| valorie | sorry I'm late, darkwing duck | 17:14 |
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| valorie | hmmm, where is he? | 17:14 |
| valorie | oh, i'm early and can't do basic math, I guess..... | 17:33 |
| valorie | greetings DarkwingDuck! | 18:03 |
| DarkwingDuck | Hello everyone! | 18:06 |
| DarkwingDuck | Sorry I'm a couple of minutes late. :) | 18:07 |
| DarkwingDuck | How many are here for the Doc Jam? | 18:07 |
| jjesse | me :) | 18:07 |
| DarkwingDuck | Okay, :D | 18:08 |
| DarkwingDuck | valorie, ping | 18:08 |
| DarkwingDuck | jjesse, did you hvae a chance to read over https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Documentation ? | 18:09 |
| jjesse | yes but can't remember it | 18:09 |
| DarkwingDuck | :) | 18:09 |
| jjesse | i'll be more here once my son goes to bed for his nap :) | 18:09 |
| valorie | I have Kubuntu-docs downloaded already, let me update | 18:09 |
| valorie | just in case | 18:09 |
| DarkwingDuck | valorie, that last link I just gave to jjesse is a neat little handbook. | 18:10 |
| DarkwingDuck | Here is work items list https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-o-kubuntu-documentation-review | 18:10 |
| DarkwingDuck | If you scroll down you will see the Documents Work Items. | 18:10 |
| DarkwingDuck | Change Kubuntu.Documentation to your LP name | 18:11 |
| valorie | $ bzr update | 18:11 |
| valorie | Tree is up to date at revision 222 of branch /home/valorie/kubuntu_bzr/kubuntu-docs | 18:11 |
| DarkwingDuck | and the TODO to INPROGRESS | 18:11 |
| valorie | :-) | 18:11 |
| DarkwingDuck | Also, if you are using Kate to edit the docs... There is one change you need to make to kate | 18:12 |
| valorie | half a sec | 18:13 |
| DarkwingDuck | Settings > Configure | 18:13 |
| DarkwingDuck | Open/Save | 18:13 |
| DarkwingDuck | Under the Advanced tab under 'Backup on Save' uncheck local files | 18:13 |
| valorie | done | 18:17 |
| DarkwingDuck | Woot. | 18:17 |
| DarkwingDuck | valorie, take a few moments to look at this. https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Documentation | 18:18 |
| DarkwingDuck | I'm hoping it will help with the docs. | 18:18 |
| valorie | I'm not sure what you mean by "Change Kubuntu.Documentation to your LP name" - where? | 18:18 |
| DarkwingDuck | Here | 18:19 |
| DarkwingDuck | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-o-kubuntu-documentation-review | 18:19 |
| DarkwingDuck | Scroll down | 18:19 |
| DarkwingDuck | In the whiteboard. | 18:19 |
| valorie | I'm not seeing the whiteboard | 18:20 |
| valorie | Dependency Tree, with the diagram | 18:20 |
| valorie | then Nearby | 18:20 |
| valorie | and I am logged in | 18:21 |
| DarkwingDuck | Up from the dependency | 18:21 |
| valorie | ok, see it | 18:21 |
| valorie | alrighty, there are a load of kubuntu.documentation items in the todo | 18:23 |
| valorie | pick one? | 18:23 |
| DarkwingDuck | What ever one you want to do yes. | 18:24 |
| valorie | ok, the liveCD is on top, so I'll do that | 18:26 |
| jjesse | yay for merges :) | 18:27 |
| valorie | so in Kate, I open that bit? | 18:28 |
| valorie | hmmm, that topic I don't see in /docs | 18:30 |
| DarkwingDuck | It's not, I'll take that one. :) | 18:30 |
| valorie | ok | 18:30 |
| DarkwingDuck | It's changeing the live CD... Sorry. | 18:30 |
| valorie | I'll do about, then | 18:31 |
| valorie | so, work on C, or po ? | 18:32 |
| jjesse | C | 18:32 |
| jjesse | po is the translation portion | 18:32 |
| DarkwingDuck | This is why I need more then one monitor... | 18:32 |
