[00:02] andylockran: the doctree on this html file is absolutely nothing like you said it was :( [00:12] andylockran: this doesn't work but it is a start: http://paste.ubuntu.com/684832/ [00:18] andylockran: i think i said this before, but the formatting of the content is going to be the problem here, not malformed xml [00:19] since all this stuff was entered manually into word and exported to html, the xml is going to be perfect. but the content will be full of errors that need manually fixing anyway [00:19] which is why they hired someone to just copy paste and fix it all [06:24] morning all [06:47] morning all [07:04] .away [07:04] morning [07:05] morning tinkerbell, MooDoo === denny_ is now known as denny [07:07] not evil today christel [07:07] ? [07:07] no, incredibly well behaved! [07:07] :D [07:07] christel: boring ;) [07:07] any hatching yet? :) [07:07] * AlanBell doesn't believe that [07:08] christel: monday at the latest [07:08] MooDoo: *nod* [07:08] my eldest was 13 days over in the end [07:08] AlanBell: when are we pubbing next [07:09] christel: good question, so we have the 17th all lined up in London [07:09] but we should schedule the next one [07:09] yes! [07:10] and by 17th I clearly mean the 22nd [07:11] http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-uk/1257/detail/ [07:11] October 20th looks good for the second one [07:13] which might be the Farnborough area one [07:13] prince of Wales by Popey's house [07:13] oooh you've moved it from the 17th [07:13] yes [07:13] it didn't stay long on the 17th :) [07:13] hehe [07:14] maybe Nottingham in November [07:15] MooDoo will probably be allowed out by then [07:15] haha [07:15] ...or will he? [07:16] * AlanBell heads off for breakfast o/ [07:16] nom [07:23] christel: depends if i get a pass :) [07:24] hehe [07:24] Morning [07:24] morning DJones [07:25] Hi christel [07:25] & MooDoo [07:25] Any sign yet MooDoo [07:31] DJones: nothing yet, but it's going to be no later than monday [07:31] Heh, gives you chance to get the birthday out of the way tomorrow then [07:33] yeah [07:35] Morning [07:37] morning [07:37] * daubers needs to do some mqtt/arduino hacking for work [07:54] * hoover 's playing around with wuala after Randal's recommendation on g+... nice! [08:10] hoover: can you go clean my house, thanks [08:15] Morning peeps :) [08:16] Morning all [08:17] Mornin' all! [08:18] morning popey JamesTait [08:19] ffs why isn't single sign on letting me in .... grrrrr [08:20] ah me being a pillock, that's what it is [08:32] most excellent - I have a full 'pass' from the other half for the 22nd meetup in Londinium [08:46] danfish: you lucky lucky thing ;) [08:55] MooDoo: I'll drink a beer for you :D [08:57] danfish: thanks pal :D [08:58] danfish: I can't make the 22nd :( Off to Birmingham for the day on the s4th so have no monies [09:12] daubers: :( I'm sure there will be others [09:12] \o [09:12] danfish: Indeed. Readings already on the list and that's a 10 minute bus trip away \o/ [09:13] I wish irssi-proxy showed the last set of highlights or lines. [09:29] HazRPG: If wishes where horses, we'd all be eating steak [09:31] Can I have horse steak? [09:31] nom. [09:32] I've had oxen, that was divine [09:33] eaten horse in russia..tasted like a chewy braised steak [09:38] HazRPG, not necessarily helpful, but bip does [09:39] ooh quadrocopters [09:43] AlanBell: ooh - where, where? Me want quadcopter! [09:44] at the transfer summit thing [09:45] AlanBell: are they open source? [09:47] a little I think [09:50] Anyone know of any Minecraft servers? [09:53] smittix: popeys [09:53] good morning everyone. [09:54] o/ [09:54] Aloha [09:56] Ni how [09:57] morning [09:57] smittix: join #ubuntu-uk-minecraft [10:02] MooDoo: well???? [10:02] czajkowski: nothing at moment. if nothing happens over the next 4 days, we're getting induced on monday [10:03] have you made her eat lots of hot curries [10:03] I wouldn't want to come out either [10:03] having just missed summer [10:03] czajkowski: yes and pineapple and other things to get her started [10:09] danfish: it is open source [10:25] AlanBell: great - prob arduino controlled [10:26] Have been tempted to build a quadrocopter [10:26] but suspect the idea wouldn't take off [10:26] morning all [10:26] MooDoo: you a dad again yet? [10:27] daubers: ha... ha... [10:27] :P [10:27] * daubers gets his coat [10:27] davmor2: no, if nothing happens over next 4 days, induced monday [10:28] daubers: I fear peeps ignored the joke to save your feelings ;) [10:28] bigcalm: Ah, being a machine, I don't have feelings anyway. And that makes me sad [10:31] Heh [10:37] daubers: ok delayed reaction, badum-tish!!! [10:37] daubers: .......tumbleweed....... [10:38] I rather suspect that this platform may well get some daubers attention when released http://www.raspberrypi.org/ [10:39] danfish: I think you mean tumbleweed.popey.com [10:41] davmor2: that's the one :) [10:44] ich [10:45] danfish: Depends on the final cost :) [10:48] danfish: Also depends what the "general purpose I/O" things can be used for [10:54] czajkowski: I thought that was on this channel :D nevermind hey :) [10:59] davmor2: hahah [11:18] danfish: yeah it is arduino controlled they say [11:18] daubers: they want the GPIO thing to have lots of connectors for interesting things [11:19] Eben Upton who is the main driver of the project is a proper electronics geek [11:19] going to google plus just makes me hungry since AlanBell started posting pictures of delicious looking food =\ [11:20] Is it wrong to lust after the raspberry pi? [11:21] JGJones: yes [11:22] AlanBell: how was the dinner last night [11:22] it was worth dressing up for :) [11:27] AlanBell: Oooooh.... brains for a robot then :) [11:28] daubers: one of the two they have is nearly autonomous [11:30] AlanBell: Robots? [11:30] I shall teach mine to feel love [11:31] Then smash it! MUAHAHAHAHAQHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA [11:31] !love #ubuntu-offtopic [11:31] AlanBell: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [11:31] That or make it protect my house [11:31] meh [11:31] !love-#ubuntu-offtopic [11:31] Are they planning to move to Armv7 at some point? [11:31] Love is like racing across the frozen tundra on a snowmobile which flips over, trapping you underneath. At night, the ice-weasels come. [11:32] daubers: they would like to and have some thoughts around it [11:32] Excellent :) Could do some ubuntu-ey datacenter monitoring things with it too [11:33] part of the trouble is that the v7 chips are packaged with smaller pin separations so need more expensive pcb technology and are fussier about power so need better regulation [11:35] How long will debian be supporting the v6? Until they move to 3.0? [11:35] one more cycle I think [11:35] which could of course be a *long* time [11:38] heh :) [11:41] is it possible to do rm /some/path/[regex|stuff] [11:41] Is it possible to use VirtualBox to play games? Trying not to name drop here, so like DirectX11 games? [11:42] kvarley: minecraft works fine on ubuntu :) [11:42] dogmatic69: I know :) I play it xD [11:42] no need for a VM then [11:42] dogmatic69: I want it for FPS games lol [11:42] dogmatic69: I guess I should just try it out myself rather than asking lol [11:43] kvarley: dont see why it wont work [11:43] kvarley: http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/virtualbox-3-directx.html [11:43] dogmatic69: You can do things like rm file[1-9].* or what ever i think [11:43] x64 can be a pain and things like usb sharing. [11:43] I quite often use find execing rm [11:50] kvarley: i just dual boot to windows 7 to play games [11:51] popey: So do I, however I was just thinking how awesome it'd be to have it run virtually [11:51] i dont believe it's fast enough [11:51] or compatible enough [11:51] Just read the someone has got onlive working under wine [11:51] yeah, thats an interesting project [11:51] I really am debating about trying it [11:52] not sure if it's hit the uk yet though [11:52] it hasnt AFAIAA [11:52] http://onlive.co.uk/ [11:52] 22/9 [11:53] Punkbuster is a real pain for playing games online through wine [12:00] kvarley: maybe this is better for you http://synergy-foss.org/ [12:02] dogmatic69: That involves 2 systems tho [12:34] congrats czajkowski :) [12:34] cheers [12:35] czajkowski: Now employed? [12:35] daubers: aye as of next