[00:00] <BarkingFish> salty - so what exactly is the problem with it?
[00:00] <salty> i live on a boat and sometimes need the range
[00:00] <salty> the os or net manger has problems when both are running...
[00:01] <BarkingFish> what kind of problems?
[00:01] <salty> they try to connect to the same access point and the short range interupts the long range
[00:02] <salty> and programs i guess get confused
[00:02] <BarkingFish> does it give you two wifi points in ifconfig?
[00:03] <salty> and some times i'm watching a streaming video and it just stops transfering data... but works perfect under winblows
[00:03] <salty> yes
[00:03] <BarkingFish> right, do you know which of the two wifi points is the long range?
[00:03] <salty> wlan0 and wlan1
[00:03] <salty> yes
[00:03] <BarkingFish> good
[00:04] <BarkingFish> here's what you should do if you want to force it to only connect over one wifi point.
[00:04] <BarkingFish> are you using the network manager on the taskbar? the little thing that looks like a speaker icon turned upwards?
[00:06] <salty> yep
[00:06] <salty> i perfer the terminal
[00:06] <BarkingFish> this is easier for the moment, trust me :)
[00:06] <BarkingFish> if you click on the network manager icon, when the window opens, click Manage connections.
[00:07] <salty> yep
[00:07] <BarkingFish> you'll get network manager's control module configuration pop up.
[00:07] <salty> yep
[00:07] <BarkingFish> click on the wireless tab, and click the name of the stored connection
[00:08] <salty> ok
[00:08] <BarkingFish> now click edit, and when the next window opens, you'll see a little section that says "Restrict to interface"
[00:08] <salty> ok
[00:09] <BarkingFish> change the area to the right, to whichever is your long range wifi point, and hit ok
[00:09] <salty> ok
[00:09] <BarkingFish> the window will close, click apply and click ok
[00:09] <BarkingFish> then close that window
[00:10] <BarkingFish> now, whenever you connect to that access point, it will strictly only connect over whichever wifi point you set
[00:10] <magyar> I am experiencing an odd issue after upgrading to 11.04. I use pymol program that is using 3d features of my radeon 1905XTX video card. With 10.10 version of kubuntu the application was working fine after the upgrade it choppy and tapping the CPU. Why?
[00:10] <salty> it doesn't give whether it's wlan0 or wlan1 it just says wlan for both wireless cards
[00:10] <BarkingFish> My machine used to do the same, salty - imagine 3 wifi adapters all trying to hook to the same beacon, it's nuts.
[00:11] <BarkingFish> salty - you can change that too
[00:11] <salty> i'll try ifup and ifdown
[00:12] <salty> BarkingFish: how can i change that
[00:12] <BarkingFish> if you go back to the manage connections window I just sent you to, when you get it open, click Other on the left side, and set "Show network interfaces using" - to System name. apply it, and OK it
[00:13] <BarkingFish> at the moment, it's using Descriptive name most probably
[00:14] <BarkingFish> Once you've done that, network manager will refer to your interfaces by their system name, which will be wlan0 and wlan1
[00:15] <salty> ok... just did it... i hope it stays... thnx BarkingFish
[00:15] <BarkingFish> you can then go back and do the restrict to interface thing, since you'll now see the wifi points by their proper name
[00:16] <salty> i did :)
[00:16] <BarkingFish> no problem salty - networking is sorta my specialty
[00:16] <BarkingFish> especially usb, since most of my wifi is run through it
[00:16] <salty> it's alot easier using commandline
[00:17] <salty> and alot faster
[00:17] <BarkingFish> unfortunately, i am not great on the cli, most of my stuff is done through GUI
[00:17] <BarkingFish> the only thing I use the cli for is package building :)
[00:17] <salty> my pewter has slowed down so much with this GUI stuff
[00:18] <salty> but i told myself i'd give it a try
[00:18] <BarkingFish> yeah, GUIs do tend to slow things down a fair bit, my poor laptop has a heck of a time when I'm using blender.
[00:20] <salty> lol... now that's something someone should develop for linux... a good 3D CAD system
[00:21] <salty> blender is a surfacer... not really a CAD system. Like autocad and solidworks
[00:21] <BarkingFish> we have one
[00:21] <BarkingFish> sudo apt-get install librecad
[00:21] <BarkingFish> I have it on here
[00:21] <salty> 2d or 3d?
