[00:14] anyone else read through the newsletter? [00:24] I skimmed it [00:25] every looked okay [00:25] how do you collect all of that information though? [00:26] mhall119: people dump links into a google doc [00:34] mhall119, what Pen said - and myself and others went through about 150 issues and pulled links to every site we used and I created an RSS feed for them them I skim through daily [00:42] akgraner: sounds like you need a better RSS reader ;) [00:42] :-) [00:43] also, it sounds like we should export the loco.u.c blog aggregation as RSS [00:43] I am still not comfortable with everything beinf automated - I like to look at the information [00:43] and sometimes the first paragraph doesn't contain the meat of the story/post [00:45] ReadFeeder wouldn't automate it, but you could make a queue for each section in UWN, and just drop stuff into those queues as you find them during the month [00:45] it also displays the original page, not the summary [00:46] (the summary is in a tooltip over the entry title though, for skimming) [00:48] cool - yeah I really need to dump all the feeds into Readfeeder it's on my list :-) [00:49] I'm up to 1876 feeds being updated by RF [00:49] akgraner: do you have an OPML file of the feeds? [00:49] um prob not b/c I don't even know what OPML means ;-) [00:50] or I might and just not know it [00:50] which is entirely possible [01:00] if it's in Google Reader you can get an OPML, it's basically just an XML file of the feed url and title [01:00] ok then yep I have that :-) [01:01] brb need to finish publishing UWN :-) Finally woot woot [02:40] akgraner: is there an RSS feed for UWN that I can subscribe to? [02:40] there is supposed to be - it would be the fridge feed.... [02:41] I don't think - or can't remember if we set up another one yet or not - also people subscribe to the forums post as well [02:41] * akgraner adds that to my list of things to verify or get fixed :-) [02:47] I was just wondering, it's not a big deal if there isn't [02:48] So, I've decided to make the first hipster distro with Syn [02:48] I think it'll be an ironic statement on the state of GNU/Linux (which I do understand makes me a hipster) [02:49] I'm going to make the default terminal font Helvetica [02:49] (but monospaced) - and preloaded indie music that you've never heard of [02:50] but then people will have heard of it [02:50] humm good point [02:50] OMG, you'd be able to destroy hipsterism! [02:50] do it! [02:50] DO IT! [02:50] :) [02:50] I think I'll do that - I wonder if I can use the linux framebuffer to set the console's background to something [02:51] RMS with a scarf and glasses [02:51] how would you know if he had on a scarf? [02:52] or, if the scarf was wrapped around the beard, how would you know it was RMS? [02:52] true [02:52] perhaps RMS posing with a fixie [02:52] fixie? [02:52] mhall119: fixed speed bike [02:53] oh man, I'm so not hipster [02:53] truth [02:53] mhall119: want to see something super hipster? [02:54] akgraner: so I tried my hand at a molasses based BBQ sauce tonight, turned out alright, but there's something missing [02:54] paultag: sure [02:54] mhall119: this is what the next release of Fluxbox is going to look like (minus the conky script, that's mine ;) ) - http://i.imgur.com/nP9Sf.png [02:55] classy, aye? [02:55] so I'm randomly announcing it and then I'm off to bed: I am going before the EMEA board tomorrow (scheduling conflict for america meeting) :) [02:55] ew [02:55] mhall119: oh pfft - it's so clutch [02:55] Cheri703: you weren't a member already? [02:55] Cheri703: :D [02:55] nope mhall119 [02:55] Cheri703: where's your wiki application page? [02:55] hope to be after tomorrow :) [02:55] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cheri703 [02:57] I'm a bit anxious as I've not been doing quite as much in the past few months, but life has been insane :/ things should actually start calming down, even though I'm starting a full time job next week (hence the scheduling conflict) [02:58] IME, the membership boards know that people's contribution levels rise and fall, and that sometimes life takes precedence [02:58] thanks mhall119 :) [02:58] kk, cool :) [02:59] Cheri703, you rock - don't be nervous... [02:59] paultag: Fluxbox can look beautiful, why does is still look like Win95? [02:59] mhall119: it's a secret, but we have compositing support for 1.3.1+2 [02:59] thanks akgraner [02:59] mhall119: so it should handle compiz esque fancyness, but our impl is stupid small footprint [02:59] paultag: but the widgets look dated [02:59] mhall119: we also have new lua support [02:59] mhall119: that's conky not fluxbox [03:00] ok, well, just wanted to mention it, and now I'm off to bed! early morning tomorrow [03:00] mhall119: we also have cool xdg autostarting shaz going, so it might become a workable DE soonish [03:00] paultag: I mean the window frame, scrollbars, toolbar, etc [03:00] mhall119: oh, I actually prefer it like that :( [03:00] paultag: cool, have you proposed the xdg autostart upstream yet? [03:01] mhall119: since we have compositing support, we could get it slick looking soonish [03:01] mhall119: sorta kinda. I have my delta up and in the testing branch [03:01] paultag: I saw fluxbox slick looking 5 years ago [03:01] mhall119: I need to add a bit more and clean it up [03:01] mhall119: yeah Mint's doing an OK job with it [03:01] I almost used Fluxbox as the basis for Qimo [03:02] mhall119: http://linuxcritic.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/lm8fbce_mintconfig.png <- that's Fluxbox [03:02] see. why doesn't it look like that by default? [03:03] mhall119: because the idiots who can do good work like that don't feel like contributing upstream [03:03] and it pisses me off [03:03] If I could get in touch with whoever, I'd gladly merge it in personally [03:03] it's open source right? Steal their configs [03:03] mhall119: Yeah, but some of it is either not documented under a license or CC-NC-SA 3 [03:03] with means it's nonfree by DFSG standards [03:04] mhall119: I'm going to head off, but perhaps I'll start hunting harder to make fluxbox prettier OTB [03:04] One love :) [03:04] g'night [03:05] * mhall119 should wrap up school work and head to bed too [03:05] Hey paultag [03:06] so I'm writing an essay about open source software, where should I go with this? [03:06] akgraner: ^^ and NTEU insights for me? [03:06] mhall119: go to me ;-). what are writing about? [03:07] doctormo: I haven't decided yet, something about FLOSS that I personally relate to or care about [03:07] but in no more than 5 pages [03:07] mhall119, wow - that's a huge topic- gotta narrow it down some more [03:07] yeah, that's what I'm asking for suggestions for [03:08] ok so give me 4 things you can personally relate too [03:08] it's not supposed to be an advocacy piece, more descriptive from a personal point of view [03:08] mhall119: Yeah, I think I've maybe savaged about 60% of the FOSS topic over 4 years of blogs and comments. [03:08] relate/care about [03:08] learning, sharing, fixing and creating [03:09] but a lot of that is because I'm a developer [03:09] I'm wondering how to relate this to technical non-developers or non-technical users [03:09] mhall119: Owning, fixing, learning, sharing. FOSS rules. [03:09] Then discuss where the pain points are for new users and how as a developer you work to overcome the gaps/barriers to entry without lowering the standards of quality [03:10] http://paste.ubuntu.com/683063/ are my notes so far [03:10] or making new users feel patronized etc [03:10] * mhall119 loves tomboy-pastebinit [03:11] need to fix bullets and indenting though :( [03:13] The only parts missing from my mental list are: Efficiencies, NIH resistance, Pre-Pay Development models, support freedom (choosing who to help you) etc. [03:13] NIH resistance? [03:13] have you seen the number of python web frameworks? [03:13] or java ones? [03:14] mhall119, that's some pretty cool brainstorming there [03:14] akgraner: thanks [03:14] I tell you, Tomboy should be a requirement for college work [03:14] don't know what I'd do without it [03:14] Let me think about it - I've been up since 5am and have another early day tomorrow - can I give you some sane feedback tomorrow? [03:14] sure, my brainstorming is due tomorrow night [03:15] ok cool... [03:15] g'night [03:15] and thanks both of you [03:34] mhall119: Well resistance in a certain way, probably not in some others. [03:34] np, night night [06:33] how to download a video from youtube from ubuntu terminal? [06:34] cheenu: try asking in #ubuntu or your loco team channel [06:35] this isn't really the right place for that question [06:35] good morning all [06:36] ok thanks but can u tell me how to go for #ubuntu ?? [06:37] i got it fine thanks [07:01] good morning [07:19] Morning! [07:21] hi nigelb [07:23] morning dholbach, morning nigelb [07:23] hola dpm [07:23] ahoy dpm :) [07:24] a rocking start to UADW yesterday, thanks a lot nigelb and akgraner for your help! [07:24] nice [07:25] :) [07:26] Morning all [07:27] dpm: The wiki already has logs. akgraner and I did the logs as sson as we could :) [07:28] dpm: and IRC nicknames are all sorted out now :) [07:28] nigelb, yeah I saw the logs, good work! [08:07] Morning folks === dholbach_ is now known as dholbach [10:07] aloha [10:14] kim0: you about for a quick pm please ? [10:22] czajkowski: sure [10:23] thanks [10:56] hey nigelb, did you have a chance to look at the e-mail I sent you re: tutorials for d.u.c? [10:57] dpm: I did, I'm going to convert AlanBell's class from yesterday into a tutorial (with credit to him of course) [10:57] nigelb, excellent, let me set up an account for you at d.u.c [10:58] \o/ [10:59] cool :) [11:00] dpm: Excellent, got it. [11:01] nigelb, cool, let me pm with some details [11:45] morning all [11:47] duanedesign: howdy [11:49] czajkowski: doind well i hope? [11:52] yeah not to bad [11:52] working on testing a system for a mate [11:52] ad then doing a training manual === salgado_ is now known as salgado [15:33] akgraner: [15:33] I seem to have forgotten how to add things to the fridge calendar [15:34] jcastro: Does this help? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fridge/Calendar [15:34] akgraner is away today [15:34] aha [15:34] got it [15:42] jcastro, I'm on for 5 mins before heading out again [15:42] did my email make sense to you? [15:42] I'm all set! [15:42] yeah [15:42] it got filtered so I am lucky I ran into it [15:43] I am resetting things now [15:43] ok :-) [15:43] and will make an annoucenment this afternoon [15:43] jeez do you send my email to /dev/null to like Pete does [15:43] thanks for the tip, I was totally unaware of how screwed I would have been [15:43] no, I have an askubuntu filter and it's in your sig [15:43] so it got stuck there [15:43] but it's ok, I check it daily [15:43] hehe :-) [15:43] it's my AU + Amber folder now [15:43] no worries...everyone needs an Amber folder [15:44] ok I just wanted to check with you before I headed out again [15:44] nigelb, please email if I need to finish logs again today - I'll do it when I return === dpm_ is now known as dpm__ === dpm is now known as dpm_ === dpm__ is now known as dpm === salgado is now known as salgado-lunch === salgado-lunch is now known as salgado [19:43] hey jono [19:48] BARK BARK BARK! JORGE IS HERE! BARK BARK! [19:49] Voice recognition? [19:49] lok [19:49] lol [19:50] nigelb: It reminded me of this: http://spamusement.com/index.php/comics/view/41 [19:52] popey: meow meow, hi popey meow meow [19:52] I finally got around to posting to planet.mozilla.org today! [19:52] \o/ [19:56] hey jcastro [19:56] jono: why did you let me buy this mercyful fate [19:56] which one? [19:56] and when did I let you buy it? :-) [19:56] I bought the "best of" [19:56] I think you were in the channel [19:57] and I was like "ok, going to go get it" [19:57] way to look out [19:58] news to me [19:58] lol [19:58] there's like, specs of genius [19:58] don't listen to Mercyful Fate, listen to King Diamond [19:58] and then he gets all .. well, you know [19:58] get Them, Conspiracy and Abigail [19:59] wow my blog has got some discussion going [19:59] :-) [19:59] I aksed ted to respond to chip [20:02] cool [20:04] jono: hey when you get a chance (no rush) can you search for when you mailed me telling me my start date? I promise to write it down this time. [20:04] I know I am like a week or so after you [20:04] jcastro, dude, I do this every year [20:04] didnt you write a blog entry about when you started? [20:04] :-) [20:04] I