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| twb | Does ubuntu use insserv yet? | 05:35 |
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| jmarsden | twb: /sbin/insserv exists in Lucid, if that helps answer the question. | 05:37 |
| twb | Not really; I mean, upstart exists in Debian but it isn't really used | 05:37 |
| twb | I suspect insserv will actively do the wrong thing because enough of the init jobs are in upstart now | 05:38 |
| jmarsden | OK. You could apt-get pruge insserv and then reboot and find out :) | 05:38 |
| twb | jmarsden: it's provided by sysvinit | 05:39 |
| twb | Oh, apparently not. | 05:39 |
| jmarsden | Not on my machine :) | 05:39 |
| twb | I guess because insserv only triggers when a new sysvinit job is installed, rather than during boot (cf. startpar). | 05:39 |
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| Error404NotFound | I am trying to setup nginx with php-fpm but can't find the package, even tried couple of ppa. The best one was nginx/php but that has php package, not fpm one. Do i need to install php5-cgi and use custom init script? | 07:38 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #842400 in nagios3 (main) "package nagios3-common 3.2.0-4ubuntu2.2 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/842400 | 07:42 |
| Error404NotFound | found it | 07:50 |
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| Daviey | rbasak: Fancy setting up a new upstream version of python-novaclient? | 08:34 |
| rbasak | Daviey: sounds familiar :) | 08:34 |
| upp | hello, i want to creat intranet, so what's the best solution to do it? | 08:35 |
| rbasak | Daviey: any reason in particular I should be mentioning in the changelog? | 08:36 |
| Daviey | rbasak: That you or zul failed to see if it built locally before uploading it? | 08:36 |
| rbasak | :-( | 08:37 |
| Daviey | Or, that upstream project doesn't use a gated trunk - and someone checked in broken code? | 08:37 |
| Daviey | either way :) | 08:37 |
| rbasak | looks like it's broken upstream to me | 08:38 |
| Daviey | Oh yeah, about 3 commits after the one uploaded the fix is there. | 08:39 |
| Daviey | rbasak: btw, mentioned "LP: #838298" in the bug, and the issue you resolved will be closed automagically. | 08:41 |
| rbasak | Daviey: the latest snapshot they have is ~bzr110, dated 2/9 2141. Will that do? | 08:44 |
| Daviey | rbasak: looks like it was fixed in 108, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~jk0/python-novaclient/master/revision/108 | 08:45 |
| Daviey | so bzr110 looks super | 08:45 |
| Daviey | For interest, you can see the build log https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python-novaclient/2.6.4~bzr106-0ubuntu1/+build/2761697 | 08:46 |
| rbasak | yep seen it | 08:46 |
| rbasak | Is there an FTBFS bug to close? | 08:46 |
| Daviey | nah, you can open one if you want. | 08:47 |
| Daviey | i'd be tempted not to bother. :) | 08:47 |
| rbasak | I was gonna say that, seems a bit pointless :) | 08:47 |
| Daviey | rbasak: Yeah, some people do that so they can increase their "bug closed" count. | 08:48 |
| rbasak | :-/ | 08:48 |
| rbasak | This split out debian/ thing is a bit annoying. Is there an automated way to test the build locally without doing it all manually? | 08:48 |
| twb | rbasak: as in debian/ is a separate VCS repo? | 08:49 |
| Daviey | normally. :) | 08:49 |
| * Daviey looks | 08:49 | |
| rbasak | twb: yes | 08:49 |
| twb | I do that at http://darcs.debian.org/collab-maint/mg -- look at get-orig-source for the minimal workaround I have | 08:50 |
| twb | That's get-orig-source in debian/rules | 08:50 |
| rbasak | thanks | 08:51 |
| Daviey | I was ust checking if we had that :) | 08:51 |
| rbasak | that looks slightly mg-specific | 08:51 |
| twb | Yes, well | 08:51 |
| twb | I'm sure you can mangle it to your own use case | 08:51 |
| * rbasak doesn't yet understand the purpose of splitting it out like that | 08:51 | |
| twb | the tar part is portable enough | 08:51 |
| twb | rbasak: splitting them out and using quilt to merge is simpler than learning to use a tool like git-buildpackage or svn-buildpackage | 08:52 |
| twb | rbasak: and since 3.0 (quilt) format guarantees that debian/ contains the entire debianization, it's safe to do | 08:52 |
| rbasak | It doesn't feel simpler to me right now! I guess I need to learn quilt | 08:53 |
| twb | Are you coming from gbp, or what? | 08:53 |
| rbasak | I am | 08:53 |
| twb | Obviousl once you've made that learning hurdle, it looks easy :P | 08:53 |
| rbasak | I accept that git is hard to learn | 08:54 |
| twb | I can manage basic git, but I wanted to do packaging, not learn how to deal with branching and merging and shit | 08:54 |
| rbasak | but I think that it is only hard because it reflects the true structure of any DVCS | 08:54 |
| rbasak | instead of doing it in one tool we do the same thing out of band manually and with lots of messing around | 08:55 |
| twb | I was especially disappointed because gbp and friends' documentation want the upstream branch to only have the tarball releases in it | 08:55 |
| rbasak | just without realising what what we're doing is exactly all the same branching and merging and shit | 08:55 |
| twb | If it was obvious and easy to just maintain the debian version as a branch of upstream's dev repo, it would be more attractive | 08:55 |
| twb | rbasak: well, it's "out of band" in the sense that quilt does it. | 08:56 |
| rbasak | That's what I always did | 08:56 |
| rbasak | Not sure what you mean by only having tarball releases in it | 08:56 |
| twb | rbasak: the *bp docs I've read all say "get upstream's tarball, and commit it" | 08:56 |
