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| pitti | Good morning | 04:04 |
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| pitti | dobey, hyperair: FWIW, we _did_ discuss how to do major U1 upgrades through SRU | 04:06 |
| pitti | TheMuso: is that Gdk GType problem new, i. e. a regression since the last GTK upload, or has always been there? | 04:06 |
| TheMuso | pitti: I don't know about how long its been there. Are you referring to bug 769256? | 04:07 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 769256 in gtk+3.0 "Gdk enumerations do not contain GType info in GIR" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/769256 | 04:07 |
| TheMuso | pitti: This bug has only really popped up now as being serious since accerciser and orca moved to gobject introspection/GTK3. | 04:08 |
| pitti | TheMuso: ah, ok; anyway, I'll compare it to natty's .girs, to see whether it was a recent regression or just am missing thing in pygobject | 04:09 |
| pitti | err, g-i | 04:09 |
| TheMuso | ok | 04:09 |
| didrocks | good morning | 05:37 |
| BigWhale | what he said. | 05:39 |
| pitti | bonjour didrocks | 05:40 |
| TheMuso | Morning didrocks. | 05:40 |
| didrocks | guten morgen pitti, how are you? | 05:40 |
| didrocks | hey TheMuso :) | 05:41 |
| pitti | didrocks: I'm fine, thanks! | 05:41 |
| BigWhale | Is anyone here running Gwibber? | 05:46 |
| rickspencer3 | good morning pitti, didrocks, et al | 05:55 |
| rickspencer3 | I hope everyone is doing very well today | 05:56 |
| didrocks | hey rickspencer3, how are you? | 05:56 |
| rickspencer3 | didrocks, doing well | 05:56 |
| rickspencer3 | today is kinda big day for me | 05:56 |
| rickspencer3 | 20th wedding anniversary! | 05:57 |
| rickspencer3 | didrocks, how about you? | 05:57 |
| didrocks | rickspencer3: oh, happy birthday to you and your wife then, congratulation :) | 05:57 |
| rickspencer3 | hehe | 05:58 |
| micahg | rickspencer3: congrats! | 05:58 |
| rickspencer3 | nice translation | 05:58 |
| rickspencer3 | thanks micahg | 05:58 |
| rickspencer3 | we're celebrating with the kids this evening with pizza and bowling, and then a proper celebration on Friday | 05:58 |
| didrocks | rickspencer3: I'm fine as well, hoping today will be less busy than the past few ones. Crossing fingers :) | 05:58 |
| rickspencer3 | didrocks, bon chance | 05:59 |
| didrocks | rickspencer3: how are you kids getting used to France? not too lost? | 05:59 |
| rickspencer3 | didrocks, they are fine | 05:59 |
| rickspencer3 | kids are adaptable | 05:59 |
| rickspencer3 | and their school is in English | 05:59 |
| didrocks | pitti: you asked for some stats on software-center, it seems that the income of "new bugs" is not higher since the gtk3 version: http://status.qa.ubuntu.com/qapkgstatus/software-center | 05:59 |
| didrocks | rickspencer3: did the new year started last Monday, as other French school? | 06:00 |
| pitti | didrocks: oh, nice! I keep forgetting about all these graphs :) | 06:00 |
| pitti | hey rickspencer3, how are you? | 06:00 |
| rickspencer3 | didrocks, last Thursday, actually | 06:00 |
| pitti | rickspencer3: ooh, congrats to your 20th anniversary! | 06:00 |
| rickspencer3 | thanks pitti | 06:00 |
| pitti | rickspencer3: do your kids learn some French as well? | 06:01 |
| rickspencer3 | pitti, they are starting | 06:03 |
| rickspencer3 | pitti, my daughter has French and German language classes | 06:03 |
| rickspencer3 | and our new neighbors are german with a girl my exactly my daughter's age | 06:03 |
| rickspencer3 | AND the orchestra my daughter is in is combined with the German school | 06:03 |
| rickspencer3 | so, I wouldn't be surprised if she ends up with more German than French after this year ;) | 06:04 |
| pitti | nice! they should pick it up in no time then | 06:07 |
| Sweetshark | morning. | 06:25 |
| didrocks | hey Sweetshark | 06:26 |
| pitti | hey Sweetshark | 06:26 |
| robert_ancell | pitti, I need to do a ffe for unity-greeter, should I open a master bug for this? | 07:05 |
| pitti | robert_ancell: if there's already a bug for the thing you want to add, use that one | 07:06 |
| robert_ancell | there's about 10... | 07:06 |
| pitti | robert_ancell: hm, use one of them and give the numbers to the other ones perhaps? | 07:06 |
| pitti | robert_ancell: but as you like, it doesn't matter much | 07:06 |
| chrisccoulson | good morning everyone | 07:37 |
| pitti | hey chrisccoulson | 07:37 |
| chrisccoulson | hi pitti, how are you? | 07:37 |
| didrocks | good morning chrisccoulson! | 07:37 |
| chrisccoulson | hi didrocks | 07:37 |
| czajkowski | morning | 08:03 |
| czajkowski | has anyone had any experience of apport crashing on them? it knows something has failed yet cannot get itself right to report the bug ? | 08:04 |
| pitti | czajkowski: I did a fix for that yesterday or Monday | 08:04 |
| czajkowski | pitti: did you :) ohh | 08:05 |
| czajkowski | I reported the bug yesterday | 08:05 |
| czajkowski | doing some updates now | 08:05 |
| pitti | czajkowski: if you have all updates from today, and it still happens, please run it from a terminal and give me the stack trace | 08:05 |
| czajkowski | so *hopefully* will do it | 08:05 |
| czajkowski | pitti: will do, thanks | 08:05 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: are you going to do a new upload of thunderbird-gnome-support soon? | 08:09 |
| chrisccoulson | pitti - what for? | 08:09 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: it uses some NBS libs like libdbusmenu-gtk3, libebook1.2-11, libedataserver1.2-14 | 08:09 |
| pitti | these three | 08:09 |
| chrisccoulson | oh, did i forgeto to update those? i actually fixed the extensions to load the new libs, but must have forgotten to update those dependencies | 08:10 |
| chrisccoulson | i need to find a way to automate that ;) | 08:10 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: oh, don't you build-dep on the -dev packages? | 08:10 |
| chrisccoulson | pitti - no, these libs are used with ctypes from JS, so they're basically dlopen'd at runtime | 08:10 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: but you could build-dep on the -dev packages and then create the binary dependencies dynamically? | 08:11 |
| rodrigo_ | morning | 08:11 |
| pitti | hey rodrigo_, how are you? | 08:11 |
| chrisccoulson | pitti - yeah, possibly | 08:11 |
| rodrigo_ | hi pitti, chrisccoulson | 08:12 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: anyway, it's the last or pre-last main package which has NBS problems | 08:12 |
| chrisccoulson | pitti - oh, how up-to-date is that information? | 08:13 |
| chrisccoulson | it looks like i already fixed it | 08:13 |
| pitti | http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/nbs.html | 08:13 |
| pitti | shoudl run every hour actually | 08:13 |
| pitti | 07-Sep-2011 08:00 52K | 08:14 |
| pitti | seems reasonably current (this is DC time) | 08:14 |
| pitti | it's 08:14 in the DC | 08:14 |
| chrisccoulson | pitti - http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/thunderbird/thunderbird-beta.head/revision/345 and http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/thunderbird/thunderbird-beta.head/revision/346 | 08:14 |
| pitti | hm, werid | 08:15 |
| pitti | indeed, apt-cache show has the current one | 08:15 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: thanks, I'll investigate | 08:15 |
| chrisccoulson | thanks | 08:16 |
| rodrigo_ | pitti, you didn't sponsor https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+source/evolution-rss/+bug/773763 , is it because there's anything missing from my side? | 08:19 |
| ubot2` | Ubuntu bug 773763 in evolution-rss "evolution freeze on startup with the plug-in "evolution-rss"" [High,In progress] | 08:19 |
