[04:15] <pitti> Good morning
[04:24] <TheMuso> Hey pitti. How was your weekend?
[04:25] <pitti> hey TheMuso; pretty nice, we went to Dresden again to visit family and friends
[04:25] <pitti> how was your's?
[04:25] <TheMuso> pitti: Very nice thanks. We got our first real taste of spring.
[04:25] <TheMuso> And are still getting it today.
[04:36] <RAOF> Aaaah, and here comes the rain!
[05:05] <RAOF> Aaand there it goes.  Hello, spring!
[05:06] <TheMuso> heh
[06:03] <didrocks> good morning
[06:11] <pitti> bonjour didrocks, ca va?
[06:13] <didrocks> guten morgen pitti. Headaches all the week-end (migraines) :/ but fortunatly, it's over now. You?
[06:13] <pitti> didrocks: uh, that sounds bad
[06:13] <pitti> didrocks: we were in Dresden again, visiting family and friends; was really nice
[06:13] <pitti> just a lot of train
[06:15] <didrocks> nice :)
[06:15] <jasoncwarner_> RAOF & robert_ancell I'm guessing the lag I mentioned on my unity-greeter screen is X, but can't nail it down. After about 6-10 seconds of sitting on the screen, the mouse lag goes away and I can move it around nearly flawlessly.
[06:29] <jasoncwarner_> hey didrocks , morning!
[06:30] <didrocks> hey jasoncwarner_ :)
[06:30] <jasoncwarner_> didrocks: question for you. I find that sometimes the dash and alt-tab have severe stacking issues. They seem to be behind all the windows. I cannot for the life to me find a pattern to it...
[06:30] <jasoncwarner_> have you noticed this as well?
[06:31] <didrocks> jasoncwarner_: indeed, that's part of the "wrong stacking of compiz" that smspillaz is working for the last 4 weeks
[06:31] <jasoncwarner_> didrocks: ah...any headway?
[06:31] <jasoncwarner_> ;)
[06:31] <didrocks> jasoncwarner_: still not ready from what smspillaz told me
[06:31] <didrocks> jasoncwarner_: right now, the only way is to have an empty workspace to get them :)
[06:32] <didrocks> jasoncwarner_: or logout/login (even restarting compiz doesn't fix it)
[06:32] <jasoncwarner_> didrocks: ok...doing that now :) thanks
[06:32] <didrocks> jasoncwarner_: yw (it's one of the 3 things to ensure we have a fix before oneiric is released for compiz)
[06:49] <RAOF> jasoncwarner_: Is your system heavily loaded during those 6-10 seconds?
[06:51] <jasoncwarner_> RAOF: I don't know, exactly. You can take a look at my bootchart I sent to get an idea (shoudl be the same etc). I would suspect normal boot process, but I don't know
[06:56] <RAOF> Oh, yeah.  You had X magically consuming significant CPU in bursts.  That's right.
[06:58] <jasoncwarner_> RAOF: yeah, no idea why...
[06:58] <jasoncwarner_> RAOF: any clues or thoughts?
[06:59] <RAOF> *Generally* when X consumes significant resources it's because a client is making lots of requests; there's no obvious client in your bootchart, though.
[07:13] <Sweetshark> Morning all!
[07:20] <RAOF> Sweetshark: Goooooooooood morning!
[07:23] <pitti> hey Sweetshark, wie gehts?
[07:26] <robert_ancell> jasoncwarner_, can you add images to google docs?  It's not working for me
[07:29] <Sweetshark> pitti: good, I had an exciting belated late-night flight trough the thunderstorm and lightning that once was hurricane irene ...
[07:31] <RAOF> Mmmm, fun!
[07:31] <jasoncwarner_> robert_ancell: yeah, you should be able to.
[07:33] <robert_ancell> brb
[07:53] <chrisccoulson> jasoncwarner_, i get the launcher and dash appearing behind windows quite a lot too
[07:54] <chrisccoulson> it makes unity unusable :(
[07:54] <chrisccoulson> i had to switch to unity-2d weeks ago because of that :/
[08:03] <rodrigo__> morning
[08:06] <pitti> hey rodrigo__
[08:07] <pitti> rodrigo__: FYI, I'm currently working on the gtk+3.0 update
[08:08] <rodrigo__> hi pitti
[08:11] <rodrigo__> hmm, apport thinks g-s-d is crashing all the time, but it's not
[08:11] <robert_ancell> RAOF, the GRUB screen on normal boot is just a purple screen right?
