| === Team-Xlink is now known as TeamXlink | ||
| brousch | nixternal: does ubuntu-chicago have meetings? | 00:34 |
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| rick_h_ | nixternal: what bike did you run? You still riding? | 00:41 |
| greg-g | bikes? someone said bikes? | 00:49 |
| rick_h_ | greg-g: !!! | 00:49 |
| rick_h_ | dude | 00:49 |
| rick_h_ | halp! | 00:49 |
| rick_h_ | I'm in bike overload | 00:49 |
| greg-g | :) | 00:50 |
| greg-g | I'm on a plane, laggy laggy | 00:50 |
| rick_h_ | ouch | 00:50 |
| rick_h_ | I think I'm down to the trek 7.2, 7.3, or fast city/wingra | 00:50 |
| rick_h_ | going to hit the shop tomorrow and try to see if they have any of those to ride | 00:50 |
| greg-g | nice | 00:50 |
| rick_h_ | my poor old 10+yr old GT aggressor isn't keeping up and having derailor issues. | 00:52 |
| rick_h_ | especially with the boy on the trailer | 00:52 |
| rick_h_ | is there another comparable brand I shuold be making sure I compare against? | 00:53 |
| rick_h_ | I checked schwinn, seems a bit cheaper all around | 00:53 |
| rick_h_ | diamondback, website was a pita to use | 00:53 |
| snap-l | schwinn is essentially a chinese bike manufacturer | 01:01 |
| snap-l | I believe they make all of the mongoose, huffy, and schwinn bikes | 01:01 |
| rick_h_ | k, I wasn't feeling all warm/fuzzy when I checked | 01:06 |
| rick_h_ | the diamondback seems like it might be cool, but not really sure | 01:06 |
| rick_h_ | not as much info as trek | 01:06 |
| greg-g | rick_h_: Lemond. Made by trek, but cheaper. Kinda like the GMC/Chevy difference. | 01:06 |
| rick_h_ | greg-g: looking, thanks! | 01:07 |
| rick_h_ | hmm, seeing stuff on a lawsuit in 2009 and no bikes | 01:08 |
| rick_h_ | just some excercise gear | 01:08 |
| greg-g | rick_h_: huh! I didn't know! :) | 01:36 |
| snap-l | jrwren: I added your blog post to the team report. | 01:49 |
| nixternal | rick_h_: if you get the wingra cheap enough go for it, or wait a few more weeks and pick up a Trek 7.3FX (I have one, awesome bike!). The 2012 Trek's come out soon and last years models will drop about $100 | 02:10 |
| nixternal | snap-l: schwinn is owned by pacifica, which is the same company that makes all of those bike you said plus they also make Cannondale lower end frames | 02:11 |
| nixternal | brousch: ubuntu-chicago hasn't had a meeting in a while. well they have had them, i just don't go to them | 02:11 |
| nixternal | greg-g: LeMond is no longer. Greg and Trek had a fall out years ago | 02:12 |
| nixternal | Trek has a lifetime warranty on their frames, their bikes are good. The 7.3FX is made in Taiwan I think, but that is no biggy anymore. Also, you want to build a good relation with the shop you choose | 02:13 |
| Wolfger | morning, party people | 12:07 |
| brousch | in the place to be | 12:10 |
| rick_h_ | yay for broken work network connections to liven up the day | 12:10 |
| brousch | go home and work | 12:11 |
| snap-l | rick_h_: That's the beauty of holiday weekends: something always breaks | 12:22 |
| rick_h_ | yea, and holiday returns...helpdesk isn't in yet. Must be taking the late bus into work today | 12:26 |
| brousch | is that a short bus? | 12:26 |
| snap-l | brousch: Hey now. IT folks gotta get to work somehow. ;) | 12:37 |
| rick_h_ | http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/k6c8z/guis_kick_clis_asses/ | 13:09 |
| rick_h_ | I'm afraid to click | 13:09 |
| rick_h_ | not sure if I'm ready to contain the rage this early :P | 13:09 |
| Wolfger | do it | 13:10 |
| Wolfger | release the beast | 13:10 |
| brousch | rick_h_: you are just ignorant about good guis | 13:10 |
