[04:59] <Fudge> does themuso still come in here?
[08:26] <head_victim> Fudge: not since July according to my logs
[08:27] <head_victim> That may be this year or previous years though, apparently my logs don't timestamp the year :/
[08:28] <head_victim> sagaci: I have xchat log files for the channel if that helps your cause
[08:33] <sagaci> kinda
[08:33] <sagaci> did you submit translations for upstream xchat
[08:34] <head_victim> Yes, both to the person responsible and the enGB team leader and still no response a month or two on
[08:38] <head_victim> Interesting my Freenode-#ubuntu-au.log file is 32MB in size and has updated to 30/08/11, my NETWORK-#ubuntu-au.log file is 100KB and has been updated until now. The NETWORK might be a buffer I guess.
[08:49] <adhoc> head_victim: maybe its rotated like your log files
[08:49] <head_victim> adhoc: quite possible
[08:49] <adhoc> perhaps when it hits a size limit?
[08:49] <head_victim> Nah I think it sits the last X amount in a temp file for scrollback or something
[08:50] <adhoc> which irc client are you using?
[08:50] <head_victim> xchat2
[08:51] <head_victim> I have scrollback to 21/07 currently so that's out the window
[08:52] <head_victim> Hmm apparently I DC'd on the 30/08 so that might ahve something to do with it, it's now not reconised the network.
[08:52] <Fudge> tks
[08:53] <head_victim> Fudge: thank you, now I know my logging fails so I've fixed it :)
[08:53] <head_victim> I thought it took the timestamp as it's written on the screen. Apparently not.
[08:53] <head_victim> For reference
[08:53] <head_victim> [Sun 04 Sep - 18:53:36] <head_victim> I thought it took the timestamp as it's written on the screen. Apparently not.
[08:54] <head_victim> That's what I was sort of expecting in my logs :/
[08:54] <head_victim> Oh that still doesn't have year either, maybe I fail all around
[09:06] <Fudge> how so 
[09:06] <Fudge> oh right
[09:06] <Fudge> mm
[09:07] <Fudge> damn
[09:09] <Fudge> wow having only 40 cahns in irssi is cool as
[09:09] <head_victim> My goal is to set up an irssi proxy and connect via xchat still
[09:09] <head_victim> I only have around 25 channels across 2 networks
[09:10] <bwright> Hallo
[09:10] <Fudge> its very easy to do actually
[09:10] <Fudge> do u need help
[09:10] <Fudge> bwright  hi
[09:10] <head_victim> Fudge: more that I haven't had time to set up the server how I want i first
[09:11] <bwright> I run my fb chat through irc.
[09:11] <head_victim> I'm teaching myself system admin at home working through a book
[09:11] <Fudge> me too bitlbee
[09:11] <bwright> :)
[09:11] <Fudge> what server head_victim 
[09:11] <head_victim> I only have a FB account so I can access the UbuntuAU one
[09:11] <Fudge> its about 5 commands to irssi
[09:11] <head_victim> Fudge: home server :)
[09:11] <Fudge> static ip dns updating tool and a ups, 
[09:11] <Fudge> dont turn it off lol
[09:11] <head_victim> I'm a typical "end user" that has found it interesting to play around.
[09:11] <bwright> I just found out how to convert values into types.
[09:11] <Fudge> sweet mate
[09:11] <bwright> it is a bit odd.
[09:12] <Fudge> what is?
[09:12] <bwright> template <int A> struct Int2Type { enum { val = A }; };
[09:12] <Fudge> oh ove rmy head
[09:12] <head_victim> I'm trying to set it up as a DNS and file server for the network as it's primary job. Secondary will be irssi and stuff.
[09:12] <Fudge> oh i didnt see this
[09:12] <Fudge> < bwright> I just found out how to convert values into types.
[09:13] <bwright> I am reading Modern C++ Design.
