11 hours ago
[04:25] <rww> SirFunk: oh. no idea, then
[04:25] <SirFunk> yeah it's crazy... i can't figure out what the bottleneck could be
[04:28] <dtigue> it seems ubuntu-desktop depends on libatk-adapter but that package isn't found
[05:33] <urlin2u> crsh
[05:33] <urlin2u> yipeee the gnome shell works most of the time. ;D
[05:36] <Drakeson> does aptitude changelog work?  (Please try something, e.g., "aptitude changelog apt", and see if it works). It does not work here, and I am trying to see if I need to install something to make it work ...
[05:47] <Onlyodin> urlin2u, are you back on oneiric now? unity still broken too?
[05:48] <urlin2u> Onlyodin, yeah but gnome-shell is good.
[05:48] <Onlyodin> same here
[05:48] <Onlyodin> I see kernel 3.0.0-10 has been released too.
[05:49] <urlin2u> got a cpu indicator installed though from a ppa.
[05:50] <urlin2u> I see the kernel stuff in the terminal thanks for the heads up.
[05:57] <urlin2u> Onlyodin, put the window buttons back as well in gnome-shell
[06:26] <Onlyodin> urlin2u, what, through gconf-editor?
[06:27] <urlin2u> Onlyodin, yeah called configuration edotor now
[06:28] <urlin2u> editor
[06:28] <urlin2u> still answer in a synapse search though
[06:29] <urlin2u> answers
[06:29] <Onlyodin> where abouts?
[06:29] <micahg> gconf is deprecated
[06:30] <Onlyodin> by what?
[06:31] <urlin2u> desktop-gnome-shell-windows
[06:32] <Onlyodin> 'cause that's easy to remember
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[06:32] <urlin2u> button layout change it then hit enter to keep it
[06:32] <micahg> dconf/gsettings
[06:33] <Onlyodin> excellent, that doesn't seem to exist.
[06:37] <Onlyodin> I've edited /desktop/gnome/shell/windows/button_layout, but it's made no difference.
[06:37] <Onlyodin> Do I need to log out/in? It used to take effect instantly with metacity
[06:37] <urlin2u> Onlyodin, if the edit is set you need to logut and back in
[06:38] <urlin2u> dconf has a lot of control though I have that installed as well just wanted window buttons.
[06:49] <Stanley00> oneiric need restart to complete update, I dont think log out and in IRC channel freq is very bad...
[06:52] <micahg> anyone have the update manager disappear during upgrade?
[06:59] <urlin2u> micahg, running it right now so far so good.
[06:59] <Stanley00> micahg: not in my case...
[06:59] <micahg> hmm, well, let's see if I can reboot...hopefully be back in a minute
[06:59]  * micahg meant 11.04 -> 11.10 upgrade
[07:17] <urlin2u> micahg, so what has you upgrading from natty?
[07:17] <micahg> need to dogfood oneiric :)
[07:18] <urlin2u> I never upgrade, some do some don't
[07:20] <Stanley00> I just use fresh install, all I need is the list of installed software :D
[07:21] <urlin2u> same here.
[07:21] <urlin2u> and the sources.list and sources.list.d
[07:23] <Onlyodin> hmm
[07:24] <Onlyodin> it seems that every other time I reboot, I get no window borders
[07:25] <Onlyodin> even in gnome-shell
[07:30] <knightstalker> Hello,on 11.10 I am having problems with nautilus search box,anyone have the same issue?
[07:31] <Stanley00> knightstalker: would you please be more spec on the error?
[07:31] <Stanley00> *problem*
[07:32] <knightstalker> Well,In 9.10 and above(and probably the other releases as well),I could type the whole word to search for a filename,but here,search box disappears after 1-2 letters and when the 3rd letter is inputed it will search for a filename starting with 3rd letter
[07:35] <knightstalker> Btw,I am not talking about clicking search button and...,I am talking about typing letters when you are on a folder
[07:35] <Stanley00> knightstalker: never try that, but let me see a moment..
[07:35] <knightstalker> okay =)
[07:36] <Stanley00> knightstalker: work fine with me, may be you break up too long?
[07:36] <knightstalker> erm,no
[07:36] <knightstalker> I type pretty fast actually
[07:36] <knightstalker> I think I can take a movie from it :p
[07:37] <Stanley00> knightstalker: well, then I dont know, it works fine with me.
[07:37] <knightstalker> Weird
[07:37] <knightstalker> It can be hardwares,Ubuntu runs different on every computer I tried
[07:38] <knightstalker> lol,and,while searching through the search button and while search is in progress,there is one way to cancel the search(using the red button in the bottom),and funny part is,that dodges my clicks,I mean when I try to cancel the search,I can not
[07:39] <knightstalker> that is not reproduce able as well over there Stanley00?
[07:40] <Stanley00> hehe, it's weird about the cancel :))
[07:40] <Stanley00> knightstalker: I cant click at all
[07:40] <knightstalker> woah
[07:40] <knightstalker> so that IS reproduce able?
[07:41] <knightstalker> so damn hardware wasn't to blame this time :P
[07:41] <Stanley00> I dont know either.
[07:41] <urlin2u> I,m afraid to hit the search box so far it crashes my set up.
[07:41] <knightstalker> lol
[07:41] <knightstalker> not here
[07:42] <knightstalker> I did a fresh install anyways,ubiquity crashed trying to update my ubuntu
[07:42] <knightstalker> so I formatted the HDD completely :3
[07:42] <urlin2u> have the latest kernel here goes.
[07:42] <knightstalker> Me too
[07:42] <urlin2u> whoa works now.
[07:43] <Stanley00> knightstalker: I rarely let it update while install, just do that after all. and hopefully, it's work for me :D
[07:43] <knightstalker> ^.^,so can you try searching for example mp3 in whole file system(I know its pretty stupid,but not doing that search will be done fast enough that the bug can not be viewed),and try to cancel the search without closing the whole window
[07:43] <knightstalker> using the red X in the bottom
[07:45] <Stanley00> knightstalker: ah! you can press space to cancel it, since it have focus on default...
[07:47] <urlin2u> I even have transparent conky working gnome3 in fedora had problems with conkies.
[07:52] <knightstalker> what about:
[07:52] <knightstalker> https://bugs.launchpad.net/lightdm/+bug/840777
[07:58] <yellabs> test
[07:58] <knightstalker> test back
[07:58] <jbicha> knightstalker: nice bug :-)
[07:58] <yellabs> thanks
[07:58] <yellabs> :)
[07:58] <knightstalker> welcome :p
[07:59] <yellabs> is there an bug in the installer ?