| twb | rbasak: they don't say "git clone upstream, then make a new branch for debian" | 08:56 |
| rbasak | Ah | 08:56 |
| rbasak | AIUI, the two are identical | 08:56 |
| twb | They're very definitely not | 08:56 |
| twb | e.g. git log will not show you any of the upstream patches | 08:57 |
| rbasak | For the purposes of gbp they are identical | 08:57 |
| rbasak | I realise that it's different for git | 08:57 |
| rbasak | but gbp will work just find if upstream is a remote tracking branch | 08:57 |
| rbasak | (AFAIK) | 08:57 |
| rbasak | s/find/fine | 08:57 |
| twb | Maybe, but remember that when I was looking at this I also wasn't really familiar with git | 08:57 |
| rbasak | I presume the reason the docs are written that way is that most upstreams aren't git repos | 08:58 |
| twb | I felt like I was going against the grain of gbp/sbp and I knew a separate debian/ repo would Just Work | 08:58 |
| rbasak | with quilt, surely we're stuck using tarball releases anyway? | 08:58 |
| Daviey | rbasak: http://pb.daviey.com/XvE0/ | 08:58 |
| twb | rbasak: yes, but it doesn't try to be clever, it just works, and there's very clear separation between upstream, debian/ and debian/patches | 08:58 |
| rbasak | sure | 08:59 |
| rbasak | it's that clear separation that I'm finding a right pain | 08:59 |
| Daviey | rbasak: that is /one/ way of doing this | 08:59 |
| twb | I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just saying that this is how I did it, and why | 08:59 |
| rbasak | OK :) | 08:59 |
| Daviey | rbasak: actually, i didn't need to pull-lp-source | 08:59 |
| rbasak | Daviey: that's very different from what zul showed me! | 08:59 |
| Daviey | rbasak: it's /another/ way :) | 09:00 |
| Daviey | rbasak: ask twb says, there is a pretty standard convention of having a get-orig-source target in debian/rules... which allows you to do, "debian/rules get-orig-source" , but that hasn't been done for this package. | 09:01 |
| twb | Well, there's a convention that get-orig-source does *something*, and that debian/README.source documents *something* | 09:01 |
| twb | I would be wary of running get-orig-source of a new package without reading it first ;-) | 09:01 |
| rbasak | python-novaclient: remote site does not even have current version | 09:01 |
| rbasak | what's what about? | 09:01 |
| rbasak | debian/changelog says 2.6.4~bzr106-0ubuntu1 | 09:02 |
| twb | rbasak: that would be saying that upstream hasn't released the version corresponding to your debian/changelog yet. | 09:02 |
| rbasak | http://nova.openstack.org/tarballs/python-novaclient-2.6.4~bzr106.tar.gz exists | 09:02 |
| twb | rbasak: i.e. it's trying to download 2.6.4~bzr106.tar.gz | 09:02 |
| twb | Dunno, then, run uscan --debug or so | 09:02 |
| twb | uscan --verbose? Whatever | 09:02 |
| Daviey | might be a bug in the debian/watch file | 09:03 |
| Daviey | shrug | 09:03 |
| twb | Yea | 09:03 |
| rbasak | should the watch file refer to pypi? | 09:04 |
| twb | Fuck I know, is your debian source package visible somewhere I can dget? | 09:05 |
| rbasak | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric/+source/python-novaclient/2.6.4~bzr106-0ubuntu1/+files/python-novaclient_2.6.4~bzr106-0ubuntu1.dsc | 09:06 |
| rbasak | Upstream snapshot source is http://nova.openstack.org/tarballs/ AIUI | 09:07 |
| twb | uscan wfm there | 09:08 |
| Daviey | it worked for me aswell, but did give a false warning | 09:08 |
| rbasak | I get http://paste.ubuntu.com/683282/ - is that the same? | 09:09 |
| twb | Probably because there's two URLs there | 09:09 |
| Daviey | ttx: I see you are Marked as maintainer for this package.. Do you want that to be kept? | 09:09 |
| twb | So it can't find it on the first site, and tries the second | 09:09 |
| rbasak | Argh | 09:09 |
| rbasak | it's not piping the entire output when not connected to a terminal | 09:10 |
| twb | Yay reading :P | 09:10 |
| twb | rbasak: ew | 09:10 |
| twb | rbasak: report that as a bug | 09:10 |
| rbasak | Oh | 09:10 |
| rbasak | No, uscan just doens't do what I thought it would do | 09:11 |
| rbasak | Which part of name uscan suggests that it should have side effects? | 09:11 |
| rbasak | (I assumed that running uscan multiple times would have the same result) | 09:13 |
| rbasak | Even the manpage synopsis suggests that | 09:13 |
| koolhead11 | hi all | 09:13 |
| Daviey | rbasak: Really, the debian/control should also have - http://pb.daviey.com/qQ2c/ - so drive by developers know where they should propose fixes to the packaging | 09:14 |
| rbasak | Daviey: ah yes, I was asking zul the other day how I was supposed to know where to get the bzr branch from | 09:15 |
| Daviey | gah | 09:16 |
| Daviey | http://pb.daviey.com/vJ3f/, rather | 09:16 |
| rbasak | OK it builds this time | 09:24 |
| Daviey | \o/ | 09:25 |
| Daviey | rbasak: do you want to post a debdiff somewhere? | 09:26 |
| rbasak | I'll push to my bzr branch if that's OK, that's what I did last time with zul | 09:26 |
| ttx | Daviey: no | 09:26 |
| Daviey | twb: fancy tackling a bug? :) | 09:27 |
| Daviey | rbasak: that is fine. | 09:27 |
| twb | I'm going home in a minute, so you have, like, twenty seconds to sell me on it | 09:27 |
| Daviey | ttx: python-novaclient isn't gated, it's had test suite failed commits pushed to it. This is why gated trunk is good. :) | 09:28 |
| Daviey | is it a 'core' project? | 09:28 |
| Daviey | twb: ah! Maybe next time.. :) | 09:28 |
| twb | Whatever dude | 09:28 |
| rbasak | Daviey: should I keep pypi in debian/watch? | 09:29 |
| rbasak | Daviey: it seems out of date? | 09:30 |
