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andrew_hi09:34
thelinuxerhi andrew_09:34
andrew_finally found someone to chat with about ubuntu09:34
thelinuxerandrew_: :)09:35
thelinuxerso ... tell me about ur problem .. and I will try to fix it isA09:36
andrew_simple problem i think09:36
andrew_i want to install photoshop in ubuntu09:36
thelinuxersimple indeed :D09:36
andrew_:D09:37
thelinuxertayeb please install something called playonlinux from the software center09:37
thelinuxerthis thing makes it really easy to install windows based software on linux09:38
andrew_hwa momken ysh3'alo asl fe nas 2aloly eno le  el games09:38
thelinuxerla2 mesh lel games bas09:38
andrew_ana grabt wine bas useless09:38
thelinuxerwine needs tweeking09:38
thelinuxerand what works on a certain version won't work on another09:39
thelinuxerthat's y a project like playonlinux exists09:39
andrew_koes ana hastab el "playonlinux" now09:39
thelinuxerto apply the tweaks and choose the correct wine version09:39
thelinuxerok ping me when u come back09:39
andrew_momken so2al tany r5m shwaya09:39
andrew_:)09:39
thelinuxerby ping me, i mean mention me in your message09:39
thelinuxershoot ...09:39
andrew_i want to learn the terminal commands09:40
andrew_can't find any useful videos or books09:40
andrew_i have eBook but its about 1000 page09:40
andrew_i want something fast ;)09:41
thelinuxerok fast means u'll learn the basics09:42
thelinuxerthen u'll take it from there09:42
thelinuxeruse the shell every day and u'll gain experience09:42
thelinuxeri studied books on shell scripting but i forgot most of it because i don't use these commands09:42
thelinuxercheck this out http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prog-Intro-HOWTO.html09:43
andrew_i just need the basics like how to make files and how to change the permision and so on09:43
thelinuxeryou don't have to study it all09:43
thelinuxeroh sorry09:43
thelinuxeri thought u wanted to do shell scripting09:43
andrew_no problem i am very weak at english :(09:44
thelinuxerno, it was me who got u wrong09:44
thelinuxercheck this out09:44
thelinuxerhttp://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/cli.html09:45
andrew_thanks09:45
thelinuxeryw09:45
thelinuxerping me after u install playonlinux09:45
andrew_suree09:46
andrew_why you don't have your own blog or website09:47
andrew_you know fan page is just not enouph09:48
thelinuxerour website is currently under development09:48
andrew_i can help if you want i am php developer09:49
thelinuxerif u want to help then join the team09:52
thelinuxersubscribe to the mailing list09:52
thelinuxerand introduce urself09:52
thelinuxercheck this join09:53
thelinuxerhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/EgyptTeam/Become%20A%20Member09:53
andrew_i will now09:55
thelinuxerkool09:55
thelinuxerdon't forget to check the team structure at the end of the page09:56
andrew_ok09:57
thelinuxerhey elacheche_anis welcome back :)11:07
elacheche_anishey thelinuxer :D11:07
elacheche_aniswhat's up?11:08
thelinuxerel7amdulelal everything is fine ... how was eid at ur side ?11:08
elacheche_anisIt's ok :D just very tired because of the UGJ :D11:13
thelinuxerhow was it ?11:13
elacheche_anisFor me it was awesome :D I'm in the UGj right now :D there is a packaging session :D11:14
thelinuxerelacheche_anis: sorry i was away11:46
thelinuxerthat's cool dude11:46
thelinuxeri packaged my first deb last friday11:46
thelinuxeryala i will leave u to the session now11:46
thelinuxersalam11:46
elacheche_anisnever mind ;) yeh it's coooool :D11:46
elacheche_anisok, :D see you later :)11:48
EgyParadoxmohammedalieng12:33
EgyParadox:D12:33
thelinuxerEgyParadox: 7ala2lak we meshy :D12:36
EgyParadox3ady12:36
elacheche_anisloooooooool12:36
ashamsEgyParadox: :P12:36
EgyParadoxmet3awed 3ala keda12:36
EgyParadox:D12:36
elacheche_aniswhat's up guys :)12:36
ashamselacheche_anis: gr812:36