[07:59] <knightstalker> jbicha,if it exists,I mean it exists on my device,and it hurts me when my sister is sleeping and I need to turn on the computer
[07:59] <knightstalker> not sure about other devices/hardwares
[07:59] <yellabs> at first boot , it somehow misses an picture or something
[07:59] <knightstalker> Oh,right :p
[07:59] <knightstalker> yellabs,my installer was also on a black background
[08:00] <yellabs> yeah , right, but i think its searching for an picture, or the slideshow
[08:00] <yellabs> or something, wich is missing
[08:01] <yellabs> maybe the team is working on an new slideshow ?
[08:03] <yellabs> for Ubiquity
[08:03] <knightstalker> Probably,because the current slideshow while installing is identical to 11.04
[08:03] <knightstalker> and they release new slideshows for each version
[08:03] <yellabs> okey..
[08:04] <jbicha> knightstalker: if you have a hardware mute button, use that; there's a way to disable the login sound but I'll have to investigate how since it looks slightly different in 11.10
[08:04] <yellabs> seems to be an bug report about it here : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/831743
[08:06] <knightstalker> jbicha,ah,never tried that on 11.10,but on 11.04,my computer got busy running apps and desktop and mute button started functioning AFTER the sound is played
[08:06] <knightstalker> so no use,but will try on next boot to see if it works on new version
[08:07] <yellabs> cant you find the sound in startup applications ?
[08:07] <yellabs> its called gnome login sound , or something simular
[08:08] <yellabs> on the right top of the gnome menu where also system settings are you find
[08:08] <knightstalker> no gnome login sound/login sound in dash,yellabs,even if that existed,it doesn't justify having a useless sound settings in LightDM
[08:08] <yellabs> startup applications
[08:08] <knightstalker> let me see
[08:08] <yellabs> oh
[08:09] <yellabs> okey
[08:09] <yellabs> just a thought
[08:09] <knightstalker> np =)
[08:09] <knightstalker> I'll try that for now,thanks
[08:12] <yellabs> is it possible to move the gnome menu from top to bottum ?
[08:12] <yellabs> or is it called unity menu ?
[08:12] <yellabs> :P
[08:14] <jbicha> yellabs: no, it's not possible to move either the launcher (the left bar) or the menu bar (the top bar)
[08:15] <yellabs> yes , is see, reading marks comment on that issue righ tnow
[08:15] <yellabs> i see *
[08:16] <yellabs> does gnome-config editor have any control on the unity desktop settings ?
[08:16] <micahg> has anyone had any issues with iwlagn in oneiric?
[08:18] <yellabs> i dont know, is this the same issue ? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1592846
[08:18] <Hew> I've just upgraded from natty to oneiric. After restarting and logging in, I'm presented with the background wallpaper and the "file, edit" etc menubar, that's it. There's no sign of a unity interface. Anyone familiar with this problem, or have an idea what I need to change?
[08:20] <Volkodav> same here but only in gnome
[08:20] <Volkodav> unity and xfce works fine
[08:20] <Stanley00> Hew: oneiric just on beta testing, so upgrade is not a wise idea.
[08:20] <Volkodav> actually gnome was fine too until I changed the background
[08:21] <yellabs> did the live version run alright ?
[08:24] <yellabs> take a read here, maybe it helps
[08:24] <yellabs> http://askubuntu.com/questions/37910/after-login-desktop-appears-but-theres-no-menu-bar-and-no-dash
[08:25] <yellabs> if not, we have to find an other answer... :)
[08:25] <yellabs> an other option is to backup your data to external usb drive or media, and just do an clean reinstall
[08:26] <yellabs> but i understand thats not what you really would want in the first place..
[08:33] <Hew> Stanley00, I understand it's in beta, which is why I waited for beta 1 rather than jumping into alphas this cycle. However as this is the appropriate testing support channel, is there any idea how to fix this problem? Or is unity being broken a known issue.
[08:35] <Stanley00> Hew: I just suggest that if you want to test oneiric, install a fresh, along side your primary, working OS is a good idea ;)
[08:35] <Hew> Stanley00, so upgrading to oneiric is expected to break unity for beta? Is this a bug I should report?
[08:37] <Stanley00> Hew: I just say it safer to fresh install, I rarely use dist-updagrade or something like that, so, i dont know at last.
[08:39] <Hew> ok, thanks for your help Stanley00
[08:39] <micahg> Hew: I think it is supposed to work
[08:39] <micahg> Hew: please file a bug with ubuntu-bug if it's reproducible
[08:39] <Trewas> Hew: you could also try by creating a new user (empty homedir), so old settings don't potentially break something
[08:40] <Hew> micahg, ok I'll restart again and see what happens.
[08:40] <Hew> Trewas, good point Trewas I'll try that too
[09:14] <Hew> the missing unity problem was not reproducible.. after logging out and in again unity has appeared. Looks like a one-off after upgrading.
[09:16] <Stanley00> ^ that's why I didn't use upgrade at all :D
[09:20] <topyli> so. how do i enable the notification area so that i can make the wicd status visible?
[09:22] <bazhang> !find wicd
[09:24] <Stanley00> topyli: you can install dconf-tools and use dconf-editor to find key name indicator
[09:24] <topyli> thanks Stanley00, let me see
[09:25] <Stanley00> topyli: it's desktop/unity/panel
[09:26] <Stanley00> change the value to 'all', but I dont recommend this, because it's show some weird on my system
[09:26] <topyli> found it, just need to figure out the process name
[09:27] <Stanley00> topyli: or just simply use "all" :)
[09:27] <topyli> i seem to remember it doing strange stuff as well :)
[09:27] <topyli> like HUGE icons
[09:27] <Stanley00> yep, HUGE icon =))
[09:33] <tjoy> !find libguestfs
[09:33] <tjoy> :|
[09:34] <Stanley00> topyli: did you figure out the process name?
[09:35] <Stanley00> topyli: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1742311 says it is 'wicd-client.py'
[09:40] <AnAnt> Hello, I am upgrading to oneiric now, and I noticed that the following packages are being removed: indicator-applet-session, indicator-me, indicator-applet-appmenu, indicator-applet-complete, gnome-panel   is that normal ?
[09:40] <Stanley00> AnAnt: yes, as long as your system still working  ;)), I think
[09:41] <AnAnt> but why are those removed ?
[09:41] <AnAnt> are they replaced with something else ?
[09:41] <micahg> AnAnt: indicator-me has been replaced with indicator-session
[09:42] <jbicha> the indicator-applets don't work in Oneiric yet and you should be able to reinstall gnome-panel after you upgrade
[09:43] <jbicha> there are still GNOME 2 panel applets that haven't been ported to gnome-panel 3 though...
