[00:28] see ya dudes, I'm off to bed. Catch you later tonight [01:08] Meh. He's gone. === jjesse_ is now known as jjesse === mgraesslin_ is now known as mgraesslin [06:14] ubuntu-desktop/ppa qt4-x11 packages need testing for oneiric. [07:07] jussi, ping [07:10] DarkwingDuck: yessir? [07:10] jussi, care for a PM? [07:11] DarkwingDuck: can do [08:52] morning [08:58] bonjour [09:02] :) [09:28] I cannot download the amd64 deb file, is this just me? http://packages.ubuntu.com/oneiric/libboost-iostreams1.46.1 [09:39] JabberwockyA19: http://se.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/b/boost1.46/libboost-iostreams1.46.1_1.46.1-5ubuntu2_amd64.deb works here [09:47] thanks Riddell the se mirror worked [10:42] didrocks: qt 4.7.4 works fine with kde [10:43] debfx: ok, great! agateau confirmed it as well :) Will push the new Qt tomorrow with the new unity-2d release (there are some regressions) [10:43] sounds good [10:45] debfx: thanks for testing :) [10:58] !find qdoc3 [10:59] File qdoc3 found in libqt4-dbg, qt4-dev-tools [11:10] http://i.imgur.com/jbypG.png [11:10] ? [11:10] has anyone tested 4.7.1 from the ninjas ppa? [11:19] ScottK, Riddell: Sorry, I completely forgot to take care of the Amarok announcement and I'm leaving on a family trip as we speak, could either of you take care of it please? [11:20] ok, although I'll need to work out what is being announced first [11:31] * Riddell doesn't spot any new amarok on ftpmaster, in ~kubuntu-ppa or oneiric [11:46] Riddell: maybe he meant kde? [11:46] debfx: apparently not [11:47] how do you know? :) [11:52] lucky guess [11:55] shadeslayer, bulldog98_, bambee: have you done some 4.7.1 testing? [12:07] debfx: yes [12:07] kde 4.7.1 works just fine here [12:07] I use it since few days [12:08] everything looks good [12:09] ok, thanks [12:09] * debfx uploads meta-kde and kdelibs [13:59] debfx: nope, haven't had the time to do much testing, have been busy with presentations and such [14:00] the weirdest thing happens with backlight control ... it starts working randomly ... [14:17] Riddell: We neglected to announce amarok 2.4.3. when we uploaded it. [14:17] It's not new at this point, merely missing having been announced. [14:18] debfx: I see you've started uploading 4.7.1. Great. I was going to ask. [14:23] debfx: just booted 4.7.1 up, but seems nice so far (even printer applet didn’t crash) [14:30] Did anyone package 4.7.1 for natty? [14:38] didrocks: Any idea if Bug #805303 is addressed by Qt 4.7.4? [14:38] Launchpad bug 805303 in qt4-x11 (Ubuntu) "vlc : Gtk-CRITICAL **: IA__gtk_widget_style_get: assertion `GTK_IS_WIDGET (widget)' failed with the default qt4 gui" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/805303 [14:39] ScottK: doko told me it's supposed to be addressed by this one [14:40] Cool. That's a pretty nasty one. [15:54] debfx: Did you plan on continuing to upload KDE 4.7.1 stuff? [15:55] ScottK: yes, but certainly not all of it [15:55] OK. Let's make sure to coordinate here so we don't duplicate. [15:55] Quintasan_: You going to help upload? [15:56] debfx: I'll do kdepimlibs unless you've already done it. [15:57] ScottK: I've already uploaded pimlibs [15:57] OK. I won't do that one then. [15:57] How about baseapps? [15:57] * debfx grabs libkipi, libkdeedu and libksane [15:57] * ScottK does baseapps [15:58] we should use etherpad or something instead of the wiki to coordinate uploads [15:58] If it's just two of us, I think IRC is good enough. [16:02] yes, but we should try an etherpad for 4.7.2 [16:05] * ScottK does okular [16:08] on the other hand it doesn't seem to support tables [16:08] who needs tables anyway [16:12] apachelogger, i need :-D [16:12] apachelogger: Can you join the 4.7.1 upload fest? === e-jat__ is now known as e-jat [16:14] without tables there is no order, so everything would obviously decay into anarchy === ejat is now known as fenris [16:19] ScottK: in a bit === fenris is now known