[00:08] kim0, around [00:08] ? [00:09] seif: yeah! was about to jump to bed though .. what's up [00:09] can i skype with you quickly [00:09] please [00:09] if it's important yeah [00:09] * kim0 plugs mic [10:43] thelinuxer, thanks for the mail [10:43] very well written [10:43] good job [10:44] seif: thanks man :) [10:44] seif: lets talk business [10:44] which business [10:44] i am busy as it is [10:44] :P [10:44] lol [10:44] Arabic developer days, how about that ? [10:45] when is it? [10:47] thelinuxer, ^ [10:48] thelinuxer, ^ [10:48] seif: sorry wireless connection just dropped what was the last thing u said ? [10:48] lol [10:48] Arabic developer days, how about that ? [10:48] when is it? [10:49] seif: well i was thinking about contacting other Arabic teams [10:49] and see how would they like to participate [10:50] is is ubuntu specific or also general open source [10:50] ? [10:50] but until now, if it's an ubuntu-eg related event then u can set the date [10:50] it can be general opensource of course [10:50] but i wanted to teach people the process of becoming a UD [10:51] it's a clear path [10:51] and helps new comers to quickly start contributing [10:51] uhm well there are several ways to become an ubuntu dev [10:51] either you come directly ot ubuntu [10:51] or come from upstream down to ubuntu [10:51] 2 different approaches [10:51] yes i know [10:51] I can only talk about the latter [10:52] but i like the idea [10:52] gr8 [10:53] will it be remote? [10:53] yes [10:53] that's the whole idea [10:54] a couple of hrs/day [10:54] on IRC room like ubuntu deve days [10:58] seif: can u give a list of the sessions you would like to present in these days ? [10:59] depends when it is [10:59] u set the date [10:59] but not before 2 weeks or something [11:00] to give me time to coordinate with other teams and announce it properly [11:01] thelinuxer, sounds good [11:01] this month however is pretty busy [11:02] I will be at OSC 2011 [11:02] OWF 2011 [11:02] a hackfest in milan [11:02] so kinda crammed [11:03] ok 1st of October ? [11:07] nope [11:08] 1st of cotober i will be most probably recovering form 30th spetember [11:09] seif: give me a date man :D [11:09] or a range and I will try to arrange it [11:10] i cant give a date until the 3th is over [13:24] ashams, dude lose the attitude [13:24] he said he is willing to give then let him give [13:25] if you want to rant or annoy ppl then please on irc and not on the mailinglist [13:25] the mailinglist represents us [13:58] seif: Hi [13:58] seif: I wasn't here, sorry for late response [13:58] I think it's enough for me [13:59] I'll be waiting for a decission to respond to [13:59] thanks for waking me up :D [14:32] seif: Karim mentioned that he was on the mailing list a day long, would you please help me to remeber this? [14:41] ashams: u mean on the IRC [14:42] thelinuxer1, Yes [14:42] it might have happened long before you were a member of the team [14:42] hehe I think so :D [14:43] thelinuxer1, May I say something that I really want to say and I want all of you to apologize me? [14:45] fine, I'll just shutup [14:46] ashams: back [14:46] what did u want to say ? [14:47] thelinuxer, ok [14:47] Isn't Karim lying [14:48] this is exactly what i don't want to discuss now [14:48] if we need to discuss this it needs to be in a meeting [14:48] may I ask why(you're totally free to ignore this msg) [14:49] cause discussing this will only cause problems, and we will only be flaming him [14:49] ashams, he is not lying [14:49] i worked with him before [14:49] seif, Hi [14:50] ashams, i was here maybe before most of the ppl on this channel [14:50] seif: ashams lets just not discuss anything now please [14:50] I didn't mean about work [14:50] ashams, look in the end what is your problem [14:50] ashams, get over it [14:50] I meant about active, I don't blame him for anything but why to lie about such a thing [14:50] he said he is willing to hand over ownership [14:50] he was very active in the past [14:51] and now ur both r ignoring me ... [14:51] seif, I'm not talking about the past [14:51] thelinuxer, :D [14:51] i agree with thelinuxer [14:51] this topic is closed [14:51] pointing fingers is stupid and not healthy to the community [14:52] so please get over it [14:53] seif: i have to say something, ur giving ashams a little bit of an attitude here [14:54] we all have to calm down and think about how to make the loco more healthy [14:55] This will never happen without facing it, not just getting over, seif ? [14:55] * ashams will just watch [14:58] ashams, sorry