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Unit193Naaa... This doesn't look like anything I've seen before... http://www.backbox.org/category/image-galleries/backbox-linux-207:29
madnickUnit193: haha07:37
Unit193Not that I think it's a *bad* thing, just that it's almost the same GUI and we already have BackTrack :p07:46
Unit193!testing-#xubuntu | Dead Link09:42
ubottuDead Link: For information on how to help test the next release of Xubuntu and for the results matrix, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Xubuntu/Current09:42
astraljavao/11:18
* knome tickles astraljava 11:18
astraljavaI should be able to test again, today.11:18
* astraljava dropkicks knome into mouth11:18
astraljavaSorry, my feet twitch when I get tickled11:18
knome:O11:19
astraljavain the*11:19
astraljavaDude, do you ever sleep?11:19
astraljavaOh, I think we had this discussion already.11:19
Unit193knome? I'm sure he doesn't...11:21
knomeme? sleep? why?11:21
astraljavaOh yes. Silly me.11:21
astraljava*rolls eyes*11:22
Unit193That's the way to go... It's almost 7:30 and I haven't had sleep yet11:24
* knome slept 5h last night11:34
astraljavaYeah me too, but you were still getting more tea when I bailed at 4 am.11:35
knomeactually, i never went for the tea :D11:36
astraljavaYou bastid.11:39
knomehehe11:41
knomeUnit193, astraljava: what's the correct page to point to if somebody wants to test oneiric?11:59
Unit193https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Testing12:01
Unit193Or better yet https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Testing/TestingInfo12:02
astraljavaI don't think I've any better, I just actually use the spreadsheet anymore.12:02
Unit193Oh yeah... jussi asked knome :P12:03
astraljavaHe did? What for?12:04
astraljavaHe's got no business coming in here.12:04
knome@ #ubuntu-ops12:04
meetingologyknome: Error: "#ubuntu-ops" is not a valid command.12:04
knomemeetingology, shut up12:04
meetingologyknome: Error: "shut" is not a valid command.12:04
astraljavaHihihi.12:04
knomeUnit193, the testinginfo has something about natty images...12:05
knomeUnit193, you have the spreadsheet?12:05
Unit193They both do12:06
knomei think the best thing was to link to Xubuntu/Testing, and make sure that page is current12:07
Unit193This work? https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AucFSttyWCevdGZSenZqRS04eE9LYnBwSWtUM0NJRXc&authkey=CP282scF&hl=en_US12:07
knomeUnit193, would you like to review the Xubuntu/Testing page ?12:11
Unit193knome: I would be willing to give it a shot...12:12
knomegreat!12:12
Unit193!testing-#xubuntu12:12
ubottuFor information on how to help test the next release of Xubuntu, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Testing12:12
knomeyou do have a wiki account, right?12:12
Unit193Yeah, but I'm still not the best and would kind of like approval before changes, but not needed12:13
knomei can help you, if you're willing to work on the wiki apge12:14
knome*page12:14
knomei know next to nothing about testing, so i'm a bad person to work on the content itself12:14
Unit193Content isn't my stong point, but I should know what's wrong... Anyway, a little sleep in before my head explodes12:17
knomehehe12:18
knomesleep tight12:18
jarnosI am little bit worried, if I have time to test X bug (excessive Xorg activity with nouveau driver) in time. I didn't report it against xorg in Natty, since it was already releaset.12:35
jarnosreleased^12:36
charlie-tcaGood morning14:27
charlie-tcaI apologize for the meeting yesterday. I really needed some time away15:37
mr_pouitapparently almost everyone had the same idea, so I guess it's fine ;-)15:47
micahgcharlie-tca: no problem, you deserve it :)16:08
charlie-tcaThanks to both of you16:24
knomesomehow i keep missing the meetings, not because i want to take a break, but i just don't remember16:25
mr_pouitit's easy: you just have to remember it's on sundays and mondays, at 19 and 22 utc :p16:41
pleia2I was traveling16:41
knomewhy on two consecutive days?16:41
knomepleia2, thanks for the mail16:41
pleia2sure thing16:42
knomepleia2, also, would you like to apply for the wpml freebie? i think you are better to answer about things relating to canonical/xubuntu relations than i am16:42
mr_pouitknome: it's not consecutive, it changes per week16:42
