[00:26] <valorin> Can someone give this bug some loving? It's really annoying and I'd like to get it seen by the right people: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/834248
[00:27] <valorin> It's been present since Natty: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/755842
[00:37] <apw> are we aware of compiz going into a flat spin consuming 100% CPU on login?
[00:45] <kscloud> unabashed self-promotion if someome might want to look it over: https://lists.launchpad.net/ayatana/msg06519.html
[01:26] <valorin> Can someone give this bug some loving? It's really annoying and I'd like to get it seen by the right people: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/834248
[02:10] <Victor_> Unity is taking really long to compile. How long [in average] does it take on your machines?
[05:29] <valorin> Anyone around to take a look at a bug for me?
[05:48] <didrocks> good morning
[06:09] <valorin> Anyone around to take a look at a bug for me?
[08:58] <Andy80> 'morning
[09:07] <ephan> morning Andy80
[09:16] <oier> hi, I am looking for some kind of guideline or specification document about indicators status colors
[09:16] <oier> AFAIK the informative status for oneiric has changed to blue, I would like to know which kind of blue it is for instance
[09:17] <oier> and lastly, since I maintain an indicator, if the one in Natty should turn green and the Oneiric version blue
[09:20] <sbte> hi, is it possible to change the behaviour of a launcher entry itself through the launcher API?
[10:21] <kamstrup> sbte: no - or depends what you have in mind exactly...
[10:57] <kamstrup> didrocks: so lp:compiz-core/oneiric FTBFS... is it you or smspillaz I need to punk?
[10:59] <didrocks> kamstrup: this branch is smspillaz
[10:59] <didrocks> kamstrup: I'm lp:compiz
[10:59] <kamstrup> didrocks: not lp:compiz-core?
[11:00] <didrocks> not that one :) all that are smspillaz's projects
[11:00] <kamstrup> dude... there are so many lp:compiz* branches and projects... it's a jungle
[11:04] <sbte> kamstrup, I want the launcher entry to unhide a hidden instance instead of starting a new one
[11:05] <didrocks> kamstrup: the project is a jungle itself :)
[11:05] <didrocks> kamstrup: smspillaz created an upstream project for every plugin IIRC
[11:05] <sbte> the quicklist is there on the entry, so it's at least aware that the program is started
[11:06] <kamstrup> sbte: ah so you want some way to raise your app similarly to when the launcher icon is clicked?
[11:06] <sbte> no, clicking the icon currently starts a new instance
[11:07] <sbte> because the app is hidden
[11:07] <sbte> in the messaging menu actually
[11:07] <sbte> i want clicking the icon to show the hidden instance instead of starting a new one
[11:09] <jjardon> rodrigo_: ping
[11:11] <rodrigo_> jjardon, pong
[11:11] <jjardon> rodrigo_: hey, I wonder if you have problem loading the datetime panel in g-c-c
[11:12] <jjardon> problems*
[11:12] <rodrigo_> jjardon, let me try
[11:13] <rodrigo_> jjardon, works fine, but this is in gnome-shell
[11:13] <rodrigo_> jjardon, you mean the upstream one, or the indicator-datetime one?
[11:13] <jjardon> rodrigo_: oh, I mean the unity datetime, the indicator-datetime
[11:13] <rodrigo_> let me try that one
[11:14] <jjardon> stop working here and maybe is because some change upstream
[11:14] <jjardon> or something is wrong in my system ;)
[11:14] <rodrigo_> jjardon, it loads ok also
[11:14] <rodrigo_> jjardon, this is with the very latest g-c-c (3.1.91)
[11:15] <rodrigo_> jjardon, any output on the terminal related to that?
[11:22] <kamstrup> sbte: sounds mostly like BAMF has problems detecting that your app is already running - do you have a .desktop file for it?
[11:22] <kamstrup> (that you can maybe pastebin?)
[11:23] <sbte> kamstrup, yep, and there's also an option to run it single instance, but I want only the launcher to trigger that option
[11:24] <sbte> kamstrup, /usr/share/emesene/emesene/data/share/applications/emesene.desktop
[11:24] <sbte> that's the desktop file
[11:24] <sbte> if you have emesene installed
[11:26] <sbte> problem is that it's started, but that it doesn't have any active windows
[11:26] <sbte> so the launcher doesn't know that it's there
[11:27] <sbte> but most people tend to lock it to the launcher
[11:27] <kamstrup> sbte: Are you certain that is the problem? And not fx. that you are changing the process name?