| seb128 | hey | 08:19 |
| rodrigo_ | bonjour seb128 | 08:19 |
| seb128 | hey rodrigo_, how are you? | 08:20 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, ça va bien, et toi? :) | 08:20 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, doh, my spanish is not good enough to reply to that! I'm good thanks ;-) | 08:21 |
| rodrigo_ | :D | 08:21 |
| didrocks | salut seb128 | 08:21 |
| didrocks | good morning rodrigo_ | 08:22 |
| seb128 | lut didrocks | 08:22 |
| rodrigo_ | salut didrocks | 08:22 |
| seb128 | ok, over 300 emails during the night in my bugs box I was going to complain | 08:22 |
| seb128 | but half of it is the janitor which cleaned old bugs | 08:22 |
| pitti | hey seb128 | 08:22 |
| seb128 | so that's ok ;-) | 08:22 |
| seb128 | hey pitti | 08:22 |
| didrocks | seb128: filtering filtering! :) | 08:22 |
| seb128 | didrocks, yeah ;-) | 08:22 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, if you get g-c-c work done maybe only upload around the end of the day | 08:23 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, oh, why? | 08:23 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, seems we do 3-4 g-c-c uploads a day, we could probably batch a bit in the vcs before uploading | 08:23 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, well, if you know other fixes will come the same day maybe no need to push several updates to buildds and users | 08:24 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, yes, it's because I'm going through the bug list, and don't know what the next bug is | 08:24 |
| seb128 | i.e spare some buildds time and bandwith ;-) | 08:24 |
| rodrigo_ | but yes, will keep the branch UNRELEASED until the end of the day | 08:24 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, it's not only you, I did an upload as well yesterday ;-) | 08:24 |
| rodrigo_ | ok | 08:24 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, well not a strict rule, but if you think it's likely another fix will come in the next 2 hours better to way and batch | 08:25 |
| rodrigo_ | yeah, right | 08:25 |
| pitti | seb128: btw, do you know why versions shows the glib upstream version as 1.2.x? | 08:29 |
| pitti | seb128: it seems the "stable" version is 2.90.x, and the "unstable" version is 1.2.x | 08:29 |
| pitti | seb128: but this thing confuses me, it pulls from people.gnome.org/~vuntz/tmp/versions/versions-unstable for both the stable and the unstable dictionary | 08:29 |
| pitti | so I don't obviously see where it takes the 1.2.x from | 08:30 |
| czajkowski | pitti: still happening ;( | 08:34 |
| czajkowski | I've done todays updates/upgrade and restarted and as sooon as I open up anything the apport thingy pops up but doesn't go anywhere | 08:34 |
| pitti | czajkowski: can you run "apport-bug" in a terminal? does that work? | 08:35 |
| czajkowski | let me see | 08:36 |
| czajkowski | pitti: You need to specify a package or a PID. See --help for more information. | 08:36 |
| czajkowski | dialogue box pops up | 08:36 |
| pitti | err, what? | 08:37 |
| Laney | are you talking about the infinitely respawning apport dialog of doom? | 08:37 |
| pitti | czajkowski: is that running GNOME or KDE? | 08:37 |
| czajkowski | Laney: yes! | 08:37 |
| czajkowski | pitti: Gnome | 08:37 |
| pitti | apport-bug should print nothign and just ask you which symptom you have | 08:37 |
| Laney | I've had that too, apport-bug works | 08:38 |
| Laney | then again I xkilled it to make it stop | 08:38 |
| pitti | Laney: any stack trace? can you run it from a terminal? | 08:39 |
| pitti | simplest: "apport-bug", if that doesn't crash, run apport-bug /var/crash/something.. | 08:39 |
| doko_ | mterry, pitti: python-mocker needs a MIR, and a conversion from python-support | 08:40 |
| pitti | yep, seen already | 08:40 |
| Tommeh | The following packages will be REMOVED | 08:40 |
| Tommeh | libegl1-mesa libegl1-mesa-drivers | 08:40 |
| Tommeh | The following packages will be upgraded: | 08:40 |
| Tommeh | libwayland0 | 08:40 |
| Tommeh | Eep. | 08:41 |
| pitti | Tommeh: seems ok? | 08:41 |
| czajkowski | pitti: http://twitpic.com/6h9pzd/full and http://twitpic.com/6h9qej/full | 08:41 |
| Tommeh | Does libwayland0 really replace libegl & drivers? :/ | 08:41 |
| pitti | czajkowski: ok, this looks utterly utterly wrong | 08:42 |
| czajkowski | pitti: welcome to my last 3 days | 08:42 |
| czajkowski | I just pretend it's not there any more | 08:42 |
| pitti | czajkowski: can you please run sh -ex /usr/bin/apport-bug and pastebin? | 08:42 |
| czajkowski | sure | 08:42 |
| pitti | czajkowski: do you see anything else on stderr when you run apport-bug? | 08:43 |
| pitti | ah, no | 08:43 |
| Laney | pitti: it's probably something auto-respawning and crashing; apport pops up again after I cancel its previous dialog | 08:43 |
| vuntz | pitti: the glib thing is there to enable people who track both glib 2.x and glib 1.x | 08:43 |
| pitti | vuntz: yes, that seems fine; it's a little weird that 1.2 is unstable and 2.9.x stable, but either way, it's a bug in the script which generates our versions.html | 08:44 |
| pitti | Laney, czajkowski: first, please remove all /var/crash/* and killall update-notifier | 08:44 |
| pitti | to avoid the automatic popups get in the way | 08:44 |
| vuntz | pitti: well, versions-unstable doesn't track unstable version | 08:45 |
| vuntz | pitti: it tracks versions of all software in all interesting branches, for the 3.1.x development cycle | 08:45 |
| czajkowski | done | 08:45 |
| vuntz | pitti: which includes the glib 1.2.x branch | 08:46 |
| vuntz | pitti: but I'll be the first to admit it's a bit confusing :-) | 08:46 |
| czajkowski | pitti: http://paste.ubuntu.com/684214/ | 08:46 |
| pitti | czajkowski: what happens on /usr/share/apport/apport-gtk -f | 08:48 |
| czajkowski | pitti: what do you mean, sorry | 08:49 |
| pitti | czajkowski: if you run "/usr/share/apport/apport-gtk -f" | 08:49 |
| pitti | what happen? | 08:50 |
| czajkowski | ah ok sorry | 08:50 |
| czajkowski | it's early | 08:50 |
| czajkowski | pitti: you need to specify a package or a PID. See --help for more information. pops up again | 08:50 |
| glatzor | hello pitti, do you have got any idea why the widgets in the gtk3 expander are so small? I tried resize and different sizes already, lp #739647 | 08:53 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 739647 in aptdaemon "Update manager error window is too small to read and is not resizable." [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/739647 | 08:53 |
| pitti | czajkowski, glatzor: on the phone, bbl | 08:57 |
| czajkowski | pitti: no worries | 08:58 |
| === chrisccoulson_ is now known as chrisccoulson | ||
| jasoncwarner_ | didrocks: hey...I was having SHIFT+ALT+TAB probs today so I did a unity --reset | 09:06 |
| jasoncwarner_ | now I can't CTRL+ALT+T for terminal...is that related? | 09:06 |
| didrocks | jasoncwarner_: hey, no, it's not related, this key is hosted by metacity | 09:06 |
| didrocks | jasoncwarner_: are you up to date? I pushed some fixes for ctrl + Alt + T yesterday, if so, you can reset it in g-c-c | 09:07 |
| jasoncwarner_ | didrocks: I am...as of 2 hours ago (updating now) | 09:07 |
| didrocks | jasoncwarner_: should be fine, opened g-c-c, keyboard, shortcuts, launchers | 09:07 |
| kamstrup | jasoncwarner_: hi - that zeitgeistbug you tweeted... any special way to reproduce? | 09:08 |
| didrocks | jasoncwarner_: and you have "launch a terminal" there | 09:08 |
| didrocks | jasoncwarner_: if you set it back (which is the default now), it should be fine | 09:08 |
| jasoncwarner_ | kamstrup: log in ;) | 09:08 |