micahgmr_pouit: that should be sun and mon at 22 and 19 :)16:42
knomehah16:42
pleia2knome: sure, adding to my todo list now16:42
knomeso it's not to remember ONLY that it's sun+mon 19+2216:42
knomepleia2, thanks.16:42
mr_pouitmicahg: oh, so 22utc is only on sun?16:43
mr_pouitinteresting ;D16:43
micahgmr_pouit: correct16:43
mr_pouitI never remember, so I try to be there at 19 and 22utc ;>16:43
charlie-tcaYou could just read the topic here once a week. I try and keep it there16:44
knomei never remember, that's why i'm always not here16:44
knomecharlie-tca, when you're using irssi, you don't really read the topic16:44
mr_pouithuhu16:44
charlie-tcaIt's posted on the wiki, too16:44
knomewell i don't read the wiki either :)16:44
micahgcharlie-tca: BTW, can I get ops here, I wouldn't have been able to op meetingology 16:44
charlie-tcaIt is also in the minutes sent to the ML16:45
knomeyeah. that's probably the only message i get about it, but somehow i still can't remember it16:45
charlie-tcaMeetingology only works if you are an op?16:45
meetingologycharlie-tca: Error: "only" is not a valid command.16:45
micahgcharlie-tca: no, Unit193 said it needed op to change topic16:45
charlie-tcaI will figure out how to make you an op, then, micahg 16:45
knomeam i correct that the meeting minutes have not been posted right after the meeting lately?16:45
micahgthat could be wrong too, idk, haven't asked alanbell yet16:46
charlie-tcaOh, yeah, that's right16:46
charlie-tcaknome: correct16:46
micahgcharlie-tca: so, not critical, but a nice plus16:46
charlie-tcaThey get posted when the meeting chair remembers to post them16:46
knomeyeah, that's probably one of the reasons i've been missing the meetings too. when the minutes from the previous meeting are posted near to the next meeting, there's less time to act :)16:47
charlie-tcaExcuses16:47
pleia2charlie-tca: would be something like: /msg chanserv flags #xubuntu-devel micahg +votiA16:48
charlie-tcaThanks16:48
charlie-tcaset, micahg 16:49
knomewhether you think they are excuses or not, that's what's been happening16:49
charlie-tcamicahg: you should now be an op here16:49
micahgcharlie-tca: cool, thanks!16:50
charlie-tcayw16:50
=== ChanServ changed the topic of #xubuntu-devel to: Xubuntu Development | Oneiric Ocelot Feature Freeze in effect | #xubuntu for support | Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneiricReleaseSchedule | Wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu | Xubuntu Community meeting 2011-09-11 at 22:00 UTC | Oneiric Ocelot images at http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/
charlie-tcalunch time here17:05
charlie-tcabbiab17:05
charlie-tcaknome: next meeting is 2011-09-11 at 22:00 UTC. That will be Sunday17:06
knomecharlie-tca, thanks :)17:07
charlie-tca:)17:07
charlie-tcamr_pouit: Thank you very much. got bug 841817 fixed19:03
ubottuLaunchpad bug 841817 in system-config-printer (Ubuntu) "system-config-printer missing from menus" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/84181719:03
Unit193knome: Do you ever talk to rafaellaguna? I know he isn't on IRC much though19:57
knomeUnit193, no. who is he?20:08
Unit193Oh sorry, someone had said something about him talking to one of the arkwork here. Head of artwork on Lubuntu :P20:10
knomea-ha20:10
knomei suppose ochosi has been in contact with him then20:10
Unit193Although he's more of only than head :P20:11
Unit193(Didn't see you in -ot)20:11
mr_pouitgrmbl21:36
charlie-tcawhy?21:36
mr_pouitsome packages now fail to build :<21:37
charlie-tcaAre they really failing or is the server giving fits again?21:37
charlie-tcaEvery spin for beta1 had to be re-spun to work21:37
mr_pouitno no, they are "normal" build failures21:45
charlie-tcacrap21:45
charlie-tcaI had to hope, though21:45
mr_pouitmicahg: there has been some changes in gdk-pixbuf .pc file, so several packages will ftbfs ;>21:45
micahgmr_pouit: thanks, can later this week21:46
micahg*take a look21:46
mr_pouithttp://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2011-August/msg00236.html21:46
charlie-tcahm, beta2 in about two weeks, a11y completely broken and now this?21:47
micahgmr_pouit: 'tis ok, I think corsac has been fixing them in Debian21:47