| brousch | rick_h_: don't go there. it is idiotic | 13:11 |
| rick_h_ | crap, too late | 13:12 |
| rick_h_ | *sigh* | 13:12 |
| brousch | sorry man, i tried to save you | 13:13 |
| rick_h_ | g<tab><space>co<space>m<tab><enter> or g<space>com if you're a rock start | 13:13 |
| rick_h_ | and he forgets the fact that he's got to open/get his damn gui to that place he can use his 6 keypresses | 13:13 |
| rick_h_ | bah, C-w, C-w!!!! | 13:14 |
| _stink_ | hah, http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/k6c8z/guis_kick_clis_asses/c2htw87 | 13:15 |
| Wolfger | '“But wait,” the Vim fanboy cries, “how the hell could a GUI have anything close to a “high” speed rating?”' | 13:17 |
| Wolfger | ...seems like he's talked to rick_h_ :-) | 13:17 |
| rick_h_ | I'm replying, once second | 13:18 |
| rick_h_ | ok, reply entered | 13:18 |
| _stink_ | second? | 13:18 |
| brousch | it would only take half a second to reply if you were doing it via gui | 13:18 |
| jcastro | man, awesome | 13:19 |
| jcastro | snap-l: did you read this "techcrunch may be over" blog? | 13:19 |
| rick_h_ | jcastro: :) wouldn't that be great | 13:19 |
| rick_h_ | I thnk it's just the rise of MG though | 13:19 |
| jcastro | http://techcrunch.com/2011/09/06/the-end/ | 13:19 |
| jcastro | yeah | 13:20 |
| jcastro | I wouldn't miss that guy | 13:20 |
| rick_h_ | I mean, he's the only flame-bait up there to bring in clicks now | 13:20 |
| rick_h_ | everyone else to to reasonable | 13:20 |
| jcastro | he's the revisionist maclot snap-l aspires to be | 13:20 |
| rick_h_ | I'm pretty sure I saw at least 3 posters when I was there before the jam this weekend | 13:21 |
| Wolfger | _stink_: I ++'d that comment. Thanks for the link to it. :-) | 13:21 |
| _stink_ | o/ | 13:24 |
| rick_h_ | crap he replied and more nonsense came out | 13:25 |
| rick_h_ | I need to just close it | 13:25 |
| brousch | you can't close it without cd'ing to the directory where the binary is | 13:25 |
| * rick_h_ is resisting urge to send workit link, link to pyohio talk on building dev environments, noting every damn tool out there that bootstraps envs uses cmd line... | 13:25 | |
| brousch | sounds like a lot of work | 13:25 |
| rick_h_ | yea, and if I shortcut git to g it might conflict with a lot of other programs named g | 13:26 |
| snap-l | jcastro: Did you seriously compare me with Mike Arrington? | 13:52 |
| jcastro | no, MG Siegler. | 13:52 |
| snap-l | brb, have to start my compost pile to give you when you return | 13:52 |
| jcastro | :D | 13:52 |
| snap-l | I never like seeing a founder leave their company after a takeover | 13:53 |
| snap-l | but frankly, Techcrunch did it to themselves by partnering with AOL | 13:54 |
| snap-l | AOL is about as "don't get it" as you can get. | 13:54 |
| rick_h_ | I think that starting your own VC company when you're a news source is about as "don't get it" as you can get | 13:55 |
| snap-l | I envision someone took a stroll through the mail-room, spied a pile of Infoworld magazines, and saw "Techcrunch" on one of the labels and exclaimed "What the hell is a Techcrunch?" | 13:55 |
| snap-l | and then filed everyone into their office for a proper dress-down | 13:55 |
| snap-l | rick_h_: that too | 13:56 |
| rick_h_ | "I'm sick of interviewing rich kids who are bound to make more $$ than me, let's start our own VC fund and then they can grovel like the kids they are!" | 13:57 |
| snap-l | Jesus, this blog entry is pretty myopic | 13:58 |
| snap-l | the GUI vs. CLI | 13:58 |
| snap-l | Use both, and STFU | 13:58 |
