[00:22] <burner> why did both my upgrades to oneiric break nvidia drivers?  if I remove xorg.conf, all is well, but then I'm using nouveau right?  How can I use nvidia?
[01:46] <Exodus> burner, you should install the 'nvidia-current' package
[01:47] <Exodus> burner, also, use the nvidia-xconfig tool for anything X.org conf related
[01:47] <einseenai> hello, guys, i removed opensuse and windows from my UEFI based Thinkpad laptop and now i can't install opensuse nor ubuntu. grub installation fails while installing with live cd saying it's can install grub-efi to /target/ and after reboot it says No operating system found!!.. i tried to install grub manually with grub-install but it fails saying smth about GPT. please, help!
[01:47] <Exodus> burner, on a clean ubuntu install or upgrades, 'nvidia-current' should keep you updated both driver-wise and xorg.conf-wise
[01:50] <einseenai> anybody, please?
[01:50] <Exodus> einseenai, no clue, you should give us the output of grub-install
[01:51] <Exodus> something about gpt isn't really useful
[01:51] <einseenai> Exodus, i will now. a sec.
[01:56] <einseenai> Exodus, i have read somewhere that creating 200mb partition with /boot flag can help, now installed xubuntu and what got is - http://pastebin.com/2tjSTEEL - but the thing is that i get it anyway - do i create /boot or not
[02:02] <Exodus> Lemme see if I can recall or find anything about this
[02:03] <einseenai> ok, thaks a lot
[02:04] <Exodus> einseenai, found this article: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFIBooting
[02:05] <einseenai> Exodus, thx, i'll see
[02:05] <escott> einseenai, you need a grub_bios partition for gpt/efi
[02:05] <escott> einseenai, but that is distinct from a /boot
[02:05] <Exodus> einseenai, it's not a step by step article, you don't have to build or compile as it mentions in the first parts, further down there is mention of creating that 100mb partition for gpt
[02:05] <einseenai> Exodus, thanks a lot. -)
[02:06] <Exodus> einseenai, np
[02:32] <burner> Exodus: what if it's not clean... how do I fix it and regenerate xorg.conf that works with nvidia?
[02:32] <Drakeson> dpkg-reconfigure console-setup does not actually work for the next boot. what might be wrong?
[02:32] <burner> nvidia-xconfig generates and xorg, but I get no display... just a term like screen since lightdm presumably crashes
[02:33] <Exodus> burner, xorg.conf isn't necesary for X to lift
[02:33] <Exodus> you can always delete xorg.conf and it'll work
[02:33] <Exodus> but if you delete it, run nvidia-xconfig
[02:33] <Exodus> also, if you have a weird keyboard distribution, that's saved in xorg.conf
[02:34] <Exodus> deleting xorg.conf isn't recommended
[02:52] <interlocutor> how stabole and feature complete is beta 1 of oneiric?
[02:52] <interlocutor> *stable
[02:53] <escott> interlocutor, varies week too week. last week i couldnt gnome-shell would segfault 4/5 times i started it
[02:56] <interlocutor> bummer
[02:57] <interlocutor> I need to reinstall fresh and it's going to suck installing 11.04 and then having to wipe again when 11.10 hits
[02:57] <interlocutor> i hear that in place distrobution upgrades on highly customized systems is pretty much a recipie for disaster...
[02:59] <escott> and there are a good number of changes from 11.04 to 11.10
[03:07] <interlocutor> well, I'd really like to try for production with beta 1. what are the pitfalls right now?  common bugs? missing features?
[03:07] <interlocutor> is there a comprehensive list of all the beta issues right now?
[03:07] <rww> You want to use a beta in production? Lawd.
[03:08] <interlocutor> well I mean, it's just my development box at home
[03:08] <interlocutor> I of course don't want to waste a shitload of time with a botched install, but I really want to avoid installing 11.04, getting settled in, and having to wipe and reinstall a month hence
[03:10] <escott> interlocutor, im not sure of any particular list, still a fair number of segfaults (thankfully nothing keeping me from using it right now). one issue that needs to get ironed out is multiarch for 64bit machines. ia32libs is being ripped out, but things like skype need their libraries to be manually installed
[03:10] <interlocutor> I guess I just need to know "how broken" the beta is to make a judgement call on if it's worth the risk
[03:11] <interlocutor> hmm ok. and what's the word on upgrading from beta 1 to beta 2 to RC and production? is it usually pretty hairy with ubuntu or is beta1 somewhat polished and likely to upgrade all the way to production ok?
[03:11] <IdleOne> interlocutor: assuming it is working fine right now it is also safe to assume that tomorrow it will be completely broken.
[03:50] <Exodus> interlocutor, go for it. Nothing inmensily horrible in Beta1. I'm actually running pretty stable atm, reporting this or that bug. A lot of the fundamental libraries are getting near frozen so that provides a good stable base.
[05:19] <apetrescu> Are there any repositories or PPAs for sun-java7-jdk yet? (Rather than the OpenJDK 7?)
[05:23] <marenostrum> apetrescu, I doubt that ppa guys are that much fast but I'm not sure.
[05:24] <apetrescu> Well, anybody can run a PPA, including Sun
[05:24] <apetrescu> If I can't find any, maybe I'll give packaging it a try
[05:27] <marenostrum> A few minutes ago I installed Dillo which was in a ppa befora but I even didn't dearch for 11.10 Beta 1. I compiled from the source.
[05:27] <marenostrum> *dearch= search
[05:44] <ActionParsnip> Hey guys, was there an update yesterday which made crappy intel gpus feel super slick?
[05:45] <cwillu_at_work> ActionParsnip, possible
[05:46] <ActionParsnip> Its a dell lat D420 and it was stupidly smooth. Was weird but awesome, even under gnome + compiz
[05:47] <cwillu_at_work> there was a new driver, or new something that took better advantage of the hardware;  could have been that, but I'm fuzzy on the details
[05:48] <ActionParsnip> I'll check dpkg.log later :-)
[05:49] <ActionParsnip> Thanks
[05:50] <AnAnt> Hello, anyone using Gnome shell on oneiric ?
[05:51] <urlin2u> using it right now.
[05:51] <AnAnt> urlin2u: did you try installing user-theme extension ?
[05:51] <almoxarife> gnome shell here
[05:51] <urlin2u> no never heard of it
[05:51] <AnAnt> ok
[05:52] <almoxarife> AnAnt: crashed shell right?
[05:52] <AnAnt> almoxarife: no, user-theme doesn't work at all, the error says that there is no main function
[05:53] <micahg> AnAnt: there's an FTBFS fix for the new version that needs sponsoring if you're interested
[05:54] <urlin2u> not sure I would try as it is a lot of stuff to throw at it.
[05:54] <almoxarife> AnAnt: I tried numerous times to install and run alt-menu extension, and everytime I lose the shell
[05:54] <bullgard4> How does GNOME 3 call the top line of the display image?
[05:54] <AnAnt> micahg: is there an LP ?
[05:55] <micahg> AnAnt: https://code.launchpad.net/~jbicha/ubuntu/oneiric/gnome-shell/3.1.90.1/+merge/74716
[05:56] <almoxarife> micahg: I am using another lp/ppa, is your link working for you?
