[00:00] <silverarrow1> have you installed restricteds?
[00:00] <silverarrow1> I think java comes with the restricted packs
[00:00] <silverarrow1> there are two lubuntu ones in package manager
[00:01] <meway> the command to intsall restricted packs would be?
[00:02] <silverarrow1> do you have to do it from terminal?
[00:02] <meway> preferred yes
[00:02] <silverarrow1> sudo apt-get restricted lubuntu?
[00:04] <silverarrow1> no, it would be lubuntu-restricted-extras
[00:04] <silverarrow1> I think that should work
[00:05]  * phillw as always look at the FAQ. if you REALLY need that area of Java, then head over to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ#Some_Java_applications_don.27t_work.2C_I_want_proprietary_Oracle_Java.
[00:05] <meway> nope
[00:05] <silverarrow1> that gives general java runtime environment
[00:06] <meway> bla I will just look it up in the package manager >.<
[00:06] <silverarrow1> the restricted package version works with most stuff like bank, chats, general online java run stuff
[00:06] <meway> this is not helping
[00:07] <meway> there found it that way
[00:08] <silverarrow1> my first suggestion
[00:08] <phillw> meway: that set of instructions where written by devs. Please let me know in what way that you cannot follow them for your system as they obviously have them working on their own systems.
[00:10] <meway> phillw: I refuse to do research when I asked for a command not a list of links and urls
[00:10] <meway> but thanks for pointing me in the correct direction in any case
[00:12] <phillw> meway: before you leave, can I teach you something? All of us are volunteers and do support free of charge. I am biting my tongue on your attitude.
[00:13] <phillw> 10... 9 ... 8.... 7 .... 6..... 5..... 4.... 3..... 2.... 1....
[00:14] <silverarrow1> well, some are more demanding that others
[00:14] <phillw> ;glower | meway
[00:14] <DragonEyes> meway: do you want DragonEyes to test out the kickban function on you :P
[00:14] <meway> I have no attitude I was just simply stating that what you gave me was not what I asked for.
[00:15] <phillw> meway: then go and pay for support?
[00:15] <meway> DragonEyes: I just started using this os 2 days ago thats highly inappropriate.
[00:15] <phillw> Microsoft charge lots of money for it?
[00:15] <meway> phillw: sorry if I have offended you
[00:16] <phillw> DragonEyes: say hello to meway
[00:16] <DragonEyes> phillw: "hello to meway"
[00:16] <meway> interesting :)
[00:16] <phillw> meway: pop onto #lubuntu-offtopic
[00:17] <phillw> ;part #lubuntu
[01:29] <silverarrow1> should lubuntu autodetect  a usb bluetooth device?
[03:38] <silverarrow> hi
[03:38] <silverarrow> anyone good with repositories?
[03:38] <silverarrow> I have a made a mess with my update
[05:54] <ManDay> Using LUBUNTU, with neither Pulse nor JACK installed (possible traces of ESD), pidgin crashes with a segfault and an error "Cannot connect to server socket; Jack server not running or cannot be started" once a voice call is attempted. Receiving voice calls is also impossible, though does not result in a segfault. The "Sound Preview" in the Preferences appears mute, too, and all settings regarding the
[05:54] <ManDay> output target (the list offers ESD, ALSA, Default, Beep, etc., but neither Pulse nor Jack) are apparently ignored. Any ideas?
[06:41] <maheanuu> Good evening /morning to all from Tahiti
[06:43] <maheanuu> I did a lubuntu install for my daughter on an older NEC tower and all went well until I started getting an error message and the computer drops out and reboots......
[06:44] <maheanuu> I know that it is the labor day weekend in the usa, just hoping that there might be a guru around
[06:45] <JohnDoe_71Rus> maheanuu: recovery mode does not start to?
[06:48] <maheanuu> JohnDoe, this is the error I am getting I am receiving the following message in Lubuntu (Process :229) GLib WARNING **: getpwuid_r () failed due to unknown user id (0)
[06:48] <maheanuu> being a pretty new noob, I am lost
[06:49] <maheanuu> Have you seen this before?