elacheche_anis:D12:37
thelinuxer:D12:37
EgyParadoxento delwa2ti shaghaleen 3ala eh?12:37
* ashams is watching Shakira: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRpeEdMmmQ012:38
thelinuxerashams: dude this is not appropriate in a room full of geeks12:38
ashamsthelinuxer: Shakira is appropriate anywhere12:38
ashamsthelinuxer: :P12:39
thelinuxerashams: :)12:39
ashamselacheche_anis: Are u involved in development?12:40
ashamsSeems that elacheche_anis is still watching the vid :)12:40
thelinuxerhe's actually busy in the UGJ12:41
ashamsYou still gathering?12:41
ashamsis he from alex?12:42
thelinuxerelacheche_anis is from Tunis12:42
EgyParadoxno hes from ubuntu-tn12:42
ashamselacheche_anis: OH! HI12:43
ashamsEgyParadox: thnx12:43
ashamsthelinuxer: thnx12:43
ashamsthelinuxer: what you think about changing the Owner? You know I don't like 1 line erplies :P12:45
ashamsreplies*12:45
thelinuxeractually this topic is a little bit sensitive12:45
thelinuxeri am having mixed feelings about it12:46
thelinuxeri was hoping that people would reply to this but no one actually did12:46
ashamsDefinitely, I hesitated to send it for ~4 months now12:47
thelinuxeri guess we can check/ask what the owner can do12:47
thelinuxerand what it represents12:47
thelinuxerand then decide to change it12:47
thelinuxeror not12:47
EgyParadoxwhat owner?12:47
elacheche_anisback, sorry for the late XD12:47
ashamsbut openness should be the best choice12:47
thelinuxerelacheche_anis: hi :) np12:48
elacheche_anisashams, I don't like shakira videos :p XD12:48
thelinuxeropenness ? don't know how is that relevant ?12:48
elacheche_anisWe finish the packaging session, and we have a pause right know EgyParadox12:49
EgyParadox:D12:49
ashamsthelinuxer: I think I should open a question @ ubuntu-community project, to clear everybody's side12:49
elacheche_anisthelinuxer, I'm feom M'saken not Tunis :p ;) :D (Tunis is the capital)12:50
thelinuxerelacheche_anis: sorry for the confusion12:50
EgyParadoxmasaken elashraf?12:50
EgyParadox:D12:50
thelinuxerashams: please do that12:50
elacheche_anisyes EgyParadox مساكن اﻷشراف How do you know this information??12:59
EgyParadox:D12:59
elacheche_anis:D12:59
ashamsthelinuxer: I wished to receive open replies from other team members too13:02
thelinuxerashams: try pinging them again on the mailing list13:03
thelinuxerand pointing out how this is important13:03
thelinuxerbut we need to know for sure that it is important :)13:03
ashamsthelinuxer: I'll prepare a good reply, I hope some1 reply this time13:04
ashamselacheche_anis: Do you like Michel Jackson?13:05
ashamsMichael*13:06
thelinuxerashams: sorry got disconnected13:07
ashamsthelinuxer: Vodafone too? :P13:07
thelinuxernope, just plain old bad IT guys :D13:08
elacheche_anisyes ashams I like MJ13:08
* elacheche_anis BRB13:09
* ashams brb too13:15
* ashams is back13:55
elacheche_aniswelcome back ashams13:55
ashamselacheche_anis: You know, maybe one day I'll be visiting Tunisia, right to the spot when Mohammed El Bo #ezeizi burned himself13:56
ashamswhere*13:57
ashamselacheche_anis: he was the spark of all of this13:57
elacheche_anisWelcome at any time :)13:57
ashams:D13:57
ashamsMenopia: Hi14:24
Menopiaashams, Hiiiiiiiiii14:25
Menopia:D14:25
ashamsI need your opinion on this: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-eg/2011-September/003791.html14:25
Menopiak thwany14:26
ashamsMenopia: Thanks :D14:26
Menopiaah mowafka :D14:27
Menopiael mafrod yeb2a one admin14:27
Menopiathelinuxer, bs :D14:27
thelinuxerMenopia: thanks but i don't think this is true14:28
Menopiathelinuxer, leh?14:29
thelinuxerisA keda 7a3mel feeko zay mobarak :D14:29
thelinuxer30 years ahead 3arfeen men el admin :D14:29
Menopialooool :D14:29
thelinuxeri really think a committee is the way to go14:29
thelinuxerand have periodic elections14:30
Menopiabs 3ady momken yeb2a fe admins tanyen ba3d kda14:30