[05:57] <micahg> almoxarife: that's not for a PPA, but for a merge proposal which AnAnt could sponsor if he choosed to
[05:58] <almoxarife> micahg: got you, I do wish there was a rating system for the ppa's
[05:58] <jbicha> almoxarife: the GNOME Shell extensions aren't really supported in Oneiric, you may need a newer GNOME Shell or a newer extension
[05:59] <AnAnt> micahg: I will need sometime to update pbuilder, build & test though
[05:59] <almoxarife> jbicha: I am at the mercy of the ppa I chose for how new or bug free my shell is
[06:00] <micahg> AnAnt: no problem, idk if it will fix your issue, just letting you know it's there
[06:00] <AnAnt> micahg: no, that doesn't seem a fix for my issue
[06:00] <micahg> AnAnt: I meant the new upstream version
[06:01] <jbicha> almoxarife: GNOME is working on making extensions better, there will be a website you can install them with, no need for a PPA
[06:02] <AnAnt> one problem I see with extensions is that the shell-version field (in metadata.json) should match the installed gnome-shell version, which means that for every gnome-shell update , the extension will need a rebuild
[06:04] <rww> it's firefox all over again
[06:04] <jbicha> another problem is that installed extensions are activated by default for all users (that in fact is why Debian hasn't packaged them yet)
[06:05] <AnAnt> micahg: 3.1.91 ?
[06:05] <micahg> AnAnt: 3.1.90.1, current binaries are 3.1.4
[06:06] <AnAnt> micahg: the new upstream is 3.1.91
[06:07] <jbicha> AnAnt: GNOME Shell now depends on caribou so we're waiting for that to get into the Ubuntu repositories
[06:07] <jbicha> 3.1.91 isn't much different than 3.1.90
[06:10] <bullgard4> How does GNOME 3 call the top line of the display image?
[06:14] <AnAnt> micahg: is anyone working on caribou ?
[06:15] <AnAnt> jbicha: oh, you're patch author !
[06:15] <micahg> AnAnt: idk, ask jbicha, he's a member of the -desktop team
[06:15] <AnAnt> jbicha: ^
[06:15] <jbicha> AnAnt: yes, ricotz and some Debian developers have been working on it
[06:16] <jbicha> I couldn't get the most recent version to run in Ubuntu or Fedora though so I'm not sure how soon it will be allowed in the Ubuntu archives
[06:17] <jbicha> although we don't need caribou to actually work, just that it's installed...
[06:39] <AnAnt> jbicha: so, how can I change the Gtk3 theme ?
[06:39] <jbicha> AnAnt: use gnome-tweak-tool
[06:40] <urlin2u> found a tweak to set the applications to a acceptable size. http://imagebin.org/171700
[07:28] <bullgard4> How does GNOME 3 call the top row of the display image?
[07:45] <topyli> bullgard4: iirc it's still 'the panel'
[07:46] <bullgard4> topyli: Ah! Thank you.
[07:47] <bullgard4> topyli: Fedora project used the term »top bar«.
[08:03] <AnAnt> micahg: does that patch close any LP bug ?
[09:11] <rigved> hi everyone. after the recent update to power, my power settings were reset to defaults (suspend after 30 minutes of inactivity). is this a bug or was this done on purpose?
[09:23] <survivor_6699> hello!
[09:24] <survivor_6699> i installed ubuntu 11.10 beta. and upon that gnome-shell. Now i wan to remove everything about unity safely. How can i do that? Thank you!
[09:27] <Stanley00> survivor_6699: I never done that before, but you can try apt-get remove unity, hope it works...
[09:28] <Stanley00> survivor_6699: I think if you dont like unity, install from alternate CD, and then install gnome-shell is better.
[09:30] <survivor_6699> Stanley00 i try to remove unity. It removes but i can see many packages about unity installed on software center. When i remove them too, i can not even open the login screen :( (I am not at position to install from alternate cd).
[09:32] <Stanley00> survivor_6699: apt-get remove unity, and then apt-get auto remove is safer,
[09:32] <Stanley00> survivor_6699: I rarely use Ubuntu Software Center actually ;)
[09:56] <lenios__> annoying... https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/likewise-open/+bug/845477
[10:23] <ebischoff> hi people, i'm now beta testing oneiric on my two computers, everything fine so far
[10:24] <ebischoff> just a small (minor) problem : in kmail 4.7.1, the filters don't seem to work anymore. Does that ring any bell?
[10:26] <rigved> ebischoff: check if there is a bug already filed against this. if not, then consider filing one yourself.
[10:27] <ebischoff> i already checked and did not find, but i thought it would be a good idea to ask here, because i might have missed the bug report while searching
[10:57] <bullgard4> rigved: My power settings have not been changed during the two recent distant-upgrades via UpdateManager. So I believe this is an error in your computer. and you should report it to Launchpad.
[10:57] <kjeldahl> Ok, decided to install Oneiric beta from scratch (again). On boot from the usb, the "friendly" install dvd mounts my old root, and is not able to umount it during installation. Any easy way to tell it to not touch the old harddisk, except for actually install to it?
[11:03] <bullgard4> kjeldahl: You need to differentiate between harddisk and "partition".  All Ubuntu installers allow you to select by hand the partitions where to install your new Ubuntu.
[11:05] <bullgard4> What does "leagacy" mean in the path /lib/modules/3.0.0.10-server/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/iwlegacy/iwl4965.ko?
[11:06] <bullgard4> -a
[11:06] <Lynoure> iwlegacy is the module name.
[11:07] <bullgard4> Lynoure: What module do you speak about?
[11:07] <kjeldahl> bullgard4: I think I'm mixing up my hd and usb stick during install. When I'm prompted to use the whole harddisk and tell it to go ahead and I'm pretty sure it's on the harddisk because it shows 500gb available... But it keeps telling me it is having trouble umounting filesystems necessary for installing, which made me believe it actually mounted my old harddisk. When I nuked the root partition, my usb didn't boot, so I guess my
[11:07] <kjeldahl> assumptions about what root actually was/is was wrong. But then I have no clue why it is having trouble umounting a disk which is not even in use. It may be something else though, I'll dig deeper..
[11:07] <Lynoure> bullgard4: the one in your path.
[11:08] <bullgard4> Lynoure: In my path there are drectories and no modules.
[11:08] <Lynoure> bullgard4: just tried to answer your question, that is.
[11:08] <Lynoure> bullgard4: you asked what "legacy" means there.
[11:09] <bullgard4> Lynoure: Yes I did. And you gave a wrong answer. Because in a path there are no modules but directories.
[11:09] <Lynoure> bullgard4: it's part of the module name.
[11:10] <bullgard4> Lynoure: The name of what module?
[11:11] <Lynoure> bullgard4: as confusing as this might sound, /lib/modules/3.0.0.10-server/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/iwlegacy/ is the directory for a kernel module for wireless networking, for kernel version 3.0.0.10. But never mind me, if it feels too confusing.