[08:11] <pitti> robert_ancell: are you sure? it's auto-respawning
[08:12] <chrisccoulson> hi pitti, how are you?
[08:12] <pitti> hey chrisccoulson!
[08:12] <pitti> chrisccoulson: quite fine, thanks! how about you?
[08:12] <chrisccoulson> pitti - yeah, pretty good thanks
[08:13] <didrocks> hey robert_ancell, chrisccoulson
[08:13] <chrisccoulson> hi didrocks
[08:14] <RAOF> robert_ancell: Yes
[08:14]  * RAOF → pliates.
[08:15] <rodrigo__> hi didrocks, robert_ancell, chrisccoulson
[08:15] <chrisccoulson> hi rodrigo__
[08:20] <rodrigo__> so yeah, apport has become crazy here
[08:20] <rodrigo__> it reports crashes that are not ???
[08:21] <pitti> rodrigo__: may it be that it's just update-notifier which got crazy, and alerts about them all over again?
[08:21] <pitti> rodrigo__: also, can you please check /var/log/apport.log, whether it actually got crashes/
[08:22] <pitti> ?
[08:22] <rodrigo__> hmm, not sure, it reports g-s-d crashing, but I have gdb attached to it, and it's not crashing at all
[08:22] <rodrigo__> so what does update-manager have to do?
[08:22] <pitti> update-notifier; it's what calls apport-gtk when a new .crash file appears
[08:22] <rodrigo__> ah, ok
[08:22] <rodrigo__> yeah, that might be then
[08:22] <pitti> but "gone crazy" is a little too unspecific; this needs to be pinpointed more exactly
[08:23] <rodrigo__> I'll reboot as soon as the update is done
[08:23] <pitti> it is *only* the kernel which invokes apport .crash generation
[08:23] <pitti> which is only triggered if a process really exits with e. g. SIGSEGV
[08:23] <xclaesse> are -dev supposed to depend on their gir1.2- ?
[08:23] <pitti> I've never seen crash reports being written without an actual crash
[08:23] <pitti> xclaesse: yes
[08:23] <rodrigo__> pitti, ok, looking
[08:23] <xclaesse> pitti, ok libaccountsservice-dev needs fixing then :)
[08:24] <pitti> rodrigo__: what happens often is that something else crashes in the system, and then update-notifier re-shows all the previous ones again, if the crashed one did not belong to the user
[08:24] <rodrigo__> pitti, where are the .crash files written to?
[08:24] <pitti> rodrigo__: /var/crash/
[08:24] <rodrigo__> ok
[08:24] <pitti> rodrigo__: you can just delete them all, and then see when the next one happens
[08:25] <rodrigo__> ok
[08:25] <rodrigo__> ok, removed all files there, no more notifications for now
[08:25] <rodrigo__> let's see when the next one shows up
[08:48] <didrocks> chrisccoulson: you probably didn't see my ping on Friday, but I had a question about the rendering glitches in thunderbird (some part, like the status bar are just transparent)
[08:51] <Laney> pitti: I guess you didn't mean to run update-maintainer on calibre in Debian.
[08:51] <pitti> Laney: erk, no
[08:51] <Laney> heh
[08:53] <Laney> thanks for those packages though, very handy
[08:56] <chrisccoulson> didrocks, no, i've not seen that before. does it happen in firefox too?
[08:57] <didrocks> I don't use firefox, let me try :)
[08:58] <didrocks> chrisccoulson: no issue on firefox
[08:58] <didrocks> chrisccoulson: do you want a screenshot?
[08:58] <chrisccoulson> didrocks, yes please
[08:58] <didrocks> one sec :)
[08:59] <chrisccoulson> hi andreasn :)
[08:59] <chrisccoulson> i was just writing you an e-mail
[08:59] <andreasn> hi chrisccoulson!
[08:59] <chrisccoulson> hi. you've been on vacation haven't you?
