| brousch1 | 10" is a little too big for me though | 00:01 |
|---|---|---|
| brousch1 | can't quite reach the middle letters on keyboard when held vertically | 00:02 |
| jrwren | for the osd key? | 00:04 |
| brousch1 | right | 00:04 |
| brousch1 | yeah, i mean a 10" tablet | 00:04 |
| Wolfger | party morning | 11:27 |
| rick_h_ | morning party | 11:30 |
| Wolfger | So when do I make my first commit to github? I'm thinking... never. I don't want anybody to see how bad my code sucks. :-) | 11:41 |
| brousch | Wolfger: don't worry, no one will see it | 11:43 |
| brousch | damnit. i just discovered my shirt has a big grease stain on it | 11:43 |
| Wolfger | yeah, that's my second thought | 11:43 |
| Wolfger | nobody cares enough to look at my code :-) | 11:43 |
| rick_h_ | Wolfger: just go look around code first | 11:46 |
| rick_h_ | then you'll feel better | 11:46 |
| Wolfger | heh | 11:47 |
| === vanberge_idle is now known as vanberge | ||
| snap-l | Gid moaning | 12:14 |
| snap-l | Wolfger: If you wait until your code is perfect, you'll never commit code | 12:15 |
| snap-l | This is a fact | 12:15 |
| rick_h_ | snap-l: http://search.cpan.org/~fxn/Acme-Pythonic/lib/Acme/Pythonic.pm | 12:20 |
| brousch | yeah. it's much better to release ugly code and then rick_h_ will fix it for you | 12:20 |
| rick_h_ | hah, I've got some ugly code up there | 12:20 |
| rick_h_ | I noticed I still had sendoff up there with packages on pypi | 12:20 |
| rick_h_ | had to pull those down | 12:20 |
| rick_h_ | though honestly I should ressurect that project | 12:20 |
| snap-l | rick_h_: Wow, that's... wow. | 12:20 |
| rick_h_ | the way I ship files off to work stuff, pastebin, the s3 buckets on amazon | 12:20 |
| rick_h_ | snap-l: yea, let's just say I didn't go starting any code reviews on there | 12:21 |
| snap-l | I think Perl needs those braces, but it's interesting that it's flexible enough to handle it without | 12:21 |
| rick_h_ | oh, yea the perl thing is funny | 12:22 |
| rick_h_ | "I want to do perl...but like python...but I don't want to use python" | 12:22 |
| snap-l | Get the worst of both worlds. :) | 12:22 |
| Wolfger | Huh. | 12:27 |
| Wolfger | I can't imagine *wanting* Python whitespace conventions in Perl :-p | 12:28 |
| Wolfger | LOL@xkcd | 12:43 |
| rick_h_ | Blazeix: http://backbonetutorials.com is pretty cool | 12:59 |
| rick_h_ | !@#$*$#@Y* NUKE NC! | 13:19 |
| snap-l | not yet | 13:20 |
| brousch | all of it? | 13:20 |
| Wolfger | I am so glad rick_h_ doesn't have access to the big red button | 13:20 |
| rick_h_ | yes, leave nothing behind! | 13:20 |
| rick_h_ | new open beachfront property coming just as soon as the rads go down a few | 13:20 |
| rick_h_ | "Rick, can we have a chat about how setup.py works?" | 13:20 |
| rick_h_ | sure...30min later..."Oh, I completely missed that giant error message so I didn't understand how things work" | 13:21 |
| rick_h_ | READ THE TEXT THE APP SPITS OUT kthx | 13:21 |
| rick_h_ | The next person that says "it outputs lots of stuff..." without saying wtf "Lots of stuff is" I'm going to shoot | 13:21 |
| snap-l | rick_h_: http://www.archive.org/details/Operatio1955 | 13:22 |
| Wolfger | but... isn't it your job to do their thinking for them? | 13:22 |
| Wolfger | XD | 13:22 |
| rick_h_ | well he gets an in freaking argument with me that "that's not what the tool is doing on my end...it's not doing that at all" | 13:23 |
| rick_h_ | BECAUSE IT WAS ERRORING! | 13:24 |
| brousch | so he was right! | 13:24 |
| rick_h_ | oh @#$#@% | 13:24 |
| rick_h_ | but he doesn't say "hey, this is funny" | 13:24 |
| rick_h_ | he says "Hey Rick, can you take some time to explain to me how this whole process works from top to bottom..and only after you spend all that time will I tell you the real issue is that the script your wrote for me don't work" | 13:25 |
| rick_h_ | "and that only fails because I did stupid stuff I'm not supposed to do" | 13:25 |
| snap-l | And while you're at it, sudo make me a sandwich | 13:26 |
| Wolfger | lol | 13:41 |
| snap-l | I'm going to scream. | 13:56 |
| _stink_ | uh oh | 13:57 |
| snap-l | Just got a note from someone about what the savings would be if our customer took over the forum support that I do | 13:57 |
| snap-l | Well, the savings would be my salary, and any overhead associated with it | 13:57 |
| _stink_ | what will they pay the inanimate object that will do the job instead? | 13:58 |
| snap-l | I swear, that's the most tone-deaf question someone can ask | 13:58 |
