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| pitti | Good morning | 04:38 |
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| pitti | desrt: ah, thanks; I'll just keep retrying it on the builders then | 04:39 |
| pitti | dobey: couchdb> oh, I didn't answer because I have NFC about couch | 04:40 |
| pitti | bigon: where do you see this error? | 04:40 |
| TheMuso | morning pitti. | 04:53 |
| pitti | hey TheMuso, how are you? | 04:59 |
| TheMuso | pitti: Not too bad thanks. | 04:59 |
| TheMuso | Yourself? | 04:59 |
| pitti | pretty well, thanks! | 05:00 |
| pitti | TheMuso: looking at bug 769256 now, I'll see whether we can apply a workaround in our packages | 05:01 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 769256 in gtk+3.0 "Gdk enumerations do not contain GType info in GIR" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/769256 | 05:01 |
| TheMuso | pitti: ok thanks., | 05:07 |
| pitti | well, I'll first give it a shot upstream | 05:07 |
| TheMuso | ok | 05:14 |
| jbicha | pitti: do you know if installing notification-daemon interferes with Unity's notifications? | 05:34 |
| pitti | jbicha: it shouldn't | 05:36 |
| pitti | jbicha: notify-osd's dbus script has some code to detect whether to use notification-daemon or notify-osd | 05:38 |
| didrocks | good morning | 05:39 |
| pitti | bonjour didrocks | 05:40 |
| didrocks | hey pitti! | 05:43 |
| desrt | pitti: if you could get some love on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/eglibc/+bug/838975 it would be nice :) | 05:52 |
| ubot2` | Ubuntu bug 838975 in eglibc "weird pthread/fork race/deadlock" [Undecided,New] | 05:52 |
| pitti | desrt: that's a little above my head, I'm afraid :/ | 06:04 |
| robert_ancell | jasoncwarner_, ping | 06:30 |
| jasoncwarner_ | hey robert_ancell | 06:31 |
| robert_ancell | jasoncwarner_, can I get you to try an optimised unity-greeter and see if that makes a difference? Are you using i386 or amd64? | 06:32 |
| jasoncwarner_ | amd64 | 06:32 |
| robert_ancell | jasoncwarner_, yay, I'll just email you the .deb then | 06:32 |
| jasoncwarner_ | I just updated and didn't see U-G come down... | 06:32 |
| jasoncwarner_ | oh | 06:32 |
| jasoncwarner_ | ok | 06:32 |
| jasoncwarner_ | you can always share in U1, if one.ubuntu.com is working (it wasn't yesterday) | 06:33 |
| jasoncwarner_ | but email works as well. | 06:33 |
| robert_ancell | brb | 06:33 |
| robert_ancell | jasoncwarner_, ok, emailed it to you now. Should use the new one as soon as you log out after installing | 06:37 |
| jasoncwarner_ | is there a way I can check when I'm on the screen? | 06:37 |
| robert_ancell | jasoncwarner_, while logged in? | 06:37 |
| jasoncwarner_ | when I'm logging in... | 06:38 |
| jasoncwarner_ | like, I'm sitting on the u-g screen about to login, how do I check I'm using the proper u-g version? | 06:38 |
| robert_ancell | jasoncwarner_, the logo in the bottom left will be translucent, which is not the case in 0.0.5 | 06:38 |
| jasoncwarner_ | or am I making this too complicated? | 06:38 |
| robert_ancell | yes :P | 06:38 |
| jasoncwarner_ | ah, ok | 06:39 |
| jasoncwarner_ | robert_ancell: I'm tesitng this for laginess, right? | 06:40 |
| robert_ancell | jasoncwarner_, yes (I don't see any on my system) | 06:41 |
| jasoncwarner_ | ok...rebooting...back in like 4 minutes :/ | 06:41 |
| robert_ancell | there's two major changes - the animation is now constant time, and the backgrounds are rendered in a thread | 06:41 |
| robert_ancell | jasoncwarner_, still there? you don't have to reboot, just log out btw | 06:48 |
| jasoncwarner_ | robert_ancell: back | 06:49 |
| didrocks | pitti: FYI, libunity will have an ABI break today, prepare for seeing a bunch of rebuilds | 06:51 |
| * micahg cries, chrisccoulson ^^ | 06:52 | |
| micahg | didrocks: did you see my note about qt4-x11? | 06:53 |
| rickspencer3 | I forgot to start xchat this morning, this gave me the illusion of a very quiet morning | 06:54 |
| didrocks | micahg: hum, no I didn't? when did you sent it? | 06:54 |
| micahg | didrocks: I subscribed you to a bug several hours ago about adding a patch to it | 06:54 |
| pitti | didrocks: ah, thanks | 06:55 |
| pitti | rickspencer3: one is ridiculously productive without IRC, right? :-) | 06:55 |
| rickspencer3 | pitti, well, I did go to the bakery and enjoy some esspresso | 06:55 |
| didrocks | micahg: do you have the bug number handy? It seems I didn't get it in my "subscriber" box? | 06:56 |
| rickspencer3 | so, I'll answer your question with a "yes" ;) | 06:56 |
| micahg | didrocks: bug 837557 | 06:56 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 837557 in qt4-x11 "fraudulent DigiNotar certificate issuance" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/837557 | 06:56 |
| pitti | rickspencer3: 'zactly! | 06:56 |
| rodrigo_ | morning | 06:56 |
| micahg | wow, how nice of ubot2` to get the right task :) | 06:56 |
| pitti | hey rodrigo_ | 06:56 |
| rodrigo_ | hi pitti | 06:57 |
| didrocks | micahg: oh that? its already done… but thanks :) | 06:58 |
| micahg | didrocks: ah, excellent, uploaded too or just waiting to upload? | 06:58 |
| didrocks | (and you didn't subscribe me, but assigned) :) | 06:58 |
| didrocks | micahg: waiting to upload in coordination with some new unity-2d release | 06:58 |
| didrocks | micahg: all is ready from monday (expect from this patch I added yesterday after reading the blog post) | 06:59 |
| micahg | didrocks: ah, right, cool, thanks, I'll watch for the upload and close manually if you don't add the bug #, thanks, one less thing to worry about :) | 06:59 |
| didrocks | micahg: I'll add the bug # now, no worry :) | 07:00 |
| micahg | didrocks: thanks, I'm heading to sleep now | 07:00 |
| didrocks | micahg: enjoy :) | 07:01 |
| didrocks | jasoncwarner_: oh btw, agateau fixed the sni-qt and dbusmenu-qt to support multi-arch, so you should get your indicator in skype back | 07:07 |
| jasoncwarner_ | I saw that today, :) | 07:08 |
| jasoncwarner_ | it is working ! | 07:08 |
| didrocks | great :) | 07:11 |
| didrocks | pitti: I never get it from the wiki page, is a strange change, so an UIFe needs a ack or just subscription + email sending? The wiki page doesn't seem to tell it needs an ack | 07:12 |
| pitti | didrocks: it's a freeze exception like any other, so it does need an ack | 07:13 |
| pitti | didrocks: for UI we require an additional ack from the documentation team | 07:13 |
| pitti | but u-release@ usually subscribes/asks them after initial review | 07:13 |
| didrocks | pitti: ok, well, in this case, the doc team is making the change :) | 07:14 |
| didrocks | pitti: quick look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-translations/+bug/839880 ? | 07:14 |
| ubot2` | Ubuntu bug 839880 in language-selector "Instructs to use System -> Administration menu" [Undecided,In progress] | 07:14 |
| didrocks | pitti: I try to chase the unity guys to get all UIFe done for today's release (there will be a lot, so maybe can open a metabug summarizing everything?) otherwise, I won't upload the new release | 07:14 |
| pitti | didrocks: well, Gabor is translation team, but right, we should fix that, an in this case it's a string break, so that implies his +1 | 07:16 |
| pitti | didrocks: summary bug sounds fine; I thought we already had one | 07:16 |
| pitti | didrocks: there was one which explained all the layout changes in the dash, for example | 07:16 |
| didrocks | pitti: oh? I wasn't subscribed to this one, this is from yesterday? | 07:17 |
| pitti | didrocks: bug 841945 | 07:17 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 841945 in unity "UIFe: Dash - Shape and positioning of most of the elements in the Dash need adjustment" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/841945 | 07:17 |
| didrocks | pitti: ok, there is not all the changes, but the others are touching the dash as well | 07:18 |
| pitti | TheMuso: ah, I think I have an upstreamable patch now which works in all scenarios; doing the last test builds. so expect an upload over the day | 07:44 |
| pitti | back in ~ 1 h | 07:46 |
| seb128 | hey | 08:03 |
| rodrigo_ | hey seb128 | 08:03 |
| didrocks | salut seb128 | 08:09 |
| didrocks | hey rodrigo_ | 08:09 |
| rodrigo_ | salut didrocks | 08:11 |
| chrisccoulson | good morning eveeryone | 08:16 |
| rodrigo_ | morning chrisccoulson | 08:16 |
| chrisccoulson | hi rodrigo_, how are you? | 08:16 |
| rodrigo_ | I'm fine thanks, and you? | 08:16 |
| chrisccoulson | rodrigo_, yeah, not too bad thanks, although i've got quite a headache this morning | 08:17 |
| rodrigo_ | oh, suck :( | 08:17 |
| bigon | 06:40 < pitti> bigon: where do you see this error? << http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=640467 | 08:17 |
| ubot2` | Debian bug 640467 in python-gobject "Insufficient requirement on glib" [Grave,Open] | 08:17 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, so, i figured out last night that stopping the media-keys plugin before the callback to g_bus_get is dispatched will cause bug 832603 | 08:18 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 832603 in gnome-settings-daemon "gnome-settings-daemon crashed with SIGSEGV in g_simple_async_result_complete()" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/832603 | 08:18 |
| chrisccoulson | i can fix that, but it would be nice to figure out the conditions which actually cause that | 08:18 |