know [20:05] but I suck, I was like "this month I celebrate" [20:05] just post it for this month [20:05] not sure if the specific date is required [20:05] yeah I think this is what we did last time [20:06] * jono tries to avoid digging through his email :-) [20:06] I will post tonight or something [20:07] awesome [20:07] :-) [20:29] woo! [20:29] man lightning just struck the house across the canal from me! [20:29] gah I've the menu for flipping throuhg application on my dekstop and it won't go away [20:29] and is blocking my view!!! [20:31] jcastro: that's a bit close for comfort [20:31] aye [20:32] yeah but for a split second I thought the world was over, that was awesome! [20:32] I'm not sure many people would describe it that way. [20:35] Pici: but its jcastro! He's not most people :P [20:35] nigelb: ah, you're right. [20:36] k, sleep. For realz [20:36] G'nite [20:36] at my last job a guy got struck by lightning [20:36] czajkowski, yeah sometimes the launcher gets a bit stuck [20:36] it hit like 3 feet from him [20:36] and knocked him off his feet [20:37] jcastro: are you zeus? :P [20:37] * jono begins the burndown smackdown :-) [20:37] akgraner, can you complete your action from the burndown? [20:37] akgraner, on https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/community-o-ubuntu-one-developer-apis [20:38] jono: a bit! have had to reboot 6 times today alone due to it [20:38] czajkowski, oof, see if you can reproduce and file a bug [20:38] czajkowski, are you natty or oneiric? [20:38] bed time. laters :) [20:38] oneiric [20:39] I can reporduce it if I alt tab 5 applications the menu bar across the screen will not feck off [20:39] hello community friends [20:39] czajkowski: let's find DBO on #ayatana [20:39] he's always asking for alt-tab testers [20:40] i hav an Ubuntu One users who wants the site in French. Will Chrom not do this? [20:42] czajkowski, file a bug [20:42] against? [20:44] aha i found #ubuntu-fr [20:44] doctormo, around? [20:44] doctormo, would you mind looking into your item on https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/community-o-irc-classroom-events ? thanks! [20:45] before you get to me I just knocked two off [20:45] there's no need to investigate my items [20:45] * jcastro hand waves a little bit [20:47] jono: in your crazy schedule i really need 3o minutes to discuss Beginners Team, We are at a bit of a crossroads an would hate to see the team fade into Ubuntu folklore. I believe it has a lot to give [20:47] duanedesign, sounds good, can we chat later this week? [20:48] so in the coming weeks keep it in mind please jono [20:48] jono: awsome! [20:49] duanedesign, lets get something in the calendar, one sec [20:49] duanedesign, Fri at 2pm Pacific? [20:50] only thin i have that day is a 10 am Central [20:51] so sounds perfect [20:51] man [20:52] the list of regressions moving to gnome 3 is like a mile long. :-/ [20:52] duanedesign, awesome [20:53] jcastro, if you want to hear something odd, check out Sigh [20:53] odd Japanese death metal oddball band [20:53] is that like a band? [20:53] oh [20:53] interesting to listen to [20:54] jcastro, check out Musica In Tempora Belli by them [20:55] hmm, weird [20:56] jcastro, see what I mean? [20:56] :-) [20:56] not as awesome as Ghost, though [20:58] hmm, this middle classical thing is nice [20:59] :-) [20:59] ugh [20:59] then he ruins it by singing [20:59] hehe [21:04] I guess I'll forever be radio-pop metal [21:06] You say that like there's something wrong with radio-pop metal ;) [21:07] I try not to be too condascending to him when it's between working hours [21:30] jono - I emailed you buddy aq :-) he never got back to me - I'll try him one more time but you may have to kick him :-) [21:30] thanks akgraner, follow up and if nothing happens, postpone it [21:30] ok :-) will do [21:32] * akgraner goes on an aq hunt....or at least a spamming mission [21:50] jcastro, can you do me a favor? [21:50] follow up with kapil and get him to complete his actions on http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-oneiric/canonical-community.html [22:28] akgraner: ping [22:40] cjohnston, pong [22:42] akgraner: see pm