[03:36] <orangeni1ja> hello
[03:37] <Unit193> Howdy orangeni1ja!
[03:37] <orangeninja> Hey Unit193
[05:26] <Unit193> All irccloud.com users were just K-Lined
[12:53] <Xpistos> what up peeps!
[12:53] <Xpistos> Capo
[12:56] <wrst> howdy Xpistos
[13:00] <Xpistos> ok, I am going to break the stigma
[13:00] <wrst> ha ha ha
[13:00] <wrst> but /etc/rc.conf is what you are hunting for
[13:00] <Xpistos> do they use ipv6 by default?
[13:01] <Xpistos> I am trying to get my ssh installed and it can't find the web
[13:01] <Xpistos> ping google.com  --> unknown host google.com
[13:02] <Xpistos> or do i have to start dhcpd or something
[13:04] <Xpistos> yeah that was it
[13:05] <wrst> Xpistos: have you installed ssh and have you started the sshd daemon?
[13:05] <wrst> cyberanger: byobu is awesome
[13:05] <Xpistos> installing it now
[13:06] <Xpistos> byobu?
[13:06] <wrst> Xpistos: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/SSH
[13:06] <wrst> its like screen on steroids
[13:07] <wrst> and add sshd to your daemons you should be good to go
[13:07] <wrst> after restarting
[13:07] <wrst> or just start the daemon manually
[13:08] <wrst> rc.d start sshd from a root prompt
[13:08] <Xpistos> done!
[13:09] <Xpistos> how do I add to the daemon . in rc.conf?
[13:09] <wrst> just edit it and add sshd to the daemons list, see the wiki
[13:09] <Xpistos> check
[13:09] <wrst> Xpistos:  the answer to everything in arch is read the documentation ;)
[13:09] <Xpistos> I know right
[13:09] <Xpistos> except my sound card issue
[13:09] <Xpistos> lol
[13:09] <wrst> best documentation of any linux I've used, I wish ubuntu had that documentation
[13:10] <wrst> what type of card Xpistos?
[13:10] <Xpistos> onsec
[13:11] <Xpistos> Yamaha DS-1S (YMF744)
[13:11] <Xpistos> I can't get sound and I have the master and the PCM unmuted
[13:11] <wrst> running alsa ?
[13:12] <Xpistos> I think so. I am checking it in the alsamixer
[13:13] <wrst> did you look at this? https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Advanced_Linux_Sound_Architecture
[13:14] <wrst> mainly did you add yourself to the sound group?
[13:14] <wrst> but godo to follow the entire wiki
[13:14] <wrst> *good
[13:47] <Xpistos> man this back and forth crap is for the birds
[13:48] <Xpistos> when will these people learn, i have more important things to do than fix their email
[13:59] <wrst> ha ha Xpistos
[14:39] <cyberanger> wrst: glad you like it
[14:40] <wrst> yeah cyberanger didn't realize I can have it attatched on one machine then go to the other and attatch but it doesn't unattatch from the first machine that's nice
[14:40] <cyberanger> Xpistos: adding yourself to the audio group & checking that your soundcard is getting the audio (not an onboard sound chip)
[14:41] <wrst> yeah cyberanger I think the adding to the group is the biggest thing because with out that I think you have no hope of sound?
[14:41] <wrst> or you could just install pulse audio and have no hope of sound :)
[14:41] <Xpistos> how do I check what groups I am in?
[14:41] <Xpistos> I am pretty sure I am added to both
[14:41] <Xpistos> and the audio according to alsamixer is the sound card
[14:42] <wrst> Xpistos: groups username
[14:43] <Xpistos> audio users
[14:44] <Xpistos> I have master and PCM unmuted
[14:44] <wrst> you using alsa mixer?
[14:44] <wrst> err alsamixer
[14:44] <Xpistos> that is what I am looking at now
[14:47] <cyberanger> wrst: well, it's more of controlling sound, you'd have no permissions (and Xpistos opened alsamixer to unmute stuff, permissions would have been an issue there)
[14:47] <Xpistos> http://alt3redegos.com/SS.png
[14:48] <Xpistos> that is what I am looking at
[14:48] <Xpistos> my user has sudo rights
[14:50] <wrst> ok Xpistos here are some issues I have had, the master going to the wrong output so try turning everything all the way up, and also if that doesn't work us f6 and see if something is funky on picking up the sound card
[14:50] <wrst> I've had weird things with sound and old machines
[14:50] <wrst> on my arch laptop i'm using pulse since gnome requires it and realy didn't have to do any setup at all, but in the gnome2 days it was a little more difficult :)
[14:52]  * wrst wonders about Xpistos working on his sound via winders :)
[14:57] <Xpistos> ?
[14:57] <wrst> thought that looked like a windows screnshot?
[14:57] <Xpistos> IT WAS
[14:58] <wrst> ahh yes that was putty
[14:58] <Xpistos> stupid thingy
[14:58] <wrst> how do you know if your sound is working i guess is what I'm wondering? :)
[15:00] <Xpistos> i don't know it is working the system beeps are working at least
[15:02] <wrst> then what are you working on? :)
[15:02] <Xpistos> well it may be a lost cause cause i rean a speaker test and didn't hear anything
[15:03] <wrst> but you have the machine in ear shot I'm assuming? :)
[15:03] <Xpistos> I am trying to hear sound when watching an avi or on the internet
[15:03] <Xpistos> LOL no
[15:03] <Xpistos> that would be almost as bad as I can't get on the internet and after 30 min of TS telling you I don't have any lectricity
[15:03] <Xpistos> Yes it is in arms reach
[15:03] <Xpistos> lol
[15:04] <wrst> oh ok :)
[15:04] <Xpistos> Am I that bad?