| snap-l | I wouldn't want to set my system volume from a pulse-audio command, and I wouldn't want to try onboarding an entire datacenter from a GUI | 14:00 |
| snap-l | well, I would love to onboard an entire datacenter with a single button called "do it, and do it right" | 14:01 |
| jjesse | if i have the jobs and task structure built right then i'll build a data center from a gui | 14:01 |
| jjesse | drag job stream to stack of computers, go to lunch, profit | 14:01 |
| snap-l | but if we're being unrealistic, I'd love to shout that command to my magickal flying Pegasus while soaring through the datacenter on a rainbow-colored highway of dreams. | 14:02 |
| jjesse | i'm not bein unrealistic | 14:02 |
| snap-l | jjesse: And when one errors out? | 14:03 |
| jjesse | depends on if you can build jobs and tasks around whatever return code you are receiving | 14:03 |
| snap-l | Also, what's happening in the background? Is it just using command-line when you're not looking? :) | 14:03 |
| jjesse | depends on what stage of the game i'm running | 14:03 |
| snap-l | exactly | 14:03 |
| jjesse | hard to run in GUI when you are operating in a pre-boot environment | 14:04 |
| brousch | i understand what the geeker means about seeing more in a GUI. but i've come to realize most of what you're seeing is useless noise 90% of the time | 14:16 |
| brousch | dozens of buttons i don't need or don't need right now, folder hierarchies i don't care about until i want to open a different file, class hierarchies i don't ever actually look at | 14:17 |
| Wolfger | right | 14:34 |
| brousch | but for some reason having those things makes me feel better than not having them. i cannot explain why | 14:35 |
| Wolfger | if I want to see all that in a CLI, I can. In fact, I usually *do* run ls before I cp or mv | 14:35 |
| Wolfger | where GUI rules is when I don't know what I'm looking for. It's easier to browse | 14:36 |
| ch0use | so has anyone built a set of load-balanced apache web servers using ipvs or crossroads or something? | 14:41 |
| ch0use | ala http://www.ultramonkey.org/papers/lvs_tutorial/html/ | 14:41 |
| ch0use | i have 2 identical ubunu webservers behind an ubuntu nat/router and currently port 80 is forwarding to one of them, but i want the router to balance across the two, bunch of virtualhost domain websites etc | 14:43 |
| rick_h_ | ch0use: I'd just start out with dns round robin | 14:54 |
| rick_h_ | if you need more than that, check out haproxy | 14:54 |
| ch0use | the rub of it is i only have 1 internet IP, so dns-rr isn't an option | 14:55 |
| ch0use | good game haproxy, will give it a look | 14:55 |
| rick_h_ | right, but the router can have multiple dns entries for where it's sending to | 14:55 |
| rick_h_ | if your firewall box has two entries in it's local dns for web.something.com | 14:55 |
| rick_h_ | it should round robin those | 14:56 |
| ch0use | do you mean iptables config, where i have it accept and direct port 80 requests to the IP of the internal webserver? change to use a hostname that resolves to the 2 IPs of the 2 internal webesrvers? | 14:57 |
| rick_h_ | no, I mean internal DNS | 14:58 |
| rick_h_ | where you setup your internal IP addresses to names you give them | 14:58 |
| ch0use | alright so some more background, this is for a webhosting env out on the internet running on vmware esx. 1 internet-facing VM, 2 private-network VMs behind it, currently fowarding internet incoming port 80 to one of the web VMs | 14:59 |
| rick_h_ | the 3vms have to have an ip address on the same network | 14:59 |
| ch0use | correct | 14:59 |
| rick_h_ | your internet facing vm can run a local dns server | 14:59 |
