[03:04] <yesitisjustme> anyone use wine?
[03:04] <Unit193> Some like beer more
[03:12] <yesitisjustme> i mean meam wine for linux
[03:13] <Unit193> Bad joke, what's the issue?
[03:16] <yesitisjustme> does msi extension work in wine?
[03:17] <Unit193> Kind of, but you need to change something
[03:18] <Unit193> First run   sudo apt-get install winetricks    then     sh winetricks msi2
[03:26] <yesitisjustme> wine tricks is needed for it to work?
[03:26] <yesitisjustme> ok
[03:27] <Unit193> Well, it's the quick and easy way
[04:48] <silverarrow> hi
[04:48] <JohnDoe_71Rus> Hi
[04:48] <silverarrow> anyone clever with firefox addon?
[04:48] <silverarrow> I am on to a bug in gnome mplayer
[05:18] <silverarrow> yesitisjustme, hi
[06:31] <JadedJacob> Good evening.
[06:32] <JadedJacob> What size do you guys use for your /root partition if you're not using a home partition?
[06:33] <bioterror> depends
[06:33] <bioterror> 10GB could be enough
[06:33] <M0hi> JadedJacob: what are the applications you install/use ? like somw web development or some other
[06:33] <bioterror> I would give maybe 15
[06:34] <M0hi> bioterror: 20 ? :P
[06:34] <JadedJacob> I'm setting up a triple boot for a friend.
[06:34] <bioterror> why?
[06:34] <JadedJacob> Vista (cringes) Lubuntu, and Opensuse 11.04
[06:34] <JadedJacob> They want to test out in linux
[06:35] <JadedJacob> So I'm installing lubuntu and opensuse for them.
[06:35] <JadedJacob> just basic internet and media use
[06:35] <JadedJacob> So I'll just install VLC Player and make sure flash player works and leave it at that.
[06:36] <M0hi> then 10 will do
[06:36] <JadedJacob> 80GB = 74GB as far as Gparted is concerned.
[06:36] <M0hi> 10 GB I mean
[06:36] <JadedJacob> 4gb for the vista recovery partition. so i gave vista 35GB, and I have 35GB left for linux
[06:37] <JadedJacob> How about 15GB for each distro, and 5GB for the swap file?
[06:39] <M0hi> JadedJacob: 10 GB is enough for lubuntu. Its upto you to give more memory
[06:45] <silverarrow> is gnome mplayer freeze, a lubuntu issue
[06:45] <silverarrow> knows bug?
[06:45] <silverarrow> known bug*
[06:45] <silverarrow> bioterror?
[06:46] <bioterror> http://launchpad.net/
[06:47] <bioterror> you can search for gnome player
[06:47] <M0hi> silverarrow: is the other players also having the same issue? If not, register a bug in launchpad.net as bioterror mentioned
[06:47] <M0hi> but under gnome player and not under lubuntu
[06:48] <silverarrow> no only mplayer, vlc doesn't cause freeze-up, but then again will not work
[06:48] <silverarrow> vlc, works on some stuff
[06:49] <JadedJacob> Thanks M0hi
[06:50] <M0hi> no probs JadedJacob  =]
[06:51] <JadedJacob> Now I just have to work whether to use 10GB for each distro, and then a 10GB as a shared storage partition.
[06:51] <JadedJacob> OR
[06:52] <JadedJacob> 15GB per distro and mount points to each distro's user dir :)
[06:53] <bioterror> you should use all the 80GB for Lubuntu.
[06:53] <bioterror> next! ;D
[06:54] <JadedJacob> ;)
[07:01] <M0hi> bioterror: :P
[07:02] <silverarrow> it's always a bit daft with bugs, nobody wants them. I don't think it's a mplayer issue / I do think it's an mplayer issue
[07:03] <bioterror> then backtrace that gnome mplayer
[07:03] <bioterror> install all the dev -packages for mplayer and gnome-mplayer
[07:03] <bioterror> you get more specific data
[07:04] <silverarrow> maybe related ? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/chromium-browser/+bug/788430
[07:05] <silverarrow> I get it in firefox to with the video flash replacer addon
[07:05] <silverarrow> which is mplayer
[07:13] <IAmNotThatGuy> silverarrow: mplayer and flash player drivers has no link. Try VLC/ some other movie players please
[07:17] <silverarrow> vlc do not freeze, I have it, but it will not play like mplayer
[07:18] <IAmNotThatGuy> then find mplayer devs and ask for the help regarding this silverarrow
[07:19] <IAmNotThatGuy> hyperair: remove the ',' in the topic after "Welcome to lubuntu"
[07:20]  * IAmNotThatGuy gives work to hyperair 
[07:21] <hyperair> um what ,?
[07:21] <IAmNotThatGuy> hyperair: in priv msg
[07:21] <hyperair> IAmNotThatGuy: i don't see any priv msg..