[08:59] <andreasn> yes, for two weeks
[08:59] <didrocks> chrisccoulson: hum, weird, I just notice I don't have the theme in this "compose" window, maybe it's because I installed a local one?
[08:59] <didrocks> chrisccoulson: can be related as I installed an alpha version of andreasn's theme
[08:59] <didrocks> (hey andreasn ;))
[08:59] <andreasn> just got back
[08:59] <chrisccoulson> didrocks, yes, most likely
[09:00] <chrisccoulson> andreasn, excellent. i hope you're feeling nice and refreshed :)
[09:00] <didrocks> chrisccoulson: what's the package name of the system one?
[09:00] <didrocks> let me try to remove the local import one
[09:00] <andreasn> chrisccoulson, oh yes, very much so
[09:00] <chrisccoulson> didrocks, there isn't. it's the default theme now
[09:00] <chrisccoulson> andreasn, that's good then
[09:00] <didrocks> ok, how to remove the locally installed one?
[09:00] <chrisccoulson> andreasn, we're shipping your theme in ubuntu now. everyone really likes it :)
[09:01] <andreasn> chrisccoulson, haven't started reading e-mail yet
[09:01] <didrocks> removed it, restarting…
[09:01] <andreasn> chrisccoulson, cool, great to hear!
[09:01] <chrisccoulson> we're actually shipping it as the default theme rather than an extension, for technical reasons, which means we're shipping some quite large distro patches
[09:01] <didrocks> chrisccoulson: indeed, no issue anymore, sorry for the noise, didn't think about the theme before pinging you :)
[09:02] <lool> didrocks: Hey!
[09:02] <didrocks> hey lool :)
[09:02] <didrocks> lool: back from holidays?
[09:02] <chrisccoulson> andreasn, i noticed the patches on bugzilla were slightly outdated compared to your theme extension, so i ended up converting your extension in to an updated set of patches
[09:02] <lool> didrocks: Yup
[09:02] <lool> was awesome
[09:02] <didrocks> nice to hear :-)
[09:02] <chrisccoulson> i'm not sure if you've done that already, but if not, you might want to grab the patches from our package
[09:03] <lool> didrocks: I have a compiz corruption with xterm again (I'm getting used to them  :-)  seems like https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/841103  what's the best way to a) fix it b) avoid this from happening again?  I imagine I could try something like bisecting some compiz bzr branch?
[09:03] <ubot2`> Ubuntu bug 841103 in compiz "Text has artifacts when typing something in terminal" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[09:03] <lool> or git rather
[09:03] <chrisccoulson> didrocks, oh, that's good :)
[09:03] <dupondje> somebody else noticed gnome-shell crashes since last updates ?
[09:04] <didrocks> lool: bisecting will be hard because of some ABI break on the way
[09:05] <didrocks> lool: and that actually means rebuilding 8 rdepends, not sure you are eager to try that :)
[09:05] <didrocks> lool: there is a "damage" plugin in -extra IIRC, smspillaz ? ^
[09:08] <smspillaz> didrocks: lool: showrepaint
[09:08] <lool> I'm afraid I'll have to ask for details on how to use that
[09:09] <chrisccoulson> b'ah, more firefox and thunderbird uploads today. i hope my connection works a bit faster today
[09:09] <smspillaz> lool: you can get it from lp
[09:09] <smspillaz> lool: sudo apt-get compiz-dev
[09:09] <smspillaz> bzr branch lp:compiz-showrepaint-plugin
[09:09] <smspillaz> cd compiz-showrepaint-plugin
[09:09] <smspillaz> mkdir build
[09:09] <smspillaz> cd build
[09:09] <smspillaz> ccmake ..
