[07:29] <Unit193> Naaa... This doesn't look like anything I've seen before... http://www.backbox.org/category/image-galleries/backbox-linux-2
[07:37] <madnick> Unit193: haha
[07:46] <Unit193> Not that I think it's a *bad* thing, just that it's almost the same GUI and we already have BackTrack :p
[09:42] <Unit193> !testing-#xubuntu | Dead Link
[11:18] <astraljava> o/
[11:18]  * knome tickles astraljava 
[11:18] <astraljava> I should be able to test again, today.
[11:18]  * astraljava dropkicks knome into mouth
[11:18] <astraljava> Sorry, my feet twitch when I get tickled
[11:19] <knome> :O
[11:19] <astraljava> in the*
[11:19] <astraljava> Dude, do you ever sleep?
[11:19] <astraljava> Oh, I think we had this discussion already.
[11:21] <Unit193> knome? I'm sure he doesn't...
[11:21] <knome> me? sleep? why?
[11:21] <astraljava> Oh yes. Silly me.
[11:22] <astraljava> *rolls eyes*
[11:24] <Unit193> That's the way to go... It's almost 7:30 and I haven't had sleep yet
[11:34]  * knome slept 5h last night
[11:35] <astraljava> Yeah me too, but you were still getting more tea when I bailed at 4 am.
[11:36] <knome> actually, i never went for the tea :D
[11:39] <astraljava> You bastid.
[11:41] <knome> hehe
[11:59] <knome> Unit193, astraljava: what's the correct page to point to if somebody wants to test oneiric?
[12:01] <Unit193> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Testing
[12:02] <Unit193> Or better yet https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Testing/TestingInfo
[12:02] <astraljava> I don't think I've any better, I just actually use the spreadsheet anymore.
[12:03] <Unit193> Oh yeah... jussi asked knome :P
[12:04] <astraljava> He did? What for?
[12:04] <astraljava> He's got no business coming in here.
[12:04] <knome> @ #ubuntu-ops
[12:04] <meetingology> knome: Error: "#ubuntu-ops" is not a valid command.
[12:04] <knome> meetingology, shut up
[12:04] <meetingology> knome: Error: "shut" is not a valid command.
[12:04] <astraljava> Hihihi.
[12:05] <knome> Unit193, the testinginfo has something about natty images...
[12:05] <knome> Unit193, you have the spreadsheet?
[12:06] <Unit193> They both do
[12:07] <knome> i think the best thing was to link to Xubuntu/Testing, and make sure that page is current
[12:07] <Unit193> This work? https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AucFSttyWCevdGZSenZqRS04eE9LYnBwSWtUM0NJRXc&authkey=CP282scF&hl=en_US
[12:11] <knome> Unit193, would you like to review the Xubuntu/Testing page ?
[12:12] <Unit193> knome: I would be willing to give it a shot...
[12:12] <knome> great!
[12:12] <Unit193> !testing-#xubuntu
[12:12] <knome> you do have a wiki account, right?
[12:13] <Unit193> Yeah, but I'm still not the best and would kind of like approval before changes, but not needed
[12:14] <knome> i can help you, if you're willing to work on the wiki apge
[12:14] <knome> *page
[12:14] <knome> i know next to nothing about testing, so i'm a bad person to work on the content itself
[12:17] <Unit193> Content isn't my stong point, but I should know what's wrong... Anyway, a little sleep in before my head explodes
[12:18] <knome> hehe
[12:18] <knome> sleep tight
[12:35] <jarnos> I am little bit worried, if I have time to test X bug (excessive Xorg activity with nouveau driver) in time. I didn't report it against xorg in Natty, since it was already releaset.
[12:36] <jarnos> released^
[14:27] <charlie-tca> Good morning
[15:37] <charlie-tca> I apologize for the meeting yesterday. I really needed some time away
[15:47] <mr_pouit> apparently almost everyone had the same idea, so I guess it's fine ;-)
[16:08] <micahg> charlie-tca: no problem, you deserve it :)
[16:24] <charlie-tca> Thanks to both of you
[16:25] <knome> somehow i keep missing the meetings, not because i want to take a break, but i just don't remember
[16:41] <mr_pouit> it's easy: you just have to remember it's on sundays and mondays, at 19 and 22 utc :p
[16:41] <pleia2> I was traveling
[16:41] <knome> why on two consecutive days?
[16:41] <knome> pleia2, thanks for the mail
[16:42] <pleia2> sure thing
[16:42] <knome> pleia2, also, would you like to apply for the wpml freebie? i think you are better to answer about things relating to canonical/xubuntu relations than i am
[16:42] <mr_pouit> knome: it's not consecutive, it changes per week
[16:42] <micahg> mr_pouit: that should be sun and mon at 22 and 19 :)
[16:42] <knome> hah
[16:42] <pleia2> knome: sure, adding to my todo list now
[16:42] <knome> so it's not to remember ONLY that it's sun+mon 19+22
[16:42] <knome> pleia2, thanks.
