[00:25] <knome> ScottL, what's the status on the ubuntu studio website update? we're just getting the new xubuntu website theme reviewed and after that, hopefully before oneiric release, getting that into production...
[00:26] <knome> ScottL, i was wondering if you need some help, or some more
[00:26] <astraljava> gnome rocks! err... wait, no, knome does.
[00:27] <knome> xfce ftw
[00:28] <astraljava> True.
[12:27] <falktx> hey there
[12:27] <falktx> ScottL: oin
[12:27] <falktx> ping
[12:30] <astraljava> oink oink to you too, Filipe. :)
[12:31] <knome> i thought i didn't join #stall
[12:32] <astraljava> I sneaked you in.
[12:33] <knome> i shoudl've guessed that
[12:33] <knome> bah
[12:33] <shnatsel> falktx: pong
[12:35] <falktx> shnatsel: someone mailed me about the new gimpstudio packages
[12:35] <falktx> basically he wants to copy them but doesn't want to fix it
[12:35] <shnatsel> falktx: fwd?
[12:35] <falktx> shnatsel: what's your mail?
[12:35] <shnatsel> falktx: shnatsel@gmail.com
[12:35] <astraljava> Hi shnatsel, falktx, did you manage to come to conclusion about the app selection for the seeds? I could update them tonight.
[12:36] <falktx> shnatsel: err, this is a logged channel...
[12:36] <shnatsel> falktx: it's OK
[12:36] <shnatsel> falktx: my mail shows up in so many places
[12:36] <shnatsel> falktx: and it's googlable anyway
[12:37] <falktx> gmail is good enough to handle spam
[12:37] <astraljava> And imagine that, now you two can be googled by one search?
[12:37] <astraljava> ? == !, of course. :)
[12:37] <falktx> astraljava: my boss found my mail by googling my nickname
[12:38] <falktx> astraljava: that's how we first talked
[12:38] <shnatsel> astraljava: hi, I've just updated some workflows and proposed even less packages to include/replace in the mailing list, I have no idea who's responsible for accepting/rejecting those changes
[12:40] <astraljava> shnatsel: The team collectively, but I have taken that task on my responsibility. Anyone in the -dev team can push, though. Which reminds me, have you applied already?
[12:40] <shnatsel> falktx: that's rly weird - I have tested that use case thoroughly and even shipped the packages in my own distro, it worked fine with no users
[12:40] <shnatsel> astraljava: nope, should I?
[12:42] <falktx3> astraljava: did pulseaudio got cutoff? if not pulseaudio-module-jack should be there
[12:42] <astraljava> shnatsel: I dunno, do you wanna? :)
[12:43] <shnatsel> astraljava: no idea tbh
[12:43] <astraljava> falktx3: I think the discussion went to the direction where we agreed not to try to drop it at this point. It's a pain to keep away, really, at the moment.
[12:43] <astraljava> Luke said he's willing to make changes for the coming cycle, though, if enough derivates don't want to use it.
[12:43] <falktx3> astraljava: so *-jack there is there, right?
[12:44] <astraljava> falktx3: Let me check.
[12:44]  * falktx3 plans to do a unity-2d fork
[12:45] <astraljava> Yep, it's there.
[12:46] <falktx3> nice
[12:48] <falktx3> heh, this is kinda misinformation
[12:48] <astraljava> shnatsel: Well, thanks for your efforts on the app selection, anyway! I'll read through that thread tonight, and incorporate the changes to the seeds unless there's some controversy in the selection.
[12:48] <falktx3> "PulseAudio with jack detection"
[12:48] <astraljava> Hehe, where'd you find that?
[12:48] <falktx3> ^ jack detection, has in jack hw thing that phones have, not jack audio system
[12:48] <falktx3> astraljava: ^
[12:49] <falktx3> http://voices.canonical.com/david.henningsson/2011/09/06/pulseaudio-with-jack-detection/
[12:49] <astraljava> Oh the module?!
[12:51] <astraljava> Oh, you're talking about that blog. I'll read it later, thanks.
[12:51] <shnatsel> 'jackd modules for PulseAudio sound server' = pulseaudio-module-jack
[12:54] <astraljava> falktx3: Okay, the statement intrigued me. Why do you say it's misinformation?
[12:55] <falktx3> jack hw != jack audio
[12:55] <astraljava> Hmm... yes, but he's the Canonical audio guy. I don't think he's talking about JACK, but jack, as in what you already mentioned.
[12:56] <falktx3> yep
[12:56] <astraljava> Then again, I might not understand it correctly.
[12:56] <astraljava> I'm a little tired, and going to have a nap now. See ya later this evening.
[12:57] <falktx3> time for work
[20:10] <scott-work> knome: sorry for not responding sooner, yes we need help
[20:10] <knome> no problemos! :)
[20:10] <knome> do you need an artist and/or a developer?
[20:10] <scott-work> probably a little of both
[20:10] <scott-work> let me find a link....
[20:10] <knome> sure
[20:11] <scott-work> this is the new website...http://www.myhaiku.org/
[20:11] <scott-work> it lacks any real content but also only has a few pages
[20:11] <scott-work> i've never updated our current website so i'm unsure if i can even add pages using the canonical hosting
[20:12] <scott-work> i'm also unfamiliar with how to change the website design through launchpad
[20:12] <scott-work> note: if you click the words "audio", "video", or "graphic" the view changes
[20:26] <knome> scott-work, okay...