[11:27] <sbte> and click the icon multiple times, starting multiple instances of emesene without knowing
[11:28] <sbte> kamstrup, yes, we allow multiple instances, and there's a command line option to disable it, but I want to disable it only for the unity launcher
[11:28] <kamstrup> sbte: you could also have a switch to the executable like --show that checked for a running instance and then showed that?
[11:28] <kamstrup> then put emesene --show in the .desktop
[11:28] <sbte> other distros/oses/starting options should be able to use the multiple instance option by default
[11:29] <rodrigo_> jjardon, I need to go now for a bit, try to look for some message in the output, and if you don't find the cause, ping me later, ok?
[11:29] <sbte> kamstrup, we already have the -s option, but we don't want to enable it by default
[11:29] <sbte> our problem is just people that have emesene locked in their launcher and wonder why they get 50 notification when someone talks to them
[11:30] <sbte> hence my question if you can change the behaviour of the launcher only by using the launcher API
[11:31] <sbte> we DON'T want to change the desktop file, because that will affect other distributions too where this is no issue, because the unity launcher/messaging menu aren't used
[11:41] <kamstrup> sbte: ok, i see. I don't have a solution then... you could request that the ubuntu packages be distro patched to add -s to the .desktop file, but I guess that's not exactly the solution you had hoped for
[11:47] <kamstrup> smspillaz: right now - when I run 'unity' inside my jhbuild env, it looks mostly like compiz starts without any plugins...
[11:47] <jjardon> rodrigo_: thanks, but It was a problem in my system. Sorry for bother you
[11:48] <smspillaz> kamstrup: ah
[11:48] <smspillaz> kamstrup: you're using lp:compiz-core right ?
[12:52] <htorque> Trevinho: bug 841609 → sure, but do you mean today, this week, month?
[13:07] <JohnLea> andyrock; has your patch for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/727901 landed?
[13:07] <andyrock> JohnLea, no...
[13:08] <andyrock> i'm waiting DBO's answer
[13:08] <DBO> uhm
[13:08] <DBO> let me find an answer for you
[13:09] <andyrock> JohnLea, btw thx for the clarifications about devices managament in the bug report :)
[13:09] <JohnLea> np, thx for fixing
[13:10] <andyrock> just one quick question: if a virtual device is blacklisted but "mounted" it should not be shown in dash right?
[13:10] <njpatel> cdbs, has the apt-daemon side of your merge proposal for SC been merged and in Oneiric?
[13:12] <jcastro> hey cdbs
[13:13] <jcastro> you had a list of quicklists for oneiric, is the spec up to date with what was accomplished?
[13:17] <JohnLea> andyrock; if a user has chosen to not have a mounted device in the Launcher, it should not be displayed in the Launcher.  However *all* mounted devices should always be displayed in the Dash File Lens 'folders' category header.  This how users can add them to the Launcher if they choose, or add them back to the launcher if they earlier removed them and then changed their mind.
[13:18] <JohnLea> andyrock; does that make sense?
[13:18] <andyrock> JohnLea, just one note
[13:19] <andyrock>  However *all* mounted devices should always be displayed in the Dash File Lens 'folders'
[13:19] <andyrock> maybe
[13:19] <andyrock> all mounted removable (or virtual devices)
[13:19] <andyrock> the un-removable devices imho should be always shown
[13:20] <JohnLea> andyrock; yes, basically everything that is currently accessible should always be shown in the Dash file lens
[13:20] <JohnLea> that includes un-removable devices
[13:20] <andyrock> ok ok...
[13:20] <andyrock> now i've the I have the full picture ;)
[13:21] <JohnLea> but not a usb key that is currently in your pocket, or a CD that is not in the drive
[13:21] <JohnLea> cool ;-)
[13:21] <JohnLea> andyrock; one other question...
[13:21] <JohnLea> just reviewing bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/764460 but it is impossible to test because bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/764641 as not yet been implemented.  Should I revert to triaged?
[13:22] <andyrock> DBO is merging this branch right now :)
[13:22] <andyrock> if it find some problems with my branch you change this bug status to invalid (or triaged i don't really know)
[13:23] <andyrock> however it's not totally fixed so fix-committed is not the best bug status
[13:23] <andyrock> there still is a small race condition
[13:24] <andyrock> an xdnd problem, other toolkits have the same problem
[13:24] <andyrock> so i think that triaged is the best bug status :)
[13:58] <jcastro> hey njpatel
[14:01] <njpatel> hey jcastro
[14:01] <jcastro> njpatel: lenses api!
