[09:34] <andrew_> hi
[09:34] <thelinuxer> hi andrew_
[09:34] <andrew_> finally found someone to chat with about ubuntu
[09:35] <thelinuxer> andrew_: :)
[09:36] <thelinuxer> so ... tell me about ur problem .. and I will try to fix it isA
[09:36] <andrew_> simple problem i think
[09:36] <andrew_> i want to install photoshop in ubuntu
[09:36] <thelinuxer> simple indeed :D
[09:37] <andrew_> :D
[09:37] <thelinuxer> tayeb please install something called playonlinux from the software center
[09:38] <thelinuxer> this thing makes it really easy to install windows based software on linux
[09:38] <andrew_> hwa momken ysh3'alo asl fe nas 2aloly eno le  el games
[09:38] <thelinuxer> la2 mesh lel games bas
[09:38] <andrew_> ana grabt wine bas useless
[09:38] <thelinuxer> wine needs tweeking
[09:39] <thelinuxer> and what works on a certain version won't work on another
[09:39] <thelinuxer> that's y a project like playonlinux exists
[09:39] <andrew_> koes ana hastab el "playonlinux" now
[09:39] <thelinuxer> to apply the tweaks and choose the correct wine version
[09:39] <thelinuxer> ok ping me when u come back
[09:39] <andrew_> momken so2al tany r5m shwaya
[09:39] <andrew_> :)
[09:39] <thelinuxer> by ping me, i mean mention me in your message
[09:39] <thelinuxer> shoot ...
[09:40] <andrew_> i want to learn the terminal commands
[09:40] <andrew_> can't find any useful videos or books
[09:40] <andrew_> i have eBook but its about 1000 page
[09:41] <andrew_> i want something fast ;)
[09:42] <thelinuxer> ok fast means u'll learn the basics
[09:42] <thelinuxer> then u'll take it from there
[09:42] <thelinuxer> use the shell every day and u'll gain experience
[09:42] <thelinuxer> i studied books on shell scripting but i forgot most of it because i don't use these commands
[09:43] <thelinuxer> check this out http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prog-Intro-HOWTO.html
[09:43] <andrew_> i just need the basics like how to make files and how to change the permision and so on
[09:43] <thelinuxer> you don't have to study it all
[09:43] <thelinuxer> oh sorry
[09:43] <thelinuxer> i thought u wanted to do shell scripting
[09:44] <andrew_> no problem i am very weak at english :(
[09:44] <thelinuxer> no, it was me who got u wrong
[09:44] <thelinuxer> check this out
[09:45] <thelinuxer> http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/cli.html
[09:45] <andrew_> thanks
[09:45] <thelinuxer> yw
[09:45] <thelinuxer> ping me after u install playonlinux
[09:46] <andrew_> suree
[09:47] <andrew_> why you don't have your own blog or website
[09:48] <andrew_> you know fan page is just not enouph
[09:48] <thelinuxer> our website is currently under development
[09:49] <andrew_> i can help if you want i am php developer
[09:52] <thelinuxer> if u want to help then join the team
[09:52] <thelinuxer> subscribe to the mailing list
[09:52] <thelinuxer> and introduce urself
[09:53] <thelinuxer> check this join
[09:53] <thelinuxer> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EgyptTeam/Become%20A%20Member
[09:55] <andrew_> i will now
[09:55] <thelinuxer> kool
[09:56] <thelinuxer> don't forget to check the team structure at the end of the page
[09:57] <andrew_> ok
[11:07] <thelinuxer> hey elacheche_anis welcome back :)
[11:07] <elacheche_anis> hey thelinuxer :D
[11:08] <elacheche_anis> what's up?
[11:08] <thelinuxer> el7amdulelal everything is fine ... how was eid at ur side ?
[11:13] <elacheche_anis> It's ok :D just very tired because of the UGJ :D
[11:13] <thelinuxer> how was it ?