[00:22] <BarkingFish> 3d
[00:23] <salty> ok... i'll give it a try... thnx... i hope...lol
[00:25] <BarkingFish> i don't use it much, most of my stuff is done through sweet home 3d
[00:26] <BarkingFish> but that's specific for doing things like internal house decoration
[00:28] <BarkingFish> anyways, I'm outta here for today.  It's nearly 1.30am. I'll be on later today salty, about 1700 UK time, so if you get stuck, grab one of the guys in here, or I'll catch you later.
[00:28] <BarkingFish> See you about all, take care and have a good night
[00:28] <salty> ok cya
[01:24] <ionite> why can't i perform a software update? i keep getting a legacy lock prompt
[01:25] <szal> "legacy lock prompt"?
[01:25] <ionite> szal: that's right
[01:25] <szal> never heard of
[01:27] <ionite> szal: anyways, how do i perform an update via terminal?
[01:28] <szal> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade (or replace 'apt-get' with 'aptitude' if (1) you have that installed and (2) you intend to do package management entirely on the cmdline)
[01:51] <milton> oi
[01:52] <milton> alguem de sp pra tc
[01:56] <FloodBotK1> !netsplit
[03:35] <yesitisjustme> anyone use wine?
[03:35] <Unit193> !ask
[04:37] <fitha> i want to need the vmworkstation for linux 7.1.4 ,,the key
[05:39] <sergey_> it works
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[07:50] <fitha> vm 7.1.4 for linux key
[09:09] <osinclair> anyone here actually manage to use RTM plasmoid? I got it connected once only, since it just hangs
[09:27] <nadim> hi, best place to ask for help setting up multiple monitors/gpus with nvidia drivers? #ubuntu, #xorg, #nvidia are not very helpfull right now.
[09:32] <James147> !nvidia | nadim
[09:32] <James147> nadim: genereally though its install the closed drivers (using "additional drivers") and run "kdesudo nvidia-settings"
[09:33] <James147> making sure to save the xorg.conf to /etc/X11/xorg.conf once you have set it up
[09:33] <nadim> I did that
[09:34]  * James147 dosnt have must expeience with multiple gpus though 
[09:34] <nadim> the config gets updated. I even set the pci bus ID manually. on X restart I get a device not found error. althoug nvidia-settings shows the devices.
[09:35] <nadim> I just installed kubuntu after a disk crash. I as running Gentoo before and it worked OK.
[09:36] <nadim> I am happy to skip gnome desktop but not so happy that I want to run a single monitor down from three
[10:42] <rehbeinn> vvv
[10:42] <rehbeinn> lol
[10:42] <rehbeinn> tesr
[10:44] <rehbeinn> miles?
[10:44] <miles> that's my name
[10:44] <rehbeinn> lol who are you
[10:44] <miles> i'll bet yours isn't rehbeinn
[10:45] <miles> i am fine
[10:45] <miles> oh, who
[10:45] <miles> i'm miles
[10:45] <rehbeinn> kk
[10:45] <rehbeinn> just thought this is a lan chat
[10:45] <rehbeinn> i am here sitting on the pc and learning info
[10:53] <miles> learning is good
[12:46] <BluesKaj> G'Day all
[13:07] <natman2> Does here use yahoo mail? just want to find out if my problem is Kubuntu related or not
[13:08] <vivep> i am unable to creata a keyboard shortcut to open Konsole. I am newbie to Kubuntu. Would be very glad if someone can help me out
[13:11] <natman2> vivep: you might want to try installing "yakuake" is a drop down terminal, like konsole but a lot easier to hide away when you dont need it
[13:12] <vivep> natman2: Thank you . I have yakuake already. But i need to be able to open multiple terminals
[13:12] <vivep> So i also prefer having a shortcut
[13:14] <natman2> vivep: have you tried Kmenu->sys settings -Shortcuts and Gestures->Custom->edit and new command
[13:15] <vivep> natman2: I went till there. But there i got confused how to create a shortcut. In the comment,triggered and action part. I didn't understand where i am supposed to say open console for this shortcut
[13:15] <vivep> *konsole
[13:15] <susundberg> Hey, what is this: python-pyopencl nvidia-current
[13:16] <susundberg> i mean python-pyopencl depends on nvidia-current
[13:16] <susundberg> That should be a bug -- since opencl is not nvidia dependent
[13:17] <natman2> vivep: I just got it working there, in that custom settings, go to edit, new, give it a nice name then on the left panel under trigger, clikc the box and hold the key press that you want to launch konsole with, then under action just type "konsole"
[13:17] <vivep> natman2 , thanks will try it now
[13:19] <susundberg> "update-alternatives: using /usr/lib/nvidia-current/ld.so.conf to provide /etc/ld.so.conf.d/GL.conf" -- this sounds like it will break my ati card ..