[10:01] <topyli> Stanley00: ah yes, i remember that's what it's called in the gnome-shell notification area
[10:01] <topyli> Stanley00: i had to postpone my unity testing  for now though, because it keeps crashing :)
[10:01] <Stanley00> topyli: :)
[10:01] <topyli> (gnome-shell is not very stable today either though)
[10:15] <sagaci> ok so I'm having trouble now with the 3G internet connection. I have a Huawei E1762 and up until this latest update of networkmanager, it's been working flawlessly, I've tried reinstalling and fiddling around with it but it just comes up at Modem network ... disonnected - you are now offline - on the notification box. Is there any workarounds and/or bugs about this?
[10:15] <sagaci> is there anywhere I can check for error logs, etc?
[10:17] <topyli> i think network-mangler writes logs to /var/log/syslog
[10:17] <topyli> not sure though
[10:18] <sagaci> righteo, I'll check that
[10:18] <topyli> in the meantime, you can get connected with 'what's that nice commandline program for this whose name i forget'
[10:19]  * topyli finds out
[10:19] <sagaci> i've tried various cli 3G connection programs, with never any luck :/
[10:19] <topyli> oh
[10:20] <topyli> your udev rules might be broken then
[10:20] <sagaci> besides I'd probably have to install them via the internet which isn't possible at the moment :/
[10:20] <sagaci> topyli, good thinking
[10:20] <sagaci> running the latest oneiric build, installed from daily today
[10:21] <topyli> today is a bad day apparently :)
[10:22] <sagaci> well networkmanager updated a few days ago and that's when it's started to happen
[10:23] <gnomie> "03:17 < micahg> need to dogfood oneiric :)" || ocelots are a type of cat  :(
[10:25] <sagaci> so how does one go about changing those settings, back in gnome2 it was just in user accounts in that dialogue box with tickboxes that say something like Access a modem, access printers, Administer the system... where is this in gnome3?
[10:30] <topyli> gnomie: can't you get wired somehow? debugging and fixing your internet connection is a tad difficult without an internet connection :)
[10:30] <topyli> the perfect problem
[10:32] <sagaci> yeah I'll postpone this until tomorrow morning when I have a wired connection
[10:34] <gnomie> menu bar and side panel positions are not an 'issue'. they are design choices. and they are seemingly unmutable for this edition.
[10:39] <gnomie> topyli: i never mentioned i had any wifi issue ..
[10:39]  * gnomie shrugs
[10:39] <topyli> gnomie: sorry, talking to the wrong person here
[10:40] <gnomie> i get that !alot lately.. must be the new nick
[10:40] <gnomie> :-P
[11:54] <BluesKaj> howdy all
[11:55] <BluesKaj> just upgraded to the new kernel version...wonder what's in store now
[11:56] <penguin42> not much new I don't think
[12:34] <sagaci> http://paste.ubuntu.com/681809/ - tail syslog for 3G modem failure, I guess I'll just file a bug
[12:49] <falstaff> Hello
[12:49] <sagaci> hi
[12:49] <falstaff> Is there an easy way to enable gallium3d to use 3d version of unity?
[12:49] <Stanley00> falstaff: is that an video card?
[12:50] <falstaff> Stanley00, no, a 3d driver as far as i know...
[12:50] <falstaff> Stanley00, I've got a nividia graphic card
[12:51] <Stanley00> falstaff: I think, when you have your driver fully install, it will be unity 3d by default?
[12:51] <falstaff> oneiric seems to come with nueveau by default, I wanted to try that one
[12:52]  * Stanley00 never heard about nueveau...
[12:56] <BluesKaj> falstaff, look in additional drivers for the recommended nvidia driver , nouveau is the default and is only used due to it's stabiliity on without SD or DR
[12:56] <BluesKaj> ^ insert pc
[12:57] <BluesKaj> admin>additional drivers , I believe ..gnome users can correct me if the path I post is incorrect
[12:58] <BluesKaj> <kde
[12:58] <goshawk> hi
[12:58] <goshawk> i'm testing ubuntu oneiric in a server and there is an issue with grub2. if the server is down due to a power cut when it boots it gets stuck on grub menu waiting for keyboard input. i think it's a very dangerous setting for a server...
[12:59] <Stanley00> goshawk: then, you just have to manually edit grub.cfg file :D
[12:59] <goshawk> Stanley00, i did
[13:00] <goshawk> Stanley00, but having this behavior by default on ubuntu server does not make the distribution suitable for server IMHO
[13:00] <BluesKaj> goshawk, the timeout ?
[13:00] <goshawk> BluesKaj, yeah
[13:00] <goshawk> i did this modification..
[13:00] <goshawk> w8
[13:00] <BluesKaj> =0
[13:00] <BluesKaj> ?
[13:01] <rigved> hi everyone.
[13:01] <goshawk> yeah
[13:01] <goshawk> from =-1 to =0
[13:01] <goshawk> in 00_header
[13:02] <goshawk> BluesKaj, i suggest to change it for at least ubuntu server
[13:02] <rigved> i am using the latest beta version. my unity session seems to have crashed. the unity launcher does not load. unity --replace gets stuck. but everything is working fine in all the other accounts on this laptop.
[13:02]  * Stanley00 didnt notice that 00_header have that option :D
[13:02] <BluesKaj> goshawk, edit /etc/default/grub, not the cfg  file
[13:03] <BluesKaj> then make sure you sudo update-grub , goshawk
[13:03] <goshawk> BluesKaj,  yeah i did and i fixed
[13:03] <goshawk> modifying 00_header as suggested in stackoverflow
[13:03] <goshawk> w8
[13:03] <Stanley00> BluesKaj: I think he know what to do then, he just give an feedback in update-grub, I think.
[13:04] <rigved> unity is no longer working. it is working in all the other accounts on this computer but not in my account. unity --replace gets stuck. can anyone help?
[13:04] <rigved> i was checking ccsm when unity stopped working.
[13:04] <BluesKaj> goshawk, what is w8?
[13:04] <goshawk> 00_header line 233
[13:04] <Stanley00> rigved: did unity --reset do the trick?
[13:04] <goshawk> from
[13:04] <goshawk>   set timeout=-1
[13:04] <goshawk> to
[13:04] <goshawk>   set timeout= 0
[13:04] <rigved> Stanley00: i will try that now.