| rick_h_ | damn, that's kind of for your boss...now you | 13:59 |
| snap-l | I'm pretty much my boss | 14:00 |
| rick_h_ | and hey, while you're at it, could you head over to ATT and train the guy taking your place? | 14:00 |
| rick_h_ | send him your scripts/test tools/etc | 14:00 |
| snap-l | My original boss moved on. | 14:00 |
| snap-l | Oh, gladly. | 14:00 |
| rick_h_ | I thought you had the new chick lady | 14:00 |
| snap-l | I'll send them whatever they want | 14:00 |
| snap-l | (original boss) | 14:00 |
| snap-l | New boss is more worried about positioning herself. | 14:01 |
| snap-l | Gah, now they're asking me what I've been working on | 14:06 |
| snap-l | Jesus, this is brilliant | 14:07 |
| brousch | "I've been working on my resume because it's obvious you asshats are going to screw me!" | 14:09 |
| snap-l | truth | 14:09 |
| snap-l | Well, now it's come under question because of contract renewal. Customer thinks they can save money by doing it in house | 14:10 |
| snap-l | which they can, because they've pretty much killed any momentum for it by allowing marketing to sit on it | 14:10 |
| snap-l | Apparently developers don't flock to web APIs like crackwhores looking for a fix. | 14:11 |
| snap-l | Who knew? | 14:11 |
| snap-l | especially when they're mobile developers that can get the same, if not better results by using the tricks they honed for the past 10+ years. | 14:12 |
| gamerchick02 | Sorry i missed the meeting yesterday. | 14:22 |
| snap-l | np | 14:26 |
| gamerchick02 | i completely forgot about it and went to the farmer's market. | 14:31 |
| rick_h_ | farmer's market ftw | 14:33 |
| gamerchick02 | it was good | 14:33 |
| gamerchick02 | we got some sweet corn and cinnamon rolls. | 14:33 |
| gamerchick02 | there's a bakery that has a table. | 14:33 |
| rick_h_ | Blazeix: ping | 14:38 |
| Blazeix | rick_h_: yeh | 14:46 |
| Blazeix | er, hey, I'm dyslexic, apparently | 14:46 |
| rick_h_ | hey, backbone.js question for you | 14:46 |
| rick_h_ | trying to figure out how to add a tr to a table, but then reference it | 14:47 |
| rick_h_ | messing with the view this.el | 14:47 |
| rick_h_ | so trying to work out, if this.el = 'tr' | 14:47 |
| rick_h_ | does it create a new tr then? | 14:47 |
| Blazeix | yes, I believe it does, so you could just append your cell elements to 'el' | 14:48 |
| rick_h_ | ok, trying that atm, figuring out what to put intot he jquery template | 14:48 |
| rick_h_ | what the el should be | 14:48 |
| rick_h_ | and how to reference it after for events | 14:48 |
| rick_h_ | and getting mixed up | 14:48 |
| Blazeix | so you'd give it a tagName and className | 14:49 |
| Blazeix | and then it constructs it, and puts a reference in 'el' | 14:49 |
| Blazeix | then if you want to listen to events, you'd scope it by class | 14:50 |
| rick_h_ | ah ok. | 14:50 |
| rick_h_ | hmmm, so since the classname is based off the model, wonder how the order is working here | 14:50 |
| Blazeix | you're doing a view per row, right? or is it a view for the entire table? | 14:51 |
| rick_h_ | http://paste.mitechie.com/show/403/ | 14:51 |
| rick_h_ | view per row | 14:51 |
| rick_h_ | that's the old template where the tr got a class based on the model record | 14:51 |
| rick_h_ | but that doens't then have el set to anything decent | 14:52 |
| rick_h_ | yea, can't use the model to define the className | 14:55 |
| rick_h_ | so if I leave that out, each row replaces the one before it | 14:55 |
| rick_h_ | and I end up with the last row as the only row to the table | 14:55 |
| rick_h_ | ah, can pass the className directory to the view constructor | 14:55 |
| Blazeix | so the first thing I'd try is removing the 'el' property, and replacing it with 'tagName':tr | 14:56 |
| Blazeix | then removing the 'tr' from your template | 14:56 |
| Blazeix | this.el then _should_ be the generated 'tr', which you can then set the class name from. | 14:56 |
| rick_h_ | there we go | 14:56 |
| rick_h_ | moved the model from the initialized, passed a {model:t , className:t.name} | 14:57 |
| rick_h_ | and then set the tagname like you said | 14:57 |
| rick_h_ | awesome, and events working | 14:58 |
| Blazeix | ah, nice, from the parent view? | 14:58 |
| rick_h_ | yea, just using events() | 14:58 |
| rick_h_ | redoing my thing at work in backbone, porting the hand done events/models/etc into backbone | 14:59 |
| rick_h_ | and mapping is taking a few | 14:59 |
| rick_h_ | but starting to come together | 14:59 |