[06:50] <maheanuu> When I get this I get hung in a reboot loop
[06:51] <maheanuu> It first happened when I was using terminal to get Skype....
[06:52] <maheanuu> It seems to happen when I am working from the command line, or trying to work from there
[06:52] <maheanuu> I do not get to a recovery mode or at least I am not recognizing it if it is happening
[06:58] <maheanuu> JohnDoe, the only way I can get out of it is to power down and then reboot....
[06:59] <JohnDoe_71Rus> GLib WARNING **: getpwuid_r () failed due to unknown user id (0) i see this warning. but then system work normal
[06:59] <JohnDoe_71Rus> maheanuu: see log to error
[07:01] <maheanuu> I had just finished doing a driver install for a hp printer and was in the process of downloading and installing skype when this started...  The computer is not here with me it is at my daughters house and I am home for the evening and will be going back in the morning
[07:03] <JohnDoe_71Rus> I think it a shared problem ubuntu. Not lubuntu
[07:05] <maheanuu> I have been using Ubuntu for the past 8 months and find it excellent, this is my first time with Lubuntu and actually I do like it.   I believe that it will work good on the lower memory older 32 bit machines that I restore and give to the kids who normally would not have computers here in the islands
[07:07] <maheanuu> I believe so, according to what I have managed to read so far, but I am too new to really know where to look or how to report it.  I am the only Linux user in a 5 island area and no one even has any idea about Linux here in the leeward iles
[07:07] <ManDay> Using LUBUNTU, with neither Pulse nor JACK installed (possible traces of ESD), pidgin crashes with a segfault and an error "Cannot connect to server socket; Jack server not running or cannot be started" once a voice call is attempted. Receiving voice calls is also impossible, though does not result in a segfault. The "Sound Preview" in the Preferences appears mute, too, and all settings regarding the
[07:07] <ManDay> output target (the list offers ESD, ALSA, Default, Beep, etc., but neither Pulse nor Jack) are apparently ignored. Any ideas?
[07:08] <JohnDoe_71Rus> maheanuu: can you just login to console to read logs ?
[07:10] <maheanuu> Not until tomorrow morning, I will be back at my daughters then, she is at work now....
[07:10] <maheanuu> I will do that tomorrow first thing, I have done a copy and paste and saved all for use there in the morning thank you.
[07:19] <pete__> ola
[07:20] <Unit193> Howdy
[07:22] <pete__> hey Unit193, cool seeing you again
[07:24] <pete__> I'm sure I could google fu this, but for whatever reason, lubuntu 11.04 seems to autocorrect to ubuntu... anyways, how do I set the touchpad off during keyboard use?
[07:24] <Unit193> Got a problem?
[07:24] <pete__> is it xorg?
[07:25] <Unit193> !synaptics
[07:25] <Unit193> I think I should point here
[07:26] <pete__> "Go to System > Preferences > Mouse > Touchpad and uncheck 'Disable touchpad while typing' and 'Enable mouse clicks with touchpad'"
[07:26] <pete__> can't doesn't exist in Lubuntu
[07:27] <Unit193> That guide is for Gnome mainly it seems
[07:27] <pete__> ;)
[07:29] <pete__> dinner, brb
[07:30] <Unit193> !info gpointing-device-settings
[07:32] <pete__> install that?
[07:32] <Unit193> I've never used Lubuntu on a laptop, but IIRC, that's what you install
[07:33] <pete__> IIRC?
[07:33] <Unit193> jmarsden: Sorry to ping, but for later, that's the replacement for gsynaptics?
[07:33] <Unit193> If I remember correctly
[07:35] <JohnDoe_71Rus> Date & Time. Can't change settings. autorised not activ. can remove some need packages
[08:17] <pete__> :) Unit193, I installed gpointing-device-settings, and it doesn't have a setting for "turn off touchpad while typing"
[08:17] <pete__> though it does have "palm detection"
[08:29] <Unit193> Alright, I was going to go to bed a half hour ago, but take a look here https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Touchpad_Synaptics#Disable_Trackpad_while_Typing (Just do not note what site it's on ;) )
[08:30] <pete__> :) Cheers,
[08:30] <pete__> go to bed
[08:32] <pete__> am signing off too
[08:32] <pete__> Thanks for all your help
[08:32] <Unit193> Hope something helps!