for the attitude [14:58] ashams, we had these problems in eglug and in ubuntu-eg before [14:58] and we need to learn to let it die [14:59] i don't want to talk about the issue [14:59] but this issue is a little bit differrent [14:59] lol [14:59] I guess this is the admin issue [14:59] :D [14:59] so i am apologizing for the attitude but lets close the topic [14:59] i want to only talk in the meeting to let it all out [14:59] seif, I wasn't offended by any of your msgs simply because you're not LYING :D [15:00] seif, May I reebl? :) pleaaaaaaaaaaaaaase [15:00] rebel* [15:00] ashams, rebeling is not cool atm [15:01] rebeling while winning is just awkward [15:01] ubuntu-eg got what it wanted [15:01] it will get the ownership [15:01] wether he lied or not [15:01] its the past [15:01] \o/ [15:01] and bringing it up is kind annoying [15:01] and please avoid sarcasm and provocation on the mailing list [15:02] the mailing list is public [15:02] and is our gateway to the egyptian community [15:02] please take it as friendly advise [15:02] seif, Thanks [15:02] i used to rebel alot and it cost me alot in the GNOME community [15:02] This can't be bad [15:02] i dont want to see this happen in ubuntu-eg [15:03] what cant be bad [15:03] bad from them to let you shout till you find no way except rebelling [15:03] seif, right? [15:04] and what did the rebellion bring me [15:04] what is the rebellion bringing you [15:04] right now u won the case [15:04] why rebel [15:05] to rebel u need to be the underdog [15:05] which in this case you are not [15:05] Enta betsannegni 3ala fekra! [15:05] betsannegni ? [15:05] sorry, I meant betsabbetni [15:06] = bet sakketni bel 7ada2a, got it? [15:06] yeah [15:06] :D [15:06] i really dont mean bad [15:06] i actually have a very high image of you [15:06] and your enthusism [15:06] i just odnt want the image to be broken [15:07] the new loco team is amazing [15:07] Thanks [15:07] out of experience rebelling hurt my work at gnome [15:07] diplomacy got my work into kde and unity [15:07] so i resort to the last [15:07] ashams, when i feel pissed i dont reply mails [15:07] and this happens often (I am an angry kid :P) [15:08] Ok, let's go to diplomacy [15:08] though I prefer facing frankly [15:09] ok [15:09] yeah [15:09] but not on public lists [15:09] in person or on irc [15:09] lol [15:09] looooool [15:10] ashams, here is some rebellion and ranting i did in the past [15:10] http://seilo.geekyogre.com/2010/06/my-take-on-zeitgeist-and-gaj-not-being-in-gnome-a-personal-rant/ [15:10] thelinuxer, i am one of the guest writers of omgubuntu.co.uk [15:10] i would like to interview the loco team [15:10] what do u think [15:11] I read that before, that's why I was astonished by you trying to get over [15:11] seif: sure, i just got really busy i lost track of this suggested to made before [15:11] i got over it [15:12] hey diplomacay is not getting zeitgeist as a backend for gtk [15:12] or to be precise [15:12] gtk.recentmanager [15:12] ashams, do u code [15:12] ? [15:12] No [15:12] :( [15:12] wanna learnm [15:12] ? [15:13] seif, sure [15:13] I'm strugging to learn [15:13] I'm a self-learner [15:13] ashams, ok [15:13] the hardest way [15:13] ashams, same here [15:13] actually no [15:13] ashams, self learning is the best way of learning [15:13] ashams, i never studied CS [15:13] i am a mathmatician [15:13] I'm atranslator [15:14] i tought myself programing at a very young age [15:14] :( [15:14] ashams, we need to get you working on coding [15:14] let me go get some food and i will ttyl [15:14] Yes please [15:14] but It's very new from here [15:15] you know, there is one jump to take, If i only can :( [15:15] seif: will try to reply to this email (the interview email) tomorrow or the day after with the answers [15:16] to the mailing list so people can revise the answers and polish it [15:19] thelinuxer, I was thinking of giving a bug triaging class [15:19] but I might not be able to do it in Arabic [15:19] ashams: y ? [15:19] :D can't understand! [15:20] y? [15:21] thelinuxer, you mean "why?" [15:21] yes [15:21] because I learned it all in english, thinking in english, replying in english [15:22] :( [15:22] and ur our translator [15:22] right ? [15:23] I appreciate my fate to be here :D [15:23] Doing it in Arabic will take a lot of time for the first time [15:23] tayeb we can talk about this later [15:24] thelinuxer, Ok, I know you're busy right now, bas kont batrakhem :p [15:24] :) [16:35] elfasalan dah 3ayez #ubuntu-trivia [16:35] :D === sarhan_ is now known as sarhan