| ch0use | it does | 15:00 |
| rick_h_ | that the 3 all share | 15:00 |
| rick_h_ | if that dns has two entries for hte same cname | 15:00 |
| rick_h_ | ic, you're not proxying, you're straight port forwarding | 15:00 |
| ch0use | right | 15:00 |
| rick_h_ | you need a proxy in there | 15:00 |
| ch0use | haproxy | 15:00 |
| rick_h_ | be it an apache/nginx proxy on the internet facing host | 15:00 |
| rick_h_ | haproxy | 15:00 |
| rick_h_ | whatever | 15:00 |
| ch0use | gg | 15:01 |
| rick_h_ | sorry, thought you already had apache on internet box forwarding to apache on internal box | 15:01 |
| ch0use | ah yes, not as such | 15:01 |
| ch0use | i have a 1U box with single install of ubuntu in Troy at Waveform colo doing webhosting for 100 or so domains, want to replace it with a virtualized platform where services are spread out over a number of VMs on a beefier box | 15:04 |
| ch0use | been a fun project | 15:04 |
| brousch | ch0use: i see gr in your domain. you on the west side? | 15:05 |
| ch0use | yeah | 15:05 |
| brousch | woohoo! we got another one | 15:05 |
| ch0use | :-D | 15:05 |
| jrwren | rick_h_: that guis kick clis asses is actually really good. | 15:05 |
| jrwren | ch0use: if you are doing it for scaling purposes and have stateless web apps, you can just use mod_proxy_balancer | 15:08 |
| jrwren | and to a lesser degree you can rely on mod_proxy_balancer stickyness | 15:08 |
| ch0use | interesting. users install all kinds of stateful/stateless stuff, so probably need to keep state | 15:13 |
| rick_h_ | yea, ha proxy can handle that as well | 15:13 |
| ch0use | very interesting | 15:14 |
| ch0use | i like the idea of keeping it within apache | 15:15 |
| jrwren | ok... i take it back, that gui kicks CLI ass is STUPID. | 15:17 |
| jrwren | i can counterpoint every one of his "less keystrokes" argument. | 15:17 |
| jrwren | ch0use: haproxy is actually MADE for this, so unless you need apache for your port80 on that load balancer, haproxy is probably a better way to go. | 15:18 |
| jrwren | haproxy is going to do it WAY faster too. | 15:18 |
| ch0use | yeah? | 15:18 |
| ch0use | it does look made for it honestly | 15:18 |
| jrwren | well, at load... if you aren't hitting peak loads, it won't matter. | 15:19 |
| ch0use | i will probably give haproxy a try first | 15:19 |
| ch0use | other things i found are quite a bit older | 15:19 |
| rick_h_ | yea, haproxy is meant to do this stuff. We've moved to using it and it's pretty damn awesome and can grow with you tbh | 15:20 |
| ch0use | very good | 15:20 |
| jrwren | rick_h_: does it handle stateful sessions very well? | 15:24 |
| rick_h_ | jrwren: yea, it does some header magic and keeps people to the right server | 15:27 |
| rick_h_ | we use it for proxying users to the multiple java app backends | 15:27 |
| rick_h_ | you log into one and we have to keep the cookie/session stuff to the java apps consistent | 15:28 |
| rick_h_ | http://redmine.webtoolkit.eu/projects/wt/wiki/Using_HAProxy_as_a_reverse_proxy talks about it some | 15:30 |
| rick_h_ | using a cookie in haproxy or setting your own info to help direct it which box the user goes to | 15:30 |
| snap-l | WEll that was fun | 15:33 |
| snap-l | My network conked out | 15:33 |
| rick_h_ | oops | 15:33 |
| snap-l | Happily it's working now | 15:33 |
| jrwren | rick_h_: thanks. | 15:35 |
| rick_h_ | np, I'm always impressed with it. Finally got work to start using it and makes live much nicer | 15:37 |
| rick_h_ | love tools where the boss goes "yea..but we need..." | 15:37 |
| rick_h_ | "yea, like this...it already does that" | 15:37 |