| chrisccoulson | because it seems a little weird | 08:18 |
| chrisccoulson | in fact, destroying the plugin before that callback fires will cause a crash too, because nothing is holding a ref to it, but that's not the issue there | 08:19 |
| rodrigo_ | chrisccoulson, I'm looking at that bug myself, but why would you want to stop the plugin? | 08:20 |
| seb128 | hey rodrigo_ didrocks chrisccoulson | 08:20 |
| seb128 | how are you? | 08:20 |
| chrisccoulson | rodrigo_, well, they're stopped on shutdown | 08:20 |
| didrocks | good morning chrisccoulson | 08:20 |
| pitti | bonjour seb128 | 08:20 |
| pitti | bigon: thanks, I'll have a look | 08:20 |
| seb128 | hey pitti | 08:20 |
| rodrigo_ | chrisccoulson, right, but the call is supposed to have finished, unless you log in and out very quickly, right? | 08:20 |
| rodrigo_ | chrisccoulson, but yes, I'm fixing it by keeping a ref to the GCancellable's, so that we can clean up on shutdown | 08:21 |
| chrisccoulson | rodrigo_, yeah, that's why i'd like to figure out the condition it happens under | 08:21 |
| rodrigo_ | yeah | 08:21 |
| chrisccoulson | the issue is is that manager->priv->introspection_data is NULL when the callback fires | 08:21 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, can you backport the g-s-d commits bastien pointed to fix the segfault you discussed yesterday? | 08:22 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, it doesn't fix the division by 0, my patch does, which is in the branch | 08:22 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, so I was thinking on keeping my patch in the package and just remove it with the next version upgrade, which should have the final fix | 08:22 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, bastien reverted your fix in git and says his commits are the right way to fix it | 08:22 |
| bigon | pitti: joss told me there is nothing to do | 08:23 |
| bigon | we need to wait for a new glib version in experimental | 08:23 |
| bigon | :( | 08:23 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, yes, but it doesn't, I'm waiting for him to wake up to discuss it | 08:23 |
| seb128 | ok | 08:23 |
| pitti | bigon: sounds like it requires a stricter build/binary dep at least? | 08:23 |
| pitti | yay, that fix should unbreak orca | 08:23 |
| rodrigo_ | chrisccoulson, right, so that means it's being called after cleanup | 08:23 |
| chrisccoulson | indeed | 08:24 |
| rodrigo_ | chrisccoulson, I'll finish my fix and push to the g-s-d branch | 08:24 |
| chrisccoulson | thanks | 08:24 |
| bigon | pitti: indeed the dep must be adjuste | 08:24 |
| bigon | d | 08:24 |
| pitti | bigon: so it seems the upstream configure.ac check isn't sufficient either? | 08:25 |
| bigon | maybe Ididn't look at that in deep | 08:27 |
| seb128 | pitti, why did you turn on --enable-gtk-doc in glib and gtk when you did updates? did you run into build issues? | 08:28 |
| pitti | seb128: because the new upstream versions stopped building it by default | 08:28 |
| pitti | seb128: previous versions apparenlty did | 08:28 |
| pitti | seb128: but I'll change it to just ship the orig.tar.gz pre-generated one | 08:28 |
| jasoncwarner_ | hey seb128 or didrocks, after a reboot today I lost the battery indicator... | 08:28 |
| jasoncwarner_ | can I get it back without rebooting? | 08:29 |
| seb128 | pitti, desrt told me they didn't build it by default for a long time | 08:29 |
| pitti | seb128: I just fixed bug 769256, working on bug 842543 now | 08:29 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 769256 in gtk+3.0 "Gdk enumerations do not contain GType info in GIR" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/769256 | 08:29 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 842543 in ubuntu "Bad generated documentation for all includes in gtk.h" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/842543 | 08:29 |
| seb128 | pitti, ok, thanks, I was going to look at it but since you are on it | 08:29 |
| rodrigo_ | bug 836014 | 08:29 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 836014 in gnome-settings-daemon "gnome-settings-daemon crashed with SIGSEGV in idle_is_session_inhibited()" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/836014 | 08:29 |
| pitti | seb128: well, the previous version apparently built, but with the new version dh_install failed because the doc files weren't present | 08:29 |
| seb128 | pitti, it might be as simple as "just go back to shipping the tarball htmls" | 08:29 |
| pitti | seb128: perhaps the new gtk-doc-tools makefiles break installation of the pre-generated sources, etc. | 08:29 |
| seb128 | pitti, ah that's interesting, the .html are in the tarball, at least for glib | 08:30 |
| pitti | seb128: yes, I'll ship the pregenerated ones, and update dh_install accordingly (install from source dir instead of build dir) | 08:30 |
| seb128 | I didn't check gtk3 | 08:30 |
| pitti | seb128: they are in gtk3, too | 08:30 |
| seb128 | seems like an upstream bug then | 08:30 |
| pitti | seb128: back then I thought that we shipped the built docs | 08:30 |
| seb128 | there is probably another bug if rebuilding the documentation leads to broken html files | 08:30 |
| seb128 | we usually ship the upstream one since between make dist and the package build there is no content change and no reason the htmls should be differents | 08:31 |
| seb128 | so no need to add build-depends and build time | 08:31 |
| pitti | *nod* | 08:31 |
| seb128 | pitti, let's check with desrt later on about the make install not installing the documentation if --disable-gtk-doc is used | 08:32 |
| seb128 | that seems an upstream bug | 08:32 |
| pitti | uh, dbus-daemon went crazy, using 100% cpu | 08:34 |
| pitti | apparently e-d-s keeps spamming it | 08:34 |
| pitti | or something else which tries to talk to e-d-s | 08:35 |
| pitti | indicator-datetime-service presumably | 08:35 |
| seb128 | pitti, indicator- | 08:35 |
| seb128 | right, I was going to say that | 08:35 |
| seb128 | pitti, do you have indicator-weather? | 08:35 |
| pitti | no | 08:36 |
| pitti | I have a window | 08:36 |
| pitti | and weatherbug on my mobile | 08:36 |
| seb128 | I think jjardon was asking if people who get the issue has indicator-weather installed | 08:36 |
| pitti | ok, killall indicator-datetime-service helped | 08:36 |
| pitti | it autorespawned, and the indicator seems alright (shows my appointments) | 08:36 |
| seb128 | bug 774071 | 08:37 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 774071 in indicator-datetime "Indicator-datetime-service renders 100% CPU usage" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/774071 | 08:37 |
| seb128 | pitti, ^ | 08:37 |
| pitti | cheers | 08:37 |
| seb128 | should probably be "high" | 08:38 |
| seb128 | not sure why ted set it to low | 08:38 |
| seb128 | jasoncwarner_, sorry I forgot to go back to you | 08:38 |
| seb128 | jasoncwarner_, you can try to kill unity-panel-service | 08:38 |
| seb128 | jasoncwarner_, it should reload and with luck give you back your indicator | 08:38 |
| didrocks | (the indicator isn't there when the battery is fully charged if the current behavior I have there is correct) | 08:40 |
| seb128 | pitti, did I say that you rock today yet? ;-) | 08:40 |
| seb128 | (just happy to see the retracers working in a stable way) | 08:40 |
| pitti | seb128: uh, what did I do? | 08:40 |
| pitti | ah, heh :) | 08:40 |
| pitti | merci :) | 08:40 |
| seb128 | cyphermox_, what happened to the evolution upload? | 08:41 |
| seb128 | (well I guess he's sleeping by now) | 08:41 |
| pitti | libpanel-applet-2 is gone from NBS \o/ | 08:42 |
| seb128 | pitti, great work! | 08:42 |
| seb128 | didrocks, jasoncwarner_: no, indicator-power shouldn't hide when the battery is full | 08:42 |
| pitti | now our remaining things are panel-applet-3 (depends on indicator-applet), the evo libraries, and ptlib/ekiga | 08:42 |
| didrocks | seb128: hum, that's the behavior I have for the past month though | 08:42 |
| seb128 | didrocks, that's a bug | 08:43 |
| pitti | there are only 5 libnotify1 rdepends left, I'll see to porting those | 08:43 |
| didrocks | seb128: was thinking it's indended, will check with ted/ronoc | 08:43 |
| seb128 | didrocks, bug #844377? | 08:43 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 844377 in indicator-power "Power/battery indicator no longer showing" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/844377 | 08:43 |
| seb128 | didrocks, check with jjardon he's the indicator-power guy | 08:43 |
| seb128 | didrocks, see bug #811769 as well | 08:45 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 811769 in indicator-power "Power Menu should respect icon-policy hide setting" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/811769 | 08:45 |
| jjardon | didrocks: what is the output of upower -d ? | 08:45 |
| didrocks | jjardon: right now, I removed the power plug, so I see it, let's wait for it being at 100% | 08:45 |
| didrocks | jjardon: but jasoncwarner_ doesn't see it, you can ask him :) | 08:46 |
| seb128 | hey jjardon ;-) | 08:46 |
| seb128 | jasoncwarner_, can you pastebin a "upower -d" log? | 08:46 |
| jasoncwarner_ | seb128: sure.,...just rebooted and it sure is gone | 08:46 |
| pitti | dh_install: libgtk-3-doc missing files (debian/install/shared/usr/share/gtk-doc/html/gtk*), aborting | 08:47 |
| pitti | seb128: ^ FYI, that's the build failure | 08:47 |
| seb128 | desrt, ^ | 08:47 |
| jasoncwarner_ | http://pastebin.com/RNwReRmF | 08:47 |