[08:32] <pete__> take it easy
[08:32] <pete__> it will
[08:32] <pete__> cheers,
[08:32] <pete__> go
[17:55] <silverarrow> are anyone in lubuntu now?
[17:56] <KM0201> o/
[17:56] <silverarrow> is it possible to play this in gnome or vlc ? http://www.dr.dk/nu/live#/DR2
[17:56] <silverarrow> gnome mplayer that is
[17:56] <silverarrow> I am having trouble with adobe,  cpu heavy
[17:57] <KM0201> it's flash, how would you plan on playing it in mplayer/vlc
[17:57] <silverarrow> I copy and paste address in "location"
[17:57] <KM0201> that's not hw that works
[17:57] <silverarrow> gnome handles some streams fine
[17:58] <KM0201> but not flash
[17:58] <silverarrow> vlc used to though
[17:58] <KM0201> lol, ok
[17:58] <KM0201> vlc has never been able to stream flash.
[17:58] <silverarrow> what is it streaming then?
[17:58] <KM0201> could be anything, but its not flash
[17:59] <silverarrow> when watching youtube, onlie tv,
[17:59] <Unit193> Flash player does play flvs and VLC does handle that
[17:59] <KM0201> youtube, is flash.. you cannot stream youtube to flash
[17:59] <silverarrow> vlc runs youtube
[17:59] <KM0201> Unit193, of course vlc can play flv's, but it can't stream flash videos (from for instance, youtube)
[17:59] <KM0201> silverarrow, ok..
[18:00] <Unit193> YouTube it can handle, but only because they set that up to work
[18:01] <silverarrow> you might have trouble with vlc and youtube right now, but only because youtube keeps changing stuff, but there are ways about ti
[18:01] <silverarrow> I struggle with settings though ?
[18:02] <silverarrow> what about the flash replacer in firefox then?
[18:02] <silverarrow> any idea?
[18:03] <silverarrow> km02
[18:04] <Unit193> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/flashvideoreplacer/ This?
[18:05] <silverarrow> do you have it added?
[18:07] <Unit193> It's an addon, just hit add to firefox
[18:08] <silverarrow> yes, I have to get firefox again
[18:08] <silverarrow> I have only chromium
[18:09] <Unit193> You asked about the one in firefox, I told you about the one in firefox -_-
[18:12] <silverarrow> sorry, i was thinking out loud
[18:12] <silverarrow> I think the firefox fvr, is a pluging for the gnome mplayer
[18:12] <silverarrow> I'm not shore
[18:13] <Unit193> Only works for YouTube, Blip.tv, and Vimeo
[18:14] <silverarrow> can you play this in either vlc or gnome? http://www.dr.dk/nu/live#/DR2
[18:15] <Unit193> Can't check now
[18:15] <silverarrow> it's all right
[18:16] <silverarrow> maybe there is a way to make it work
[18:16] <Unit193> Pupuser1: It's not recommended to IRC as root
[18:18] <silverarrow> what exactly is the gnome mplayer?
[18:19] <silverarrow> I used to think it was build on mplayer
[18:19] <Unit193> !info gnome-mplayer
[18:20] <silverarrow> thanks Unit193
[18:21] <Unit193> Yep!
[18:21] <silverarrow> I shall have to google it, to get any wiser it seems
[18:21] <Unit193> Google is my good friend, take good care of him and he will do the same to you
[19:11] <silverarrow> so, flash video replacer is not for lubuntu?
[19:11] <silverarrow> If I get the latest firefox, from their site, how will lubuntu take it?
[19:12] <silverarrow> I need an addon
[19:17] <Pupuser1> farewell
[20:21] <silverarrow> hi
[20:21] <silverarrow> how do I tweak gnome-player in chromium, to choose gnome in stead of adobe?
[20:24] <silverarrow> preferred applications would be the obvious place to go, but...
[20:29] <silverarrow> why does adobe override gnomeplayer?
[20:32] <micahg> silverarrow: gnomeplayer plays flas?