| * DarkwingDuck explains it to the wife. :P | 18:32 | |
| BarkingFish | Afternoodles everyone. I'm looking to get some docs done for Subtitle Editor, it doesn't appear that there is any, and the prog needs some explanation. I just need something easier to write the docs in, and some advice on how to actually get them to work :) | 18:35 |
| DarkwingDuck | BarkingFish, Just general how to docs? | 18:36 |
| BarkingFish | sort of, yes | 18:37 |
| BarkingFish | I started making one for Subtitle Editor, but it was so long winded, and when I tried to get it to work, it moaned about an index being missing or something | 18:37 |
| valorie | so DarkwingDuck, can I change something like "utilize" to "use"? | 18:39 |
| valorie | because utilize is one fugly word | 18:39 |
| DarkwingDuck | Yup. | 18:40 |
| DarkwingDuck | any changes like that to make things flow better is good. | 18:41 |
| DarkwingDuck | It also makes translations simplier. | 18:44 |
| DarkwingDuck | valorie, What one are you working on? | 18:44 |
| valorie | about | 18:47 |
| valorie | should anything be added about unity? | 18:47 |
| DarkwingDuck | No, Unity doesn't effect Kubuntu/KDE at all. | 18:47 |
| valorie | I'm near the end of the doc and have made a couple of small changes | 18:47 |
| valorie | To install &kubuntu;'s Plasma Desktop, the | 18:48 |
| valorie | <application>kubuntu-desktop</application> package must be installed. To install | 18:48 |
| valorie | &ubuntu;'s &gnome; desktop, the <application>ubuntu-desktop</application> | 18:48 |
| valorie | package is required. | 18:48 |
| valorie | is that still true then? | 18:48 |
| valorie | that one can still install Gnome | 18:48 |
| valorie | not Unity by default? | 18:48 |
| DarkwingDuck | Yes. | 18:49 |
| valorie | because this is sounding a bit dated to me | 18:49 |
| valorie | no mention of Unity at all | 18:49 |
| DarkwingDuck | You can add that. | 18:49 |
| valorie | hmmm, I will have to think, then | 18:49 |
| valorie | ! | 18:49 |
| valorie | moar coffee needed | 18:50 |
| DarkwingDuck | valorie, add your name to the whiteboard on all the topics you want to take. jjesse you as well. | 18:54 |
| valorie | let's see how this one goes | 18:55 |
| DarkwingDuck | :) | 18:55 |
| valorie | first.... | 18:55 |
| DarkwingDuck | valorie, any questions? | 18:58 |
| valorie | I'm just wondering how much mention of Unity is wise | 18:59 |
| valorie | but I'm pretty sure it needs to be mentioned at least once | 19:00 |
| valorie | in particular, that sentence I put above is factually wrong | 19:00 |
| valorie | ubuntu-desktop does not install Gnome | 19:01 |
| valorie | anymore | 19:01 |
| * DarkwingDuck nods | 19:04 | |
| DarkwingDuck | Not too much, but make it the truth | 19:05 |
| valorie | oh, and will they still call it GDM? | 19:10 |
| DarkwingDuck | valorie, That I am not sure of. | 19:11 |
| valorie | so, question, DarkwingDuck: &gnome; should be changed to Unity, or &unity; | 19:12 |
| DarkwingDuck | Have not used the main ubuntu since Intrepid | 19:12 |
| DarkwingDuck | I would say yes. | 19:12 |
| valorie | I've only used it briefly, in frustration | 19:12 |
| valorie | yes which? | 19:12 |
| DarkwingDuck | Do Unity | 19:12 |
| valorie | ok | 19:13 |
| DarkwingDuck | BRB, update reboot. :) | 19:14 |
| DarkwingDuck | valorie, I know that this is a dumb question but, you are bouncing everything you are doing off of Oneiric right? | 19:17 |
| valorie | exactly | 19:18 |
| DarkwingDuck | :) | 19:18 |
| valorie | looking at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneiricOcelot/TechnicalOverview/Beta1 | 19:18 |