| pitti | but no problem, I'll just install them from ./docs/ | 08:47 |
| seb128 | pitti, find debian/install/share -name html? | 08:47 |
| jasoncwarner_ | seb128: ^^ | 08:47 |
| seb128 | jjardon, ^ | 08:47 |
| pitti | seb128: no *.html at all | 08:48 |
| seb128 | ok, so make install bog | 08:48 |
| seb128 | jasoncwarner_, jjardon: seems like bug #844377 | 08:48 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 844377 in indicator-power "Power/battery indicator no longer showing" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/844377 | 08:48 |
| jjardon | seb128: hey ;), ok, the bug is not related to the indicator then, but maybe with upower | 08:48 |
| jjardon | do we have an update of upower recently? | 08:48 |
| seb128 | jjardon, https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/upower | 08:49 |
| seb128 | jjardon, not for 9 weeks | 08:49 |
| pitti | jjardon: no, it didn't change for a while | 08:49 |
| pitti | there's a new upstream version, but it only has one tiny fix which is relevant at runtime | 08:49 |
| pitti | jjardon: gpm used to have a gconf setting for when to show: always/only when charging/never/etc. | 08:50 |
| pitti | jjardon: does i-p have something similar? didrocks might have a gsettings key to only show when charging? | 08:50 |
| seb128 | pitti, no, see http://pastebin.com/RNwReRmF | 08:50 |
| seb128 | pitti, they get upower bog | 08:50 |
| jjardon | pitti: yeah, but that gconf key was removed with the move to g-s-d | 08:50 |
| seb128 | pitti, that's upower -d log | 08:51 |
| jasoncwarner_ | seb128: I had battery up until about, I don't know, 1.5 hours ago? | 08:51 |
| jasoncwarner_ | then I rebooted to test a unity-greeter thing with robert and it went away | 08:51 |
| seb128 | jasoncwarner_, were you working plugged and now unplugged? | 08:52 |
| jasoncwarner_ | (I did an update during that time, but I don't remmeber what came down) | 08:52 |
| jasoncwarner_ | no | 08:52 |
| seb128 | ok, dunno then | 08:52 |
| jasoncwarner_ | seb128: no...always plugged in | 08:52 |
| seb128 | still seems a upower issue and you are not the only one seeing the bug I pointed | 08:52 |
| jasoncwarner_ | ok | 08:53 |
| jjardon | seb128: I'll ask upstream | 08:53 |
| seb128 | jjardon, do you think you could help getting it debugged? | 08:54 |
| seb128 | jjardon, great, thanks! | 08:54 |
| didrocks | is it me or LP is dead? | 08:54 |
| pitti | "Oops" | 08:54 |
| seb128 | it's "oops" | 08:54 |
| didrocks | ok, we are all oppsing then :) | 08:55 |
| seb128 | ot's back | 08:55 |
| seb128 | it's back | 08:55 |
| didrocks | and it's off again :/ | 08:56 |
| didrocks | can play this game for long! :-) | 08:56 |
| rodrigo_ | need to run some errands, bbiab | 08:58 |
| ricotz | pitti, hello, should i file a bug or can you look at it this way http://people.ubuntu.com/~ricotz/clutter/ - it cant be uploaded to debian yet since it is missing a newer atk | 09:36 |
| seb128 | ricotz, pitti: I can look at tit | 09:37 |
| ricotz | seb128, thanks | 09:37 |
| ricotz | seb128, do you know if jbicha is fixing gnome-shell? | 09:38 |
| seb128 | ricotz, no idea, what is broken? | 09:39 |
| ricotz | seb128, quite a bit build-deps are missing | 09:39 |
| ricotz | so it ftbfs | 09:40 |
| seb128 | ok | 09:40 |
| seb128 | well I'm sure he will fix it | 09:40 |
| ricotz | doko_, hello :), so armhf will be available on 12.04 | 09:40 |
| ricotz | seb128, good | 09:40 |
| seb128 | jjardon, thanks for bringing the upower issue upstream | 09:52 |
| jjardon | seb128: the problem is with upower and the new glib version, we need the latest upower | 09:52 |
| seb128 | pitti, we need a new upower, upowerd exit on the same missing symbol from glib that evolution | 09:52 |
| seb128 | jjardon, I've been reading #control-center, thanks ;-) | 09:52 |
| seb128 | pitti, do you want to do the update? | 09:52 |
| jjardon | seb128: oh, great ;) | 09:52 |
| seb128 | pitti, we need http://cgit.freedesktop.org/upower/commit/?id=785ecbb6d5f635f7c8076009f696001d2247fd31 in fact | 09:53 |
| seb128 | jasoncwarner_, ^ upowerd broke yesterday due to the glib update | 09:53 |
| seb128 | didrocks, your issue is probably different since you had it before today | 09:54 |
| didrocks | seb128: right | 09:54 |
| pitti | seb128: can do (sorry, I'm in meeting) | 09:54 |
| seb128 | ricotz, pitti: I uploaded clutter | 09:54 |
| seb128 | pitti, no hurry for upower, danke | 09:55 |
| ricotz | seb128, ty | 09:57 |
| koolhead11 | hey all | 10:00 |
| didrocks | hum, sending an email, and thunderbird crashed | 10:01 |
| didrocks | and click on "restart" and no restart, nice :/ | 10:02 |
| ogra_ | you probably need to install the restart and the send extensions *g* | 10:03 |
| seb128 | it's all chrisccoulson's fault! | 10:05 |
| didrocks | all of it! :) | 10:11 |
| koolhead11 | does it makes sense to use gconf after unity arrival for future LTS? | 10:11 |
| rodrigo_ | chrisccoulson, do you get the crash in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-settings-daemon/+bug/832603 ? | 10:14 |
| ubot2` | Ubuntu bug 832603 in gnome-settings-daemon "gnome-settings-daemon crashed with SIGSEGV in g_simple_async_result_complete()" [High,Triaged] | 10:14 |
| chrisccoulson | rodrigo_, no, i've never had that before | 10:14 |
| rodrigo_ | ok | 10:14 |
| jasoncwarner_ | pitti: thanks for being on there...I know you hate the conf system :) | 10:16 |
| pitti | jasoncwarner_: it was quite hard to understand you; Jane and Rick were okay | 10:17 |
| pitti | jasoncwarner_: at least I figured out how to use empathy for it (it actually Just Works, just had the wrong conf code) | 10:18 |
| pitti | seb128: so, I can't upload that upowerd to Debian yet; will do an ubuntu upload then | 10:23 |
| pitti | but will update upower at Debian to the current upstream version first | 10:23 |
| seb128 | pitti, why can't you upload to Debian? | 10:24 |
| pitti | seb128: debian's glib is at 2.28 still | 10:24 |
| pitti | ah, and the new upstream version also doesn't work for Deiban | 10:24 |
| pitti | but no problem | 10:25 |
| seb128 | pitti, the commit I pointed suggests that they check the glib version and adapt to it | 10:25 |
| seb128 | pitti, so it should work on 2.28 as well | 10:26 |
| seb128 | just use different codepaths | 10:26 |
| pitti | ooh, right | 10:26 |
| pitti | seb128: I wonder why it doesn't crash for me, thoug | 10:28 |
| pitti | h | 10:28 |
| rodrigo_ | unity is always started by gnome-session right? | 10:33 |
| didrocks | rodrigo_: yeah | 10:37 |
| czajkowski | Laney: you still seeing the apport mesage of doom today ? | 10:41 |
| Laney | haven't used my laptop | 10:43 |
| Laney | but I didn't get it when re-logging-in yesterday | 10:43 |
| czajkowski | hmm ot it again this morning | 10:50 |
| czajkowski | :/ | 10:50 |
| rodrigo_ | hmm, edit_acl says vala is on the desktop set, but it rejects my upload | 10:51 |
| rodrigo_ | so can someone upload lp:~ubuntu-desktop/vala/ubuntu please? | 10:52 |
| * davmor2 tickles czajkowski | 10:52 | |
| czajkowski | davmor2: I'm in too good a mood to mind, still on a high fro getting a new job | 10:53 |
| chrisccoulson | czajkowski, oh, congratulations :) | 10:55 |
| czajkowski | chrisccoulson: thanks | 10:59 |
| czajkowski | davmor2: do me a favour there, open up software center and search planner for me please :) | 11:01 |
| pitti | seb128: upower uploaded to debian/ubuntu | 11:03 |
| davmor2 | czajkowski: yeap and? | 11:05 |
| seb128 | pitti, danke | 11:06 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, will do, vala is but you updated vala-0.14 right? | 11:06 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, can you email cjwatson about having that one added to the seed? | 11:06 |
| seb128 | pedro_, hola | 11:06 |
| pedro_ | hello seb128! | 11:06 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, seems it's already in the desktop set, not sure what's up | 11:06 |
| pedro_ | morning all :-) | 11:06 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, yes, to vala 0.13.4 | 11:07 |
| seb128 | pedro_, I've started assigning you some bugs to forward, you can unassign them once forwarded, I figured it would be easier for you to not miss the ones to forward? | 11:07 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, needed by the new fols | 11:07 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, ok | 11:07 |
| davmor2 | czajkowski: I get project management, planner development library, pondus, mofit day planner, net plan, gsql etc | 11:07 |
| pitti | seb128: after lunch, I plan to merge our librsvg changes to Debian and update to the new version | 11:07 |
| pedro_ | seb128, i'm checking for bugs with an open empty upstream task and forwarding those, but assign also works for me ;-) | 11:07 |
| pitti | seb128: do you have anything else for me which is urgent? | 11:07 |
| seb128 | pitti, great, thanks | 11:07 |
| seb128 | pitti, no | 11:08 |
| * pitti lunches | 11:08 | |
| seb128 | pedro_, well I'm also using assignee when upstream wanted extra infos and somebody needs to follow | 11:08 |
| czajkowski | davmor2: but do you see them all twice on the list? | 11:08 |
| seb128 | pedro_, I just use that for bugs I would like to see fixed not for all the noise don't worry ;-) | 11:08 |
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| seb128 | pitti, enjoy! | 11:08 |
| pitti | seb128: can we easily fix vala and glib2.0 on versions.html ? | 11:08 |