| brousch | i just put my first TL;DR into an announcement to a tech group | 15:44 |
| rick_h_ | hah, awesome | 15:45 |
| rick_h_ | we all thank you for it | 15:45 |
| brousch | It's nice for them, but it's also nice for me since I feel like I can be more eloquent in the main body if I include a TL;DR | 15:47 |
| snap-l | I <3 contract renewal time | 15:52 |
| snap-l | either I'm going to be taking off two months in the Bahamas digging for sand crabs, or I'll be working | 15:52 |
| rick_h_ | thought you were good until dec? | 15:52 |
| snap-l | WEll, who knows. | 15:52 |
| rick_h_ | uh oh | 15:53 |
| snap-l | Can't seem to get straight answers about what this might mean | 15:53 |
| snap-l | could be that I get paid to do nothingx2 | 15:53 |
| snap-l | could mean that I'm laid off | 15:53 |
| snap-l | Could be two months to get to tier2 support level | 15:53 |
| brousch | bahamas sounds good | 15:54 |
| snap-l | Yeah, that would be awesome | 15:54 |
| jrwren | rick_h_: what was that lenovo site you mentioned? | 15:56 |
| rick_h_ | lenovooutlet.com | 15:56 |
| jrwren | ah, lots of bad reviews. but you are good experience? | 15:56 |
| rick_h_ | bad reviews on what? | 15:57 |
| rick_h_ | oh sorry, outlet.lenovo.com | 15:57 |
| brousch | that's a parked domain | 15:58 |
| rick_h_ | my bad | 15:58 |
| _stink_ | hah | 15:58 |
| brousch | great. now spammers know i like lenovo | 15:58 |
| rick_h_ | bwuhahaha! | 15:58 |
| rick_h_ | and I will find some way to profit! | 15:58 |
| brousch | well you work for a marketing company, so you probably get a kickback for sending me there | 15:58 |
| rick_h_ | surely | 15:59 |
| brousch | enjoy your blood money! | 16:00 |
| jrwren | even worse, a porn makerting company :p | 16:00 |
| rick_h_ | crap, how do I get transfered to that dept of the company? | 16:01 |
| brousch | wtf how is it noon already? | 16:02 |
| jrwren | tuesday after holiday. time is faster. | 16:07 |
| jrwren | its a fundamental law of physics. | 16:08 |
| rick_h_ | jrwren: I hear that's what keeps throwing carbon dating off. Doesn't account for all post-holiday speed ups in the time continium | 16:20 |
| jrwren | its true. | 16:24 |
| jrwren | it explains the genesis creation. every day was a holiday. time went much faster. 20billion years in 6 days. | 16:25 |
| Wolfger | brousch: it's after noon already because of the power of GUI :-D | 16:30 |
| snap-l | What the fuck is this? | 16:33 |
| snap-l | http://www.meijer.com/s/big-steals/_/N-5io?CAWELAID=677385714&cmpid=dstue | 16:33 |
| ch0use | hah, i saw that in my email too | 16:36 |
| ch0use | i love the reviews of http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16896630001 | 16:36 |
| ch0use | facebook generates 600GB of logfiles every day http://www.facebook.com/notes/facebook-engineering/keeping-the-site-reliable-while-moving-fast/10150277682538920 | 16:40 |
| ch0use | fascinating | 16:40 |
| rick_h_ | I'd have thought it'd be more :/ | 16:40 |
| ch0use | use apache hive to distill it down | 16:42 |
| snap-l | Yay, got the business cards in today. | 17:07 |
| snap-l | https://picasaweb.google.com/117777908934895049975/MiscellaneousDebris#5649295680087388498 | 17:13 |
| ch0use | nice. those are +1 | 17:15 |
| greg-g | snap-l: niice! | 17:16 |
| snap-l | Thanks. brousch Did a heck of a job with the layout | 17:17 |
| snap-l | And the QR code turned out awesome on the back | 17:17 |
| brousch | snap-l: nice cards | 17:25 |
| snap-l | Thank you for the awesome layout | 17:26 |
| brousch | codenamed screw the UP | 17:26 |
| snap-l | Yeah | 17:26 |
| brousch | wtf is pinterest? | 17:28 |