[11:14] <elacheche_anis> For me it was awesome :D I'm in the UGj right now :D there is a packaging session :D
[11:46] <thelinuxer> elacheche_anis: sorry i was away
[11:46] <thelinuxer> that's cool dude
[11:46] <thelinuxer> i packaged my first deb last friday
[11:46] <thelinuxer> yala i will leave u to the session now
[11:46] <thelinuxer> salam
[11:46] <elacheche_anis> never mind ;) yeh it's coooool :D
[11:48] <elacheche_anis> ok, :D see you later :)
[12:33] <EgyParadox> mohammedalieng
[12:33] <EgyParadox> :D
[12:36] <thelinuxer> EgyParadox: 7ala2lak we meshy :D
[12:36] <EgyParadox> 3ady
[12:36] <elacheche_anis> loooooooool
[12:36] <ashams> EgyParadox: :P
[12:36] <EgyParadox> met3awed 3ala keda
[12:36] <EgyParadox> :D
[12:36] <elacheche_anis> what's up guys :)
[12:36] <ashams> elacheche_anis: gr8
[12:37] <elacheche_anis> :D
[12:37] <thelinuxer> :D
[12:37] <EgyParadox> ento delwa2ti shaghaleen 3ala eh?
[12:38]  * ashams is watching Shakira: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRpeEdMmmQ0
[12:38] <thelinuxer> ashams: dude this is not appropriate in a room full of geeks
[12:38] <ashams> thelinuxer: Shakira is appropriate anywhere
[12:39] <ashams> thelinuxer: :P
[12:39] <thelinuxer> ashams: :)
[12:40] <ashams> elacheche_anis: Are u involved in development?
[12:40] <ashams> Seems that elacheche_anis is still watching the vid :)
[12:41] <thelinuxer> he's actually busy in the UGJ
[12:41] <ashams> You still gathering?
[12:42] <ashams> is he from alex?
[12:42] <thelinuxer> elacheche_anis is from Tunis
[12:42] <EgyParadox> no hes from ubuntu-tn
[12:43] <ashams> elacheche_anis: OH! HI
[12:43] <ashams> EgyParadox: thnx
[12:43] <ashams> thelinuxer: thnx
[12:45] <ashams> thelinuxer: what you think about changing the Owner? You know I don't like 1 line erplies :P
[12:45] <ashams> replies*
[12:45] <thelinuxer> actually this topic is a little bit sensitive
[12:46] <thelinuxer> i am having mixed feelings about it
[12:46] <thelinuxer> i was hoping that people would reply to this but no one actually did
[12:47] <ashams> Definitely, I hesitated to send it for ~4 months now
[12:47] <thelinuxer> i guess we can check/ask what the owner can do
[12:47] <thelinuxer> and what it represents
[12:47] <thelinuxer> and then decide to change it
[12:47] <thelinuxer> or not
[12:47] <EgyParadox> what owner?
[12:47] <elacheche_anis> back, sorry for the late XD
[12:47] <ashams> but openness should be the best choice
[12:48] <thelinuxer> elacheche_anis: hi :) np
[12:48] <elacheche_anis> ashams, I don't like shakira videos :p XD
[12:48] <thelinuxer> openness ? don't know how is that relevant ?
[12:49] <elacheche_anis> We finish the packaging session, and we have a pause right know EgyParadox
[12:49] <EgyParadox> :D
[12:49] <ashams> thelinuxer: I think I should open a question @ ubuntu-community project, to clear everybody's side
[12:50] <elacheche_anis> thelinuxer, I'm feom M'saken not Tunis :p ;) :D (Tunis is the capital)
[12:50] <thelinuxer> elacheche_anis: sorry for the confusion
[12:50] <EgyParadox> masaken elashraf?
[12:50] <EgyParadox> :D
[12:50] <thelinuxer> ashams: please do that
[12:59] <elacheche_anis> yes EgyParadox مساكن اﻷشراف How do you know this information??
[12:59] <EgyParadox> :D
[12:59] <elacheche_anis> :D
[13:02] <ashams> thelinuxer: I wished to receive open replies from other team members too
[13:03] <thelinuxer> ashams: try pinging them again on the mailing list
[13:03] <thelinuxer> and pointing out how this is important
[13:03] <thelinuxer> but we need to know for sure that it is important :)
[13:04] <ashams> thelinuxer: I'll prepare a good reply, I hope some1 reply this time
[13:05] <ashams> elacheche_anis: Do you like Michel Jackson?