[13:22] <vivep> natman2, its not working
[13:23] <vivep> natman2 , i gave the nickname as kon
[13:23] <vivep> I gave the input as ctrl+j
[13:23] <natman2> vivep: what was the action
[13:23] <natman2> ?
[13:23] <vivep> natman2 , i typed Konsole in the action. i said apply. Still konsole doesn't open if i click ctrl+j .
[13:24] <vivep> natman2 , action is Konsole
[13:24] <natman2> vivep: can you open konsole as normal, then type konsole
[13:24] <natman2> vivep: what happens?
[13:25] <vivep> natman2 : multiple Konsoles are opening
[13:25] <natman2> vivep: LOL in that settings box there is an unticked block called examples, one is for Konsole
[13:26] <natman2> vivep: just expand out examples and tick the one for Konsole, and try that should be defaulted to "ctrl+ALT+T"
[13:28] <vivep> natman2 : got it . Thanks . But still i wanna learn to create shortcuts. I saw the action part of the example . There was something called command/url
[13:29] <vivep> But when i created a shortcut there was a slightly different screen . And i typing konsole had no effect. I had the doubt that my mistake was in action part. Just can't figure out where
[13:29] <vivep> natman2 : its basically a new -> global shortcut -> keyboard shortcut right?
[13:29] <James147> vivep: edit the menu (right click > edit menu or run kmenu edit) > find the applicaiton you want to launch > advanced > add a shorcut there
[13:33] <vivep> natman2 , James147 : Thanks to both of you. I realized my mistake . I was creating new->global shortcut->send keyboard input instead of command/url and so i was lost
[13:33] <natman2> vivep: cool all working now?
[13:34] <natman2> Does here use yahoo mail? just want to find out if my problem is Kubuntu related or not
[13:34] <James147> natman2: you might want to say what your problem is ^^
[13:35] <natman2> Sorry, Recently in Kubuntu on yahoo mail ( the new flashy version ) whenever i try to add an attachemt the flash plugin will crash or it will just never finish the upload - fine in windows
[13:38] <James147> natman2: useing what browser?
[13:39] <vivep> natman2: sorry to bug you again . What should i give in command/url if i wanna open chromium-browser ?
[13:39] <natman2> James147: using Firefox ver 6.02 and latest version of flash ( all other flash things like youtube work perfect )
[13:40] <OerHeks> vivep >> /usr/bin/chromium-browser %U
[13:40] <natman2> vivep: im guesssing just "chromium" but to test, open up Konsole  and type chr and press tab it should predict the needed command
[13:44] <vivep> OerHeks : why is that %U ?
[13:44] <James147> vivep: list of urls
[13:44] <OerHeks> vivep, not sure, i just copy the starter from menu
[13:45] <vivep> natman2 : Just chromium wouldn't work because we've to give the path of the file to open . And if i say just chromium . It will open my default browser and it will generate the search result of chromium in my default search engine
[13:45] <vivep> natman2 : In my case . It opens chromium-browser :P and opens google and searches chromium
[13:45] <natman2> vivep: :D
[13:45] <James147> OerHeks: vivep: entries in the menu will replace %U will a list of urls that list any files or folders that they where launched with (ie when you click a file in dolphin)
[13:46] <James147> also %u with a single url %f and %F with file names and various others ^^
[13:49] <vivep> James 147: thanks , but i didn't understand properly. So it means that if i replace  %U with content like http://www.google.com it will open that . Is this what you tried to explain?
