| raevol | global jamming in san diego, torrenting beta1 cd atm | 01:14 |
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| raevol | any thoughts on using PCManFM doe xubuntu instead of thunar? just curious if it's been suggested | 04:07 |
| raevol | doe means on | 04:08 |
| raevol | how did i even do that... | 04:08 |
| micahg | raevol: no, we're an Xfce based distro, so unless Thunar becomes horribly broken, we'd stick with that | 04:12 |
| raevol | hmm, i'm going to switch to it until oeneric, because of the issue i've been having with it | 04:13 |
| micahg | raevol: what issue is that? | 04:13 |
| raevol | the first time i run it after booting it takes up to 2 minutes to launch, and usually launches 2 instances | 04:14 |
| micahg | raevol: BTW, you're free to install whatever software you like on your machine, as I'm sure you know | 04:14 |
| raevol | yup, that's why i just switched my FM, i just love xubuntu, so i figured i'd suggest it if it hadn't been suggested before | 04:14 |
| micahg | raevol: sounds like a possibly corrupted session that was saved | 04:14 |
| raevol | so i don't have thunar saved in my session, does thunar have its own session management? | 04:15 |
| raevol | this is when i manually launch thunar after booting | 04:15 |
| micahg | oh, hmm | 04:15 |
| raevol | pcmanfm | 04:15 |
| micahg | idk, I haven't dug into the xfce internals yet, I'm just a starting xubuntu-dev :) | 04:15 |
| raevol | woop wrong window | 04:15 |
| raevol | well, if i am still seeing the issue after oeneric i'll be back here to whine some more :) wish 11.04 would get the latest thunar updated in it though | 04:16 |
| micahg | raevol: generally, we don't update stable releases except with targetted bug fixes due to the risk of regression and interaction with other pieces of the software stack | 04:17 |
| raevol | makes sense | 04:17 |
| raevol | am i the only one seeing this issue then? | 04:17 |
| micahg | raevol: idk, I've been on oneiric for xubuntu since a couple weeks after release, maybe ask in #xubuntu?, our main QA person is offline at the moment, we have a community meeting Monday at 19:00 UTC, you're welcome to attend | 04:19 |
| raevol | i'll try to make it, where are the community meetings held? | 04:19 |
| micahg | raevol: right ehre | 04:20 |
| micahg | *here | 04:20 |
| raevol | ok cool | 04:20 |
| raevol | i'll be at work at that time, but i have my work computer set up to be idling here when i am there :) | 04:20 |
| Unit193 | Xfce doesn't let you fully switch to PCManFM, just to let you know | 04:22 |
| raevol | what's going to break? | 04:23 |
| Unit193 | If you put a link on the desktop for example, it'll still open in thunar | 04:25 |
| raevol | hmm, don't have any of those | 04:25 |
| raevol | it's just temporary though, so no worries, sorry for spamming up -devel | 04:31 |
| === GridCube is now known as Grid^3 | ||
| === Grid^3 is now known as GridCube | ||
| GridCube | today is meeting day? | 15:38 |
| GridCube | or the minutes are just old? | 15:38 |
| GridCube | good evening charlie-tca | 15:57 |
| GridCube | today is community meeting? | 15:57 |
| charlie-tca | Good evening | 15:57 |
| charlie-tca | nope | 15:57 |
| charlie-tca | tomorrow this week | 15:57 |
| charlie-tca | Monday at 19:00 UTC | 15:58 |
| GridCube | oh | 16:00 |
| GridCube | update community meeting minutes please :P | 16:00 |
| GridCube | :/ there is a known bug for compiz, people can't use it on 11.04, because emerald is broken | 16:32 |
| GridCube | not only on xubuntu, but in ubuntu too | 16:33 |
| GridCube | so people is having even more problems whit it and xubuntu :( | 16:33 |
| charlie-tca | okay, I will update the agenda today | 16:35 |
| charlie-tca | compiz is not needed for xubuntu, they should use the built in compositor. If they really want Unity, they should stay with Ubuntu | 16:35 |
| GridCube | unity =/= compiz | 16:36 |
| charlie-tca | emerald has not been in development for a long time already | 16:36 |
| GridCube | i don't know | 16:36 |
| charlie-tca | Yes, unity means using compiz, and the work on compiz is designed now to enhance unity | 16:36 |
| GridCube | oh i see | 16:36 |
| GridCube | well people want to use compiz whit xubuntu | 16:37 |
| charlie-tca | yes, and then they complain about how slow it is, or how bad the video is, etc | 16:37 |
| GridCube | :P | 16:37 |
| GridCube | well you take the bad whit the good (or however its said on engresh) | 16:38 |
| charlie-tca | NO, they only want the good, and want help getting it to work the way they want it to | 16:39 |
| charlie-tca | A good example right there... (#xubuntu) | 16:41 |
| GridCube | charlie-tca, im doing today's test | 16:42 |
| charlie-tca | Great! | 16:42 |
| GridCube | want me to do an encrypted or standard install? | 16:42 |
| charlie-tca | either one is fine | 16:43 |
| astraljava | Hey gang, who's doing what? I can do two tests tonight still. | 18:38 |
| GridCube | im doing alternate full | 18:38 |
| GridCube | auto resize | 18:38 |
| astraljava | Okay, I'll use desktop, then. | 18:44 |
| * micahg is busy with other things...DigiNotar and such | 18:48 | |
| olbi | hello | 19:40 |
| olbi | yesterday I had one-conf error, but it was while I was using Ubuntu Software Center | 19:41 |
| charlie-tca | olbi: known bug | 19:56 |
| charlie-tca | a fix is in progress | 19:56 |
| GridCube | yay! if i put the wrong password on lightdm it just stays like that all in purple | 20:05 |
| charlie-tca | you get purple? | 20:06 |