| koolhead11 | My install gets ceased if DHCP fails to assign IP and i have to retry after pressing/selecting the appeared option during cobbler provisioning for Oneiric. Am i the only one getting this issue ? | 09:30 |
| Daviey | rbasak: it's not hurting | 09:30 |
| koolhead11 | *selecting the DHCP assign option. | 09:31 |
| Daviey | rbasak: it probably will be updated at some point, so it does work | 09:31 |
| Daviey | koolhead11: funny you say that! | 09:31 |
| Daviey | koolhead11: what hardware is this? | 09:31 |
| ttx | Daviey: it's not core -- but in some way it should be | 09:33 |
| koolhead11 | Daviey, lemme pastebin it. | 09:33 |
| rbasak | Daviey: pushed to https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~racb/%2Bjunk/python-nova-client/ | 09:33 |
| koolhead11 | Daviey, am wrongly explaining i think :D | 09:33 |
| koolhead11 | its like if DHCP fails via provisioning and then i again ask him for assigning the IP once it assigns the IP whole process ceases | 09:34 |
| koolhead11 | Daviey, http://paste.ubuntu.com/683311/ The card | 09:37 |
| Daviey | koolhead11: process ceases?! | 09:37 |
| Daviey | or it works on attempt #2? | 09:37 |
| rnz | hi all | 09:38 |
| koolhead11 | Daviey, it gets the ip and then ceases :D | 09:38 |
| Daviey | koolhead11: I've come across a class of hardware that takes too long to get an IP addresses and the on board pxe fails.. but you have got into the installer ok. | 09:39 |
| rnz | anybody know how to disable putting daemon scripts to autostart on install step (configure apt or dpkg) | 09:39 |
| rnz | & | 09:39 |
| Daviey | koolhead11: This certainly sounds like it could be a bug.. | 09:39 |
| rnz | ? | 09:39 |
| koolhead11 | Daviey, the PXE has not failed in my case but took hell lot of time. | 09:39 |
| Daviey | koolhead11: Could you raise one against debian-installer, and try and add as much info/logs from the installer as possible? | 09:39 |
| rnz | anybody know how to disable putting daemon scripts to autostart on install step (configure apt or dpkg)? | 09:40 |
| koolhead11 | Daviey, i can do that. log will not be possible because the system ceases in middle and i have to reboot the system. | 09:40 |
| Daviey | koolhead11: local or remote? | 09:42 |
| GeorgeJ | ello folks, I've just installed virtualmin and I want to have multiple versions of php installed. Is it possible to have multiple versions installed? If so, could you point me in the right direction? | 09:43 |
| koolhead11 | Daviey, the local system | 09:43 |
| Daviey | koolhead11: Someone from the foundations team might be better at helping to debug this.. Open a bug report with waht you can :0 | 09:44 |
| koolhead11 | Daviey, ok. | 09:45 |
| koolhead11 | Daviey, and am really stuck with the custom partition using preseed | 09:48 |
| koolhead11 | :( | 09:48 |
| Daviey | Didn't this come up yesterday? | 09:48 |
| Daviey | hmm | 09:49 |
| Daviey | what do you mean by custom? | 09:49 |
| koolhead11 | nopes | 09:53 |
| eagles0513875 | hey guys is there a ppa with an updated version of make | 09:54 |
| eagles0513875 | for lucid | 09:54 |
| koolhead11 | http://paste.ubuntu.com/683346/ | 09:54 |
| koolhead11 | Daviey, i put paste of what came as output and what i assigned in preseed | 09:55 |
| koolhead11 | i just need a root a swap and rest a free extended partition :D | 09:56 |
| koolhead11 | just-a-visitor, hey | 09:57 |
| just-a-visitor | Hello koolhead11 | 10:05 |
| koolhead11 | just-a-visitor, still struggling there :( | 10:05 |
| just-a-visitor | Well, I have searched for that info on Google. :| | 10:09 |
| koolhead11 | just-a-visitor, :D | 10:10 |
| just-a-visitor | Read somewhere, that if you put everything on one line it might work, but I am still looking for the article. | 10:10 |
| koolhead11 | k | 10:11 |
| koolhead11 | am leaving that section and manually run it unless i figure the issue. i have allready wasted 2 days :( | 10:18 |
| rnz | anybody know how to disable putting daemon scripts to autostart on install step (configure apt or dpkg)? | 10:21 |
| _ruben | rnz: you'd probably have to edit the package (get source package, apply change, re-package) | 10:22 |
| GeorgeJ | How would one install php 5.2.8 on ubuntu server 11.04? | 10:23 |
| rnz | _ruben - I think this bad idea | 10:24 |
| rnz | How about if i need disable for all installing daemons? | 10:24 |
| just-a-visitor | koolhead11 I am sorry, that I cannot help you more. You know, just a visitor. | 10:24 |
| _ruben | rnz: then i'd say you're an unlucky person ... or just be less lazy and disable said daemons after installing 'em | 10:25 |
| koolhead11 | just-a-visitor, dont be only that. :D | 10:25 |
| just-a-visitor | Well, I'm trying... ;-) | 10:26 |
| rnz | _ruben - i think you don't understand - apt-get install app - app add to starup and start - but server don't need to auto start them. and nothing to do with laziness | 10:30 |
| rnz | and server not need to start app now | 10:31 |
| _ruben | rnz: that's part of the app's post-install script, if you don't want that behaviour: patch it out .. if you don't want to patch it out: stop and disable after installing | 10:33 |
| _ruben | neither are 100% ideal .. tho afaik, those are your only options | 10:33 |
| rnz | _ruben: OS should not be doing what it does not ask | 10:33 |
| _ruben | then go use an OS that does what you want? | 10:34 |
| _ruben | auto starting is rather common thing for a daemon .. why else would one be installing it | 10:34 |
| _ruben | but sure, there's also apps that pose a question whether or not to do so .. those are kinda rare tho | 10:35 |
| koolhead11 | rnz, so you don`t want few apps to start during bootup right? | 10:35 |