[13:06] <ashams> Michael*
[13:07] <thelinuxer> ashams: sorry got disconnected
[13:07] <ashams> thelinuxer: Vodafone too? :P
[13:08] <thelinuxer> nope, just plain old bad IT guys :D
[13:08] <elacheche_anis> yes ashams I like MJ
[13:09]  * elacheche_anis BRB
[13:15]  * ashams brb too
[13:55]  * ashams is back
[13:55] <elacheche_anis> welcome back ashams
[13:56] <ashams> elacheche_anis: You know, maybe one day I'll be visiting Tunisia, right to the spot when Mohammed El Bo #ezeizi burned himself
[13:57] <ashams> where*
[13:57] <ashams> elacheche_anis: he was the spark of all of this
[13:57] <elacheche_anis> Welcome at any time :)
[13:57] <ashams> :D
[14:24] <ashams> Menopia: Hi
[14:25] <Menopia> ashams, Hiiiiiiiiii
[14:25] <Menopia> :D
[14:25] <ashams> I need your opinion on this: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-eg/2011-September/003791.html
[14:26] <Menopia> k thwany
[14:26] <ashams> Menopia: Thanks :D
[14:27] <Menopia> ah mowafka :D
[14:27] <Menopia> el mafrod yeb2a one admin
[14:27] <Menopia> thelinuxer, bs :D
[14:28] <thelinuxer> Menopia: thanks but i don't think this is true
[14:29] <Menopia> thelinuxer, leh?
[14:29] <thelinuxer> isA keda 7a3mel feeko zay mobarak :D
[14:29] <thelinuxer> 30 years ahead 3arfeen men el admin :D
[14:29] <Menopia> looool :D
[14:29] <thelinuxer> i really think a committee is the way to go
[14:30] <thelinuxer> and have periodic elections
[14:30] <Menopia> bs 3ady momken yeb2a fe admins tanyen ba3d kda
[14:30] <thelinuxer> elacheche_anis: there is a committee for ubuntu-tn, right ?
[14:30] <thelinuxer> Menopia: momken tab2an
[14:30] <thelinuxer> tab3an*
[14:31] <Menopia> thelinuxer, a7san bardo .. bs heya heya .. thelinuxer ektsaaa7 :D
[14:31] <thelinuxer> bas i guess we need to change the way we think about managing the community
[14:31] <thelinuxer> loool
[14:31] <ashams> thelinuxer: Any way Tahrir is ready :)
[14:31] <thelinuxer> teslam ya basha
[14:31] <thelinuxer> ha2ow!
[14:31] <thelinuxer> ma 7'ado el saneya :D
[14:32] <Menopia> looool
[14:32] <ashams>  El Saneya will be our top priority on 9/9
[14:32] <thelinuxer> EL SENEYA BETA3TY WE MESH 7ASMA7LKO TA7'DOOHA !!
[14:34] <ashams> You should Admin @ SCAF too
[14:34] <ashams> be*
[14:34] <thelinuxer> looooooooool
[14:34] <thelinuxer> da law ana el admin fel SCAF konto zamanko edala3to ...
[14:34] <thelinuxer> shams leeh el itesalat
[14:34] <thelinuxer> wazery el ta3leem el 3aly
[14:35] <thelinuxer> anas el tegara el 7'aregeya
[14:35] <thelinuxer> a7la tazbeet
[14:35] <Menopia> howa el IRC meeting el gaay emta?
[14:35] <Menopia> thelinuxer, looooooooool
[14:35] <thelinuxer> next meeting will be isA friday 16th
[14:36] <thelinuxer> not sure IRC wala personal meeting
[14:36] <Menopia> el mafrdo yeb2a el main topic el approval application
[14:36] <Menopia> fe ra2yee ya3ny
[14:36] <thelinuxer> sa7ee7 fakarteny
[14:36] <thelinuxer> ashams: ya wiki admin :D
[14:36] <thelinuxer> we need a small favor
[14:36] <ashams> thelinuxer: yes ya man
[14:36] <ashams> thelinuxer: go ahead
[14:37] <thelinuxer> can u create the team reports page ?