[13:05] <goshawk> BluesKaj, what i'm asking if not a solution, i already did it. I'm suggesting to change that odd behavior which will make a lot of server stuck without any reason if there is a power cut
[13:06] <goshawk> should i open a bug about that ?
[13:06] <Stanley00> goshawk: power cut may be make some system failler, so stuck in there is not a bad idea
[13:06] <rigved> Stanley00: unity --reset also seems to be stuck. the last line is: "Initializing session options...done"
[13:06] <Stanley00> rigved: just wait then
[13:07] <rigved> Stanley00: even unity --replace seems to be stuck at the same line when i tried it earlier.
[13:07] <rigved> Stanley00: ok. i will wait
[13:07] <Stanley00> rigved: it needs more time to do
[13:07] <BluesKaj> goshawk, also make sure Hidden timeout is =0
[13:08] <Stanley00> rigved: did you upgrade from natty?
[13:08] <rigved> Stanley00: no. fresh install
[13:08] <goshawk> Stanley00, you said right *may* . but if there are no failures why do i get stuck on a grub menu... it's a really stupid behavior
[13:08] <goshawk> expecially on remote servers
[13:09] <Stanley00> goshawk: maybe you are right about that.
[13:10] <Stanley00> rigved: then old home folder?
[13:11] <BluesKaj> goshawk, I'm trying help you , but this is the first time I've heard of this problem...have you tried asking in #grub ?
[13:11] <goshawk> BluesKaj, i'm trying to find the stackoverflow question
[13:11] <goshawk> it's a known thing
[13:11] <goshawk> but nobody addressed until now as a bug
[13:12] <goshawk> BluesKaj, gimme more time to get the stackoverflow question..
[13:12] <goshawk> BluesKaj, http://serverfault.com/questions/269387/how-to-force-grub-to-boot-no-human-input-regardless-previous-booting-failure
[13:13] <goshawk> setting GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT in default/grub.cfg does nothing
[13:13] <goshawk> since that fucking "-1" is hardcoded in 00_header
[13:14] <goshawk> http://paste.pocoo.org/show/469893/
[13:15] <goshawk> BluesKaj, if u want u can try by yourself... reproducing the behavior is really simple... just install ubuntu beta 1 server, cut the power, make it boot ;)
[13:15] <BluesKaj> yeah right :)
[13:16] <goshawk> so now... should i file a bug to give to this problem the proper attention ?
[13:17] <BluesKaj> goshawk, btw , watch the language pls, but we understand you frustration
[13:17] <goshawk> ok sorry
[13:17] <BluesKaj> your
[13:18] <goshawk> BluesKaj, my frustration is that i've 2 server stuck at 1500km away from me due to this thing...
[13:24] <BluesKaj> goshawk, seems hidden time out should be = -1, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1403517
[13:26] <goshawk> i'll try that on my desktop pc...
[13:27] <BluesKaj> goshawk, check this as well, http://blog.computerant.com/2010/03/22/grub-2-bug/
[13:27] <goshawk> BluesKaj, the second one is like i did
[13:27] <goshawk> i just put 0
[13:27] <goshawk> because -1 is manual intervention
[13:27] <goshawk> the ubuntu forum contraddicts it
[13:28] <BluesKaj> bbiab , goot boot into windows for a few mins
[13:28] <goshawk> this is why i told u that i'll test that
[13:30] <rigved> Stanley00: sorry i went away.
[13:31] <Stanley00> rigved: never mind about that ;)
[13:31] <erkan^> hello, don't ubuntu use gnome 2 (or ubuntu classic) ?
[13:31] <goshawk> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/841009
[13:31] <rigved> Stanley00: i had a backup of the old home folder. plus i was using lucid on this. i did not want to go through 10.04 -> 10.10 -> 11.04 -> 11.10
[13:31] <Stanley00> erkan^: ubunu 10.10 and before do
[13:32] <erkan^> yes i know, Stanley00 . but i mean a desktop classic,
[13:32] <rigved> Stanley00: unity --reset is still stuck at: "Initializing session options...done"
[13:32] <erkan^> a classic desktop
[13:32] <rigved> Stanley00: system monitor is showing that the bash process is sleeping.
[13:33] <Stanley00> erkan^: not anymore in oneiric, it's unity 2d
[13:33] <erkan^> ok
[13:34] <Stanley00> rigved: just backup your home dir, and remove all old config, I think old config file cause problem
[13:34] <Stanley00> rigved: or simpler, add a new user then ;)
[13:35] <rigved> Stanley00: ok. but can i create a new admin user and then delete this one?
[13:36] <Stanley00> rigved: if you dont need your old config any more, feel free to delete all your config file
[13:36] <erkan^> what mean "clear" by the menu?
[13:36] <Stanley00> erkan^: I dont get it either :))
[13:36] <rigved> Stanley00: by config, do you mean the .config folder?
[13:36] <erkan^> ow
[13:37] <Stanley00> rigved: all the file/folder begin with the .
[13:38] <Stanley00> rigved: at least .config .compiz* .dbus .gnome* .gconf
[13:43] <rigved> Stanley00: ok. i will do that now. i have already backed up my home folder yesterday.
[13:43] <erkan^> I see that is not very add-ons by Thunderbird
[13:44] <Stanley00> rigved: good luck then ;)
[13:46] <rigved> Stanley00: wow. and like that everything is back. well everything except the window borders. wait i will re-log in. thanks a bunch!
[13:58] <erkan^> I cannot found Sun Java in the Software Centre
[13:58] <Stanley00> erkan^: what's for? just find java instead?
[13:59] <erkan^> i want install for java (www.java.com)
[13:59] <erkan^> and not icedtea, Stanley00
[13:59] <Stanley00> erkan^: do you mean java runtime?
[13:59] <erkan^> yes
[14:00] <Stanley00> erkan^: just a min, I need check that :D
[14:00] <penguin42> normally it takes a little while to catch up for +1's - but I wonder what's going to happen this time; I thought Oracle had done something odd to the license this time
[14:00] <erkan^> ok
[14:00] <IdleOne> install sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin
[14:00] <Stanley00> erkan^: It's already there, OpenJDK is good then,
[14:02] <erkan^> they have not IdleOne
[14:02] <erkan^> ok i will try Stanley00
[14:02] <Stanley00> erkan^: digging more, it's use icetea also =))
[14:03] <IdleOne> you need to enable the Partner repository
[14:03] <IdleOne> !partner
[14:06] <gnomie> erkan^: it probably means you clear the message cache up to that point
[14:07] <gnomie> from gwibber or other
[14:07] <gnomie> in your client
[14:07] <gnomie> or maybe not, i just hit it and nothing obvious happened
[14:07] <erkan^> do you mean "clear", gnomie ?