| valorie | and we decided NOT to do lightDM, correct? | 19:18 |
| DarkwingDuck | Are you running Oneiric in a VM or on your machine? | 19:19 |
| valorie | no | 19:20 |
| valorie | I haven't run a VM for a long time | 19:20 |
| DarkwingDuck | You are going to want to as you go deeper in the documentation. | 19:20 |
| DarkwingDuck | esp path to | 19:20 |
| valorie | by "bouncing off of" you mean "write in light of" | 19:20 |
| valorie | I assume | 19:20 |
| valorie | DarkwingDuck: I'm willing to do that in the future, even tomorrow | 19:21 |
| valorie | but not today | 19:21 |
| valorie | i came back early from the cabin for this meeting | 19:21 |
| valorie | and will go back up this afternoon | 19:21 |
| DarkwingDuck | :D | 19:22 |
| DarkwingDuck | The doc freeze is the 15th | 19:23 |
| DarkwingDuck | I was hoping for more people today. | 19:23 |
| frankbooth | DarkwingDuck if there's anything I can help out with, without having access to a machine with Oneiric, please let me know | 19:25 |
| DarkwingDuck | frankbooth, valorie pretty much grabbed the one that is a general overview... The rest is ensuring that the information is correct for Oneiric. | 19:27 |
| jjesse | i'b made notes | 19:30 |
| jjesse | on what i'm working on but if someone was tackle those now i'm fine | 19:30 |
| DarkwingDuck | ? | 19:30 |
| DarkwingDuck | Fill out the work idems. | 19:31 |
| DarkwingDuck | If I put my name on what you were working on change it. | 19:31 |
| jjesse | ok | 19:31 |
| valorie | ok, should I save, or save as ? | 19:31 |
| DarkwingDuck | No sense doubled effort | 19:31 |
| DarkwingDuck | save | 19:31 |
| DarkwingDuck | Before you commit make sure you update again. | 19:31 |
| DarkwingDuck | rather | 19:32 |
| DarkwingDuck | Update then follow this https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Documentation/Submitting | 19:32 |
| DarkwingDuck | And merge via Launchpad. | 19:34 |
| valorie | you don't want to check my work? | 19:34 |
| DarkwingDuck | I will there :) | 19:35 |
| valorie | ok | 19:35 |
| DarkwingDuck | Proposing for a merge will allow me to review the diff, approve it then make the merge. | 19:35 |
| DarkwingDuck | Well, any of us with Kubuntu access. | 19:35 |
| valorie | ok | 19:35 |
| valorie | so these changes are not in response to bug reports, correct? | 19:36 |
| valorie | oh good lord, how do I save this benighted text describing my changes? | 19:38 |
| valorie | is this vi or vim or what? | 19:38 |
| jjesse | nano i think | 19:38 |
| jjesse | ctrl x | 19:38 |
| jjesse | if i remember correctly | 19:38 |
| jjesse | don't have my ubuntu vm right now | 19:39 |
| valorie | hmmmm | 19:39 |
| jjesse | did that work? | 19:40 |
| valorie | I guess | 19:40 |
| jjesse | what do you see now? | 19:40 |
| valorie | let's see if I can create a diff.txt | 19:40 |
| valorie | Committing to: /home/valorie/kubuntu_bzr/kubuntu-docs/ | 19:42 |
| valorie | modified docs/about/C/about.xml | 19:42 |
| valorie | Committed revision 223. | 19:42 |
| valorie | valorie@valorie-HP-Pavilion-dv7-Notebook-PC:~/kubuntu_bzr/kubuntu-docs$ bzr bundle > diffname.txt | 19:42 |
| valorie | Using saved parent location "bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/%2Bbranch/kubuntu-docs/" to determine what changes to submit. | 19:42 |
| valorie | Enter passphrase for key '/home/valorie/.ssh/id_rsa': | 19:42 |
| valorie | Enter passphrase for key '/home/valorie/.ssh/id_rsa': | 19:42 |
| valorie | Bundling 1 revision(s).tching revisions:Get stream source | 19:42 |
