[00:00] <ScottK> Your thought it probably a good one though ...
[00:00] <BarkingFish> Yep.
[00:01] <BarkingFish> I've got 160 in the laptop, 500GB external, plus a spare 360GB external which is currently empty since I don't have anymore sockets to attach it to :)
[00:01] <BarkingFish> and I'll be danged if I'm gonna use a hub. Those things are about as stable as charles manson
[00:01] <ScottK> This looks like a tough one.
[00:02] <ScottK> Upstream code is untouched in years http://gizmod.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/gizmod/gizmod3/
[00:02] <BarkingFish> I'll pull the code along with you, and we'll have a shot at fixing it.
[00:02] <BarkingFish> I'm off work after tomorrow for a week, I've got nothing else to do
[00:03] <ScottK> The package is not in Debian (since we're a Debian derivative, often they will have fixed stuff like this already)
[00:04] <BarkingFish> So what's stopping us from fixing it up?
[00:04] <BarkingFish> :)
[00:05] <ScottK> Nothing.
[00:05] <ScottK> size_t is in stddef.h
[00:08] <ScottK> BarkingFish: So if we add stddef.h to the includes, that might help.
[00:08] <BarkingFish> yep
[00:08] <BarkingFish> I'm just untarring the code
[00:08] <ScottK> Each release of GCC gets pickier about what assumptions is made in the code.
[00:09] <ScottK> So this is probably something that's related to using a newer GCC than when this was developed.
[00:11] <ScottK> BarkingFish: Progress http://paste.debian.net/128430/
[00:12] <BarkingFish> righty ho. It's still missing the size_t from DynamicBuffer.hpp though
[00:13] <ScottK> Yep.
[00:13] <ScottK> Next we run into boost porting issues.
[00:13] <ScottK> /home/gizmod-3.4/libGizmod/Processes.cpp:157:27: error: 'class boost::filesystem3::directory_entry' has no member named 'string'
[00:17] <BarkingFish> 0.0
[00:18] <ScottK> Google turns up some similar errors.
[00:19] <BarkingFish> i'm just perusing the code...
[00:21] <BarkingFish> looks like that's been pulled in from an include
[00:21] <ScottK> The last time this package was built was with boost1.42 and we're on boost1.46 now, so I'm sure it's an API change in boost.
[00:22] <ScottK> http://paste.debian.net/128432/ - is the patch from mapnik-viewer to get it to build with the newer API.
[00:22] <ScottK> Obviously not directly applicable, but illustrative.
[00:25] <BarkingFish> looks like I need to do some updating, I haven't got any of boost's headers 
[00:27] <ScottK> apt-get build-dep gizmod will get you all the packages you need.
[00:27] <ScottK> Unfortunately if you're on natty you'll get boost1.42 and not 1.46.
[00:27] <ScottK> This is one of those cases you could use pbuilder-dist oneiric login to work in a oneiric environment.
[00:29] <ScottK> micahg: If you could include a sentence about why we want to do the sync in Bug 840829 and not just why you think it needs an FFe, that'd be nice.
[00:30] <BarkingFish> ScottK, ok, well I've already started getting 1.42 now...
[00:30] <BarkingFish> i'll login to oneiric in a moment and pull 1.46 off
[00:31] <ScottK> So this is, obviously, not Kubuntu specific work, but all of the Ubuntu variants share a common archive.
[00:31] <ScottK> We're in the phase of the release where we want to get everything cleaned up and as many bugs as possible fixed.
[00:31] <ScottK> One goal is to make sure all the packages can be built with the current libs in the release.
[00:33] <OffToHades> sorry about that ScottK - I got disconnected for some reason.
[00:35] <ScottK> OK BarkingFish.  What's the last thing you got from me?
 So this is, obviously, not Kubuntu specific work, but all of the Ubuntu variants share a common archive.
[00:36] <ScottK> [20:31:27] <ScottK> We're in the phase of the release where we want to get everything cleaned up and as many bugs as possible fixed.
[00:36] <ScottK> [20:31:45] <ScottK> One goal is to make sure all the packages can be built with the current libs in the release.
[00:36] <BarkingFish> ok
[00:36] <BarkingFish> I'm having issues with the oneiric login atm
[00:36] <vddlogger> shadeslayer: no, we do not have to change the script we have to fix the flipping upstream sources manually and get the fix in for 4.7.2 and then shitstorm all over kde for breaking stuff all the time
[00:36] <ScottK> I'm going to need to run off soon, but if you can keep beating on this until you can get it to build, then I can help you convert this into a proper package update and get it in the archive.
[00:37] <BarkingFish> It only wants to log me in as root, and tells me when I try to apt-get build-dep gizmod that I need to add some sources
[00:37] <ScottK> BarkingFish: Yes, it's a very minimal chroot.
[00:37] <BarkingFish> I'm going to bed soon, ScottK - I'm at work in 7 hours :)
[00:37] <BarkingFish> I'll crack on with this tomorrow after I get home from work at about 4pm UTC
[00:37] <ScottK> So apt-get install vim and the vim /etc/apt/sources.list and uncomment the deb-src entry and then apt-get udpate
[00:37] <vddlogger> DarkwingDuck, ryanakca: go and deploy the new wiki theme... though a rollout of similar website theme would seem sensible... you might want to ask sysadmins if that is possible etc though
[00:37] <BarkingFish> ok
[00:37] <ScottK> s/udpate/update
[00:38] <ScottK> It's normal when logged into a chroot to be root.
[00:38] <BarkingFish> Will do.  In the mean time, I need to go get some sleep if I'm going to be fit for work. 
[00:38] <ScottK> It's the chroot's root, not the systems.
[00:38] <BarkingFish> I could call in a sicky I suppose :P
[00:38] <ScottK> OK.  Have a good night.
