=== Jack87|Away is now known as Jack87 === Jack87 is now known as Jack87|Away === michaelh1 is now known as michaelh1|away === michaelh1|away is now known as michaelh1 [10:27] Hi, are there prebuild Ubuntu Core images available? Or is it feasible choice to just "install it" ? [10:28] ubuntu core is only a rootfs tarball [10:29] ok, so it comes down to boot mechanism and drivers [10:31] Actually, I just need some alternative to Angstrom on Panda board. I don't need all unnecessary graphical environment stuff [10:31] Is Ubuntu Core a good choice to look at? [10:40] ubuntu-core is something for people wanting a base to create new images and want to take the effort to implement the HW related bits themselves [10:41] if you want a non graphical install i would go with the server image instead [10:41] good point [10:44] * ogra_ reboots for an ac100 test install bbl [11:38] grrr [11:38] * ogra_ wonders why the ac100 installer doesnt boot === michaelh1 is now known as michaelh1|away [12:17] * ogra_ grumbles deeply [12:18] * ogra_ wonders why he gets uncompression errors with the installer initrd === rickytaylor26 is now known as ricky26 === lilstevie|Ghost is now known as lilstevie [15:30] bug 806751 [15:30] Launchpad bug 806751 in debian-installer "Boot partition on SD is too small on omap/omap4" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/806751 [15:58] ogra_, GrueMaster: so we were talking about what I might be able to do to help with ARM server. So that I'm clear, am I right in understanding that there's nothing apart from QA left to be done? And for QA, I'll just take items from GrueMaster's work list? [15:59] well, generally the apps just work regardless what arch they run on, so our main issue is QA to actually find the ones that misbehave based on the arch difference [15:59] rbasak: A lot has been tested, and the status "should" be on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/QA/Server, especially the failing tests. [16:01] One of the issues I keep running into is that there doesn't appear to be any test tools/documents/methodologies for most of my work items. So I have to make it up as I go. [16:01] And some of the tests we do have are woefully inadequate. [16:02] OK so those are what you've written up below? === shadeslayer_ is now known as shadeslayer [16:03] Yes. [16:03] And the items on the wiki page are what you've done so far, so don't include work items you've not looked at yet? [16:03] I have been trying to document the steps I took to start the tests so that I have something to refer to when I go back to automate them. [16:03] ...and all the testing you've been doing so far is on the pandaboard? [16:04] Yes. If it isn't tested, it isn't on the wiki. [16:04] Yes. [16:04] OK [16:04] Is there an item that is nicely separated that you can give me to get started on? [16:04] rbasak, http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-oneiric/canonical-arm.html has all workitems for the canonical-arm team [16:04] Note that I've only just had the pandaboard arrive in the post today, I've not tried it yet [16:04] fyi, running a raid5 on USB Sata drives from a cell phone based system is...interesting. [16:04] * ogra_ wonders why ubuntu-arm isnt there, i thought it was added [16:05] if syou want to help with any of these, thast indeed appreciated [16:05] ...so I'll need some help to get started I expect [16:05] GrueMaster, hehm i did something similar with my nslu2 [16:05] the trouble I have with the work items is that I see an entry but have very little idea on what's actually involved in doing it, so i don't know what I should start with [16:05] Well, you can either start with a preinstalled image on SD or (for better performance) use a USB drive. [16:06] 5 identical USB keys on a HUB set up as software raid [16:06] sadly the nlsu CPU couldnt cope :) [16:06] USB drive as in hard drive or flash stick? [16:06] stick [16:06] rbasak: I have no idea either. Hence the research I have to do for each work item. [16:06] just for laughs ... [16:07] I have USB Sata drives. [16:07] GrueMaster: OK so would it be better for me to try and fix a failed test in the wiki? [16:07] well, even the stick speed improves [16:08] rbasak: Other than some of the PTS tests, the only ones that failed are iSCSI and IPSec. iSCSI is arch independent at this point. [16:08] IPSec required a new kernel config, which is now in place. [16:08] what's