| Wolfger | brousch: didn't the UP secede from Michigan? | 17:28 |
| rick_h_ | nice! | 17:29 |
| snap-l | Wolfger: They will after this card. ;) | 17:29 |
| Wolfger | I went to college up there and my roommate was a Yooper who was a firm supporter of the movement to make the UP the 51st state. | 17:30 |
| Wolfger | something about paying taxes and being ignored... I dunno. | 17:30 |
| Wolfger | I think they're just upset they can't show where they live by pointing to a spot on their hand. :-) | 17:31 |
| snap-l | Yeah | 17:31 |
| snap-l | Or being referred to as the rabbit jumping over the mitten | 17:31 |
| brousch | ch0use: before you disappear, we have 2 linux user groups in GR, grlug and wmlug, check them out | 17:32 |
| ch0use | i have heard of them | 17:32 |
| ch0use | free time is very valuable so i haven't made it to any | 17:33 |
| jrwren | i agree entirely with teh UP people. | 17:33 |
| Wolfger | jrwren: yah, eh? | 17:34 |
| brousch | ch0use: you can hang out in #grlug on irc | 17:34 |
| ch0use | :-\ re http://grandrapids-lug.org/ | 17:35 |
| brousch | yeah, that web page is a problem | 17:35 |
| brousch | the mailing list and weekly social meetings are what the grlug offers http://grlug.org/mailman/listinfo/grlug | 17:36 |
| _stink_ | that site is awesome! | 17:36 |
| brousch | it used to redirect to a wiki that is never updated | 17:36 |
| jrwren | s/never udpated/down/ | 17:38 |
| brousch | well it used to redirect to a wiki that was never updated, now i points to a wiki that is broken :P | 17:39 |
| Wolfger | I think that might be an improvement, actually. | 17:39 |
| brousch | ch0use: http://wmlug.org is another linux group. monthly meetings, announce-only mailing list, run by ptenhoopen | 17:40 |
| ch0use | wmlug > grlug in terms of website fyi | 17:41 |
| brousch | if you notice i didn't actually send you to the grlug web site ;) there's a reason for that | 17:42 |
| ch0use | :-D | 17:42 |
| snap-l | It seems our GRLUG box was stolen (or otherwise made to disappear) from it's unsupervised location at EMU. Unfortunately, our mailing list resided on that box. | 17:50 |
| snap-l | Wow | 17:50 |
| snap-l | Talk about being hosed. | 17:50 |
| jrwren | why you still need backups 101 :) | 17:50 |
| snap-l | Why you need remote backups, 102 | 17:50 |
| Wolfger | what's a backup? :-p | 17:51 |
| snap-l | Wolfger: What you'll want to have once your data disappears | 17:51 |
| Wolfger | Oh, right. But isn't Teh Cloud supposed to save me? | 17:51 |
| brousch | that happened like 6 years ago | 17:52 |
| brousch | just the usual east side of MI screwing the west | 17:52 |
| ch0use | lol | 17:52 |
| Wolfger | rofl | 17:52 |
| ch0use | I was pleased to see crashplan has a linux client via java | 17:52 |
| ch0use | so backing up to teh cl0ud is pretty easy | 17:52 |
| ch0use | or backing up to another crashplan client is free | 17:52 |
| brousch | i like dropbox | 17:53 |
| rick_h_ | I like pie | 18:16 |
| gamerchick02 | i like cake | 18:16 |
| rick_h_ | wow, https://github.com/mitechie/pyflakes-pathogen/graphs/clones | 18:17 |
| snap-l | I <3 meetings where I wonder if I should be asking if I should cancel my netflix subscription | 18:21 |
| snap-l | rick_h_: That's awesome | 18:21 |
| brousch | what am i looking at? | 18:23 |
| rick_h_ | I created that repo just so I could pathogen install pyflakes into vim | 18:23 |
| rick_h_ | didn't realize 500+ other people a month were using it :) | 18:23 |
| rick_h_ | my boss thought he remembered seeing my repo in some git post and thought it was cool | 18:24 |
| rick_h_ | "you're famous" and I was like "psh, no one uses my github for much" | 18:24 |