[14:37] <thelinuxer> it's simply a collection of what we did in a certain month
[14:37] <thelinuxer> really really simple
[14:37] <ashams> thelinuxer: OK, nice Idea
[14:38] <thelinuxer> it's not my idead
[14:38] <thelinuxer> idea*
[14:38] <thelinuxer> it's something official
[14:38] <thelinuxer> check the locos wiki
[14:38] <thelinuxer> brb
[14:40] <thelinuxer> here it si
[14:40] <thelinuxer> is*\
[14:40] <thelinuxer> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BuildingCommunity/TeamReporting
[14:41] <thelinuxer> ashams: example https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrishTeam/TeamReports
[14:41] <ashams> lovely
[14:43]  * ashams is working
[14:44] <thelinuxer> ashams:  cool dude :)
[14:54] <thelinuxer> Menopia: dude if u want us to talk about approval
[14:54] <thelinuxer> here are the steps i think we should do
[14:54] <thelinuxer> first we need to create the application
[14:54] <thelinuxer> write down everything
[14:54] <thelinuxer> and ask people on the mailing list to review it
[14:54] <thelinuxer> discussing this in a meeting is really time consuming
[14:55] <Menopia> ah
[14:55] <elacheche_anis> back, thelinuxer what are you talking about?? what committee
[14:55] <elacheche_anis> ?
[14:55] <thelinuxer> may be when we are done we can meet to discuss it evern more
[14:55] <thelinuxer> elacheche_anis: i found this grp on launchpad called ubuntu-tn committee or something
[14:55] <thelinuxer> Menopia: check this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EgyptTeam/ApprovalApplication
[14:57] <elacheche_anis> oh yes, the CM(committee management).. For now we have not a MC, we change the structure of the teams, we have a new team called coordination team.. We want to do a new startup for our loco :D
[14:57] <Menopia> but is is very old, just to make an idea of what approval applications should look like
[14:57] <thelinuxer> elacheche_anis: that's gr8
[14:57] <Menopia> btw I read it one year ago :)
[14:58] <thelinuxer> i was mentioning this because i was meeting resistance when i talked about for this for our loco
[14:58] <thelinuxer> Menopia: can u restructure it ?
[14:58] <thelinuxer> and make it pretty like u always do :D
[15:00] <Menopia> bt7rgny dayman kda :D
[15:01] <Menopia> sa7e7 howa fe Qt session el esbo3 dah?
[15:04] <Menopia> thelinuxer,
[15:04] <thelinuxer> isA
[15:07] <thelinuxer> Menopia: 7ateshta3'al 3ala el application ?
[15:07] <Menopia> ah
[15:07] <Menopia> ana kman ha7ot el insights bta3t el face :D
[15:13] <thelinuxer> Menopia: tab3an, tab please copy this application. And work on the new copy or something
[15:13] <thelinuxer> backup ya3ny
[15:13] <Menopia> OK
[15:15] <EgyParadox> The only approved Arab teams are ubuntu-tn and ubuntu morrocco
[15:18] <thelinuxer> EgyParadox: yeah it's a pitty
[15:26] <ashams> EgyParadox: you'll be adding ubuntu-eg soon isA
[16:29] <ashams> Event: Wisconsin LoCo is running an IRC Bug Jam, Sunday 1700 UTC (four hours from now), #ubuntu-us-wi. Great training opportunity for people new to bugs.
[16:30] <ashams> Event: sorry it's just half an hour from now :D
[16:52] <ashams> Menopia: Hi, I need your opinion on this msg: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-eg/2011-September/003791.html
[16:52] <ashams> EgyParadox: Hi, I need your opinion on this msg: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-eg/2011-September/003791.html
[16:52] <ashams> seif: Hi, I need your opinion on this msg: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-eg/2011-September/003791.html
[16:53] <EgyParadox> ashams: Fee 7aga ye2dar ne3melha e7na mane2darsh?
[16:54] <Menopia> ashams, tany :D
[16:54] <ashams> EgyParadox: Menopia Bet7'afo?