[16:43] <mr_pouit> micahg: oh, so 22utc is only on sun?
[16:43] <mr_pouit> interesting ;D
[16:43] <micahg> mr_pouit: correct
[16:43] <mr_pouit> I never remember, so I try to be there at 19 and 22utc ;>
[16:44] <charlie-tca> You could just read the topic here once a week. I try and keep it there
[16:44] <knome> i never remember, that's why i'm always not here
[16:44] <knome> charlie-tca, when you're using irssi, you don't really read the topic
[16:44] <mr_pouit> huhu
[16:44] <charlie-tca> It's posted on the wiki, too
[16:44] <knome> well i don't read the wiki either :)
[16:44] <micahg> charlie-tca: BTW, can I get ops here, I wouldn't have been able to op meetingology 
[16:45] <charlie-tca> It is also in the minutes sent to the ML
[16:45] <knome> yeah. that's probably the only message i get about it, but somehow i still can't remember it
[16:45] <charlie-tca> Meetingology only works if you are an op?
[16:45] <meetingology> charlie-tca: Error: "only" is not a valid command.
[16:45] <micahg> charlie-tca: no, Unit193 said it needed op to change topic
[16:45] <charlie-tca> I will figure out how to make you an op, then, micahg 
[16:45] <knome> am i correct that the meeting minutes have not been posted right after the meeting lately?
[16:46] <micahg> that could be wrong too, idk, haven't asked alanbell yet
[16:46] <charlie-tca> Oh, yeah, that's right
[16:46] <charlie-tca> knome: correct
[16:46] <micahg> charlie-tca: so, not critical, but a nice plus
[16:46] <charlie-tca> They get posted when the meeting chair remembers to post them
[16:47] <knome> yeah, that's probably one of the reasons i've been missing the meetings too. when the minutes from the previous meeting are posted near to the next meeting, there's less time to act :)
[16:47] <charlie-tca> Excuses
[16:48] <pleia2> charlie-tca: would be something like: /msg chanserv flags #xubuntu-devel micahg +votiA
[16:48] <charlie-tca> Thanks
[16:49] <charlie-tca> set, micahg 
[16:49] <knome> whether you think they are excuses or not, that's what's been happening
[16:49] <charlie-tca> micahg: you should now be an op here
[16:50] <micahg> charlie-tca: cool, thanks!
[16:50] <charlie-tca> yw
[17:05] <charlie-tca> lunch time here
[17:05] <charlie-tca> bbiab
[17:06] <charlie-tca> knome: next meeting is 2011-09-11 at 22:00 UTC. That will be Sunday
[17:07] <knome> charlie-tca, thanks :)
[17:07] <charlie-tca> :)
[19:03] <charlie-tca> mr_pouit: Thank you very much. got bug 841817 fixed
[19:57] <Unit193> knome: Do you ever talk to rafaellaguna? I know he isn't on IRC much though
[20:08] <knome> Unit193, no. who is he?
[20:10] <Unit193> Oh sorry, someone had said something about him talking to one of the arkwork here. Head of artwork on Lubuntu :P
[20:10] <knome> a-ha
[20:10] <knome> i suppose ochosi has been in contact with him then
[20:11] <Unit193> Although he's more of only than head :P
[20:11] <Unit193> (Didn't see you in -ot)
[21:36] <mr_pouit> grmbl
[21:36] <charlie-tca> why?
[21:37] <mr_pouit> some packages now fail to build :<
[21:37] <charlie-tca> Are they really failing or is the server giving fits again?
[21:37] <charlie-tca> Every spin for beta1 had to be re-spun to work
[21:45] <mr_pouit> no no, they are "normal" build failures
[21:45] <charlie-tca> crap
[21:45] <charlie-tca> I had to hope, though
[21:45] <mr_pouit> micahg: there has been some changes in gdk-pixbuf .pc file, so several packages will ftbfs ;>
[21:46] <micahg> mr_pouit: thanks, can later this week
[21:46] <micahg> *take a look
[21:46] <mr_pouit> http://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2011-August/msg00236.html
[21:47] <charlie-tca> hm, beta2 in about two weeks, a11y completely broken and now this?
[21:47] <micahg> mr_pouit: 'tis ok, I think corsac has been fixing them in Debian
[21:47] <mr_pouit> the fixes are part of the latest debian uploads from Corsac (apparently, only xfce4-session, libxfcegui4, tumbler and exo are affected)
[21:47] <mr_pouit> yeah
[21:47] <micahg> I was planning on syncing those when I had time
[21:48] <mr_pouit> ok, I'll try to do the  merges then (xfce4-session + tumbler)
[21:49] <micahg> mr_pouit: ok, thanks, I probably won't have much time until all the diginotar stuff is done
[21:51] <mr_pouit> eh, understandable ;(
[21:51] <mr_pouit> (diginotargate :p)
[21:53] <micahg> yep
[22:10] <knome> diginotar? :P
[22:11] <micahg> knome: dutch CA that had a breach
[22:12] <micahg> CA=Certificate Authority
[22:12] <knome> a-ha
[22:15] <micahg> mr_pouit: BTW, is xubuntu developers supposed to be the LP ML or the Ubuntu one?
