[02:03] <shantorn> how did saturdays activities go?
[02:27] <bkerensa> shantorn: Really good :) we waited a half hour for you :P\
[02:30] <C_Smith> hello
[03:40] <C_Smith> quick question: does it matter if I use Kubuntu to be productive in the group?
[03:41] <bkerensa> C_Smith: Nope you can use whatever distro or variant of Ubuntu you so choose
[03:41] <bkerensa> :)
[03:41] <bkerensa> In other locos some people use Debian and even Fedora but they usually dual-boot to Ubuntu as well
[03:41] <bkerensa> Kubuntu is a officially recognized ubuntu flavor
[03:44] <C_Smith> cool, thinking about setting up an openSUSE dualboot myself, both KDE.
[03:44] <C_Smith> but my previous experiences with openSUSE are still heavy on my mind.
[03:47] <C_Smith> yay! found my Transflash (MicroSD) card!
[05:06] <bkerensa> cool
[16:12] <bkerensa> =o
[16:25] <tgm4883>  anyone know of a extension for gnome-shell to control google music?
[16:32] <bkerensa> tgm4883: thefinn93 likely does he loves Google Music
[16:32] <bkerensa> :D
[17:02] <Brian_H> I use subsonic it's a pretty solid music server and has clients for iphone/android/desktop
[21:49] <c_smith> g'day.
[21:50] <c_smith> hopefully this version of Pidgin doesn't crash on me.
[21:51] <c_smith> so, how is everyone?
[21:51] <tgm4883> xchat FTW!
[21:53] <thefinn93> w00t xchat
[21:54] <tgm4883> thefinn93!
[21:54] <thefinn93> that is me
 tgm4883: thefinn93 likely does he loves Google Music
[21:54] <bkerensa> c_smith: Who uses Pidgin for IRC?
[21:54] <thefinn93> tgm4883, what was the context of that
[21:54] <thefinn93> oh wait i see
[21:55] <tgm4883> thefinn93, anyone know of a extension for gnome-shell to control google music?
[21:55] <thefinn93> yeah idk
[21:55] <thefinn93> i have Comca$t internet
[21:55] <tgm4883> thats helpful ;)
[21:55] <thefinn93> with a 250Gb cap
[21:55] <tgm4883> as do I
[21:55] <thefinn93> so i can't use Google Music
[21:55] <thefinn93> for fear of blowing that cap
[21:55] <bkerensa> tgm4883 & c_smith: I think you guys got enough people in your neck of the woods to hold a Ubuntu Hour.... I know there is one or two other people out there
[21:55] <tgm4883> Apparently you download way more than I do
[21:55] <bkerensa> :D
[21:56] <thefinn93> that includes uploading
[21:56] <tgm4883> thefinn93, :(
[21:56] <bkerensa> tgm4883: I try and use as much bandwidth as possible
[21:56] <bkerensa> :D
[21:56] <thefinn93> and Google Music is streaming, which is like downloading it *every time you want to listen to a song*
[21:56] <thefinn93> actually it is that, not just like that
[21:57] <tgm4883> I use it mostly for work/evo
[21:57] <tgm4883> I do have a local copy of the stuff at home
[21:57] <thefinn93> a
[21:57] <c_smith> bkerensa, apparently, I'm one of the few who use Pidgin for IRC.
[21:57] <bkerensa> man this channel is much more active these days
[21:57] <thefinn93> yeah i don't have a smart phone
[21:57]  * bkerensa slaps thefinn93
[21:57] <bkerensa> :D
[21:57] <tgm4883> smart phones FTW!
[21:57] <thefinn93> c_smith, yeah i used to use it but it kept freezing up on me
[21:57] <bkerensa> I'm getting a new smartphone next month
[21:57] <thefinn93> "new"
[21:57] <bkerensa> likely a Android or iPhone
[21:57] <thefinn93> sounds like it's replacing your old one
[21:58] <bkerensa> not sure which yet... I have an upgrade available
[21:58] <thefinn93> but that thing you have
 a Android
[21:58] <tgm4883> *fixed*
[21:58] <thefinn93> can barly cound as one
[21:58] <thefinn93> yeah
[21:58] <thefinn93> android phone
[21:58] <thefinn93> get it
[21:58] <bkerensa> thefinn93: LOL why? WebOS is a smartphone platform
[21:58] <thefinn93> yes but that POS was not a smart phone
[21:58] <tgm4883> bkerensa, so is Windows Phone 7 Series
[21:58]  * bkerensa might actually go iPhone 
[21:59] <thefinn93> me: "check the google map on your smart phone" bkerensa: "I cant it'll kill the battery"
[21:59] <bkerensa> tgm4883: I know speaking of that Microsoft offered me one for free
[21:59] <bkerensa> :D
[21:59] <c_smith> the main reason, as I have said, that i use pidgin is because it's the only Linux IM program that has an Xfire plugin, and I have a lot of people I talk to on Xfire.