pts? [16:09] Phoronix-Test-Suite. [16:09] ok [16:09] The clusterFS tests I will have to do, as I have the HW for it (6 pandas with USB SATA drives). [16:12] rbasak: The other test that I am blocked on is the IPv6 stuff. The only validation testsuite I know of is from http://tahi.org, but it is BSD only. [16:14] So, open workitems that can be taken are: SELinux, ensemble, OpenStack/LXC, and LUKS (although I thought I had tested LUKS a while ago - Alpha 3 timeframe). [16:15] Oh, that was encryptfs. Not sure if there is a difference. [16:16] OK, I know my way around LUKS (I even ported it to Android) so that might be an appropriate one to take [16:16] Cool. [16:16] So am I right in thinking that there's no other real guidance - I just need to come up with a process that tests LUKS effectively, write up what it is, and make sure it works? [16:16] Pretty much. [16:16] OK! [16:17] What's the timescale? [16:17] Beta 2 release. [16:17] (two weeks). [16:17] OK and is that tested in two weeks or tested and fixed in two weeks? === apachelogger_ is now known as apachelogger [16:18] Tested (and bugs filed appropriately). [16:18] This is mainly a pipe cleaning exercise, to see what needs fixing in armel server. [16:18] (of course, if the bug can be fixed quickly, great). [16:19] OK, I'll have to see how I get on and I'll keep you updated. I haven't even booted the board yet, so I really have no idea how long it'll take me [16:19] (and I need to order a PSU!) [16:19] Ping me if you need help. I have a lot of time on these boards now. [16:20] If you have a USB Y cable, you can use it for now. Draw power from your PC. [16:20] Just plug it into the gaget port. [16:20] *gadget [16:20] I only have straight cables [16:21] Should give you enough to boot the server image from SD and have networking. [16:21] OK [16:21] And if you do use an external USB drive, it will need it's own power source. [16:22] I have a USB caddy that takes its own power so that should be OK [16:22] Excellent. [16:22] Where do I get the image? Will the latest in cdimage be OK? [16:22] Yes, that should work well for just running off SD. [16:23] So I just dd it straight on? [16:23] I can borrow an SD card out of my camera for now but I'll need to order one for longer term. What's the recommended size? [16:24] pretty much. The image is an img.gz file, so gunzip < |dd bs=4M of=/dev/mmcblk0 (or whatever the SD is on your pc). [16:24] OK [16:24] I use 8G for my server testing, but anything from 4G up will do. [16:24] For preinstalled images. [16:25] If you do netboot, you only need ~30-50M on the SD. [16:25] And the rootfs can live on the USB drive (~10x faster). [16:25] brb [16:26] hello [16:28] OK PSU and SD card ordered but I think I have enough to get going for now [16:29] can I just use arm-linux-gnueabi-g++-4.4 on x64 Ubuntu 11.04 to cross-compile for Ubuntu running on a OMAP4 netbook? === suihkulo1ki is now known as suihkulokki [16:31] rsalveti: hey [16:31] CocoaGeek: It should work. For cross-compile issues, you may want to ask in #linaro though. They are actively working on that stuff. [16:32] GrueMaster: Thank you [16:32] I am wondering why fennec does not appear in the oneiric version http://packages.ubuntu.com/en/oneiric/fennec [16:33] so I emailed the package maintainer but I do not receive any reply [16:33] where should such things be discussed ? [16:37] dcordes: hey! [16:38] dcordes: true: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fennec [16:38] ubuntu-dev probably [16:50] rsalveti: can't your put your foot down ? :D you told me you see use for it on tablets etc. [18:29] GrueMaster: saw the beagle xm network stuff [18:29] GrueMaster: i'm at plumbers, i'll take a look at it next week [18:29] ppisati: I believe it is u-boot related. [18:29] GrueMaster: yep [18:30] GrueMaster: is the new u-boot the pxe-enabled one? [18:32] Not sure. [18:32] I don't think so. [18:32] ok [18:32] anyway, when i'm back i'll take a look [18:32] GrueMaster: thanks for the debug [18:32] GrueMaster: and btw, since it seems you are really work-overloaded [18:32] To be honest, I haven't had time to really look at it. [18:33] (beyond what is in the bug report). [18:33] GrueMaster: if there's something i can do, i mean, feel free to throw it to me :) [18:33] Ok. [18:33] oooooooook :) === michaelh1|away is now known as michaelh1 === Jack87|Away is now known as Jack87 === Jack87 is now known as Jack87|Away === MrCurious__ is now known as MrCurious