| Blazeix | awesome | 14:59 |
| rick_h_ | yea, thanks for the help | 15:00 |
| rick_h_ | the arrays of tutorials all do things slightly diff | 15:00 |
| Blazeix | yeah, i've been hanging out in #documentcloud, and the answer to "am I doing this right?" is always "does it work? then yes." | 15:02 |
| rick_h_ | and hah | 15:03 |
| rick_h_ | oops, hah | 15:03 |
| rick_h_ | remembering to do .get() is killing me lol | 15:07 |
| gamerchick02 | ugh. why do contract houses INSIST on "meeting" the candidate onsite before an interview? | 15:41 |
| gamerchick02 | now I have to get up EVEN EARLIER and be down to Chrysler at effing 9:30 instead of 10. | 15:41 |
| gamerchick02 | i didn't realize i needed to be baby-sat. | 15:42 |
| rick_h_ | it's for your protection | 15:46 |
| rick_h_ | :) | 15:46 |
| rick_h_ | can't have you making side deals and getting around things | 15:46 |
| Blazeix | it's actually a ruse so they can see what car you drive. That's Important. | 15:46 |
| snap-l | Blazeix: Yeah, they want to make sure you're not currently driving a Chrysler vehicle. | 15:47 |
| snap-l | so they can try to make a sale | 15:47 |
| Blazeix | haha | 15:47 |
| snap-l | I have never seen a larger parking lot of Hondas and Toyotas in Michigan than when I worked for Chrysler | 15:47 |
| snap-l | few of the offshore developers bought Chrysler cars because they didn't want to take the hit selling it when they went back | 15:48 |
| snap-l | gamerchick02: Also, they want to make sure you don't clash with the decor. | 15:48 |
| gamerchick02 | so i should dress in all grey with a grey hat then? | 15:49 |
| gamerchick02 | because Chrysler is grey on the inside, unless they've changed since the last time i interviewed there | 15:49 |
| snap-l | gamerchick02: Nah, just dress in kid pictures and dead plants, and you should be fine | 15:50 |
| gamerchick02 | oooh. good point. | 15:50 |
| gamerchick02 | but i have no kids. | 15:50 |
| gamerchick02 | and our plants are all living. | 15:50 |
| Blazeix | istockphoto | 15:50 |
| gamerchick02 | good point. | 15:50 |
| gamerchick02 | i drive a Mazda. i'd never get anything made by chrysler. | 15:50 |
| gamerchick02 | and yes, mazda = ford, i'm aware. >_< | 15:51 |
| snap-l | was | 15:51 |
| snap-l | I think they got sold off again | 15:51 |
| snap-l | At least Land Rover and Jaguar did | 15:51 |
| gamerchick02 | no, the ford fusion is a mazda6 and the ford focus is a 3i. | 15:51 |
| gamerchick02 | land rover was a pos anyway. | 15:51 |
| === greg_g is now known as greg-g | ||
| Wolfger | Chrysler isn't gray on the inside, but your soul will be... | 15:54 |
| snap-l | Well, it's that multicultural gray / mauve | 15:56 |
| snap-l | Ok, I'm having way too much fun rolling this Zocchihedron around my desk | 15:57 |
| snap-l | picked one up in OH for $.25 at a resale shop | 15:57 |
| Wolfger | Zocchihedron? | 15:58 |
| snap-l | d100 | 15:58 |
| Wolfger | huh | 15:58 |
| Wolfger | I would have expected it to be a centihedron or some such | 15:59 |
| snap-l | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zocchihedron | 15:59 |
| snap-l | It's named for Lou Zocchi from Game Science (makers of fine dice) | 16:00 |
| snap-l | I also got some round D6 dice | 16:00 |
| gamerchick02 | Wolfger, i worked for delphi. can't get much greyer. | 16:01 |
| gamerchick02 | also, i'll be a CONTRACT. which gets about as much respect as a high school kid sweeping the shop floor. | 16:01 |
| snap-l | gamerchick02: Depends on the department | 16:01 |
| snap-l | also, keep your badge in your wallet, and nobody knows the difference. | 16:02 |
| gamerchick02 | yeah, but in general, contracts are shit on the ground. | 16:02 |
| snap-l | I felt like a real employee, save for "All Employee Meetings" | 16:02 |
| Wolfger | gamerchick02: I am a contract at Chrysler these past 10 years. I know. | 16:02 |
| snap-l | Only if you let it | 16:02 |
| snap-l | You're still a human being | 16:02 |
| gamerchick02 | i don't really want to work there. i'd rather work for Piolax | 16:02 |
| snap-l | http://ubuntuone.com/22ecut5wZy5w1L1PtQjMzc <- Round D6 | 16:02 |
| gamerchick02 | no call back yet, but there was a holiday recently. | 16:02 |
| gamerchick02 | i hope to hear more by tomorrow or something. | 16:03 |
| Wolfger | snap-l: I've seen those before. Nifty toy, but I wouldn't want to roll them with any frequency. | 16:03 |
| snap-l | This one stops pretty well | 16:04 |
| Wolfger | same with the zocchihedron, for that matter | 16:04 |