| rnz | koolhead11: no.. I think apt or dpgk have setting to disable add app after install to autostart | 10:38 |
| rnz | and this behavior don't hardcoded in packages | 10:38 |
| koolhead11 | rnz, apt-get install rcconf | 10:38 |
| koolhead11 | :D | 10:38 |
| rnz | sorry for my bad english... | 10:39 |
| rnz | behavior in ubuntu: apt-get install daemon, if post-install phase daemon add to autostart and start immediately | 10:42 |
| rnz | heed behavior in ubuntu: apt-get install daemon, if post-install phase daemon don't add to autostart and don't start | 10:42 |
| rnz | if post-install/IN post-install | 10:43 |
| _ruben | rnz: i expect most users to prefer the current behaviour tho | 10:49 |
| _ruben | (me included) | 10:49 |
| rnz | I'm happy for them and for you, but I'm not interested. I am interested in changing behavior when installed in the right me. And asked a question about this. | 10:54 |
| _ruben | like i said, if you want to change current behaviour, roll your own patched versions of those packages .. a change in dkpg/apt to override this at install time is not something i'd see implemented soon .. then again, i'm far from authoritative on that matter :) | 10:56 |
| rnz | _ruben: IMHO this (patched version of package) is not good way... This functionality should be in the package manager, but not rigidly fixed in the package... | 11:04 |
| _ruben | rnz: i suggest you file a bug in the bugtracker | 11:06 |
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| GeorgeJ | How would one install php 5.2.8 on ubuntu server 11.04? Should I just compile from source? | 11:13 |
| EricJ | I take it its not in any official repo, is it? | 11:20 |
| sky1 | kennt sich jemand von euch a weng mit mason aus ? | 11:33 |
| _ruben | try again in english | 11:33 |
| sky1 | someone who has some experience with mason? | 11:34 |
| zul | morning | 11:52 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #842585 in tftp-hpa (main) "Please merge tftp-hpa 5.1-2 from debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/842585 | 12:02 |
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| fatbrain_ | Hi, is there a good/easy way upgrading to samba 3.6.0? | 12:40 |
| zul | fatbrain_: not if you compile from source | 12:43 |
| fatbrain_ | zul: ok, thanks. | 12:43 |
| GeorgeJ | libapache2-mod-fastcgi or libapache2-mod-fcgid? | 12:46 |
| jdstrand | Daviey: hey, what are you opinions on syncing rails from Debian (fixes 3 CVEs) | 13:11 |
| jdstrand | Daviey: it is a new upstream version: 2.3.11-0.1 -> 2.3.14.1 | 13:12 |
| jdstrand | Daviey: (and in universe) | 13:12 |
| Daviey | jdstrand: I'd rather stay as close to Debian as we can with Rails. | 13:13 |
| jdstrand | Daviey: so, that's a 'yes'? | 13:13 |
| Daviey | It's probably had minimal testing in Oneiric so far anyway.. | 13:13 |
| Daviey | jdstrand: make it so! | 13:14 |
| Daviey | (yes) | 13:14 |
| jdstrand | Daviey: thanks. I'll mention it in ubuntu-release | 13:14 |
| Daviey | ta | 13:15 |
| jamespage | lynxman: around? | 13:50 |
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| Daviey | RoAkSoAx: Hey, good day off? | 14:10 |
| jamespage | adam_g: hey - around? wanted to discuss openstack testing approachs for single and multinode deployments | 14:16 |
| adam_g | jamespage: i am here, but can we defer till tomorrow? im at a minisprint in texas today | 14:17 |
| jamespage | adam_g: hey no problem whatsoever - will have to wait until thursday tho as out tommorrow PM | 14:17 |
| adam_g | jamespage: ok, or if you wanna take it to email that works too | 14:18 |
| koolhead11 | jamespage, page | 14:24 |
| jamespage | hey koolhead11 | 14:24 |
| jamespage | :-) | 14:24 |
| koolhead11 | wassup | 14:27 |
| koolhead11 | Daviey, am adding more info i wrote the log and adding in the same bug report | 14:27 |
| Daviey | koolhead11: hmm, what is the bug number? | 14:29 |
| koolhead11 | Daviey, hold on | 14:30 |
| koolhead11 | :D | 14:30 |
| koolhead11 | Daviey, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debian-installer/+bug/842509 | 14:31 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 842509 in debian-installer "debian-installer fails to proceed/ceases if preseed fails to assign IP automatically." [Undecided,New] | 14:31 |
| koolhead11 | TeTeT hello | 14:31 |
| Daviey | koolhead11: What is your cobbler server ubuntu version? | 14:32 |
| Daviey | koolhead11: do you get this if you install from cd? | 14:33 |
| TeTeT | hi koolhead11 | 14:33 |
| zul | jdstrand: ping socat...can you guys do a review of it please its kind of blocking the MIR for nova | 14:34 |
| Daviey | zul: and python-stompy | 14:35 |
| zul | Daviey: true but that doesnt need the security team | 14:36 |
| koolhead11 | Daviey, My cobbler server : -- | 14:36 |
| koolhead11 | DISTRIB_RELEASE=11.04 | 14:36 |
| koolhead11 | Cobbler Version=2.1.0-0ubuntu7 | 14:36 |
| koolhead11 | TeTeT, how have you been? long time. :D | 14:37 |
| Daviey | koolhead11: really need a log from the failed client | 14:37 |
| RoAkSoAx | Daviey: isn't there limitations when preseeding network values on PXE booting? | 14:38 |
| zul | Daviey: with regards to python-novaclient ftbfs whatever was failing in bzr109 is fixed in bzr110 | 14:39 |
| jamespage | zul: running LXC containers with openstack - what difference does instance type make? think I'm missing something | 14:40 |
| zul | jamespage: uh? it shouldnt | 14:40 |
| * jamespage thinks this is his lack of understanding of LXC | 14:40 | |
| jdstrand | zul: ack | 14:41 |
| zul | jdstrand: thanks | 14:41 |
| Daviey | RoAkSoAx: i don't think so? | 14:41 |
| TeTeT | koolhead11: doing fine, how about yourself? | 14:43 |
| jamespage | zul: right - so instance type is ignored | 14:44 |
