[05:00] <Fudge> nite AlanBell 
[22:08] <paul_h1> hi, anyone about? I tried the first beta of Oneric today. when the CD stopped spinning I pressed ctrl+s and Orca started. chose the Try It option and gnome started and I heard "Welcome to Orca, Desktop" then gnome locked up completely. is it not working yet?
[22:10] <AlanBell> paul_h1: it is a bit of a mess still
[22:10] <AlanBell> I didn't know the magic keypress was ctrl+s, I will give that a go
[22:12] <AlanBell> at the moment there are multiple problems including the global menus not being keyboard accessible (for anyone)
[22:14] <paul_h1> AlanBell: I switched to the at-spi2 packages on my installed natty system and have the same problem. gnome locks up as soon as orca starts. but on the installed system I can switch to a text console and restart gdm which gets everything working
[22:15] <AlanBell> I believe there is some work being done to improve this and Beta 2 should be less broken
[22:17] <paul_h1> hopefully :-) on the + side the keystroke to start orca at the try it/install screen is working and brltty is being started automatically now for my usb display
[22:25] <AlanBell> yeah, quite pleased that the "start orca" sequence no longer involves hitting space when you see a symbol on screen before it goes away!
[22:26] <paul_h1> me too. could never get that working