[13:57] <giantpune> does anybody here have experience with nvidia drivers and kubuntu?  i have everything working fine with ubuntu 10.04.  but im wanting to switch to kubuntu 11.04 and the video drivers are my only concern
[13:59] <DavidTalbot> the are working great as long as u use the nvidia drivers and not the nouveau
[13:59]  * szal doesn't see any problem, not even with nouveau
[14:00] <szal> if you have any card that's too old for the nvidia-current, you better go with the nouveau, unless you can live without effects
[14:02] <giantpune> i booted up the live DVD and it worked with the default drivers, but the screen was flickering.  i installed the nvidia drivers through the package manager, but i dont know how to have it use those new drivers.  dont you need to restart the computer to have it use the newly installed drivers?
[14:02] <James147> vinces: %U is a placeholder for .desktop files to tell what ever calls them where to place the list of urls (ie it lets you launch stuff in dolphin)  ^^ shorcuts wont have any files so %U will be empty... if you want to launch a spicific site then just replace it with the site you want ...
[14:03] <BluesKaj> giantpune, which nvidia card , the nvidia-current driver supportd cards from the 6XXX series up
[14:04] <giantpune> the motherboard has a 8xxx integrated and i have a 9200gt in the pci slot
[14:05]  * szal guesses that there is no easy way to get the nvidia driver running on a live system, unless you have a persistent USB live stick
[14:06] <James147> szal: ^^ just restart X
[14:06] <BluesKaj> giantpune, then if you do a clean install the nouveau will be the default upon install, then just use the jockey to install the nvidia-current driver
[14:06] <James147> though it is a bit of hassel to keep doing it on a live cd every boot
[14:07] <szal> James147: restarting X doesn't load the kernel driver
[14:08] <giantpune> ok, ill give that a shot.  also, the liveDVD hangs at the boot screen when i have a certain hard drive attached.  any idea if this is just a bug in the CD and will not happen once i install the operating system?
[14:08] <James147> szal: installing nvidia-current, setting up xorg.conf and restarting X is all you need to do ^^
[14:08] <BluesKaj> giantpune, kmenu>apps>syatem>additional drivers
[14:08] <BluesKaj> err system
[14:09]  * James147 thinks udev handels the loading of the kernel modules ..
[14:10] <BluesKaj> for nvidia the command is sudo nvidia-xconfig to configure Xorg
[14:11] <BluesKaj> szal, read above about xorg
[14:22] <szal> BluesKaj: define 'above'
[14:23] <BluesKaj> szal, for nvidia the command is sudo nvidia-xconfig to configure Xorg
[14:24] <szal> BluesKaj: yes, that creates a xorg.conf
[14:26] <BluesKaj> szal, if there's no xorg.conf file which the nouveau doesn't seem to need , but the nvidia-current driver does
[14:26] <szal> BluesKaj: and if there is one, it backs that up & creates a new one
[14:27] <BluesKaj> yes
[14:49] <bigbrovar> anyone knows the best way to open a vcf file on kde?
[14:54] <genii-around> bigbrovar: It is a text file so any editor if you just want to see whats inside.
[14:55] <genii-around> bigbrovar: Probably Kaddressbook if you want to import whats in the vcard file
[14:58] <bigbrovar> genii-around: yeah by default vcf are opened via a text editor (in most cases kate) which is not ideal because the files are not well formatted. If I choose to open them with kaddressbook just to see the contact in a well formatted way and before I decide to add them to my contact. It just fails :/
[14:59] <genii-around> bigbrovar: Have you tried Kontact?
[15:00] <bigbrovar> genii-around: yeah I do kontact 4.7
[15:01] <bigbrovar> but I can not get it to open and view a vcf file
[15:32] <Duolos> For some reason, KDE's desktop effects no longer work in 11.04.  Can't be enabled in System Settings, but worked great on a clean install.  Any ideas on where I should look to figure out what went wrong?
[15:44] <genii-around> Duolos: Most likely is that the current driver for video cannot support composite effects
[15:44] <Duolos> genii-around: I never changed the drivers, though...
[15:47] <genii-around> Duolos: Perhaps check under System Tools ... Additional Drivers   to see if it recommends a different driver
[15:47] <genii-around> ( jockey-kde )
[15:51] <JuJuBee> Can I run the 64 bit 11.04 on an Intel 6300 with 4G RAM? or should I use 32 bit?
