micahgchrisccoulson: cool, I'm happy doing locally though as it allows me to test builds, but good to know in case I'm stuck on low BW00:00
chrisccoulsoni shall be using it for the daily builds ;)00:01
micahgchrisccoulson: speaking of daily builds, would you be up for adding the crons for chromium to your build crons?00:01
chrisccoulsonmicahg, maybe once i've got the firefox builds going00:02
chrisccoulsonin any case, i don't have access to the PPA's or branches anyway00:02
chrisccoulsonso i can't do that00:02
micahgchrisccoulson: ok, I was thinking alternatively of switching to build recipes since it's svn based00:02
chrisccoulsonah, ok00:03
micahgchrisccoulson: yeah, I'll fix that soon, need to send an e-mail00:03
chrisccoulsoni've been cloned now: https://launchpad.net/~chrisbot00:03
micahgbut that's not happening until next week00:03
* micahg is still in crisis mode00:03
chrisccoulsonthanks to robohash for the avatar :)00:04
micahgnow we just need to train it to fix the build failures :)00:04
chrisccoulsonok, i have a good tarball again :)00:08
chrisccoulsonnow to make sure i delete the *correct* one this time00:08
chrisccoulsonwith the correct one being the broken one00:08
chrisccoulsonnow i'm confused ;)00:08
chrisccoulsonmicahg, m_conley bought up an interesting problem at the end of last week. how do we warn users before upgrading firefox or thunderbird that some of their extensions might not work afterwards?00:13
chrisccoulsonthe upstream updater checks this before offering an upgrade00:13
chrisccoulsonand tells you if any of your extensions will stop working00:13
chrisccoulsoni want to be able to do something similar from update-manager00:14
micahgchrisccoulson: we don't unfortunately, nor do I think we can, on first run, the new version checks for compatibility and warns if something won't work00:14
chrisccoulsonwe can :)00:14
chrisccoulsonwe can check the extensions that are installed and probe for updates ourselves00:15
chrisccoulsoni'm sure i can write a tool which will do just that, which we could hook in to update-manager00:15
micahgupdates aren't always needed00:15
micahgbut I suppose you could make the calls to AMO for compatibility and display something nice00:16
chrisccoulsonright, but there's no reason i can't do exactly the same thing that firefox does before offering an upgrade00:16
chrisccoulsonyeah, that's what i was hinting at00:16
chrisccoulsoni might start writing something this week to do that00:16
micahgcool, I think that will make users happy00:17
chrisccoulsonyeah, it would be nice to have something like that00:17
micahgbut I really don't like the idea of people not upgrading due to extensions breaking...00:17
RuediiDoes anyone know what the network.http.qos entry is in Firefox?08:05
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chrisccoulsonyay! all the builders came back :)15:34
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chrisccoulsonm_conley, when you listen for new messages on nsIMsgMailSession, does OnItemAdded fire before or after filters run on the new message?20:22
chrisccoulsoneg, what happens if the spam filter marks it as spam, and it is moved to the junk folder?20:22
m_conleychrisccoulson: hm - good question.20:22
m_conleychrisccoulson: maybe ask bienvenu in #maildev?20:23
chrisccoulsonm_conley, yeah, could do20:23
chrisccoulsonah, he's not there atm :/20:24
m_conleychrisccoulson: or Standard8.  I can't say I'm too familiar with the order of events wrt filters.20:24
chrisccoulsonthe only reason i mentioned it is because someone sent me an e-mail saying that the messaging menu notifies them of messages that get moved to their junk folder, from a POP account20:25
chrisccoulsonand we're meant to ignore those20:25
chrisccoulsonbut the log he sent me suggests that we get an event before the message is marked as junk20:25
chrisccoulsonbut then he sent me another message saying the latest version seemed to fix it, but i'm not sure :/20:26
m_conleychrisccoulson: hrm20:42
m_conleychrisccoulson: I suppose we should wait to see if it *really* fixed it, which I somewhat doubt.20:43
m_conleychrisccoulson: while I have you, though, I was wondering if you knew the easiest way for me to get the debug symbols for libgio?20:43
chrisccoulsonm_conley, this should help - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProgramCrash :)20:44
m_conleychrisccoulson: excellent, thank you. :)20:44
chrisccoulsonm_conley, hmm, IIUC, it looks like filters are applied before we get notified20:51
chrisccoulsonwhich is good :)20:51
chrisccoulsondoesn't explain why it didn't work for this guy though :/20:51
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FernandoMiguelnite every123:07
spikebikeAnyone know if thunderbird on ubuntu uses the system wide SSL certs?23:15
spikebikei.e. /etc/ssh/certs23:15
micahgspikebike: yes, it does in the stable releases, I"ll be updating NSS and thunderbird soon23:15
micahgspikebike: err, it uses NSS, not ca-certificates23:16
spikebikeok, that's consistent with what I'm seeing23:16
micahgspikebike: are you concerned about the diginotar stuf?23:16
spikebikeseems like University of California is standardizing on InCommon certs23:16
spikebikeah, no23:16
micahgspikebike: we'll probably switch it to use internal NSS at some point23:17
spikebikeInCommon has a komodo signed cert but I think the trust between the two is missing23:17
spikebikeer comodo23:17
micahgspikebike: what release are you running?23:17
micahgok, so the NSS version is a little behind and we're missing new roots23:17
micahgwe'll probably update that soon23:18
micahgspikebike: does Firefox in natty have the root?23:18
spikebikethat's the one that seems to be missing23:18
spikebikeoh umm, checking23:18
spikebikeis /etc/ssl/certs/mozilla certs that mozilla trusts?23:19
spikebikeor certs that mozilla asked ubuntu to trust?23:19
spikebikefirefox likes it, mostly anyways23:20
micahghmm, that seems to have disappered in oneiric...23:20
micahgspikebike: ok, so the NSS update should fix it for thunderbird as well then23:20
spikebikeit shows a blue bar, verified by internet2, but owner is listed as (unknown)23:21
micahgwell, that's the specific site, not the cert listed on it23:21
spikebikeyeah, not sure what field it's looking at though23:22
micahgspikebike: and that patch is maintained with ca-certificates which is another package that has certs in it, it gets periodic updates of the latest certs from NSS23:22
spikebikesounds promising23:22
spikebikethunderbird was rather unhappy with a similar InCommon cert, no matter what I did in /etc/ssl/certs it made me view and approve an exception23:23
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micahgspikebike: yeah, thunderbird will ignore that path, you can import the cert in the thunderbird certificate manager23:23
micahgassuming you've verified it's authentic23:24
spikebikeyeah, of course, and that's what I did... I was hoping to support a larger group of users though23:24
spikebikeso google chrome and firefox like it, looks like thunderbird in natty doesn't23:25
micahgspikebike: the addtrust root seems to be in the latest versions23:28
micahgso, an NSS update should suffice23:28
spikebikeI wish ssl was handled like dnssec23:30
spikebikejust upload the equivalent of a DS record to your registrar23:30
micahgthere are those discussing that23:30
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