| kamstrup | jasoncwarner_: uh, i tried hat once ;-) | 09:08 |
| jasoncwarner_ | kamstrup: that is all I really do. I just boot up (I usually do that after I update just to be sure) | 09:08 |
| pitti | czajkowski: do you have apport-symptoms installed? | 09:08 |
| kamstrup | jasoncwarner_: thing is that this stack trace is crazy! :-) | 09:08 |
| pitti | czajkowski: or, trying differently, does this work: /usr/share/apport/apport-gtk -f -p coreutils | 09:09 |
| jasoncwarner_ | kamstrup: anyhting you want me to try to reproduce? I typically get it just by rebooting ;) | 09:09 |
| didrocks | can't it be the "shutdown" issue? is the timestamp really the one when logging in? | 09:09 |
| kamstrup | jasoncwarner_: if you can confirm you get it fairly often I have an updated module you can manually install... | 09:10 |
| pitti | Laney: do you get a stack trace when you run "apport-bug coreutils"? | 09:10 |
| czajkowski | pitti: gimmie a tic and I'll let you know. Thanks for the help btw. | 09:10 |
| Laney | pitti: no, but I just re-logged-in and didn't get the usual infinite dialog | 09:11 |
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| pitti | chrisccoulson: ah, NBS updated, now it's only on powerpc (which hasn't built yet) | 09:14 |
| jasoncwarner_ | kamstrup: I'll do that a bit later...or perhaps send me link...I have a bunch of calls to make tonight before I do anything reckless with my computer :) | 09:14 |
| chrisccoulson | pitti - excellent, thanks :) | 09:14 |
| czajkowski | pitti: running the above allowed me to get apport to report a bug ! | 09:14 |
| pitti | czajkowski: ok, but didn't trigger a crash | 09:14 |
| pitti | czajkowski: ok, next experiment: | 09:14 |
| pitti | sh -c 'kill -SEGV $$' | 09:14 |
| pitti | apport-bug /var/crash/_bin_dash*.crash | 09:15 |
| czajkowski | ok that caused a crash | 09:15 |
| czajkowski | :/ | 09:15 |
| czajkowski | sorry the program 'Dash' | 09:16 |
| kamstrup | jasoncwarner_: ok - here goes - try it when you have time: "rm -rf /usr/share/zeitgeist/_zeitgeist/engine/extensions/fts.*" then download http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~zeitgeist-extensions/zeitgeist-extensions/trunk/view/head:/fts/fts.py and copy it into place "sudo cp fts.py /usr/share/zeitgeist/_zeitgeist/engine/extensions/" and reboot and do your thing | 09:16 |
| seb128 | pitti, seems you have a busy morning, ping me when other discussions you have started settle and you have a quiet time ;-) | 09:17 |
| jasoncwarner_ | seb128: Pitti has quiet time? I highly doubt that! ;) | 09:17 |
| seb128 | pitti, nothing important, I want to check if you read the backlog or notice the gir gtk bug the a11y pointed yesterday | 09:18 |
| pitti | seb128: yes, I got that in my mbox, I'll look at it today | 09:18 |
| seb128 | jasoncwarner_, yeah, I was thinking the same ;-) "quiet" might not be the right word :p "less crazy" would be better ;-) | 09:18 |
| pitti | seb128: I have my 1-on-1 with jasoncwarner_ soon, then I can hopefully get to that | 09:18 |
| rodrigo_ | pitti, is there any way to trigger a retrace for a bug? | 09:19 |
| pitti | czajkowski: yes, it was meant to crash "dash" :) | 09:19 |
| seb128 | pitti, ok thanks, seems also that the glib,gtk documentation is having issue, I saw you tweaked the builds for those so I wanted to check if you had a clue about that as well, not hurry there either | 09:19 |
| pitti | czajkowski: did you get a crash/backtrace for apport-gtk? | 09:19 |
| pitti | rodrigo_: did the previous one fail, or did it not get to it yet? | 09:19 |
| czajkowski | pitti: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dash/+bug/843711 | 09:19 |
| ubot2` | Ubuntu bug 843711 in dash "dash crashed with SIGSEGV in __kernel_vsyscall()" [Undecided,New] | 09:19 |
| pitti | seb128: well, "tweak" -- it seems that with some new upstream versions, --enable-gtk-doc isn't the default any more, so I had to turn that on explicitly | 09:19 |
| seb128 | didrocks, thanks for doing GNOME updates ;-) | 09:19 |
| pitti | czajkowski: oh, you reported it? | 09:20 |
| didrocks | seb128: yw :-) | 09:20 |
| pitti | czajkowski: I'll invalidate that crash then | 09:20 |
| czajkowski | pitti: sorry :( | 09:20 |
| rodrigo_ | pitti, it did it in a weird way -> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-settings-daemon/+bug/832160 it doesn't correspond to the crash | 09:20 |
| ubot2` | rodrigo_: Error: <Bugtracker.plugin.Launchpad instance at 0x8d65a2c> bug 832160 not found | 09:20 |
| pitti | czajkowski: no problem :) | 09:20 |
| rodrigo_ | also, not sure why that bug is private | 09:20 |
| pitti | czajkowski: so, I still wonder what part of apport actually crashes for you then | 09:20 |
| seb128 | pitti, we should maybe not build the documentation and ship the html files from the tarball, I will check on that | 09:21 |
| seb128 | pitti, I'm looking at rodrigo_'s bug | 09:21 |
| pitti | rodrigo_: ah, so retracing failed | 09:21 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, what pitti said | 09:21 |
| czajkowski | pitti: yeah tis kinda annoying last night in the middle of EMEA my system frize with the menu bar going across the screen for alt tabbing through applications and I couldnt run apport then. but today I could at least get that bug to report | 09:21 |
| rodrigo_ | yeah | 09:21 |
| pitti | seb128: oh, that's why it's not built any more? but shouldn't 'make install' install the shipped html files then? | 09:21 |
| pitti | czajkowski: so, I guess you need to wait until you get that crash again, and then toss me the /var/crash/_usr_lib_apport_*.crash | 09:22 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, btw I think those are what the glib patch desrt commited yesterday and pitti backported today should fix | 09:22 |
| czajkowski | wil do | 09:22 |
| pitti | czajkowski: thanks | 09:22 |
| czajkowski | pitti: thanks for your help, I appreciate it | 09:22 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, oh, really? there are tons of duplicates / similar bugs | 09:22 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, what's the # for the one desrt and pitti fixed? | 09:22 |
| pitti | czajkowski: no worries; if it still crashes for people, I certainly want to know and fix it | 09:22 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, i.e 657241 on bugzilla | 09:23 |
| rodrigo_ | ok | 09:23 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, I didn't do proper bug number tracking | 09:24 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, I'll do it now, I've got several similar bugs assigned to me | 09:24 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, from the gtk channel yesterday | 09:25 |
| seb128 | sept. 06 16:27:45 <hadess>desrt, look at that nice trace: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/page.cgi?id=trace.html&trace_id=228185 | 09:25 |
| seb128 | sept. 06 16:32:58 <desrt>ya. there's clearly some g_main_context_invoke() action missing here somewhere | 09:26 |
| seb128 | sept. 06 16:34:52 <desrt>hadess: i've a few things to tend to already today, but i'll try to look at it before the evening is out | 09:26 |
| seb128 | sept. 06 19:32:22 <desrt>hadess: totally stupid mistake on my part responsible for this crash | 09:26 |
| seb128 | sept. 06 19:32:37 <desrt>i made all of the change notify functions safe except for one | 09:26 |
| seb128 | sept. 06 19:32:49 <desrt>which only happens when multiple keys are changed at the same time, and even then only sometimes | 09:26 |
| seb128 | 09:26 | |