[15:51] <BluesKaj> I need to generate a GPG key for launchpad , there are tutorials on the web for ubuntu , but there's no equivalent path/application in kubuntu ...any ideas ?
[15:52] <BluesKaj> er PGP
[15:53] <Pici> huh
[15:53] <Pici> BluesKaj: gpg is a cli application.
[15:54] <Pici> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto#Using_GnuPG_to_generate_a_key
[15:54] <Pici> Theres a section further down the page about submitting it to launchpad as well.
[15:55] <BluesKaj> Pici,  sorry , I meant PGP
[16:06] <Pici> BluesKaj: They're essentially the same thing.
[16:30] <BluesKaj> Pici, I get this message after using the tutorial for cli PGP generation , http://paste.kde.org/119131
[16:30] <Pici> BluesKaj: did you mash on the keyboard?
[16:30] <BluesKaj> no
[16:31] <BluesKaj> should I ?
[16:31] <BluesKaj> Pici, ^
[16:31] <Pici> BluesKaj: It needs to generate random bytes, and it does that by reading stuff in from hardware (among other places), so move the mouse around, mash on the keyboard, etc, when it gives you that message.
[16:33] <BluesKaj> Pici, ok ...thanks, it worked
[17:20] <LordCrc> hi, how do i make the neponuk/stringi icon go away?
[17:21] <LordCrc> it's seriously annoying
[17:24] <OerHeks> LordCrc, in my (dutch) Kde i just richtklick the icon, go into settings and disabled it. then it won't show up, only in hidden icons.
[17:24] <LordCrc> OerHeks: ok, i'll try that now that it's settled down
[17:25] <LordCrc> OerHeks: you disable the whole service then?
[17:25] <OerHeks> yes
[17:25] <LordCrc> i want the service, i just dont want the icon
[17:25] <LordCrc> why should i know what file it's indexing all the bloody time
[17:38] <James147> LordCrc: right click the systray > System tray settings > Entries you can set it to always be hidden
[17:40] <LordCrc> ah, nice
[17:40] <LordCrc> be gone your irritating little thing
[17:40] <LordCrc> :D
[17:50] <hacked_kernel> is there a room for firewalls and security?
[17:52] <drostje> Has anyone gotten GIMP working on Kubuntu Natty? o_O.
[17:53] <szal> no need to get it working, it just works
[17:53] <James147> drostje: it should ^^ why dosnt yours?
[17:54] <drostje> It doesn't just work for me. Here's a GDB backtrace: http://paste.ubuntu.com/684617/ . It segfaults in a Oxygen::RCStyle::createStyle(_GtkRcStyle*)  call.
[17:58] <drostje> one sec, just installed the libgtk debug symbols...
[17:58] <markit> hi, natty here, and gcompris. When I use a tool to draw a line, I click and drag, but the cursor becomes a "star" and I can move the window, like normally I can do with ALT+drag. Any idea?
[17:58] <markit> and, someone can confirm? :) KDE 4.7 from backports
[17:58] <markit> ppa
[17:59] <drostje> http://paste.ubuntu.com/684622/ has more details of why GIMP fails on kubuntu natty for me. :<
[18:04] <markit> nevermind, found that is a bug http://old.nabble.com/-Bug-280284--New%3A-Drag-window-from-all-empty-areas-should-be-disabled-in-Gcompris-educational-suite-td32281421.html
[18:08] <drostje> :ooo problem almost solved.
[18:09] <drostje> Yayyy. Found a duplicate of the bug at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gimp/+bug/778414 and someone proposed a workaround there. :DDD
[18:19] <SJr> I'm using Kubuntu 11.04 and for some reasons login seems to hang for new users. My account can login fine, but completely new accounts just have the K stay unblured for ever
[18:19] <SJr> there seems to be no disk activity either
[18:25] <drostje> SJr: sounds very weird. :x
[18:27] <SJr> xfce loaded fine, now I have upgraded to KDE-4.7 but I actually had this problem before
[18:28] <drostje> It might be possible to debug such a system by switching to a teletype (Ctrl-Alt-F1) and doing a bunch of text commands but without more information that is very hard to figure out. KDE does store a lot of stuff in home directories -- perhaps copying ~/.kde to the new user's account helps?