| brousch | hah | 18:25 |
| brousch | i use it to look for vim config crap | 18:26 |
| gamerchick02 | rick_h_ is famous! whee! | 18:27 |
| brousch | this is true | 18:27 |
| snap-l | Just put away my entire civilization in City of Wonder. I wonder what will happen. ;) | 18:33 |
| brousch | you will find yourself with more free time to use on fruitful endeavors | 18:38 |
| rick_h_ | yea, how's the todo app coming along? Ready for another round of CHC hacking on it tomorrow? | 18:39 |
| snap-l | feh | 18:40 |
| snap-l | Haven't had a chance to look at it | 18:40 |
| snap-l | And losing the drive to even work on it | 18:41 |
| snap-l | going to be an interesting next few months | 18:41 |
| _stink_ | because Tracks is awesome? :) | 18:41 |
| rick_h_ | lol | 18:41 |
| rick_h_ | rvm ftw! preventing a whole new app from appearing. | 18:41 |
| rick_h_ | snap-l: that good eh? | 18:41 |
| snap-l | Because tracks works | 18:41 |
| brousch | ruby is awesome | 18:42 |
| snap-l | Meh, just a lot of undertainty because of budgets and shiti | 18:42 |
| snap-l | Maybe I'll give it some cycles, but right now I'm not feeling it | 18:45 |
| brousch | add it to your todo list | 18:46 |
| snap-l | It's there | 18:46 |
| rick_h_ | man I hate stupid code | 18:57 |
| rick_h_ | "yes please, might I copy/paste this 4 times...thank you!" | 18:57 |
| TeamXlink | Repitive code = a problem that seems difficult to fix completely and fully, you can minimize it but some things always seem to be to repitive. | 18:59 |
| * TeamXlink doesn't like reptitive code. | 19:00 | |
| brousch | rick_h_: isn't that what DRY means? Write it correctly once and then copy and paste it? | 19:00 |
| rick_h_ | this is cool forking and adding/fixing stuff to other code | 19:00 |
| rick_h_ | but man, it $#@$@ your head shifting code methods/dealing with crap you don't want to just rewrite since it's not yours | 19:01 |
| snap-l | Hey, devinheitmueller, would you be able to pick me up tomorrow for CHC? | 19:46 |
| devinheitmueller | snap-l: sure, np | 19:46 |
| snap-l | Thank you, good sir. | 19:46 |
| brousch | snap-l: the ubuntu calendar says tomorrow's irc meeting is at 6am | 19:52 |
| brousch | i am unlikely to attend that | 19:52 |
| snap-l | Yes, and I thought I fixed that | 19:52 |
| gamerchick02 | 6 am? wow, that's quite early unless you're planning on meeting BEFORE work. (I'm full of it today, don't mind me) | 19:53 |
| brousch | ok | 19:53 |
| snap-l | Says it's 14:00UTC on the site | 19:53 |
| gamerchick02 | must be the taco bell | 19:53 |
| snap-l | http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/ubuntu-michigan/81/detail/ | 19:53 |
| brousch | gcal will refresh it some day | 19:53 |
| rick_h_ | greg-g: specialized bikes? | 22:17 |
| rick_h_ | local places sells them and pushing a crosstrail from them | 22:17 |
| rick_h_ | better for dirt roads vs trek they're saying, slightly bigger tire, still much smaller than my mountain | 22:17 |
| rick_h_ | rode nice, but any bike < 15yrs old will feel nice to me | 22:18 |
| greg-g | and I think you just summed it all up nicely there | 22:38 |
| greg-g | style is your main concern | 22:38 |
| rick_h_ | greg-g: ok cool, so no auto lemon alert on the brand then? | 22:40 |
| rick_h_ | I've not looked at bikes in so long, never heard of specialized | 22:40 |
| greg-g | they're fine | 22:47 |
| rick_h_ | what's greg-g ride? | 23:11 |
| rick_h_ | you've got a full street bike right? | 23:12 |
| greg-g | rick_h_: I ride a Lemond Zurich (a decent road bike) | 23:15 |
| rick_h_ | cool | 23:16 |
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