[07:22] <silverarrow> if I install smplayer from package manger will it somehow affect default gnome mplayer?
[07:22] <IAmNotThatGuy> hyperair: PM
[07:22] <hyperair> okay, just saw it
[07:22] <IAmNotThatGuy> silverarrow: No
[07:22] <IAmNotThatGuy> you should be careful only at the time of removal
[07:23] <silverarrow> that could potentially muck up the experiment
[07:25]  * IAmNotThatGuy didn't do that hyperair :P
[07:26]  * hyperair didn't do that to IAmNotThatGuy 
[07:26] <IAmNotThatGuy> lol
[07:28] <IAmNotThatGuy> hyperair: -offtopic
[07:59] <silverarrow> it is a chore to address bugs
[08:08] <CARCASS> hi people, I need suggestion about synaptic in lubuntu 11.04: I can't remove packages marked as "not installed, residual config". I mark them to completely remove, but the apply button is not active.
[08:08] <silverarrow> hi
[08:09] <silverarrow> who asked me to install gecko?
[08:09] <silverarrow> I have installed two packages from suggested packages. I have mucked up some functions
[08:10] <silverarrow> is it easy to revert to previous state?
[08:10] <silverarrow> I regret it big time
[08:11] <bioterror> Wed02:42*<micahg> silverarrow: I'd suggest just installing gecko-mediaplayer from -proposed and then removing it if your risk tolerance is low
[08:11] <bioterror> Wed02:43*<micahg> silverarrow: removing -proposed, not gecko-mediaplyer
[08:11] <silverarrow> I installed lib6 something
[08:12] <silverarrow> stupid me
[08:13] <silverarrow> it did mess up
[08:13] <silverarrow> the gecko package
[08:14] <silverarrow> if I run package manager will it detect and remove them?
[08:17] <silverarrow> I could shoot my self in the foot
[08:17] <silverarrow> i cannot stream online tv
[08:18] <bioterror> :(
[08:20] <silverarrow> a bit stupid too
[08:20] <silverarrow> what was I thinking the package would be good for?
[08:20] <bioterror> it's a nice thing that my service proviced offers us a XBMC plugin to watch stored tv shows from their clould service
[08:21] <silverarrow> freeze issues are more than enough
[08:21] <bioterror> I can just WoL my HTPC, start the plugin and choose what I've stored and watch it
[08:22] <bioterror> so maybe you should consider a better service for your online tv?
[08:22] <silverarrow> I was rather happy with gnome mplayer gecko and chromium, is streamed online tv, direct too
[08:22] <silverarrow> yes maybe
[08:22] <bioterror> we have one channel that has webpage full of silverlight
[08:23] <silverarrow> I have moonlight
[08:23] <silverarrow> I have a feeling this is never going to be reversed
[08:24] <silverarrow> maybe next time I install lubuntu,
[08:24] <silverarrow> when does lubuntu 12 come?
[08:24] <silverarrow> or 11.10, what ever they call it
[08:27] <Unit193> Think about that, it's based on release date (version numbers)
[08:54] <silverarrow> Unit193, thanks, obvious really lol
[08:55] <silverarrow> I heard rumors there's a release in October
[08:56] <silverarrow> I really wish there was a way to reverse newly installed packages
[09:57] <meway> why is my desktop showing multiple things open when there is only 1 thing open? (when closing they all close)
[09:57] <bioterror> for example?
[09:58] <meway> well my time wireless and sound is not in the correct spot (to the right of the screen) and I open xchat and I see multiples going across the bottom
[09:58] <bioterror> ah notification area
[09:59] <meway> oh that helps xD
[09:59] <meway> ty
[09:59] <meway> <- feels like a tard :)
[10:03] <Unit193> Try saying /me feels like a tard ;)
[10:06] <meway> :p
[10:07]  * meway tard the new Pokemon 
[10:50] <M0hi> Unit193: LOL
[12:56] <Jaded-> Is there a special way that I need to install Vlc player on lubuntu compared to ubuntu pure?
[12:56] <bioterror> sudo apt-get install vlc
[14:37] <micahg> hmm...moonlight in natty also needs testing in natty-proposed, I missed that too...
[15:21] <tomeo> Why does the Lubuntu installer create three partitions?
[15:21] <tomeo> I get sda1, sda2 and sda5 where sda2 is primary and sda5 is swap
[15:21] <tomeo> I dont understand what sda1 is
[15:54] <morri> hi guys, I have forcefully downgraded my firefox back to 4 because I didnt like the 5 or 6 browser, but now it appears always in update manager, how do I make it that the update manager ignores firefox?
[16:00] <Soojin> morri: inside synaptics you can lock packages
[16:01] <Soojin> under Package -> Lock/Force (I have swedish lubuntu so i don't know quite what it says in the english version;) )
[16:11] <morri> cool thanks Soojin
[17:23] <silverarrow> is there a way to revert to a previous update?