[14:09] <erkan^> and i see TIME on bar only
[14:10] <gnomie> arent you referring to the 'clear' option at the bottom of the messages applet? the one next to the network-manager one?
[14:10] <erkan^> clear option at the bottom of the messages applet
[14:11] <gnomie> well.. like i said, didn't quite see any obvious thing happen when i clicked ..
[14:12] <gnomie> my speculation failed
[14:12] <gnomie> therefore, i guess its a unsolved mystery
[14:13] <erkan^> I cannot paste --> print screen )-:
[14:13] <erkan^> another can you see this view
[14:16] <erkan^> brb
[14:26] <dan_> hi
[14:26] <Stanley00> hi dan_ ;)
[14:26] <dan_> can i ask here a question about gnome3?
[14:27] <dan_> finally i've got a working gnome-shell with Ubuntu11.10b
[14:27] <dan_> but i can't make extensions working
[14:28] <dan_> i've put them under ~/, under /usr/share/gnome-shell, checked metadata.json.. but nothing.
[14:28] <Stanley00> dan_: I dont know about gnome3, just use unity by default, so please wait for someone else
[14:29] <dan_> o.k.
[14:29] <dan_> maybe it is a bug
[14:30] <gnomie> just want to add unity is a shell for gnome3. fyi
[14:31] <dan_> yes i'm talking about gnome-shell
[14:32] <gnomie> you checked if there is a #gnome3 or other?
[14:33] <dan_> no there isn't
[14:33] <dan_> so nobody tried to install some gnome-shell-extension on ubuntu11.10?
[14:33] <gnomie> it's been done, just not by me
[14:35] <dan_> ok
[14:35] <dan_> i'll search for gnome.org irc :)
[14:35] <dan_> bye
[14:40] <FernandoMiguel> g'afnoon
[14:41] <Stanley00> FernandoMiguel: good evening! ;)
[15:43] <knightstalker> Hey,When I put my headphone in the device,the sound button gets red(muted),but sound is playing,now when I take the headphone out,sound dies,but the button gets white(not muted),I should try to higher the sound and it gets resumed
[15:43] <knightstalker> Thats a bug I think? :P
[15:43] <knightstalker> Wasn't like this on 11.04
[15:43] <penguin42> file it!
[15:44] <knightstalker> ...,I wanted to be sure that its not my device or if I am acting stupid :P
[15:48] <john_G> In 11.10 I can't find any option to set screensavers
[15:49] <lnostdal_> hi guys .. how's kubuntu 11.04 ..? .. just curious, but still need this computer for Actual Work
[15:52] <knightstalker> penguin42,do you have any idea under which project should I file it?
[15:52] <knightstalker> ALSA driver?
[15:52] <penguin42> knightstalker: If you do ubuntu-bug audio it should take you through the process of reporting it
[15:53] <knightstalker> PulseAudio crashed oO
[15:53] <penguin42> knightstalker: It would be best to do that after doing the action that caused it to fail
[15:53] <knightstalker> now I found 2 bugs
[15:54] <knightstalker> penguin42,erm,Its not a point of fail,sound is playing on headphone,My HP reports its muted
[15:54] <knightstalker> while Ubuntu itself says its not mute correctly
[15:54] <penguin42> what do you mean HP reports it's muted - an LED somewhere?
[15:55] <knightstalker> Yeah
[15:55] <knightstalker> an LED which turns red
[15:55] <knightstalker> or white
[15:55] <penguin42> knightstalker: Best to report it anyway, I'd still say against audio (closest thing); if it's just the LED it's not too important, but it's still a bug
[15:55] <knightstalker> Yeah,its not really important,but it behaved correctly before :p
[15:56] <penguin42> ooh a regression :-)
[15:56] <knightstalker> Yeah
[15:56] <popey> how does one enable this new fangled unity-greeter?
[15:56] <penguin42> popey: Install the unity-greeter package
[15:56] <popey> done
[15:56] <popey> anything else?
[15:57] <penguin42> popey:  /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf should have greeter-session=unity-greeter in
[15:58] <popey> hmm, it does. I logged out/in, guess lightdm needs a restart?
[15:59] <popey> yup, that got it
[15:59] <popey> wow, thats pretty :D
[15:59] <penguin42> yeh I actually like it - do you get a caret in the input box, I don't
[16:00] <popey> no
[16:00] <popey> I _really_ hate the drop shadow on the top panel
[16:01] <popey> Super+S makes it stand out because it gets drawn after the screen zooms in
[16:01] <penguin42> super+s ?
[16:06] <BluesKaj> , BBL
[16:19] <popey> is flash broken in 11.10?
[16:21] <jtaylor> no
[16:21] <penguin42> popey: No, but it takes a little hand holding to switch to the multiarch stuff when upgrading
[16:21] <RRRRube> Does anyone here have Calibre installed? Is it working for you?
[16:21] <jtaylor> but installing it can be a bit more complicated depending on if you have a fresh install or a upgrade
[16:21] <popey> ah
[16:22] <popey> what do I need to do?
[16:22] <jtaylor> depends on your problem
[16:22] <popey> its 64-bit and trying to install flashplugin-installer barfs because nspluginwrapper is not installable
[16:23] <jtaylor> do you have multiarch enabled?
[16:23] <popey> i have no idea :D
[16:23] <popey> I installed this a while ago, and just kept dist-upgrading it
[16:23] <jtaylor> then you probably need to enable it
[16:23] <popey> !multiarch
[16:23] <popey> bah
[16:24] <jtaylor> echo foreign-architecture i386 | sudo tee /etc/dpkg/dpkg.cfg.d/multiarch
[16:24] <jtaylor> and update
[16:24] <popey> ta
[16:24]  * penguin42 can see this is going to have interesting effects on scripts that parse the output of dpkg
[16:25] <jtaylor> for example?