as Guest40004 [16:20] OK. THanks. === Guest40004 is now known as ejat [16:20] ScottK: don't forget to add bzr tags after uploading :) [16:21] * ScottK doesn't think he's ever done that. OK. [16:22] debcommit -R -r is your friend [16:22] tags make bzr log much easier to read [16:26] Sigh. I don't think it's possible for me to type anything other than bzr ci -m " ...." [16:27] Although that does look fancy enough it might be worth it. [16:27] bzr tag (without parameters) also does the right thing [16:31] * debfx grabs kate [17:03] * ScottK mashes retry on powerpc failures. === jjesse__ is now known as jjesse [17:22] Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/k/kde4libs/libkparts4_4.7.1-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb 404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.88.45 80] [17:22] O_O [17:24] shadeslayer: use a different mirror. [17:25] nigelb: dude, these packages won't have been mirrored yet [17:25] shadeslayer: wait, its that new? [17:25] yep [17:26] Then just try again after some time [17:26] yep, i'll do that in another hour [17:28] * ScottK grabs workspace [17:28] Did anyone test 4.7.1 on Natty yet? [17:31] oxygen-icons too. [17:32] ScottK: i don't think we have packaged 4.7.1 for Natty yet [17:32] Oh, you're right. [17:33] It's 4.7.0 still in ninjas for some reason. [17:33] Quintasan_: You need to remember to commit to bzr (kde-workspace). [17:47] Heya! see you in orlando girls and guys! [18:06] heh, we were just hit by a quake [18:07] shadeslayer: small one? [18:08] jussi: big by delhi standards [18:08] size? [18:09] i'm just checking that [18:09] my router fell off the table [18:10] jussi: 6.6 i think ... not sure if these sources are correct [18:11] i mean it happened just a couple of minutes ago [18:11] any major damage? [18:11] nah [18:12] just that everyone in the house is awake now and chattering about it :P [18:15] jussi: there was a terrorist attack here in the afternook -.- [18:15] :( [18:16] outside the high court ... [18:16] oh yeah, I read that [18:17] * debfx uploads runtime [18:19] * ScottK works on smokegen [18:20] * jussi reminds people the ubuntu app developer week is on, and Stuart Langridge is giving the ubuntu one app talk right now... [18:22] jussi: How is that relevant to Kubuntu? [18:22] jussi: http://www.imd.gov.in/section/seismo/dynamic/PRLMNEW.HTM [18:23] yofel_: Please talk to pino about your changes in smokegen. It'd be nice to be able to sync the package again once they've updated. [18:24] ScottK: well, there is no reason kubuntu devs may or may not be interested to use the ubuntu one backend for storing user data in applications they write.../patches they submit for existing apps? [18:24] jussi: There's no way to use Ubuntu SSO from Qt. [18:24] So not really. [18:25] oh no, runtime contains the active stuff *sigh* [18:25] It should be cleanly separated. [18:25] ~cleanly [18:26] * jussi sighs... [18:26] jussi: Don't sigh at us. It's not our fault. === yofel_ is now known as yofel [18:26] evening [18:26] Hello yofel. [18:26] ScottK: I didn't :) [18:26] OK. [18:27] ScottK: right, I was in a bit of a hurry to patch that, I'll talk to him [18:27] That and coming to a group of free software developers and pitching your closed cloud solution may not be the most receptive audience. [18:29] jussi: this reminds me of http://xkcd.com/723/ [18:30] evening all :) [18:38] Hello BarkingFish. [18:38] Sorry if I was bugging you last night, ScottK. [18:39] Not at all. I was just not at the computer much. [18:39] did you get my memo about dammit? [18:39] I did. [18:40] So let's go over how we get your fix into Ubuntu if that's all right? [18:40] sure [18:41] just one quick question, if my fix goes up into Ubuntu/Kubuntu, does this mean I become its maintainer? [18:41] No. [18:41] Everything in Ubuntu is team maintained. [18:41] cool, ok. [18:42] If Debian updates the package you'll get first crack at merging