| pitti | rodrigo_: you asked me to look at bug 773763; do you just need sponsoring for the SRU, or is there something to be done for oneriic? | 09:26 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 773763 in evolution-rss "evolution freeze on startup with the plug-in "evolution-rss"" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/773763 | 09:26 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, the patch pitti backported with today update is supposed to address that | 09:26 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, so, have we confirmed it fixes the issue? | 09:27 |
| rodrigo_ | pitti, just the SRU | 09:27 |
| pitti | rodrigo_: ack | 09:27 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, desrt thinks it fixes but since we have no testcase I agreed that we would backport the fix and see if bugs stop coming | 09:27 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, so we are there now "wait to see if they stop coming" ;-) | 09:27 |
| rodrigo_ | ok, I'll keep them all open | 09:27 |
| rodrigo_ | there are a lot of very similar ones | 09:27 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, well, put them in incomplete asking to try with the current glib? | 09:27 |
| rodrigo_ | yeah, right | 09:28 |
| seb128 | thanks | 09:28 |
| rodrigo_ | the glib update is 2.9.90, right? | 09:28 |
| seb128 | they are all xcb errors right? | 09:28 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, correct | 09:28 |
| rodrigo_ | btw, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-settings-daemon/+bug/804896 always gives me a timeout error | 09:29 |
| ubot2` | Ubuntu bug 804896 in gnome-settings-daemon "gnome-settings-daemon assert failure: gnome-settings-daemon: ../../src/xcb_io.c:140: dequeue_pending_request: Assertion `req == dpy->xcb->pending_requests' failed." [High,Triaged] | 09:29 |
| rodrigo_ | can anyone try and mark it as incomplete if it works for you? | 09:29 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, try adding +edit to the url? | 09:30 |
| rodrigo_ | oh, ok | 09:30 |
| seb128 | +editstatus rather | 09:30 |
| rodrigo_ | yeah, +edit is just for the summary and description | 09:30 |
| seb128 | that usually workaround timeouts from loading the mainpage | 09:30 |
| rodrigo_ | it does, yeah! | 09:30 |
| seb128 | ;-) | 09:30 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, I'm sure you will be glad if that's indeed fixed with that glib update because you were so looking forward debugging those :p | 09:31 |
| rodrigo_ | yeah | 09:31 |
| rodrigo_ | I can't stop jumping of joy if that's fixed :) | 09:32 |
| rodrigo_ | if that fixes it, I mean :) | 09:32 |
| ronoc | pitti, hey i released yesterday with the new gsettings entry to hide the user menu | 09:41 |
| ronoc | did you see that ? | 09:41 |
| ronoc | key is called 'user-show-menu' | 09:41 |
| ronoc | in the i-session gsettings schema | 09:41 |
| AfC | 'dconf' directories keep appearing all over the place, apparently whenever I start Nautilus or Gedit! | 09:43 |
| seb128 | ronoc, btw I fail to see how that fix the "invalid utf-8" bug | 09:43 |
| ronoc | seb128, was it not the idea that casper would set this value to false before starting the i-session-service which in turn would then hide the menu by default | 09:44 |
| * ronoc checks code | 09:44 | |
| seb128 | ronoc, right, but there is still a bug somewhere, if displayed the indicator should get a valid username and not "invalid utf-8" | 09:45 |
| seb128 | ronoc, even if the bug is workarounded by hidding the indicator | 09:45 |
| ronoc | seb128, the only instance we get a invalid utf8 on the panel now is in the case of the live cd | 09:45 |
| ronoc | seb128, for guests I have fixed it | 09:45 |
| seb128 | well still it seems like on the livecd case you should get the real username, i.e ubuntu | 09:46 |
| ronoc | beforehand | 09:46 |
| seb128 | but probably not worth arguing if the menu is not showed on the livecd | 09:46 |
| ronoc | seb128, no you shouldnt because you shouldnt have the menu in the first place | 09:46 |
| ronoc | so whats the point | 09:46 |
| seb128 | ronoc, well to me it indicates that in some cases the indicator can get "invalid utf-8" rather than the username so there is a bug in the code that get the current user name | 09:47 |
| * didrocks agrees on that view, seems 2 separate issues to fix… | 09:47 | |
| seb128 | ronoc, in practice it might be a corner case setup issue but it's still a bug, even if it's not visibility in common cases ;-) | 09:47 |
| ronoc | seb128, I can protect some more against that | 09:47 |
| ronoc | sure, ill get around to it | 09:48 |
| seb128 | ronoc, but let's not bother, we have better to do | 09:48 |
| seb128 | that seems like a low priority thing to investigate the day we run out of real issues | 09:48 |
| ronoc | :) | 09:48 |
| seb128 | ronoc, just curious how do you get the username? | 09:48 |
| seb128 | I though it would be reading passwd or doing a call to accountsservice, I'm just surprised that either of those would be buggy on the livecd | 09:49 |
| ronoc | seb128, its that which is delivered by lightdm so from org.freedesktop.account..... | 09:49 |
| seb128 | ronoc, ok, so maybe it's a bug in the accountsservice left and not in the indicator ;-) | 09:49 |
| seb128 | I will play with d-feet later on to see | 09:50 |
| ronoc | seb128, well the real name entry can be blank, its the user name has to be filled | 09:50 |
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| davmor2 | guys there is a bug in the dash on the applications lens where nothing shows up under games | 10:01 |
| popey | i thought there were no games shipped now? | 10:05 |
| popey | saw someone in a video review mention that | 10:05 |
| davmor2 | popey: it's not showing anything the panel is empty completely | 10:07 |
| davmor2 | but only on games | 10:07 |
| davmor2 | none for install either | 10:07 |
| pitti | ronoc: ah, nice | 10:09 |
| pitti | ronoc, seb128: want me to update casper for this? | 10:09 |
| ronoc | pitti, please Martin, stop the flow of bugs ... | 10:10 |
| pitti | ronoc: which schema is that? | 10:11 |
| pitti | /usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas/com.canonical.indicator.session.gschema.xml ? | 10:11 |
| ronoc | com.canonical.indicator.session | 10:11 |
| ronoc | yup | 10:11 |
| ronoc | pitti, should have the key as of 0.3.4.3 released last night | 10:11 |
| pitti | com.canonical.indicator.session user-show-menu true | 10:12 |
| pitti | right, here we are | 10:12 |
| ronoc | that's the one | 10:12 |
| ogra_ | hmm, my .desktop file that used to be added to the favorites from an initrd script doesnt show up in the launcher anymore, is the process of adding an entry documented somewhere ? | 10:19 |
| pitti | uh, there's a lot of stuff in casper which needs porting to gsettings | 10:20 |
| ogra_ | ah, was there already something ported ? | 10:20 |
| ogra_ | so i could steal from there | 10:20 |
| * ogra_ checks | 10:20 | |
| pitti | ogra_: no | 10:20 |
| ogra_ | :( | 10:20 |
| pitti | I'll start with scripts/casper-bottom/22screensaver, and working my way downwards | 10:21 |
| pitti | and add ronoc's hiding of the user menu | 10:21 |
| pitti | ronoc: is there an LP bug for disabling the user menu? | 10:29 |
| pitti | i. e. should I close something in the changelog? | 10:29 |
| ronoc | pitti, I should have opened a fresher bug , there is one, I'll find it now one sec | 10:30 |
| pitti | ronoc: not necessary to open a bug just for that | 10:30 |
| pitti | ronoc: just wondering if the changelog shoudl close existing ones | 10:30 |
| ronoc | pitti, yeah there is one, I just need to find it, one sec | 10:31 |
| ronoc | pitti, https://bugs.launchpad.net/indicator-session/+bug/834137 | 10:31 |
| ubot2` | Ubuntu bug 834137 in unity-foundations "user menu says [Invalid UTF-8]" [Medium,In progress] | 10:31 |