[09:09] <smspillaz> make && make install
[09:09] <smspillaz> *err, cmake
[09:10] <smspillaz> and then you enable it in ccsm and toggle it with alt-super-r iirc
[09:10] <smspillaz> that will show you which screen regions are being redrawn
[09:10] <smspillaz> it could be a server-side borders problem though
[09:12] <lool> didrocks: Can't find it searching for repaint after installing -extra, but I see a /usr/share/compiz/firepaint.xml in the package
[09:12] <lool> Which is to "Paint fire on the screen"
[09:12] <lool> There is a Force full screen redraws on repaint option though
[09:13] <lool> but that didn't help
[09:13] <lool> smspillaz: ok, will try building now; is there a way I can use the plugin without root?  I want to be confident that I completely wipe it away after debugging
[09:14] <smspillaz> lool: you don't need to be root
[09:14] <smspillaz> lool: all the sudo there was for was to install compiz-dev :)
[09:14] <lool> Great, thanks
[09:14] <lool> smspillaz: Would you confirm what I have to do to remove it from ~/.dirs after use?
[09:17] <chrisccoulson> RAOF, is apport catching Xorg crashes, or is that known to be broken?
[09:17] <didrocks> lool: you're right, it's not on the install target of the meta compiz-plugins project anymore
[09:18] <chrisccoulson> RAOF, actually, forget that ;)
[09:18] <didrocks> lool: after use, you will need to remove it from ~/.compiz-1/
[09:18] <smspillaz> lool: rm -rf ~/.compiz-1
[09:18] <dbarth> dpm: ping? we have a few issues identified as part of the cjk effort that reveal to be translation issues: https://bugs.launchpad.net/zeitgeist/+bug/827420
[09:18] <ubot2`> Ubuntu bug 827420 in unity "Unity dash file search returns relevant files and folders but not all as I expect. " [Medium,Invalid]
[09:18] <dbarth> dpm: how can we track and hopefully resolve that?
[09:18] <lool> gosh there are tons of session files in ~/.compiz-1
[09:18] <dpm> morning dbarth, looking...
[09:19] <dbarth> morning ;)
[09:19] <lool> brb
[09:21] <dpm> dbarth, in these cases, the best thing to do is to add a bug task for the 'ubuntu-translations' project, and from there we assign it to the relevant translation team. I've just done that for this one
[09:23] <dbarth> dpm: ah ok, thanks
[09:23] <dbarth> dpm: i think there is another one so i'll do the same for this one as well
[09:24] <dpm> dbarth, cool, thanks :)
[09:25] <andreasn> chrisccoulson, ah, ok. Where are those patches located?
[09:25] <chrisccoulson> andreasn, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/thunderbird/thunderbird-trunk.head/files/head:/debian/patches/
[09:25] <chrisccoulson> it's the "theme-refresh-*" patches
[09:25] <andreasn> chrisccoulson, thanks, I'll check them out!
[09:26] <dupondje> gnome-shell seems to crash every startup here. Any idea's how I can make a apport bugreport of it ?
[09:26] <ronoc> rodrigo__, major pulse bug ?
[09:26] <dupondje> apport doesn't popup :(
[09:26] <ronoc> rodrigo__, good morning btw :)
[09:28] <ronoc> rodrigo__, module-detect-jackdbus in default.pa is loaded twice
[09:28] <ronoc> this causes pulse to freak out and exti
[09:28] <ronoc> exit
[09:28]  * Laney hopes indicators get ported to gnome-panel 3
[09:34]  * dupondje hops gnome-shell can be fixed :)
[09:35] <dupondje> seems like it crashes on gnome-shell-calendar-server
[09:37]  * didrocks don't like when killing a process bring the terminal down with it…
[09:38] <rodrigo__> ronoc, what pulse bug?
[09:38]  * ronoc finds the bug no
[09:39] <rodrigo__> ronoc, yes, seems it's loaded twice indeed
[09:39] <rodrigo__> ronoc, is that upstream, or a patch of ours?
[09:39]  * rodrigo__ looks at the source
[09:40] <ronoc> rodrigo__, don't know, the problem is in the default.pa
[09:45] <rodrigo__> ronoc, we add it once in 0012-JACK-Load-module-jackdbus-detect-in-default.pa.patch
[09:45] <rodrigo__> not sure where the 2nd one comes from
[09:45] <ronoc> hmm maybe I hacked my default.pa :/
[09:45] <rodrigo__> ronoc, no, I also have it, and didn't hack it
[09:46] <rodrigo__> not that I remember, at least :)
[09:46] <ronoc> ok cool
[09:46] <rodrigo__> ronoc, ah, in the package branch, src/daemon/default.pa.in already has it, so the patch is redundant
[09:47] <ronoc> yeah, could we get a fix out immediately ?
