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| zma | Hi, are there prebuild Ubuntu Core images available? Or is it feasible choice to just "install it" ? | 10:27 |
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| ogra_ | ubuntu core is only a rootfs tarball | 10:28 |
| zma | ok, so it comes down to boot mechanism and drivers | 10:29 |
| zma | Actually, I just need some alternative to Angstrom on Panda board. I don't need all unnecessary graphical environment stuff | 10:31 |
| zma | Is Ubuntu Core a good choice to look at? | 10:31 |
| ogra_ | ubuntu-core is something for people wanting a base to create new images and want to take the effort to implement the HW related bits themselves | 10:40 |
| ogra_ | if you want a non graphical install i would go with the server image instead | 10:41 |
| zma | good point | 10:41 |
| * ogra_ reboots for an ac100 test install bbl | 10:44 | |
| ogra_ | grrr | 11:38 |
| * ogra_ wonders why the ac100 installer doesnt boot | 11:38 | |
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| * ogra_ grumbles deeply | 12:17 | |
| * ogra_ wonders why he gets uncompression errors with the installer initrd | 12:18 | |
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| ogra_ | bug 806751 | 15:30 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 806751 in debian-installer "Boot partition on SD is too small on omap/omap4" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/806751 | 15:30 |
| rbasak | ogra_, GrueMaster: so we were talking about what I might be able to do to help with ARM server. So that I'm clear, am I right in understanding that there's nothing apart from QA left to be done? And for QA, I'll just take items from GrueMaster's work list? | 15:58 |
| ogra_ | well, generally the apps just work regardless what arch they run on, so our main issue is QA to actually find the ones that misbehave based on the arch difference | 15:59 |
| GrueMaster | rbasak: A lot has been tested, and the status "should" be on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/QA/Server, especially the failing tests. | 15:59 |
| GrueMaster | One of the issues I keep running into is that there doesn't appear to be any test tools/documents/methodologies for most of my work items. So I have to make it up as I go. | 16:01 |
| GrueMaster | And some of the tests we do have are woefully inadequate. | 16:01 |
| rbasak | OK so those are what you've written up below? | 16:02 |
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| GrueMaster | Yes. | 16:03 |
| rbasak | And the items on the wiki page are what you've done so far, so don't include work items you've not looked at yet? | 16:03 |
| GrueMaster | I have been trying to document the steps I took to start the tests so that I have something to refer to when I go back to automate them. | 16:03 |
| rbasak | ...and all the testing you've been doing so far is on the pandaboard? | 16:03 |
| GrueMaster | Yes. If it isn't tested, it isn't on the wiki. | 16:04 |
| GrueMaster | Yes. | 16:04 |
| rbasak | OK | 16:04 |
| rbasak | Is there an item that is nicely separated that you can give me to get started on? | 16:04 |
| ogra_ | rbasak, http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-oneiric/canonical-arm.html has all workitems for the canonical-arm team | 16:04 |
| rbasak | Note that I've only just had the pandaboard arrive in the post today, I've not tried it yet | 16:04 |
| GrueMaster | fyi, running a raid5 on USB Sata drives from a cell phone based system is...interesting. | 16:04 |
| * ogra_ wonders why ubuntu-arm isnt there, i thought it was added | 16:04 | |
| ogra_ | if syou want to help with any of these, thast indeed appreciated | 16:05 |
| rbasak | ...so I'll need some help to get started I expect | 16:05 |
| ogra_ | GrueMaster, hehm i did something similar with my nslu2 | 16:05 |
| rbasak | the trouble I have with the work items is that I see an entry but have very little idea on what's actually involved in doing it, so i don't know what I should start with | 16:05 |
| GrueMaster | Well, you can either start with a preinstalled image on SD or (for better performance) use a USB drive. | 16:05 |
| ogra_ | 5 identical USB keys on a HUB set up as software raid | 16:06 |
| ogra_ | sadly the nlsu CPU couldnt cope :) | 16:06 |
| rbasak | USB drive as in hard drive or flash stick? | 16:06 |
| ogra_ | stick | 16:06 |
| GrueMaster | rbasak: I have no idea either. Hence the research I have to do for each work item. | 16:06 |
| ogra_ | just for laughs ... | 16:06 |
| GrueMaster | I have USB Sata drives. | 16:07 |
| rbasak | GrueMaster: OK so would it be better for me to try and fix a failed test in the wiki? | 16:07 |
| ogra_ | well, even the stick speed improves | 16:07 |
| GrueMaster | rbasak: Other than some of the PTS tests, the only ones that failed are iSCSI and IPSec. iSCSI is arch independent at this point. | 16:08 |
| GrueMaster | IPSec required a new kernel config, which is now in place. | 16:08 |
| rbasak | what's pts? | 16:08 |
| GrueMaster | Phoronix-Test-Suite. | 16:09 |
| rbasak | ok | 16:09 |
| GrueMaster | The clusterFS tests I will have to do, as I have the HW for it (6 pandas with USB SATA drives). | 16:09 |