| pitti | ronoc: I'll add a casper task then; but the actual bug for the invalid utf-8 is still in the indicator, so this should be kept open, too | 10:32 |
| pitti | ronoc: grabbed the casper task, thanks | 10:32 |
| pitti | ronoc: ok, committed; I'll upload this now, let's test tomorrow's live CD | 10:33 |
| Laney | what package contains the network settings applet? | 10:34 |
| Laney | chrisccoulson: are you aware that "Use system proxy settings" in firefox/oneiric doesn't appear to work? | 10:34 |
| chrisccoulson | Laney, yes | 10:34 |
| Laney | sweet | 10:35 |
| seb128 | Laney: what "applet"? how do you open it? | 10:35 |
| Laney | I go to gnome-control-center and click network | 10:35 |
| Laney | is that part of g-c-c itself? | 10:35 |
| ronoc | pitti, ok ill keep it open | 10:36 |
| pitti | desrt: hmm, does that ring a bell? https://launchpadlibrarian.net/79223405/buildlog_ubuntu-oneiric-amd64.glib2.0_2.29.90-0ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz | 10:36 |
| pitti | Session terminated, terminating shell... ...terminated. | 10:36 |
| pitti | /gdbus/delivery-in-thread: make[5]: *** wait: No child processes. Stop. | 10:36 |
| pitti | I can re-try a build, I'll save the build log | 10:37 |
| pitti | (didn't happen locally) | 10:37 |
| seb128 | Laney: yes | 10:37 |
| seb128 | pitti, yeah, please retry and save the log | 10:38 |
| pitti | seb128: yep, done; http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/tmp/buildlog_ubuntu-oneiric-amd64.glib2.0_2.29.90-0ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz | 10:38 |
| ogra_ | hrm, i dont seem to be able to find out how to add an entry to the launcher | 10:48 |
| ogra_ | i need a way to do that from a script/package without running dbus available | 10:49 |
| ogra_ | and all i cqan find is docs on how to create a launcher | 10:49 |
| chrisccoulson | hmmm, trying to make it possible to create and upload mozilla source packages from the datacenter is turning in to a bit of a pain | 10:55 |
| dbarth | random thunderbird freezes since the last update this morning; is that a known issue? | 10:56 |
| chrisccoulson | oh, i forgot to bzr launchpad-login | 10:59 |
| chrisccoulson | d'oh | 10:59 |
| chrisccoulson | dbarth, no, i've not seen anything like that | 11:00 |
| ogra_ | grmbl, why isnt the transition from gconf to the new launcher model properly documented, sigh | 11:01 |
| ogra_ | or are gconf keys for favorites still used ? | 11:01 |
| chrisccoulson | right, moment of truth time. lets see if i can get the daily builds to run without hammering my bandwidth now :) | 11:03 |
| rodrigo_ | can someone sponsor this https://code.launchpad.net/~rodrigo-moya/ubuntu/oneiric/system-config-printer/fix-842092/+merge/74394 please? | 11:16 |
| rodrigo_ | no, no need to, it's on the desktop set! | 11:17 |
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| seb128 | rodrigo_, did you type the second command on the g-s-d bug you commented on? | 11:24 |
| seb128 | you wanted to ask for the min value the second time? | 11:24 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, hmm | 11:30 |
| seb128 | pitti, can we teach apport to stop duplicating from closed bugs? | 11:31 |
| seb128 | or from "invalid" bugs rather | 11:31 |
| pitti | seb128: yeah, that's due to the missing dup db consolidation | 11:31 |
| pitti | which is due to LP timing out | 11:31 |
| seb128 | well maybe "closed" is better ;-) | 11:31 |
| pitti | seb128: seems we'll need a different approach there | 11:31 |
| seb128 | pitti, hum? | 11:31 |
| pitti | I have an idea about it, though | 11:31 |
| pitti | seb128: can you give me an example bug? | 11:31 |
| seb128 | pitti, what has consolidation to do with that? | 11:32 |
| pitti | seb128: consolidation updates the dupe db for open/closed at which version | 11:32 |
| seb128 | <hadess> division by 0 can still happen i guess | 11:32 |
| seb128 | <rodrigo> hadess, the last duplicates are for 3.1.91 | 11:32 |
| seb128 | <hadess> but at least the error paths are ok | 11:32 |
| seb128 | <rodrigo> hadess, yes | 11:32 |
| seb128 | <hadess> where's the stack trace with the latest g-s-d? | 11:32 |
| seb128 | <rodrigo> hadess, no stacktrace, the retracer in lp doesn't et the stacktrace again if it's a duplicate | 11:32 |
| seb128 | 11:32 | |
| seb128 | pitti, today's example of an issue | 11:32 |
| pitti | right | 11:32 |
| pitti | but would be nice to have an example dupe bug for this | 11:32 |
| pitti | anyway, I can find one as well, I guess | 11:32 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, ^ do you have an example? | 11:33 |
| seb128 | pitti, I will tell you next time we get one | 11:33 |
| rodrigo_ | an example of what? | 11:33 |
| seb128 | pitti, but it's nothing new, we have the issue for ever I think | 11:33 |
| rodrigo_ | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-settings-daemon/+bug/833595 is the one I was talking about with hadess | 11:34 |
| ubot2` | Ubuntu bug 833595 in gnome-settings-daemon "gnome-settings-daemon crashed with SIGFPE in backlight_get_percentage()" [Critical,Fix released] | 11:34 |
| seb128 | pitti, if a segfault signature match one of the db it will close it as duplicate and clean it so you loose any way to get a newer or better stacktrace | 11:34 |
| rodrigo_ | if it gets a duplicate for a newer version, it just marks it as dup, but it would be good to update the main bug with the stacktrace for the new version | 11:34 |
| rodrigo_ | if that's possible | 11:34 |
| seb128 | pitti, did the glib update drop symbols? i.e g_unix_signal_add_watch_full | 11:35 |
| kamstrup | seb128: desrt mentioned on gtk-devel that last snapshot broke api+abi | 11:41 |
| seb128 | " | 11:46 |
| seb128 | * API/ABI changes: | 11:46 |
| seb128 | - unix signal watches now match the API of all of the other sources | 11:46 |
| seb128 | - revert the addition of g_date_time_source_new () from last release" | 11:46 |
| seb128 | he mentioned yes | 11:46 |
| * rodrigo_ lunch | 11:46 | |
| seb128 | ok, I'm out for a few hours, bbl | 12:10 |
| pitti | seb128: yes, that symbol was dropped; I didn't notice anythign that actually used it and fails on it, though, did you? | 12:12 |
| seb128 | pitti, we got a bug about evolution not starting | 12:13 |
| seb128 | on that symbol missing | 12:13 |
| seb128 | guess it needs to be updated to 3.1.91 | 12:14 |
| pitti | ah, I see | 12:14 |
| seb128 | will do that later if nobody else do | 12:14 |
| pitti | oh, doesn't appear on versions | 12:14 |
| seb128 | it's not on the default installation | 12:14 |
| pitti | seb128: ok, thanks | 12:14 |
| seb128 | so it slipped out | 12:14 |
| pitti | seb128: ah, that's only default install? | 12:14 |
| seb128 | you need to click on the "+" next to package for non default install | 12:15 |
| pitti | I thought we didn't ship gnome-user-docs any more either | 12:15 |
| pitti | aah | 12:15 |
| seb128 | we have a whitelist in versions.py for things to show anyway, maybe it's there? | 12:15 |
| seb128 | well I've pinged cyphermox_ about the evo update yesterday but he didn't reply | 12:15 |
| seb128 | not sure if he's around this way | 12:15 |
| seb128 | pitti, but don't bother we can deal with that later | 12:16 |
| seb128 | I've to run now though, we will be back later | 12:16 |
| pitti | seb128: ok, sorry about that | 12:16 |
| seb128 | pitti, not your fault and no worry, still an unstable cycle ;-) | 12:18 |
| seb128 | ok, I got to go, see you later | 12:18 |
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| cyphermox_ | seb128: you pinged me about evo yesterday? I never saw it | 13:08 |
| cyphermox_ | I can update it now if nobody did it yet | 13:09 |
| pitti | cyphermox_: thanks | 13:10 |