| gamerchick02 | i'd love to be able to tell this contract place where to shove their low paying job with no benefits. | 16:04 |
| snap-l | It's like rolling a golfball with shot to help make it stop | 16:04 |
| Wolfger | gamerchick02: they can shove it right up your bank account because you're desperate? :-D | 16:04 |
| gamerchick02 | ;) probalby | 16:04 |
| Wolfger | so what/where are you applying? | 16:05 |
| gamerchick02 | it's through RGBSI. product engineer job, essentially what i did at delphi but different parts, etc | 16:05 |
| Wolfger | Well, good luck. I'm surprised they're contracting that position | 16:06 |
| snap-l | Wolfger: I'm not. | 16:06 |
| gamerchick02 | at this point, i don't give a shit what department i'm in. they're "starting" negotiations at $25/hr, but i'm sure they'll just bump me down to $18/hr because i'm female. | 16:06 |
| snap-l | They'd contract out their entire staff if they could. | 16:06 |
| gamerchick02 | no shit, sherlock. | 16:06 |
| Wolfger | snap-l: point | 16:06 |
| Wolfger | but the engineering jobs I thought were all unionized | 16:07 |
| snap-l | gamerchick02: Nah, They'll start you at $25, then take 3 years to give you a raise. ;) | 16:07 |
| snap-l | Wolfger: Pfft | 16:07 |
| snap-l | Unions are toothless nowadays | 16:07 |
| gamerchick02 | dude, i've never made more than $15/hr. i'll gladly take $25/hr | 16:07 |
| Wolfger | gamerchick02: If you get a raise in 3 years, you've been fast-tracked | 16:07 |
| gamerchick02 | as long as i don't have to carry insurance, i'll be a happy little drone | 16:07 |
| snap-l | Oh, sorry, right | 16:07 |
| snap-l | They'll give you a pay-cut in 3 years. | 16:08 |
| snap-l | for the good of the company. | 16:08 |
| Wolfger | I had my 10-year anni on June 1, and they are just now discussing my second raise. | 16:08 |
| gamerchick02 | holy shit. but then again, you're male, so you will get paid more. (sorry, i'm grumpy. i didn't sleep well last night and i get a call today about having to be baby-sat at my interview... just puts me off on the wrong everything.) | 16:09 |
| Wolfger | ... | 16:09 |
| snap-l | gamerchick02: You have to meet your new boss at some point | 16:09 |
| snap-l | And contracting houses are like dating services | 16:09 |
| gamerchick02 | oh fuck me with a knife. i hate dating. | 16:10 |
| snap-l | "Matchmaker Matchmaker, make me a match | 16:10 |
| snap-l | find me a find | 16:10 |
| Wolfger | snap-l: s/dating services/pimps/ | 16:10 |
| gamerchick02 | hence, why i'm single. | 16:10 |
| snap-l | catch me a catch | 16:10 |
| gamerchick02 | YES PIMPS | 16:10 |
| snap-l | Matchmaker matchmaker make me a match | 16:10 |
| gamerchick02 | my mom gets mad when i refer to them as pimps and me as a prostitute. | 16:10 |
| Wolfger | heh | 16:10 |
| snap-l | gamerchick02: That's essentially what it is | 16:10 |
| gamerchick02 | "you're better than that" | 16:11 |
| gamerchick02 | actually, no, i'm not. | 16:11 |
| snap-l | Just tell her you're meeting your "John" | 16:11 |
| snap-l | That'll put her right off | 16:11 |
| gamerchick02 | i know, snap-l. | 16:11 |
| gamerchick02 | it's not that much different, except i don't get paid as much. *ZING* | 16:11 |
| gamerchick02 | i'm horrible. | 16:12 |
| gamerchick02 | sorry. | 16:12 |
| snap-l | Well, and you get fucked every day as a contractor. | 16:12 |
| gamerchick02 | Wolfger, my comment related to you getting paid more... sorry, didn't mean to make you mad. | 16:13 |
| snap-l | but at least you get insurance for VD | 16:13 |
| snap-l | so it evens out | 16:13 |
| gamerchick02 | "UGH, GIVE IT TO ME HARDER, UUUUUH" | 16:13 |
| * gamerchick02 is HORRIBLE | 16:13 | |
| gamerchick02 | i use condoms. | 16:13 |
| gamerchick02 | hah! | 16:13 |
| gamerchick02 | seriously, i'd rather be single at this point in my life... no guy to have to pick up after. | 16:14 |
| gamerchick02 | but a job, i'd like that. | 16:14 |
| gamerchick02 | i just hate that it's like dating. it's disgusting. | 16:15 |
| snap-l | It's business. | 16:15 |
| gamerchick02 | yes, please abuse me on the first date. since i've been dateless for the past 2 years, i will pretty much do whatever you want if you propose right now. | 16:15 |
| snap-l | Also, business is like high school. | 16:15 |
| Wolfger | snap-l: Too late... my bad behavior has already been encouraged, and I'm asking an artist friend of mine to design a t-shirt out of it. | 16:16 |
| snap-l | so you have that to look forward to as well. :) | 16:16 |