[18:28] <genii-around> SJr: How are you adding new users?
[18:29] <James147> SJr: check ~/.xsessions-error of the suers failing to load ^^
[18:29] <drostje> heh, others clearly know better than I do. :o
[18:58] <jony> I want to install XP as a second OS
[18:58] <jony> I've read a tutorial about how I can do this
[18:59] <jony> it tells me about GRUB's menu.lst backup
[18:59] <jony> but I don't have any in GRUB folder
[18:59] <jony> I have Kubuntu .
[18:59] <jony> 11.04
[19:00] <jony> annnybody help?
[19:00] <mfraz74> jony: you need to look for a tutorial based on GRUB 2
[19:01] <shane2peru> jony: I gotta run, but you are now using Grub2, and not 1, as the tutorial you were reading was for Grub, not grub2.
[19:09] <jony> ty for answers
[19:24] <dacresni> why do the kipi pluginsrequire konquerer?
[19:24] <dacresni_> why do the kipi pluginsrequire konquerer?
[19:32] <vadrao> Hi all, does anybody know how to download the latest kernel, now that kernel.org is not working ..
[19:57] <mudassar> I installed Kubuntu 11.04 after using 10.04 for long times ...... now I am running my c code with gcc ..... but it gives me permission denied ...... it was fine in 10.04 ... I guess now some library is missing
[19:58] <mudassar> plz help
[20:10] <vadrao> mudassar: try chmod 777 yourfilename
[20:11] <vadrao> and then try and compile the c code
[20:13] <mudassar> still same problem
[20:14] <mudassar> i tried to do sudo apt-get install libc6 libc6-dev but it says it is set to manual install
[20:14] <mudassar> my understanding is that, this library is either not installed
[20:14] <mudassar> or I am missing something else
[20:15] <mudassar> plz help me
[20:19] <vadrao> mudassar: Did you install build-essential ?
[20:20] <mudassar> let me try
[20:20] <mudassar> it says it is already latest
[20:21] <vadrao> can you copy and paste the error in the pastebin
[20:23] <mudassar> it compiles but when I run it as ./serial.o it says permission denied ....... I am compiling the same way I was compiling in 10.04
[20:25] <vadrao> what does ls -al serial.o give ?
[20:25] <mudassar> I am sure, I am missing some post installations
[20:25] <mudassar> after installation of 11.04
[20:26] <vadrao> mudassar: what does "ls -al serial.o" give ?
[20:27] <mudassar> -rw------- 1 mudassar mudassar 17007 2011-09-07 22:13 serial.o
[20:27] <vadrao> mudassar: Post installation problem could be one reason.. but since the error is about permissions its good to rule it out first
[20:27] <vadrao> There you go
[20:27] <vadrao> You do not have permissions to execute the file
[20:27] <vadrao> try "chmod 777 serial.o"
[20:27] <vadrao> and then execute it
[20:27] <mudassar> I have tried this
[20:28] <mudassar> still same :(
[20:30] <mudassar> I discovered one thing .....
[20:30] <vadrao> mudassar: I can clearly see that you do not have permissions to execute the file.. you may also try copying the serial.o file to your home directory or desktop and then executing it
[20:30] <mudassar> yes
[20:30] <mudassar> this solved
[20:30] <vadrao> good
[20:31] <mudassar> actually the code is placed on the windows drive ...
[20:31] <vadrao> So most likely, the problem is the folder in which you are working..
[20:31] <mudassar> /media/Windows7_OS/Linux_Data/
[20:32] <mudassar> like this
[20:32] <mudassar> this time I used ext4 as filesystem
[20:32] <mudassar> did this make any difference ?
[20:32] <vadrao> It only has to do with the permissions of the folder..
[20:33] <vadrao> chmod -R 777 /media/Windows7_OS/Linux_Data/
[20:33] <vadrao> see if that solves
[20:33] <Pici> uh
[20:33] <Pici> Thats rather extreme.
[20:34] <vadrao> if Linux_Data is a small working directory.. if it has a lot of files and different kinds then it is extreme,, I understand
[20:35] <mudassar> is there any difference in navigating to folder as /media/Window7_OS/Linux_Data or first mounting it at /mnt and then going through mnt ?