| zul | jamespage: right | 14:44 |
| jamespage | zul: though I was missing something obvious but evidently not | 14:44 |
| RoAkSoAx | Daviey: I thought I read something similar somewhere though I'm not so sure anymore | 14:47 |
| Daviey | hmm | 14:47 |
| Daviey | maybe | 14:47 |
| RoAkSoAx | it could have been one of my nightmares whiloe trying to figure something out | 14:47 |
| RoAkSoAx | lol | 14:47 |
| RoAkSoAx | smoser: howdy!! what was the bug # that caused cloud-init to fail on real hw? | 14:49 |
| lynxman | jamespage: was on a day off, what can I do for you sir? :) | 14:53 |
| jamespage | lynxman: if you are on a day off it can definately wait | 14:54 |
| jamespage | :-) | 14:54 |
| lynxman | jamespage: you sure? :) | 14:55 |
| jamespage | lynxman: yep - its definately non-urgent | 14:55 |
| lynxman | jamespage: alrighty, I'll ping you tomorrow morning then | 14:55 |
| zul | adam_g: ping...knowing swift release schedule would be good | 15:12 |
| adam_g | zul: good call. ill be sure to find out | 15:13 |
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| koolhead11 | RoAkSoAx, hey | 15:22 |
| Daviey | RoAkSoAx: chairing? | 15:38 |
| RoAkSoAx | Daviey: am I? | 15:39 |
| Daviey | RoAkSoAx: seems you ar enext in the FIFO. | 15:39 |
| RoAkSoAx | Daviey: ah! you just updated the wikipage | 15:40 |
| zul | how convient ;) | 15:40 |
| Daviey | zul: Was that you offering to volunter? | 15:41 |
| zul | no just commenting | 15:41 |
| SpamapS | Its nice that it takes 2 months to rotate around these days. :) | 15:41 |
| Daviey | RoAkSoAx: BTW - myself and rbasak will be in a call which clashes with the meeting.. So i might be able to 'check in' but not be a crticial part of the meeting. | 15:42 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #842845 in nova (universe) "problems starting multiple lxc instances concurrently" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/842845 | 15:42 |
| RoAkSoAx | Daviey: no worries | 15:43 |
| Daviey | RoAkSoAx: The blueprints need to be updated to reflect the current status. | 15:43 |
| * zul shakes his fist at jamespage | 15:44 | |
| jamespage | zul: :-) one more to come as well | 15:44 |
| RoAkSoAx | Daviey: ok i'll mention that | 15:44 |
| jamespage | zul: I now have a borked nova install - is they any way I can clear out all my broken lxc instances? without re-installing? | 15:44 |
| zul | euca-terminate? | 15:45 |
| jamespage | nope - nova delete not working either | 15:45 |
| jamespage | falls over with bug 842856 | 15:46 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 842856 in nova "problems terminating lxc instances" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/842856 | 15:46 |
| zul | son...of... | 15:46 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #842856 in nova (universe) "problems terminating lxc instances" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/842856 | 15:46 |
| jamespage | hello.... | 15:46 |
| zul | looks like i have some stuff to do | 15:47 |
| Daviey | jamespage: So wait, it's not starting OR stopping them properly? | 15:48 |
| jamespage | well if I spin them up individually they are OK | 15:48 |
| jamespage | Daviey: I was trying out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/Oneiric/OpenStackTestPlan with nova-compute-lxc rather than kvm | 15:50 |
| jamespage | I'm going to blast the system and see if I get the same issues again | 15:50 |
| jamespage | Daviey: did you see my ping re lack of daily iso images for server? | 15:51 |
| Daviey | jamespage: i did not! | 15:55 |
| Daviey | jamespage: thanks for raising it | 15:55 |
| jamespage | np - its was the cause of my network install woes - netbooting off one kernel version and then network installing with stuff for another | 15:56 |
| Daviey | jamespage: Ah, that has hit me a few times :/ | 15:57 |
| Daviey | I wonder if that was what koolhead11 saw. | 15:57 |
| jamespage | I switched to the mini.iso and it fixed my problem | 15:57 |
| Daviey | (didn't sound like it, tho) | 15:57 |
| jamespage | maybe - my installs failed to find any disks! | 15:57 |
| zul | jamespage: do you get the same problem when creating more than one kvm instance | 15:59 |
| jamespage | zul: I would need to check | 15:59 |
| jamespage | I did not actually try that TBH | 15:59 |
| zul | jamespage: k thanks | 15:59 |
| jamespage | but I will | 15:59 |
| EriksLV | hi | 15:59 |
| jamespage | zul: I did get some of the instances I requested - just not all of them! | 15:59 |
| EriksLV | how can I disable apt-get autoremove? | 16:00 |
| zul | jamespage: par for the course for cloud ;) | 16:00 |
| EriksLV | or clear autoremove list | 16:00 |
| jamespage | :-) | 16:00 |
| Daviey | EriksLV: It sounds like you have some depends that were instaled because of something else. | 16:01 |
| Daviey | you removed the something else | 16:01 |
| EriksLV | yea, I know | 16:01 |
| EriksLV | :) | 16:01 |
| EriksLV | I removed virtualmin | 16:02 |
| Daviey | so apt-get install "something else", and it won't be marked for removal | 16:02 |
| EriksLV | now it wants to remove mysql/apache | 16:02 |
| EriksLV | thanks Daviey, that works | 16:07 |
| jamespage | Daviey: jenkins builds just fine in PPA BTW - not sure what is up with your pbuilder | 16:45 |
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| BrixSat | i have a problem. i lost my user password | 17:05 |
| BrixSat | and so i cant login to the vps. the grub menu does not show, is there any way to enter the vps? | 17:05 |
| patdk-wk | mount your vps filesystem on other system | 17:08 |