| gamerchick02 | no shit. i got used to stinking of it when i was at Delphi. | 16:16 |
| snap-l | I think we need to start the IRC collective or something | 16:16 |
| gamerchick02 | my problem? i hate politics (in all forms, national all the way down to office). | 16:16 |
| gamerchick02 | i think i need to give up and start smoking weed on the couch. | 16:17 |
| snap-l | because we're clearly not employable. :) | 16:17 |
| Wolfger | gamerchick02: the comment only annoyed me because you're starting at $25 theoretically, and I make slightly under that *after* my first raise... But, different jobs, so different pay scales. | 16:17 |
| gamerchick02 | wolfger, a guy in my position at delphi would have made $20. | 16:17 |
| gamerchick02 | and he wouldn't have had admin assistant on his pay stubs. | 16:18 |
| gamerchick02 | no, i'm not STARTING. at $25. they're starting negotiation at $25. | 16:18 |
| Wolfger | ah | 16:18 |
| gamerchick02 | which means i'll be closer to the $20 mark, and probably lower. since i'm female. and not worth more. | 16:18 |
| gamerchick02 | and since i'll have to carry insurance thanks to 'bamacare, i'm sure my net will go down to probably something like $10/hr | 16:19 |
| Wolfger | well, IMO, you need to quit thinking that way. It may or may not be true, but if you are thinking that going into things, you're handicapping yourself | 16:19 |
| gamerchick02 | perhaps, but ranting about it actually helps. | 16:20 |
| gamerchick02 | i'm grumpy today. | 16:20 |
| Wolfger | rant away then :-) | 16:20 |
| Wolfger | besides, what do I know? I'm just a man. | 16:20 |
| gamerchick02 | feel free to beat me with pointy sticks, as i probably deserve it. especially today. i've been horrible to people in here. | 16:20 |
| Wolfger | woot! | 16:20 |
| gamerchick02 | no, i count you as a friend. you know more than me. plenty more than me. | 16:20 |
| * gamerchick02 hugs Wolfger | 16:21 | |
| Wolfger | hey, cut that out | 16:21 |
| gamerchick02 | he he! | 16:21 |
| Wolfger | I can't beat you with pointy sticks if I'm being hugged | 16:21 |
| gamerchick02 | true. but that was my point!! | 16:21 |
| gamerchick02 | :-D | 16:21 |
| * gamerchick02 hugs everyone in here | 16:21 | |
| gamerchick02 | is anyone else in here looking forward to fall as much as i am? | 16:23 |
| Wolfger | fall is here, weather-wise, and I am loving it | 16:23 |
| gamerchick02 | as am i. cuddly sweaters! jeans! jackets! | 16:24 |
| gamerchick02 | i can hardly wait to pull out my long wool coat. | 16:24 |
| rick_h_ | I want the rain to stop | 16:24 |
| rick_h_ | must ride bike... | 16:24 |
| rick_h_ | but +1 on the temps | 16:25 |
| gamerchick02 | go out and start singing. | 16:25 |
| gamerchick02 | i recommend a grey suit and fedora and an umbrella. | 16:25 |
| gamerchick02 | and you'll need a lamppost. | 16:25 |
| gamerchick02 | "Come on with the rain, there's a smile on my face" | 16:25 |
| gamerchick02 | oh dear god, i think I've listened to that song too much when i can almost quote it word for word. | 16:25 |
| Wolfger | :-) | 16:27 |
| gamerchick02 | oh, Gene Kelly, you will never know what you've done to me... | 16:28 |
| snap-l | I wish that some Apple engineer would take a picture of a bowel movement with an iPhone 5, and upload it to Flickr | 16:30 |
| snap-l | leave it not-private for about 5 hours | 16:30 |
| snap-l | then make it private | 16:30 |
| rick_h_ | lol | 16:30 |
| snap-l | watching the tech news sites wax poetic over a bowl of shit would be awesome | 16:31 |
| snap-l | "Look at the camera resolution" | 16:31 |
| gamerchick02 | omg. snap-l that's awesome. | 16:35 |
| gamerchick02 | http://feministing.com/2011/09/08/on-being-a-chef-a-woman-and-the-need-for-safe-spaces/ relevant to everyone. | 16:42 |
| Wolfger | Man, what is it with my mind today? First it was The Ramones, now it's offshore support's name. Kumar Kandregula.... Kandregula. OMG, I'm getting support from Count Dracula?!? | 16:46 |
| snap-l | Wolfger: Maybe you should stop drinking at 10am | 16:47 |
| Wolfger | snap-l: maybe I should *start* drinking at 10am | 16:50 |
| gamerchick02 | lol @ wolfger. | 16:50 |
| gamerchick02 | time for lunch. back later | 16:51 |
| rick_h_ | Blazeix: I've got a property on a model that's a list. So model.triggers = [] is the default | 17:32 |
| rick_h_ | and then I'm doing a "add_trigger" method to append to it | 17:32 |
| rick_h_ | do you know of any way around .set({}) | 17:32 |
| rick_h_ | ? | 17:32 |
| rick_h_ | else I'll have to get it, append, and then reset it? | 17:32 |