[09:47] <ronoc> otherwise the bug management will be such a drag for such a silly issue
[09:47] <ronoc> and i'm sure we all have other things that need doing  :)
[09:48] <rodrigo__> yes, I'll disable the patch
[09:48] <ronoc> rodrigo__, thanks a mill
[09:48] <lool> so actually make installing the plugin doesn't just install into ~/.compiz-1, but also ~/.gconf/schemas/compiz-showrepaint.schemas ~/.config/compiz-1/gsettings/schemas/org.freedesktop.compiz.showrepaint.gschema.xml and updates common schemas
[09:49] <diwic> rodrigo__, what patch?
[09:49] <diwic> rodrigo__, the work is already done and committed to lp:~ubuntu-audio-dev/pulseaudio/ubuntu.oneiric
[09:49] <rodrigo__> diwic, debian/patches/0012-JACK-Load-module-jackdbus-detect-in-default.pa.patch
[09:49] <diwic> All I need is someone to upload
[09:49] <rodrigo__> diwic, ah ok
[09:49] <rodrigo__> diwic, I'll upload it then
[09:50] <diwic> rodrigo__, thanks :-)
[09:50] <ronoc> rodrigo__, diwic, sweet
[09:50] <rodrigo__> diwic, hmm, you don't have permissions?
[09:51] <ronoc> diwic, I don't have upload rights
[09:51] <diwic> rodrigo__, no, but given today's issue maybe I should apply for them
[09:51] <rodrigo__> I think I have, let's see
[09:52] <lool> didrocks, smspillaz: So I've installed and enabled the plugin; alt-super-r doesn't seem to trigger anything, I see the same corruption as before, all in white
[09:53] <rodrigo__> diwic, no, I don't have neither
[09:53] <rodrigo__> so maybe pitti can do the upload, pitti?
[09:53] <pitti> rodrigo__: what's up?
[09:53] <rodrigo__> pitti: can you sponsor lp:~ubuntu-audio-dev/pulseaudio/ubuntu.oneiric ?
[09:54] <pitti> rodrigo__: sure, can do
[09:54] <rodrigo__> pitti, thanks
[09:55] <pitti> rodrigo__: I can't push the debcommit -r, though
[09:55] <pitti> diwic: can you do dch -r / debcommit -r?
[09:55] <rodrigo__> pitti, no, it's a lp:ubuntu branch AFAIK
[09:55] <diwic> pitti, sure
[09:55] <pitti> rodrigo__: no, ~ubuntu-audio-dev
[09:55] <pitti> diwic: ah, nevermind, seems I can push
[09:55] <rodrigo__> right, I meant the package branch for pulseaudio
[09:56] <dupondje> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/841399 please check this :D
[09:56] <ubot2`> Ubuntu bug 841399 in gnome-shell "gnome-shell segfault error 4 in libgobject-2.0.so.0.2918.0" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[09:56] <diwic> pitti, think all core devs can push to ubuntu-audio-dev
[09:57] <pitti> diwic: uploaded/pushed
[09:59] <diwic> pitti, \o/
[10:10] <rodrigo__> need to reboot, bbiab
[10:11] <didrocks> hum, ppas are really really busy :/ still 9 hours of wait before building Qt…
[10:12] <pitti> didrocks: I'm happy to bump build score for something you block on
[10:13] <didrocks> pitti: yes please, especially because of missing tcpserver (seems they don't ship it anymore? investigating why… no changelog, commit found for that), so will need a lot of tries I guess: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/+archive/ppa/+packages qt4-x11 please :)
[10:13] <pitti> didrocks: just send me the URLs of the builds
[10:14] <didrocks> like https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/+archive/ppa/+build/2765970? (just one arch is enough)
[10:14] <didrocks> pitti: ^
[10:14] <pitti> didrocks: bumped
[10:14] <didrocks> thanks :)
[10:14] <pitti> didrocks: PPA URL is enough
[10:14] <Daviey> pitti: In that case, can you bump: https://launchpad.net/~james-page/+archive/oneiric/+build/2766025 :)  (Settles a disagreement regarding local builds, don't want to sponsor it until it works in a PPA)
[10:14] <pitti> didrocks: ah, only need i386?