| Pota | I am running ngrep. Does this capture packets before or after iptables? Can I control which side of iptables the sniffing is done on for the sake of testing my rules ? | 17:09 |
| doko | zul, likewise-open ping | 17:11 |
| zul | doko: pong whats up? | 17:12 |
| RoAkSoAx | smoser: ping? | 17:19 |
| smoser | RoAkSoAx, here | 17:19 |
| doko | zul, why were the armel patches dropped? | 17:19 |
| zul | doko: i have no idea we get the package from upstream | 17:19 |
| RoAkSoAx | smoser: what was the bug # for the issue we had when depoying with ensemble | 17:20 |
| Tophat | Have a Dell GX260 with latest BIOS A09. Can't get installation of LTS going with USB keyboard/mouse | 17:20 |
| RoAkSoAx | smoser: that cloud-init run stuff because the network was supposed to be up but it wasn't? | 17:20 |
| doko | zul, then pretty please educate upstream not to drop changes. didn't get any feedback on bug 823717 either. imnsho this is the task of the sponsor | 17:21 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 823717 in likewise-open "likewise-open version 6.1.0.406-0ubuntu2 failed to build on armel" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/823717 | 17:21 |
| smoser | bug 838968 | 17:21 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 838968 in ifupdown "static-network-up event does not wait for interfaces to have an address" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/838968 | 17:21 |
| RoAkSoAx | smoser: thanks | 17:21 |
| smoser | so you should be good now... | 17:21 |
| RoAkSoAx | smoser: cool | 17:21 |
| RoAkSoAx | gonna test | 17:21 |
| zul | doko: crap...sorry about that | 17:21 |
| koolhead11 | Daviey, hey | 17:21 |
| RoAkSoAx | Daviey: ok so bug ^^ is fixed, so I should be able to deploy without any issues now | 17:22 |
| smoser | RoAkSoAx, | 17:24 |
| RoAkSoAx | smoser: yes? | 17:24 |
| smoser | grab the cloud-init log ensemble patch if you can | 17:24 |
| smoser | and apply to ensemble | 17:24 |
| smoser | hold on | 17:24 |
| smoser | bug 842488 | 17:24 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 842488 in ensemble "Enable cloud-init debug output to better support problem analysis" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/842488 | 17:24 |
| smoser | branch is linked there, patch is pretty trivial | 17:24 |
| RoAkSoAx | smoser: you want that in trunk or just in our test branch? | 17:25 |
| smoser | well, it is proposed for merging, and i think hazmat is aware. and SpamapS said he'd pull to ubuntu ensemble package | 17:26 |
| smoser | but for your testing, pull it | 17:26 |
| RoAkSoAx | smoser: alrighty | 17:26 |
| smoser | it just redirects output of cloud-init and all its subprocesses to a file so you can see it (other than to the console) | 17:26 |
| koolhead11 | RoAkSoAx, you mean the bug i reported is fixed :D | 17:26 |
| RoAkSoAx | koolhead11: which one? | 17:26 |
| koolhead11 | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debian-installer/+bug/842509 | 17:27 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 842509 in debian-installer "debian-installer fails to proceed/ceases if preseed fails to assign IP automatically." [Undecided,New] | 17:27 |
| RoAkSoAx | koolhead11: nope, i mean bug | 17:28 |
| koolhead11 | oops. k | 17:28 |
| RoAkSoAx | koolhead11: nope, i mean bug #842488 | 17:28 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 842488 in ensemble "Enable cloud-init debug output to better support problem analysis" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/842488 | 17:28 |
| koolhead11 | ooh nice. well i was not able to get it working on AWS | 17:28 |
| veenenen | Anyone worked with ipv6 on an ubuntu server running as a kvm server before? | 17:36 |
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| veenenen | I can get the public route to show up witih "ip -6 route", but the interface never seems to get attached. | 17:37 |
| veenenen | I check ifconfing, and all I see is the local ipv6 address | 17:38 |
| koolhead11 | no | 17:42 |
| sbeattie | Daviey: FYI, bug 837991 | 17:45 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 837991 in apache2 "Please merge apache2 2.2.20-1 to fix CVE-2011-3192+regressions" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/837991 | 17:45 |
| Daviey | sbeattie: you sir, are a rock star! | 17:47 |
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| Daviey | sbeattie: Thanks for that, it was more than perfect. | 18:31 |
| sbeattie | Daviey: awesome. Of course, my first attempt at it managed to drop the hardening-wrapper build dependency, which would have made me a sad panda had I not caught it. | 18:33 |
| Daviey | sbeattie: Yeah, we keep trying to drop the PIE stuff, but it keeps getting noticed. :) | 18:33 |
| Daviey | sbeattie: I'm suprised you can't upload this stuff directly.. you should. | 18:34 |
| robbiew | okay folks....gotta fire in some nearby woods...railroad tracks are a good barrier between the woods and my neighborhood, but I need to go afk for a bit until I know it's safe | 18:42 |
| Solskogen | hi! I've just installed oneiric (server) and noticed that I had some troubles with locales. http://pastebin.com/dtvCj89K - just wondered if this is a known problem, or if I should report it, or if I have some gremlins on my system. | 18:50 |
| multiHYP | hi, how can i set multiple sites under the same ip/domain using apache2? | 19:12 |
| multiHYP | basically, i don't want to put my index.html of one of my sites under /var/www/. besides as a user i don't have permission anyway. | 19:13 |
| doko | zul, any idea why likewise-open ships a DEBIAN/shlibs in the package?? | 19:20 |
| zul | no | 19:20 |
| robbiew | fire contained...all is good :) | 19:24 |