| dobey | pitti: is anyone looking at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/couchdb/+bug/817656 ? i see a merge proposal for it. is dholbach the right person to review it? | 13:21 |
| ubot2` | Ubuntu bug 817656 in couchdb "Please merge couchdb 1.1.0-1 (main) from Debian unstable (main)" [High,In progress] | 13:21 |
| pitti | dobey: can be done by any sponsor, but it needs a FFE, I suppose? (new upstream version) | 13:24 |
| dobey | hmm | 13:26 |
| dobey | needing an FFE for a severe bug fix sucks :( | 13:26 |
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| pitti | dobey: unless the current version doesn't work at all? | 13:28 |
| Laney | is the new upstream bugfix? | 13:29 |
| dobey | pitti: it doesn't. and i can't mark the desktopcouch bug a dup of that one, because it has too many dups and timeout errors :( | 13:29 |
| pitti | and the bug trail has several problems, too | 13:29 |
| dobey | Laney: couchdb is a clusterbomb of insanity like firefox | 13:29 |
| Laney | sigh | 13:29 |
| pitti | the main rdepends are python-couchdb (and its rdepends) and two universe packages which don't sound very interesting | 13:30 |
| pitti | so I don't mind upgrading to the new version | 13:30 |
| pitti | but the severe performance regression should be addressed perhaps? (there is a proposal how to fix this) | 13:30 |
| dobey | pitti: hrmm, that suggestion is also suggested to be set in the desktopcouch config, and leave the upstream defaults as they are in the couchdb package | 13:36 |
| dobey | pitti: not sure which would be better/preferred there | 13:36 |
| AfC | More random spurious dconf/ directories! | 13:38 |
| didrocks | reboot needed, brb :) | 13:52 |
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| pitti | good night everyone! | 14:41 |
| seb128 | re | 15:04 |
| seb128 | cyphermox_, hi, no worry | 15:05 |
| desrt | pitti: i think so? | 15:05 |
| desrt | pitti: there is a kernel and/or libc bug that's causing a lot of glib tests to hang lately | 15:05 |
| desrt | pitti: i tried to ping doko about it, but got no love | 15:06 |
| seb128 | pedro_, hola! | 15:10 |
| pedro_ | seb128, hey hey ;-) | 15:10 |
| seb128 | pedro_, how are you? | 15:10 |
| pedro_ | seb128, doing good and you? | 15:11 |
| seb128 | I'm fine thanks | 15:11 |
| seb128 | pedro_, sept. 07 12:55:59 <hadess>rodrigo, and tell pedro that i won't take any bugs for the media-keys plugin, and that i require versions in the bug reports | 15:11 |
| seb128 | just for info | 15:11 |
| seb128 | sept. 07 12:56:12 <hadess>it's really pissing me off that i have to go and look for those in launchpad | 15:11 |
| seb128 | pedro_, so maybe copy the package version in the description of the bugs you forward ;-) | 15:12 |
| pedro_ | seb128, ok so same special treatment we do with rhythmbox ;-) | 15:12 |
| seb128 | what about rb? | 15:12 |
| BigWhale | empathy is broken again? just for me or is it an international problem? :> | 15:16 |
| pedro_ | broken in which sense? | 15:16 |
| pedro_ | works fine for me | 15:16 |
| BigWhale | dbl clicking on a name in the contact list doesn't open chat window | 15:16 |
| BigWhale | ah, there's a new version... I'll try this one | 15:17 |
| seb128 | cyphermox_, bug #843769 can probably be closed with the evolution update btw | 15:20 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 843769 in evolution "evolution not start" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/843769 | 15:20 |
| seb128 | "evolution: symbol lookup error: evolution: undefined symbol: g_unix_signal_add_watch_full" | 15:20 |
| seb128 | that's thanks to desrt! | 15:20 |
| cyphermox_ | thanks | 15:20 |
| cyphermox_ | I tried to reproduce it but so far couldn't? | 15:20 |
| cyphermox_ | maybe I need to reboot or something before all the libs get used | 15:20 |
| cyphermox_ | (I was updating this morning) | 15:20 |
| seb128 | cyphermox_, what glib version did you get? | 15:21 |
| cyphermox_ | 2.29.18-0ubuntu3 | 15:21 |
| seb128 | cyphermox_, the new version failed to build first so maybe you didn't it yet on your architecture, it's 2.29.90 | 15:21 |
| seb128 | ok | 15:21 |
| seb128 | so you didn't get it yet | 15:21 |
| cyphermox_ | ah :) | 15:21 |
| seb128 | well in any case it's a glib abi break | 15:21 |
| cyphermox_ | well, this will be fixed soon in evo | 15:21 |
| cyphermox_ | then I'll fix the NBS right away, I checked what would be affected ;) | 15:22 |
| seb128 | ok | 15:22 |
| seb128 | pedro_, was there anything to fix still in bug #840611 | 15:27 |
| seb128 | ? | 15:27 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 840611 in seahorse "seahorse dropped the libcryptui-dev package, needed by almanah and seahorse-plugins" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/840611 | 15:27 |
| pedro_ | seb128, seems pitti fixed all , so nope | 15:28 |
| seb128 | pedro_, ok, I closed it, feel free to reopen if you notice issues due to it | 15:28 |
| pedro_ | will do it | 15:29 |
| jml | hi | 15:45 |
| jml | it seems that g-s-d is breaking whenever I log in with no power on. | 15:46 |
| jml | no power plugged in, rather. | 15:46 |
| seb128 | jml, breaking like segfault? did you use apport to send the bug? | 15:56 |
| jml | seb128: yeah, probably about a half-dozen times already | 15:56 |
| seb128 | jml, can you give me the numbers? | 15:56 |
| jml | seb128: I don't know if it's a segfault. What happens is that none of the theming or key mod changes seem to work. And then, when I log out then log in again I'm prompted to report an issue. | 15:57 |
| jml | seb128: sure. | 15:57 |
| * jml looks through mail logs | 15:57 | |
| jml | bug 836014 | 15:58 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 836014 in gnome-settings-daemon "gnome-settings-daemon crashed with SIGSEGV in g_closure_invoke()" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/836014 | 15:58 |
| seb128 | jml, that's a segfault | 15:59 |
| seb128 | SIGSEGV | 15:59 |
| tedg | pitti, Okay, so flash installer is still not working for me. | 15:59 |
| Nafallo | seb128: hi | 15:59 |
| tedg | pitti, It doesn't seem to want to go down and install the i386 deps all the way down. | 15:59 |
| seb128 | hey Nafallo | 15:59 |
| jml | seb128: sure. It's more that I didn't remember details. | 15:59 |
| seb128 | tedg, h's off for today, try #ubuntu-devel | 16:00 |
| jml | seb128: I've been filing stacks of oneiric bugs this last week, they all tend to blur together. | 16:00 |
| Nafallo | seb128: I have a weird bug I've seen twice over the last few weeks, and I'm not sure where to file it. thought you would be a good person to ask :-) | 16:00 |
| broder | hey cyphermox_: is nm-applet supposed to be creating system-owned connections by default instead of user-owned? | 16:00 |
| seb128 | jml, is that real hardware or virtualbox? | 16:01 |
| jml | seb128: real hardware. | 16:01 |
| cyphermox_ | broder: yup, one of the major changes in NM 0.9 | 16:01 |
| seb128 | jml, can you run "/usr/lib/gnome-settings-daemon/gsd-backlight-helper --get-brightness" with no power plugged? | 16:01 |
| seb128 | Nafallo, sure, just ask | 16:01 |
| Nafallo | seb128: when I alt+tab, the transparent selector thing doesn't disappear afterwards. stuff underneath is still accessible, just quite hard to see. restarting the x-session fixes it. any idea what it could be/heard of it before? | 16:01 |
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| jml | seb128: sure. | 16:01 |
| seb128 | Nafallo, seems like a compiz issue | 16:01 |
| broder | cyphermox_: err, right. i know the architectural stuff, but you can still create "user-owned" connections that are stored in the system settings service | 16:02 |
| broder | cyphermox_: i ask because right now i get prompted by polkit every time i connect to a new network | 16:02 |