[11:13] <Lynoure> bullgard4: iw stands for Intel Wireless (and it is for chipsets 3945ABG/BG, 4965AGN)
[11:15] <Adys> http://dpaste.com/611765/
[11:15] <Adys> The hell is this?
[11:15] <bullgard4> kjeldahl: What is the output of your Ubuntu install DVD for the command '~$ df -h'?
[11:15] <Lynoure> bullgard4: I don't know for sure why they named it that way, prebably because it is superceded by iwlwifi
[11:16] <bullgard4> Lynoure: Ok. Thank you very much for your help.
[11:16] <kjeldahl> bullgard4: Nevermind, looks like some issue with the USB stick. After I nuked the partition on it manually and recreated it, things look and work a bit different, so I'm suspecting my USB wasn't completely installed correctly (it had an alpha that I assumed usb-creator would overwrite correctly, but it looks like that did not happen).
[11:17] <kjeldahl> bullgard4: Works better now; "formatting ...". Thanks for trying to help anyway.
[11:17] <bullgard4> kjeldahl: Enjoy Ubuntu!
[11:18] <kjeldahl> bullgard4: Always have, despite always keeping hitting myself in the head trying to throw the latest hardware at it... :-)
[11:20] <bullgard4> kjeldahl: It is wise to wait installing new software releases.
[11:20] <bullgard4> This will resuclt in much less work.
[11:21] <bullgard4> -c
[11:21] <kjeldahl> bullgard4: Unfortunately, that is not a cure for getting Ubuntu to run on Sandy Bridge laptops. Either you pollute the old release with new kernels and drivers, or you venture installing pre-release software. I'm thankful for Ubuntu, not so much for the support given by Intel, Nvidia and AMD...
[11:22] <bullgard4> hehe
[11:24] <kjeldahl> Uh oh; "installer crashed". Just when I finally thought I had it nailed..
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> kjeldahl: did you md5 test the iso you downloaded?
[11:26] <kjeldahl> ActionParsnip: Just did; matches fine.
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> kjeldahl: i suggest you do it BEFORE so you know the data is not corrupted.
[11:28] <Lynoure> kjeldahl: on one laptop I got installer crash quite late... and seemed to work fine still (crashed on looking for packages to remove, and the cd was fine)
[11:28] <Rods_Tiger> Hiya all. I'm still getting the effect on my usbflashdrive installation whereby it boots as far as checking battery, then never makes it to the GUI. If I go to tty1 sometimes the control+alt+f1 keys work, sometimes not and I have to restart. If they work I can log in and type startx and everything's fine.
[11:28] <Lynoure> kjeldahl: so makes sense to check at what point it crashed, even if you are not interested in submitting a bug.
[11:31] <kjeldahl> Lynoure: Yes, might be. ubuntu-bug says "Problem already known", so I doubt it's my specific installation. Looks like it's apport (needs and upgrade).
[11:34] <Lynoure> kjeldahl: oh, that's good.
[11:37] <lcb> Hi. after a daily fresh install about 12 hrs ago i can't get apt-get update 100%, it stays on "waiting for linux headers" so no updates or installs are possible. How can i solve this?
[11:37] <Rods_Tiger> Also, I briefly let some of my students explore the current oneiric as I had it installed, just to introduce them to an OS they're not used to. Their opinion of it was that it was interesting, but limited because it only has seven apps. Not one of them ever found any more than that, some only found four!
[11:42] <bullgard4> lcb: Probably just sit and wait and try later again. --  If you need a more precise answer then report exactloy what command you have issued and what exact error message did you obgtain.
[11:42] <bullgard4> -o
[11:43] <bullgard4> -g
[11:47] <kjeldahl> Lynoure: Upgrading just apport obviously wasn't enough. Trying a full upgrade before launching the installer again now.
[11:48] <lcb> bullgard4, i had to leave it and run a live media to come here exactly because I CAN'T update 100% nor install any apps,  as i said. I wouldn't point this out for no reason. About 12 hrs ago did the same, even after changing the repos from my country to 'main'. About the command, bullgard4, normally is 'apt-get update', but nor even from the graphical app worked.
[12:07] <lcb> I should correct "waiting for linux headers" to  "waiting for headers". different matter...
[12:12] <gnomie> folk tend to forget unity as well as gnome3 have been rewritten from the ground up and mashed together into what is ubuntu 11.10. both of which are still under heavy development. it shouldnt be surprising this 'beta is less polished than in previous versions'
[12:16] <kjeldahl> Looks like a partial upgrade (full one failed due to diskspace issues with the ramdisk I guess) and retrying the installer manages to get past the "installed crashed" issue.
[12:19] <bullgard4> The situation which you describe most often resluts from a transitory inconsistent state of your repository. This sometimes happens even in the 'main' repository.  All I can advise is that you try updating and downloading a few hours later again.
[12:20] <bullgard4> lcb: The situation which you describe most often resluts from a transitory inconsistent state of your repository. This sometimes happens even in the 'main' repository.  All I can advise is that you try updating and downloading a few hours later again.
[12:21] <bullgard4> lcb: Please read what <gnomie> has written 9 minutes ago.
[12:29] <lcb> bullgard4, " transitory inconsistent state of *repository" are for seconds, minutes, not hours, as in this case 12. As per what gnomie wrote, I'm not using unity nor gnome. For the rest you wrote... common sense
[12:30] <bullgard4> lcb: I myself have experienced " transitory inconsistent state of *repository" for hours. The maximum was more than 2 days.
[12:31] <lcb> as yourself probably experience at this time someone who is not complaining for anything, only looking for a way to solve this, besides, for common sense matters i'ld use #ubuntu or #newbees
[12:36] <necreo> is it normal for the installer to crash? :/
[12:36] <necreo> where can I check what went wrong
[12:36] <necreo> it fails at the checking packages to remove step
[12:37] <Pretto> Today's update remove unity, and is not able to install it again, it complains about packages dependencies
[12:37] <Pretto> does anyone faced that too?
[12:37] <necreo> maybe thats why my install fails then
[12:37] <necreo> I enabled updates while installing
[12:38] <gnomie> lcb: it is useful to specify which DE you're on when reporting or commenting. then again, kubuntu [at the moment] is not the first thing i think about when i read the screen here. furthermore, there is quite a lot of new things in development for kde as well ...
[12:38] <kjeldahl> necreo: I got around by doing an upgrade before starting the installer. It will fail on out of diskspace, but seems to get enough updates in for the installer to run successfully.
[12:38] <necreo> ah
[12:38] <necreo> so an apt-get update and upgrade before starting installer?
[12:39] <kjeldahl> Yes.
[12:39] <necreo> thanks, will let you know :)
[12:39] <kjeldahl> gl!
[12:40] <bullgard4> necreo: It is not normal. But my experience is that Ubuntu installers crash more often than other Ubuntu programs. Hopefully the installer wrote a log in /var/log/installer .
[12:41] <necreo> will see in 10min
[12:41] <necreo> after it installed its updates
[12:44] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:44] <gnomie> i guess he wasn't on kubuntu either
[12:44]  * gnomie sighs
[12:45] <gnomie> too many questions..