| multiHYP | which service is best for domain name registration? in the uk godaddy and namecheap are famous… | 19:30 |
| jpds | multiHYP: Use virtual hosts? | 19:34 |
| multiHYP | yeah that i figured | 19:34 |
| multiHYP | but thanks jpds | 19:34 |
| jpds | multiHYP: And for domains, it's really up to you. | 19:35 |
| multiHYP | jpds: do you use any? | 19:35 |
| jpds | No. | 19:36 |
| gummybear | greetings all, setting up my first ubuntu-server, so far so good... | 19:36 |
| zul | utlemming: did someone already claimed the review? | 19:42 |
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| zul | smoser: ping about cloud-init-output-log....how does that work? | 19:51 |
| smoser | cloud-init redirects its stdin and stdout to the expected filehandles or pipes | 19:52 |
| smoser | and subprocesses inherit those | 19:52 |
| zul | so you get the ssh keys and that kind of stuff? | 19:52 |
| smoser | all output other than (unfortunately, the stuff i recently added 'ci-info:' ) that would go to console will go there. | 19:53 |
| smoser | (well, with 'tee' it will go both places) | 19:53 |
| zul | dang...because that would be good for the lxc containers | 19:54 |
| * zul is toying with some ideas | 19:54 | |
| * koolhead11 is confused and feeling restless | 19:56 | |
| koolhead11 | Daviey, how any idea how much time it will take someone to fix this issue | 19:59 |
| koolhead11 | i was wondering if i should file one more bug | 19:59 |
| aleuck | hey | 20:13 |
| koolhead11 | aleuck, hey | 20:14 |
| aleuck | where is the folder that is copyed to a user's home folder when the user is created? | 20:15 |
| genii-around | /etc/skel | 20:15 |
| aleuck | could anyone help me on that? | 20:15 |
| aleuck | thx | 20:15 |
| Daviey | koolhead11: I'm concerned there isn't enough information to be able to reproduce the current one. | 20:17 |
| Daviey | It might be an idea to try the iso that is created tommorrow | 20:17 |
| Daviey | (import it into cobbler) | 20:17 |
| koolhead11 | Daviey, am doing to do that only :D | 20:17 |
| koolhead11 | Daviey, one more thing the DHCP takes ages to assign IP to provisioning system | 20:18 |
| Daviey | koolhead11: Ah, try the ISO which is HOT OFF THE PRESS | 20:18 |
| Daviey | you may well be the first person to try the one just created | 20:19 |
| koolhead11 | Daviey, am going to do that as first first its around 2 am and am alone scared in office :D | 20:19 |
| Daviey | koolhead11: Regarding DHCP, you are not the first person to notice this.. smoser was working on a fix for that, don't know the current status. | 20:19 |
| Daviey | (might not be the same issue) | 20:19 |
| koolhead11 | Daviey, another probable bug is, when my DHCP fails and am manually assigning the IP. | 20:20 |
| Daviey | This sounds like something else | 20:20 |
| koolhead11 | information about my hostname coming from preseed file gets over written with 1st set of the IP | 20:21 |
| koolhead11 | say i am giving static IP 192.168.1.3 | 20:21 |
| koolhead11 | so my hostname becomes 192 | 20:21 |
| koolhead11 | :( | 20:21 |
| smoser | whats going on ? | 20:23 |
| smoser | koolhead11, explain ? | 20:23 |
| * koolhead11 bows to Smark | 20:23 | |
| koolhead11 | smoser, am running cobbler and its taking care of my DHCP server as well | 20:23 |
| koolhead11 | i have a pressed file which i have assigned most infos like hostname and all | 20:24 |
| koolhead11 | now during provisioning, most of the time my automatic DHCP IP assignment fails and when i assign the IP manually | 20:24 |
| koolhead11 | so say i gave the machine IP 192.168.1.8 | 20:24 |
| koolhead11 | after the provisioning once system boots | 20:25 |
| koolhead11 | it acquires hostname ==> 192 | 20:25 |
| koolhead11 | instead the one i defined in my preseed file | 20:25 |
| koolhead11 | If am lucky and DHCP assigns the IP then i get hostname as per my preseed file :D | 20:26 |
| koolhead11 | and yes the same behaviour is seen when am assigning an static IP for the provisoned oneiric system | 20:28 |
| koolhead11 | smoser, also this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debian-installer/+bug/842509 , i will test the latest build tomorrow. I wish i will be able to see few fixes else i will file bug for the above mentioned | 20:30 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 842509 in debian-installer "debian-installer fails to proceed/ceases if preseed fails to assign IP automatically." [Undecided,New] | 20:30 |
| storrgie | how do i change my X config to use my monitor properly | 20:33 |
| storrgie | right now its at a goofy resolution | 20:33 |
| smoser | ok. i do not believe it is related to what i was working on unless you have cloud-init in the picture. (which youprobably do not). | 20:33 |
| koolhead11 | smoser, no cloud-init | 20:34 |
| smoser | check the 'dpkg -l' to be sure | 20:34 |
| smoser | but it could be hosing you, and we have cobbler stuff that might be shoving it in there.... | 20:34 |
| * koolhead11 points storrgie, #ubuntu | 20:34 | |
| storrgie | koolhead11, its for ubuntu server | 20:34 |
| storrgie | I have a monitor attached to the server | 20:34 |
| koolhead11 | smoser, as Daviey i will test everything on new CD tomorrow :D | 20:35 |
| Daviey | RoAkSoAx: Having a problem with the installer? | 21:13 |
| jamespage | Daviey, RoAkSoAx: if screenshot is from PXE network install could be related to lack of daily images for the last few days (assuming setup is using full ISO rather than mini?) | 21:18 |
| jamespage | I had a very similar issue with my local install environment yesterday which I banged my head against the wall for an hour or so with :-) | 21:19 |