| pedro_ | seb128, lets use the assign method then | 11:09 |
| pedro_ | hola rodrigo_! | 11:09 |
| rodrigo_ | hey pedro_ | 11:09 |
| seb128 | pitti, yes, I will do those | 11:09 |
| davmor2 | czajkowski: known bug for multiarch mvo was going to look into it, I'll have a word with tremolux latter and see if he knows what happened | 11:09 |
| czajkowski | davmor2: ah ok still here on oneiric so | 11:10 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, I've unassigned some bugs from you btw ;-) | 11:10 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, i'm triaging the g-c-c bugs | 11:10 |
| davmor2 | czajkowski: if you look one has :i386 | 11:10 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, cool! I owe you some beers then!! :) | 11:10 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, pedro_: I will add an apport hook btw | 11:10 |
| Laney | ricotz: I just fixed gnome-shell build-deps, but now get "dh_girepository: Could not find Gee-1.0.typelib dependency | 11:10 |
| davmor2 | czajkowski: it's a oneiric only bug due to the switch to multiarch | 11:10 |
| Laney | " — do you know what that means? | 11:10 |
| * Laney has never touched gir stuff before | 11:10 | |
| seb128 | pedro_, rodrigo_: to reassign segfaults to the package which has the .so which segfaulted | 11:10 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, ok | 11:10 |
| czajkowski | davmor2: if I install them, click view and go back arrow to the list, they only appear once. | 11:11 |
| seb128 | Laney, libgee-dev should depends on gir...-gee-... | 11:11 |
| pedro_ | seb128, cool, thanks! | 11:11 |
| ricotz | Laney, add a builddepend on gir1.2-gee-1.0 or libgee-dev | 11:11 |
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| Laney | seb128: a bug in gee then? | 11:11 |
| seb128 | Laney, yes | 11:11 |
| Laney | ok | 11:11 |
| ricotz | seb128, no | 11:11 |
| seb128 | Laney, new debian policy, the -dev should depends on the gir | 11:11 |
| seb128 | Laney, do you want me to fix it? | 11:11 |
| Laney | would be easier if you don't mind | 11:11 |
| ricotz | i think libgee is depend on it | 11:11 |
| seb128 | will do | 11:11 |
| seb128 | ricotz, | 11:12 |
| seb128 | $ apt-cache show libgee-dev | grep Depends | 11:12 |
| seb128 | Depends: libgee2 (= 0.6.1-2ubuntu1), libglib2.0-dev (>= 2.12.0) | 11:12 |
| ricotz | iirc, gee isnt a real build-dep of g-s | 11:12 |
| seb128 | no | 11:12 |
| ricotz | hmm, i see | 11:12 |
| seb128 | well in any case that's buggy, I will add the gir depends | 11:12 |
| ricotz | but still it is only a introspection dep which isnt checked in configure | 11:13 |
| Laney | g-s doesn't have the build-dep either, true | 11:13 |
| Laney | but you should only be depending on the -dev, right? | 11:13 |
| Laney | build-depending | 11:13 |
| ricotz | Laney, actually gir1.2-gee-1.0 | 11:13 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, pedro_: could you discuss what infos would be useful for g-s-d and g-c-c bugs? we might want to improve the hook to let select the type of bug, i.e if it's the sound, screen, etc and tag them or add upower and colord etc logs? | 11:14 |
| ricotz | Laney, look at https://edge.launchpad.net/~ricotz/+archive/testing/+files/gnome-shell_3.1.91%2Bgit20110908.5e220e9e-0ubuntu1%7E11.10%7Ericotz0.debian.tar.gz | 11:14 |
| seb128 | Laney, yes, the dev depends on the gir so no need to b-d on the gir | 11:14 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, yes, I guess we can guess which plugin is based on the .so | 11:14 |
| ricotz | Laney, ignore the caribou deps though | 11:15 |
| Laney | i know that you could depend on the gir directly, but it seems like the -dev would be better | 11:15 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, yeah, we do that for nautilus for years, I will just copy that part of the hook | 11:15 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, and can we conditionally add colord/upower stuff based on the .so? | 11:15 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, ok! | 11:15 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, then pedro_ can probably improve to add other infos | 11:15 |
| rodrigo_ | .xsession-errors is useful also | 11:15 |
| ricotz | Laney, yeah, will need a gee update first then | 11:15 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, do we need those conditionally? we could just include some standard logs for all g-c-c and g-s-d bugs | 11:15 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, well, they don't make sense for the sound plugin, for instance, but I guess it's ok | 11:16 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, well the issue is that you get the .so info only for segfaults | 11:17 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, not for bugs like "the screen doesn't dim as it should" | 11:17 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, the other option would be to have an apport question "what is your issue" and list | 11:18 |
| seb128 | - display | 11:18 |
| seb128 | - sound | 11:18 |
| seb128 | - color | 11:18 |
| seb128 | etc | 11:18 |
| seb128 | or the common ones and "others" | 11:18 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, but collecting some infos and adding a few logs to the bug in any case doesn't cost a lot | 11:18 |
| seb128 | the commands are cheap to run and the log are small enough | 11:19 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, yeah, right | 11:20 |
| rodrigo_ | better to have more info than lack of :) | 11:21 |
| seb128 | pedro_, ^ can you think a bit about it and check what logs we might need based on what upstream asked for recent bugs? | 11:22 |
| pedro_ | seb128, yup, will review some bugs to see if there are common patterns we can automate in the hook | 11:23 |
| seb128 | pedro_, I guess upowerd can be useful for power bugs, colord log for color bugs | 11:23 |
| seb128 | pedro_, xrandr for display | 11:24 |
| jml | Sometimes my screen jitters. Like it moves down then up again really quickly. | 11:27 |
| jml | It's new in the last week or so. | 11:27 |
| jml | How can I file a useful bug about this? | 11:27 |
| jml | (I can't see to make it do so on demand) | 11:28 |
| seb128 | jml, look for apport files and .xsession-errors errors when it happens | 11:29 |
| seb128 | jml, one possibility is that the unity-panel-service goes down, the menu would go back in the applications when that happens, it respawns and the menus and export to unity again | 11:30 |
| seb128 | jml, that can give a "things jump on screen" effect | 11:30 |
| seb128 | the menus | 11:30 |
| jml | seb128: ah, ok, that might be it. where would I look for apport files? | 11:31 |
| seb128 | jml, /var/crash | 11:31 |
| jml | (also, .xsession-errors is showing this error over and over again, http://paste.ubuntu.com/685185/) | 11:31 |
| jml | seb128: ta | 11:31 |
| seb128 | jml, ~/.xsession-errors also | 11:31 |
| seb128 | yw | 11:31 |
| seb128 | hum, seems an apport bug | 11:31 |
| seb128 | pitti, ^ | 11:31 |
| seb128 | n = GLib.markup_escape_text(n).decode('UTF-8') | 11:31 |
| seb128 | File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/gi/types.py", line 44, in function | 11:31 |
| seb128 | return info.invoke(*args) | 11:31 |
| seb128 | TypeError: markup_escape_text() takes exactly 2 argument(s) (1 given) | 11:31 |
| seb128 | ok, lunch time | 11:32 |
| seb128 | bbl | 11:32 |
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| pitti | jml: are you on current oneiric? that apport bug was fixed a while ago | 12:03 |
| jml | pitti: fsvo 'current' | 12:07 |
| jml | pitti: I mean, I haven't upgraded since yesterday | 12:07 |
| pitti | jml: yesterday should be fine, though | 12:07 |
| pitti | glib was updated the day before | 12:08 |
| czajkowski | pitti: if it's the same issue as I had yesterday, saw it again on start up today, killed it and it seems to have died. | 12:08 |
| pitti | well, might still be laggy mirror | 12:08 |
| jml | pitti: archive.ubuntu.com? | 12:08 |
| pitti | jml: no, that should be fine | 12:08 |
| jml | oh, no, glib updates in the upgrade I'm doing now. | 12:08 |
| pitti | czajkowski: I don't think it is; you had something else | 12:08 |
| czajkowski | ah ok | 12:09 |
| czajkowski | I am getting tempted to wipe this machine and put a fresh install on it. it started off as a Karmic machine. But I dont want to lose all my thunderbird emails/folders/settings/rules | 12:09 |
| Tommeh | czajkowski: IIRC it works well enough just backing up your /home/username/.thunderbird folder ? | 12:11 |
| Tommeh | Backing-up/restoring | 12:11 |
| czajkowski | hmm tempting I seem to find quirky bugs on this machine every time I upgrade | 12:11 |
| Tommeh | I used to run fakeraid. Upgrades were always fun :) | 12:11 |
| pitti | czajkowski: my /home/ is still from pre-warty :) | 12:12 |
| * pitti keeps /home on a separate partition | 12:12 | |
| czajkowski | smart | 12:12 |
| Tommeh | Dedication | 12:12 |
| pitti | czajkowski: but if you just have one big one, you can still reinstall | 12:12 |
| pitti | in the manual install, select your current one, but don't format it | 12:12 |
| czajkowski | ahh ok | 12:12 |
| czajkowski | good to know. Thanks | 12:12 |
| pitti | ubiquity will then keep /home etc., just replace /usr and so on | 12:12 |
| Tommeh | pitti: neat | 12:12 |
| czajkowski | pitti: you make it sound soo simple :) | 12:13 |
| * Tommeh would still rsync /home to somewhere else :) | 12:13 | |