the changes, but that's it. [18:42] The first question we need to answer is if you'll make changes directly in the upstream code or in some patch system. [18:43] Looking at the package structure I can tell ~trivially it doesn't use a patch system. [18:43] no, i did changes directly in the code [18:43] You can also use the 'what-patch' script from ubuntu-dev tools (run from the top level directory of the package. [18:43] For this package that's the right way to do it. [18:44] if there'd been a patches folder, i'd have patched it, but there wasn't. [18:44] If the package used a patch system, we'd want to convert the inline changes to a patch. [18:44] Great. [18:44] it looks only to be a beta or a demo anyhow [18:44] Next step is a debian/changelog entry. [18:45] Probably, but this kind of work is about gardening the whole of the archive and trying to get it consistent for release. [18:45] something is wrong with the archive mirror [18:45] i think I did a changelog entry for it. [18:45] The debchange (or dch) script is what you use for this. [18:45] it doesn't have kdelibs 4.7.1 anymore [18:45] dch -i will get you a new, blank changelog entry. [18:45] Weird. [18:46] i edit the changelog directly in vim.tiny, i couldn't figure out dch [18:46] debfx: its fixed iirc [18:46] debfx: i was having the same issues a couple of minutes ago [18:46] BarkingFish: Mostly just use dch -i to get the initial format right and then use your $EDITOR_OF_CHOICE from there is what I advise. [18:47] BarkingFish: Can you pastebin your debian/changelog entry? [18:47] i just looked at the format of everyone else's changelog entry and did mine the same way [18:47] sure [18:47] http://paste.ubuntu.com/684653/ [18:48] the only thing different in mine is the signature, since my gpg key has a nickname with it, i had to include it or the dsc wouldn't sign [18:48] Not bad. [18:48] It should be a little more descriptive though. [18:48] in what way? [18:48] You should have a line or two below the main on, indented and starting with - ... that describes what exactly you changed. [18:49] ah, ok [18:49] do you want me to do that and repackage it? [18:49] Also, instead of build2, this should be ubuntu1 on the revision. buildx is only used for no change rebuilds . [18:49] yes. please. [18:49] ok, i'll do that now while it's fresh in my head [18:50] give me a few moments and I'll come back to you. [18:50] You'll also need to change the maintainer from the Debian maintainer to Ubuntu Developers now that we've modified the package. You do this by running the update-maintainer script from inside the package dir. [18:50] Sure. [18:51] BarkingFish: You should also look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dammit to see if there's a relevant bug about it not buildng. [18:51] (there is). [18:52] shadeslayer: yep, seems to work now [18:52] So if you add (LP: #831128) at the end of the main line in your changelog entry, that bug will get automatically closed when the package is uploaded. [18:54] along with the (), ScottK? [18:54] Yes, although that's just standard usage and not formally part of the regex that LP uses. [18:57] Oh [18:57] I got sponsorship === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan [18:57] this update-maintainer script, where do I find it? I don't seem to have it in the project folder [18:57] is it in the pbuilder/ area? [18:57] shadeslayer,yofel: ^ check your emails [18:57] It's in ubuntu-dev-tools [18:57] ah, ok [18:58] ok, I've redone the changelog listing what I did, I'll sign it and rebuild now, maintainers are also updated [18:59] Cool. [19:02] bugger. Give me a moment, I've just screwed this up. [19:02] i'll brb [19:03] 4.7.1 released! [19:06] Quintasan: Please help us upload it. [19:09] That was fun, ScottK :) [19:10] Got it? [19:10] I lost the original tar.gz file, repulled the source and it sucked out all the flaming changes I'd put in :) [19:10] had to go back and