[00:38] <BarkingFish> ok
[00:38] <ScottK> Nah, save that for later when you're more involved.
[00:38] <BarkingFish> See you tomorrow evening, I'll let you know how I get on
[00:38] <vddlogger> BarkingFish: I'll unfortunately not have time until tuesday at earliest, feel free to hit me, though I might not be actually useful until wendsday ;)
[00:39] <ScottK> Great.
[00:39] <BarkingFish> no prob vddlogger - I'll see you then, I'm off all week after tomorrow's shift
[00:39] <BarkingFish> *today's shift
[00:39] <BarkingFish> see ya, have a good night/morning/whatever it is
[00:39] <BarkingFish> :)
[00:40] <vddlogger> on a related note, vlc dev days are over
[00:40] <parislogger> there we go
[00:40] <parislogger> tomorrow we are going to visit the love apparently
[01:51] <micahg> ScottK: sure, there's an RC bug, but I"ll comment in the bug about it
[01:57] <micahg> ScottK: actually, I'm going to close the bug, apparently we don't have the issue, it can wait, I thought I test built the current version before but can't find the record, nor anything in the rebuild
[02:29] <DarkwingDuck> parislogger, A new website theme to match is in the works.
[03:18] <ScottK> micahg: OK.  Thanks for double checking.
[03:20] <micahg> ScottK: BTW, gnash uploaded, so one less boost dep down
[03:20] <ScottK> Cool. Thanks.
[03:59] <markey> parislogger: who are you going to marry?
[04:01] <markey> mysterious... ;)
[04:03] <markey> morning, btw
[08:07] <Quintasan> ScottK: Thanks for tutoring BarkingFish.
[08:08] <Quintasan> Good to have another packager onboard.
[08:23] <didrocks> debfx: hey, have a small quesiton, seems that in Qt 4.7.4, there is not anymore any /usr/lib/qt4/plugins/qmltooling/libtcpserver.so
[08:23] <didrocks> debfx: did you make some tweaks for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qt4-x11/+bug/754942/comments/1 ?
[08:51] <bambee> morning
[10:09] <debfx> didrocks: no, I just noticed that libtcpserver is already in the package
[10:10] <didrocks> debfx: hum, it's not aymore with 4.7.4 :/
[10:10] <didrocks> and I don't find a commit ref for that
[10:10] <didrocks> neither any news in the changes-4.7.4
[10:17] <debfx> hm, gitorious times out as usual
[10:26] <debfx> didrocks: looks like it has been renamed to libqmldbg_tcp
[10:27] <didrocks> debfx: oh? how did you spot it?
[10:27] <debfx> I downloaded the diff from your ppa upload
[10:28] <didrocks> debfx: ah ok, I think you found the magical commit or whatever :)
[10:28] <didrocks> debfx: ok, looks good then, thanks for looking at it! :)
[10:29] <debfx> nope, gitorious fails and I don't feel like cloning the repository
[10:34] <debfx> didrocks: https://qt.gitorious.org/qt/qt/commit/9ed28d039da0f3745ca84203efa92203f31e97e7
[10:34] <debfx> at least google work reliably :)
[10:34] <didrocks> debfx: heh, indeed :-) thanks a lot for your investigation! :)
[11:02] <milian> where can I get qt 4.7.4 for ubuntu 11.04?
[11:19] <bulldog98_work> !find qt
[11:24] <bulldog98_work> milian: haven´t found that in natty
[11:40] <milian> bulldog98_work: :-/
[13:07] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: ping
[13:07] <Quintasan> rbelem: ping
[13:10] <bulldog98_work> milian: think about upgrading to the latest an best Kubuntu Version ;-)
[13:10] <milian> bulldog98_work: I need to work hence need a stable system
[13:11] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: ssup
[13:13]  * shadeslayer was just watching Air Force One for the umpteenth time
[13:13] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: Do you has my mobile numberz
[13:13] <Quintasan> ?
[13:13] <shadeslayer> uh .. no
[13:14] <shadeslayer> parislogger: i be scared of kde-devel@kde.rog
[13:14] <shadeslayer> s/rog/org
[13:14] <Quintasan> since yofel is on holidays Id want someone to let me know when there is new shipment of hp touchpads
[13:14] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: its going to be a couple of weeks
[13:15] <shadeslayer> like ... atleast 3-4 
[13:15] <Quintasan> brrr
[13:15] <Quintasan> k
[13:15] <Quintasan> I has monies saved soley for the purpose of buying that
[13:15]  * Quintasan goes back to homework
[13:15] <shadeslayer> hehe :D
[13:15] <Quintasan> I ain't even buying school textbooks to buy that :P
[13:16] <shadeslayer> lawl
[13:16] <bulldog98_work> milian: it will be stable in around a month
[13:17] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: i'm kinda out of steam about the device
[13:17] <shadeslayer> started to have second thoughts ... :P
[13:17] <milian> bulldog98_work: and even there it seems stuck at 4.7.3
[13:17] <milian> what a mess
[13:17] <shadeslayer> and it would probably help if someone in here knew someone in HP so that we get devices for testing
[13:35]  * debfx wonders what's so important about qt 4.7.4
[13:38] <shadeslayer> bulldog98_work: are all your branches ready for merging?
[14:08] <CIA-89> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/parley] Rohan Garg * 17 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release
[14:16] <rbelem> Quintasan, pong
[14:16] <bulldog98_> shadeslayer: yes
[14:17] <shadeslayer> yep, looking at them right now
[14:17] <Quintasan> rbelem: Ill be uploading stuff shortly
[14:18] <rbelem> Quintasan, awesome :)
[14:18] <CIA-89> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kstars] Rohan Garg * 5 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release
[14:18] <rbelem> Quintasan, i commited yesterday a small fix to runtime
[14:19] <rbelem> and i got kubuntu mobile running
[14:19] <rbelem> on tje lenovo ideapad
[14:20] <Quintasan> rbelem: you commited directly to the packaging branch or we need to merge it
[14:20] <Quintasan> ?