[12:45]  * gnomie ponders
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> necreo: or just: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install ubiquity
[12:55] <necreo> that one crashed ActionParsnip
[12:55] <ActionParsnip> strange
[12:55] <necreo> I got 2 popups each one telling me it crashed
[12:55] <necreo> update is almost complete
[12:55] <necreo> will retry
[12:55] <ActionParsnip> necreo: was the ISO tested as ok?
[12:56] <necreo> yea iso is fine
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> necreo: oh, that'll be why then ;)
[12:56] <necreo> it didnt even burn it
[12:56] <necreo> on a usb stick
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> ISO still needs verifying before putting on USB
[12:56] <necreo> s/it/I/ , yes it verified alright
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> coolio
[12:56] <necreo> just saying there wont be burn error
[12:56] <necreo> s
[12:57] <ActionParsnip> oh definately. USB is also faster
[12:57] <necreo> and re-usable
[13:00] <mongy> I like to verify after being put on stick also
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> might make a pxe server, just for kicks
[13:04] <necreo> seems to work fine now, thanks Kjel
[13:13] <Pretto> any notice about the last update that removed unity and doesnt let you to reinstall unity again?
[13:14] <ActionParsnip> Pretto: remove as in uninstall?
[13:14] <Pretto> ActionParsnip: yes
[13:15] <ActionParsnip> Pretto: freaky, not seen that. What time (and time zone) did you update
[13:15] <Pretto> ActionParsnip: the update removed unity, I only get GNOME in lightdm, and when I try to install unity it complains about dependencies that will not be installed
[13:16] <Pretto> ActionParsnip: (GMT - 3:00), I updated about  40 minutes ago
[13:17] <ActionParsnip> Pretto: what is the dependency warning?
[13:17] <ActionParsnip> Pretto: ahh, last I updated was 23:00 GMT
[13:18] <Pretto> ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/685913/
[13:20] <ActionParsnip> Pretto: found this:http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/packages/show/324212
[13:20] <ActionParsnip> Pretto: http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/ppa/ubuntu-desktop_ppa
[13:22] <Pretto> ActionParsnip: I think the problem must be fixed from the repos
[13:22] <ActionParsnip> Pretto: nice
[13:24] <Pretto> ActionParsnip: I am  just waiting to the next update, from now I have no decoration, nor unity
[13:26] <ActionParsnip> Pretto: i'm sure it will resolve, have bugs been reported
[14:24] <gekker> hi all, have a problem with oneiric not rebooting unless I delete /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket
[14:26] <gekker> this is after I upgraded, works great on my other system
[14:26] <gekker> also, it hangs on shutdown from the UI, or restart
[14:31] <escott> now that we are out of "Beta UI" and into the Quality portion of the release schedule is it unreasonable to expect that the daily updates won't break gnome-shell
[14:45] <mirandaim> does unity display gnome menus (.desktop files) that have 32x32 .png icons?
[14:46] <mirandaim> and are they picked from /usr/share/applications
[14:55] <gnomie> webupd8 update-indicator works but it does not integrate with update-manager, it uses apt instead  :-/  there is even a typo in its About note
[14:55]  * gnomie chuckles a bit
[14:57] <gnomie> oh well. at least i get updates notifications nau
[14:57] <gnomie> not that i want to update today after all the breakage anyway
[15:02] <gnomie> and i mean, visually; if i didn't manually check power/settings button [is there even proper name for it?] i wouldnt know if there were updates. it actually reported 'new updates available' AFTER i manually checked.
[15:02]  * gnomie shakes head
[15:08] <gnomie> there was also a crash while adding a ppa via software-sources. apport couldn't collect any info on it though.
[15:10] <gnomie> i did get to add the ppa in question but it complained the key was borked. so i removed it and added it via terminal, no issues..
[15:29] <Saamm> Is this possible to map tab key for quickly cycling between lenses in dash menu?
[15:36] <drehdz> has anyone tried the proprietary ATI drivers yet?
[15:38] <rumpe1> drehdz, i try to resist :)
[15:38] <msiemon> Hello I have a strange issue when I upgraded to 11.10 b1
[15:38] <msiemon> I no longer have a power button in the upper right hand corner
[15:38] <rumpe1> msiemon, it's beta, strange is normal
[15:39] <rumpe1> msiemon, file a bug-report
[15:39] <msiemon> rumpel: yeah but I don't expect missing functionality
[15:39] <msiemon> rumpel: Ok how do I do that? (noob)
[15:40] <rumpe1> msiemon, it's a beta-version: the remaining time till release is mainly for bug-fixes afaik
[15:40] <drehdz> I tried them 2 days ago and was left with an unbootable system, but I really want that acceleration
[15:41] <msiemon> rumpel: Is there a report bug button somewhere?
[15:41] <rumpe1> msiemon, you could first check launchpad, if your bug is already registered
[15:42] <rumpe1> msiemon, maybe there's also a workaround mentioned
[15:43] <msiemon> rumpel:  I poked around in there a little bit and of course used the best friend google search have found no results so far
[15:43] <msiemon> I'll look around a bit more
[15:44] <rumpe1> msiemon, you know some workarounds?
[15:45] <Jcook_5xData> I update today one thing that scared was it removed the package Unity & libunity-core.**. I try to reinstall unity package but I receive this message. http://pastebin.com/vF8F0MTu
[15:45] <msiemon> rumpel:  Is there some command that one could issue to reset the top panel to defaults
[15:45] <rumpe1> msiemon, unity? gnome-fallback? gnome-shell? xfce?...
[15:46] <gnomie> msiemon: try: unity --reset
[15:46] <msiemon> rumpel:  Thankfully I didn't upgrade me actual 11.04 laptop.  The problem lies in a virtualbox virtual machine upgraded from 11.04
[15:46] <rumpe1> msiemon, for gnome maybe "gconftool – -recursive-unset /apps/panel"
[15:46] <msiemon> gnomie:  I'll try unity --reset now
[15:48] <Jcook_5xData> msiemon, if all else fail you can reset back to default  deleting .config/compiz-1 .cache/compizconfig-1 .cache/unity and .compiz-1
[15:49] <gnomie> msiemon: remember to log out/in for changes to take effect
[15:49] <msiemon> rumpel:  I'm using the default unity sorry I didn't mention that sooner
[15:50] <rumpe1> "Sorry, the program gtk-logout-helper" closed unexpectedly"  is popping up about every two minutes... maybe i have some similar bug (gnome-fallback)
[15:50] <msiemon> I actually like unity am excited about most of the changes to this version
[15:51] <msiemon> Is there an easy way to save the contents of this IRC page?