[22:15] <mr_pouit> I usually put the ubuntu one, because I don't know if someone reads the lp one...
[22:16]  * micahg subscribed to the LP one once he realized it existed
[22:17] <mr_pouit> you might be the only subscriber right now :D
[22:17] <knome> very exclusive list then
[22:17] <micahg> heh, knome wrote to it
[22:17] <mr_pouit> oh, I'm already subscribed actually :s
[22:17] <knome> lol
[22:18] <knome> then it's crap if mr_pouit's subscribed too
[22:18] <knome> :(
[22:18] <knome> sorry
[22:18] <mr_pouit> ahah
[22:18] <mr_pouit> (that's why I receive my own commit mails twice :])
[22:18] <knome> uhh
[22:19] <knome> so if you commit when drunk, you'll sure to remember that the next morning?
[22:20] <knome> i like that policy
[22:20] <mr_pouit> I usually try to stay very far away from my keyboard ;>
[22:20] <knome> don't commit when drunk, unless somebody reminds you the next day twice
[22:21] <knome> the shimmer policy is not to blame the drunkard if he's the one uploading the packages/committing
[22:21] <knome> that's a fine policy too
[22:26] <knome> off for today
[22:26] <knome> see you later
[22:33] <micahg> mr_pouit: I'll also file the requisite FFes for the multiarch syncs
[22:37] <mr_pouit> or we can cherry pick the patch only if you prefer
[22:37] <mr_pouit> for exo)
[22:37] <mr_pouit> (
[22:39] <micahg> mr_pouit: nah, I'd prefer it multiarched
[22:39] <mr_pouit> but I guess slangasek wouldn't refuse  moar multiarch ;-)
[22:39] <mr_pouit> huhu
[22:39] <micahg> exactly :)
[22:40] <charlie-tca> pleia2: thanks for keeping me in the loop on the website
[22:42] <pleia2> sure thing
[22:42] <pleia2> we'll get there... maybe by october :)
[22:42] <pleia2> hehe
[22:44] <mr_pouit> oookay, xfce4-session & exo built fine, time to sleep
[22:44] <mr_pouit> see you later
[22:44] <charlie-tca> Thanks, mr_pouit 
[22:44] <charlie-tca> pleia2: yeah, all good things just take time
[23:44] <charlie-tca> Hello, GridCube 
[23:44] <charlie-tca> You made it tonight
[23:44] <Unit193> What's tonight? And I fixed VBox!
[23:44] <charlie-tca> um, here it is Tuesday evening
[23:45] <GridCube> hello charlie-tca :) how are you today?
[23:45] <charlie-tca> Yeah! What was wrong with VBox?
[23:45] <charlie-tca> GridCube: doing fine, sir. Yourself?
[23:45] <GridCube> im home because my allergies knocked me down so i didnt went to classes, damn spring
[23:45] <charlie-tca> oh-oh
[23:45] <charlie-tca> Seems to be a problem for a lot of people
[23:46] <GridCube> yep
[23:46] <GridCube> so there where no meeting yesterday 
[23:46] <Unit193> Had to uninstall and reinstall :P
[23:47] <charlie-tca> Yeah, GridCube. I screwed off yesterday
[23:47] <GridCube> :P okay
[23:48] <charlie-tca> Unit193: I have to do that every time a new kernel comes out
[23:48] <charlie-tca> which, in oneiric, is often
[23:48] <Unit193> Well, never crashed the entire computer before and I didn't have to do that before, but oh well, now it's fixed :D
[23:49] <charlie-tca> Oh, you got a lot of fun coming then... :)
[23:51] <Unit193> I don't run Oneiric as main ;)
[23:51] <GridCube> thats the main reason why i never do updates unless im sure i have time to fix stuff after
[23:51] <Unit193> Nothing was updated, it just stopped working
[23:52] <Unit193> Update of VBox/reinstall fixed it
[23:52] <GridCube> >nothing was updated >update of vbox...
[23:53] <Unit193> Vbox working fine, VBox broken, uninstall, install newer version, fixed
[23:53] <Unit193> See? Updates didn't break it
[23:53] <GridCube> :P
[23:53] <GridCube> oh
[23:53] <GridCube> but you did updated your kernel then?
[23:54] <Unit193> Didn't have anything to update on that
[23:55] <GridCube> oh
[23:55] <GridCube> well nevermind then
[23:58] <charlie-tca> Unit193: maybe Oracle updated something, and screwed up VBox for you, then
[23:59] <Unit193> charlie-tca: I don't see how as the break wasn't after an update there wasn't any type of updates from the of working to time of break
[23:59] <charlie-tca> I don't know then, how it could break just sitting there