[14:21] <rbelem> Quintasan, i think we can upload contour now, since it is beta quality now
[14:21] <rbelem> Quintasan, to the pkg branch
[14:26] <rbelem> Quintasan, may i get countour ready to upload?
[14:26] <Quintasan> rbelem: I'm still against uploading it to repos
[14:26] <Quintasan> keep this in a PPA ffs
[14:26] <Quintasan> you can update it as often as you wish there
[14:27] <Quintasan> but that's only me
[14:27] <rbelem> oki
[14:27] <Quintasan> You'd better ask ScottK though
[14:28]  * rbelem pokes ScottK 
[14:43] <shadeslayer> bulldog98: you haven't bumped kde-sc-dev-latest in qtruby
[14:44] <shadeslayer> ah ... no such package
[14:44] <shadeslayer> in build depends ... which is weird
[14:44] <CIA-89> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/qtruby] Rohan Garg * 8 * debian/changelog New upstream release
[14:44] <bulldog98> shadeslayer: qtruby says the name I guess? parislogger?
[14:45] <bulldog98> that’s why I haven’t added it
[14:45] <shadeslayer> hmm .. probably
[14:45] <shadeslayer> i've never looked at its packaging before, which is why i was a bit surprised
[14:48] <Mamarok> I was just wondering: no announcement for Amarok 2.4.3 in http://kubuntu.org, but it is in Oneiric. Any backports to Natty?
[14:48] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: i can backport it, have some free time
[14:49] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: that was more a question about why there is no announcement
[14:50] <shadeslayer> well ... i don't have the credentials to login anymore
[14:50] <Mamarok> but if there are indeed no backports for Natty yet it would be nice to have
[14:50] <Mamarok> ScottK: ^
[14:50] <shadeslayer> nope ... no backports for natty
[14:53] <shadeslayer> bulldog98: please update the wiki
[14:54] <bulldog98> shadeslayer: can you merge kletters manually, cause lp goes oops when I try to propose a merge for it
[14:54] <shadeslayer> alright
[14:56] <bulldog98> shadeslayer: and you haven’t merged rocs, have you?
[14:56] <shadeslayer> i ... don't remember doing that
[14:56] <shadeslayer> nope
[14:56] <bambee> parislogger: Does it make sense to disable everything in davros ?
[14:56] <dpm> hey Kubuntu devs, we've got a last-minute free slot on today's Ubuntu App Developer Week schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuAppDeveloperWeek/Timetable - it'd be great to have KDE/Qt representation. Would anyone be up for a session on developing in Kubuntu, or KDE, or with Qt... ?
[14:57] <bambee> everything = warnings, errors, fatals, and debug
[14:57] <shadeslayer> dpm: parislogger would be the ideal guy imo
[14:57] <shadeslayer> bulldog98: yer branch is named wrong i think
[14:58] <bambee> parislogger: I would like to change DebugLevel to QtMsgType (which does not have a debugnone)
[14:58] <shadeslayer> parislogger: ~bulldog98/kubuntu-packaging/kletters -> ~bulldog98/kubuntu-packaging/klettres
[14:58] <shadeslayer> plz fix
[14:58] <shadeslayer> oops
[14:58] <shadeslayer> bulldog98: ^
[14:58] <bulldog98> shadeslayer: made to many branches so,
[14:59] <shadeslayer> hehe :)
[14:59] <shadeslayer> let me know when you've fixed that
[14:59] <bulldog98> shadeslayer: I hope we can fix that
[15:00] <shadeslayer> bulldog98: yeah, just push your branch again to lp:~bulldog98/kubuntu-packaging/klettres
[15:00] <shadeslayer> and i'll merge it
[15:00]  * shadeslayer is looking at recruiting new people for kubuntu
[15:01] <bulldog98> shadeslayer: pushed
[15:02] <CIA-89> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/klettres] Rohan Garg * 9 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release
[15:02] <shadeslayer> ^^
[15:02]  * bulldog98 is trying to convince mac people
[15:02] <bulldog98> that kubuntu is better :)
[15:02] <shadeslayer> bulldog98: uh .. do you want a fair opinion on that matter?
[15:02] <shadeslayer> mac vs kubuntu?
[15:03] <bulldog98> shadeslayer: I can’t really get along with mac
[15:03] <bulldog98> I mean I can work with that but I feel, that there is something missing. (KDE)
[15:03] <shadeslayer> bulldog98: i just left my macbook pro running OS X on sleep for the entire day .. it consumed just 5% of the battery
[15:03] <shadeslayer> try that with kubuntu :P
[15:04] <bulldog98> shadeslayer: they can only do that, cause they know on exactly which hardware they’ll run :P
[15:04] <shadeslayer> idk how they do it, but whatever magic they do, it works (tm)
[15:04] <shadeslayer> bulldog98: agreed, but you simply can't do that on kubuntu
[15:04] <shadeslayer> thats all i'm saying
[15:05] <bulldog98> shadeslayer: you could get the same, if you would by nearly 5% of the kernel hackers your hardware :P
[15:05] <shadeslayer> i wish i had that kind of money
[15:05]  * bulldog98 too
[15:05] <shadeslayer> i'd buy each and every kernel hacker awesome hardware
[15:05] <shadeslayer> and tell them to get cracking
[15:06] <shadeslayer> jjesse: there's a oh-my-zsh theme named after you, did you make that?
[15:06] <bulldog98> shadeslayer: fun is Intel and Amd do that (in limeted amount)
[15:06] <bulldog98> shadeslayer: do you really use oh-my-zsh?