| Blazeix | I'm just starting to look into that myself (that's why I was poking around the backbonejs-hierarchical library earlier) | 17:36 |
| Blazeix | So far my models have been pretty simple, I don't really have a system in place that handles it | 17:37 |
| rick_h_ | yea, I just pulled it, appended it, and put it back for now | 17:37 |
| rick_h_ | I need to dbl check events now | 17:37 |
| rick_h_ | if you .bind('change') several times does it overwrite or play nice and call multiple? | 17:38 |
| rick_h_ | ah cool, does a list yay | 17:39 |
| gamerchick02 | http://users.wolfcrews.com/toys/vikings/ relevant. | 17:53 |
| rick_h_ | woot! it works, feature parity reached | 18:08 |
| rick_h_ | love the model change events | 18:08 |
| snap-l | gamerchick02: Why? | 18:09 |
| gamerchick02 | what? viking cats are always relevant | 18:09 |
| gamerchick02 | not to this discussion, but to our lives. | 18:09 |
| gamerchick02 | :) | 18:09 |
| Wolfger | viking kittens are awesome | 18:10 |
| gamerchick02 | i'm feeling better after lunch. the cobwebs are starting to go away. | 18:10 |
| Wolfger | snap-l: because it rulez! | 18:10 |
| gamerchick02 | my brain feels better now. | 18:10 |
| gamerchick02 | i thought Wolfger would be in my corner. :-D | 18:10 |
| Blazeix | vikings are a metaphor for backbone.js, and kittens represent the MVC architectural pattern. | 18:12 |
| Blazeix | duh | 18:12 |
| gamerchick02 | i didn't know that. | 18:12 |
| Wolfger | so backbone.js makes MVC awesome? | 18:13 |
| Wolfger | what does the Led Zepplin tune represent? | 18:13 |
| snap-l | That we're migrating to backbone.js in droves | 18:15 |
| snap-l | We're immigrants from our other languages that have already been plundered and pillaged | 18:15 |
| Blazeix | I saw yesterday that both the new HTML5 pandora and the linkedin phone app are written in backbone. pretty cool | 18:15 |
| Wolfger | huh | 18:16 |
| rick_h_ | Blazeix: yea, it's more LoC than I had before, but love how the events are nice/grouped | 18:16 |
| rick_h_ | the view/model is split | 18:16 |
| rick_h_ | I could makes things better by doing collections, but skipped that for now | 18:16 |
| Wolfger | maybe I just don't pay attention to web stuff anymore, but I haven't heard of backbone until.... uh... 2 minutes ago? :-p | 18:17 |
| rick_h_ | what's awesome is it all just init's and it's all events after that | 18:17 |
| rick_h_ | Wolfger: it's all the rage for the last 3wk | 18:17 |
| Wolfger | so, like, forever in web terms :-D | 18:17 |
| brousch | Wolfger: don't feel too bad. i do pay attention and heard about it 2 weeks ago | 18:18 |
| Wolfger | "you're still using what? That is *so* 4 weeks ago..." | 18:18 |
| gamerchick02 | lol wolfger | 18:23 |
| gamerchick02 | i hadn't heard about it, but then again i don't pay much attention to computer languages. I'm horrible, i know. | 18:24 |
| snap-l | I have turned on my Thinkpad's light (work thinkpad) | 18:24 |
| gamerchick02 | oh dear god, that cake smells good. | 18:24 |
| snap-l | Partially because it's dark, and partially because I can | 18:24 |
| gamerchick02 | my mom's making a spice cake for the burrito dinner tomorrow. | 18:24 |
| gamerchick02 | you have a light on your computer? | 18:24 |
| gamerchick02 | how epic. | 18:24 |
| snap-l | Yes, yes I do | 18:24 |
| snap-l | it's the answer to the Mac backlit keyboard. | 18:25 |
| gamerchick02 | but... my mom's making a spice cake! | 18:25 |
| Blazeix | hm, can you control that light from software? it'd be interesting to hook it up to libnotify :) | 18:25 |
| gamerchick02 | i have no light on my computer. *sadface* | 18:25 |
| gamerchick02 | ooooh. that would be cool! | 18:25 |
| snap-l | Blazeix: I wouldn't see why you couldn't, but I don't know how | 18:25 |
| Wolfger | Blazeix++ | 18:26 |
| Blazeix | I think I have that light on my lappy, too. I think it's been turned on once, maybe. | 18:26 |
| snap-l | I think it's part of the T series | 18:27 |
| snap-l | there's a keypress that might turn it on under Linux | 18:27 |
| Wolfger | Blazeix: and the answer is, yes you can. http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ThinkLight | 18:27 |
| snap-l | honestly, I never tried when I had Ubuntu on this machine | 18:28 |
| Blazeix | Wolfger: nice | 18:30 |
| snap-l | OK, I really love King Crimson's Vroom album | 18:31 |
| rick_h_ | Blazeix: yea, there's a pidgin plugin to do it | 18:33 |
| rick_h_ | so that it blinks that light whenever you get a message | 18:33 |