| GrueMaster | rbasak: The other test that I am blocked on is the IPv6 stuff. The only validation testsuite I know of is from http://tahi.org, but it is BSD only. | 16:12 |
| GrueMaster | So, open workitems that can be taken are: SELinux, ensemble, OpenStack/LXC, and LUKS (although I thought I had tested LUKS a while ago - Alpha 3 timeframe). | 16:14 |
| GrueMaster | Oh, that was encryptfs. Not sure if there is a difference. | 16:15 |
| rbasak | OK, I know my way around LUKS (I even ported it to Android) so that might be an appropriate one to take | 16:16 |
| GrueMaster | Cool. | 16:16 |
| rbasak | So am I right in thinking that there's no other real guidance - I just need to come up with a process that tests LUKS effectively, write up what it is, and make sure it works? | 16:16 |
| GrueMaster | Pretty much. | 16:16 |
| rbasak | OK! | 16:16 |
| rbasak | What's the timescale? | 16:17 |
| GrueMaster | Beta 2 release. | 16:17 |
| GrueMaster | (two weeks). | 16:17 |
| rbasak | OK and is that tested in two weeks or tested and fixed in two weeks? | 16:17 |
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| GrueMaster | Tested (and bugs filed appropriately). | 16:18 |
| GrueMaster | This is mainly a pipe cleaning exercise, to see what needs fixing in armel server. | 16:18 |
| GrueMaster | (of course, if the bug can be fixed quickly, great). | 16:18 |
| rbasak | OK, I'll have to see how I get on and I'll keep you updated. I haven't even booted the board yet, so I really have no idea how long it'll take me | 16:19 |
| rbasak | (and I need to order a PSU!) | 16:19 |
| GrueMaster | Ping me if you need help. I have a lot of time on these boards now. | 16:19 |
| GrueMaster | If you have a USB Y cable, you can use it for now. Draw power from your PC. | 16:20 |
| GrueMaster | Just plug it into the gaget port. | 16:20 |
| GrueMaster | *gadget | 16:20 |
| rbasak | I only have straight cables | 16:20 |
| GrueMaster | Should give you enough to boot the server image from SD and have networking. | 16:21 |
| rbasak | OK | 16:21 |
| GrueMaster | And if you do use an external USB drive, it will need it's own power source. | 16:21 |
| rbasak | I have a USB caddy that takes its own power so that should be OK | 16:22 |
| GrueMaster | Excellent. | 16:22 |
| rbasak | Where do I get the image? Will the latest in cdimage be OK? | 16:22 |
| GrueMaster | Yes, that should work well for just running off SD. | 16:22 |
| rbasak | So I just dd it straight on? | 16:23 |
| rbasak | I can borrow an SD card out of my camera for now but I'll need to order one for longer term. What's the recommended size? | 16:23 |
| GrueMaster | pretty much. The image is an img.gz file, so gunzip < <image> |dd bs=4M of=/dev/mmcblk0 (or whatever the SD is on your pc). | 16:24 |
| rbasak | OK | 16:24 |
| GrueMaster | I use 8G for my server testing, but anything from 4G up will do. | 16:24 |
| GrueMaster | For preinstalled images. | 16:24 |
| GrueMaster | If you do netboot, you only need ~30-50M on the SD. | 16:25 |
| GrueMaster | And the rootfs can live on the USB drive (~10x faster). | 16:25 |
| GrueMaster | brb | 16:25 |
| CocoaGeek | hello | 16:26 |
| rbasak | OK PSU and SD card ordered but I think I have enough to get going for now | 16:28 |
| CocoaGeek | can I just use arm-linux-gnueabi-g++-4.4 on x64 Ubuntu 11.04 to cross-compile for Ubuntu running on a OMAP4 netbook? | 16:29 |
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| dcordes | rsalveti: hey | 16:31 |
| GrueMaster | CocoaGeek: It should work. For cross-compile issues, you may want to ask in #linaro though. They are actively working on that stuff. | 16:31 |
| CocoaGeek | GrueMaster: Thank you | 16:32 |
| dcordes | I am wondering why fennec does not appear in the oneiric version http://packages.ubuntu.com/en/oneiric/fennec | 16:32 |
| dcordes | so I emailed the package maintainer but I do not receive any reply | 16:33 |
| dcordes | where should such things be discussed ? | 16:33 |
| rsalveti | dcordes: hey! | 16:37 |
| rsalveti | dcordes: true: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fennec | 16:38 |
| rsalveti | ubuntu-dev probably | 16:38 |
| dcordes | rsalveti: can't your put your foot down ? :D you told me you see use for it on tablets etc. | 16:50 |
| ppisati | GrueMaster: saw the beagle xm network stuff | 18:29 |
| ppisati | GrueMaster: i'm at plumbers, i'll take a look at it next week | 18:29 |
| GrueMaster | ppisati: I believe it is u-boot related. | 18:29 |
| ppisati | GrueMaster: yep | 18:29 |
| ppisati | GrueMaster: is the new u-boot the pxe-enabled one? | 18:30 |
| GrueMaster | Not sure. | 18:32 |
| GrueMaster | I don't think so. | 18:32 |
| ppisati | ok | 18:32 |
| ppisati | anyway, when i'm back i'll take a look | 18:32 |
| ppisati | GrueMaster: thanks for the debug | 18:32 |
| ppisati | GrueMaster: and btw, since it seems you are really work-overloaded | 18:32 |
| GrueMaster | To be honest, I haven't had time to really look at it. | 18:32 |
| GrueMaster | (beyond what is in the bug report). | 18:33 |
| ppisati | GrueMaster: if there's something i can do, i mean, feel free to throw it to me :) | 18:33 |
| GrueMaster | Ok. | 18:33 |
| ppisati | oooooooook :) | 18:33 |
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