[14:02] <njpatel> jcastro, kamstrup is working on making python work, and I'm doing a app developer thing on Friday, so basically, it'll be done by then very latest
[14:02] <jcastro> jawesome dude
[14:09] <roignac> guys, a question on lenses api
[14:10] <roignac> will libunity-4.0 be available in natty - or devs will have to wite two versions of lenses for oneiric and natty?
[14:34] <Cimi> njpatel: ping
[14:35] <Cimi> njpatel: remember the issue with the menubar/indicator items? I added 1px offset to them, but after seeing the indicator session menuitem (you can see there's 1px offset on the right, before the end of the panel), I had the real feeling that the dropdown menu was misplaced
[14:36] <Cimi> njpatel: andyrock told me that in unity-panel-service there's 1px of offset, which confirms my theory
[14:36] <Cimi> njpatel: and it's weird
[14:36] <njpatel> Cimi, okay, patch it?
[14:36] <Cimi> njpatel: my proposal is to remove the offset from unity drawing code
[14:37] <Cimi> njpatel: and explain me why there's a 1px of offset here
[14:37] <Cimi> in unity-panel-service
[14:37] <andyrock> Cimi: not in unity-panel-service
[14:37] <andyrock> :)
[14:37] <Cimi> andyrock: where?
[14:37] <andyrock> in PanelIndicatorObjectEntryView
[14:37] <Cimi> ok njpatel ^
[14:37] <njpatel> Cimi, I don't know, it's been too long since I've worked on that
[14:37] <andyrock> but the real drawing is in unity-panel-service
[14:37] <njpatel> there is probably a comment there if there is a magic number
[14:40] <andyrock> njpatel, 142	
[14:40] <andyrock> void PanelIndicatorObjectEntryView::Activate()
[14:40] <andyrock> 143	
[14:40] <andyrock> {
[14:40] <andyrock> 144	
[14:40] <andyrock>   proxy_->ShowMenu(GetAbsoluteGeometry().x + 1, //cairo translation FIXME: Make this into one function
[14:40] <andyrock> 145	
[14:40] <andyrock>                    GetAbsoluteGeometry().y + PANEL_HEIGHT,
[14:40] <andyrock> 146	
[14:40] <andyrock>                    time(NULL),
[14:40] <andyrock> 147	
[14:40] <andyrock>                    1);
[14:40] <andyrock> 148	
[14:40] <andyrock> }
[14:40] <njpatel> if it's no longer needed, just remove it?
[14:41] <Cimi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/683587/
[14:42] <Cimi> andyrock: could you pls test it?
[14:42] <Cimi> andyrock: feel free to take the code and merge request it, I can approve it
[14:42] <Cimi> (if works)
[14:43] <andyrock> Cimi, there is another "+ 1" in the same file...
[14:43] <andyrock> i will do it
[14:43] <Cimi> uh
[14:43] <Cimi> andyrock: so, remove that +1 too
[14:43] <andyrock> there is a bug on #lp?
[14:43] <andyrock> LP
[14:43] <Cimi> no
[14:44] <Cimi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/683588/
[15:00] <ach1m_> njpatel, hi, is that bug on your "radar" https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/837432 ?
[15:05] <Cimi> ach1m_: it's such a small bug, leave it for the future weeks
[15:06] <ach1m_> Cimi, okay :-)
[15:06] <Cimi> andyrock: did I kill your unity?
[15:07] <andyrock> Cimi, unity compilation time is huge :)
[15:07] <andyrock> i've a dual core
[15:07] <Cimi> me too
[15:08] <andyrock> done...
[15:08] <andyrock> i've to post a screenshot here?
[15:08] <andyrock> but for me it looks good
[15:09] <Trevinho> htorque: I guess as soon as possible...
[15:10] <Trevinho> htorque: however I just I've to to use another partition to check it?
[15:11] <Andy80> andyrock: lucky me... it takes a couple of minutes with Unity-2d :D
[15:11] <andyrock> Andy80, 6-7 minutes for me... :(
[15:12] <Andy80> andyrock: even less if I only modify 1-2 files
[15:13] <Trevinho> Andyrock did you play with some indicators related code?
[15:13] <andyrock> Trevinho, why? :)
[15:14] <Trevinho> Because something could change there.... https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/unity/indicators-redesign/+merge/70818
[15:15] <Trevinho> Ah... OK I saw that
[15:16] <Trevinho> andyrock: the plus one thing fixes the event issue on first pixel?
[15:17] <andyrock> Trevinho, i think not...