[15:06]  * bulldog98 has a costum one
[15:06] <shadeslayer> true, i've heard AMD is giving more <3 to open source software now
[15:07] <shadeslayer> bulldog98: again, it gets the job done
[15:07]  * shadeslayer likes software that gets the job doe
[15:07] <shadeslayer> s/doe/done/
[15:07] <kubotu> shadeslayer meant: "likes software that gets the job done"
[15:07] <bulldog98> shadeslayer: have a look to my repro kde:sratch/kolberg/zsh-folder
[15:08] <shadeslayer> bulldog98: when using the git plugin, my hard disk goes crazy when i enter the kdelibs checkout
[15:08] <bulldog98> shadeslayer: mine does with bzr :P
[15:10]  * bulldog98 has more than dobled his karma in 2 days
[15:10]  * bulldog98 needs to do that more often :)
[15:13] <ScottK> Mamarok: Maybe ryanakca will have time to put up an announcement.  I'm not feeling well today.
[15:16] <bulldog98> shadeslayer: what should be the first day I put into a Kubuntu Developer Meeting doodle? one week ahead or two?
[15:17] <shadeslayer> wait what
[15:17] <shadeslayer> bulldog98: i don't understand the question
[15:17] <bulldog98> shadeslayer: I want to doodle for a meeting
[15:17] <bulldog98> shadeslayer: what should be the first entry if I send out a mail today(TM)
[15:18] <shadeslayer> bulldog98: ok, what the agenda is all about
[15:18] <bulldog98> shadeslayer: becoming a member
[15:18] <shadeslayer> alright
[15:19] <shadeslayer> first entry would be something like "Kubuntu Meeting"
[15:19] <shadeslayer> and then second would be the main agenda
[15:19]  * shadeslayer is thinking whether or not to apply for developer status
[15:21] <ScottK> Oooh.  Nice.  The author of https://www.ubersoft.net/ is a Kubuntu user.
[15:22] <ScottK> shadeslayer: Did an existing developer tell you that you should apply?
[15:22] <ScottK> (hint: this should help answer that question)
[15:26] <shadeslayer> nope, i guess that pretty much answers it :P
[15:29] <shadeslayer> debfx: pign
[15:30] <shadeslayer> erm .. ping
[15:32] <debfx> pong-in-response-to-contentless-ping
[15:32] <shadeslayer> debfx: i was looking at amarok and i see a bunch of not installed files
[15:32] <shadeslayer> a couple of them are dbus servers
[15:32] <shadeslayer> s/servers/interfaces/
[15:32] <kubotu> shadeslayer meant: "a couple of them are dbus interfaces"
[15:33] <shadeslayer> is that intentional?
[15:33] <shadeslayer> http://paste.kde.org/118405/ << entire list-missing output
[15:34] <debfx> yes
[15:34] <shadeslayer> uh .. why? :)
[15:36] <debfx> it's clearly wrong to install interface files with generic names like org.freedesktop.MediaPlayer.player.xml, that would lead to file conflicts
[15:37] <debfx> we could install the other ones but afaik they are not really useful
[15:37] <shadeslayer> alright, but what about usr/share/dbus-1/interfaces/org.kde.amarok.App.xml  and the likes?
[15:37] <shadeslayer> hmm .. i wonder what the org.kde.amarok.Mpris2Extensions.Player.xml does ...
[15:38] <bulldog98> shadeslayer: providing the Mpris2 Player interface
[15:38] <shadeslayer> bulldog98: don't think so .. more like ..extending it somehow
[15:38] <bulldog98> it’s a generic dbus interface for media players
[15:39] <shadeslayer> yep, i know what it is, i've used it before ;)
[15:44] <shadeslayer> -./usr/share/dbus-1/interfaces/org.kde.amarok.Collection.xml is deprecated, so thats fine
[15:45] <shadeslayer> bbiab
[15:49] <debfx> amarok will still provide those dbus interfaces even if we don't install the interface files
[15:49] <debfx> afaik they are only useful for language bindings
[15:53] <shadeslayer> right ...
[16:10] <shadeslayer> question, can we still get a brand new pacakge into the archive?
[16:18] <Quintasan> We can if you bribe someone to get it accepted
[16:18] <Quintasan> that reminds me I need to bribe ScottK to accept ne libs and runtime upload
[16:18] <Quintasan> wait
[16:19] <Quintasan> Shouldn't we rollout 4.7.1 to oneiric?
[16:19] <shadeslayer> did someone test it?
[16:19] <Quintasan> I'm running it
[16:19] <bulldog98> Quintasan: it’s not offically released yet, is it?
[16:19] <Quintasan> no problems so far
[16:19] <shadeslayer> bulldog98: it is
[16:20] <bulldog98> shadeslayer: I’m downloading it atm
[16:20] <bulldog98> shadeslayer: ok
[16:20] <bulldog98> Quintasan: roll out
[16:20] <shadeslayer> well .. if everything works ... 
[16:21] <debfx> shadeslayer: 4.7.1 isn't released yet
[16:22] <shadeslayer> debfx: uh .. i saw a email on the kde-devel mailing list
[16:22] <shadeslayer> gah
[16:22] <shadeslayer> i read 4.8 as 4.7.1 in class
[16:23] <shadeslayer> i need to be kicked -.-
[16:24]  * Quintasan kicks shadeslayer
[16:24] <Quintasan> There you go
[16:24] <shadeslayer> thanks :P
[16:24] <Quintasan> BarkingFish: Hey, hey, we've got someone who wants to get hit ^
[16:25] <BarkingFish> Quintasan, I'm doing some work at the moment on trying to fix a package which is refusing to build
[16:25] <Quintasan> How's it going?