[15:51] <rumpe1> unity is not bad, gnome-shell either ... but i really like the new lightdm login manager :)
[15:51] <Pici> !logs | msiemon
[15:51] <Jcook_5xData> Yea it take some getting use to I really like gnome 3 but they change are very welcome
[15:53] <Jcook_5xData> out of gnome3 & unity it the only one to I can play starcraft2 with without some funky scrolling problem
[15:53] <msiemon> jcook:  I loaded gnome 3 onto my 11.04 virtualbox machine and hosed it.  I have also tried both boot disks in a virtualbox and on real hardware but all have been terribly unstable
[15:53] <rumpe1> it took me two days to install the beta :D
[15:54] <Jcook_5xData> msiemon, there was a problem with VB and gnome 3 I think they fixed it now you may want to check your vrs
[15:55] <msiemon> rumpel:  I had this 11.04 virtualbox that I don't use anymore since I was able to load it on physical hardware just issued the upgrade and it worked fine other then no power button on panel.
[15:56] <msiemon> I do find it a bit weird getting used to the Ubuntu button not being in the top left corner though
[15:57] <rumpe1> msiemon, i never really liked the apt-get dist-upgrade ... you never know, if the package-manager or the new version causes future trouble
[15:58] <msiemon> rumpel:  Yeah I know at least when it comes to cough windows cough I will never perform an upgrade.  I always fresh install I have had less trouble upgrading Ubuntu
[15:59] <rumpe1> msiemon, i used it two times and both times there were some minor bugs like your problem, which disappeared, when i reinstalled fresh.
[16:00] <msiemon> rumpel:  Yeah I was just being lazy didn't want to create a new virtual machine just for the Beta.  Although maybe I will at this point although I'll try resetting the compiz file before I go that far
[16:01] <rumpe1> msiemon, why not add a new vm with a fresh install to compare them? Shouldn't take long or do you have some special setting?
[16:02] <msiemon> rumpel:  No it doesn't take that long at all usually use default settings.  Like I said lazy  : * )
[16:03] <msiemon> rumpel: That would be a good ideal I'll probably try that since I already downloaded the full installer for the beta.
[16:04] <bobweaver> is there anyone awake
[16:04] <ikonia> yes
[16:04] <bobweaver> lol
[16:05] <ikonia> I've told you what to do to resolve it
[16:05] <bobweaver> mount live dvd ?
[16:05] <ikonia> put your network configuration in /etc/network/interfaces, this will get your machine back on the network
[16:05] <ikonia> from that point you can use the package manager to install whatever you removed
[16:06] <bobweaver> soi I just put eth0 and wlan0 back in
[16:06] <bobweaver> then a ifconfig eth0 up  ?
[16:06] <ikonia> I'd just use eth0 on a wired connection (easier) as a temporary fix
[16:06] <ikonia> then once you've installed the missing packages, remove it, and go back to using network manager
[16:06] <bobweaver> how to install with no network ?
[16:07] <bobweaver> sorry never done this
[16:07] <ikonia> you configure the network, as I've just told you
[16:07] <bobweaver> cool
[16:07] <ikonia> that gives you network and allows you to install
[16:07] <bobweaver> I will let you know how it works out
[16:08] <bobweaver> realy v.cool
[16:08] <bobweaver> I am all bunent out been up working for 40 + hrs
[16:15] <bobweaver> ikonia: I add eth0 and did a sudo ifconfig up still nothign
[16:15] <bobweaver> ifconfig sees it
[16:15] <ikonia> that's not how you use that file.
[16:15] <bobweaver> thanks
[16:16] <ikonia> bobweaver: there is a guide on the wiki on how to setup networking without network manager
[16:16] <bobweaver> but I still have no net
[16:16] <bobweaver> I am on  phone
[16:17] <ikonia> really, it says you're using quassel
[16:18] <ikonia> what phone has a quassel client ?
[16:18] <IdleOne> quassel has a mobile client
[16:18] <IdleOne> iirc
[16:19] <ikonia> on which phones (I want it)
[16:19] <IdleOne> not sure
[16:19] <IdleOne> check out the site
[16:21] <IdleOne> ikonia: android
[16:21] <ikonia> bobweaver: you can just do ifconfig eth0 address 192.168.24.10 netmask 255.255.255.0
[16:21] <ikonia> bobweaver: replacing the correct ip details
[16:21] <ikonia> then ifconfig eth0 ip
[16:22] <bobweaver> thanks
[16:22] <ikonia> if you need to add a route, route add default 192.168.24.1
[16:22] <ikonia> again replacing with the correct ip details
[16:22] <ikonia> no point in me giving you an example file as you won't be able to read it on your phone
[16:22] <IdleOne> QuasselDroid
[16:22] <IdleOne> from my quick googles
[16:23] <bobweaver> IdleOne: you use google hack for that ?
[16:23] <IdleOne> no idea
[16:24] <bobweaver> inurl:wiki siteubuntu.com text:how to connect to internet with no network manager
[16:25] <bobweaver> that is what I look up to find nothing
[16:25] <bobweaver> inurl:wiki site:ubuntu.com text:how to connect to internet with no network manager
[16:25] <ikonia> bobweaver: just do what I gave you, that should work
[16:26] <ikonia> bobweaver: or try ifconfig eth0 192.168.24.10 netmask 255.255.255.0
[16:26] <ikonia> depends on your ifconfig version, I'm sure ubuntu uses a later version
[16:26] <ikonia> replace the ip information with your own.
[16:28] <bobweaver> I need to look at interface file again
[16:28] <ikonia> why ?
[16:28] <ikonia> the command I've given you doesn't need it
[16:28] <bobweaver> I get error
[16:29] <bobweaver>  ifconfig eth0 192.168.24.10 netmask 255.255.255.0  <- is good
[16:29] <bobweaver> with my ip
[16:29] <bobweaver> but then a sudo ifup eth0  I get error
[16:29] <bobweaver> that it cant read interface file
[16:29] <bobweaver> I must have out the eth0 in the wrong place
[16:30] <ikonia> bobweaver: I didn't say do ifup
[16:30] <ikonia> bobweaver: I said do "ifconfig eth0 up"
[16:30] <bobweaver> ohh
[16:31] <bobweaver> still nothing
[16:31] <ikonia> what do you mean, still nothing ?
[16:31] <bobweaver> this all started when I installed arping
[16:32] <ikonia> what are you expecting to happen
[16:32] <bobweaver> I try to install still getting 404
[16:32] <ikonia> of course you do
[16:32] <ikonia> you've not setup the gateway, or the name servers yet
[16:32] <blizzow> Is anyone else having issues with super long logins on oneiric?  I can wait 5-10 minutes before I get to a working desktop.
[16:33] <bobweaver> ok this is what I have done thanks for the help also :)
[16:33] <ikonia> what do you mean, shit is what you've done ?
[16:33] <bobweaver> 1 put eth0 in /etc/network/interfaces
[16:34] <ikonia> I told you not to do this
[16:34] <Pici> ikonia: mind the language please. :/
[16:34] <ikonia> ?