[20:27] <knome> that's quite a flashy effect
[20:27] <knome> the site is not too bad
[20:27] <knome> i suppose that you'd just need some of the canonical IS guys set up the new theme
[20:28] <knome> that's drupal? :(
[20:28] <knome> anyway, what we've done with the new xubuntu site is here: http://xubuntu.princessleia.com/
[20:32] <scott-work> knome: we felt that for lengevity we should stick with canonical hosting, and yes, that is drupal
[20:32] <knome> yup, we're on canonical hosting too, but we're switching to wordpress with the new site
[20:35] <knome> what is exactly what you need help with?
[21:36] <scott-work> sorry, got busy at work
[21:36] <scott-work> knome: any artistic input would be great
[21:37] <scott-work> knome: but also help understanding how the process works for hosting some of the website in launchpad and then getting it working on the hosting would be helpful too
[21:38] <scott-work> we considered moving to wordpress as well, but again felt that since there are very few people involved that we should stay with drupal for the long term
[21:38] <knome> i can give artistic input, but i know quite little about the process for canonical hosted stuff
[21:38] <knome> wordpress is actually easier in the long run
[21:39] <knome> so you prefer feedback by email or in irc?
[21:39] <scott-work> which ever is the better medium for you knome 
[21:40] <scott-work> i will be leaving shortly but my laptop (ScottL) is almost always on though
[21:40] <knome> okay
[21:40] <knome> i could send an email for starters, then we can continue discussion in irc
[21:41] <knome> paste your address to PM (or chan if you don't mind) and i'll get back to you asap
[21:42] <scott-work> knome: scottalavender@gmail.com
[21:43] <knome> ta
[21:43] <scott-work> knome:  this is asking a lot, but if you were interested in helping us to migrate to wordpress then we would certainly do so
[21:43] <knome> i'd love to help you on that
[21:43] <scott-work> we just chose to stay with drupal because of those involved and their limited ability and availability
[21:43] <knome> yeah, i understand
[21:43] <scott-work> knome: that would be awesome
[21:56] <scott-work> leaving work :)
[21:56] <knome> okay, see you later
[23:22] <ScottL> knome, do you think it is possible to migrate the http://www.myhaiku.org/ site to wordpress?
[23:23] <ScottL> or similar?  i ask because many people have already commented on how much they like this site
[23:25] <falktx_> ScottL: hey
[23:26] <falktx_> ScottL: I'm willing to work on that site
[23:26] <falktx_> I said it before
[23:26] <falktx_> ScottL: any way to get the entire sources of it?
[23:26] <falktx_> maybe you have jorge's mail?
[23:29] <ScottL> falktx_, http://imagebin.org/171330
[23:29] <ScottL> astraljava, also
[23:29] <ScottL> from the QA image that we tested and then i made the menu use the studio menu and changed the theme to the ubuntu studio theme
[23:30] <falktx_> ScottL: looking good
[23:30] <falktx_> don't like the decoration though
[23:30] <ScottL> it's certainly better
[23:30] <falktx_> desktop text is not very visible
[23:30] <ScottL> i'm not a theming genius i'm hoping others are able to figure this out ;)
[23:31] <falktx_> ScottL: there are lots of deco themes in xfce, we just need to pick a better one
[23:31] <ScottL> falktx_, i do have his email and the source for the myhaiku site
[23:31] <falktx_> ScottL: oh, great
[23:31] <falktx_> ScottL: what exactly do you think the website needs?
[23:31] <falktx_> besides working correctly
[23:32] <ScottL> hold on, cooking, brb in 2 mins
[23:34] <falktx_> btw, ScottL, I'm working on this now - http://distrho.sourceforge.net/gallery.html
[23:34] <falktx_> oops
[23:34] <falktx_> correct link - http://distrho.sourceforge.net/
[23:35] <ScottL> cooking for the kids
[23:35] <ScottL> back now
[23:36] <ScottL> that looks cool falktx_ 
[23:36] <ScottL> tell you what, you are part of the team and have access to the code
[23:36] <ScottL> would you work with knome to make this happen if write up a decent spec and blueprint?
[23:37] <ScottL> i'm not particular to whether it is in wordpress or drupal or what particular graphics are used
[23:38] <ScottL> but i think i can (or already have) develop a good framework description of what it should accomplish and it's goals
[23:38] <falktx_> who's knome
[23:38] <falktx_> ?
[23:38] <falktx_> knome: oh, hey there
[23:40] <falktx_> ScottL: so, knome already offered to work no the site, is that right?
[23:40] <falktx_> s/no/on
[23:41] <ScottL> yes he did
[23:43] <falktx_> ScottL: what can he do?
[23:43] <falktx_> I never noticed him around here...
[23:44] <ScottL> sorry, getting kids their dinner
[23:44] <ScottL> falktx_, he said he did this for xubuntu:  http://xubuntu.princessleia.com/
[23:44] <ScottL> and they are working on migrating it to the ubuntu website
[23:44] <falktx_> wow, no match for my skills!
[23:44] <falktx_> I mean, he's way better than me
[23:45] <ScottL> i don't know about that, that sourceforge site looked pretty darn good to me :)
[23:45] <falktx_> ScottL: it's a html5 template I downloaded
[23:45] <falktx_> not done by me
[23:45] <falktx_> "Website template designed by TemplateMonster.com"
[23:47] <ScottL> ah, it look really good
[23:47] <ScottL> did you ever see the ones i mocked up with inkscape?  the first one was really scary looking
[23:50] <falktx_> no, please give me a link
[23:50] <falktx_> how scary is it?
[23:51] <ScottL> hahaha, not happening my friend :P
[23:51] <ScottL> it also got erased when my server got screwed up anyways
[23:52] <ScottL> hosting had a problem with their raid which got corrupted and synced garbage onto my server