thelinuxerelacheche_anis: there is a committee for ubuntu-tn, right ?14:30
thelinuxerMenopia: momken tab2an14:30
thelinuxertab3an*14:30
Menopiathelinuxer, a7san bardo .. bs heya heya .. thelinuxer ektsaaa7 :D14:31
thelinuxerbas i guess we need to change the way we think about managing the community14:31
thelinuxerloool14:31
ashamsthelinuxer: Any way Tahrir is ready :)14:31
thelinuxerteslam ya basha14:31
thelinuxerha2ow!14:31
thelinuxerma 7'ado el saneya :D14:31
Menopialooool14:32
ashams El Saneya will be our top priority on 9/914:32
thelinuxerEL SENEYA BETA3TY WE MESH 7ASMA7LKO TA7'DOOHA !!14:32
ashamsYou should Admin @ SCAF too14:34
ashamsbe*14:34
thelinuxerlooooooooool14:34
thelinuxerda law ana el admin fel SCAF konto zamanko edala3to ...14:34
thelinuxershams leeh el itesalat14:34
thelinuxerwazery el ta3leem el 3aly14:34
thelinuxeranas el tegara el 7'aregeya14:35
thelinuxera7la tazbeet14:35
Menopiahowa el IRC meeting el gaay emta?14:35
Menopiathelinuxer, looooooooool14:35
thelinuxernext meeting will be isA friday 16th14:35
thelinuxernot sure IRC wala personal meeting14:36
Menopiael mafrdo yeb2a el main topic el approval application14:36
Menopiafe ra2yee ya3ny14:36
thelinuxersa7ee7 fakarteny14:36
thelinuxerashams: ya wiki admin :D14:36
thelinuxerwe need a small favor14:36
ashamsthelinuxer: yes ya man14:36
ashamsthelinuxer: go ahead14:36
thelinuxercan u create the team reports page ?14:37
thelinuxerit's simply a collection of what we did in a certain month14:37
thelinuxerreally really simple14:37
ashamsthelinuxer: OK, nice Idea14:37
thelinuxerit's not my idead14:38
thelinuxeridea*14:38
thelinuxerit's something official14:38
thelinuxercheck the locos wiki14:38
thelinuxerbrb14:38
thelinuxerhere it si14:40
thelinuxeris*\14:40
thelinuxerhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/BuildingCommunity/TeamReporting14:40
thelinuxerashams: example https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrishTeam/TeamReports14:41
ashamslovely14:41
* ashams is working14:43
thelinuxerashams:  cool dude :)14:44
thelinuxerMenopia: dude if u want us to talk about approval14:54
thelinuxerhere are the steps i think we should do14:54
thelinuxerfirst we need to create the application14:54
thelinuxerwrite down everything14:54
thelinuxerand ask people on the mailing list to review it14:54
thelinuxerdiscussing this in a meeting is really time consuming14:54
Menopiaah14:55
elacheche_anisback, thelinuxer what are you talking about?? what committee14:55
elacheche_anis?14:55
thelinuxermay be when we are done we can meet to discuss it evern more14:55
thelinuxerelacheche_anis: i found this grp on launchpad called ubuntu-tn committee or something14:55
thelinuxerMenopia: check this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EgyptTeam/ApprovalApplication14:55
elacheche_anisoh yes, the CM(committee management).. For now we have not a MC, we change the structure of the teams, we have a new team called coordination team.. We want to do a new startup for our loco :D14:57
Menopiabut is is very old, just to make an idea of what approval applications should look like14:57
thelinuxerelacheche_anis: that's gr814:57
Menopiabtw I read it one year ago :)14:57
thelinuxeri was mentioning this because i was meeting resistance when i talked about for this for our loco14:58
thelinuxerMenopia: can u restructure it ?14:58
thelinuxerand make it pretty like u always do :D14:58
Menopiabt7rgny dayman kda :D15:00
Menopiasa7e7 howa fe Qt session el esbo3 dah?15:01
Menopiathelinuxer,15:04
thelinuxerisA15:04
thelinuxerMenopia: 7ateshta3'al 3ala el application ?15:07
Menopiaah15:07
Menopiaana kman ha7ot el insights bta3t el face :D15:07
thelinuxerMenopia: tab3an, tab please copy this application. And work on the new copy or something15:13
thelinuxerbackup ya3ny15:13
MenopiaOK15:13
EgyParadoxThe only approved Arab teams are ubuntu-tn and ubuntu morrocco15:15