[21:59] <bkerensa> thefinn93: What smartphone doesnt suck battery? Check reviews for android and iphones
[21:59] <c_smith> brb, gonna restart PC.
[22:00] <bkerensa> thefinn93: My palm is also overclocked
[22:00] <thefinn93> bkerensa, i am aware of that, but you can't do anything on it
[22:00] <thefinn93> ah that'd help
[22:00] <bkerensa> and it has nginx, sshd and many other things running
[22:00] <bkerensa> :D
[22:00] <bkerensa> Optware for the win
[22:00] <thefinn93> so useful
[22:01] <thefinn93> i'll make sure to put nginx on my smart phone as soon as i get one
[22:01] <tgm4883> anyone going to UDS?
[22:02] <bkerensa> not this year
[22:02] <bkerensa> I'm waiting till its out of country again
[22:02]  * bkerensa doesnt really wanna go to the midwest or east coast (wherever they are having it)
[22:03] <bkerensa> although I think they are planning for a West Coast location soon :)
[22:03] <thefinn93> the occupy wallstreet folks should buy a ton of these and all hold them when the cops come
[22:03] <thefinn93> http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00125J4FY/ref=nosim/?tag=kerrlong-20
[22:04] <c_smith> and I'm back, kernel was updated, so that was why I needed to restart.
[22:04] <tgm4883> c_smith, bip FTW
[22:04] <tgm4883> bkerensa, maybe in a year?
[22:04] <tgm4883> next UDS will be foreign
[22:05] <bkerensa> tgm4883: idk I asked Jono when we could see one on the west coast and he said something about a possible bay area
[22:05] <c_smith> bip?
[22:05]  * bkerensa would love to see it in Portland which makes more sense for cost purposes
[22:05] <tgm4883> probably trying to hit up mountain view again
[22:05] <bkerensa> expensive =/
[22:05] <tgm4883> c_smith, yep, bip
[22:05] <bkerensa> why pay two times for venue in California when you can do it in Oregon cheaper
[22:06] <tgm4883> http://bip.milkypond.org/
[22:06] <c_smith> what's bip?
[22:06]  * tgm4883 shrugs
[22:06] <thefinn93> tgm4883, what does that have over, say, znc?
[22:06] <thefinn93> c_smith, bip appears to be an IRC bouncer
[22:06] <tgm4883> thefinn93, I've not used znc
[22:06] <thefinn93> i use it
[22:06] <thefinn93> it's nice
[22:06] <c_smith> ah, i see.
[22:06] <tgm4883> I connect to it from home, work, phone
[22:06] <thefinn93> c_smith, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IRC_bouncer - that is what bip is
[22:07] <c_smith> not of use to me
[22:07] <tgm4883> always have backlog
[22:07] <tgm4883> never logged off
[22:07] <thefinn93> yeah
[22:07] <thefinn93> same
[22:07] <thefinn93> also znc is extensible
[22:07] <c_smith> brb, restarting pidgin for Xfire
[22:07] <thefinn93> aaannd that's what a BNC is for
[22:07] <tgm4883> yep
[22:08] <bkerensa> znc is kinda shoddy imho
[22:08] <tgm4883> signon: Fri Aug 19 02:36:27
[22:08] <tgm4883> server was having some issues I guess
[22:08] <thefinn93> bkerensa, what do you use?