wednesday I have a job [12:36] Woo! Watcha doing and for whome? [12:37] codegent.com [12:37] PM work [12:37] czajkowski: bangkok office? [12:37] ;) [12:38] nope you wee *mutter* [12:38] London [12:38] lol ;) [12:38] czajkowski: Web design company? [12:38] (names a bit generic, site looks to be that way :) ) [12:39] daubers: digital agency kinda stuff [12:39] looks a well established company, marketing and stuff [12:39] czajkowski: Okies, that'll keep you busy [12:40] can you rub some of your luck on me too, czajkowski [12:40] MooDoo: taken me 4 months [12:40] Myrtti: taken me 4 months [12:40] yeah :S but it's looking up now :) [12:44] Hey...have anyone gotten Amazon Kindle working via wine? I have it installed...but it's not downloading any books :S [12:46] JGJones: u telling me that u can't connect a kindle to ubuntu? [12:46] sorry...to clarify - Kindle for PC [12:46] ah [12:47] my missis wants a kindle , need to investigate [12:47] maybe she said "cuddle" and you misheard? [12:47] They're great for reading. Keep pinching my dad's whenever I visit [12:48] JGJones: Can you not use Calibre ? [12:48] diplo, I do...but I do have books in Kindle with bookmarks/notes [12:49] :/ [12:49] diplo, main reason for Kindle - I read it on PC, phone and tablet - so it keep my progress in sync which I find useful [12:49] although I do have backup copies on Calibre :) [12:54] \o/ [12:54] Not Panicking Ltd is a win name for a company. [12:54] Especially one that's going to take care of H2G2 [12:59] http://www.lczajkowski.com/2011/09/08/rwc-warning/ You have all been warned [13:03] not working tomorrow :D [13:03] morning that is [13:04] czajkowski: and on twitter we have been warmed :D [13:05] czajkowski: oh that reminds me how much did Ireland lose to England by recently? /me runs for cover [13:06] Badly :D [13:07] don't disconnect me :( :( :( [13:07] I'm thinking it might be New Zealand's chance to win as they've constantly been one of the best team to play. [13:07] czajkowski: congrats on the job :) [13:09] * popey wonders why rugby should not be confused with rugby [13:09] fixed [13:09] kazade: thanks [13:09] JGJones: i'm thinking NZ too [13:10] popey: Well rugby is a place where they make rugby cement and rugby is a game played with the wrong shaped ball :) [13:11] AlanBell: ping [13:12] disappointed that i need to install a binary blob for an hp printer :( [13:16] oimon: which printer? [13:16] HP P1102 [13:17] required hplip-gui package, then run hp-setup which downloads some blob [13:17] the ppd file says "you need a blob" [13:17] ooer [13:17] giggity [13:18] apparently another free driver might work foo2zjs or something , but it's not standard in RHEL [13:18] Goo [13:18] ubuntu seem to have it [13:22] o/ bigcalm [13:22] Aha! [13:23] ADDICTED! [13:24] :D [13:24] smittix: i lost 5 hours the other night to it :) [13:25] oimon: yeah you might need splix too (although that might just be a samsung laser printer thing) [13:25] davmor2: we no longer buy samsung printers because of the faff involved [13:25] i want to kickstart a PC and be done, no extra faff [13:26] MooDoo: Yeah I think it's going to be a long night. [13:26] shame no 1.8 today ☹ [13:27] oimon: mine works fine, although talking to Big Ron last night we were joking about the fact that some of the cheapest, good quality drivers and prints are now from lexmark, who'd of thunk it? [13:27] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXjwg-CKxnQ [13:27] davmor2: lexmark are forever on my blacklist! for EVER! [13:27] popey: good job there is no 1.8 today otherwise no work would be done until next week [13:29] talking of blacklists, i'm just in the process of transferring VM junk mail into new envelopes without stamps so they have to pay surcharge [13:29] might chuck some scrap metal in too [13:31] [Laura Czajkowski] RWC Warning - http://www.lczajkowski.com/2011/09/08/rwc-warning/ [13:36] oimon - I second that. Lexmark is on my blacklist too :) [13:36] I've thought about doing that with VM aswell oimon [13:37] Intensity of mails has increased last few weeks [13:37] diplo: i spoke to them on the phone and they agreeed to stop spamming me...lasted 2 months [13:37] maybe