| valorie | does that all look right? | 19:42 |
| jjesse | yes | 19:43 |
| valorie | weeeeeeeeee | 19:44 |
| valorie | in for a dime, in for a dollar; about to finish this | 19:44 |
| jjesse | yay | 19:44 |
| DarkwingDuck | :D | 19:45 |
| valorie | what the hell, I was going to link to a blueprint, but there is nothing suitable offered | 19:46 |
| valorie | Lucid? | 19:46 |
| jjesse | should be oneric but if you can't find thats fine | 19:46 |
| DarkwingDuck | Don't worry about the blueprint. | 19:46 |
| valorie | ok, go back and forget that? | 19:46 |
| valorie | or use the lucid one | 19:47 |
| DarkwingDuck | Forget it. | 19:47 |
| * DarkwingDuck doesn't know why oneiric isn't working | 19:47 | |
| DarkwingDuck | I'll fix that for P | 19:47 |
| valorie | proposed merge | 19:48 |
| valorie | :-) | 19:48 |
| valorie | this is exciting | 19:48 |
| jjesse | DarkwingDuck after the approve do i merge it ? n ever really figured these out very weel | 19:49 |
| DarkwingDuck | Yeah, I'll explain that to ya in a min | 19:49 |
| DarkwingDuck | jjesse, you at that merge request page? | 19:50 |
| DarkwingDuck | https://code.launchpad.net/~valorie-zimmerman/kubuntu-docs/valorieEdits/+merge/74028 | 19:50 |
| jjesse | YUP | 19:50 |
| jjesse | argh caps | 19:50 |
| jjesse | reading the diff right now | 19:50 |
| DarkwingDuck | Under status you can claim the review and all of that. | 19:51 |
| jjesse | ok | 19:51 |
| jjesse | powering up kubuntu vm | 19:51 |
| valorie | I believe I'll be able to do the CLI one without installing a VM | 19:53 |
| DarkwingDuck | give it a shot. :) | 19:53 |
| DarkwingDuck | I've been running Oneiric since Alpha 2 | 19:54 |
| DarkwingDuck | rather alpha 3 | 19:54 |
| valorie | the only new thing I've seen recently is apt-add-repository | 19:54 |
| valorie | cli is pretty stable | 19:54 |
| jjesse | beta was a pain in my arse yesterday | 19:55 |
| DarkwingDuck | I've been pretty good... There are some minor issues. | 19:56 |
| DarkwingDuck | Anyway jjesse | 19:56 |
| DarkwingDuck | Once you have claimed the review and approved it. | 19:56 |
| jjesse | ok claiming it right now | 19:56 |
| DarkwingDuck | At the top of the page https://code.launchpad.net/~valorie-zimmerman/kubuntu-docs/valorieEdits/+merge/74028 you will see the following. | 19:57 |
| DarkwingDuck | Status: | 19:57 |
| DarkwingDuck | Needs review Edit status | 19:57 |
| DarkwingDuck | Proposed branch: lp:~valorie-zimmerman/kubuntu-docs/valorieEdits | 19:57 |
| DarkwingDuck | Merge into: lp:kubuntu-docs | 19:57 |
| DarkwingDuck | Diff against target: 64 lines (+8/-9) 1 file modified | 19:57 |
| DarkwingDuck | To merge this branch: bzr merge lp:~valorie-zimmerman/kubuntu-docs/valorieEdits | 19:57 |
| DarkwingDuck | That last one is the one... | 19:57 |
| DarkwingDuck | In your bzr:/kubuntu-docs | 19:57 |
| jjesse | ok checking to make sure i'm up to date :) | 19:57 |
| DarkwingDuck | kk | 19:58 |
| DarkwingDuck | bzr merge lp:~valorie-zimmerman/kubuntu-docs/valorieEdits | 20:00 |
| jjesse | ok approved starting the merge | 20:00 |
| DarkwingDuck | That will merge it into the system | 20:00 |
| jjesse | merging and commiting | 20:00 |
| jjesse | pushed | 20:01 |
| jjesse | yay valorie rocks | 20:01 |
| DarkwingDuck | what version? | 20:02 |
| valorie | weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! | 20:03 |
| jjesse | revision 224 | 20:05 |
| DarkwingDuck | Just got a call.. have to pick up the wife... other car broke down. | 20:05 |
| DarkwingDuck | I'll be back... jjesse you going to be around for a couple hours incase someone else comes in? | 20:06 |