[09:13] <Fudge> i dont understand why ppl want dns servers these days
[09:13] <Fudge> nameserver 4.2.2.1 nameserver 4.2.2.4
[09:13] <bwright> The new C++ standard was released yesterday.
[09:13] <Fudge> cant go wrong with google
[09:13] <bwright> Trying to amp myself up to read it.
[09:13] <Fudge> bwright  cool man
[09:13] <adhoc> Fudge: the main reason is to learn, surely ;)
[09:13] <head_victim> Fudge: easier than setting up an conf on each system for the home network.
[09:14] <Fudge> to do what though?
[09:14] <adhoc> Fudge: then, of course isreducing your dependency on third party services you have no control over
[09:14] <head_victim> Basically I have 15 devices with static ip's that I want to connect via hostnames.
[09:14] <Fudge> your modem doesnt have a domain feature?
[09:14] <Fudge> so hostname of machine. domainname in your mdoem.
[09:14] <head_victim> Probably does, (it's a Netgear FVS336G) but more interested in playing with a linux server
[09:15] <Fudge> cool
[09:15] <Fudge> well the irssi proxy is very simple, if u have trouble id be happy to tell u how to do it when you are ready
[09:15] <head_victim> Fudge: thanks mate, will definitely ping you when the time comes.
[09:15] <Fudge> or if u wanna setup ircd and stuff im pretty good with those
[09:15] <Fudge> np 
[09:16] <head_victim> Nah not really interested in a whole ircd
[09:16] <head_victim> Unless someone loans me some huge bandwidth I don't really have a need for it
[09:17] <Fudge> u don tneed it on ircds really
[09:17] <Fudge> but np
[09:17] <Fudge> i did just get sent an email yest on setting up a dns server or was it dhcp
[09:18] <Fudge> oh it was dhcp and firewall
[09:19] <Fudge> thats no good to anyone who wants to run a dhcp serve rlol
[09:20] <head_victim> I have my router set up to dhcp a specific range so the rest i can use for static
[09:21] <adhoc> head_victim: do you have your linux server between your static network and your adsl modem?
[09:21] <head_victim> My setup is cable modem > router > switch > devices
[09:21] <adhoc> so the router is a linux box?
[09:22] <head_victim> Nah, netgear blue box
[09:22] <head_victim> But, the goal is to learn enough that my next router is a linux machine.
[09:22] <adhoc> ah, so the cable modemhas one NIC?
[09:22] <head_victim> Yep, but the router has dual wan so I ahve the wireless broadband plugged in as failover
[09:23] <adhoc> ok, at home my config varies a fair bit depending on the time of year, ie less servers in summer
[09:23] <Fudge> dont you ahve to pay for the wireless every month though
[09:23] <adhoc> but i have a linux server with three network devices in it
[09:23] <head_victim> Hah fair call, the main reason I'm doing all this is so I can shut down what was 5 computers running 24/7
[09:23] <head_victim> It's down to 3 at the moment.
[09:23] <Fudge> what is your server, hardware wise
[09:23] <head_victim> I pay 10$ a month for my wireless, I just up it when I actually want to use it
[09:24] <head_victim> Fudge: desktop pc parts, 2.33 quad core with 8gb ram and for storage 4x 1tb drives in raid 10
[09:24] <Fudge> im trying to decide it this HT 3gig p4 2gig ram is worthwile to use for my hackintosh, its an i865 chipset
[09:24] <head_victim> I used a 3.2 prescott as a desktop with Lubuntu on it.
[09:25] <Fudge> nice server, u will run out of storage real fast though
[09:25] <head_victim> Yes and no, I'm only putting stuff on there I can't recover online.
[09:25] <head_victim> I have external drives for full Ubuntu mirrors (release and archive)
[09:25] <Fudge> mine has 2tb sata jsut a 2.9 socket 775 what ever they re called, core 2 duo or something but is asus mini itx thing so low power consumption
[09:25] <head_victim> And other bits and bobs that I can easily replace.
