| joelesko | micahg: | 06:06 |
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| joelesko | micahg: I'm wondering where the mercurial source tree is for the current seamonkey. It should be the same place as Thunderbird. | 06:08 |
| micahg | joelesko: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/comm-release/ | 06:09 |
| joelesko | Thank you. Finally I see it. I think the wiki page needs to be updated. | 06:10 |
| joelesko | Have to localized TB? | 06:12 |
| micahg | joelesko: ? | 06:15 |
| micahg | joelesko: our wiki? | 06:15 |
| joelesko | no, the Mozilla wiki pages for code are out of date. They kept pointing to the top branches | 06:16 |
| micahg | heh, yeah, well, this just started a few months ago | 06:16 |
| joelesko | I think with the 2.2 I gave up looking for the repo and just grabbed the tar source files | 06:17 |
| joelesko | I was wondering what happened, but no time to research | 06:18 |
| joelesko | Are you using the new build system as firefox? | 06:19 |
| * micahg doesn't understand the question | 06:19 | |
| micahg | joelesko: BTW, you need to mirror thunderbird, not firefox for the tarball creation | 06:20 |
| joelesko | You or chris told me to look at ~mozillateam/firefox/firefox-trunk.head | 06:21 |
| joelesko | I think I'm finding that out. | 06:22 |
| joelesko | Is ThunderBird using the same type of system as Firefox? | 06:23 |
| joelesko | It used to rely on mozclient ( I think that is what it is called.) | 06:24 |
| micahg | joelesko: yes, sorry, probably me, yes, it was converted at well, please look at lp:thunderbird | 06:28 |
| micahg | it should just be able to handle pulling the code from comm-release + mozilla-release whereas firefox just pulls from mozilla-release | 06:29 |
| joelesko | Will do. I'm only about 15% into the firefox files and wasn't sure if FF had files in seperate repos like seamonkey used to, or still does. | 06:30 |
| joelesko | now that's making more sense. I just pulled the comm-release and it looked a little light. | 06:32 |
| joelesko | What were they thinking. I thought it was all going to be under one repo by now. | 06:32 |
| micahg | yeah, it's just mail, suite, calendar | 06:32 |
| joelesko | Are you sure I can't just use the source tar files ;-) They are so easy to pull. | 06:33 |
| joelesko | Do you keep the clone repors in the same place and just do a pull, or do you do an entire pull everytime you get-orig-source? | 06:35 |
| micahg | I do an entire pull, idk what chrisccoulson does | 06:36 |
| joelesko | the lp:thunderbird builds the nightly? | 06:38 |
| joelesko | Some comments in the branch.mk would be nice | 06:40 |
| micahg | joelesko: yeah, that's trunk | 06:41 |
| joelesko | What do you mean by trunk? Like the way SVN uses it? | 06:46 |
| micahg | joelesko: sorry, comm-central | 06:50 |
| micahg | thunderbird nightly | 06:50 |
| micahg | joelesko: I'm heading for bed, chrisccoulson should be on in 1-3 hours if you need something else | 06:51 |
| joelesko | micahg: thanks for the help | 06:51 |
| micahg | joelesko: anytime | 06:51 |
| chrisccoulson | joelesko, you might be better off looking at the thunderbird branch btw. that contains everything needed to create a seamonkey source tarball | 10:58 |
| chrisccoulson | there's a few reasons why we create our own btw: | 10:58 |
| chrisccoulson | 1) We strip a lot of binary files from it | 10:58 |
| chrisccoulson | 2) It's necessary for running nightlies | 10:59 |
| chrisccoulson | 3) We merge all of the translation repo's in to it | 10:59 |
| chrisccoulson | 4) We can create our tarball and start builds before that happens upstream | 10:59 |
| chrisccoulson | i think that's it :) | 10:59 |
| chrisccoulson | this should work for seamonkey - http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/thunderbird/thunderbird-trunk.head/view/head:/debian/build/create-tarball | 11:03 |
| chrisccoulson | except you want to drop "l10n/*/suite" from EXCLUDE, and add "l10n/*/mail" to it instead | 11:04 |
| chrisccoulson | and you'd need to update ALL_LOCALES, SHIPPED_LOCALES and VERSION_FILE to their seamonkey equivalents | 11:04 |
| chrisccoulson | which i guess is just s/mail/suite/ | 11:05 |