[16:26] <Quintasan> You can ask me or shadeslayer since I'm just testing KDE atm
[16:26] <BarkingFish> I was talking with Scott about it last night, we're trying to package gizmod for oneiric, but there's been some code changes within the API, and it won't build
[16:26] <Quintasan> brrr
[16:27] <BarkingFish> the biggest problem is updating the code, since it uses boost - the last version was 1.4.2, and if we're building it for oneiric, we need to port that to 1.4.6
[16:29] <BarkingFish> anyway, nose back to the grindstone
[16:33] <bulldog98> guys take the git survey: https://git.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/GitSurvey2011
[16:43] <bulldog98> shadeslayer: btw parislogger put the translation into oneiric
[16:43] <bulldog98> :)
[16:43] <shadeslayer> \o/
[16:43] <shadeslayer> plz2update wiki
[16:44] <bulldog98> shadeslayer: I think so, cause I got kde-i18n-de and eo on my laptop
[16:44] <bulldog98> shadeslayer: thats Haralds job
[16:44] <bulldog98> :P
[16:45] <shadeslayer> true that
[16:46] <bulldog98> and I checked apt-cache policy
[16:47]  * shadeslayer waves fist at nepomuk
[16:51] <bulldog98> shadeslayer: yeah sometimes nepomuk sucks, but only because of that shity messages, users don’t want to see that, that’s the problem of akonadi, too
[16:56] <bulldog98> shadeslayer: so my message is out
[17:02] <bulldog98> Riddell’s talk is starting
[17:04] <shadeslayer> where
[17:04] <shadeslayer> ah nvm
[17:14] <BarkingFish> hi guys, just a quick question - how do you regenerate a dsc file when you change the code in a package?
[17:14] <BarkingFish> i've done some work, but now the sha checksums and filesizes in the dsc don't match the size of the original tar.gz file with the code in
[17:15] <LaserJock> you can run debuild -S
[17:16] <BarkingFish> against the tar.gz, LaserJock?
[17:16] <BarkingFish> or on its own?
[17:16] <LaserJock> on it's own, in the root directory of the package
[17:16] <LaserJock> i.e. the level above the debian/
[17:16] <BarkingFish> ah, on
[17:16] <BarkingFish> *ok
[17:17] <LaserJock> it should find the orig.tar.gz in ../
[17:19] <bulldog98> BarkingFish: debuild -S -sa
[17:21] <LaserJock> yeah, the -sa will be needed it it's a new package or a new upstream tarball of an existing package
[17:28] <BarkingFish> ok this is now officially weird.
[17:28] <BarkingFish> I've pulled the source for the file I want, but I can't run debuild -S -sa against it, it presents a fatal error and says "Are you in the source code tree?"
[17:29] <BarkingFish> I'm in the same place all the other files go to when I do pull-lp-source
[17:29] <BarkingFish> *pull-lp-sources
[17:29] <shadeslayer> BarkingFish: what does your file structure look like currently?
[17:31] <BarkingFish> Hard to say really.  All I know is when I do pull-lp-sources gizmod  I get 3 files and none of them look like what I'm expecting
[17:32] <BarkingFish> aha
[17:32] <BarkingFish> it's sort of looking right now. Back in a tick
[17:33] <bulldog98> BarkingFish: you have to cd into the PACKAGENAME-VERSION dir
[17:34] <BarkingFish> yeah, I did that the first couple of times and they were comprised of 2 unextracted .tar.gz files and a .dsc
[17:34] <BarkingFish> nothing had actually extracted
[17:39] <BarkingFish> the package is running through debuild but still refusing to finish, because someone's key is not available to sign it.  Which file do I change to get it to clearsign with my key?
[17:40] <bulldog98> BarkingFish: debian/changelog
[17:40] <BarkingFish> ok
[17:40] <BarkingFish> cheers
[17:40] <bulldog98> BarkingFish: use dch -i to write into that
[17:40] <BarkingFish> ok
[17:41] <bulldog98> but change the version to *ubuntu*~ppa1 where * is the number of the last entry
[17:47] <bulldog98> Riddell: can you moderate my mail in kubuntu-devel?
[17:51] <BarkingFish> woohoo!  I managed to sign the dsc and changes files :)
[17:51] <BarkingFish> hallelujah
[18:03] <CIA-89> [lp:~bulldog98/kubuntu-dev-tools/trunk] Jonathan Kolberg * 130 * TODO Updated TODO
[18:14] <shadeslayer> OMG WTF IS WRONG WITH LUNCHPAD
[18:14] <shadeslayer> AAAAAAHHHH
[18:14] <shadeslayer> bulldog98: i'm getting spammed by your merges
[18:14] <bulldog98> shadeslayer: yes I approved them for the list
[18:15] <shadeslayer> list?
[18:15] <bulldog98> shadeslayer: kubuntu-devel
[18:15] <shadeslayer> wtf dude
[18:15] <shadeslayer> @_@
[18:15] <bulldog98> should I have rejected them?
[18:15] <shadeslayer> well .. uh ... its better than spamming everyone at once @_@
[18:16] <bulldog98> shadeslayer: now it’s too late(TM)
[18:16] <shadeslayer> yeah
[18:17] <shadeslayer> http://i.imgur.com/yBmaj.png
[18:17] <bulldog98> shadeslayer: nice :P use kontact
[18:18] <shadeslayer> and get spameed by knotifications
[18:18] <Quintasan> bambee: I think we have touchegg in repos now
[18:19] <bambee> Quintasan: touchegg was already in repos
[18:19] <bambee> do you mean touchegg-gui?