| Wolfger | would be annoying if you're working in the dark with your light on and it starts blinking, though | 18:34 |
| rick_h_ | meh, I used it for new messages long ago | 18:37 |
| snap-l | you'd know you had a message. :) | 18:37 |
| rick_h_ | now my laptop is docked so I don't see the light anyway | 18:37 |
| rick_h_ | bwuhaha, showed the boss the backbone stuff and now it's going to be class time | 18:37 |
| Wolfger | I sense more quality time with NC in your future | 18:38 |
| rick_h_ | nooooooooo | 18:38 |
| rick_h_ | he rose up again earilier "how come this command doesn't work? It says it cannot find a _build directory?" | 18:38 |
| rick_h_ | "do you have the default sphinx _build directory?" | 18:38 |
| rick_h_ | "no, I tell sphinx I don't want one, I like it this way vs default" | 18:39 |
| gamerchick02 | sphinx_build? for real? | 18:39 |
| rick_h_ | well...ima guess that's the problem | 18:39 |
| rick_h_ | now, _build is the dir that sphinx creates if you go defaults | 18:39 |
| rick_h_ | he was mad my script failed because he didn't use the defaults | 18:39 |
| gamerchick02 | when I think of sphinx, i think of the stone cat things in Egypt. | 18:39 |
| rick_h_ | heh, no, sphinx the python documentation tool | 18:40 |
| gamerchick02 | :) very cool. | 18:43 |
| rick_h_ | cat people :P | 18:43 |
| Wolfger | LOL | 18:44 |
| gamerchick02 | i'm allergic. the only reason i say that is because of Nile. the sphinx is one of our unofficial symbols. | 18:44 |
| gamerchick02 | but i do love kitties! too bad i'm allergic to them. i'd probably have one. | 18:45 |
| Wolfger | I'd be happy to give you one | 18:45 |
| Wolfger | I'm down to 3, and one of them I don't much like | 18:46 |
| Wolfger | and I think it's safe to say we'll probably never have another cat after these 3 pass. | 18:46 |
| rick_h_ | +1 | 18:46 |
| rick_h_ | worst mistake ever | 18:46 |
| Wolfger | I've had some really cool cats. Still have one of them. But they are so hit-and-miss, and having cats and dogs in the same house is just insane | 18:47 |
| Wolfger | and when we get fleas... bathing cats is total bloody suckage | 18:48 |
| gamerchick02 | oh no! | 18:48 |
| gamerchick02 | maybe if i get one of these jobs i'm in for and move, i might take you up on that offer | 18:49 |
| Wolfger | The one I'm trying to get rid of is ridiculously affectionate. | 18:49 |
| gamerchick02 | down to 3? how many did you have, wolfger? | 18:49 |
| gamerchick02 | oh, sounds cute! | 18:49 |
| snap-l | I love cats. | 18:49 |
| Wolfger | Like, force herself on you affectionate. Which is why we don't like her | 18:50 |
| gamerchick02 | oh. well, i'd need to take some time and meet the cat first. | 18:50 |
| gamerchick02 | like sit on your computer? or something? | 18:50 |
| Wolfger | We had five, a couple of them passed away, and then we rescued a couple from a friend's house when her dog mauled one of them. | 18:50 |
| gamerchick02 | eep. sounds like you've got a good kitty heart! :) | 18:51 |
| Wolfger | and one more passed, and we found a home for one of the rescues | 18:51 |
| Wolfger | so... down to 3, hoping to get down to 2 | 18:51 |
| gamerchick02 | well, if i end up getting one of these jobs, i'll have to take a look. | 18:52 |
| gamerchick02 | you have a dog too? some cats and dogs get on really well. | 18:52 |
| Wolfger | That would be great! | 18:52 |
| snap-l | "Keep on Rotting in the Free World" by Carcass | 18:52 |
| Wolfger | I am down to 4 dogs | 18:52 |
| gamerchick02 | 4 dogs. wow! | 18:52 |
| gamerchick02 | you've got a zoo! | 18:52 |
| Wolfger | The cats and the Great Dane get along great. | 18:52 |
| gamerchick02 | not as bad as my friend's daughter Amy. they have goats, cats, a dog, and chickens now | 18:53 |
| snap-l | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiXwatdG30Y | 18:53 |
| Wolfger | The 3 basenjis have a high prey drive, though, and chase the cats. | 18:53 |
| gamerchick02 | yes, they live on a farm | 18:53 |
| gamerchick02 | snap-l, there's a band called Carcass? | 18:53 |
| Wolfger | big dogs > little dogs | 18:53 |
| snap-l | gamerchick02: there's bands called much worse. | 18:54 |
| gamerchick02 | oi. | 18:54 |
| gamerchick02 | i know. | 18:54 |
| gamerchick02 | some bands don't make sense with their name. | 18:54 |
| snap-l | Bring Me the Horizon | 18:54 |
| snap-l | Suicide Silence | 18:54 |
| snap-l | hate those names | 18:54 |
| snap-l | Alexisonfire | 18:54 |
| gamerchick02 | strange names. | 18:54 |
