[15:00] <roadmr> hey folks! looks it's time for the Ubuntu Friendly meeting!
[15:01] <roadmr> #startmeeting
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[15:01] <roadmr> hm, new bot...
[15:01]  * holstein would like to thank akgraner officially for presenting at our LUG yesterday about ubuntu friendly
[15:01] <holstein> http://www.wnclug.info/2011/08/ubuntu-friendly_30.html
[15:02] <victorp> o/
[15:02] <roadmr> victorp, go ahead
[15:02] <victorp> I would like to say thanks too to akgraner!
[15:02] <victorp>  ;)
[15:03] <victorp> roadmr, what is the agenda for today?
[15:03] <victorp> ..
[15:03] <roadmr> ok, first topic on the agenda
[15:04] <roadmr> [TOPIC] Ubuntu Friendly sprint and comments on the mockups for the websites
[15:05] <roadmr> As you probably know there was an Ubuntu Friendly sprint last week, and a big push was done towards having all the Ubuntu Friendly components ready
[15:05] <roadmr> Ara kept a detailed log of work done for the UF sprint on her blog, here's the link if you want to have a look:
[15:05] <roadmr> [LINK] http://arapulido.com/
[15:06] <roadmr> the blog includes mockups from the website, and the ones shown there are pretty close to what the actual website looks / will look like, so if you'd like to comment, either here or on the mailing list, we'd really appreciate it.
[15:07] <akgraner> o/
[15:07] <roadmr> akgraner, go!
[15:07] <akgraner> I like it!  It even makes sense to me  --and the mobile stuff +1
[15:08] <akgraner> and once I can play around on the site even better...
[15:08] <akgraner> ...
[15:09] <roadmr> thanks! it's not just mockups, an actual working version of the website is in the works and it looks great, we'll announce on the mailing list when it's available for playing with.
[15:09] <akgraner> thank you!
[15:10] <akgraner> ...
[15:10] <roadmr> well, a lot of UF memberd pitched in, so it's been great teamwork on this.
[15:11] <roadmr> So if there are no further comments on this topic (but please remember that we welcome all feedback on the mailing list as well, if you need more time to look at things), let's move on...
[15:12] <roadmr> [TOPIC] Ubuntu Global Jam and Ubuntu Friendly
[15:13] <roadmr> As I understand it the UGJ was this weekend, and I remember there were going to be some talks about UF. I thought it'd be good to hear something about that here, if anyone can comment on it.
[15:13] <akgraner> o/
[15:13] <roadmr> akgraner: go ahead!
[15:14] <akgraner> The new system testing failed on Oneiric in 3d - so I fell back to Natty and ara's blog posts
[15:14] <akgraner> the LUG group I presented it to was really excited and they are looking forward to giving you all feedback
[15:15] <akgraner> I will be blogging about it all later today after App Dev Week Day one has ended - but over all the comments were good
[15:15] <akgraner> and people are looking forward to participating
[15:15] <akgraner> ...
[15:15] <roadmr> Awesome, thanks! Looking forward to reading the blog entry on that!
[15:16] <akgraner> I'll drop the link in here and the mailing list as well
[15:16] <akgraner> ...
[15:17] <akgraner> I meant -quality
[15:17] <akgraner> ..
[15:17] <roadmr> thanks, much appreciated!
[15:18] <roadmr> anyone else on UGJ? questions for akgraner maybe?
[15:20] <roadmr> ok then, thanks so much for the report akgraner. And apologies on the trouble with system testing on Oneiric, which is actually next topic on the agenda today...
[15:20] <roadmr> [TOPIC] System testing on Oneiric Beta 1 and beyond
[15:20] <roadmr> First, we have some reports that checkbox (system testing) fails to start on Oneiric, we're tracking down the causes and will have a fix in a bit.
[15:21] <victorp> o/
[15:21] <roadmr> Also, the actual list of tests that will be done as part of Ubuntu Friendly will be in checkbox 0.12.5, I thought this was supposed to ship with Beta 1 but I have reports that b1 still has version 0.12.4.
[15:21] <roadmr>  I'll announce in the mailing list when 0.12.5 is available as an update, as we would really appreciate feedback on the tests that run by default.