| Tommeh | Just in case. | 12:13 |
| pitti | czajkowski: well, I reinstall my machine two times a cycle for testing; it needs to be simple :) | 12:13 |
| pitti | Tommeh: yeah, always better | 12:13 |
| czajkowski | fair point | 12:13 |
| czajkowski | actually anyone else notice when your laptop is pluged in and charging and full it no longer looks like it's plugged into mains | 12:14 |
| pitti | I collect all my extra setup in http://piware.de/bzr/bin/postinst-setup | 12:14 |
| czajkowski | it's like as if you disconnected it and have a full battery | 12:14 |
| pitti | so after a virgin ubuntu install I just run that, and get my working environment back | 12:14 |
| pitti | czajkowski: sounds similar to what didrocks observed | 12:15 |
| didrocks | indeed | 12:16 |
| czajkowski | pitti: it's flipping annoying and confusing as I forget I'm plugged in and go and yank my machine and realise i'm pugged in | 12:16 |
| czajkowski | didrocks: did you file a bug so I cna mark effects moi | 12:16 |
| didrocks | czajkowski: no, was waiting to confirm it's still the case, and yes, it is, jjardon, what do you need already? upower -d ? | 12:17 |
| didrocks | jjardon: http://paste.ubuntu.com/685221/ already | 12:18 |
| seb128 | re | 12:19 |
| didrocks | re seb128 | 12:20 |
| seb128 | hey didrocks ;-) | 12:20 |
| jjardon | didrocks: so this is the output of upower -d and you didnt see any icon? | 12:22 |
| didrocks | jjardon: right | 12:22 |
| jjardon | didrocks: thats strange, because the battery is not even fully charged | 12:28 |
| didrocks | jjardon: hum, I'm plugged for some hours now | 12:28 |
| didrocks | jjardon: if I unplug it, it will start at 99% | 12:29 |
| jjardon | didrocks: this should be your output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/685229/ note the "state: fully-charged" line | 12:30 |
| jjardon | Id file a bug against upower | 12:30 |
| pitti | seb128: do you still happen to remember why we need the extra postinst in bug 719861? | 12:31 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 719861 in librsvg "After installation icon theme default to gnome-icon-theme and cannot be changed" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/719861 | 12:31 |
| didrocks | jjardon: so, anyway, I should see the indicator still, isn't it? | 12:31 |
| pitti | seb128: that (and a rather obvious patch) are our remaining delta, and I'd like to commit it to Debian | 12:32 |
| jjardon | didrocks: yeah, you should | 12:32 |
| didrocks | jjardon: what do you need for debugging? | 12:32 |
| didrocks | jjardon: seems czajkowski has the same issue (fully charged, nothing shown) | 12:32 |
| jjardon | didrocks: Do you can see the icon before, or the behaviour changed after some updates? | 12:32 |
| jjardon | I asking because the upower package has not been updated for some time | 12:33 |
| seb128 | pitti, because we have no garantee the gdk-pixbuf trigger will be in place by the time librsvg is unpackaged | 12:33 |
| seb128 | unpacked | 12:33 |
| jjardon | indicator-power I mean | 12:33 |
| seb128 | pitti, which in practice leads to have no svg loader registered after installation | 12:33 |
| pitti | seb128: ah, thanks! | 12:33 |
| pitti | seb128: because librsvg doesn't depend on gdk-pixbuf | 12:34 |
| seb128 | pitti, yw | 12:34 |
| pitti | (and shouldn't) | 12:34 |
| seb128 | right | 12:34 |
| pitti | well, actually it does | 12:34 |
| didrocks | jjardon: it's there for a month I would say, I was thinking it was the normal behavior | 12:34 |
| didrocks | jjardon: like, fully charged, no more icon | 12:34 |
| seb128 | pitti, we discussed,debugged it for a while with you and cjwatson previous cycle and didn't come to a better solution, I think I summarize the issue in bug by then | 12:35 |
| czajkowski | didrocks: I've only upgraded since saturday for UGJ been bugging me since | 12:35 |
| pitti | seb128: yes, I remember that we figured out why it happened, and that we need the postinst, I just don't remember | 12:35 |
| pitti | seb128: the dependency to libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0 is there | 12:35 |
| seb128 | pitti, read comment #9 | 12:37 |
| pitti | seb128: oh, -common has the trigger, not the lib | 12:37 |
| seb128 | pitti, there was also that libgl issue, the trigger failed on missing lib | 12:38 |
| seb128 | pitti, that's probably workaround in natty and oneiric since we build cairo without gl again | 12:38 |
| pitti | seb128: hah, tricky | 12:38 |
| seb128 | workarounded | 12:38 |
| jjardon | seb128: seems that libtiff4-dev has a unmet dependency: libjpeg-dev | 12:39 |
| jjardon | (I have libjpeg8-dev installed) | 12:39 |
| seb128 | jjardon, install libjpeg62-dev | 12:41 |
| jjardon | seb128: that worked, thanks | 12:42 |
| seb128 | jjardon, you're welcome ;-) | 12:42 |
| htorque | jjardon: sorry to interrupt, the gap you can see in the screenshot in bug 844377 and that i mentioned for the desktop case has been fixed in unity trunk (at least i'm no longer seeing it). | 12:46 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 844377 in indicator-power "Power/battery indicator no longer showing" [High,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/844377 | 12:46 |
| jjardon | htorque: ok, thanks. You will have the icon again when the new upower package was available | 12:48 |
| jjardon | didrocks: hey, I think I found the problem: seems that your battery is a bit broken so doesnt report the remaining time correctly. I'm working on a fix | 12:53 |
| didrocks | jjardon: more than posible, seems battery don't work really well on inspiron… | 12:54 |
| jjardon | didrocks: Could you file a bug report with the output of upower -d ? Or you already reported the issue? | 12:54 |
| didrocks | jjardon: I didn't yet, doing now | 12:54 |
| jjardon | czajkowski: about your problem, Its a different issue. It will work again when the new upower package was available | 12:55 |
| didrocks | jjardon: bug #844769 | 12:56 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 844769 in indicator-power "No battery icon once fully charged" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/844769 | 12:56 |
| jjardon | didrocks: thanks! | 12:57 |
| czajkowski | jjardon: :( ok | 12:58 |
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| njpatel | jbicha, it was ordered by the module they were in, so [appmenu]<space>[appindicators inc.network-man][message][power][soundmenu][datetime][user][sesion] | 13:35 |
| njpatel | jbicha, and now, we can mix different indicators of modules between eachother, so it's now like: | 13:35 |
| dobey | seb128: ok, who do i have to bug to get all the couchdb stuff demoted? :) | 13:35 |
| njpatel | [appmenu]<space>[appindicator sans network-manager][keyboard][message][power][bluetooth][network][sound][datetime][user][session] | 13:35 |
| njpatel | jbicha, ^ | 13:35 |
| pitti | seb128: I have librsvg ready in Debian, but either I need to update our gtk+2.0, or add code to debian/rules to make the Breaks: conditional; I guess I'll update gtk+2.0 then | 13:35 |
| seb128 | dobey, open a bug, list what you want demoted, subscribe ubuntu-archive | 13:35 |
| seb128 | pitti, there is a new version that need to be packaged for it ;-) | 13:35 |
| dobey | seb128: great, thanks | 13:35 |
| pitti | seb128: yes, that's what I meant | 13:35 |
| dobey | seb128: and i need to list binary packages, not source, right? | 13:35 |
| seb128 | dobey, both ideally | 13:35 |
| cyphermox_ | seb128: finishing up on it now (evo) | 13:35 |
| seb128 | cyphermox_, thanks | 13:35 |
| dobey | seb128: ok | 13:35 |
| seb128 | cyphermox_, would be nice to have it back since it's not starting for 2 days now, which is quite annoying when you need emails for work ;-) | 13:35 |
| cyphermox_ | pfft... use thunderbird ;) | 13:35 |
| seb128 | lol | 13:35 |
| seb128 | it's all a plan | 13:35 |
| cyphermox_ | yup hehe | 13:36 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson promised you beers to break evolution? | 13:36 |
| cyphermox_ | dunno, but maybe I should tax him for beers | 13:36 |
| seb128 | he's lying to you! | 13:36 |
| dobey | chrisccoulson: is the TB extension for the desktopcouch bits packaged? | 13:36 |
| chrisccoulson | dobey, we already ship the eds contacts integration which allows you to access existing addressbooks | 13:40 |
| chrisccoulson | i haven't packaged the thunderbird-couchdb extension yet though, which basically does what the evolution-couchdb plugin does | 13:41 |
| jml | hmm. | 13:45 |
| jml | so this "jittering" doesn't seem to be associated with any crashes | 13:45 |
| jml | and seems more likely when my computer is under load | 13:46 |
| jjardon | didrocks: fix committed | 13:50 |
| didrocks | jjardon: oh nice! | 13:50 |
| jbicha | does ~ubuntu-desktop have archive committing rights for the desktop set? | 13:52 |
| seb128 | jbicha, yes | 13:52 |
| pitti | jbicha: yes, you can dput these packages, too | 13:53 |
| dobey | chrisccoulson: ah ok. it can just stay in universe when you do then :) | 13:53 |
| chrisccoulson | dobey, yeah, that was the plan | 13:57 |
| chrisccoulson | hmmm, wth, metacity has slowed right down here :/ | 13:57 |
| chrisccoulson | moving windows is incredibly jerky | 13:57 |
| jbicha | seb128: ok, I committed to the ubuntu-desktop/vinagre branch, how do I upload? | 13:57 |
| seb128 | jbicha, dput on the .changes | 13:58 |
| chrisccoulson | oh, congratulations btw jbicha | 13:58 |