| chrisccoulson | and yes, i keep a local cache of all the repo's so that i don't need to pull the whole thing each time :) | 11:06 |
| bhearsum | m_conley_away: which Unity extension do i want when running the Mozilla-built Earlybird? Messaging Menu Integration? | 13:05 |
| chrisccoulson | bhearsum, hi | 13:08 |
| chrisccoulson | you're not running the ubuntu-built earlybird? ;) | 13:08 |
| chrisccoulson | it comes with that extension | 13:08 |
| chrisccoulson | actually | 13:08 |
| bhearsum | i was, but i'm feeling like i should be dog-fooding the Mozilla stuff for awhile | 13:08 |
| bhearsum | heh, the Mozilla ones are really not great compared to the Ubuntu ones | 13:31 |
| chrisccoulson | oh, how come? | 13:34 |
| bhearsum | well, profile sharing between them doesn't seem to work - i got a session from months ago when I started our Nightly Firefox. Then there's unity/menu integration, which didn't seem to work at all | 13:35 |
| chrisccoulson | we actually change our nightlies to run in an entirely separate profile (and make it possible to run it alongside a build from any other branch too) | 13:36 |
| bhearsum | ah | 13:36 |
| bhearsum | so that's a feature :) | 13:36 |
| chrisccoulson | we can make them co-installable then, and not interfere with each other :) | 13:36 |
| chrisccoulson | which is how i work (i run beta / nightly alongside each other) | 13:36 |
| bhearsum | ah | 13:37 |
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| m_conley | chrisccoulson: hey - since the messaging menu extension has mostly become your code, I've made you a reviewer too. :) | 14:22 |
| chrisccoulson | m_conley, oh, thanks :) | 14:22 |
| chrisccoulson | m_conley, do you want to move it to https://launchpad.net/~extension-hackers too? | 14:22 |
| m_conley | chrisccoulson: oh, yes, that's a good idea | 14:23 |
| chrisccoulson | thanks | 14:23 |
| chrisccoulson | m_conley, i was just thinking about that actually, as some people still think that we request attention for too many messages | 14:23 |
| m_conley | chrisccoulson: so perhaps we need finer grain controls - folder by folder? | 14:24 |
| chrisccoulson | what do you think about dropping messages which have a Sender field, where Sender != From? | 14:24 |
| chrisccoulson | that would filter out most automated mail, like bug mail | 14:24 |
| m_conley | Hm | 14:24 |
| chrisccoulson | m_conley, the only issue with per-folder controls is that there's no reliable way to identify folders in thunderbird atm | 14:24 |
| chrisccoulson | (ie, there's no persistent URI for those) | 14:24 |
| chrisccoulson | i think there's a bug for that somewhere | 14:25 |
| chrisccoulson | m_conley, mozilla bug 671205 | 14:25 |
| m_conley | chrisccoulson: are you sure? I could have sworn that folders have URIs, or GUIDs or something | 14:25 |
| ubot2` | Mozilla bug 671205 in Database "Provide persistent unique folder ids for add-on developers, no need to manage rename/renaming and move/moving for folder-specific preferences" [Enhancement,New: ] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=671205 | 14:25 |
| m_conley | hunh. Go figure. | 14:25 |
| chrisccoulson | m_conley, yeah, but they don't persist across moves/renames | 14:25 |
| chrisccoulson | so we're a bit screwed there atm :) | 14:25 |
| m_conley | Ahhhh, right | 14:25 |
| m_conley | IMAP | 14:25 |
| m_conley | chrisccoulson: Sender != From sounds like a good starter solution. Do people who get tons and tons of bugmail use filters? I wonder how easy it'd be to hook in a filter action that was "do not indicate". | 14:27 |
| chrisccoulson | m_conley, yeah, that would be another possibility | 14:27 |
| chrisccoulson | i'm just wondering if there is any other scenario where Sender != From | 14:27 |
| chrisccoulson | after looking through my inbox, it looks like that would catch all automated mails, which would be good :) | 14:28 |
| chrisccoulson | but i'm not sure if it would reject anything else | 14:28 |
| m_conley | I usually ask bienvenu those questions - he's probably seen everything there is to see about mail headers, and their various permutations. | 14:28 |