[10:14] <pitti> didrocks: de-bumped amd64
[10:14] <didrocks> pitti: well, both are fine, it's just one is enough for me testing now :)
[10:15] <pitti> Daviey: down to 1 h
[10:15] <pitti> sorry, the i386 buildds are really being Mozilla'ed right now :/
[10:17] <Daviey> pitti: thanks!  Sorry for the OT. :)
[10:17] <pitti> Daviey: np :)
[10:33] <asac> hmm. i have the app switcher (alt+tab) of unity not going away and i cannot reach the apps anymore :) luckily my terminal is to front
[10:34] <asac> anybody interested in some info?
[10:37] <jasoncwarner_> asac: yes...any and all bugs! Pedro and didrocks, want to talk to asac?
[10:38] <asac> cool. just need to know what info to extract here
[10:39] <didrocks> asac: xwininfo -all and click on the alt + tab
[10:40]  * didrocks looks if there is debug info for alt + tab in dbus…
[10:41] <didrocks> asac: it seems there is no dbus info for alt + tab though :/ (can't find anything on d-feet), DBO wrote it, you should ping him when he's there to know exactly what else he needs if he has more tweaks in the code
[10:43] <dupondje> I got a small question, on what package should I file a bug for this: 'if my user is not in its own group, then everything in the gnome-control-panel en networkmanager is grayed out'
[10:43] <dupondje> can't change anything ...
[10:48] <asac> didrocks: i wont be able to keep this situation forever :)
[10:48] <asac> i need to be able to get my browser to front
[10:48] <asac> let me get the xininfo -all if you say thats helpful
[10:51] <asac> didrocks: so xwininfo -all doesnt dump anything when hitting alt+tab etc
[10:51] <asac> i tried clicking on the big app icons i see then it dumped sommething
[10:51] <asac> but i think its not that window
[10:52] <asac> didrocks: i have an idea
[10:52] <asac> so i can still switch by selecting the right app and then clicking on background
[10:52] <asac> the problem is that i still see mumble here :)
[10:52] <asac> and that doesnt exist anymore
[10:52] <asac> so my theory is:
[10:52] <didrocks> asac: seems maybe not an alt + tab issue
[10:52] <asac> i click close on mumble -> confirm to close
[10:53] <asac> then i hit alt-tab
[10:53] <asac> and keep it open while mumble disappears
[10:53] <asac> this confuses the hell out of something that then causes the window switcher to stay active
[10:53] <asac> good theory i know :)
[10:53] <didrocks> that's more than possible TBH :-)
[10:54] <asac> i know ... try reproduce
[10:54] <asac> i guess closing somethignt hat closes superslow might be it ... or really related to qt :)
[10:54] <didrocks> and maybe alt + tab is puzzling itself with bamf on the matching while you are removing the item
[10:54] <asac> anyway ... any idea how i can kill this thing :)?
[10:54] <asac> restarting unity maybe?
[10:54] <didrocks> asac: that alt + tab is in the compiz process, so yeah, restarting unity
[10:55] <asac> didrocks: killall unity or what?
[10:55] <didrocks> asac: killall compiz
[10:56] <didrocks> there is no "unity" process, unity is started by compiz with the right profile (the unity one)
[10:56] <jbicha> or just run unity which does the same thing as unity-replace, right?
[10:56] <didrocks> running unity should restart unity (replacing compiz), but compiz seems to hang on stop right now
[10:56] <didrocks> jbicha: ^
[10:57] <asac> didrocks: i had to start compiz again ... but now i have no unity :)
[10:57] <didrocks> asac: how did you start compiz?
[10:58] <didrocks> and where? (in a tty?)