[16:25] <jtaylor> I doubt dpkg's output was ever something set in stone
[16:25] <jtaylor> so these scripts are broken by design
[16:26] <penguin42> jtaylor: Well some things might test you had a package installed by doing dpkg -l frob  now they would have to check if you had the right arch installed
[16:26] <penguin42> still, it looks saner than the RPM equivalent where rpm -ql didn't state the architecture
[16:26] <popey> ahh, now I get loads of i386 packages when installing flash
[16:26] <popey> shame
[16:27] <jtaylor> thats correct
[16:27] <penguin42> popey: That's ok - you don't have ia32-libs
[16:27] <popey> thanks for the help
[16:27] <jtaylor> it are still less than before with ia32-libs
[16:27] <popey> heh, true
[16:27] <penguin42> and ia32-libs was horrible
[16:27] <jtaylor> and these libraries actually have support
[16:27] <popey> but still icky 32 bit flash
[16:27] <popey> sorry, still icky flash
[16:27] <jtaylor> ia32-libs only got rare updates on point releases
[16:27] <knightstalker> Flash seems to be working here
[16:28] <knightstalker> Flash was always icky for me :p
[16:28] <popey> yeah
[16:28] <penguin42> enough to play Angry Birds on G+ :-)
[16:28] <popey> well, thanks again for getting this working
[16:28] <knightstalker> Sure
[16:28]  * popey hugs ssd
[16:28] <popey> all done
[16:29] <knightstalker> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/841148
[16:29] <jtaylor> eatmydata > ssd :P
[16:29] <knightstalker> Is that correctly filed?
[16:29] <popey> backups ftw
[16:31] <Ian_Corne> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[16:31] <Ian_Corne> where can I find these broken packages?
[16:31] <Ian_Corne> synaptic doesn't show them
[16:32] <penguin42> knightstalker: Hmm - filing against Ubuntu doesn't really get very far; it's also going to need some of the information ubuntu-bug should have collected; can you add the output of dmesg for a start
[16:34] <knightstalker> penguin42,It filled against it when I told launchpad I didn't know against which thing I should've been applied for.ubuntu-bug immediately said that PulseAudio crashed,should I put that in the bug report?okay,I will tail dmesg as well
[16:34] <penguin42> knightstalker: Hang on
[16:35] <penguin42> knightstalker: Can you run   apport-collect 841148
[16:36] <knightstalker> sure
[16:38] <knightstalker> lol
[16:38] <knightstalker> apport spammed the bug report
[16:38] <penguin42> yep it should - it will put all the logs on it
[16:39] <knightstalker> Thanks a lot for the tip =)
[16:39] <penguin42> no problem
[16:49] <FernandoMiguel> gnome power manager broken :\
[16:50] <FernandoMiguel> and no more option to change iot
[16:52] <jtaylor> yey something screwed up my X ._.
[17:13] <u-foka> Hy! I have a thinkpad t61.. I installed 11.10 beta and upgraded the system, then tryed the touchpad toggle key (Fn+F8). Then ubuntu displayed a message that the touchpad is now ENABLED and the touchpad refuses to work since then any time I push the hotkey, even after a reboot, or cold boot... The touchpad works on the login screen, and in the guest session, when I disable it in the guest session it works again after logout... where can
[17:13] <u-foka> I re-enable the touchpad for my login??
[17:13] <dupondje> u-foka: its a bug
[17:14] <dupondje> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-settings-daemon/+bug/816673
[17:15] <Milos_SD> Hello
[17:15] <Milos_SD> I need a little help with Unity :)
[17:16] <u-foka> dupondje, Thanks!
[17:16] <Milos_SD> I installed kubuntu-desktop so I can have kde too, but now my hard drivers that are in unity launcher opet in gwenview, not nautilus
[17:16] <Milos_SD> :S
[17:39] <Ian_Corne> $ banshee
[17:39] <Ian_Corne> [Info  19:39:34.995] Running Banshee 2.1.3: [Ubuntu oneiric (development branch) (linux-gnu, x86_64) @ 2011-08-25 18:47:06 UTC]Bus error (core dumped)
[17:39] <Ian_Corne> yikes?
[17:40] <penguin42> bug!
[17:40] <Ian_Corne>  reading directory /usr/share/apport/symptoms: Input/output error
[17:41] <penguin42> oh that's not good - dmesg?
[17:41] <Ian_Corne> $ dmesg
[17:41] <Ian_Corne> bash: /bin/dmesg: Input/output error
[17:41] <Ian_Corne> oho
[17:41] <Ian_Corne> that is indeed very bad
[17:41] <penguin42> Ian_Corne: I hope you had a good relationship with your hard drive, for I fear it's about at it's end
[17:44] <FernandoMiguel> Ian_Corne: pidgin CD all the time here
[17:44] <FernandoMiguel> I have like 5 diff popup of diff apps crashing
[17:44] <FernandoMiguel> reported 2
[17:44] <FernandoMiguel> the others didn't even bother :\
[17:46] <Ian_Corne> penguin42: err
[17:46] <Ian_Corne> it's fixed now
[17:46] <Ian_Corne> had to disconnect the power tho
[17:46] <Ian_Corne> hard reset didn't work
[17:46] <penguin42> Ian_Corne: Hmmmm
[17:47] <penguin42> Ian_Corne: Worth checking --show-info /dev/sda to see what it thinks of it
[17:47] <Ian_Corne> what's --show-info an argument of?
[17:47] <Ian_Corne> fsck?
[17:47] <penguin42> Ian_Corne: udisks
[17:48] <Ian_Corne>  reallocated-sector-count     99| 99| 10   good    25 sectors  Pre-fail Online
[17:48] <Ian_Corne> it's collored red
[17:48] <Ian_Corne> what's that tool again, which has S.M.A.R.T warnings?
[17:49] <penguin42> Ian_Corne: smartctl -a
[17:49] <penguin42> Ian_Corne: I think it's the same output though
[17:49] <penguin42> if you give me the output of smartctl -a /dev/sda via pastebin I'll see what I make of it
[17:50] <Ian_Corne> http://paste.ubuntu.com/681994/
[17:53] <FernandoMiguel> hihi
[17:53] <FernandoMiguel> so many pre-fail
[17:53] <Ian_Corne> is that the stage they're in, or the type of error?
[17:53] <FernandoMiguel> type of
[17:53] <FernandoMiguel> mine says the same
[17:54] <Ian_Corne> fiew :D
[17:54] <FernandoMiguel> http://paste.ubuntu.com/682002/
[17:54] <FernandoMiguel> on SSD
[17:54] <Ian_Corne> but i see value, which is almost always higher/same as worst
[17:55] <Ian_Corne> but i think raw value is the real current valuer?
[17:55] <FernandoMiguel> 195 Hardware_ECC_Recovered  0x001a   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       284556
[17:55] <FernandoMiguel> but that doesn't sound good
[17:55] <Ian_Corne> idd
[17:55] <Ian_Corne> well, it still works :p
[17:56] <FernandoMiguel> run a long test
[17:58] <Ian_Corne> ok it's running
[18:00] <Ian_Corne> how do i know when it is done?