| jrwren | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_IGuUsqJwQ | 19:12 |
| snap-l | Apparently a hot topic exploded in Germany | 19:14 |
| jrwren | lol. | 19:14 |
| snap-l | jrwren: Reminds me of this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aS-gGYaA8F0&ob=av3e | 19:16 |
| jrwren | haha, me too. | 19:19 |
| jrwren | sadly, Monday nights at necto is more like the former than the latter. | 19:19 |
| snap-l | Yeah, I can imagine | 19:19 |
| jrwren | you just reminded me that SP Rabies is only 3 yrs away in my playlist :) | 19:20 |
| jrwren | err... 5 hrs... I guess I'll get to it tomorrow. | 19:20 |
| snap-l | Man that's a major playlist. | 19:21 |
| snap-l | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eL7T3apuzQU&feature=BFa <-The Afternoon cries for Metal | 19:28 |
| gamerchick02 | the afternoon cries for metal? | 19:44 |
| brousch | snap-l: don't you use blender? this looks up your alley http://ht.ly/1eBkpk | 20:05 |
| TeamXlink | Wow, its amazing the up time of computers that people have. | 20:09 |
| TeamXlink | If anyones on the grlug mailing list, you should read the "Moment of Silence" thread it is amazing, the archive of it is here: http://shinobu.grlug.org/pipermail/grlug/2011-September/thread.html (I would link directly to it, but it isn't in one link.) | 20:10 |
| TeamXlink | This was something someone said: | 20:11 |
| TeamXlink | "Phil - that is funny you bring up that story. IBM iSeries/AS/400/i5 sales/service/administration people used to (and maybe still do) tell a similar story about a AS/400 that was dry walled into a closet for years... only to be found when they needed to do a system upgrade." | 20:11 |
| TeamXlink | ./end quote | 20:11 |
| TeamXlink | That is amazing to think a computer being dry walled in a closet still running for that long! | 20:12 |
| gamerchick02 | whoa. and i shut my laptop off at night. | 20:12 |
| gamerchick02 | so it's only uptime is like 8-12 hours at most. | 20:12 |
| _stink_ | does a linode count? i'm not exactly responsible for the power and stuff... but 266 days | 20:13 |
| _stink_ | not that it's a contest. | 20:13 |
| TeamXlink | I currently run a Linux dedicated erver running Warsow (Before that it was Quake 3), and its uptime is until our power goes out. | 20:14 |
| brousch | TeamXlink: Ben Rousch started that? I hate that guy. Fuck him right in the neck. | 20:15 |
| _stink_ | yeah | 20:16 |
| devinheitmueller | heh | 20:16 |
| TeamXlink | ./me doesn't think its good to hate yourself, if I understand this correctly. | 20:16 |
| * TeamXlink doesn't think its good to hate yourself, if I understand this correctly. | 20:17 | |
| TeamXlink | At school today we had to do a pretest on the computers in Civics class. and I noticed that in the lab we were in, it didn't have Microsoft Office. | 20:17 |
| TeamXlink | It had OpenOffice. | 20:17 |
| brousch | it wasn't meant to to turn into a uptime penis measuring contest, but such things usually end up that way | 20:17 |
| brousch | what scool? | 20:18 |
| TeamXlink | East Kentwood High School | 20:20 |
| TeamXlink | I' | 20:20 |
| TeamXlink | m not sure if its on all of the computers in the school but it was on the ones in that lab. | 20:20 |
| brousch | nice | 20:20 |
| brousch | TeamXlink: did you know there's an active grlug irc channel? | 20:22 |
| TeamXlink | No, I didn't | 20:22 |
| TeamXlink | Sweet! | 20:22 |
| * TeamXlink goes to set that one up to autojoin as well. | 20:23 | |
| snap-l | brousch: The Blender Game Engine has been a part of Blender since the 1.x series | 20:24 |
| brousch | so use it! | 20:25 |
| brousch | and the python3 scripting engine | 20:25 |
| jrwren | brousch: I don't think Bob Kline has his numbers right :) | 20:29 |
| brousch | jrwren: don't go there. BK is special | 20:30 |
| jrwren | k | 20:30 |
| tyrok | Hi! Heard about the channel and thought I'd drop by. | 20:42 |
| Blazeix | hey! | 20:43 |
| snap-l | Welcome | 20:43 |
| === vanberge is now known as vanberge_idle | ||
| snap-l | Have I mentioned lately that I really hate SOAP and XML? | 21:05 |
| gamerchick02 | SOAP? | 22:39 |
| snap-l | Shitty Object Assinine Protocol | 22:40 |
| snap-l | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SOAP | 22:40 |
| widox | hey-o | 23:43 |
| widox | visiting our old madison heights caribou this evening | 23:43 |
| snap-l | Oh, nice | 23:43 |
| rick_h_ | woo | 23:45 |
| gamerchick02 | lol snap-l | 23:45 |
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