[15:04] <wrst> well just making sure ;)
[15:04] <wrst> if the system beeps from within arch I think alsa is atleast telling it to do that... I think
[15:05] <Xpistos> etc/modprobe.d/alsa.conf no such file
[15:05] <wrst> hmm
[15:07] <Xpistos> on a side note how do I add dhcpcd to the daemon. just that way "dhcpcd" or dhcp
[15:08] <Xpistos> should I try to run alsaconf?
[15:08] <wrst> well if plugged in you shouldn't have to there is a networking segment of rc.conf that should have dhcp by default I think
[15:15] <Xpistos> I ran alsaconf and when it was done, i ran a sound test and got this as part orf the output: Write error: -32,Broken pipe
[15:17] <wrst> well right there is your problem you cant get no sound if your sound pipe is all busted
[15:25] <Xpistos> should I have etc/modprobe.d/alsa.conf
[15:39] <Xpistos> hmm... my modprobe.conf look like cause my is commented out and only references v2.6? and uname -r says 3.0-Arch
[15:47] <wrst> let me look at what I have Xpistos
[15:47] <Xpistos> ok
[15:47] <Xpistos> I am sure there needs to be something in there
[15:48] <wrst> that's what I have also Xpistos
[15:48] <wrst> but I'm running pusle since I have gnome
[15:49] <Xpistos> and your sound card is working?
[15:49] <wrst> yes
[15:49] <Xpistos> oh wait you aren't at your box right
[15:51] <wrst> no its at home but sound and everything works perfectly.. I hate to suggest it but might be worth trying pulse ?
[15:51] <wrst> it might configure things somehow that might work
[15:52] <wrst> Xpistos: /etc/asound.conf
[15:53] <Xpistos> no such file or directory
[15:53] <wrst> hmm
[15:53] <wrst> I'm thinking that one has to be there
[15:54] <Xpistos> there is a file called pulse
[15:55] <Xpistos> or a folder called pulse and a file called client.conf
[15:55] <wrst> where is that at Xpistos?
[15:55] <Xpistos> /etc/pulse/client.conf
[15:56] <wrst> what desktop are you running?
[15:56] <Xpistos> xfce
[15:56] <Xpistos> everything in the .conf is commented out
[15:57] <Xpistos> I was going to try and install OSS and see if tat worked
[15:58] <wrst> have you seen this? https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xfce#Sound
[18:41] <Xpistos> wrst: oss worked
[18:43] <wrst> awesome Xpistos!
[18:43] <wrst> those old cards are a pain in the rear sometimes
[18:47] <Xpistos> oh and get this. I am trying to figure out a problem on my wordpress site and one guy named nklutter tells me its not wordpres it is css. go ask them. I beg for two hours in css and then someone says pay, and guess who is the first to answer them? nklutter
[18:47] <Xpistos> i wanted to punch him
[18:48] <wrst> ha ha
[18:48] <wrst> nice :)
[18:49] <Xpistos> LOL appearantly shutting down with oss enabled cuases my system to crash.
[18:50] <wrst> well that isn't nice :)
[18:58] <Xpistos> it is good. I am looking at a avi of alex grim installing ubutnu 6.10
[18:58] <Xpistos> sound is good, video is clean
[18:58] <Xpistos> I am happy
[18:59] <Xpistos> still pissed with my css issue, but other than that I am good
[19:01] <wrst> and thats on something with 64MB of RAM right Xpistos?
[19:02] <Xpistos> yep
[19:02] <Xpistos> it may be worth the $30 to upgrade the ram to 256
[19:02] <Xpistos> lol
[19:08] <wrst> that's amazing that you have video and audio and a modern os working on that
[19:09] <wrst> and this is in no way to slur ubuntu but probably easier to do it with arch than to do it with ubuntu
[19:16]  * cyberanger thinks that's in every way to insult ubuntu
[19:21] <cyberanger> wrst: ^
[19:30] <wrst> cyberanger: not really ubuntu isn't for that purpose so much I know you can strip it down to be
[19:33] <cyberanger> so it's calling ubuntu fat
[19:33] <cyberanger> bloated
[19:40] <wrst> no calling ubuntu for a different user base, ubuntu is for my mom, or for me, or for someone that wants a nice no fuss desktop to run on fairly modern equipment
[19:41] <wrst> where arch is very customizable to run video on a machine with 64mb of ram :)
[19:41] <wrst> and btw cyberanger unity in 11.10 is going to be decent at least and I may even say good
[19:41] <wrst> they have made huge progress
[19:42]  * cyberanger still doesn't believe that
[19:43] <Unit193> ^^
[20:05] <wrst> cyberanger:  really its much improved, it will probably never be for you but its much improved
[21:41] <orangeninja> Hey people
[22:31] <pace_t_zulu> hey guys
[22:40] <wrst> howdy howdy
[22:53] <Unit193> Now what do I say? You took mine...
[22:58] <cyberanger> hey pace_t_zulu
[22:58] <cyberanger> howja Unit193
[22:59] <Unit193> Gutuen tag cyberanger!
[23:00] <Unit193> привет WRST г
[23:15] <cyberanger> Danke Unit193 (and the russian is off)
[23:57] <Unit193> I suppose I should have gone for abend :)