[16:34] <ikonia> whoaaa
[16:34] <bobweaver> so take eth0 out of etc/network /interfaces
[16:34] <ikonia> I didn't type that
[16:34] <ikonia> I have no idea how that happened, apologies
[16:35] <bobweaver> ok it is out
[16:35] <blizzow> ikonia must be from #solaris :)
[16:35] <ikonia> I may have hit my right mouse button, I am in solairs and that is hlighted at th emoment
[16:35] <ikonia> solaris even
[16:36] <bobweaver> all that is in there is <auto lo iface lo inet loopback >
[16:36] <BluesKaj> bobweaver, why not try this tutorial ,  http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/setting-up-an-network-interfaces-file/
[16:36] <ikonia> bobweaver: I've tol dyou how to bring the interface up
[16:36] <ikonia> BluesKaj: he's on a phone and can't read urls
[16:36] <BluesKaj> bummer
[16:37] <BluesKaj> ok bobweaver ., nevermind :)
[16:37] <atrus`> i'm reliably getting a "BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>" "deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ oneiric restricted main multiverse universe". google led to some launchpad bugs which didn't seem to help. should i be concerned?
[16:38] <atrus`> (i'm running natty, but rebuilding some oneric packages)
[16:38] <ikonia> atrus`: looks like your keys are different
[16:38] <jtaylor> try a different mirror
[16:39] <gnomie> try the terminal.. software-sources already glitched out on me today
[16:39] <atrus`> this is on the terminal, with apt-get update
[16:39] <blizzow> ikonia: that's hilarious.  I didn't even look to see what rooms you were in.
[16:39] <atrus`> i'd think us.archive.ubuntu.com would be the definitive mirror to try...
[16:39] <ikonia> blizzow: the last line, I was following that conversation
[16:40] <jtaylor> or wait until the next update
[16:40] <atrus`> i've been getting this for a couple weeks
[16:40] <jtaylor> are you using a proxy?
[16:41] <bobweaver> ok saved file then  sudo ifconfig etho <default gateway> netmask <netmask#> then sudo ifconfig eth0 up
[16:41] <bobweaver> what is next
[16:41] <ikonia> bobweaver: no
[16:41] <ikonia> bobweaver: not default gateway, ip address
[16:42] <bobweaver> oh so I ok
[16:42] <bobweaver>  ok  * :)
[16:43] <bobweaver> still 404
[16:43] <ikonia> bobweaver: come on
[16:43] <ikonia> I just told you it won't work because you've not setup a gateway or DNS yet
[16:43] <ikonia> I can't be bothered with this, if you're not going to listen I'll help someone else
[16:44] <bobweaver> i am listening what is next
[16:45] <bobweaver> I am sorry if it does not seem like it i have been up for over 40 hrs
[16:45] <bobweaver> I am trying my hardest :)
[16:46] <atrus`> jtaylor: there's a transparent one, but it's the same as the one for natty, which isn't complaining
[16:47] <atrus`> routing around the proxy doesn't help.
[16:48] <gnomie> bobweaver: sounds like you need a break. let it sit for a while. you might realize what you need to do after a good nap
[16:48] <bobweaver> gnomie: I cant dead line
[16:49] <bobweaver> I have coffee :)
[16:49] <gnomie> suit yourself then
[16:49] <bobweaver> gnomie:  i should have thought about that before  :)
[16:50] <jtaylor> the signature on that mirror is fine, either you have something old cached or someone is messing with your connection
[16:50] <bobweaver> it is great advice thou
[16:50] <gnomie> bobweaver: i call it the 'eureka syndrome'
[16:51] <atrus`> jtaylor: switching to another mirror does help, which makes me think it's a cache issue on this machine.
[16:51] <bobweaver> \0/ <- eureka  is comming
[16:55] <atrus`> yeah, the launchpad bugs suggest clearing some apt-related stuff out of /var/, but i haven't stumbled on the right one yet.
[17:01] <bobweaver> Eureka \o/
[17:01] <Jcook_5xData> I upgrade today one thing that scared me was it removed the package Unity & libunity-core.**. I try to reinstall unity package but I receive this message. http://pastebin.com/vF8F0MTu
[17:01] <bobweaver> sudo ifconfig eth0 up then ifconfig dhclient eth0
[17:02] <ikonia> Jcook_5xData: did the upgrade work properly ?
[17:02] <ikonia> Jcook_5xData: as in did it complete and then this is something you're doing, or is this part of the upgrade
[17:03] <Jcook_5xData> ikonia, it did complete correctly I mean it do bomb or give any warnings
[17:04] <ikonia> Jcook_5xData: could you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list please
[17:04] <Jcook_5xData> ikonia, I not sure it some thing to worry about but unity would seem to a important package
[17:04] <Jcook_5xData> sure
[17:05] <Jcook_5xData> ikonia, http://pastebin.com/MDeAZx36
[17:06] <ikonia> Jcook_5xData: well that all looks good
[17:06] <ikonia> Jcook_5xData: do you have any ppa's or 3rd party repos installed ?
[17:07] <h00k> Hey, unity killed itself for me.
[17:07] <h00k> reinstalled.
[17:08] <h00k> er, by killed, I meant removed.
[17:08] <ikonia> did it really ?
[17:08] <h00k> It really did :(
[17:08] <Pici> Thats why you should look at what your upgrades are doing before doing it.
[17:09] <h00k> It's true, glad I caught it ;)
[17:09] <h00k> and autoremoves, too.
[17:09] <Jcook_5xData> ikonia, not now
[17:09] <ikonia> Jcook_5xData: did you have before the upgrade ?
[17:10] <ikonia> Jcook_5xData: can you actually install libunity-core-4.0-4 package ?
[17:10] <ikonia> Jcook_5xData: (do a sudo apt-get update) before doing anything else
[17:11] <gnomie> h00k: yer the second one coming up with that .. o.0
[17:12] <h00k> gnomie: I'm pretty cool.
[17:12]  * gnomie holds back updating for today
[17:12]  * h00k does more updates
[17:12] <gnomie> you sure need them
[17:13] <h00k> Yeah, it's all good now. It was a super-easy fix.
[17:13] <bobweaver> I have a different question if I install wicd it asks what usr what to be assed to the netdev group me and postgres are listed should I add  both? what is netdav ?
[17:14] <Jcook_5xData> sudo apt-get upgrade run fine - no updates - I had ppa for icons that it I think - if I try to install libunity-core it said it needs libnux-1.0-0 but it installed
[17:14] <ikonia> Jcook_5xData: what happens if you try to install libnux-1.0-0
[17:16] <Jcook_5xData> libnux-1.0-0 is already the newest version.
[17:16] <ikonia> that's odd, so I wonder why that dependencies going to be met
[17:16] <avinashhm> Hi friends, i am trying to install 'wine' on ubuntu 10.10 .. its failing with some wicked errors .. seems like not able to fetch data .. more logs @ http://paste.ubuntu.com/686030/ .. can some one pls help .. thanks
[17:18] <Jcook_5xData> The following packages have unmet dependencies:  libunity-core-4.0-4 : Depends: libnux-1.0-0 (< 1.6.2) but 1.8.0-0ubuntu1 is to be installed E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[17:18] <ikonia> avinashhm: this channel is for ubuntu 11.10 support discussion only
[17:18] <ikonia> avinashhm: please ask in #ubuntu
[17:19] <ikonia> Jcook_5xData: ahhh
[17:19] <ikonia> Jcook_5xData: it wants 1.62 or greater, do "dpkg -l | grep libnux-1.0-0" see what version you actually have
[17:19] <avinashhm> ikonia, ok .. thanks
[17:20] <Jcook_5xData> libnux-1.0-0                           1.8.0-0ubuntu1                                 Visual rendering toolkit for real-time applications - shared lib
[17:20] <kjeldahl> Anybody know how to get rid of the default window auto-raise?