| cyphermox_ | yes, you can still create user-owned connections | 16:02 |
| broder | cyphermox_: but we don't by default? | 16:02 |
| Nafallo | seb128: okay. that seems like a good suspect indeed. my others was metacity or unity :-) | 16:02 |
| cyphermox_ | broder: my guess is that you're missing an update of some sort. initially it was prompting all the time, but that was fixed in the polkit policy some time ago (like, months) | 16:03 |
| seb128 | Nafallo, it's unity-3d right? | 16:03 |
| Nafallo | seb128: yeah | 16:03 |
| Nafallo | 4 year old hardware (at least) | 16:03 |
| Nafallo | :-P | 16:03 |
| broder | cyphermox_: hmm...ok, i'll try to upgrade soon and then come back and harass you :) | 16:03 |
| cyphermox_ | broder: I think it may have been because of a dist-upgrade from natty early on, is that possible? | 16:04 |
| broder | cyphermox_: my config is screwy, i actually backported the NM 0.9 and nm-applet 0.9-rc packages to natty | 16:04 |
| broder | this may be totally my fault | 16:05 |
| cyphermox_ | but yeah, if upgrades currently break in this way and keep doing Vista-like "do you allow XYZ", then it's a bug that should have been fixed | 16:05 |
| cyphermox_ | ok. in this case, check policykit or the package that ships the policy (hold on, trying to figure out which it was) | 16:05 |
| broder | cyphermox_: the polkit rules come from the NM package | 16:05 |
| broder | it has <allow_active>auth_admin_keep</allow_active> for the system settings | 16:06 |
| cyphermox_ | broder: nah, there's some other piece. someone from the security team did the upload :) | 16:06 |
| broder | oh, there was a polkit change? ok, i can believe that | 16:06 |
| cyphermox_ | oe maybe you're right | 16:07 |
| cyphermox_ | but IIRC there was a change in other rules outside NM | 16:07 |
| broder | ok. i'll try to actually upgrade soon and test on oneiric | 16:07 |
| cyphermox_ | ok. let me know | 16:08 |
| charlie-tca | cyphermox_: Thanks for the network icon in Xubuntu Oneiric. It finally came back. :) | 16:15 |
| cyphermox_ | charlie-tca: my pleasure. it was kinda fun to debug and figure out | 16:15 |
| jml | seb128: sorry, am on a phone call. I run it, it says 15. | 16:15 |
| jml | seb128: same plugged in and unplugged | 16:16 |
| cyphermox_ | intially I had gotten it to show both the indicator and tray icon at once, but figured having just one instance of nm-applet was a good thing :) | 16:16 |
| charlie-tca | Probably true | 16:17 |
| charlie-tca | It is good to see the indicator again | 16:18 |
| cyphermox_ | so I take it you don't use the indicator widget? | 16:18 |
| seb128 | jml, ok, no hurry, it would be useful to get a stacktrace using gdb, I've put a comment on the bug, whenever somebody can try to do that the info would be useful, I will have rodrigo to look at it since apparently he though he had fixed the bug but it's still happening | 16:18 |
| cyphermox_ | I said I'd try to fix the bluetooth, jockey and etc too, perhaps I should get to that now | 16:18 |
| charlie-tca | I don't know what we use. | 16:18 |
| charlie-tca | bluetooth is a nightmare for us. We are probably going to have to go to blueman for it | 16:18 |
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| charlie-tca | I can't keep all the names of these things straight. I look in the panel, I got an icon, or I don't got an icon ;) | 16:19 |
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| jml | seb128: thanks. | 16:21 |
| seb128 | jml, yw ;-) | 16:21 |
| cyphermox_ | charlie-tca: if bluetooth is currently showing as a broken icon, then you don't have the indicator widget in the panel (I thought that was the difference between the Xfce and Xubuntu sessions) | 16:21 |
| charlie-tca | Bluetooth doesn't show at all in my panel, but I have nothing that uses it either | 16:28 |
| cyphermox_ | charlie-tca: ok | 16:36 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, could you have a look to bug #832603 when you have some time? | 16:46 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 832603 in gnome-settings-daemon "gnome-settings-daemon crashed with SIGSEGV in g_simple_async_result_complete()" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/832603 | 16:46 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, it's in the media-key code and upstream is not really wanting to look at it since we do some patching around there | 16:47 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, you probably know the code best around so would be nice if you could have a look to it | 16:47 |
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| chrisccoulson | seb128, yeah, sure | 16:51 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, thanks | 16:51 |
| jml | yay progress. | 16:56 |
| jml | uninstalling rabbitmq-server makes "Restart" restart. | 16:56 |
| jml | I wonder if it fixes suspend / resume too. That'd be awesome. | 16:56 |
| * jml tests | 16:56 | |
| dobey | hrmm | 17:26 |
| didrocks | ok, time for dinner. See you tomorrow! | 17:26 |
| dobey | is there a calendar application installed by default in oneiric, or is that a missing feature now? | 17:27 |
| seb128 | dobey, no calendar application by default | 17:28 |
| dobey | seb128: should we split evolution-couchdb into 2 separate packages? (one for the e-d-s plug-ins, and one for the evolution gui plug-ins) | 17:29 |
| dobey | seb128: so people can get contacts sync in tb without having to install the evo gui | 17:30 |
| seb128 | dobey, chrisccoulson was supposed to work on that | 17:30 |
| seb128 | dunno what happened to it | 17:30 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, ^ | 17:30 |
| chrisccoulson | yes, we should do that | 17:31 |
| chrisccoulson | i haven't done it yet because desktopcouch seems to be completely broken anyway | 17:31 |
| chrisccoulson | and is resulting in people reporting bugs against thunderbird already ;) | 17:31 |
| dobey | couchdb 1.1.0 fixes the desktopcouch brokenness. it's just that couchdb 1.0 doesn't work with new erlang that's in oneiric | 17:31 |
| chrisccoulson | heh | 17:32 |
| chrisccoulson | does that mean we are completely screwed? ;) | 17:32 |
| dobey | well there's a bug requesting couchdb 1.1.0 sync from debian, and a merge proposal for it | 17:32 |
| chrisccoulson | the plan was that i would split evolution-couchdb, and then provide a small tb extension to create the couchdb addressbook | 17:32 |
| chrisccoulson | and i've already written the extension | 17:33 |
| dobey | but new couchdb seems to suck at performance by default | 17:33 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, when are you off again? | 17:33 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, good question | 17:33 |
| dobey | and pitti didn't answer if it was preferred to fix that in couchdb itself, or in desktopcouch | 17:33 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, just in time for final freeze, i think ;) | 17:33 |
| seb128 | dobey, "that" being? | 17:33 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, ok, so you still have time for that couchdb and contact syncing work? | 17:33 |
| dobey | seb128: there's a configuration change that makes the performance match what was in 11.04 | 17:34 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, yeah | 17:34 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, some people will be unhappy at us if we don't have contact syncing working with tb for Oneiric ;-) | 17:34 |
| dobey | seb128: that change can either go in the couchdb package as a patch, or we can stick it in desktopcouch, so that it always gets used by desktopcouch, but system couch uses upstream couch defaults | 17:34 |