| seb128 | jbicha, as you would do for a ppa but without the ppa:... ;-) | 13:58 |
| jbicha | chrisccoulson: thanks | 13:58 |
| cyphermox_ | congrats jbicha | 13:59 |
| pitti | jbicha: hang on | 14:00 |
| pitti | jbicha: do you know about the "dch -r / debcommit -r" procedure? | 14:01 |
| pitti | jbicha: i. e. once you upload, the former changes UNRELEASED to oneiric (and updates timestamp, etc.), and the latter commits that change as "release 1.2.3-4" | 14:01 |
| pitti | and tags it with the version number | 14:01 |
| pitti | that way you can reconstruct every upload from bzr | 14:01 |
| pitti | bzr branch -r tag:1.2.3-4 or something | 14:02 |
| jbicha | pitti: thanks, I found that part on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/Bzr | 14:02 |
| jbicha | it didn't mention dput but that apparently is pretty easy | 14:02 |
| pitti | jbicha: right, as that's not special to bzr | 14:03 |
| jbicha | pitti: some changes should have a second person confirm before upload, right? what's the threshold for that? | 14:06 |
| seb128 | jbicha, use your own judgment, when you feel like it would be good to have a second opinion ask there | 14:07 |
| seb128 | jbicha, if you get it wrong we will tell you ;-) | 14:07 |
| seb128 | but if you are unsure ask for the first times and we will tell you if that's a case where you don't need to bother | 14:08 |
| jcastro | Argh! Dobey. | 14:12 |
| jcastro | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/banshee/+bug/788532 | 14:12 |
| ubot2` | Ubuntu bug 788532 in banshee "U1 music store plugin severely delays banshee startup" [Medium,Confirmed] | 14:12 |
| jcastro | this has been your fault the entire time! | 14:12 |
| dobey | jcastro: it's not my fault | 14:16 |
| jcastro | I have a 6gb SATA SSD, it takes like 20 seconds for my banshee to launch | 14:16 |
| jcastro | it takes me longer to launch my music player than to boot my entire laptop | 14:16 |
| dobey | in fact, nothing in the code I wrote for that, should actually be causing it to slow down | 14:17 |
| dobey | at least, not significantly | 14:17 |
| dobey | the code is using asynchronous GIO APIs to scan the files | 14:17 |
| dobey | well, until it has to talk to ubuntuone-syncdaemon, which i think is probably synchronous | 14:18 |
| dobey | if i had an infinite amount of time to make everything perfect, it wouldn't matter anyway, because we wouldn't use banshee as i'd just write a music player that wasn't awful :) | 14:20 |
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| Laney | it hangs for ages waiting for the syncdaemon | 14:24 |
| Laney | you can see that if you start up with --debug | 14:24 |
| jcastro | dobey: ok so basically you don't like the import feature so instead of fixing it you're going to just make the experience suck for everyone else? | 14:27 |
| dobey | jcastro: no, the import feature is a separate problem, and just makes the issue worse | 14:27 |
| dobey | jcastro: the problem is i don't have time to fix it, and the way banshee works makes it basically impossible to do correctly | 14:28 |
| jjardon | I getting this error compiling dbus-glib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/685326/ should I report a bug? | 14:41 |
| tremolux | tremolux | 14:42 |
| tremolux | (is me) ;) | 14:42 |
| czajkowski | davmor2: found that bug number which duplicates a search in the Sw center? | 14:45 |
| czajkowski | *search results | 14:45 |
| chrisccoulson | tremolux, are you talking to yourself? ;) | 14:45 |
| davmor2 | czajkowski: theres a couple | 14:45 |
| czajkowski | davmor2: more duplicates :p | 14:45 |
| tremolux | chrisccoulson: indeed :p | 14:45 |
| chrisccoulson | tremolux, perhaps you need a vacation :) | 14:46 |
| tremolux | czajkowski: do you mean this one: bug 840235 | 14:46 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 840235 in software-center "When entering software name in search text field ex."VLC" 2 search results with the same name appear" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/840235 | 14:46 |
| czajkowski | tremolux: yes happenign in oneiric | 14:47 |
| czajkowski | *happening | 14:47 |
| davmor2 | czajkowski: couple of bugs If you have time to look at them, bug 840235 and bug 830508 the latter should be fixed | 14:47 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 830508 in software-center "s-c shows duplicate packages (i386 multiarch on amd64 install)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/830508 | 14:47 |
| czajkowski | really shouldn't eat while typing | 14:47 |
| jpds | Surely you shouldn't type, while eating? | 14:47 |
| rodrigo_ | so, what's the libunity version with the new/broken API? | 14:47 |
| tremolux | czajkowski: the duplicated search results issue, bug 840235, is fixed in trunk and we plan to release tomorrow | 14:48 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 840235 in software-center "When entering software name in search text field ex."VLC" 2 search results with the same name appear" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/840235 | 14:48 |
| czajkowski | tremolux: grand so I shouldn't comment on it now so ? | 14:48 |
| davmor2 | jpds: czajkowski name is Laura not Shirley (doesn't work as well when you need to type it) | 14:48 |
| czajkowski | davmor2: next time you're in Millbank I will come in ther and give you such a wallop! | 14:49 |
| tremolux | czajkowski: the multiarch bug, bug 830508, is a database issue and is not yet fixed | 14:49 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 830508 in software-center "s-c shows duplicate packages (i386 multiarch on amd64 install)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/830508 | 14:49 |
| jpds | czajkowski: A /wallops ? | 14:49 |
| tremolux | ha! "wallop", I love that word | 14:49 |
| lucas71 | test | 14:49 |
| lucas71 | hello everyone | 14:49 |
| lucas71 | could you tell me how to late "listening" of line-in | 14:50 |
| czajkowski | tremolux: I have others, but can't use them in here! but all are appropiate towards davmor2 :) | 14:50 |
| davmor2 | tremolux: you won't love it so much if you're on the receiving end ;) | 14:50 |
| chrisccoulson | "wallop"? It's all getting a bit violent in here isn't it? ;) | 14:50 |
| chrisccoulson | this is usually a wonderful, friendly and happy place :) | 14:50 |
| davmor2 | chrisccoulson: I bring out the best in people :D | 14:51 |
| chrisccoulson | lol | 14:51 |
| tremolux | :-D | 14:51 |
| czajkowski | chrisccoulson: there is a reason I created other channels when I need t properly express myself in my irish way :) | 14:51 |
| chrisccoulson | heh :) | 14:51 |
| seb128 | jjardon, let me check | 14:56 |
| rodrigo_ | so, libunity broke the API but it still has the same so version? | 14:57 |
| seb128 | pitti, it seems you didn't push your gnome-icon-theme update to the vcs, do you still have it on disk and can push or should I just import the revision? | 14:57 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, no, it has a new soname, it didn't get uploaded yet though | 14:57 |
| rodrigo_ | ah | 14:57 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, it's a preventive "work coming today" from didrocks ;-) | 14:58 |
| rodrigo_ | ok | 14:58 |
| dobey | anyone want to do an easy sponsoring? :) https://code.launchpad.net/~dobey/ubuntu/oneiric/banshee/suggest-u1ms/+merge/74618 | 15:04 |
| seb128 | Laney, ^ | 15:05 |
| seb128 | cyphermox_, thanks for the evolution updates! | 15:10 |
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| dobey | wtf | 15:14 |
| dobey | launchpad gives me a permissions error when i try to move a bug to ubuntu/thunderbird | 15:14 |
| seb128 | what bug? | 15:15 |
| dobey | chrisccoulson: it must be your fault | 15:15 |
| seb128 | i.e bug number | 15:15 |
| dobey | bug #743096 | 15:15 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 743096 in ubuntuone-client "contacts only sync with evolution not with thunderbird" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/743096 | 15:15 |
| chrisccoulson | it's always my fault ;) | 15:15 |
| dobey | was trying to move it and assign to chrisccoulson and mark as fix committed | 15:15 |
| dobey | weird | 15:15 |
| seb128 | dobey, do you select the * distribution and enter a package name? | 15:15 |
| chrisccoulson | dobey, is desktopcouch working now? | 15:16 |
| seb128 | rather than the * project | 15:16 |
| dobey | it worked if i assigned to nobody instead of chrisccoulson | 15:16 |
| dobey | chrisccoulson: no, but tb works with e-d-s already right? | 15:16 |
| chrisccoulson | dobey, yeah | 15:16 |
| dobey | chrisccoulson: so if it's already set up, the fix in thunderbird is "committed" :) | 15:16 |
| dobey | or released even, but desktopcouch is still busted | 15:17 |
| dobey | seb128: ah, right, stupid launchpad UI keeps confusing me with that :( | 15:17 |
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| chrisccoulson | dobey, i've kept the tbird task open for now, so i can use that for tracking the packaging of the thunderbird-couchdb addon | 15:20 |
| dobey | chrisccoulson: ok. i just wanted to move it off of ubuntuone-client, which it is clearly unrelated to :) | 15:21 |
| chrisccoulson | sure, no problem :) | 15:21 |
| chrisccoulson | dobey, is there a bug for tracking the desktopcouch bustage? | 15:23 |
| chrisccoulson | we should be tracking that for oneiric really, if people are expecting U1 contact sync to work in tbird | 15:23 |