[20:32] <micahg> *flash
[20:32] <silverarrow> I think it does
[20:33] <silverarrow> streams at least
[20:33] <strycore> silverarrow, it doesn't work that way, there are several types of playing videos on the web
[20:34] <silverarrow> thing is, with gecko and some stuff, it does stream online tv,
[20:34] <silverarrow> site made to work with microsoft media player
[20:35] <strycore> the oldest is embeding a video, which use the system's media player (usually  a .mov, .mpg, .wmv or .asf); then there's flash video that can only be played by flash player, gnash or swfdec and the last one is html5 video which is played direcly by the browser
[20:36] <strycore> so, even if totem or gmplayer can play swfs it won't override Flash Player
[20:36] <silverarrow> which is annoying
[20:37] <silverarrow> fire fox has a good addon
[20:37] <tomeo> hi
[20:37] <silverarrow> hi
[20:37] <strycore> you can try fetching the video with cclive then play it with your media player
[20:37] <tomeo> I just dd:ed lubuntu-11.04-desktop-amd64.iso to my USB-drive and tried to boot from it to no avail. Do I have to use a specific version?
[20:37] <strycore> or with an addon
[20:37] <silverarrow> firefox, flashvideoreplacer, but it's not in lubuntu package manager
[20:38] <silverarrow> what kind off trouble would I expect from firefox 6 downloaded from their site, in lubuntu?
[20:41] <micahg> silverarrow: we dropped almost all firefox addons from the archive due to rapid release
[20:42] <micahg> silverarrow: also, what's wrong with firefox from the archive?
[20:45] <silverarrow> micahg: it doesn't have flashplayerreplacer
[20:45] <micahg> silverarrow: you can install it from the firefox in the archive
[20:46] <silverarrow> archive?
[20:46] <micahg> upstream doesn't include that eitehr
[20:46] <tomeo> Isnt the Lubuntu-installer supposed to work from USB-sticks?
[20:46] <silverarrow> I have searched in package manager?
[20:46] <silverarrow> tomeo, yes
[20:47] <micahg> silverarrow: I assume flashvideoreplacer is a firefox addon, if you install firefox and go to tools -> addons, you can search for and install it
[20:47]  * silverarrow googles lubuntu fireforx archive
[20:47] <micahg> silverarrow: I meant Firefox in the Ubuntu archive
[20:47] <silverarrow> MichealH: oh i see
[20:47] <silverarrow> micahg: I see
[20:48] <silverarrow> I used to have firefox, but thought the addon-function where taken out
[20:48] <silverarrow> *in the buntus
[20:49] <micahg> silverarrow: no, we just removed the addons from the archive so they don't show up in the package manager, you can still get them from the firefox addon manager (which is what we prefer since they auto-update)
[20:49] <silverarrow> micahg: me too really, it's just I assumed they weren't there
[20:53]  * phillw as lubuntu uses Chromium, for Firefox issues could I politely suggest you head over the a fantastic guy at http://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=649167 If neither of his sections are of help. I'll have a chat with him. it is a onour to call him a friend.
[20:54] <phillw> *honour*
[20:56] <silverarrow> thanks
[20:56] <silverarrow> I have tried to stay with chromium exclusively
[20:56] <silverarrow> but firefox have very good addons some times
[21:02] <silverarrow> what is gonme really
[21:02] <silverarrow> gnome*
[21:03] <silverarrow> when it's not the gnome mplayer
[21:10] <MichealH> silverarrow, ?
[21:11] <silverarrow> sorry, I figured it out; desktop environment
[21:22] <jmarsden> silverarrow: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNOME .  In general, when asking "what is X?" use Google and/or wikipedia first, then ask for any more specific details once you already know the basics.
[21:22] <silverarrow> firefox is back on my puter
[21:23] <silverarrow> jmarsden: thanks, I will. Somehow gnome mplayer, mplayer and gnome desktop environment got me confused. no connection to either
[21:24] <themuffinman> is there a way to remove chromium from my computer without having to uninstall lubuntu-desktop and getting firefox installed as synaptic package manager tells me?