[10:58] <asac> killall compiz locked desktop ... so DISPLAY=:0 compiz on the console
[10:58] <didrocks> asac: that won't work, you won't have the unity profile activated
[10:58] <asac> there must be an easier way to restart unity :-P
[10:58] <didrocks> asac: so, on tty1, ensure all compiz process are killed
[10:59] <didrocks> and run "unity"
[10:59] <asac> kk
[10:59] <didrocks> this export the right profile for you, set the DISPLAY if not set and start compiz…
[10:59] <didrocks> in an awesome dirty python script I wrote :)
[11:02] <asac> ok had to restart lightdm
[11:03] <asac> so there are also still various issues with stacking etc. i often end up the sidebar not sliding in anymore on a workspace with a maximized winndow
[11:03] <asac> i think it still is realted to mumble :)
[11:03] <asac> aka qt
[11:06] <didrocks> asac: yeah, the stacking issue is known and smspillaz is working on it for the past few weeks
[11:10] <asac> cool
[11:10] <asac> happy to see that going away
[11:17] <RAOF> Laney: colord in git master now has almost no Ubuntu delta, and is uploadable to sid; the remaining diff is icc-profiles-free, which isn't yet in sid.
[11:18] <chrisccoulson_> i will be glad when the stacking issues are fixed so i can start using unity again :)
[11:21] <Laney> RAOF: Excellent. I'm at your service for uploading if you so desire.
[11:21] <Laney> Is -free a splitting of icc-profiles?
[11:45] <chrisccoulson> hmmm, really need a faster uplink from my house
[11:46] <dupondje> Should I file a bug against policykit when settings in networkmanager & gnome-control-panel are unavailable when my user's primary group is not the same as the username ?
[11:47] <dupondje> or is that a bug in another package?
[11:52] <jbicha> dupondje: crazy question, but what desktop are you using?
[12:04] <dupondje> jbicha: gnome3
[12:09] <Sweetshark> "error: pack-objects died with strange error" <- git is funny sometimes.
[12:18] <dupondje> jbicha: gtg now :) lets hope it gets fixed :D
[14:04] <chrisccoulson> pitti, would you mind targetting bug  841825 for oneiric? i can't do that :)
[14:04] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 841825 in gcc-4.6 "gcc SIGSEGV when building Firefox and Thunderbird" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/841825
[14:04] <pitti> chrisccoulson: done
[14:04] <chrisccoulson> thanks
[14:05] <didrocks> so, the nautilus desktop windows is showing itself at a very early stage, before it gets its size :/
[14:50] <pitti> didrocks: do you know who would be best to work on bug 839740 ?
[14:50] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 839740 in zeitgeist-extensions "zeitgeist-daemon crashed with RuntimeError in _check_index(): basic_string::assign" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/839740
[14:51] <didrocks> pitti: kamstrup is an upstream, so I guess he's the best fit :)
[14:51] <pitti> didrocks: ah, thanks
[14:51]  * didrocks continues to fight with nautilus :/
[14:51] <pitti> didrocks: ah, merci; assigned
[14:51]  * pitti hands didrocks another spear and club
[14:52] <didrocks> pitti: heh, thanks! :-)
[15:04] <pitti> TTFN, see you tomorrow!
[15:07] <ricotz> pitti, perhaps you could still sync clutter?
[15:08] <ricotz> pitti, first, hello
[15:10] <oier> hi, does the design team also have an irc channel or a mailing list? I have a question for them but don't know how to get in touch with them
[15:11]  * kenvandine waves
[15:19] <jbicha> oier: #ayatana
[15:19] <oier> thanks!
[15:53] <kenvandine> rodrigo__, ping
[15:54] <kenvandine> rodrigo__, can you look at updating gnome-keyring to 3.1.91 ?
[15:54] <kenvandine> it fixes bug 828756
[15:54] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 828756 in gnome-keyring "getting "connection is untrusted" warnings" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/828756
[15:55] <rodrigo__> kenvandine, ok
[15:55] <kenvandine> or jbicha... i see you have your name next to it in etherpad :)
[15:55] <rodrigo__> that's a link to the bug, it seems
[15:55] <kenvandine> rodrigo__, i am heading out for vacation, so will be gone for a coupel weeks :)
[15:56] <rodrigo__> kenvandine, oh, cool! have a good time
[15:56] <rodrigo__> and don't worry, we'll break, I mean update, everything :)
[15:56] <kenvandine> i've been waiting for that release... but now i have no time to update it
[15:56] <kenvandine> hehe
[15:56] <kenvandine> thx!