[19:17] <silverarrow> what kind of players and media drivers are default in lubuntu?
[19:18] <silverarrow> I am thinking of removing all extras, en reinstall
[19:19] <Unit193> !info lubuntu-core
[19:19] <silverarrow> I have 11.04
[19:20] <silverarrow> I messed up my mediaplayer, some kind of gecko or plugin mess
[19:20] <Unit193> What exactly are you looking for? Sounded like you didn't want default programs
[19:20] <silverarrow> oh sorry, I am very happy with default
[19:21] <silverarrow> and extras
[19:21] <silverarrow> for a while everything worked fairly well
[19:21] <silverarrow> I installed two proposed packages yesterday and they messed up online stream tv
[19:22] <silverarrow> I  don't know if it is repairable
[19:22] <silverarrow> I am hoping
[19:23] <silverarrow> streaming in mplayer stopped working
[19:23] <silverarrow> so, it's really difficult to trace the packages? or latest updates?
[19:23] <Unit193> Ok, disable the repo then open the terminal and type   sudo apt-get update    and     sudo apt-get reinstall {packages messed up}
[19:24] <silverarrow> yes, I did disable the proposed stuff
[19:26] <silverarrow> can you make sense out of this? http://pastebin.com/uKAHCccu
[19:27] <Unit193> You need to actually secect the package name >.<
[19:27] <silverarrow> sudo apt-get reinstall invalid operation
[19:29] <silverarrow> definitely a challenge
[19:29] <silverarrow> god knows what I have installed
[19:29] <silverarrow> he has probably no idea either
[19:29] <Unit193> Oh, wrong program for that :P sudo apt-get uninstall [package]   than    sudo apt-get install [package]
[19:31] <silverarrow> I have to google what packages I installed
[19:32] <silverarrow> I followed a guide for medibuntu I think with added gecko/mplayer/and windows media plugins
[19:49] <micahg> silverarrow: I forgot to mention that a new moonlight is waiting in natty-proposed as well
[19:57] <silverarrow> and how will it work?
[19:57] <silverarrow> I'm not shore I even know if can use moolight, when I have mplayer and gecko
[20:00] <silverarrow> situation now is that tv streams loads, caches, and play for a second then aborts
[20:00] <silverarrow> I'm shore something is interfering with the main driver or plugin
[20:02] <silverarrow> it looks like moonlight mozilla plugin should stream tv
[20:03] <silverarrow> i've had enough for today I think
[20:03] <silverarrow> I'm not getting any where
[20:04] <silverarrow> I suspect I have double up some kind of plugin or driver and the interfere
[20:07] <silverarrow> micahg, the gecko package messed up
[20:07] <micahg> with Firefox 6?
[20:08] <silverarrow> no, with chromium, but it didn't work in firefox 6 either, or before
[20:08] <silverarrow> in chromium I could stream tv with mplayer fine
[20:08] <silverarrow> firefox never did
[20:09] <silverarrow> I have no good explanation for it
[20:19] <silverarrow> micahg, firefox is the preferred browser these days?
[20:19] <silverarrow> I tried to stick with chromium, because it was default
[20:20] <micahg> silverarrow: depends in which derivative
[20:20] <micahg> you're free to use whatever you like, I happen to be the one pushing through updates in the stable releases for both Firefox and Chromium
[20:21] <silverarrow> it's all right, I installed Firefox because of the flash video replacer
[20:22] <silverarrow> work well
[20:22] <silverarrow> but I lost tv stream
[20:23] <silverarrow> I am sure it is a minor issue
[20:24] <silverarrow> like double up drivers, but I cannot find any clue to how or where they should be lined up
[20:28] <gumus> hi all
[20:28] <gumus>  I need to transform a subtitle's code to utf-8 .Because local letters are not legible at the moment. I used to write a command like  -f iso... -t utf-8  file.srt > file1.srt. But I don't remember it exactly. Can anyone help me with that?
[20:31] <silverarrow> tricky
[20:33] <gumus> oh found it
[20:33] <gumus> iconv
[20:39] <meway> how do I set a background?
[20:44] <meway> how do I set an image as a background in lubuntu?
[20:45] <meway> out of 43 people everybody is afk?
[21:41] <Soojin> heh
[21:41] <Soojin> kids these days
[22:12] <jeffcutsinger> Is there something special I need to do to use a different wm? I changed the setting in lxsession-edit, and it's still using openbox.
[23:23] <jeffcutsinger> For whatever reason, lxsession-edit was writing its configuration changes to the LXDE session instead of the Lubuntu session. Copying directory over made it work.
[23:46] <silverarrow> I have discovered where the annoying popups come from
[23:46] <silverarrow> I blamed chromium for being bad with popups, but it i IsoHunt
[23:47] <silverarrow> IH have these nasty banners with blinking adverts and popups that appear in a new window