[15:17] <andyrock> it's a cimi work btw
[15:18] <Trevinho> ah, ok
[15:18] <Trevinho> Ah, also if I guess it's just related to the entry menu position
[15:18] <Cimi> Trevinho: you always do enormous patches, these are more difficult to review
[15:19] <Trevinho> Cimi: I know that, but that is a complete redesign
[15:19] <Cimi> ok then
[15:19] <Trevinho> it needs lots of things to be adjusted
[15:19] <Cimi> ok
[15:19] <Cimi> andyrock: if the patch works, I can approve it
[15:20] <andyrock> http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/707/screenshot20at202011090.png
[15:20] <Cimi> os ri can do the merge
[15:20] <andyrock> Cimi, ^^^
[15:20] <andyrock> and https://code.launchpad.net/~andyrock/unity/removes-plus-one/+merge/74244
[15:20] <Cimi> andyrock: topright indocator touches the screen^
[15:20] <Cimi> ?
[15:20] <Cimi> the gear
[15:20] <Trevinho> andyrock: you still have the network menu as last item... ohoh... :P
[15:20] <andyrock> Trevinho, why^
[15:21] <Cimi> andyrock: ?
[15:21] <andyrock> Cimi, yes
[15:21] <Cimi> ok, perfect then
[15:21] <andyrock> let me post another screen
[15:23] <andyrock> Cimi, http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/707/screenshot20at202011090.png
[15:23] <andyrock> the cut cursor is a screenshot bug :)
[15:24] <andyrock> not a unity problem...
[15:24] <Trevinho> andyrock: new order http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/703/indicatorsreordered.png/ :P
[15:24] <Cimi> yep
[15:24] <Cimi> cool
[15:24] <Cimi> Trevinho: use geany
[15:24] <andyrock> Trevinho, great!
[15:24] <Cimi> Trevinho: it kicks gedit's ass
[15:25] <andyrock> Trevinho, add a gsettings option to change indicator position too
[15:25] <Trevinho> andyrock: I would like that
[15:25] <Trevinho> but I don't know if it's something requested
[15:25] <andyrock> to make ubuntu more flame free
[15:25] <Trevinho> or that can be handled easier yet
[15:26] <Trevinho> The fact is that actually only the indicators based on libappindicator have a name to be used to easily order them
[15:26] <Trevinho> otherwise I should use in the settings the tuple libraryname,indicator-name
[15:26] <Trevinho> and that sucks
[15:26] <Trevinho> maybe in next cycle I'll add that.
[15:27] <Trevinho> Cimi: I know I should use that... I used for some time, then I don't put it in my devel machine
[15:27] <Trevinho> however Cimi does it support for dynamic ctags right now?
[15:27] <Trevinho> Once I had to update my ctags file everytime
[15:28] <Cimi> Trevinho: not in realtime I'd say
[15:28] <Cimi> Trevinho: after a bit
[15:29] <Trevinho> Mh, ok... It's still good
[15:30] <Trevinho> also if in that role Eclipse would beat every IDE ever.... The problem is that I'd need other 8GB of ram to use it!
[15:30] <htorque> Trevinho: yeah, should work with a second ext4 partition or from an external drive
[15:30] <Trevinho> htorque: also another kind of partition?
[15:31] <htorque> ext4, ntfs, vfat on a flash drive worked for me
[15:31] <Trevinho> ok
[15:31] <Trevinho> I'll try
[15:31] <htorque> just pick two bigger files and it should fail like in the screenshot
[15:37] <Trevinho> htorque: ok, found
[15:38] <htorque> :)
[15:38] <Trevinho> it also happens when computing the size
[15:51] <nigelb> njpatel: Hey
[15:51] <njpatel> nigelb, hey dude
[15:51] <nigelb> All set for the session?
[15:51] <nigelb> oh wait, you cancelled...
[15:51] <njpatel> nigelb, it's been moved to friday :)
[15:52] <nigelb> njpatel: Yeah, just got told. Updating :)
[17:45] <smoser> is this a known bug ?
[17:45] <smoser> i hit alt-f2, the dialog comes up, but i can't launch anything from it.
[17:46] <smoser> usually it works the first time after login, and then it seems like it works sometimes, but most of the time not.
[17:46] <smoser> (unity-2d)
[18:24] <jderose> what's the correct, modern way to save/restore window positions and sizes?
[20:09] <sbte> jcastro, any chance this bug will get fixed before 11.10? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/732997
[20:10] <sbte> Because otherwise I need to submit a critical patch for emesene
[20:11] <jcastro> smspillaz is the one to poke
[20:13] <sbte> jcastro, ok thanks, i guess you just did that :P
[20:23] <jcastro> DBO: unless that bug is your fault? or is it compiz?