[18:19] <Quintasan> bulldog98: Y U SPAM MY INBOX
[18:19] <tsimpson> shadeslayer: this is why I switched to web-based email
[18:20] <shadeslayer> tsimpson: i think GMail nailed the web based frontend
[18:20] <bulldog98> Quintasan: sorry lauchpad should have sent them at the right time(TM)
[18:20]  * Quintasan goes apreshit
[18:20] <bulldog98> shadeslayer: you can turn them off
[18:21] <bambee> Quintasan: ?
[18:21] <Quintasan> I just got over 9000 merge requests emails
[18:21] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: inorite
[18:21] <Quintasan> bambee: 
[18:21] <Quintasan> [~]% apt-cache search touchegg                                                                                   (quintasan@nightwalker:~)
[18:21] <Quintasan> touchegg - Multitouch gesture recognizer
[18:21] <Quintasan> :/
[18:21] <Quintasan> wtf
[18:23] <Quintasan> OHSHI-
[18:23]  * Quintasan forgot to do his physics homework
[18:23] <bambee> Quintasan: it has been approved and pushed in repos one week ago (or two... whatever)
[18:24] <Quintasan> bambee: What's with the forwarded email the?
[18:24]  * bulldog98 should configure his configuration for kubuntu-devel ML
[18:24] <bulldog98> Quintasan: can have been more than around 70
[18:25] <bambee> Quintasan: are you talking about the email sent to kubuntu-devel?
[18:25] <Quintasan> bambee: Yes
[18:25] <bambee> well, it's a new release includings bugsfixes
[18:25] <BarkingFish> i'm sure I'm doing this right, but something is not working here.
[18:25] <Quintasan> bambee: Ask ScottK
[18:25]  * bulldog98 takes all the resposibility and will give guys how complian today a beer (next time he sees them
[18:27] <Quintasan> We need a sensible policy on what the fuck is being sent to us
[18:27] <BarkingFish> I updated the code, altered the changelog, ran debuild -S -sa and signed it.  Then I rebuilt the tar.gz using the changed code, and went to pbuilder-dist oneiric gizmod_3.4-0ubuntu5.dsc
[18:28] <bambee> personnally, I prefer ask ScottK about touchegg-gui :)
[18:28] <BarkingFish> which doesn't like the file, apparently
[18:28] <BarkingFish> dpkg-source: error: File ./gizmod_3.4.orig.tar.gz has size 141401 instead of expected 133749
[18:28] <BarkingFish> and that's after regenerating the dsc with all the correct data in it
[18:28] <Quintasan> argh
[18:28] <Quintasan> BarkingFish: Changes to the code must be made as a patch
[18:29] <Quintasan> I didn't tell you that, did I?
[18:29] <BarkingFish> no
[18:29] <BarkingFish> if you had, i wouldn't have done it
[18:29] <BarkingFish> :)
[18:29] <Quintasan> BarkingFish: Okay, copy over the files you modfied somewhere
[18:29] <BarkingFish> you explained about patches and the order they got applied in, but not that I couldn't explicitly alter the code
[18:29] <BarkingFish> :)
[18:30] <BarkingFish> you just want the two files I changed?
[18:30] <BarkingFish> I'll pastebin them up for you
[18:30] <Quintasan> no no no
[18:30] <Quintasan> don't paste em
[18:30] <Quintasan> just copy em somewhere from the source directory
[18:30] <Quintasan> only the files you modfied
[18:31]  * BarkingFish is developing a headache. It's called Gizmod :)
[18:31] <bulldog98> Quintasan: your merge requests are in query too
[18:31] <Quintasan> reject them
[18:31] <Quintasan> BarkingFish: done?
[18:32] <BarkingFish> yep
[18:32] <bulldog98> Quintasan: done
[18:33] <bulldog98> Quintasan: you should add an account for your @kubuntu.org and set it to send no mail
[18:33] <Quintasan> BarkingFish: Now then, delete the modfied source directory and extract the orginal one (with no modifications
[18:33] <Quintasan> bulldog98: What, where?
[18:33] <bulldog98> shadeslayer: here are some of yours too
[18:33] <shadeslayer> what
[18:33] <bulldog98> Quintasan: sing up with your @kubuntu and then settings uncheck recieve mail
[18:34] <shadeslayer> bulldog98: some emails from rohangarg @ kubuntu ?
[18:34] <bulldog98> @ubuntu
[18:34] <Quintasan> BarkingFish: then cd to the source tree
[18:34] <bulldog98> rbelem: you have mails there too
[18:34] <Quintasan> ln -s debian/patches patches
[18:34] <shadeslayer> bulldog98: are they ... important?
[18:34] <Quintasan> quilt push -a
[18:34] <Quintasan> quilt new <patch name>
[18:34] <BarkingFish> Quintasan, 
[18:34] <shadeslayer> if not, trash them
[18:34] <shadeslayer> use your discretion
[18:34] <BarkingFish> be with you in a sec
[18:34] <Quintasan> Okay
[18:35] <bulldog98> shadeslayer: they should go to the list, as I said to Quintasan add an account for that and turn of mail recieve
[18:37] <Quintasan> Where did you find that option?
[18:37] <shadeslayer> i can't find that option myself
[18:37] <bulldog98> Quintasan: first of the options
[18:37] <Quintasan> but where?
[18:38] <bulldog98> Quintasan: login into the https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-devel 
[18:39] <BarkingFish> Quintasan, that now tells me that patch 04_ftbfs_oneiric.patch is now on top
[18:39] <Quintasan> Cool
[18:39] <Quintasan> now
[18:39] <Quintasan> quilt new <name of the patch> <-- the patch name should generally tell others what it's supposed to fix
[18:40] <BarkingFish> i did that already
[18:40] <BarkingFish> that's what gave me the result I showed you
[18:40] <Quintasan> Okay
[18:40] <Quintasan> Then
[18:41] <Quintasan> quilt add path/to/the/file/you/want/to/modify
[18:41] <Quintasan> you can add multiple files at once
[18:41] <BarkingFish> when I did the quilt push -a it said "no patches in series", am I doing this right?