[22:08] <bkerensa> thefinn93: I use znc because psybnc is to much to config for me :P
[22:08] <thefinn93> i see
[22:09] <bkerensa> but the buffer sucks on this and it keeps prefixing everything with +
[22:09] <tgm4883> I'd like something that places every time someone says my name into another window
[22:09] <tgm4883> something server side that is, not client side
[22:09] <bkerensa> =o
[22:09] <bkerensa> yeah
[22:10] <thefinn93> that could be done
[22:10] <thefinn93> write an extension
[22:10] <bkerensa> tgm4883: You looked so bored at global jam :P
[22:10] <thefinn93> i don't know C
[22:10] <thefinn93> :(
[22:10] <tgm4883> bkerensa, I didn't really know what to expect, so I just sat back and watched
[22:10] <tgm4883> plus, I was actually doing bug work ;)
[22:11] <bkerensa> well I intended to break into groups but hella people didnt show and I was trying to give time and time was too short
[22:11] <bkerensa> next time I wanna make it like four hours and double the food and double the swag
[22:11] <bkerensa> :D
[22:11] <bkerensa> maybe even a DJ :)
[22:11] <thefinn93> i approve
[22:12] <tgm4883> you should see if bdmurray is still willing to do  a bug talk
[22:12]  * bkerensa pings bdmurray
[22:12] <bkerensa> :D
[22:12] <bkerensa> If he is willing I can setup a Ubuntu Hour
[22:12] <bdmurray> Hello
[22:12] <bkerensa> and there he is :)
[22:13] <bkerensa> bdmurray: There is some interest for you to hold a bug talk :)
[22:13]  * bkerensa would be interested
[22:13] <tgm4883> bdmurray, I know the offer was there in the past around gutsy time, but I didn't know if the offer stood
[22:14] <bdmurray> I can still talk and still know about bug so ... yes! ;-)
[22:15] <bkerensa> hmm maybe shirgall will come to Oneiric release
[22:15] <bkerensa> :D
[22:15] <bkerensa> He could tell us about his cool projects and pandaboards :)
[22:17] <c_smith> there we go, had to compile the xfire plugin from source.
[22:21] <bdmurray> bkerensa: so I'm fairly flexible just let me know
[22:22] <c_smith> bdmurray, why do I recognize your handle from another Ubuntu room?
[22:22] <c_smith> even i don't know XD
[22:22] <bdmurray> c_smith: I'm in most of them ;-)
[22:23] <c_smith> ah, ok,
[22:23] <bkerensa> c_smith: bdmurray is the Ubuntu Bug Czar
[22:23] <bkerensa> and works for Canonical
[22:23] <bkerensa> ;)
[22:23] <c_smith> for a second I thought I recognized you from Ultimate Edition stuff, but I don't believe that's you
[22:23] <c_smith> oh, cool! LD
[22:23] <c_smith> :D
[22:24] <bkerensa> yep right now there are two Canonical employees who idle if we could get the rest who live in the area it might be nice :)
[22:24] <c_smith> nice
[22:25] <bdmurray> I'm fairly certain they'd show up at a release party
[22:26] <c_smith> hrrrmmmm, libGL.so.1 looks to be here..... but my apps aren't detecting it. strange.
[22:26] <c_smith> but I guess it's to be expected with beta versions! :D
[22:26] <bdmurray> c_smith: oneiric? amd64?
[22:26] <c_smith> yep
[22:26] <bkerensa> bdmurray: If they knew of it :P I have no way of summoning them heck I dont even know all of the Canonical employees you have hiding out here :D
[22:26] <c_smith> x86_64
[22:27] <bdmurray> c_smith: did you setup multi-arch?
[22:27] <bkerensa> Oneiric is buggy as it gets :P  but luckily all the bugs I'm finding are reported already
[22:27] <c_smith> multiarch?
[22:27] <c_smith> what do you mean by that?
[22:27] <bdmurray> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2011-August/000886.html
[22:28] <bkerensa> ;)
[22:28] <c_smith> that could prove useful.
[22:29]  * bkerensa goes back to watching bugs-announce
[22:32] <c_smith> I'm gonna try getting to the coffee shop which I'm told has wifi and is big enough to house member from the Willamette valley from the team tomorrow and see if we can use it.
[22:34] <tgm4883> bkerensa, did you advertise the bug jam to the PDX team?
[22:34] <bkerensa> c_smith: Ask them if their java is open source
[22:34] <bkerensa> tgm4883: PDX Team?
[22:34] <c_smith> not sure what you mean.
[22:34] <tgm4883> bkerensa, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PDXTeam
[22:35] <tgm4883> they have a mailing list as well I believe
[22:35] <c_smith> bkerensa, is that a joke, or what? I feel I'm missing something there.
[22:35] <tgm4883> it appears their irc channel is empty though
[22:35] <tgm4883> not sure if they are still around
[22:36] <bkerensa> tgm4883: I think thats abandoned I had e-mail them in the past and got no response... Dan was on there but to my knowledge that and PNW are ghosts
[22:36] <tgm4883> when we held the gutsy release party, a lot of people showed up because they were subscribed to their mailing list
[22:36] <bkerensa> c_smith: They sell java... ask them if its open source ;0 yeah its a joke
[22:36] <tgm4883> probably true
[22:36] <tgm4883> java == coffee
[22:36] <c_smith> oh, I see.
[22:37] <bkerensa> tgm4883: Ideally we will be rm'ing pdx and then PNW will become a joint collabo between Oregon/WA/Idaho
[22:37] <tgm4883> not Idaho
[22:37] <bkerensa> ?