[20:23] <DBO> file against unity
[20:23] <DBO> assign to smspillaz
[20:40] <czajkowski> Aloha
[20:40] <jcastro> DBO: hey ^^^^
[20:40] <jcastro> does alt-tab window get stuck sometimes?
[20:40] <DBO> no in my experience but if it does let me know
[20:40] <czajkowski> what happens is the menu comes across the screen where I alt tab through applications
[20:40] <czajkowski> and then won't go away
[20:40] <czajkowski> so I alt tab to a terminal
[20:40] <czajkowski> I cant get to it
[20:40] <czajkowski> the menu bar will not go away
[20:41] <DBO> so its the menu bar getting stuck
[20:41] <DBO> not alt-tab
[20:41] <czajkowski> yes
[20:42] <czajkowski> it won't vanish
[20:43] <DBO> czajkowski, I'll look at it when I can
[20:43] <DBO> my system is kinda fucked up right now :)
[20:43] <czajkowski> DBO: I can file a bug
[20:43] <czajkowski> just not sure what to file it against
[20:43] <DBO> unity
[21:08] <htorque> hey all! i just tested the latest fix for alt-tab and dash corners. looks miles better than before, but can it still be improved? http://img.xrmb2.net/images/675518.png
[21:17] <Andy80> Kaleo: are you still here?
[21:25] <om26er> htorque, i'll be testing it soonish if it build fine in my ppa and screenshot wont open
[21:25] <om26er> imagebin plz ;)
[21:26] <htorque> om26er:  http://imagebin.org/index.php?mode=image&id=171316
[21:27] <htorque> i hope i picked the right "imagebin" - there are lots of them ;-)
[21:27] <om26er> DBO, that would be one way to make it "stuck" bug 832033
[21:28] <DBO> thats not really stuck but I see the problem
[21:28] <DBO> also seriously, who alt-tab's with Onboard?
[21:28]  * om26er is clueless
[21:28] <DBO> fundamentally that is pretty broken
[21:28] <om26er> DBO, maybe this case might fix the other as well
[21:29] <DBO> not really related :)
[21:29] <om26er> htorque, thats zoomed i'll see how it looks in real size
[21:31] <om26er> https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/832033/comments/3 might be another way to reproduce the problem
[21:31] <om26er> or https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/832033/comments/6
[21:36] <htorque> heh, yeah that works - can you make it unstuck? :)
[22:19] <jono> DBO, yo
[22:20] <jono> remember the bug we found when moving your mouse slowly to the left edge of the screen and the launcher not showing?
[22:50] <Trevinho> htorque: around?
[22:50] <htorque> ya
[22:50] <Trevinho> Well, I've looked at that nautilus issue
[22:50] <Trevinho> but I can't reproduce it anymore using my own compiled version
[22:51] <Trevinho> If i push it to a branch could you test it?
[22:51] <htorque> sure
[22:51] <Trevinho> fine, so wait few minutes and I'll put it online
[23:01] <Trevinho> htorque: sorry, but I ask you to wait other few minutes... Unfortunately I've lost the copy of nautilus i was working on... Damn! I always put things on /tmp... :(
[23:01] <htorque> oh no :(
[23:03] <Trevinho> Not that bad since I just changed few details, but I've to remember what... :P
[23:51] <Trevinho> htorque: still here? :)
[23:52] <htorque> yes
[23:52] <Trevinho> ok
[23:52] <Trevinho> htorque:  try this version: lp:~3v1n0/+junk/nautilus-unity-debug
[23:52] <Trevinho> (it's sitll uploading :P)
[23:53] <Trevinho> however, just compile it, killall nautilus before running it
[23:53] <Trevinho> and run nautilus launching it from a terminal
[23:53] <Trevinho> it should print some informations on the terminal while copying the files.
[23:53] <Trevinho> So, please send me the output you get when the error occurs
[23:53] <htorque> sure :)
[23:54] <Trevinho> Thanks
[23:54] <htorque> does that branch contain packaging info so that i just can run debuild?
[23:54] <Trevinho> yes
[23:54] <htorque> cool
[23:54] <Trevinho> you can use debuild as well
[23:54] <thumper> boom, boom, boom... another one bites the dust
[23:54] <thumper> memory leak that is...
[23:56] <htorque> thumper: i guess not the one in indicator-applications or the way worse (probably) in indicator-appmenu? ;-)
[23:56] <thumper> htorque: no, unity and nux
[23:57] <htorque> too bad, anyways: keep putting 'em down! :-)