[21:24] <jmarsden> silverarrow: One more tip: when the thing you are asking about is a Ubuntu package name, you can do  !info somepackage and get a short description of it here from ubottu
[21:25] <silverarrow> I shall remember that
[21:25] <silverarrow> very clever
[21:25] <jmarsden> themuffinman: uninstalling lubuntu-desktop is 100% safe.  if you need to uninstall it, just do so.  It is just a meta package.
[21:25] <jmarsden> !info gnome-mplayer
[21:25] <jmarsden> Like that :)
[21:26] <silverarrow> cool
[21:26] <themuffinman> thank you but what about firefox getting installed automatically? I already installed google chrome instead and wouldn't like more browsers installed
[21:26] <jmarsden> themuffinman: You are saying that uninstalling lubuntu-desktop automatically installs firefox?  Hmmm, I thought that issue had been fixed... what version of Lubuntu are you running?
[21:27] <themuffinman> 11.04
[21:28] <silverarrow> I installed FF6 now, from package manager
[21:28] <silverarrow> works fine so far
[21:28] <themuffinman> it was a fresh install with a minimal disk
[21:28] <silverarrow> I am lubuntu 11.04 too
[21:29] <jmarsden> themuffinman: OK.  Unfortunately I need to go AFK, but I will try to check on that when I get back (in a few hours).  I seem to remember an issue related to that, but I thought a package update had taken care of it.
[21:29] <silverarrow> themuffinman: sorry misunderstood you
[21:29] <jmarsden> Anyway, sorry for the bad timing but I need to go now :)
[21:29] <silverarrow> I actually went for default chromium and like it
[21:30] <silverarrow> have a fine evening jmarsden
[21:30] <themuffinman> thanks, ill keep looking for it on google anyways
[21:30] <silverarrow> ...or whatever time there is where you are jmarsden
[21:32] <themuffinman> silverarrow lucky you, chromium for me was slow at almost everything
[21:32] <silverarrow> it was?
[21:33] <silverarrow> i had trouble with adobe flash player
[21:33] <silverarrow> only thing
[21:33] <silverarrow> i know, different systems act different
[21:33] <themuffinman> ye that's just a plugin, but maybe i did something wrong while installing it or not, but everytime i tried to switch a tab or type an adress in the bar it would take a while
[21:33] <silverarrow> you just have to try and see what works
[21:34] <themuffinman> looks like it
[21:34] <silverarrow> pretty fast and easy here, on a minimal laptop
[21:35] <silverarrow> I remember a version of puppy linux, only browser that didn't act up, was opera
[21:35] <silverarrow> really weird, because specs are not tiny for Opera
[21:35] <silverarrow> sea monkey, chrome, firefox, all messed up the system
[21:38] <silverarrow> themuffinman: midori is well worth trying too
[21:39] <silverarrow> light and fast, with all usual features
[21:40] <themuffinman> i tried it before, couldnt get used to it tho :p
[21:44] <silverarrow> I can get buy on almost any browser,
[21:44] <silverarrow> midori has the regular features, but you have to go look for them, and mark them off, like toolbar, link bar, ...
[21:45] <silverarrow> if i remember correctly
[21:55] <silverarrow> firefox ruined gnomeplayer
[21:55] <silverarrow> nothing works anymore
[21:55] <silverarrow> and it stole plugin from chromium
[22:03] <silverarrow> no respons on the lubuntu forum yet
[22:03]  * silverarrow wonders if he should burn an alpha lubuntu, and do a reinstallation 
[22:05] <micahg> silverarrow: actually gecko-mediaplayer needs someone to test, should work again with the version in natty-proposed
[22:05] <silverarrow> they do?
[22:06] <silverarrow> I have gecko installed
[22:06] <micahg> well, I need someone to test it, so I can push it to -security, -updates...
[22:06] <silverarrow> ....I think
[22:06] <silverarrow> let me see if I have the proposed packages marked of for
[22:57] <silverarrow> I have a worrying trouble with update manager, it is stuck
[22:57] <silverarrow> I cannot close it
[23:17] <LubuntuPowered> reformat
[23:18] <tomeo> I cant press "Make startup disk" in usb-creator.exe, why could that be?
[23:18] <tomeo> The button is disabled