| Daviey | jamespage: Argh.. normally it shows - a problem with linux-modules could not be found. | 21:19 |
| Daviey | Was it the same issue? | 21:19 |
| Daviey | RoAkSoAx: there is a fresh daily ISO to try, if you want? | 21:20 |
| jamespage | i got that same message - I think the kernel upped a version since 01/09 | 21:20 |
| jamespage | could not detect any local disk so iSCSI instead :-) | 21:20 |
| jamespage | Daviey: are you doing a bit of sponsoring ATM? | 21:21 |
| Daviey | jamespage: can do.. | 21:23 |
| Daviey | I was just fixing some packages i do not care about for fun. | 21:24 |
| Ursinha | lol | 21:24 |
| jamespage | Daviey: lp:~james-page/ubuntu/oneiric/jenkins/misc-fixes is ready to go if you have time | 21:24 |
| jamespage | I did check in PPA - worked just fine so not sure whats up with your pbuilder environment :-( | 21:24 |
| RoAkSoAx | jamespage: ok so AFAIK the image might have been updated in cobbler | 21:27 |
| RoAkSoAx | jamespage: but it is an ISO | 21:27 |
| RoAkSoAx | Daviey: yeah I'll do that | 21:27 |
| jamespage | OK so as we have had not ISO's since the first thats prob the issue | 21:27 |
| jamespage | well it was for me anyway | 21:27 |
| RoAkSoAx | Daviey: I havent manually updated the ISO myself, so the cronjob that is installed might have done so | 21:27 |
| RoAkSoAx | so if it was a recently imported ISO that might be the issue | 21:28 |
| RoAkSoAx | will try today's daily | 21:28 |
| RoAkSoAx | and see what happends | 21:28 |
| jamespage | The mini.iso works just fine | 21:28 |
| jamespage | but that gets built differently | 21:28 |
| RoAkSoAx | jamespage: what I'm using is also a mini ISO | 21:28 |
| jamespage | when did it last get updated? | 21:28 |
| Daviey | RoAkSoAx: it was only published a few hours ago, so unlikely the cronjob picked it up | 21:28 |
| RoAkSoAx | Daviey: indeed | 21:29 |
| RoAkSoAx | jamespage: 21st | 21:29 |
| jamespage | yeah - so it will def. be borked | 21:29 |
| jamespage | an update should fix | 21:30 |
| RoAkSoAx | jamespage: k will do that | 21:30 |
| RoAkSoAx | thanks | 21:30 |
| jamespage | np | 21:30 |
| jamespage | I lost time on it - wanted to make sure you did not :-) | 21:30 |
| jamespage | anyway - bed time | 21:31 |
| * jamespage yawns | 21:31 | |
| jamespage | ttfn | 21:31 |
| Daviey | nn jamespage | 21:34 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #843296 in net-snmp (main) "cannot install snmp-mibs-downloader - does not exist" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/843296 | 21:51 |
| Ursinha | Daviey, qa-regression-testing is really neat | 21:58 |
| idlemind324 | on 10.04 lts i installed openssh-server and tried to use it with my 16 character password but it would not let me in. i changed it to a 10 character password and i was able to get in. aside from using keys how do i extend the length of passwords ssh can use? | 22:03 |
| idlemind324 | on the servers local console if i run ssh -l <myusername> localhost ... i can use my 16 character password | 22:03 |
| idlemind324 | i am unable to use my 16 character password from my 11.04 desktop | 22:04 |
| Ursinha | idlemind324, what's the error message? | 22:06 |
| idlemind324 | it simply fails authentication | 22:06 |
| idlemind324 | if i change my password from 16 characters to 10 it works | 22:06 |
| idlemind324 | i just never thought ssh on the client side would fial because a password was too long | 22:06 |
| Ursinha | stupid question, but is it possible that you have a function key enabled or something that might be producing the wrong char in the 16 chars passwd? | 22:07 |
| idlemind324 | nah i the ssh server is a vm on the machine i'm using for the client so if it had a function key on i would assume it would replicate to both | 22:08 |
| idlemind324 | i guess it could be one of my special characters | 22:08 |
| idlemind324 | i'm trying a strictly numeric 16 character password atm | 22:08 |
| idlemind324 | hmm | 22:09 |
| idlemind324 | must be a character | 22:09 |
| idlemind324 | * special character | 22:09 |
| idlemind324 | 16 character numeric password worked | 22:09 |
| Ursinha | :) | 22:09 |
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| idlemind324 | now to find out what specials break it | 22:10 |
| Ursinha-afk | idlemind324, check if it shows correctly in plain text inside the vm | 22:11 |
| idlemind324 | it does | 22:11 |
| Ursinha-afk | hmm | 22:11 |
| Ursinha-afk | idlemind324, did it work before or that's the first time you're trying that? | 22:12 |
| idlemind324 | first time around | 22:12 |
| idlemind324 | interesting | 22:12 |
| idlemind324 | when running passwd | 22:12 |
| idlemind324 | using just ))(( as my password it says "No password supplied" | 22:12 |
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| Ursinha-afk | hmm, I don't get it then | 22:13 |
| Ursinha-afk | :/ | 22:13 |
| idlemind324 | hmm | 22:13 |
| idlemind324 | me thinks me found it | 22:13 |
| Ursinha-afk | and what's that? | 22:14 |
| idlemind324 | the vm isn't capturing the )('s at terminal | 22:14 |
| * Ursinha-afk is curious | 22:14 | |
| Ursinha-afk | ah, thought so | 22:14 |
| idlemind324 | it gets all other specials it seems | 22:14 |
| idlemind324 | now to figure out why | 22:14 |
| Ursinha-afk | it's almost always something about special chars assignment | 22:14 |
| idlemind324 | could it have something to do with keyboard layout selection? | 22:15 |
| Ursinha-afk | or the vm manager shortcuts setup as well | 22:15 |
| Daviey | Ursinha-afk: yeah, it is nice! | 22:22 |
| Daviey | Ursinha-afk: we should use it more :) | 22:22 |
| lajjr | Hello kim0 | 23:05 |
| kim0 | lamont: hey | 23:26 |
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