thelinuxerEgyParadox: yeah it's a pitty15:18
ashamsEgyParadox: you'll be adding ubuntu-eg soon isA15:26
ashamsEvent: Wisconsin LoCo is running an IRC Bug Jam, Sunday 1700 UTC (four hours from now), #ubuntu-us-wi. Great training opportunity for people new to bugs.16:29
ashamsEvent: sorry it's just half an hour from now :D16:30
ashamsMenopia: Hi, I need your opinion on this msg: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-eg/2011-September/003791.html16:52
ashamsEgyParadox: Hi, I need your opinion on this msg: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-eg/2011-September/003791.html16:52
ashamsseif: Hi, I need your opinion on this msg: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-eg/2011-September/003791.html16:52
EgyParadoxashams: Fee 7aga ye2dar ne3melha e7na mane2darsh?16:53
Menopiaashams, tany :D16:54
ashamsEgyParadox: Menopia Bet7'afo?16:54
EgyParadoxye2dar ye3melha16:55
EgyParadoxka authroitu16:55
EgyParadoxauthority*16:55
Menopiaashams, msh fahem16:55
ashamsMenopia: EgyParadox I just need your opinion16:56
EgyParadoxana ra2yee eno law 3ando solta e7na ma3andenash tab3an lazem tekalemhom16:57
ashamsEgyParadox: Menopia I need support on that msg so I can attach to a support request from Community Council16:57
Menopiamana 2olto el sob7 .. ana wazery ya3m :D16:57
EgyParadoxbas delwa2ti elteam managed by toulan/mzaian16:57
EgyParadoxon launchpad dol eladmins16:57
Menopiaashams, t2sod a3ml reply 3al message sa7?16:57
ashamsMenopia: Aywa ya 3am :D16:58
Menopiaah asef ana hayest showya :D16:58
ashamsMenopia: np, Ana met3awwed 3ala keda mennak o.o16:58
ashamsEgyParadox: So.....16:59
Menopialooooooool :D16:59
EgyParadoxasdi16:59
Menopiaashams, ana ha2om akol w agy a3ml reply16:59
ashamsMenopia: Bel hana wel Shefa ya seidi17:00
ashamsMenopia: 3andoko akl eih?17:00
ashamsMenopia: Eb2a Eftekrana Be 2i 7aga17:00
ashamsEgyParadox: What's your opinion on that Ownership thing?17:01
EgyParadoxmana oltelak dah ra2yee17:01
EgyParadoxlaw howa lee privileges e7na ma3endenash17:01
EgyParadoxbas17:01
ashamsEgyParadox: I'm not asking you to do it, I just need to know if you agree or not?17:02
ashamsEgyParadox: as a normal member17:03
EgyParadoxI agree law 7aye3melena mashakel eno maslan mesh 7ane2dar ne3mel ay 7aga ela law elcreator wafe217:03
EgyParadoxana mesh 3aref law fee 7aga zay keda17:03
ashamsEgyParadox: we can do whatever we want evn if current/active Admins denied17:04
ashamsEgyParadox: This is not the cause17:04
ashamsEgyParadox: It's about the existance of some always-absent admin17:05
EgyParadoxmashy17:05
ashamsEgyParadox: The whole issue is about, assigning jobs to whom is qualified enough, and de-assigning whom ever goes inactive17:07
ashamsEgyParadox: Just for preserving team's health17:07
EgyParadoxtab ento 7awelto tewsalolo?17:10
ashamsEgyParadox: It's not needed, why?, because if he didn't read the msg from the mailing list, then he's inactive enough to be de-administized17:12
EgyParadoxhmm17:13
Menopiaashams, t2omor .. hab3atlak shoywa fe mail :P17:14
ashamsMenopia: 3ala Allah teb3at la7ma;)17:15
Menopia5arof b7alow 3shanak bs :D17:15
Menopiaashams, done17:20
Menopialesa EgyParadox :D17:20
ashamsMenopia: Thanks :D17:21
EgyParadoxlwsa eh?17:44
EgyParadoxlesa eh*17:44
seifashams, i can contact karim fayez17:46
ashamsEgyParadox: Thanks :D17:51
ashamsseif: How, by phone?17:51
seifyeah17:56
seifi think i have his number17:56
seifif not i have him on msn too17:56
EgyParadoxi mean authority not privleges*17:57
ashamsseif: This would be great idea, but I think you're the one who should call him18:04
ashamsseif: It would be sensitive for any of us ;)18:04
ashamsseif: Hi, still there?20:28
seifpyeah20:32
seifi did not call yet20:32
seifwill look inot that tomorrow20:32
seifhave other stuff i am busy with atm20:32
seifsorry20:32
ashamsseif: Ok, bye20:33

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