[15:21] <IdleOne> o/
[15:22] <roadmr> victorp, go ahead
[15:22] <victorp> 12.0.5 intalls when you do update
[15:22] <victorp> so
[15:22] <victorp> I have installed
[15:22] <victorp> b1 and works fine if you do not update
[15:23] <victorp> as soon as you install updates system testing stops working
[15:23] <victorp> as reported by akgraner
[15:23] <victorp> I wonder if it is a problem with 12.0.5
[15:23] <victorp> anyhow, once this is fixed
[15:23] <victorp> we really need people to submit their systems
[15:23] <victorp> so we can test the website with real data
[15:24] <victorp> maybe we can send an email when it is fixed and with instructions to update to the latest version
[15:24] <victorp> ..
[15:24] <roadmr> thanks for the info, will be helpful in pinpointing the cause of the problem!
[15:25] <roadmr> yes, we'll try to get this fixed and published ASAP
[15:25] <akgraner> o/
[15:25] <roadmr> #action checkbox developers to email when system testing problem is fixed with instructions on how to get the fix running
[15:25] <meetingology> ACTION: checkbox developers to email when system testing problem is fixed with instructions on how to get the fix running
[15:26] <roadmr> IdleOne: go ahead!
[15:26] <IdleOne> sorry was going to say I am testing checkbox-cli and it seems to be working but it isn't for me.
[15:26] <IdleOne> so, no good news.
[15:26] <IdleOne> ..
[15:27] <roadmr> IdleOne: yep, it's only with the gtk interface.
[15:27] <roadmr> If you're interested in following progress solving this, look at this launchpad bug
[15:27] <roadmr> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/checkbox/+bug/839675
[15:28] <IdleOne> -gtk won't even start, thanks for the link.
[15:28] <roadmr> akgraner: go ahead!
[15:28] <akgraner> one I should have checked and tested my system earlier on Friday before my presentation, but also is there a list of who to ping during a milestone over a weekend when things go wrong?
[15:29] <akgraner> asking the community to test then not knowing who to ping during the milestone is/was frustrating a little
[15:29] <akgraner> ...
[15:30] <roadmr> akgraner, well that would be useful to have, some of us may be hanging around during the weekend and may be able to help. We'll see if it's possible to create such a list.
[15:30] <victorp> o/
[15:30] <akgraner> thank you - not all weekends just during major milestones :-)
[15:30] <akgraner> ...
[15:31] <roadmr> victorp: go ahead!
[15:31] <victorp> should akgraner not just email uf control?
[15:31] <roadmr> yep exactly what I was going to say (not poaching victorp's idea, honest!)
[15:32] <victorp> hehe
[15:32] <victorp> ..
[15:32] <roadmr> akgraner: if there's trouble with system testing you can always email ubuntu-friendly mailing list, it's very closely monitored by checkbox developers too
[15:32] <akgraner> noted - and will do thanks
[15:32] <akgraner> ..
[15:33] <roadmr> we could also potentially report showstopper bugs in checkbox to the mailing list, but I'd hesitate to do that as it will be a lot of technobabble
[15:34] <roadmr> so maybe a quick heads-up on the mailing list when checkbox has serious trouble would be worth it, all interested parties keep their eye on the list.
[15:35] <roadmr> any more comments on system testing on Oneiric?
[15:36] <roadmr> ok then, let's move on to...
[15:36] <roadmr> [TOPIC] Any Other Business
[15:37] <roadmr> got something to share with the Ubuntu Friendly community? now's the chance!
[15:39] <roadmr> nothing? :)
[15:39] <roadmr> well then, let's wrap up. Don't forget that you can always speak up on the next meeting, or on the ubuntu-friendly mailing list. We like to get feedback!
[15:40] <roadmr> thanks everyone for showing up, we really appreciate your comments and participation, we'll get working on the agreed actions, see you next time!
[15:41] <roadmr> #endmeeting
[15:41] <meetingology> Meeting ended Mon Sep  5 15:41:01 2011 UTC.
[15:41] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2011/ubuntu-meeting.2011-09-05-15.01.moin.txt
[15:41] <akgraner> roadmr, thank you! great meeting
[15:43] <roadmr> akgraner: thanks ! yep, we had some interesting stuff to discuss