[18:03] <FernandoMiguel> you don't
[18:03] <Ian_Corne> ok :D
[18:03] <penguin42> Ian_Corne: That looks OK to me, there is nothing in the SMART error log
[18:03] <FernandoMiguel> you check the status
[18:03] <FernandoMiguel> there's an option to email you
[18:03] <BluesKaj> hmm, upgrading KDE 4.7.1 certainly didn't fix kwin , if anything , it's worse :(  Wallpaper is the size of a postage stamp , and the window sizing is still broken
[18:04] <penguin42> Ian_Corne: Keep an eye on the reallocated sector count - the fact that it's none-0 is not good, but not necessarily fatal unless it starts walking up
[18:04] <penguin42> BluesKaj: What's up with the window sizing?
[18:06] <Ian_Corne> I know i've had "issues" with this drive before
[18:07] <Ian_Corne> and SMART started popping up
[18:07] <Ian_Corne> but it went away :p
[18:07] <Ian_Corne> I backup my entire home dir with deja-dup now to another drive
[18:07] <FernandoMiguel> I wouldn't trust that then
[18:07] <FernandoMiguel> but its your call
[18:07] <Ian_Corne> and have important projects stored via svn
[18:07] <penguin42> FernandoMiguel: I've got a fairly large hardware-ecc-recovered value as well, but no reallocated sectors - I don't think that's too unusual
[18:07] <Ian_Corne> so i'll be fine for now, but when I've got time, i'll buy a new drive, wanted one nayways
[18:08] <FernandoMiguel> get SSD
[18:08] <Ian_Corne> I've got an ssd in my laptop
[18:08] <BluesKaj> penguin42, windows don't remember their size settings in desktop settings> advanced, unless it's maximize.and not all apps will hold that setting either.
[18:08] <Ian_Corne> Don't really need one on my desktop, but if I have the money, i might consider it
[18:10] <penguin42> BluesKaj: Ah I've never used that
[18:15] <Ian_Corne> hehe
[18:16] <Ian_Corne> whenever I go to a site now in chrome i get:
[18:17] <Ian_Corne> http://imgur.com/Ghaev
[18:17] <Ian_Corne> ctrl+r fixes that tho :)
[18:18] <Ian_Corne> hrmf, i cleared .cache/google-chrome/stuff but it still errors
[18:20] <Ian_Corne> used the chrome function, maybe that'll help :)
[18:28] <Varth> Is there any possible way to change the font sizes in the new beta? The default sizes look absolutely awful on my netbook.
[18:30] <ali1234> i'm testing the hybrid iso install method (dd iso to usb stick)
[18:30] <Ian_Corne> I think i've read that question 20 times already, and I still don't know the answer Varth
[18:30] <robin0800> Varth, use gnome tweak tool
[18:30] <ali1234> and by default the installer wants to install on the usb stick i booted from
[18:30] <Ian_Corne> and was gonna check that robin0800 :p
[18:30] <Ian_Corne> yes there's a section "fonts"
[18:32] <ali1234> wow the installer wants me to take a picture for the login screen
[18:32] <ali1234> that's cool and all, but, no thanks
[18:33] <Ian_Corne> hehe
[18:33] <Ian_Corne> is it mandatory?
[18:33] <Ian_Corne> I think not
[18:33]  * BluesKaj is going to reinstall with the beta cd/dvd daily
[18:33] <ali1234> no
[18:33] <Varth> robin0800: Thanks. I'll give it a shot. I'm installing it now.
[18:33] <ali1234> you can select a default icon instead
[18:35] <Ian_Corne> ok
[18:37] <Varth> robin0800: Worked just fine for me. Thanks.
[18:41] <penguin42> Ian_Corne: Anything in dmesg?
[18:41] <Ian_Corne> still not
[18:41] <Ian_Corne> That's good for me
[18:42] <Ian_Corne> bad for w/e caused this
[18:42] <Ian_Corne> and nothing could be saved to disk so no logfiles
[18:42] <penguin42> erm it's not full is it?
[18:43] <Ian_Corne> no
[18:43] <Ian_Corne> and that wouldn't explain the not found part
[18:43] <penguin42> encrypted home dir?
[18:43] <Ian_Corne> nope
[18:43] <penguin42> hmph
[18:43] <Ian_Corne> but that wouldn't explain bash: /bin/dmesg: Input/output error
[18:44] <penguin42> that really shouldn't happen
[18:44] <Ian_Corne> yeah I know :)
[18:44] <Ian_Corne> maybe the power supply to the drive just died?
[18:45] <Ian_Corne> or something
[18:45] <penguin42> nod
[18:45] <penguin42> worth opening it up and pushing all the cabling home
[18:49] <FernandoMiguel> If you guys had me on Plus before they suspended my account, please add me back! thanks
[18:49] <FernandoMiguel> http://l.FernandoMiguel.net/Plus
[19:04] <Barridus> howdy all, is fuse-exfat going to be included with the next ubuntu release?
[19:05] <Barridus> or exfat-fuse, i forget
[19:08] <ali1234> hmm well the new login screen does look nice... except for the purple
[19:10] <ali1234> why does the dash no longer fit on a standard netbook screen?
[19:10] <robin0800> ali1234, omgubuntu say you can chance that
[19:10] <ali1234> which?
[19:20] <Barridus> will ocelot support exfat?
[19:45] <matrixa1> http://apcmag.com/how-to-enable-exfat-in-ubuntu.htm
[19:56] <Daekdroom> Is anyone else getting constant error notifications?
[19:57] <dupondje> weird shit with my system, i'm unable to add printers etc :s
[19:57] <dupondje> all grayed out :s
[19:57] <qzio> Daekdroom: yeah sort of... it's like... random.
[19:57] <Daekdroom> qzio, whenever I click to not report it, a new window prompts up
[19:58] <Daekdroom> and choosing to report it does nothing either
[19:59] <qzio> Daekdroom: oh, I don't have that exact problem. I just get those report a crash thingies alot.
[19:59] <Daekdroom> They never cease in here.
[20:02] <qzio> btw, anyone knows if it is possible to change the default monospace font somewhere? the apperance setting is kind of sparse, I can only change the wallpaper...
[20:03] <trism> qzio: you can with gnome-tweak-tool
[20:04] <dupondje> mmm everything in the gnome-control-panel is grayed out it seems :
[20:04] <dupondje> any idea what could be wrong ?
[20:06] <robin0800> dupondje, not sure what you mean perhaps its not supported in 11.10
[20:06] <trism> qzio: or gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.interface monospace-font-name "Fontname Size"
[20:07] <dupondje> robin0800: well like for example I can't add new users, or add a printer, or a connection ...