| chrisccoulson | it seems that people only really want the icon to turn blue for mail that's been directly sent to them from another real person | 14:28 |
| chrisccoulson | which makes sense | 14:29 |
| m_conley | I suppose, yes. I'd hate to overlook a legitimate case though, where Sender != From. | 14:29 |
| m_conley | chrisccoulson: if you remember, maybe in a few hours, when bienvenu comes online, we can get his opinion. | 14:30 |
| chrisccoulson | thanks | 14:30 |
| chrisccoulson | hmmm, i've just updated my local comm-central, and i can't get it to build :/ | 14:38 |
| chrisccoulson | make[7]: *** No rule to make target `pldhash.c', needed by `pldhash.o'. Stop. | 14:38 |
| chrisccoulson | i get that even after a clobber | 14:39 |
| m_conley | chrisccoulson: hrm...that's not good. tbpl doesn't show any signs of major build breakages: http://build.mozillamessaging.com/tinderboxpushlog/?tree=ThunderbirdTrunk | 14:41 |
| chrisccoulson | m_conley, it's fallout from mozilla bug 675618, and all of our normal builds work too | 14:41 |
| ubot2` | Mozilla bug 675618 in XPCOM "Crash during startup on ARM when linked with recent GNU ld" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=675618 | 14:41 |
| chrisccoulson | i'm not sure why this doesn't work though :/ | 14:42 |
| chrisccoulson | perhaps i should just rm -rf the whole repo and clone it again ;) | 14:42 |
| m_conley | chrisccoulson: oof | 14:42 |
| m_conley | chrisccoulson: well, if you must. :) | 14:42 |
| chrisccoulson | it might be faster than figuring out what's actually broken with it :) | 14:42 |
| chrisccoulson | ok, deleted ;) | 14:44 |
| chrisccoulson | huh? https://launchpadlibrarian.net/79333365/Themes.txt | 14:55 |
| chrisccoulson | that's a bit strange | 14:55 |
| chrisccoulson | only one theme, and it's not even active | 14:56 |
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| * micahg hopes we have FF/TB 7 Final candidates for beta 2 | 16:08 | |
| chrisccoulson | hi joelesko | 17:53 |
| chrisccoulson | did you see my responses earlier on? | 17:53 |
| bhearsum | micahg: when is the cut-off for beta 2? | 17:54 |
| micahg | bhearsum: sep 15 | 17:54 |
| micahg | bhearsum: we can push that a little if absolutely necessary | 17:54 |
| bhearsum | probably not :( | 17:54 |
| bhearsum | historically, we only build the RCs 5 or 6 days ahead of the release | 17:55 |
| bhearsum | which would be sept 21/22 | 17:55 |
| chrisccoulson | bhearsum, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneiricReleaseInterlock | 17:55 |
| chrisccoulson | i added the mozilla dates to that now | 17:55 |
| micahg | bhearsum: I thought the plan for the release train was 2 weeks before | 17:55 |
| micahg | for the final beta which should be the final build | 17:55 |
| bhearsum | micahg: not that i've ever heard | 17:55 |
| bhearsum | that's not how it's ever worked out, at least :( | 17:56 |
| micahg | right, which is frustrating for me doing stable release testing | 17:56 |
| micahg | bhearsum: we can ship a beta in beta 2 | 17:56 |
| micahg | we'll throw the final beta in | 17:56 |
| micahg | after beta 2, we'll upload the release build which should be what we release oneiric with | 17:56 |
| bhearsum | realistically, i don't think the final beta will be until the 19th or 20th | 17:57 |
| bhearsum | that sounds fine to me | 17:57 |
| * micahg should really let chrisccoulson say all this since he'll be doing the work :) | 17:57 | |
| bhearsum | hehe :) | 17:57 |
| chrisccoulson | hah, i'm on vacation by the 27th ;) | 17:57 |
| bhearsum | oh, also FYI: December 20th is in theory the scheduled release date for Firefox 8, but given how close that is to holidays, we might do something different there | 17:58 |
| chrisccoulson | although, i'll still be hanging around to handle the release around then | 17:58 |
| micahg | right, but the final build will be available the week before, if it misses you, I'll take care of it | 17:58 |
| chrisccoulson | but i really won't be around during the following week | 17:58 |
| bhearsum | it hasn't been figured out at all, just wanted to give you guys a far in advance heads up | 17:58 |
| chrisccoulson | bhearsum, yeah, i can't imagine anyone will want to do a release on 20th december :) | 17:58 |