it never stopped :-S [13:37] one of my pet hates [13:37] I don't really mind binary blobs if it makes things work [13:38] although, I've not had any problems or need of binary blobs with my Samsung MFP's [13:40] Myrtti: HP had a history of good opensource support. if their opensource support means using an opensource app to download a blob, its not good for my enterprise use since it increases the admin load [13:40] oimon: yup [13:40] surely you can see where the blob went and deploy that? [13:41] but recently Samsung have made an effort of doing the reverse of that [13:41] I just plug my MFP in and it all works like in movies [13:41] or as we Finns say, the proverbian train toilet [13:41] proverbial [13:42] Hello [13:43] How do i share my internet connection (ppp) over wifi (wlan0) ? [13:46] The_Fred: what version you using? [13:46] 10.04lts [13:49] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing [13:49] have you read that? [13:49] MooDoo, thankyou i'm reading that now [13:50] you're welcome [14:05] cheers all [14:08] running gnome-system-monitor gives the impression of high cpu usage, because running gnome-system-monitor uses a lot of CPU :-S fail [14:09] oimon old bug is old, have you updated since never? :P [14:09] Azelphur: on lucid [14:09] indeed [14:10] * oimon will soon need a ppa for every application [14:10] or you could just update ;) [14:10] dude, i haven't even rebooted for 50 days [14:11] gord: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/844824 not good :( [14:11] Error: Bug #844824 is a duplicate of bug #842784, but it is private (https://launchpad.net/bugs/842784) [14:11] i'll update to the next LTS [14:12] Azelphur: I still have it on 10.10 [14:13] 10.10 is ancient too [14:13] not tried on this machine with natty [14:13] Cant run natty on my pc [14:13] So no choice [14:13] Spent 2-3 hours trying to get dual screens working and failed [14:13] diplo: even with gnome classic? [14:14] Yup, seems a GFX driver issue [14:16] davmor2, do you want to add a proper stacktrace? :) [14:18] gord: that's everything that apport threw at it honest gov'nor all automated I only added the 2 lines of text as to what I was doing when it died on me [14:19] davmor2, might be fixed by tomorrow anyway, i changed that code [14:22] gord: I'll keep an eye out on it, apparently the trace is correct on the bug mine got duped to [14:33] I give up. linkedin, meet procmail. grrrr. [14:47] would be neat if there was a terminal command to grep the previous output [14:51] afternoon [14:51] hiy [14:55] MooDoo: any news yet? [14:56] davmor2: i don't think anything will happen till monday.... [14:56] MooDoo: :( [14:56] cant you go for long long walks [14:56] hot baths [14:56] hot currys [14:57] MooDoo: Saturday you mean right? [14:57] czajkowski: doing all those now, just doesn'[t want to come out [14:57] davmor2: it's not wanting to come out, if nothing happens over the next four days it's coming out monday, don't want it this sat as it's jimmys birthday [14:58] would he not handle it ? [14:58] but thank you all for asking :D [14:59] MooDoo: Think of the saving on party costs ;) [14:59] saves relations having to make 2 vists i a matter of days [14:59] coming to 2 birthdays in a matter of days [15:00] MooDoo: you know it makes sense ;) [15:00] davmor2: it's not the same having a birthday on the same day, prefer them to have an individual one, although 18/21st in the same week will be fun :D [15:01] yeah [15:01] there you go lads, of to vegas with ya! [15:02] not that we know what we're having lol === _Dave2_ is now known as Dave2 === lan3y is now known as Laney [15:14] is freenode broken? [15:14] it was earlier, and looking at the quits and joins, then yeah :) [15:15] aha, you can see this [15:15] wasn't christel upgrading stuff? [15:15] I just didn't see any messages for ages [15:17] she was! [15:17] stupid web logs aren't updating fast enough so I don't know what got through [15:17] >:( [15:17] christel: knew it, IT WAS YOU point point point [15:18] :D [15:18] hehe === LjL-Temp` is now known as LjL-Temp [15:18] why are ghosting & releasing two separate steps? === LjL-Temp is now known as Guest28217 [15:20] anyone use