[15:56] <rodrigo__> kenvandine, don't worry, weither jbicha or I will do it
[15:56]  * kenvandine goes back to packing 
[15:56] <rodrigo__> jbicha, are you working on it?
[16:18] <jbicha> rodrigo__: I had trouble getting it to compile
[16:18] <rodrigo__> jbicha, do you have a branch I can try?
[16:20] <jbicha> rodrigo__: https://code.launchpad.net/~jbicha/ubuntu/oneiric/gnome-keyring/3.91
[16:21] <jbicha> you're welcome to take it, I'm going to be out for several hours for US Labor Day
[16:21] <rodrigo__> jbicha, ok
[16:22] <jbicha> rodrigo__: you can see my buildlog at https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=658249
[16:22] <ubot2`> Gnome bug 658249 in gcr "Fails to build from source (gtk_window_destroy)" [Major,Unconfirmed]
[16:24] <rodrigo__> jbicha, ok
[16:36] <rodrigo__> jbicha, hmm, not sure why it fails, it's linking to GTK correctly
[16:36] <rodrigo__> trying a few things...
[16:39] <jbicha> rodrigo__: yeah it looked like it was linking to gtk3, talk to you later
[16:39] <rodrigo__> jbicha, ok, have fun
[16:42] <chrisccoulson> rodrigo__, did you break the g-s-d volume notifications? ;)
[16:42] <chrisccoulson> no beer for you at UDS! :P
[16:42] <rodrigo__> chrisccoulson, not that I know
[16:43] <rodrigo__> :)
[16:43] <chrisccoulson> rodrigo__, yeah, the latest version only indicates min and max volume ;)
[16:43] <chrisccoulson> i've just fixed it though
[16:43] <rodrigo__> ok thanks
[16:43] <rodrigo__> I guess we needed to rebase the patch
[16:51] <asac> unity alt-tab is again not disappearing :)
[16:52] <asac> this time there was no mumble or nothing getting closed
[16:52] <asac> anyone wants info before i try to restart unity?
[16:54] <victorp> cyphermox_, we have a bug in checkbox that we want to submit a fix for- do we just follow normal process or is there anything extra we need to do?
[16:55] <dpm> pitti, is it ok to re-enable the oneiric langpacks? If it is, I'll go ahead and do it
[17:01]  * didrocks waves goodnight
[17:39] <cyphermox_> victorp: if there is a fix for it, just follow normal process, and close the bug in changelog (but avoid other changes)
[17:40] <cyphermox_> pitti: I have been working on indicator-network today, up to the point that it has some major issues right now but it works enough to be usable
[17:41] <victorp> cyphermox_, thanks
[17:42] <cyphermox_> victorp: sorry for the delay, am technically off today but I was hacking on stuff (and IRC is a good way to test connection things)
[17:42] <cyphermox_> i'll be happy to sponsor checkbox though
[18:03] <dbarth> hmm, anyone here with super powers to speed up a ppa build? https://launchpad.net/~unity-team/+archive/compiz-testing/+builds?build_state=pending
[18:03] <dbarth> thanks in advance
[18:03] <victorp> cyphermox_, thanks - I will ask roadmr or cr3 to catch up with you tomorrow
[18:04] <victorp> dbarth, unfortunately they are all on holidays!!!
[18:12] <dbarth> victorp: ugh, then i guess it's a question of finding someone to lobby in LP admin team
[18:12] <dbarth> thanks for the heads up
[18:17] <dbarth> asac: there is a fix coming for that kind of issue (mumble but other shaped windows trigger a similar race condition)
[18:17] <dbarth> asac: in the ppa i just mentioned (when it's built that is)
[20:22] <asac> dbarth: awesome
[20:23] <micahg> is unity-2d supposed to have the min/max/close buttons in the app window
[20:50] <czajkowski> Aloha
[21:02] <asac> dbarth: that ppa
[21:02] <asac> dbarth: how is that done? is that automatic daily tip?
[21:02] <asac> or something that gets outdated and is not enabled by all DX folks?
[21:03] <asac> i think for rest of oneiric i would be willing to ride the lightning
[21:03] <asac> but wouldnt enable if that is of no benefit or even disturbing etc.