| chrisccoulson | bug 825280 is caused by it | 15:24 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 825280 in thunderbird "Repeated Ubuntu One address book errors" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/825280 | 15:24 |
| dobey | chrisccoulson: yes, mark any bugs like that as dup of 817656 | 15:24 |
| chrisccoulson | thanks | 15:24 |
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| chrisccoulson | hmmm, i should probably review the couchdb merge, seeing as i did the spidermonkey 1.8.5 port | 15:31 |
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| dobey | well i just dded the ffe bits to that bug. will file the demotion bug as soon as i return from lunch :) | 15:32 |
| jjardon | seb128: nevermind | 15:32 |
| jjardon | seems to be fixed in the current dbus-glib package | 15:32 |
| jjardon | https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34282 | 15:32 |
| ubot2` | Freedesktop bug 34282 in GLib "[PATCH] Fix linking order" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] | 15:32 |
| seb128 | jjardon, sorry I got busy with other things and forgot about that | 15:33 |
| seb128 | jjardon, we have this version in oneiric no? | 15:33 |
| seb128 | jjardon, what did you try to build before? | 15:33 |
| jjardon | seb128: the version gnome has in jhbuild | 15:34 |
| seb128 | oh ok | 15:34 |
| seb128 | jhbuild probably needs an update then | 15:34 |
| seb128 | ;-) | 15:34 |
| jjardon | seb128: yeah ;) | 15:34 |
| jjardon | seb128: ubuntu has the up-to-date package with the fix: 0.94 | 15:35 |
| seb128 | great | 15:35 |
| chrisccoulson | right, exercise time | 15:37 |
| chrisccoulson | back in an hour or so | 15:37 |
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| seb128 | chrisccoulson, "enjoy"? ;-) | 15:38 |
| chrisccoulson | lol | 15:38 |
| chrisccoulson | actually, it's starting to make quite a refreshing change from drinking beer ;) | 15:38 |
| chrisccoulson | and i'm 7kg lighter for it :) | 15:39 |
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| seb128 | chrisccoulson, nice! keep in this way! | 15:40 |
| seb128 | what sort of exercice do you do? | 15:40 |
| rickspencer3 | chrisccoulson, I agree with seb128, I've felt so much better and more productive since I've been exercising regularly | 15:40 |
| rickspencer3 | though, I haven't exactly *replaced* beer drinking with exercise | 15:41 |
| rickspencer3 | more of a supplement ;) | 15:41 |
| seb128 | tremolux, pitti: will software-center will have its binary renamed "software-center" for oneiric? | 15:41 |
| * ronoc listens | 15:42 | |
| seb128 | tremolux, pitti: ronoc is asking what command the indicator-session entry should call | 15:42 |
| tremolux | seb128: yes, that's done now and in trunk | 15:42 |
| seb128 | ronoc, ^ | 15:42 |
| tremolux | ronoc, seb128: release is planned for tomorrow around this time | 15:42 |
| ronoc | tremolux, seb128, sweet | 15:42 |
| ronoc | seb128, is it okay to put that into my release today, things will 'break' for 21 hours | 15:43 |
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| seb128 | ronoc, yeah | 15:43 |
| ronoc | grand | 15:43 |
| seb128 | ronoc, just put "will be fixed in the next s-c update" | 15:43 |
| ronoc | will do | 15:43 |
| jbicha | njpatel: do you know if the bluetooth indicator menu is planned to be moved as well? | 15:44 |
| tremolux | ronoc, seb128: thanks guys :) | 15:44 |
| njpatel | jbicha, yeah, it's inbetween power and network now | 15:44 |
| ronoc | np :) | 15:45 |
| jbicha | njpatel: thanks | 15:45 |
| ronoc | tremolux, I don't actually have to make any changes for that anyway, it was 'software-center' all along :) | 15:53 |
| tremolux | ronoc: ah, great! | 15:53 |
| pitti | dobey: ooh, couchdb into universe? +1000 | 16:08 |
| pitti | dobey: but won't it be pulled in through the ubuntuone-installer? | 16:08 |
| rodrigo_ | pitti, dobey: the new one from debian? | 16:08 |
| pitti | or do you stop using it now? | 16:08 |
| seb128 | pitti, did you see my g-i-t question? | 16:09 |
| pitti | seb128: oops, pushing | 16:09 |
| seb128 | pitti, danke | 16:09 |
| pitti | seb128: done, sorry | 16:09 |
| seb128 | no worry, thanks | 16:10 |
| pitti | seb128: still catching up with IRC, I was out for a bit | 16:10 |
| pitti | (and shouldn't really be working any more, but erk the new gtk2 doesn't build any more) | 16:10 |
| seb128 | pitti, (that can wait tomorrow) | 16:10 |
| pitti | yeah, and I'll stop as soon as Annett is done with her mail reading | 16:11 |
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| dobey | pitti: installed by the installer for now, yes | 16:25 |
| pitti | dobey: hm, but as long as U1 actually relies on them, they ought to be in main IMHO | 16:25 |
| dobey | pitti: but putting it in universe will be easier for everyone i think | 16:25 |
| pitti | they have to be maintained either way | 16:25 |
| dpm_ | mterry, rickspencer3, all set for your UADW sessions later on? | 16:26 |
| dobey | pitti: yes, but in universe we don't need MIRs for new versions of couchdb (which i don't really understand why we'd need anyway) | 16:26 |
| pitti | dobey: you don't need a MIR for new versions | 16:26 |
| mterry | dpm_, yeah, have to look up the classroom commands again though :) | 16:26 |
| pitti | dobey: you need an FFE, and that applies to universe as well | 16:26 |
| rickspencer3 | dpm_, yes | 16:27 |
| dobey | pitti: then why did dholbach mention the MainInclusionProcess on the couchdb merge? | 16:27 |
| rickspencer3 | I have way too much content, as usual | 16:27 |
| dobey | pitti: oh, because of the new dep which is in universe | 16:27 |
| dpm_ | mterry, cool, if you've got any trouble with the commands, just ask on #ubuntu-classroom-backstage | 16:27 |
| dpm_ | rickspencer3, cool. Too much content is good, I'm sure we can make another tutorial out of that! | 16:28 |
| * pitti -> dinner; will just return for the TB meeting today, otherwise TTFN | 16:28 | |
| dobey | cheers pitti | 16:28 |
| dobey | anyway, i think it's best to move couchdb to universe | 16:29 |
| pitti | dobey: I think it'd be best if U1 stopped using it :) | 16:29 |
| pitti | it seems it causes quite a lot of trouble all along? or is that a wrong impression? | 16:29 |
| dobey | pitti: i won't disagree with that. :) | 16:29 |
| seb128 | pitti, well u1 can go to universe | 16:30 |
| seb128 | pitti, since they only want their installer on the CD | 16:30 |
| seb128 | pitti, which can fetch couchdb, etc from universe | 16:30 |
| pitti | seb128: that feels weird to me, though | 16:30 |
| pitti | seb128: given how much of a frontline feature we sell this as, it really ought to be officially supported | 16:30 |
| dobey | yeah i'm fine with only the couchdb stuff being in universe, and the other stuff in main | 16:30 |
| rickspencer3 | I have to agree with pitti | 16:31 |
| rickspencer3 | it seems weird to have UI in the default install that basically begs the user to install desktopcouch | 16:31 |
| rickspencer3 | and then have desktopcouch not supported | 16:31 |
| rickspencer3 | (assuming I'm following the conversation correctly) | 16:31 |
| dobey | well the definition of "supported" is somewhat vague here | 16:32 |
| dobey | we (u1 team) have to support it no matter where we put it | 16:32 |
| pitti | right, so it should be in main | 16:32 |
| pitti | and I'd really would prefer having it at least on the DVDs | 16:33 |
| pitti | it's quite handy to try it on a live system | 16:33 |
| dobey | well feel free to argue with chipaca/cparrino on that front :) | 16:33 |
| seb128 | rickspencer3, well, it feel weird to me that we drop u1 from the CD to put an installer to start with | 16:34 |
| pitti | it just seems like "we actually totally rely on couchdb right now, but we don't want to" :) | 16:34 |
| pitti | seb128++ | 16:35 |
| rodrigo_ | the u1 team are looking at replacements for couchdb, btw | 16:35 |
| pitti | \o/ | 16:35 |
| * pitti -> really off now | 16:36 | |
| rickspencer3 | bye pitti | 16:36 |
| rickspencer3 | seb128, well, U1 has no purpose without a network connection | 16:36 |
| seb128 | 'night pitti | 16:36 |
| rickspencer3 | and not everyone wants the features | 16:36 |
| rickspencer3 | AND it's hard to update as fast as they need | 16:36 |
| seb128 | rickspencer3, same with a webbrowser | 16:37 |
| rickspencer3 | so, I think the installer way was a good solution | 16:37 |
| seb128 | or an email client | 16:37 |
| seb128 | or an im client | 16:37 |
| seb128 | or gwibber | 16:37 |
| seb128 | or ... | 16:37 |
| seb128 | ;-) | 16:37 |
| rickspencer3 | indeed | 16:37 |
| rickspencer3 | but you need a browser to get started | 16:37 |
| rickspencer3 | and their is local content | 16:37 |
| dobey | that's why the first thing i do after install is a bunch of apt-get remove stuff | 16:37 |
| dobey | to get started with what? | 16:38 |
| dobey | solitaire doesn't need you to have firefox :) | 16:38 |
| didrocks | ok, so gwibber only builds with old vala | 16:41 |
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| rodrigo_ | didrocks, with 0-12? | 16:46 |
| didrocks | yeah | 16:46 |
| seb128 | didrocks, that's fine, we will keep both versions this cycle | 16:47 |
| rodrigo_ | ah ok, I thought I had broken it with the last 0.13 upload | 16:47 |
| seb128 | and they are not runtime requirements | 16:47 |
| seb128 | so not on the CD | 16:47 |
| didrocks | seb128: yeah, just frustrating when you have already a lot building in // and have to restart one :) | 16:47 |