[22:37] <tgm4883> There are two things I don't like. 1) Bigotry, 2) people from Idaho
[22:38] <bkerensa> LOL
[22:38] <bkerensa> Idaho is a weird place... I lived in Nampa for a period of time and it was odd
[22:38] <bkerensa> :P
[22:38]  * bkerensa went to culinary school at Centennial in Nampa, ID
[22:39] <tgm4883> hmm, it's interesting what you learn when you go back and read beginning python books
[22:39] <tgm4883> I should be doing that!
[22:39] <bkerensa> tgm4883: Well Idaho has a lot of bigotry I would say :)
[22:39] <bkerensa> tgm4883: imho Idaho and Washington are the biggest strongholds of Bigotry in the region :D
[22:40] <tgm4883> we should just make them part of Oregon
[22:40] <bkerensa> It seems like a lot of White Supremacy in Idaho and Washington
[22:40] <bkerensa> LOL
[22:40] <bkerensa> :P
[22:40] <c_smith> brb, gotta restart to kill wine,
[22:40] <bkerensa> tgm4883: idk I have to talk to WA about it.... Council has me working with WA on PNW stuff
[22:40] <tgm4883> restart to kill wine?
[22:41] <bkerensa> LOL
[22:41] <bkerensa> terminal - killall
[22:41] <tgm4883> kill -9 wine?
[22:41] <bkerensa> yep
[22:41] <bkerensa> :)
[22:41] <tgm4883> noob
[22:41] <bkerensa> he needs schooling ;) its ok he will learn
[22:42] <tgm4883> well crap
[22:42] <tgm4883> so I asked for time off for UDS
[22:42] <bkerensa> tgm4883: Can I pm?
[22:42] <tgm4883> bkerensa, yea
[22:55] <bkerensa> Btw guys we will have a banner for events and booths soon Brian_H's company is sponsoring it
[22:55] <bkerensa> :D
[22:56] <thefinn93> w00t
[22:56] <Brian_H> whoo whoo :)
[22:56] <tgm4883> lol
[22:56] <tgm4883> perfect timing
[22:57] <tgm4883> I'm listening to some black eyed peas and they sang "woo hoo"
[22:57] <tgm4883> right as Brian_H did
[23:01] <thefinn93> what was that op business all about?
[23:01] <Brian_H> hahah nice
[23:02] <bkerensa> thefinn93: me anbd tgm4883 were testing access :)
[23:02] <thefinn93> ah
[23:03] <bkerensa> el_seano: Are you SeanR ?
[23:21] <Gerty_> Just moved to Eugene. Can anyone recommend an ISP?
[23:22] <tgm4883> Gerty_, you don't want Clear
[23:22] <Gerty_> Which leaves me with...
[23:22] <tgm4883> You apparently really only have 2 choices, CenturyLink and Comcast
[23:23] <tgm4883> cable vs dsl
[23:23] <tgm4883> Alan says he has comcast
[23:23] <tgm4883> I'm at work, so I'm polling my coworkers
[23:23] <Gerty_> Awesome.
[23:23] <Gerty_> I've heard comcast likes to up the price on you. Dunno anything about "centurylink"
[23:23] <tgm4883> they basically said No clear
[23:23] <tgm4883> centurylink is the new qwest
[23:26] <tgm4883> why the move to Eugene?
[23:26] <Gerty_> Tryin' to get leart.
[23:27] <el_seano> bkerensa: nope
[23:28] <bkerensa> Hi Gerty_
[23:29] <Gerty_> Yo.
[23:29] <bkerensa> Gerty_: All ISP's generally up prices... Usually they offer you a initial deal but the contract allows them to hike after your initial price expires
[23:30] <Brian_H> if you call them back and tell them you need the 6 month promo price again they generally give it to you :p
[23:30] <Gerty_> Heh heh. Worth a try.
[23:30] <Brian_H> "look man times are hard... going to need you to lower the price or I have to cancel"
[23:30] <Brian_H> do it myself every 6 mo :p
[23:30] <Brian_H> heck I've even had the employees tell me to call back in 6 mo
[23:31] <Brian_H> lol
[23:31] <Gerty_> That is good to know.
[23:32] <Gerty_> And which ISP is that?
[23:32] <bkerensa> brb xchat is acting up
[23:33]  * bkerensa uses Comcast Business Class
[23:52] <Brian_H> comcast :p
[23:52] <Brian_H> or verizon/frontier
[23:54] <Gerty_> tgm4883: So why does everyone hate Clear?
[23:59] <thefinn93> because it is terrible
[23:59] <thefinn93> slow speeds
[23:59] <thefinn93> unreliable