[17:20] <kjeldahl> (on Oneiric beta..)
[17:20] <ikonia> Jcook_5xData: so thats greater than 1.6.2 so it should not be a problem
[17:21] <bobweaver> these are the three things that are bothering me about kubuntu 11.10 one I can use menu to shut down Have to do a sudo reboot. two I keep on getting D-Bus errors three It is 500xs more clear and clean real real good job on that part
[17:24] <bobweaver> Jcook_5xData: what happens when you install 2d ubity still get error ?
[17:24] <bobweaver> Jcook_5xData: what happens when you install 2d unity* still get error ?
[17:25] <bobweaver> sudo apt-get install unity2d
[17:25] <ikonia> how is that going to change this package conflict ?
[17:25] <bobweaver> I wonder if it is repo end or not
[17:25] <bobweaver> key
[17:25] <ikonia> repo end ?
[17:25] <ikonia> key ?
[17:25] <ikonia> there is no key error
[17:25] <ikonia> it's complaining that a package dependency is not met,
[17:25] <bobweaver> there is no key when using repo
[17:25] <ikonia> what are you talking about
[17:25] <ikonia> no key
[17:26] <bobweaver> when ever I get a new repo I have to get key to itt
[17:26] <ikonia> then you would get a key error saying "cannot find key" or words to that effect
[17:26] <ikonia> this error is saying a dependency is not met
[17:26] <Jcook_5xData> E: Unable to locate package unity2d
[17:27] <bobweaver> umm Oo
[17:27] <ikonia> Jcook_5xData: don't install stuff you don't need, it's a pointless test
[17:28] <bobweaver> lsb_release -a <- normal ?
[17:28] <ikonia> !info libnux-1.0-0
[17:28] <Jcook_5xData> ikonia, try :)
[17:28] <ikonia> Jcook_5xData: ahhh look
[17:28] <ikonia> Jcook_5xData: there is hte issue
[17:28] <ikonia> Jcook_5xData: the version from 11.10 should be 1.6
[17:28] <ikonia> you have 1.8 from somewhere
[17:29] <ikonia> Jcook_5xData: that must have been from one of the external/3rd party ones
[17:29] <ikonia> Jcook_5xData: can you remove that package without breaking anything ?
[17:29] <Jcook_5xData> you know wounder if it was pull down with gnome3
[17:29] <ikonia> gnome3....
[17:29] <ikonia> did you get gnome3 from an external place ?
[17:30] <h00k> Oh look, Empathy was uninstalled, too.
[17:30] <abbiya> ocelot user here and the recent partial upgrade removed the unity and i am left with unloadable gnome 3...OMG help..?
[17:31] <Jcook_5xData> nope just sudo apt-get install gnome-shell
[17:31] <ikonia> from where
[17:31] <ikonia> where did you get gnome-shell, what repo
[17:32] <Jcook_5xData> I remove unless it cached a old ppa for ubuntu repo
[17:32] <abbiya> jcoook..is it from gnome3 ppa
[17:32] <ikonia> Jcook_5xData: ok - so when I asked if you had used any PPA's and you said "yes, just for fonts" that was wrong
[17:32] <ikonia> the answer was "yes, I used the gnome3 PPA for 11.04"
[17:32] <Jcook_5xData> unway I did removed libnux and I was able to install unity
[17:32] <ikonia> there we go
[17:33] <ikonia> Jcook_5xData: in future, please try to think about the answer you give
[17:33] <ikonia> Jcook_5xData: it makes it easier
[17:34] <abbiya> will ocelot drop the support for unity ?
[17:34] <Jcook_5xData> yes and no I had them. I removed and purge them before the upgrade to 11.10. anyways Thank you for your help. I am glade I did not have to reinstall
[17:35] <jtaylor> abbiya: no, and be careful with partial upgrades, if they remove core components don't do them!
[17:35] <jtaylor> read the sticky thread in the ocelot forum for more info
[17:35] <abbiya> i lost the unity
[17:35] <abbiya> what to do
[17:36] <jtaylor> best bet at fixing it is waiting until the archive is conistent again and reinstall what was removed
[17:37] <visionofarun> Hi all, I did a dist upgrade to 11.10 beta (64 bit). I can't run Skype now. It says: skype: error while loading shared libraries: libXss.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[17:38] <Jcook_5xData> visionofarun, can you reinstall it
[17:39] <visionofarun> I tried. No luck. Same error. http://codepad.org/rjFYareD
[17:39] <visionofarun> Jcook_5xData: ^
[17:40] <visionofarun> Has the upgrade broken packages for anyone else?
[17:42] <jtaylor> visionofarun: enable multiarch and install 32 bit skype
[17:42] <visionofarun> jtaylor: thanks, let me try that.
[17:42] <Jcook_5xData> can you install libxss 'sudo apt-get install libxss'
[17:43] <jtaylor> installing the 32 bit version will pull xss
[17:43] <jtaylor> skype:i386
[17:47] <visionofarun> I did this"echo foreign-architecture i386 | sudo tee /etc/dpkg/dpkg.cfg.d/multiarch" and tried installing skype. No luck. Am i missing something?
[17:47] <jtaylor> have yo updated?
[17:48] <visionofarun> Yeah.
[17:48] <visionofarun> you mean, after tee'ing?
[17:48] <jtaylor> skype from the natty partner repository?
[17:48] <visionofarun> I din.t
[17:49] <jtaylor> ?
[17:50] <visionofarun> I'm updating now.. in progress..
[17:56] <visionofarun> sudo apt-get install skype:i386
[17:56] <visionofarun> Package skype:i386 is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[17:56] <visionofarun> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source
[17:56] <jtaylor> from which source are you getting skype?
[17:56] <jtaylor> but it doesn't really matter you can also install the libraries manually
[17:57] <jtaylor> libxss1:i386 libqtcore4:i386 libqtgui4:i396 and libqtdbus:i386
[17:57] <visionofarun> Sure, let me try that.
[18:00] <visionofarun> ah, its gonna download more than 25 MB.. that's too much for my slow network..
[18:00] <visionofarun> I guess, I'll give it a try later..
[18:00] <visionofarun> Good bye skype, for now.
[18:01] <visionofarun> jtaylor: thanks for your help, buddy.
[18:03] <bullgard4> Can you confirm that Ubuntu Oneiric does not provide the Jitsi VoiP client.
[18:06] <gnomie> bullgard4: software center came up black for 'jitsi' here
[18:06] <gnomie> am on 64bit, if it matters
[18:07] <bullgard4> gnomie: Thank you very much for your help.
[18:07] <gnomie> s/black/blank
[18:07] <gnomie> too much caffeine
[18:09] <ovidius> Hi. I updated from Natty to Oneric beta 1(64bit) on my notebook with AMD Turion and AMD Radeon HD 5470 and Radeon HD 4200. After to update fglrx driver didn't work anymore. I tried deinstalling and reinstalling it, but it didn't help.  Manual install of the driver from AMD's website didn't work either.  What should I try next?