[18:41] <Quintasan> most likely
[18:42] <BarkingFish> i hope so :)
[18:42] <BarkingFish> right, the two files I wanted to modify have been added
[18:42] <Quintasan> now do the changes that you wanted to do
[18:42] <Quintasan> you can copy over those modfied files
[18:43] <BarkingFish> ok
[18:44] <Quintasan> done?
[18:44] <Quintasan> quilt refresh
[18:44] <BarkingFish> yep
[18:44] <Quintasan> quilt pop -a
[18:44] <Quintasan> now you should mention adding a patch in debian/changelog
[18:44] <Quintasan> then you can debuild -S
[18:44] <Quintasan> and pbuild it
[18:45] <BarkingFish> er, dunno about you, but I think that looks a bit wrong :)
[18:46] <BarkingFish> I did the quilt pop -a and got: Removing patch 04_ftbfs_oneiric.patch - Restoring libH/DynamicBuffer.cpp - Restoring libH/Average.cpp
[18:46] <Quintasan> good
[18:46] <BarkingFish> No patches applied
[18:46] <Quintasan> it removed the patches
[18:46] <Quintasan> debuild -S will attempt to apply them again
[18:46] <BarkingFish> aha
[18:46] <BarkingFish> ok
[18:46] <Quintasan> you don't want to reapply applied patches :P
[18:47] <bulldog98> yofel_: either set up a @gmx in kubuntu-devel ML or change your prefered one in lp
[18:47] <BarkingFish> nope- total failure, fatal
[18:47] <BarkingFish> I'll paste the output
[18:48] <BarkingFish> http://paste.ubuntu.com/682776/
[18:49] <Quintasan> ahh
[18:49] <Quintasan> bleh
[18:49] <Quintasan> go do source directory
[18:49] <Quintasan> rm patches
[18:50] <BarkingFish> done
[18:50] <BarkingFish> go again on debuild -S?
[18:50] <Quintasan> ln -s does a symbolic link in case you didnt know
[18:50] <Quintasan> yup
[18:50] <BarkingFish> ok
[18:50] <Quintasan> should work now
[18:50] <Quintasan> if not the move your debian/ out of the source dir
[18:50] <Quintasan> remove the source, unpack it and copy over the debian/ and try again
[18:51] <BarkingFish> bugger it. I forgot to redo the changelog :P
[18:56] <BarkingFish> right, round 6 :)
[18:56] <BarkingFish> building now
[18:59] <Quintasan> BarkingFish: So every time you want to modify upstream source you have to do it like this
[18:59] <Quintasan> >policy
[18:59] <Quintasan> :P
[18:59] <BarkingFish> 0.0
[18:59] <BarkingFish> I take it I also have to apply that patch to the control file, right?
[18:59] <Quintasan> no no no
[18:59] <Quintasan> you can modify debian/* normally
[19:00] <BarkingFish> Well the build went through, but it hasn't worked.
[19:00] <BarkingFish> The changes I made haven't applied to the code
[19:00] <Quintasan> Hmm
[19:00] <Quintasan> Can I see the build log?
[19:00] <BarkingFish> sure
[19:02] <BarkingFish> http://paste.ubuntu.com/682783/
[19:03] <Quintasan> durrr
[19:04] <Quintasan> BarkingFish: Can you upload the debian/ directory and link me to it?
[19:04] <BarkingFish> sure
[19:04] <BarkingFish> give me a few moments
[19:07] <BarkingFish> can't work out how to share the whole folder, I'll tar.gz it and send it that way
[19:10] <BarkingFish> Quintasan, http://www.4shared.com/file/LkxSyv9k/debian.html
[19:10] <BarkingFish> bbiab, got to go get some food
[19:11] <Quintasan> uuh
[19:11] <Quintasan> what the
[19:13] <Quintasan> lol @ patches
[19:13] <Quintasan> every release has it's own ftbfs patch
[19:13] <Quintasan> :DDD
[19:14] <Quintasan> ooooh
[19:14] <Quintasan> I see
[19:14] <Quintasan> !
[19:15] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: ping
[19:16] <shadeslayer> ssup
[19:16] <Quintasan> Since I have to go
[19:16] <shadeslayer> yes?
[19:16] <Quintasan> tell BarkingFish to remove debian/patches/series file
[19:16] <shadeslayer> alright
[19:16] <Quintasan> gizmod it totally out of date and it uses cdbs magic to apply patches
[19:16] <shadeslayer> ouch
[19:16] <Quintasan> once he does that it should work
[19:17] <shadeslayer> alright
[19:17] <Quintasan> See you tomorrow
[19:17] <shadeslayer> cya
[19:17]  * shadeslayer is making tp-kde idiot proof
[19:17] <shadeslayer> BarkingFish: remove the debian/patches/series file
[19:18] <BarkingFish> ok
[19:18] <shadeslayer> BarkingFish: http://paste.kde.org/118537
[19:18] <BarkingFish> wilco
[19:23] <yofel> evening
[19:23] <bulldog98> hi
[19:25] <yofel> bulldog98: huh? I should be subscribed to kubuntu-devel with @gmx
[19:25] <shadeslayer> yofel: aren't you supposed to be on a holiday? :P
[19:26] <BarkingFish> shadeslayer, repeat of the last time, build failed 
[19:27] <shadeslayer> BarkingFish: can i have the log?
[19:27] <BarkingFish> sure
[19:27] <bulldog98> yofel: really then lp does something wrong
[19:27] <bulldog98> yofel: I’ll check that
[19:27] <BarkingFish> shadeslayer, http://paste.ubuntu.com/682796/
[19:28] <bulldog98> yofel: you are right lp does something wrong
[19:28] <BarkingFish> wait a moment
[19:28] <BarkingFish> i know what I did wrong.