[09:25] <Fudge> wow
[09:25] <Fudge> whats ur internet speed there
[09:26] <Fudge> i got 20/1
[09:26] <head_victim> 4.2MB/s to aarnet 
[09:26] <head_victim> So around high 30s mb/s
[09:26] <Fudge> wow
[09:26] <head_victim> It's been slowing down though, I'm only getting 2.4 ish MB/s these days
[09:26] <Fudge> nice
[09:27] <head_victim> Will one day poke around to see if that's Telsra or AARNet's doing
[09:27]  * Fudge shrugs
[09:27] <Fudge> bbs putting another drive in thi sbox
[09:30] <head_victim> NW
[09:30] <head_victim> bwright: looks like a lot of reading 
[09:30] <Fudge> mm
[09:30] <Fudge> back
[12:32] <sagaci> head_victim, nah it's ok, I just wget the logs for the past 6 months
[12:32] <head_victim> Ok, if you need more I have some going back quite some time it seems.
[12:54] <sagaci> head_victim, so I wonder what/if there is a process to enable translation on launchpad, still talking about xchat
[12:55] <head_victim> Not sure, I think it has to come from the project themselves.
[12:59] <sagaci> so you do hold much hope getting your translations reviewed/approved through the upstream?
[12:59] <head_victim> Not sure, my next hope is to bug the xchat people directly.
[13:00] <head_victim> Or I'll ask on the translation mailing list if I get no luck from xchat
[13:03] <head_victim> See if we can push the issue a bit
[14:46] <Trent> Test
[14:47] <sagaci> it works!
[14:47] <Trent> xD thanks
[14:48] <Trent> what is "LoCo"
[14:49] <sagaci> Local Community
[14:50] <Trent> ahhh makes sense
[14:51] <Trent> It's kind of implied though :)
[14:51] <Trent> Whats everyone up too at this late hour anyway ?
[14:51] <sagaci> most are probably just idling
[14:55] <Trent> ahh fair enough, is it safe to assume most of the people in here are programmers of some kind ?
[14:56] <sagaci> umm, not necessarily.. I'd probably only assume that most to all know how to use a terminal for basic commands
[14:56] <sagaci> some might be super leet hackers but some are here just because they have an interest in ubuntu
[14:57] <Trent> mm thats fair enough
[14:59] <Trent> And where do you fit in amongst it all, are you the super leet hacker you were referring too ? :P
[15:01] <sagaci> no, I use the terminal but I use the desktop applications much more
[15:03] <Trent> hehe, i try to use terminal whenever i can
[15:04] <sagaci> do you use ubuntu
[15:04] <Trent> this heap of junk computer is already running with xfce desktop, but software centre and some other apps just drain it completely, atleast the terminal uses little resources
[15:04] <Trent> Xubuntu
[15:04] <sagaci> have you tried lubuntu
[15:04] <Trent> i have ubuntu on my laptop though, but i use win7 on that most of the time
[15:04] <Trent> lubuntu :S ??
[15:05] <Trent> kubuntu ?
[15:05] <sagaci> ubuntu with the lxde desktop
[15:05] <Trent> lxde
[15:05] <Trent> never heard of it to be honest
[15:05] <sagaci> I have win7 dual booted too, I used to use windows more but you get used to ubuntu so much that windows is the pain that it is to boot into
[15:07] <sagaci> what specific win7 software keeps you using it?
[15:09] <Trent> some video converting software, digsby messenger, i do some game server scripting and i don't want to be bothered setting up the compiler in wine (just my lazyness)
[15:09] <sagaci> ah fair enough
[15:10] <Trent> Not much to be honest, windows is just familiar
[15:10] <sagaci> yeah, I know the feeling
[15:10] <Trent> the search from start menu is smooth though, i use it often
[15:11] <sagaci> it's hard to switch out of a workflow you have going
[15:13] <Trent> Yea, even though perfectly capable alternatives are available, it doesn't have anything i need which windows can't offer right now, off the top of my head