[18:23] <BrandonBolton> Hello all, what is the deference between the install DVD and install CD?
[18:24] <jtaylor> more installed by default
[18:24] <milaz> Hi all!
[18:25] <BrandonBolton> jtaylor: Thank you.
[18:27] <milaz> In new Ubuntu Software Center, does anybody have active "Install" button?
[18:33] <ovidius> ovidius: Pointing myself at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer/+bug/827120 . In case anyone else overlooked it as well.
[18:33] <BluesKaj> bbl...need to takre a nap
[18:36] <BigWhale> dbus-daemon is jumping to 99% CPU usage and it might be related with Firefox, but I can't confirm it. Is there a log for dbus? Or something I could look into?
[18:37] <zonkers> do you guys think blue bubble will be supported for ubuntu?
[19:39] <AnAnt> jbicha: building
[19:58] <AnAnt> jbicha: perfect, it works
[20:02] <necreo> is it known that ccsm is broken?
[20:03] <necreo> I cant change any setting and it keeps saying the program crashed
[20:08] <FernandoMiguel> evening
[20:09] <jbicha> AnAnt: oh hi, I didn't recognize your irc nick
[20:10] <FernandoMiguel> that's what she said
[20:10] <AnAnt> jbicha: uploaded
[20:10] <necreo> is ccsm broken in the beta?
[20:11] <FernandoMiguel> necreo: wfm
[20:12] <necreo> ah works for me
[20:12] <necreo> hmm
[20:12] <necreo> did you update lately?
[20:15] <FernandoMiguel> yesterday
[20:15] <FernandoMiguel> doing upgrades now
[20:17] <zonkers> wow, did updates and unity is gone
[20:17] <necreo> ah
[20:18] <necreo> some hours ago someone else experienced that
[20:18] <zonkers> now what?
[20:18] <zonkers> i was hoping for better
[20:18] <necreo> Pretto > ActionParsnip: I am  just waiting to the next update, from now I have no decoration, nor unity
[20:18] <kjeldahl> Maybe just try "apt-get install unity" again? That solved it for me after one failed upgrade.
[20:18] <necreo> ah kjeldahl, thanks it worked
[20:19] <necreo> if only I could set up compiz, I miss some features :(
[20:19] <kjeldahl> Cool. What about "apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager; ccsm"?
[20:20] <robin0800> necreo, you could try confity
[20:21] <zonkers> kjeldahl:  nope still failed to load ubuntu
[20:21] <necreo> kjeldahl: I did that, that thing crashes
[20:21] <necreo> confity? something new?
[20:22] <kjeldahl> Yes, I'm getting quite a few crashes as well. But with some nudging most things work eventually...
[20:23] <zonkers> i'm waiting until the next beta at this point
[20:23] <necreo> hmm
[20:36] <AnAnt> jbicha: do you know about developing gnome-shell extensions ?
[20:48] <jbicha> AnAnt: not much, you can look around the gnoem-shell-extensions git directory
[20:48] <AnAnt> ok
[20:49] <jbicha> and there's supposed to be a web frontend coming online soon so extensions won't need to be packaged, any user can just download the ones they want
[20:49] <jbicha> AnAnt: sabily will still use Unity, right?
[20:50] <AnAnt> jbicha: well, many wanted to use Gnome shell in the previous cycle. So probably that's what will be done this cycle
[20:51] <jbicha> hmm, you might have the first Oneiric GNOME Shell remix then which might get you a few extra users
[21:05] <AnAnt> I find gnome-shell faster & more stable that unity
[21:09] <mongy> if only it were any good. :(
[21:09] <mongy> xfce all the way baby
[21:44] <necreo> I like unity, way better than before for me
[21:44] <necreo> btw isnt this default background the same as in 10.10?
[21:45] <drehdz> I have the strangest issue.  Sometimes for no reason i cannot get focus of a window with the mouse.  It's like the window isnt even there, I will grab icons behind it instead.  However i can get focus using the launcher on the left and work in the window, but I cannot close it or move it anymore.  anyone else?
[21:50] <jbicha> necreo: no, but it's intentionally similar
[21:50] <necreo> why's that?
[21:58] <jbicha> necreo: bug 833990
[22:01] <rojanu> in my home folder there files like "????????? ? ? ? ?                ? exercize 1.csv" and I can't change owner nor permissions
[22:01] <rojanu> is this a bug?
[22:01] <ikonia> where did they come from ?
[22:02] <rojanu> this files were in my home folder already
[22:04] <ikonia> i can't see it as a bug, is it possible they are recovered files from an earlier date
[22:04] <ikonia> or something your forgot to format the partition with /home on
[22:05] <rojanu> ikonia: this aren't recovered files.
[22:05] <rojanu> for example: .ssh folder is owned by my but files within are owned by ?
[22:05] <ikonia> if it where a bug I'd expect it to be on a lot more installs, and looking at the names on them they look like recovered files
[22:08] <rojanu> OK, by changing permissions to 777 and then changing owner seems to be working
[22:18] <necreo> does banshee feel crashy to anyone else?
[22:18] <necreo> often stops responding
[22:20] <kjeldahl> Yes, I've experienced that as well.
[22:30] <kjeldahl> Unfortunately, the old Rhytmbox isn't brilliant either...
[22:31] <FernandoMiguel> freaking X always freezing :\
[22:31] <FernandoMiguel> have I told you how this is the worse cycle EVAR??
[22:32] <FernandoMiguel> anyone read that post from segphault about rolling Ubuntu ?
[22:37] <ikonia> FernandoMiguel: no-one who cares about your rants
[22:37] <ikonia> you're using a development version, be prepared for it to break
[22:38] <FernandoMiguel> ikonia: I am! but it still gets me annoyed
[22:38] <ikonia> then keep it to yourself
[22:39] <FernandoMiguel> isn't the point of this # do discuss current state and future of devel Ubuntu?
[22:39] <FernandoMiguel> I am stating the obvious... it's no where good
[22:39] <ikonia> discuss yes, ranting no
[22:42] <BigWhale> If I had a nickel every time... well, I'd have a lot of nickels!
[22:43] <BigWhale> what happens if I kill dbus-daemon?
[22:47] <BrandonBolton> Hello, I am having trouble making a bootable USB with the 11.10 beta 1 image. I am using gparted to format the drive to FAT32 and create the disk through unetbootin. Am I doing something wrong? That is how I always have made a bootable USB.
[22:47] <BigWhale> ok nothing good happens if I restart dbus... I should have known that :>
[22:48] <kjeldahl> BrandonBolton: What about usb-creator-gtk or similar?
[22:48] <BrandonBolton> kjeldahl: I have not tried that, but I will format it again and see if it works.
[22:49] <kjeldahl> BrandonBolton: No need to; it does everything needed...
[23:10] <ubuntuweeeeee__> ikonia, eat shat and die beech
[23:10] <ubuntuweeeeee__> ikonia, sucks gaaay deeek