do it again [19:10] Oops. [19:12] anyhow, build is redone, everything's looking good. What do I do with it now? :) [19:12] clean suggestions only :P [19:12] lol [19:14] dammit: Unbelievably inflexible build tool [19:14] Why would anyone use this? [19:14] ScottK: replace the "~cleanly" with "not really" [19:15] Sigh. OK. [19:15] It was, IIRC, a demo of some kind. [19:15] BarkingFish: There are two ways to submit this change for review. [19:15] IIRC we start by uploading kdelibs [19:15] Right? [19:15] Quintasan: Done. [19:15] ok ScottK - shoot [19:16] :) [19:16] Quintasan: Review your backscroll for the stuff that's uploaded already. [19:16] Quintasan: please fix kde-runtime so the active patches aren't applied when dh_auto_install is executed [19:16] BarkingFish: 1. Use the fancy UDD/bzr stuff that was in the packaging guide you were pointed too (I don't really use this myself, so can't advise you). [19:17] also: W: kde-runtime-active-dbg: empty-binary-package [19:17] i haven't worked out bzr yet, maybe it should be called bizarre, not bazaar :P [19:17] what's the other way? :) [19:17] BarkingFish: 2. Use debdiff dammit_0~preview1-3build1.dsc dammit_0~preview1-3ubuntu1.dsc > patch to get a patch of the differences. [19:18] Then you can attach that patch to the bug I found and subscribe the ubuntu-sponsors team to the bug. [19:18] They go through and look for stuff that needs uploading. [19:20] Quintasan: and W: plasma-scriptengine-javascript-active: file-in-unusual-dir debian/tmp-kde-runtime-active/usr/lib/kde4/plasma_appletscript_simple_javascript.so [19:20] debfx: Fixing [19:21] * Quintasan looks at rbelem [19:22] [kde-runtime] Michal Zajac * 233 * debian/plasma-scriptengine-javascript-active.install Fixed install file for plasma-scriptengine-javascript-active [19:22] debfx: pushed [19:23] why do the kipi pluginsrequire konquerer? [19:24] ScottK, done. Patch and comments added, and I've subscribed the ubuntu-sponsors team. [19:24] bulldog98_: Could you remove packaging branches which we already merged? [19:24] all of it? [19:24] Great. [19:24] * Quintasan grabs kdeutils [19:25] BarkingFish: Your dammfile.cpp changes aren't in the diff: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/79262267/patch [19:25] ? [19:25] I musta forgotten to do them [19:25] Quintasan: what about the other two issues? [19:25] The package still built though [19:25] debfx: What are the two other issues? [19:26] So then I guess those weren't needed. [19:26] * Quintasan lost track of it [19:26] most likely not [19:26] it was just missing ; and a couple of spaces [19:26] So you'll need to fix the changelog entry (also lose the blank line( [19:26] ok [19:26] s)/(/ [19:26] [21:16:40] Quintasan: please fix kde-runtime so the active patches aren't applied when dh_auto_install is executed [19:26] [21:17:00] also: W: kde-runtime-active-dbg: empty-binary-package [19:27] Ah [19:27] I see [19:27] why do the kipi pluginsrequire konquerer? [19:27] which blank line, the one between the * and the two - lines? [19:28] debfx: You want me to revert the patches before calling dh_auto_install? [19:28] Quintasan: yes [19:28] Any particular reason for this? [19:28] * Quintasan would like to know for future reference [19:30] ok, sorted, i've cleaned up the changelog, redoing the build now [19:31] * Quintasan wonders why dh_strip doesnt work with runtime [19:31] brb, prepping food [19:32] debfx: Any ideas on debug stripping? Adding dh_quilt_unpatch in override_dh_auto_install should do the trick for the first issue however I have no idea how to fix the stripping if it doesn't work that way [19:32] Quintasan: otherwise you don't have a seperation, dh_auto_install rebuilds all files that have been modified [19:34] be back in about a half hour [19:34] dacresni: they don't [19:34] i shouldn't have asked it in that manor [19:34] however kipi-plugins recommends konqueror [19:34] the changelog says "Added konqueror as