[20:36] <mudassar> using mount /dev/sda2 /mnt it does not allow me to mount it
[20:37] <mudassar> it was already mounted
[20:37] <mudassar> i used umount to unmount it
[20:37] <mudassar> and now everything worked :)
[20:38] <mudassar> I unmounted /media/Window7_OS and then did sudo mount /dev/sda2 /mnt ........ and then opened that folder throught mnt ........ and everything worked :)
[20:38] <mudassar> thanks people :)
[20:39] <mudassar> for your hints
[20:39] <vadrao> whenever you are mounting an ntfs partition you need to use the driver ntfs-3g like "mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdb1 /mnt/ntfs/ "
[21:08] <jimmy51_> how can i access logs for this channel?
[21:08] <jimmy51_> i figured something out months ago, reported it here, and have forgotten my solution :(
[22:39] <Aqua352> hi
[23:36] <BarkingFish> evening all.  Can someone tell me whereabouts in the system major crashes, such as progs crashing out to a stack, would be listed please?  I just suffered a serious crash which locked my machine up and dumped a whole shedload of stuff which i couldn't read through in time.
[23:38] <meir> Hi everyone
[23:40] <meir> Need some help with Kubunto :: can not find the terminal  for some reson , just disappear
[23:41] <virgilio> meir: ALT+F2 and then konsole
[23:42] <BarkingFish> meir, when you say it just disappears, do you mean you open it and it goes away, or that you can't find it at all?
[23:42] <meir> cant find it  at all
[23:42] <BarkingFish> follow what virgilio said then
[23:42] <BarkingFish> that will open a terminal for you
[23:46] <virgilio> KDE 4.7.1 has been released
[23:47] <virgilio> http://kde.org/announcements/announce-4.7.1.php
[23:48] <BarkingFish> virgilio, I don't suppose you'd know where I can find the output from a crash, do you?
[23:49] <BarkingFish> All i know is my screen went black, filled up with crud, and locked up so I had to switch the machine off
[23:49] <virgilio> Did you try to go to console (CRTL+ALT+F1)?
[23:50] <BarkingFish> I tried everything, I couldn't get anything to work
[23:50] <BluesKaj> the toolbar containing file , edit etc is missing from Dolphin, there doesn't seem to be an option in configure dolphin to add it ...any suggestions?
[23:50] <BarkingFish> I had no tty access, no keys would work, plasma died, I was just left with a black screen, lots of text which looked like a backtrace, and that was it
[23:50] <virgilio> BluesKaj: CRTL+M
[23:51] <virgilio> BarkingFish: maybe a kernel panic?
[23:51] <BarkingFish> most likely, but I still wanted to see what caused it
[23:51] <BarkingFish> i just don't know where to find the output from the panic, assuming it got logged somewhere
[23:52] <BarkingFish> i've searched through /var/log and all the files in it, can't see anything blatantly obvious
[23:52] <virgilio> BarkingFish: I'm not sure. If you have support in kernel for that, you can try to use the sysrescue key
[23:52] <virgilio> BluesKaj: did it work?
[23:53] <BluesKaj> virgilio:  thanks , I should have recalled that , but my old memory fails me sometimes
[23:53] <BarkingFish> I don't have a sysrescue key
[23:53] <virgilio> BluesKaj: ur welcome
[23:54] <virgilio> BarkingFish: I can't help, but you should check new hardware or weird old hardware when kernel panics
[23:54] <BarkingFish> I have no new hardware or weird old hardware.  I know what I was doing when it panicked - and I am not aware of anything which has changed with those devices or the software concerned
[23:54] <virgilio> BarkingFish: also, try to do a memtest from grub loader
[23:55] <BarkingFish> My internet connection dropped, so I opened network manager, clicked on another connection to switch to it, and that's when it all went hairy
[23:56] <virgilio> BarkingFish: for me seems to be a hardware problem, but I can't be sure about that
[23:56] <BarkingFish> I have 3 wifi devices, one built in using ath5k, and 2 running windows fw with ndiswrapper
[23:56] <BarkingFish> i've checked the two on ndiswrapper, there is no native support for them
[23:56] <BarkingFish> one is an ar5523 chipset, the other is rtl8192cy
[23:56] <BarkingFish> *cu