[20:07] <dupondje> seems to be grayed out for some reason
[20:08] <robin0800> dupondje, log out and back in perhaps
[20:09] <dupondje> nah doesn't solve it
[20:11] <dupondje> guess i'm missing some group memberships
[20:12] <basso> good evenings folks
[20:12] <basso> my gnome-shell looks ugly
[20:12] <basso> and i have no themes to select
[20:12] <basso> they are gone :O
[20:12] <basso> anyone found a fix?
[20:13] <qzio> trism: Ill try that, thanks.
[20:13] <qzio> and while I'm at it, Is it possible to disable the alt short cut? I want my alt back.
[20:13] <qzio> luckeyly that peice of shit crashed, so I'm currenlty able to use my alt :)
[20:14] <robin0800> basso, gnome-tweak-tool
[20:14] <basso> robin0800: in gnome-tweak-tool, i cant select any themes, because its greyed out
[20:14] <qzio> and where should I got and complain about that? (picking alt as a global hot key which disables it -everywhere- else)
[20:15] <robin0800> basso, sounds like a bug to me
[20:17] <robin0800> basso, try installing gnome-standard-themes but it should be installed by default in b1
[20:17] <basso> its installed
[20:17] <basso> even tried reinstalling it
[20:17] <basso> no work
[20:25] <basso> my bummer
[20:26] <basso> wasnt shell theme i needed to change, had to change window theme en relog
[20:26] <basso> :)
[21:38] <Barridus> hey guys does ocelot support exfat?
[21:45] <Ian_Corne> 21:20:33 < Barridus> will ocelot support exfat?
[21:45] <Ian_Corne> 21:45:36 < matrixa1> http://apcmag.com/how-to-enable-exfat-in-ubuntu.htm
[21:56] <Barridus> yeah i read that before, i meant out of box without having to type command line commands Ian_Corne
[21:56] <Barridus> like as transparently as other flash media file systems such as fat32 or ntfs
[21:58] <Ian_Corne> oh :)
[21:59] <Ian_Corne> I don't know
[22:04] <dupondje> Some small question.
[22:04] <dupondje> Does the primary group always needs to be the same as the username ?
[22:04] <dupondje> I changed my primary group to 'users' an everything gets broken it seems
[22:22] <lenios> dupondje, there shouldn't be any problem
[22:22] <lenios> what got broken?
[22:24] <dupondje> lenios: everything in gnome-control-panel :)
[22:25] <dupondje> added myself to my own group again
[22:25] <Ian_Corne> dupondje: well, if you do it after your home directory gets created
[22:25] <dupondje> and it worked
[22:25] <dupondje> weird :)
[22:25] <Ian_Corne> it could mean trouble yes
[22:26] <dupondje> why ? everything in my home dir is jean-louis:users
[22:26] <Ian_Corne> well
[22:26] <dupondje> had to add group jean-louis again, and add myself to the group jean-louis again to get control panel working again
[22:26] <Ian_Corne> did you reboot?
[22:26] <dupondje> I did :)
[22:26] <Ian_Corne>  /tmp also has your files
[22:26] <Ian_Corne> oh
[22:26] <Ian_Corne> hmm
[22:27] <Ian_Corne> dupondje: you could try by adding a new user
[22:27] <dupondje> primary group is still users now btw
[22:27] <Ian_Corne> changing it's group
[22:27] <Ian_Corne> then login
[22:27] <dupondje> and jean-louis just in my group list, and its working
[22:27] <dupondje> but still, it shouldn't be the case ...
[22:27] <Ian_Corne> yes that's because files are yours to change again
[22:28] <Ian_Corne> so change it's group before logging in
[22:28] <Ian_Corne> it should work then.
[22:29] <dupondje> gonne try that laer
[22:29] <dupondje> later*
[22:29] <Ian_Corne> k
[22:31] <Vanillalite> Hi all!
[22:31] <Ian_Corne> Hello!
[22:33] <Vanillalite> okay I get a weird error when I run sudo apt-get update
[22:33] <Vanillalite> it asks for my pw fetches the packages then it ends with
[22:33] <Vanillalite> W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net oneiric Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available:
[22:34] <Vanillalite> any idea why this is messed up to begin with and what I should do as a fix?
[22:34] <tardis> !gpg-err
[22:34] <tardis> !gpgerr
[22:34] <tardis> because you didn't use add-apt-repository or you did and the keyserver was broken at the time
[22:36] <Vanillalite> hmmm ok
[22:36] <ActionParsnip> quiet tonight
[22:36] <Vanillalite> how can I tell what repository it is?
[22:37] <Vanillalite> btw after the "the public key is not available"
[22:37] <Vanillalite> it gives me NO_PUBKEY
[22:37] <Vanillalite> then a keystring
[22:37] <ActionParsnip> Vanillalite: if you give the output of:  sudo apt-get update I may be able to advise. I am guessing you are missing a GPG key from a repo
[22:38] <ActionParsnip> Vanillalite: what is the key string?
[22:38] <Vanillalite> NO_PUBKEY EC2FD9F10377B4EF
[22:39] <ActionParsnip> Vanillalite: sudo apt-key adv --recv-key --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com EC2FD9F10377B4EF
[22:39] <Vanillalite> k
[22:40] <Vanillalite> alrighty then I do sudo apt-get update no errors now thank you guys and gals :D
[22:40] <Vanillalite> I am fixed :D
[22:40] <ActionParsnip> yay
[22:41] <Vanillalite> any reason why it would be messed up to begin with?
[22:41] <ActionParsnip> if you use the add-apt-repository command, it sorts all that for you
[22:41] <ActionParsnip> rather than editting sources.list
[22:42] <Vanillalite> normally I honestly just add PPAs in properties in the software center and don't use the terminal
[22:43] <ActionParsnip> Vanillalite: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:pmjdebruijn/chocolate-doom-release      for example
[22:44] <Vanillalite> yeah I gotcha I guess I'll use the terminal from now on :P
[22:44] <Vanillalite> I hadn't ever had problems the other way so I just always did that lol
[22:44] <ActionParsnip> Vanillalite: saves having to mess around waiting for software centre to run, just straight to business
[22:44] <Vanillalite> my cli knowledge is low but I'm trying to learn lol
[22:45] <ActionParsnip> Vanillalite: younow have an extra bullet on your belt
[22:45] <Vanillalite> thanks people!
[22:45] <ActionParsnip> word
[23:17] <mongy> not played any doom for a while, last time I did was actual doom, so what exactly is choco doom?
[23:17] <mongy> I know its that germany thing
[23:17] <mongy> but, in terms of gameplay, whats the difference