[04:15] Good morning [04:24] Hey pitti. How was your weekend? [04:25] hey TheMuso; pretty nice, we went to Dresden again to visit family and friends [04:25] how was your's? [04:25] pitti: Very nice thanks. We got our first real taste of spring. [04:25] And are still getting it today. [04:36] Aaaah, and here comes the rain! [05:05] Aaand there it goes. Hello, spring! [05:06] heh [06:03] good morning [06:11] bonjour didrocks, ca va? [06:13] guten morgen pitti. Headaches all the week-end (migraines) :/ but fortunatly, it's over now. You? [06:13] didrocks: uh, that sounds bad [06:13] didrocks: we were in Dresden again, visiting family and friends; was really nice [06:13] just a lot of train [06:15] nice :) [06:15] RAOF & robert_ancell I'm guessing the lag I mentioned on my unity-greeter screen is X, but can't nail it down. After about 6-10 seconds of sitting on the screen, the mouse lag goes away and I can move it around nearly flawlessly. [06:29] hey didrocks , morning! [06:30] hey jasoncwarner_ :) [06:30] didrocks: question for you. I find that sometimes the dash and alt-tab have severe stacking issues. They seem to be behind all the windows. I cannot for the life to me find a pattern to it... [06:30] have you noticed this as well? [06:31] jasoncwarner_: indeed, that's part of the "wrong stacking of compiz" that smspillaz is working for the last 4 weeks [06:31] didrocks: ah...any headway? [06:31] ;) [06:31] jasoncwarner_: still not ready from what smspillaz told me [06:31] jasoncwarner_: right now, the only way is to have an empty workspace to get them :) [06:32] jasoncwarner_: or logout/login (even restarting compiz doesn't fix it) [06:32] didrocks: ok...doing that now :) thanks [06:32] jasoncwarner_: yw (it's one of the 3 things to ensure we have a fix before oneiric is released for compiz) [06:49] jasoncwarner_: Is your system heavily loaded during those 6-10 seconds? [06:51] RAOF: I don't know, exactly. You can take a look at my bootchart I sent to get an idea (shoudl be the same etc). I would suspect normal boot process, but I don't know [06:56] Oh, yeah. You had X magically consuming significant CPU in bursts. That's right. [06:58] RAOF: yeah, no idea why... [06:58] RAOF: any clues or thoughts? [06:59] *Generally* when X consumes significant resources it's because a client is making lots of requests; there's no obvious client in your bootchart, though. [07:13] Morning all! [07:20] Sweetshark: Goooooooooood morning! [07:23] hey Sweetshark, wie gehts? [07:26] jasoncwarner_, can you add images to google docs? It's not working for me [07:29] pitti: good, I had an exciting belated late-night flight trough the thunderstorm and lightning that once was hurricane irene ... [07:31] Mmmm, fun! [07:31] robert_ancell: yeah, you should be able to. [07:33] brb [07:53] jasoncwarner_, i get the launcher and dash appearing behind windows quite a lot too [07:54] it makes unity unusable :( [07:54] i had to switch to unity-2d weeks ago because of that :/ [08:03] morning [08:06] hey rodrigo__ [08:07] rodrigo__: FYI, I'm currently working on the gtk+3.0 update [08:08] hi pitti [08:11] hmm, apport thinks g-s-d is crashing all the time, but it's not [08:11] RAOF, the GRUB screen on normal boot is just a purple screen right? [08:11] robert_ancell: are you sure? it's auto-respawning [08:12] hi pitti, how are you? [08:12] hey chrisccoulson! [08:12] chrisccoulson: quite fine, thanks! how about you? [08:12] pitti - yeah, pretty good thanks [08:13] hey robert_ancell, chrisccoulson [08:13] hi didrocks [08:14] robert_ancell: Yes [08:14] * RAOF → pliates. [08:15] hi didrocks, robert_ancell, chrisccoulson [08:15] hi rodrigo__ [08:20] so yeah, apport has become crazy here [08:20] it reports crashes that are not ??? [08:21] rodrigo__: may it be that it's just update-notifier which got crazy, and alerts about them all over again? [08:21] rodrigo__: also, can you please check /var/log/apport.log, whether it actually got crashes/ [08:22] ? [08:22] hmm, not sure, it reports g-s-d crashing, but I have gdb attached to it, and it's not crashing at all [08:22] so what does update-manager have to do? [08:22] update-notifier; it's what calls apport-gtk when a new .crash file appears [08:22] ah, ok [08:22] yeah, that might be then [08:22] but "gone crazy" is a little too