mr_pouitthe fixes are part of the latest debian uploads from Corsac (apparently, only xfce4-session, libxfcegui4, tumbler and exo are affected)21:47
mr_pouityeah21:47
micahgI was planning on syncing those when I had time21:47
mr_pouitok, I'll try to do the  merges then (xfce4-session + tumbler)21:48
micahgmr_pouit: ok, thanks, I probably won't have much time until all the diginotar stuff is done21:49
mr_pouiteh, understandable ;(21:51
mr_pouit(diginotargate :p)21:51
micahgyep21:53
knomediginotar? :P22:10
micahgknome: dutch CA that had a breach22:11
micahgCA=Certificate Authority22:12
knomea-ha22:12
micahgmr_pouit: BTW, is xubuntu developers supposed to be the LP ML or the Ubuntu one?22:15
mr_pouitI usually put the ubuntu one, because I don't know if someone reads the lp one...22:15
* micahg subscribed to the LP one once he realized it existed22:16
mr_pouityou might be the only subscriber right now :D22:17
knomevery exclusive list then22:17
micahgheh, knome wrote to it22:17
mr_pouitoh, I'm already subscribed actually :s22:17
knomelol22:17
knomethen it's crap if mr_pouit's subscribed too22:18
knome:(22:18
knomesorry22:18
mr_pouitahah22:18
mr_pouit(that's why I receive my own commit mails twice :])22:18
knomeuhh22:18
knomeso if you commit when drunk, you'll sure to remember that the next morning?22:19
knomei like that policy22:20
mr_pouitI usually try to stay very far away from my keyboard ;>22:20
knomedon't commit when drunk, unless somebody reminds you the next day twice22:20
knomethe shimmer policy is not to blame the drunkard if he's the one uploading the packages/committing22:21
knomethat's a fine policy too22:21
knomeoff for today22:26
knomesee you later22:26
micahgmr_pouit: I'll also file the requisite FFes for the multiarch syncs22:33
mr_pouitor we can cherry pick the patch only if you prefer22:37
mr_pouitfor exo)22:37
mr_pouit(22:37
micahgmr_pouit: nah, I'd prefer it multiarched22:39
mr_pouitbut I guess slangasek wouldn't refuse  moar multiarch ;-)22:39
mr_pouithuhu22:39
micahgexactly :)22:39
charlie-tcapleia2: thanks for keeping me in the loop on the website22:40
pleia2sure thing22:42
pleia2we'll get there... maybe by october :)22:42
pleia2hehe22:42
mr_pouitoookay, xfce4-session & exo built fine, time to sleep22:44
mr_pouitsee you later22:44
charlie-tcaThanks, mr_pouit 22:44
charlie-tcapleia2: yeah, all good things just take time22:44
charlie-tcaHello, GridCube 23:44
charlie-tcaYou made it tonight23:44
Unit193What's tonight? And I fixed VBox!23:44
charlie-tcaum, here it is Tuesday evening23:44
GridCubehello charlie-tca :) how are you today?23:45
charlie-tcaYeah! What was wrong with VBox?23:45
charlie-tcaGridCube: doing fine, sir. Yourself?23:45
GridCubeim home because my allergies knocked me down so i didnt went to classes, damn spring23:45
charlie-tcaoh-oh23:45
charlie-tcaSeems to be a problem for a lot of people23:45
GridCubeyep23:46
GridCubeso there where no meeting yesterday 23:46
Unit193Had to uninstall and reinstall :P23:46
charlie-tcaYeah, GridCube. I screwed off yesterday23:47
GridCube:P okay23:47
charlie-tcaUnit193: I have to do that every time a new kernel comes out23:48
charlie-tcawhich, in oneiric, is often23:48
Unit193Well, never crashed the entire computer before and I didn't have to do that before, but oh well, now it's fixed :D23:48
charlie-tcaOh, you got a lot of fun coming then... :)23:49
Unit193I don't run Oneiric as main ;)23:51
GridCubethats the main reason why i never do updates unless im sure i have time to fix stuff after23:51
Unit193Nothing was updated, it just stopped working23:51
Unit193Update of VBox/reinstall fixed it23:52
GridCube>nothing was updated >update of vbox...23:52
Unit193Vbox working fine, VBox broken, uninstall, install newer version, fixed23:53
Unit193See? Updates didn't break it23:53
GridCube:P23:53
GridCubeoh23:53
GridCubebut you did updated your kernel then?23:53
Unit193Didn't have anything to update on that23:54
GridCubeoh23:55
GridCubewell nevermind then23:55
charlie-tcaUnit193: maybe Oracle updated something, and screwed up VBox for you, then23:58
Unit193charlie-tca: I don't see how as the break wasn't after an update there wasn't any type of updates from the of working to time of break23:59
charlie-tcaI don't know then, how it could break just sitting there23:59

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