| GridCube | oh... rite it was just taking a lot of time | 20:06 |
| GridCube | pink/purple | 20:06 |
| charlie-tca | mine are blue or pink | 20:06 |
| * charlie-tca is sure it is definitely pink, no mistaking it for purple | 20:06 | |
| GridCube | weeell pink | 20:06 |
| charlie-tca | might depend on your monitor, too | 20:07 |
| astraljava | ubiquity crashing for others on desktop installs? | 20:23 |
| astraljava | Keeps on installing, though. | 20:23 |
| astraljava | Still the extra ; in the plymouth stuff, it seems. | 20:34 |
| astraljava | Oh the pink! The pink! | 20:34 |
| GridCube | not a single crash, no bluetooth yet, rebooting works, update works, pidgin works(?) | 20:37 |
| GridCube | sheet updated | 20:41 |
| astraljava | Oh, this was while installing. | 20:41 |
| astraljava | Apparently, when you think about it, you don't use ubiquity at other times. ;p | 20:42 |
| GridCube | not knowing what ubiquity is i concur | 20:43 |
| astraljava | It's the piece that does the live installer stuff. | 20:46 |
| GridCube | oh | 20:46 |
| GridCube | :) then you dont need it later XD | 20:47 |
| astraljava | Yep. :) | 20:47 |
| astraljava | Oops. No divider for installing alongside of an existing system. | 20:48 |
| charlie-tca | It has a minimum space requirement, if the existing partition is smaller than the minimum, it won't let you do it. | 21:11 |
| charlie-tca | Although, you may still be able to do a manual partitioning and install | 21:11 |
| astraljava | charlie-tca: Oh? That's not the auto-resize thingie? | 21:13 |
| charlie-tca | yup | 21:14 |
| charlie-tca | If the minimum size of the existing partition is too small, autosize will not work | 21:14 |
| charlie-tca | sounds like a bug | 21:15 |
| astraljava | It's an 80GB hard disk with only one entire-disk installation prior to this. | 21:15 |
| astraljava | Uh oh. Now ubiquity crashed on me again, and when I tried to report the problem, I was notified I have an obsolete version of upstart. | 21:20 |
| astraljava | Possibly the issue I'm seeing is collateral? | 21:21 |
| astraljava | LP bug 841365 | 21:26 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 841365 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "No divider for space allocation in Xubuntu oneiric "alongside" installation" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/841365 | 21:26 |
| charlie-tca | Thanks | 21:27 |
| astraljava | Am I using the wrong sheet for tracking the testing? I'm not seeing GridCube's report for today. | 21:29 |
| astraljava | http://tinyurl.com/3l9knhm | 21:30 |
| astraljava | Hmm... what's this pad.lv thingie? | 21:31 |
| astraljava | Coolness. | 21:32 |
| knome | hey astraljava | 21:34 |
| astraljava | Moikka Pasi. :) | 21:43 |
| knome | woo, finnish | 21:46 |
| knome | :P | 21:46 |
| * knome needs to choose a new ringtone since the nokia tune is embarrassing | 21:48 | |
| astraljava | A nokia whatever is embarrassing these days. :) | 21:49 |
| knome | heh | 21:49 |
| knome | as long as i can call and send sms's... | 21:49 |
| astraljava | ...you could be using any friggin' phone. Exactly. :D | 21:50 |
| knome | true too | 21:50 |
| knome | but if i'd buy something else, that'd need to be android, and then i'd want a HTC, and if i'd buy a HTC, then it would need to be some model that is >400e | 21:51 |
| knome | buying a very basic nokia is cheaper than that | 21:51 |
| astraljava | Yep, and I must admit, in some cases, I'm pretty disappointed with the androids. | 21:51 |
| knome | yep, that is one of the most biggest things that's stopping me from buying an android | 21:52 |
| astraljava | And if I'm truly honest, I'd have wanted the N9, had it had a physical qwerty. | 21:52 |
| knome | heh | 21:52 |
| knome | oh, i have one more requirement for a phone | 21:52 |
| knome | it must not be iphone | 21:52 |
| astraljava | ^5 | 21:52 |
| knome | comparing to that, nokia is fine | 21:53 |
| knome | i have 2730 classic | 21:53 |
| knome | and even that is a bit too "modern" for me, ironically | 21:53 |
| astraljava | I like to play with them, but admittedly I hardly ever utilize their full potential. | 22:04 |
| charlie-tca | astraljava: pad.lv is a shortcut to https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/??? | 22:10 |
| charlie-tca | instead, you can use http://pad.lv/??? | 22:10 |
| charlie-tca | upstart out of date should not affect the partitioner | 22:11 |
| astraljava | charlie-tca: Yup, found out about it, and updated the sheet as well. | 22:19 |
| astraljava | charlie-tca: Well, mentioned it in there anyhow. If I have time in the coming days, I'll look into the logs more deeply. | 22:19 |
| charlie-tca | okay | 22:20 |
| micahg | hi charlie-tca | 22:44 |
| charlie-tca | Hello, micahg | 22:54 |
| micahg | mr_pouit: I'm a little busy this week, but will try to get some of the build hardening just done in Debian into oneiric before release | 22:54 |
| micahg | charlie-tca: I had something to tell you but I can't remember | 22:54 |
| charlie-tca | mr_pouit: we do not have any way to add network printers in oneiric | 22:54 |
| * micahg was wondering why his printer didn't work | 22:55 | |
| charlie-tca | They changed the thing in Settings Manager -> Printing, and you get to choose whether to use cups or bsd type printers, but you can not add any printer, that I can find. | 22:56 |
| charlie-tca | I don't think you can even add a local printer now | 22:56 |
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