| seb128 | dobey, seems better to fix couchdb directly? | 17:35 |
| dobey | seb128: i'd say enough people are already upset that it doesn't work with evolution :) | 17:35 |
| seb128 | dobey, right, well rick checked with us that contact syncing will work in tb for oneiric some weeks ago | 17:35 |
| dobey | seb128: i would think so, but i don't know enough to say definite one way or the other | 17:36 |
| dobey | well syncing still works | 17:36 |
| dobey | it's just that you can't see them from evolution or tb :) | 17:37 |
| seb128 | dobey, well first step would be to address the issues on https://code.launchpad.net/~wibblymat/ubuntu/oneiric/couchdb/update-to-1.1.0/+merge/74236 | 17:37 |
| dobey | afaik, replication still works fine, so long as you're not stuck on the finicky server that can sometimes be problematic, and that we're working on getting fixed/replaced | 17:37 |
| seb128 | Daniel Holbach (dholbach) wrote on 2011-08-18 Posted in a previous version of this proposal | 17:38 |
| seb128 | "libjs-jquery-form is in universe. It would need to follow https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MainInclusionProcess" | 17:38 |
| seb128 | you need a ffe as well now | 17:38 |
| dobey | can we just move couchdb to universe? | 17:38 |
| seb128 | if everything which install couchdb on demand handle enabling universe when it's not set I guess we could | 17:39 |
| dobey | what all installs it on demand? just u1 control panel? | 17:40 |
| seb128 | not sure but I think so | 17:40 |
| seb128 | dobey, well demoting couchdb would be demoting anything which has a depends,recommends,build-depends on one of its binaries | 17:41 |
| seb128 | or one of the binaries from desktopcouch, etc | 17:41 |
| dobey | if so, you can consider that done. it's like 20 minutes of work for me to do tops, and i think it's not enabling universe atm for installing bindwood either, so we'd need to fix that anyway | 17:41 |
| seb128 | not sure if any package use it to build in main | 17:41 |
| dobey | i'm fine with that :) | 17:41 |
| seb128 | well you still need a ffe | 17:42 |
| dobey | just couchdb-glib and evolution-couchdb afaik | 17:42 |
| dobey | ffe because it is a major version bump? | 17:42 |
| seb128 | yes | 17:42 |
| seb128 | that and the demotion probably need an archive admin review to check that actual nothing uses it | 17:43 |
| dobey | i wish apt-cache had rbuild-depends | 17:44 |
| seb128 | dobey, for example if evolution-couchdb has a build-depends on some couchdb component it will need to go to universe | 17:44 |
| dobey | i don't think anything needs it to compile though | 17:44 |
| seb128 | dobey, so you can't get a binary installed for tb by default | 17:44 |
| dobey | seb128: we already can't have it installed by default because it's not on the CD | 17:44 |
| dobey | we removed it from CD for 11.04 | 17:45 |
| dobey | so nothing installed by default is using couchdb/desktopcouch | 17:45 |
| seb128 | dobey, you can use http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/germinate-output/ubuntu.oneiric/rdepends/couchdb/couchdb-bin | 17:45 |
| seb128 | or similar | 17:46 |
| seb128 | but yeah, demoting the erlang,couchdb stack would be nice ;-) | 17:46 |
| dobey | seb128: that is just binary package deps though, doesn't show build-depends. like if soemthing used it to run tests | 17:46 |
| dobey | but i don't think anything does, that's not in that list | 17:46 |
| dobey | and odd that evolution-couchdb is listed there, instead of couchdb-glib :) | 17:47 |
| seb128 | dobey, germinate does list build-depends | 17:47 |
| seb128 | dobey, see http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/germinate-output/ubuntu.oneiric/rdepends/xorg-server/xvfb | 17:47 |
| dobey | hmm | 17:47 |
| dobey | ok, gotta run | 17:47 |
| dobey | appointment | 17:47 |
| seb128 | see you later | 17:48 |
| Sweetshark | !seen jasoncwarner_ | 17:54 |
| ubot2` | I have no seen command | 17:54 |
| * Sweetshark hands ubot2` a cookie. | 17:54 | |
| jml | seb128: just attached a thing that's a backtrace of a segfault in g-s-d in bug 836014 | 17:55 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 836014 in gnome-settings-daemon "gnome-settings-daemon crashed with SIGSEGV in idle_is_session_inhibited()" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/836014 | 17:55 |
| jml | seb128: might be a different crash though. | 17:55 |
| seb128 | jml, thanks | 17:56 |
| seb128 | jml, could you get one with gnome-settings-daemon-dbgsym installed? ;-) | 17:57 |
| Elvar | Hi. I'm not sure if this is the right channel for this, but I was wondering if anyone could help me with an ubuntu gtk problem. | 17:57 |
| seb128 | Elvar, hey | 17:58 |
| Elvar | hi seb128 | 17:58 |
| jml | seb128: ok | 17:58 |
| seb128 | what sort of question? | 17:58 |
| seb128 | jml, thanks | 17:58 |
| seb128 | Elvar, user questions should rather go on #ubuntu | 17:59 |
| seb128 | have to go for dinner, bbl | 17:59 |
| Elvar | thx. i'll go there | 18:01 |
| jml | how do I install gnome-settings-daemon-dbgsym? | 18:01 |
| seb128 | jml, cf 1. on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Backtrace | 18:02 |
| bigon | pitti: ImportError: /usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/gi/_gi.so: undefined symbol: g_callable_info_skip_return with the experimental version | 18:02 |
| jml | seb128: thanks. go eat dinner. :) | 18:04 |
| jml | seb128: OK. trace w/ symbols uploaded. I also need to eat, and am running out of morale so might not come back. | 18:26 |
| seb128 | jml, thanks, no hurry for debugging go enjoy your evening and come back tomorrow with morale set to high ;-) | 18:50 |
| jbicha | /usr/share/gnome-session/sessions/gnome-classic.session requires notification-daemon or it will fallback to the metacity version | 19:22 |
| jbicha | will installing notification-daemon interfere with Unity's notifications? | 19:23 |
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| chrisccoulson | so, bug 832603 will definitely occur if the media-keys plugin is stopped before the callback passed to g_bus_get is fired | 19:55 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 832603 in gnome-settings-daemon "gnome-settings-daemon crashed with SIGSEGV in g_simple_async_result_complete()" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/832603 | 19:55 |
| chrisccoulson | i wonder what would cause that condition to happen though? | 19:55 |
| chrisccoulson | jml, is that the bug you were looking at eariler? | 19:57 |
| kscloud | Anyone know of a bug that concerns Qt apps crashing compiz? | 20:27 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, no, jml's bug what in another .so | 20:47 |
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| dobey | chrisccoulson: ping. were you going to split up the evo-couchdb package, or should i go ahead and do that? | 21:16 |
| cyphermox_ | dobey: split up evo-couchdb? | 21:19 |
| dobey | cyphermox_: yes into 2 packages. one for the evolution gui bits, and one for the e-d-s backend bits | 21:20 |
| cyphermox_ | mmkay | 21:20 |
| cyphermox_ | so you can use the e-d-s backend stuff in thunderbird I guess? | 21:21 |
| dobey | cyphermox_: so using contacts sync in tb won't require installing all of evolution | 21:21 |
| cyphermox_ | fun | 21:21 |
| cyphermox_ | well, I won't stop you. evo-couchdb will need at least a rebuild soon (e-d-s/evo updates) | 21:21 |
| dobey | cyphermox_: new versions break ABI? | 21:22 |
| cyphermox_ | dobey: libcamel-1.2-29 | 21:23 |
| cyphermox_ | instead of -28 | 21:23 |
| dobey | lovely | 21:24 |
| dobey | i wonder why they don't just change it to -3.0 at this point | 21:24 |
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