mustard. and twitter isnt picking up new tweets.? [15:21] only use mustard on sarnies [15:23] got mustard seeds in the cupboard [15:23] the android app, but anyways, ok. [15:23] brobostigon: sorry :) alas no i don't use it [15:24] MooDoo: yes, that was self evidant from your first statement, :) [15:31] I like how WordPress keeps telling me that Chromium is out of date. Don't blame me, oh mighty WP [15:31] bigcalm: is it wrong? [15:31] i get that too [15:32] i think it's a bit "keen" === lubotu3` is now known as lubotu3 [15:55] Anyone know much about cups here ? [15:56] specific to my organisation, but some transferable knowledge :) [15:56] I've never used it [15:56] /var/cups/spool should empty after a job completes ? === Guest28217 is now known as LjL-Temp === LjL-Temp is now known as Guest83229 [15:58] mine doesn't seem to diplo [15:59] cupsd is using 50-60% cpu, wondering whether the 500 jobs in q were the issue [15:59] don't seem to increrase in there either [15:59] 503 c* files [16:00] maxjobs 500 ? [16:01] I guess thats set in cupd.conf ? [16:01] nf [16:01] Yeah it's set to 500as default [16:03] although i had a user that had an incorrect cupsd.conf and when i replaced it with the original one, his 100% cpu problem went away [16:15] popey: ping [16:18] ikonia: pong [16:18] popey: is your FB account ok ? [16:18] dunno, wassup? [16:19] past couple of weeks your account keeps posting that light sabre badminton game and telling me that you like it [16:19] you the video with the guys playing badminton with lightsabers [16:19] sorry "the" [16:19] not me [16:19] i have not seen that [16:19] how odd, it's telling me you posted it and like it [16:20] it's done it a few times over the last couple of weeks [16:20] screenie? [16:21] I've marked it as spam, I'm looking for "undo" now [16:21] hang on [16:23] ikonia <3 [16:23] ikonia: you sure it's popey I've not had it [16:23] howdy [16:23] not sure at all, but it's telling me popey is the guy who likes it [16:23] let me just undo this [16:25] * popey goes to a party with jelly & ice cream [16:25] that's the last post I saw from you properly, enjoy ! [16:26] I can't see how to undo it so I can show it [16:28] http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=189577531087079 [16:28] "Sharing heaven" [16:28] that can only be a spam application [16:28] that is the video that keeps getting posted [16:28] remove that app from your allowed apps list then :) [16:28] it's not in it, I keep getting it from popey [16:34] stop using facebook [16:35] also, where's my linux version of after effects so i can make videos like that? === Guest83229 is now known as LjL-Temp [16:59] hello! === LjL-Temp is now known as Guest56814 [16:59] I've a problem with my wifi can anyone help? [16:59] i could sell you some CAT5 [17:00] nice offer, but i've no ethenet cards [17:01] thing is, when i do iwconfig i can see details about the card, but not in wicd [17:01] all i want to do is creat an ad-hoc network [17:08] the wifi dongle is a RTL8187 [17:10] if you can see it in iwconfig the driver for the card is probably loaded ok [17:10] have you tried using iwconfig to configure it? [17:10] iwconfig wlan0 essid FOO enc BAR etc [17:11] jacobw, not yet, im read ubuntu forums to see if how to do it [17:12] `man iwconfig` will be more helpful that the ubuntuforums [17:14] jacobw, thanks, looking now [17:15] iwconfig wlan0 essid $ESSID mode ad-hoc ap $MAC_ADDR key $WEP_KEY [17:15] if your using WPA you'll have to use wpa_supplicant [17:23] ah! that could be the missing ingrediant : wpa_supplicant [17:26] i installed the wpa_supplicant gui, but ther eis no adapter to select! [17:27] ok [17:27] on the current status tab is says: Could not get data from wpa_supplicant [17:28] gawd, there is a LOT of info to digest with man iwconfig.... [17:28] Wow wpa_supplicant [17:29] I haven't needed that since... well, since I switched to Ubuntu [17:29] for some reason he isn't using networkmanager [17:29] i did nt know if network manager was causing the problem, i think i'll remove wicd, and re-install the manager [17:33] what happens when you try to connect with networkmanager? [17:34] just re-installing it now [17:34]