| seb128 | yeah, gwibber is small enough so that's ok ;-) | 16:48 |
| seb128 | it could be firefox! | 16:48 |
| didrocks | seb128: not small enough when you have 5 // builds :p | 16:49 |
| rodrigo_ | out for bit, later all | 16:54 |
| didrocks | see you rodrigo_ | 16:55 |
| micahg | is it known that restart required no longer appears in unity-2d? | 16:58 |
| micahg | didrocks: ^^ | 17:02 |
| didrocks | micahg: it's by design | 17:03 |
| didrocks | micahg: it's in the shurtdown dialog | 17:03 |
| micahg | orly? how do people know when to reboot | 17:03 |
| didrocks | shutdown* | 17:03 |
| didrocks | micahg: ah, you mean, the additional entry when a restart is required after a kernel upgrade for instance? | 17:04 |
| micahg | didrocks: no, I mean about after updates that a reboot is required | 17:04 |
| didrocks | micahg: I didn't check the spec, but better to check with ronoc | 17:04 |
| micahg | is he around? | 17:04 |
| ronoc | here i am | 17:04 |
| micahg | ronoc: so, what do you think about the above? | 17:05 |
| ronoc | micahg, I think that todays release 'should' fix it but considering the grief I had to try to get any sort of deterministic behaviour out of the apt dbus api bugs may appear yes | 17:06 |
| micahg | ronoc: which version is that so I can make sure to check later? | 17:06 |
| ronoc | micahg, 0.3.5 , ill release in a bit | 17:07 |
| * micahg guesses a better question is version of what... | 17:07 | |
| ronoc | indicator-session | 17:07 |
| micahg | ronoc: ok, thanks | 17:08 |
| ronoc | micahg, np | 17:08 |
| * micahg will try to postpone rebooting until then | 17:08 | |
| chrisccoulson | that's better | 17:28 |
| dobey | Laney: btw, did you not see https://code.launchpad.net/~dobey/ubuntu/oneiric/banshee/suggest-u1ms/+merge/74618 ? | 17:36 |
| Laney | dobey: nope | 17:41 |
| Laney | you don't even /want/ it shipped by default, then? | 17:41 |
| dobey | Laney: ubuntuone-installer is the only thing we want installed by default, and it will install the ubuntu one pieces | 17:43 |
| Laney | ok | 17:44 |
| Laney | if that bug doesn't get fixed I expect we might want to release note it | 17:44 |
| dobey | well i don't have time to fix it for oneiric | 17:45 |
| Laney | maybe my bug is a different one though | 17:45 |
| Laney | I get "** (Banshee:13414): DEBUG: Syncdaemon not running, waiting for it to start in NameOwnerChanged | 17:45 |
| Laney | " | 17:45 |
| Laney | and then it stops for about 20 seconds | 17:46 |
| dobey | hmm | 17:46 |
| Laney | and then a timeout | 17:46 |
| dobey | i think your bug is different then | 17:46 |
| Laney | (it is correct that I'm probably not running the syncdaemon though) | 17:46 |
| dobey | but perhaps similar | 17:46 |
| Laney | ** (Banshee:13414): WARNING **: Error rescanning Purchased Music: No such file or directory | 17:46 |
| Laney | and the store just says "Cannot resolve proxy hostname ()" | 17:47 |
| chrisccoulson | is there debhelper magic for installing apport hooks? | 17:48 |
| dobey | Laney: ok, i think you perhaps have a separate issue then | 17:48 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, sudo apt-get install dh-apport | 17:49 |
| Laney | I'm running a custom session, maybe that has something to do with why you can't start the syncdaemon | 17:49 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, thanks | 17:49 |
| Laney | anyway, whatever the reason is the extension shouldn't block the UI for that long and should probably just fail to load if it's not going to work | 17:49 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, yw | 17:49 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, I tend to just list the hook in the .install though, I don't see much of the point to add a build-depends and an helper instead ;-) | 17:50 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, it's probably easier for me to just do that :) | 17:50 |
| chrisccoulson | i'm going to add a hook to all the mozilla extensions in the archive, which will just gather all the info provided by the firefox hook | 17:50 |
| seb128 | would be nice to have dh_apport in debhelper rather than a different build-depends | 17:51 |
| nigelb | rickspencer3: Ahoy! | 17:51 |
| rickspencer3 | hi nigelb | 17:51 |
| rickspencer3 | I'm coming, be there soon ;) | 17:51 |
| nigelb | rickspencer3: could you join #ubuntu-classroom, #ubuntu-classroom-backstage, and #ubuntu-classroom-chat? | 17:51 |
| nigelb | heh :) | 17:51 |
| rickspencer3 | nigelb, give me just a couple of minutes | 17:51 |
| rickspencer3 | I'll be right there | 17:51 |
| nigelb | sure, np. 10 mins to go :) | 17:52 |
| didrocks | pitti: seb128: FYI, unity-2d last release is broken (places segfault), and as it's tightly linked with the new unity and the whole 11 packages set, I will upload tomorrow morning with an unity-2d fix (no more dx guys around) | 17:53 |
| pitti | didrocks: nod | 17:53 |
| seb128 | didrocks, or just break unity-2d for the night ;-) | 17:53 |
| didrocks | seb128: not really, I don't break things :-) | 17:53 |
| pitti | meh, gtk+2.0 also failing on missing docs | 17:53 |
| pitti | what the heck broke ther? | 17:53 |
| pitti | e | 17:54 |
| seb128 | didrocks, updates would be set on hold anyway | 17:54 |
| seb128 | didrocks, it would give you other things built during the night and unity-3d testers | 17:54 |
| seb128 | but ok, your call | 17:54 |
| didrocks | seb128: yeah, and people making partial upgrades and such, I know the song :) | 17:54 |
| seb128 | didrocks, well, you make unhappy people either way | 17:54 |
| seb128 | but your call | 17:54 |
| didrocks | let's delay on tomorrow morning the whole release | 17:54 |
| seb128 | ok | 17:55 |
| didrocks | pitti: seb128: I uploaded to the ubuntu-desktop ppa and launched a call for testing on the french forum warning about unity-2d to not loose a day of testing | 18:23 |
| ricotz | didrocks, hi, do you know if there is a guide how the ubuntu iso builing is working? | 18:29 |
| didrocks | ricotz: it's based on seeds, you should first check them | 18:30 |
| ricotz | meaning which branches and scripts are involved | 18:30 |
| didrocks | ricotz: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeedManagement those are the sources, then, we have some tools in the data server using those sources. | 18:30 |
| ricotz | i see, and they use the debian-cd scripts | 18:31 |
| didrocks | ricotz: right, IIRC, we have some modification to it | 18:32 |
| didrocks | ricotz: cjwatson is definitively the one to ask about it | 18:32 |
| ricotz | yeah there is a special ubuntu branch of it | 18:32 |
| ricotz | didrocks, ok | 18:33 |
| seb128 | didrocks, thanks | 18:34 |
| * didrocks heads to dinner now, see you tomorrow guys! | 18:35 | |
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| mterry | tedg, you giving a talk in 9 minutes? | 18:52 |
| tedg | mterry, Yup, preparing notes :-) | 18:52 |
| mterry | tedg, join #ubuntu-classroom-backstage | 18:53 |
| dobey | mterry: you suck at change descriptions btw. :) | 18:58 |
| mterry | dobey, how do you mean? | 18:59 |
| dobey | mterry: your changelog for https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntuone-couch/0.2.0-0ubuntu4 makes it seem like our server is broken | 18:59 |
| dobey | mterry: had a user a bit confused/worried yesterday about stuff somehow magically becoming insecure, after reading the changelog in update-manager | 19:00 |
| mterry | people read those?! :) | 19:00 |
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| dobey | hrmm, i think apport is broken maybe. have a bug where it seems to have ignored the crashdb config | 20:32 |
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| Trevinho | Anyone using unity with two monitors here? | 21:30 |
| OwaisL | Trevinho, I use it occasionally. | 21:33 |
| Trevinho | OwaisL: since I'd need some feedback on latest trunk | 21:33 |
| Trevinho | first, where the indicators should show? Always on the left-most screen? | 21:34 |
| Trevinho | (right edge, of course) | 21:34 |
| Trevinho | Or better... Configure this scenario: two screens put one near the other... | 21:34 |
| OwaisL | I like them on both screens but that's personal I mean I don't have to turn my head to check the status of an app but on left most makes sense too. | 21:37 |
| OwaisL | but again their are people who use even 3 monitors, it would be troublesome to travel from 3rd monitor to first just to click transmission | 21:38 |
| OwaisL | Trevinho, ^ | 21:38 |
| Trevinho | OwaisL: ok... I could agree with you about that | 21:45 |
| Trevinho | but now I'd more need the de-facto status | 21:45 |
| Trevinho | since, I guess there's something wrong in the current trunk | 21:45 |
| Trevinho | so, the menus, for each, application.... Are there in the screen they belong to, isn't it? | 21:46 |
| Trevinho | you | 21:46 |
| OwaisL | right, indicators on all screens and menu only on current makes most sense for me | 21:47 |
| Trevinho | but OwaisL I would like to know how they are now.where are the the menus? | 21:49 |
| OwaisL | Oh, I did not pay attention to menu on other screens so don't know if they are there too and I can only confirm in the morning. Lying cozily in the bed right now. Sorry! | 21:50 |
| Trevinho | Ah, ok... no problem | 21:52 |
| Trevinho | thank you anyway | 21:52 |
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| Sweetshark | jasoncwarner_: ping? | 23:06 |
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