| DarkwingDuck | in case | 20:06 |
| mdke | I will idle in here | 20:07 |
| mdke | and try and help if poss | 20:07 |
| DarkwingDuck | awesome. Thanks mdke | 20:08 |
| mdke | looks like some good stuff going on! | 20:08 |
| DarkwingDuck | We will knock it out. | 20:09 |
| DarkwingDuck | mdke, who handles the server doc stuff? | 20:09 |
| mdke | DarkwingDuck: no one specific at the moment - currently whoever is willing to review patches. Connor and Jeremy have both been doing some reviewing | 20:10 |
| mdke | hopefully someone will step up from the serverteam as a maintainer | 20:10 |
| jjesse | sure | 20:10 |
| DarkwingDuck | mdke, Okay, Is that still docbook or, is that mallard? | 20:10 |
| mdke | docbook | 20:12 |
| mdke | Mallard isn't really suited to a long book style document like the serverguide | 20:12 |
| DarkwingDuck | Okay, I'll take a look. I use Ubuntu Server here at home on my local server. | 20:13 |
| DarkwingDuck | Plus, ScottK and I work together with Kubuntu and working together with server docs would be simple | 20:13 |
| mdke | cool | 20:14 |
| DarkwingDuck | mdke, will talk later.. .have to run! | 20:14 |
| mdke | okay, cya | 20:18 |
| mdke | anyone using Ubuntu Oneiric around? | 20:18 |
| j1mc | mdke: i'll be putting it in a vm shortly. | 20:21 |
| jjesse | i have a Kubuntu Oneric vm and a my netbook is running oneric natively | 20:23 |
| mdke | I'm looking at this bug but struggling as I can't find the application referred to? | 20:24 |
| mdke | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-user-docs/+bug/840905 | 20:25 |
| ubot2` | Ubuntu bug 840905 in gnome-user-docs "color-whyimportant missing" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 20:25 |
| mdke | is my version so outdated that it is missing this application? | 20:25 |
| j1mc | i think that is new to oneiric | 20:26 |
| j1mc | i need to step away. bbiab. | 20:26 |
| mdke | I'm using a live usb from Friday, maybe I should get a newer one, but seems strange they would introduce a new application since then | 20:27 |
| * mdke zsyncs | 20:27 | |
| jjesse | DarkwingDuck changed the copyright, it was on the TODO/Workitems and i don't have access to edit the blueprint | 20:38 |
| jjesse | DarkwingDuck also made some other minor changes | 20:38 |
| jjesse | DarkwingDuck: also on the whiteboard it says change OpenOffice to LibreOffice which I took care awhile back. I reviewed and thought I caught all of them. I also changed the menus-ent to reference LibreOffice | 20:40 |
| jjesse | DarkwingDuck please confirm i made all of the change | 20:40 |
| jjesse | DarkwingDuck also the netbook folder was empty so removed it from the branch | 20:42 |
| jjesse | DarkwingDuck let me knwo if removing breaks anything :) | 20:42 |
| mdke | hey jbicha | 21:27 |
| valorie | ok, proposed merge for the CLI section | 21:33 |
| valorie | do we have some style guide that means we have to use "e-mail"? | 21:35 |
| valorie | that looks antiquated to me | 21:35 |
| valorie | in Contact | 21:36 |
| * valorie changes | 21:36 | |
| valorie | hmmm, there is a problem, because no one has reviewed my previous proposed merge, I guess | 21:55 |
| valorie | not sure what to do about that, and I'm sort of out of time | 21:56 |
| valorie | I'll be back home later tonight or tomorrow morning at the latest | 21:56 |
| mdke | valorie: if you commit to the same branch and continue to propose the merge, it should work | 22:01 |
| mdke | valorie: agreed re e-mail | 22:01 |
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