| chrisccoulson | i certainly won't be around then ;) | 17:58 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: are you gone for 1 week or 2? | 17:58 |
| chrisccoulson | i will probably be drinking mulled wine somewhere by december 20th | 17:59 |
| chrisccoulson | micahg, i'm away for 2 weeks | 17:59 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: ok, well, I guess I'll be taking care of any final RC bugs then :) | 17:59 |
| chrisccoulson | heh | 17:59 |
| chrisccoulson | i'll be back just in time for the archive to open up for p | 18:00 |
| micahg | heh, I'll be off on release day | 18:00 |
| chrisccoulson | i can't believe it will be UDS again in a few weeks | 18:09 |
| chrisccoulson | looking forward to actually seeing some sun :) | 18:09 |
| bhearsum | haha | 18:11 |
| bhearsum | is London's summer over already? | 18:11 |
| chrisccoulson | bhearsum, i live in birmingham, which is even worse than london | 18:12 |
| bhearsum | oh | 18:12 |
| chrisccoulson | the sky is perpetually gray here ;) | 18:12 |
| bhearsum | north of London? | 18:12 |
| * bhearsum looks at a map | 18:12 | |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, i'm a couple of hours north of london | 18:12 |
| bhearsum | ah | 18:13 |
| chrisccoulson | it even stays miserable during the winter. whilst other parts of the country get nice, festive snowfall, it just carries on raining on birmingham ;) | 18:14 |
| bhearsum | wow, i didn't realize Manchester was so far north either | 18:14 |
| bhearsum | oh, nice :) | 18:15 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, i actually fly to orlando from manchester | 18:15 |
| chrisccoulson | even though i live 15 minutes away from birmingham airport | 18:15 |
| bhearsum | hehe | 18:15 |
| bhearsum | is birmingham not an international airport? | 18:15 |
| chrisccoulson | it is, but it doesn't fly to any good destinations. so, everytime i fly from birmingham, i need to get a connecting flight somewhere | 18:16 |
| bhearsum | ah | 18:16 |
| bhearsum | yeah, that sucks | 18:16 |
| chrisccoulson | it's not so bad travelling in europe, but i'd rather not have to deal with connecting flights when i travel to the US | 18:16 |
| bhearsum | yeah | 18:16 |
| bhearsum | i avoid connecting flights whenever possible | 18:17 |
| bhearsum | the next Mozilla get together is in San Jose, but i'm flying to San Francisco and taking the train the rest of the way so that i get to avoid Chicago and/or Denver | 18:17 |
| chrisccoulson | how long does the train take? | 18:18 |
| bhearsum | oh, probably 1-2h | 18:19 |
| chrisccoulson | ah, that's not too bad | 18:19 |
| bhearsum | even if it took twice the time i'd probably do it, just because it's more relaxing | 18:19 |
| chrisccoulson | just long enough to fall asleep for a bit :) | 18:19 |
| bhearsum | :) | 18:19 |
| * bhearsum continues to stare at the UK map to figure out where EPL teams actually are | 18:20 | |
| chrisccoulson | heh | 18:21 |
| bhearsum | i seriously thought they were all around London :P | 18:21 |
| chrisccoulson | generally, most things are around london ;) | 18:22 |
| chrisccoulson | or, at least south of the north circular | 18:22 |
| * micahg wonders what bhearsum has against Chicago... | 18:22 | |
| bhearsum | micahg: nothing against Chicago, lots against flying and airports :) | 18:24 |
| micahg | heh | 18:24 |
| bhearsum | i went all the way around the world in april/may, i'm avoiding any extra miles in the air that i can | 18:24 |
| chrisccoulson | heh | 18:25 |
| dino___ | hi guys | 19:18 |
| micahg | hi dino___ | 19:36 |
| dino___ | hi :) | 19:38 |
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| dino2 | this name is slightly better. | 19:39 |
| dino2 | is this channel strictly regarding mozilla security bugs or in general all of the bugs related to mozilla? | 19:39 |
| micahg | anything related to Mozilla in Ubuntu | 19:40 |
| dino2 | that is great. | 19:40 |
| dino2 | but well i am booted into my windows 7. i will check out the bugs when i boot into 11.10 :) | 19:48 |
| dino2 | and will happen in the morning D: | 19:49 |
| FernandoMiguel | evening | 21:05 |
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