recommend because flickr-plugin needs it." [19:34] kipi automatically installs konkorer [19:34] in kubuntu [19:34] (natty) [19:34] I'm not sure if that's true anymore [19:35] it doesn't in [19:35] oneric [19:35] oh [19:35] dacresni: yes, but you can remove it afterwards [19:35] they fixed it [19:35] oh, thank [19:35] * rbelem pokes Quintasan [19:35] debfx: http://paste.kde.org/119221 Should that fix the issue with the patches? [19:35] rbelem: Well, you forgot to fix plasma-scriptengine-javascript-active.install [19:36] oh! [19:36] :/ [19:36] I fixed it but we have something else [19:36] sorry [19:36] debug info stripping doesn't work for some reason [19:37] Quintasan, did you use that vim cmd? [19:37] Nope, I was too lazy to go through the backlog [19:37] :P [19:37] Quintasan, maybe we have to override dh strip [19:37] Quintasan: something like dh_strip -Nkde-runtime-active --dbg-package=kde-runtime-dbg; dh_strip -pkde-runtime-active --dbg-package=kde-runtime-active-dbg [19:38] That will require testing! [19:38] Quintasan, the cmd was in my idemtica [19:38] Quintasan: that would unapply all patches [19:39] and you need to have the active patches applied when calling dh_auto_install the second time [19:40] brb [19:40] debfx: Well, the active patches remain applied after dh_auto_build, don't they? [19:40] First I build the source with the normal patches [19:40] unapply them [19:40] apply active patches and build the source once again [19:42] debfx: http://paste.kde.org/119227 IMO that should work unless I am mistaken with the patches still being applied after dh_auto_build [19:42] BarkingFish: Yes. That one. [19:43] anyone know y kontact 4.7.0 display this error : KMail encountered a fatal error and will terminate now. [19:43] The error was: [19:43] Failed to fetch the resource collection. [19:43] [kdeutils] Michal Zajac * 129 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.7.1-0ubuntu1 [19:43] apachelogger: debcommit -R -r FTW! [19:43] Quintasan: yes, that looks better [19:44] ok, it's all done, i'll see you in a bit, i need to eat right now. back in about 20 odd minutes o [19:44] *or so [19:44] Great. [19:44] debfx: Anything else before I commit? [19:45] Quintasan: nope [19:46] Quintasan: Can you do the updated translation upload? [19:46] [kde-runtime] Michal Zajac * 234 * debian/rules Fixed issue with wrong patches being applied when calling dh_auto_install and debug info stripping issues [19:46] ScottK: I have absolutely no idea how do we do this but I think it's a good opportunity to learn [19:47] Woot! Sponsorship approved. [19:47] See if you can stir apachelogger from his stupor to explain it. [19:47] I'll be at UDS-P [19:47] DarkwingDuck: Grats, same here [19:47] Yay! [19:47] * Quintasan wonders if he can get visa on time [19:47] It'll be more then just me and Riddell then. [19:47] BarkingFish: Can you lend me your baton? [19:47] me too :D [19:47] afiestas, too [19:47] Quintasan, I believe that Canonical will help you with that. [19:48] Well, I already requested a letter of invitation [19:48] Quintasan, i think you dont need visa [19:48] Why wouldn't I need one? [19:48] Quintasan, you are european [19:49] rbelem: Earth to Rodrigo, we are talking about USA [19:49] europeans doest need visa [19:49] News to me [19:49] Quintasan, check the embazy website [19:49] AFAIR people from Poland always needed Visas [19:49] you dont need [19:50] * Quintasan will call embassy tomorrow [19:52] ScottK: Looks like I won't get to upload anything today, I have to go soon and it doesn't look like apachelogger is going to explain it anytime soon [19:53] it being translation magic [19:53] OK. [19:53] * rbelem googles for visa [19:53] hasn't apachelogger already uploaded kde-l10n? [19:53] rbelem: You'd better stick +Poland there [19:53] oki [19:53] debfx: yes [19:53] debfx: and -fr needs a rebuild once l10n is in [19:54] and what was it that Quintasan/ScottK wanted to have explained [19:54] How do we deal with this translation stuff [19:54] also I am buzz-y with the phonons [19:54] Quintasan: what is there to deal with? [19:54] apachelogger: Just put up a wiki page how to do it and everyone will be happy [19:54] https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/Packaging/L10nOperatorGuide [19:55] just look at the wiki and everyone will be happy [19:55] besides, there is also a README.source [19:55] I see [19:55] Awesome [19:55] It's already uploaded then? [19:56] * Quintasan will do it next release to get his share of experience in l10n magic [19:56] as requested by someone, like before other stuff was uploaded [19:56] leading ot consequential FTBFS on -fr [19:56] Riddell: Can bzr do submodules now? [19:57] Sure enough. apachelogger did it already. [19:58] Doing smokeqt [19:59] apachelogger hey [20:01] rbelem: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visa_Waiver_Program [20:01] http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visa_Waiver_Program [20:01] rbelem: As you can seen, Poland is not included [20:02] :D [20:02] :/ [20:02] * Quintasan shrugs [20:02] I never expected anything to change in USA in that department [20:02] cp: cannot stat `debian/tmp/usr/lib/kde4/activitymanager_plugin_dummy.so': No such file or directory [20:02] * debfx sighs once more [20:03] What on Earth... [20:03] President Obama promised that Poland would be added to the program, in a meeting with Polish President Bronislaw Komorowski in December 2010; however no date has been set for when Poland will be added.[9] [20:03] rbelem: Something is still broken with runtime-active :/ [20:04] why dont you have visa free? [20:04] what is broken? [20:04] sheytan: lo [20:04] rbelem: [22:02:54] cp: cannot stat `debian/tmp/usr/lib/kde4/activitymanager_plugin_dummy.so': No such file or directory [20:04] o.O [20:05] rbelem: Why don't we have no visa program? Don't ask me, ask USA [20:05] i will check that now [20:05] apachelogger do you know any good and cheap hotel in Berlin near brandenburger tor? [20:05] nope [20:05] sheytan: you should talk to Blizzz [20:06] apachelogger: will do, thans :) [20:06] Quintasan, is poland part of europe union? [20:06] Are you seriously asking this? [20:07] Yes, Poland is in EU [20:07] yup :) [20:07] lol :D [20:07] Since May 2004 I think [20:08] Well, it doesn't matter at this point in time. If I won't get visa then I won't attend, that's all there is to it. [20:09] i got a visa for usa in less than a nonth [20:09] You live in a country with a better bureaucracy then [20:10] shadeslayer got a visa last year. If he can do it, surely you can. [20:10] For visas it's the US bureaucracy you have to worry about. Not Polish. [20:10] ScottK: Well, I can get a visa. The question is if I can get it within time [20:11] Quintasan, nope brazil is the most one [20:11] Quintasan, it should be easier for polish get visa than brazilians [20:12] brb [20:13] * Quintasan heads to bed [20:13] Good night [20:29] Hi again, sorry about the delay, just wanted to give everything time to settle :) === OffToHades is now known as BarkingFish [20:40] No problem. [20:41] BarkingFish: Did you update the debdiff in the bug? [20:41] no. I'll do that now [20:45] ok, the correct patch is up [20:45] * ScottK looks [20:46] Looks decent. Let's try it. [20:46] the blank line has gone, I've removed the info about damnfile.cpp since the changes weren't required, it looks good to fly [20:46] it builds ok here, I have a copy of it. [20:47] Missed the maintainer change. I'll fix that. [20:48] did I? oh flipping heck. [20:48] * BarkingFish facepalms [20:52] Also there's two spaces after the email address (the format is very picky - always use dch -i to at least get the initial skeleton) [20:52] Fixed. [20:56] If I'd not lost all the original changes when I repulled the source, I'd have been fine. [20:56] Panic does strange things to a person, ScottK :P [20:56] Yep. [20:56]