[16:55] <EgyParadox> ye2dar ye3melha
[16:55] <EgyParadox> ka authroitu
[16:55] <EgyParadox> authority*
[16:55] <Menopia> ashams, msh fahem
[16:56] <ashams> Menopia: EgyParadox I just need your opinion
[16:57] <EgyParadox> ana ra2yee eno law 3ando solta e7na ma3andenash tab3an lazem tekalemhom
[16:57] <ashams> EgyParadox: Menopia I need support on that msg so I can attach to a support request from Community Council
[16:57] <Menopia> mana 2olto el sob7 .. ana wazery ya3m :D
[16:57] <EgyParadox> bas delwa2ti elteam managed by toulan/mzaian
[16:57] <EgyParadox> on launchpad dol eladmins
[16:57] <Menopia> ashams, t2sod a3ml reply 3al message sa7?
[16:58] <ashams> Menopia: Aywa ya 3am :D
[16:58] <Menopia> ah asef ana hayest showya :D
[16:58] <ashams> Menopia: np, Ana met3awwed 3ala keda mennak o.o
[16:59] <ashams> EgyParadox: So.....
[16:59] <Menopia> looooooool :D
[16:59] <EgyParadox> asdi
[16:59] <Menopia> ashams, ana ha2om akol w agy a3ml reply
[17:00] <ashams> Menopia: Bel hana wel Shefa ya seidi
[17:00] <ashams> Menopia: 3andoko akl eih?
[17:00] <ashams> Menopia: Eb2a Eftekrana Be 2i 7aga
[17:01] <ashams> EgyParadox: What's your opinion on that Ownership thing?
[17:01] <EgyParadox> mana oltelak dah ra2yee
[17:01] <EgyParadox> law howa lee privileges e7na ma3endenash
[17:01] <EgyParadox> bas
[17:02] <ashams> EgyParadox: I'm not asking you to do it, I just need to know if you agree or not?
[17:03] <ashams> EgyParadox: as a normal member
[17:03] <EgyParadox> I agree law 7aye3melena mashakel eno maslan mesh 7ane2dar ne3mel ay 7aga ela law elcreator wafe2
[17:03] <EgyParadox> ana mesh 3aref law fee 7aga zay keda
[17:04] <ashams> EgyParadox: we can do whatever we want evn if current/active Admins denied
[17:04] <ashams> EgyParadox: This is not the cause
[17:05] <ashams> EgyParadox: It's about the existance of some always-absent admin
[17:05] <EgyParadox> mashy
[17:07] <ashams> EgyParadox: The whole issue is about, assigning jobs to whom is qualified enough, and de-assigning whom ever goes inactive
[17:07] <ashams> EgyParadox: Just for preserving team's health
[17:10] <EgyParadox> tab ento 7awelto tewsalolo?
[17:12] <ashams> EgyParadox: It's not needed, why?, because if he didn't read the msg from the mailing list, then he's inactive enough to be de-administized
[17:13] <EgyParadox> hmm
[17:14] <Menopia> ashams, t2omor .. hab3atlak shoywa fe mail :P
[17:15] <ashams> Menopia: 3ala Allah teb3at la7ma;)
[17:15] <Menopia> 5arof b7alow 3shanak bs :D
[17:20] <Menopia> ashams, done
[17:20] <Menopia> lesa EgyParadox :D
[17:21] <ashams> Menopia: Thanks :D
[17:44] <EgyParadox> lwsa eh?
[17:44] <EgyParadox> lesa eh*
[17:46] <seif> ashams, i can contact karim fayez
[17:51] <ashams> EgyParadox: Thanks :D
[17:51] <ashams> seif: How, by phone?
[17:56] <seif> yeah
[17:56] <seif> i think i have his number
[17:56] <seif> if not i have him on msn too
[17:57] <EgyParadox> i mean authority not privleges*
[18:04] <ashams> seif: This would be great idea, but I think you're the one who should call him
[18:04] <ashams> seif: It would be sensitive for any of us ;)
[20:28] <ashams> seif: Hi, still there?
[20:32] <seif> pyeah
[20:32] <seif> i did not call yet
[20:32] <seif> will look inot that tomorrow
[20:32] <seif> have other stuff i am busy with atm
[20:32] <seif> sorry
[20:33] <ashams> seif: Ok, bye