unspecific; this needs to be pinpointed more exactly [08:23] I'll reboot as soon as the update is done [08:23] it is *only* the kernel which invokes apport .crash generation [08:23] which is only triggered if a process really exits with e. g. SIGSEGV [08:23] are -dev supposed to depend on their gir1.2- ? [08:23] I've never seen crash reports being written without an actual crash [08:23] xclaesse: yes [08:23] pitti, ok, looking [08:23] pitti, ok libaccountsservice-dev needs fixing then :) [08:24] rodrigo__: what happens often is that something else crashes in the system, and then update-notifier re-shows all the previous ones again, if the crashed one did not belong to the user [08:24] pitti, where are the .crash files written to? [08:24] rodrigo__: /var/crash/ [08:24] ok [08:24] rodrigo__: you can just delete them all, and then see when the next one happens [08:25] ok [08:25] ok, removed all files there, no more notifications for now [08:25] let's see when the next one shows up [08:48] chrisccoulson: you probably didn't see my ping on Friday, but I had a question about the rendering glitches in thunderbird (some part, like the status bar are just transparent) [08:51] pitti: I guess you didn't mean to run update-maintainer on calibre in Debian. [08:51] Laney: erk, no [08:51] heh [08:53] thanks for those packages though, very handy [08:56] didrocks, no, i've not seen that before. does it happen in firefox too? [08:57] I don't use firefox, let me try :) [08:58] chrisccoulson: no issue on firefox [08:58] chrisccoulson: do you want a screenshot? [08:58] didrocks, yes please [08:58] one sec :) [08:59] hi andreasn :) [08:59] i was just writing you an e-mail [08:59] hi chrisccoulson! [08:59] hi. you've been on vacation haven't you? [08:59] yes, for two weeks [08:59] chrisccoulson: hum, weird, I just notice I don't have the theme in this "compose" window, maybe it's because I installed a local one? [08:59] chrisccoulson: can be related as I installed an alpha version of andreasn's theme [08:59] (hey andreasn ;)) [08:59] just got back [08:59] didrocks, yes, most likely [09:00] andreasn, excellent. i hope you're feeling nice and refreshed :) [09:00] chrisccoulson: what's the package name of the system one? [09:00] let me try to remove the local import one [09:00] chrisccoulson, oh yes, very much so [09:00] didrocks, there isn't. it's the default theme now [09:00] andreasn, that's good then [09:00] ok, how to remove the locally installed one? [09:00] andreasn, we're shipping your theme in ubuntu now. everyone really likes it :) [09:01] chrisccoulson, haven't started reading e-mail yet [09:01] removed it, restarting… [09:01] chrisccoulson, cool, great to hear! [09:01] we're actually shipping it as the default theme rather than an extension, for technical reasons, which means we're shipping some quite large distro patches [09:01] chrisccoulson: indeed, no issue anymore, sorry for the noise, didn't think about the theme before pinging you :) [09:02] didrocks: Hey! [09:02] hey lool :) [09:02] lool: back from holidays? [09:02] andreasn, i noticed the patches on bugzilla were slightly outdated compared to your theme extension, so i ended up converting your extension in to an updated set of patches [09:02] didrocks: Yup [09:02] was awesome [09:02] nice to hear :-) [09:02] i'm not sure if you've done that already, but if not, you might want to grab the patches from our package [09:03] didrocks: I have a compiz corruption with xterm again (I'm getting used to them :-) seems like https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/841103 what's the best way to a) fix it b) avoid this from happening again? I imagine I could try something like bisecting some compiz bzr branch? [09:03] Ubuntu bug 841103 in compiz "Text has artifacts when typing something in terminal" [Undecided,Confirmed] [09:03] or git rather [09:03] didrocks, oh, that's good :) [09:03] somebody else noticed gnome-shell crashes since last updates ? [09:04] lool: bisecting will be hard because of some ABI break on the way [09:05] lool: and that actually means rebuilding 8 rdepends, not sure you are eager to try that :) [09:05] lool: there is a "damage" plugin in -extra IIRC, smspillaz ? ^ [09:08] didrocks: lool: showrepaint [09:08] I'm afraid I'll have to ask for details on how to use that [09:09] b'ah, more firefox and thunderbird uploads today. i hope my connection works a bit faster today [09:09] lool: you can get it from lp [09:09] lool: sudo apt-get compiz-dev [09:09] bzr branch lp:compiz-showrepaint-plugin [09:09] cd compiz-showrepaint-plugin [09:09] mkdir build [09:09] cd build [09:09] ccmake .. [09:09] make && make install [09:09] *err, cmake [09:10] and then you enable it in ccsm and toggle it with alt-super-r iirc [09:10] that will show you which screen regions are being redrawn [09:10] it could be a server-side borders problem though [09:12] didrocks: Can't find it searching for repaint after installing -extra, but I see a /usr/share/compiz/firepaint.xml in the package [09:12] Which is to "Paint fire on the screen" [09:12] There is a Force full screen redraws on repaint option though [09:13] but that didn't help [09:13] smspillaz: ok, will try building now; is there a way I can use the plugin without root? I want to be confident that I completely wipe it away after debugging [09:14] lool: you don't need to be root [09:14] lool: all the sudo there was for was to install compiz-dev :) [09:14] Great, thanks [09:14] smspillaz: Would you confirm what I have to do to remove it from ~/.dirs after use? [09:17] RAOF, is apport catching Xorg crashes, or is that known to be broken? [09:17] lool: you're right, it's not on the install target of the meta compiz-plugins project anymore [09:18] RAOF, actually, forget that ;) [09:18] lool: after use, you will need to remove it from ~/.compiz-1/ [09:18] lool: rm -rf ~/.compiz-1 [09:18] dpm: ping? we have a few issues identified as part of the cjk effort that reveal to be translation issues: https://bugs.launchpad.net/zeitgeist/+bug/827420 [09:18] Ubuntu bug 827420 in unity "Unity dash file search returns relevant files and folders but not all as I expect. " [Medium,Invalid] [09:18] dpm: how can we track and hopefully resolve that? [09:18] gosh there are tons of session files in ~/.compiz-1 [09:18] morning dbarth, looking... [09:19] morning ;) [09:19] brb [09:21] dbarth, in these cases, the best thing to do is to add a bug task for the 'ubuntu-translations' project, and from there we assign it to the relevant translation team. I've just done that for this one [09:23] dpm: ah ok, thanks [09:23] dpm: i think there is another one so i'll do the same for this one as well [09:24] dbarth, cool, thanks :) [09:25] chrisccoulson, ah, ok. Where are those patches located? [09:25] andreasn, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/thunderbird/thunderbird-trunk.head/files/head:/debian/patches/ [09:25] it's the "theme-refresh-*" patches [09:25] chrisccoulson, thanks, I'll check them out! [09:26] gnome-shell seems to crash every startup here. Any idea's how I can make a apport bugreport of it ? [09:26] rodrigo__, major pulse bug ? [09:26] apport doesn't popup :( [09:26] rodrigo__, good morning btw :) [09:28] rodrigo__, module-detect-jackdbus in default.pa is loaded twice [09:28] this causes pulse to freak out and exti [09:28] exit [09:28] * Laney hopes indicators get ported to gnome-panel 3 [09:34] * dupondje hops gnome-shell can be fixed :) [09:35] seems like it crashes on gnome-shell-calendar-server [09:37] * didrocks don't like when killing a process bring the terminal down with it… [09:38] ronoc, what pulse bug? [09:38] * ronoc finds the bug no [09:39] ronoc, yes, seems it's loaded twice indeed [09:39] ronoc, is that upstream, or a patch of ours? [09:39] * rodrigo__ looks at the source [09:40] rodrigo__, don't know, the problem is in the default.pa [09:45] ronoc, we add it once in 0012-JACK-Load-module-jackdbus-detect-in-default.pa.patch [09:45] not sure where the 2nd one comes from [09:45] hmm maybe I hacked my default.pa :/ [09:45] ronoc, no, I also have it, and didn't hack it [09:46] not that I remember, at least :) [09:46] ok cool [09:46] ronoc, ah, in the package branch, src/daemon/default.pa.in already has it, so the patch is redundant [09:47] yeah, could we get a fix out immediately ? [09:47] otherwise the bug management will be such a drag for such a silly issue [09:47] and i'm sure we all have other things that need doing :) [09:48] yes, I'll disable the patch [09:48] rodrigo__, thanks a mill [09:48] so actually make installing the plugin doesn't just install into ~/.compiz-1, but also ~/.gconf/schemas/compiz-showrepaint.schemas ~/.config/compiz-1/gsettings/schemas/org.freedesktop.compiz.showrepaint.gschema.xml and updates common schemas [09:49] rodrigo__, what patch? [09:49] rodrigo__, the work is already done and committed to lp:~ubuntu-audio-dev/pulseaudio/ubuntu.oneiric [09:49] diwic, debian/patches/0012-JACK-Load-module-jackdbus-detect-in-default.pa.patch [09:49] All I need is someone to upload [09:49] diwic, ah ok [09:49] diwic, I'll upload it then [09:50] rodrigo__, thanks :-) [09:50] rodrigo__, diwic, sweet [09:50] diwic, hmm, you don't have permissions? [09:51] diwic, I don't have upload rights [09:51] rodrigo__, no, but given today's issue maybe I should apply for them [09:51] I think I have, let's see [09:52] didrocks, smspillaz: So I've installed and enabled the plugin; alt-super-r doesn't seem to trigger anything, I see the same corruption as before, all in white [09:53] diwic, no, I don't have neither [09:53] so maybe pitti can do the upload, pitti? [09:53] rodrigo__: what's up? [09:53] pitti: can you sponsor lp:~ubuntu-audio-dev/pulseaudio/ubuntu.oneiric ? [09:54] rodrigo__: sure, can do [09:54] pitti, thanks [09:55] rodrigo__: I can't push the debcommit -r, though [09:55] diwic: can you do dch -r / debcommit -r? [09:55] pitti, no, it's a lp:ubuntu branch AFAIK [09:55] pitti, sure [09:55] rodrigo__: no, ~ubuntu-audio-dev [09:55] diwic: ah, nevermind, seems I can push [09:55] right, I meant the package branch for pulseaudio [09:56] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/841399 please check this :D [09:56] Ubuntu bug 841399 in gnome-shell "gnome-shell segfault error 4 in libgobject-2.0.so.0.2918.0" [Undecided,Confirmed] [09:56] pitti, think all core devs can push to ubuntu-audio-dev [09:57] diwic: uploaded/pushed [09:59] pitti, \o/ [10:10] need to reboot, bbiab [10:11] hum, ppas are really really busy :/ still 9 hours of wait before building Qt… [10:12] didrocks: I'm happy to bump build score for something you block on [10:13] pitti: yes please, especially because of missing tcpserver (seems they don't ship it anymore? investigating why… no changelog, commit found for that), so will need a lot of tries I guess: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/+archive/ppa/+packages qt4-x11 please :) [10:13] didrocks: just send me the URLs of the builds [10:14] like https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/+archive/ppa/+build/2765970? (just one arch is enough) [10:14] pitti: ^ [10:14] didrocks: bumped [10:14] thanks :) [10:14] didrocks: PPA URL is enough [10:14] pitti: In that case, can you bump: https://launchpad.net/~james-page/+archive/oneiric/+build/2766025 :) (Settles a disagreement regarding local builds, don't want to sponsor it until it works in a PPA) [10:14] didrocks: ah, only need i386? [10:14] didrocks: de-bumped amd64 [10:14] pitti: well, both are fine, it's just one is enough for me testing now :) [10:15] Daviey: down to 1 h [10:15] sorry, the i386 buildds are really being Mozilla'ed right now :/ [10:17] pitti: thanks! Sorry for the OT. :) [10:17] Daviey: np :) [10:33] hmm. i have the app switcher (alt+tab) of unity not going away and i cannot reach the apps anymore :) luckily my terminal is to front [10:34] anybody interested in some info? [10:37] asac: yes...any and all bugs! Pedro and didrocks, want to talk to asac? [10:38] cool. just need to know what info to extract here [10:39] asac: xwininfo -all and click on the alt + tab [10:40] * didrocks looks if there is debug info for alt + tab in dbus… [10:41] asac: it seems there is no dbus info for alt + tab though :/ (can't find anything on d-feet), DBO wrote it, you should ping him when he's there to know exactly what else he needs if he has more tweaks in the code [10:43] I got a small question, on what package should I file a bug for this: 'if my user is not in its own group, then everything in the gnome-control-panel en networkmanager is grayed out' [10:43] can't change anything ... [10:48] didrocks: i wont be able to keep this situation forever :) [10:48] i need to be able to get my browser to front [10:48] let me get the xininfo -all if you say thats helpful [10:51] didrocks: so xwininfo -all doesnt dump anything when hitting alt+tab etc === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch [10:51] i tried clicking on the big app icons i see then it dumped sommething [10:51] but i think its not that window [10:52] didrocks: i have an idea [10:52] so i can still switch by selecting the right app and then clicking on background [10:52] the problem is that i still see mumble here :) [10:52] and that doesnt exist anymore [10:52] so my theory is: [10:52] asac: seems maybe not an alt + tab issue [10:52] i click close on mumble -> confirm to close [10:53] then i hit alt-tab [10:53] and keep it open while mumble disappears [10:53] this confuses the hell out of something that then causes the window switcher to stay active [10:53] good theory i know :) [10:53] that's more than possible TBH :-) [10:54] i know ... try reproduce [10:54] i guess closing somethignt hat closes superslow might be it ... or really related to qt :) [10:54] and maybe alt + tab is puzzling itself with bamf on the matching while you are removing the item [10:54] anyway ... any idea how i can kill this thing :)? [10:54] restarting unity maybe? [10:54] asac: that alt + tab is in the compiz process, so yeah, restarting unity [10:55] didrocks: killall unity or what? [10:55] asac: killall compiz [10:56] there is no "unity" process, unity is started by compiz with the right profile (the unity one) [10:56] or just run unity which does the same thing as unity-replace, right? [10:56] running unity should restart unity (replacing compiz), but compiz seems to hang on stop right now [10:56] jbicha: ^ [10:57] didrocks: i had to start compiz again ... but now i have no unity :) [10:57] asac: how did you start compiz? [10:58] and where? (in a tty?) [10:58] killall compiz locked desktop ... so DISPLAY=:0 compiz on the console [10:58] asac: that won't work, you won't have the unity profile activated [10:58] there must be an easier way to restart unity :-P [10:58] asac: so, on tty1, ensure all compiz process are killed [10:59] and run "unity" [10:59] kk [10:59] this export the right profile for you, set the DISPLAY if not set and start compiz… [10:59] in an awesome dirty python script I wrote :) [11:02] ok had to restart lightdm [11:03] so there are also still various issues with stacking etc. i often end up the sidebar not sliding in anymore on a workspace with a maximized winndow [11:03] i think it still is realted to mumble :) [11:03] aka qt [11:06] asac: yeah, the stacking issue is known and smspillaz is working on it for the past few weeks [11:10] cool [11:10] happy to see that going away [11:17] Laney: colord in git master now has almost no Ubuntu delta, and is uploadable to sid; the remaining diff is icc-profiles-free, which isn't yet in sid. [11:18] i will be glad when the stacking issues are fixed so i can start using unity again :) === chrisccoulson_ is now known as chrisccoulson [11:21] RAOF: Excellent. I'm at your service for uploading if you so desire. [11:21] Is -free a splitting of icc-profiles? [11:45] hmmm, really need a faster uplink from my house [11:46] Should I file a bug against policykit when settings in networkmanager & gnome-control-panel are unavailable when my user's primary group is not the same as the username ? [11:47] or is that a bug in another package? [11:52] dupondje: crazy question, but what desktop are you using? [12:04] jbicha: gnome3 [12:09] "error: pack-objects died with strange error" <- git is funny sometimes. [12:18] jbicha: gtg now :) lets hope it gets fixed :D [14:04] pitti, would you mind targetting bug 841825 for oneiric? i can't do that :) [14:04] Launchpad bug 841825 in gcc-4.6 "gcc SIGSEGV when building Firefox and Thunderbird" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/841825 [14:04] chrisccoulson: done [14:04] thanks [14:05] so, the nautilus desktop windows is showing itself at a very early stage, before it gets its size :/ === dpm is now known as dpm__ === dpm_ is now known as dpm [14:50] didrocks: do you know who would be best to work on bug 839740 ? [14:50] Launchpad bug 839740 in zeitgeist-extensions "zeitgeist-daemon crashed with RuntimeError in _check_index(): basic_string::assign" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/839740 [14:51] pitti: kamstrup is an upstream, so I guess he's the best fit :) [14:51] didrocks: ah, thanks [14:51] * didrocks continues to fight with nautilus :/ [14:51] didrocks: ah, merci; assigned [14:51] * pitti hands didrocks another spear and club [14:52] pitti: heh, thanks! :-) [15:04] TTFN, see you tomorrow! [15:07] pitti, perhaps you could still sync clutter? [15:08] pitti, first, hello [15:10] hi, does the design team also have an irc channel or a mailing list? I have a question for them but don't know how to get in touch with them [15:11] * kenvandine waves [15:19] oier: #ayatana [15:19] thanks! [15:53] rodrigo__, ping [15:54] rodrigo__, can you look at updating gnome-keyring to 3.1.91 ? [15:54] it fixes bug 828756 [15:54] Launchpad bug 828756 in gnome-keyring "getting "connection is untrusted" warnings" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/828756 [15:55] kenvandine, ok [15:55] or jbicha... i see you have your name next to it in etherpad :) [15:55] that's a link to the bug, it seems [15:55] rodrigo__, i am heading out for vacation, so will be gone for a coupel weeks :) [15:56] kenvandine, oh, cool! have a good time [15:56] and don't worry, we'll break, I mean update, everything :) [15:56] i've been waiting for that release... but now i have no time to update it [15:56] hehe [15:56] thx! [15:56] kenvandine, don't worry, weither jbicha or I will do it [15:56] * kenvandine goes back to packing [15:56] jbicha, are you working on it? === njpatel_ is now known as njpatel [16:18] rodrigo__: I had trouble getting it to compile [16:18] jbicha, do you have a branch I can try? [16:20] rodrigo__: https://code.launchpad.net/~jbicha/ubuntu/oneiric/gnome-keyring/3.91 [16:21] you're welcome to take it, I'm going to be out for several hours for US Labor Day [16:21] jbicha, ok [16:22] rodrigo__: you can see my buildlog at https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=658249 [16:22] Gnome bug 658249 in gcr "Fails to build from source (gtk_window_destroy)" [Major,Unconfirmed] [16:24] jbicha, ok [16:36] jbicha, hmm, not sure why it fails, it's linking to GTK correctly [16:36] trying a few things... [16:39] rodrigo__: yeah it looked like it was linking to gtk3, talk to you later [16:39] jbicha, ok, have fun [16:42] rodrigo__, did you break the g-s-d volume notifications? ;) [16:42] no beer for you at UDS! :P [16:42] chrisccoulson, not that I know [16:43] :) [16:43] rodrigo__, yeah, the latest version only indicates min and max volume ;) [16:43] i've just fixed it though [16:43] ok thanks [16:43] I guess we needed to rebase the patch [16:51] unity alt-tab is again not disappearing :) [16:52] this time there was no mumble or nothing getting closed [16:52] anyone wants info before i try to restart unity? [16:54] cyphermox_, we have a bug in checkbox that we want to submit a fix for- do we just follow normal process or is there anything extra we need to do? [16:55] pitti, is it ok to re-enable the oneiric langpacks? If it is, I'll go ahead and do it [17:01] * didrocks waves goodnight [17:39] victorp: if there is a fix for it, just follow normal process, and close the bug in changelog (but avoid other changes) [17:40] pitti: I have been working on indicator-network today, up to the point that it has some major issues right now but it works enough to be usable [17:41] cyphermox_, thanks [17:42] victorp: sorry for the delay, am technically off today but I was hacking on stuff (and IRC is a good way to test connection things) [17:42] i'll be happy to sponsor checkbox though [18:03] hmm, anyone here with super powers to speed up a ppa build? https://launchpad.net/~unity-team/+archive/compiz-testing/+builds?build_state=pending [18:03] thanks in advance [18:03] cyphermox_, thanks - I will ask roadmr or cr3 to catch up with you tomorrow [18:04] dbarth, unfortunately they are all on holidays!!! [18:12] victorp: ugh, then i guess it's a question of finding someone to lobby in LP admin team [18:12] thanks for the heads up [18:17] asac: there is a fix coming for that kind of issue (mumble but other shaped windows trigger a similar race condition) [18:17] asac: in the ppa i just mentioned (when it's built that is) [20:22] dbarth: awesome [20:23] is unity-2d supposed to have the min/max/close buttons in the app window [20:50] Aloha [21:02] dbarth: that ppa [21:02] dbarth: how is that done? is that automatic daily tip? [21:02] or something that gets outdated and is not enabled by all DX folks? [21:03]