[19:28] <BarkingFish> I didn't remove the series file from the tar.gz it's being built against.  I took it out of the source tree.
[19:29] <yofel> shadeslayer: sitting at the balcony at the sea connected to the net, what's strange about that? :P
[19:29] <BarkingFish> ever had one of those days where you wish the floor would open up and just swallow you whole?  If you have, welcome to the club. I'm having one right now.
[19:35] <BarkingFish> you know what, I'm calling it a night for now.  I need to go calm down, and since I have the rest of the week off work, I'll come back tomorrow after a damn good sleep.
[19:36] <BarkingFish> Sorry to have bothered you all tonight, i'm not thinking straight.
[19:36] <BarkingFish> see ya in the morning
[19:37] <shadeslayer> yofel: hahah :D
[19:37] <shadeslayer> yofel: where are you ?
[19:42] <bulldog98> shadeslayer: has my mail about application reached you and the ml?
[19:42] <shadeslayer> no
[19:43] <shadeslayer> nothing yet
[19:43] <bulldog98> mh how slow is mailman?
[19:44] <shadeslayer> ofcourse ... after your merge mail, its taking a break :P
[19:45] <yofel> shadeslayer: crotia - novi vinodolski
[19:45] <yofel> *croatia
[19:47] <shadeslayer> ah
[19:49] <bulldog98> shadeslayer: can you add that to our topic? http://doodle.com/8hh6gkaczp4hbk5d
[19:49] <yofel> bulldog98: topic isn't locked
[19:49] <shadeslayer> ^^
[19:50]  * bulldog98 has to edit the doodle before 
[19:51] <bulldog98> it’s to early (I’m not at home at that time)
[19:53] <yofel> bulldog98: why a kubuntu dev meeting?
[19:53] <bulldog98> yofel: thought that would be the name
[19:53] <debfx> I guess s/dev/council/
[19:54] <yofel> bulldog98: for *what*
[19:54] <bulldog98> yofel: for a meeting where I get approved :)
[19:54] <yofel> bulldog98: as?
[19:54] <bulldog98> yofel: Kubuntu member
[19:54] <yofel> then you need the council as debfx said
[19:55] <yofel> which would then be a regular kubuntu meeting
[19:56]  * bulldog98 is renaming that
[20:02] <bulldog98> kdeutils has a new tarball
[20:02] <shadeslayer> i'm off to sleep
[20:02] <shadeslayer> night guys
[20:04] <bulldog98> shadeslayer: gn
[20:09]  * yofel is off again
[20:11]  * bulldog98 goes to sleep, too
[20:25] <Daskreech> Someone to blame!!
[20:25] <Daskreech> \o/
[20:53] <Daskreech> nixternal: What's up?? :-D
[20:53] <nixternal> nadda
[20:57] <Daskreech> what you been doing?
[20:57] <Daskreech> How's Chicago this fine summer?
[21:00] <nixternal> consulting, riding, and being lazy this summer. been a warm one, but now it is starting to cool down
[21:04] <Daskreech> lazy riding?
[21:04] <Daskreech> Or lazy consulting? :)
[21:06] <nixternal> both
[21:06] <nixternal> a lot of racing this summer
[21:11] <BarkingFish> ScottK, you about?
[21:12] <ScottK> Quintasan: You don't need me to upload libs/runtime now that it won't hit New again.  The archive isn't frozen.
[21:12] <BarkingFish> I think we've got more problems in the code of gizmod than we first thought.  I've just sucked the entire codebase into kdevelop as a CMake project, and a trial compile is presenting some rather interesting errors.
[21:12] <ScottK> bambee and Quintasan: I think updating touchegg and addint touchegg-gui makes sense.
[21:12] <ScottK> BarkingFish: Yes.
[21:13] <bambee> I agree
[21:13] <ScottK> BarkingFish: Given that it hasn't been touched upstream in a couple of years, it may be more trouble than it's worth.
[21:14] <ScottK> BarkingFish: If you're up for giving a go at fixing it, you're welcome to try, but given it's state, I think removal is probably more sensible.
[21:14] <BarkingFish> I'd be inclined to agree there.  I've applied a patch to it to clear up the size_t issues, by adding #include <stddef.h> in a couple of places, and the patch didn't do a dang thing
[21:14] <BarkingFish> all the errors we initially had in the build are still there.  Call it a loss and move on?
[21:16] <ScottK> Sure.
[21:17] <ScottK> BarkingFish: dammit is the next one on my list.
[21:18] <BarkingFish> same as before, just pull it and see if it will build?
[21:21] <ScottK> Yep
[21:22] <BarkingFish> building for oneiric?
[21:22] <ScottK> Yep
[21:22] <BarkingFish> ok, doing now
[21:22] <ScottK> BTW, Bug #770797 is now a request for removal...
[21:23] <ScottK> I'm not feeling well today, so I'm going to go crash for a bit.
[21:24] <BarkingFish> build failed, ScottK - I'll paste up the output and memo you the url
[21:24] <ScottK> OK.
[21:27] <ScottK> Either a missing include or an API change.  Consult with Google.
[21:27] <ScottK> Really off now ...
[21:27] <BarkingFish> ok then, no probs. Take care
[21:33] <BarkingFish> If I want to pass extra commands to the compiler, I can't add those to the pbuilder-dist command, can I?
[22:23] <BarkingFish> mind if I go a bit nuts for a second???
[22:24] <BarkingFish> WOOHOO!!!!
[22:24] <BarkingFish> after a shedload of debugging and picking apart, dammit has built for oneiric.
[22:24] <BarkingFish> :P
[23:56] <ryanakca> Mamarok: What needs announcing?