[00:06] <mhall119> jcastro: that's what we did with summit last UDS
[00:06] <mhall119> only the other way around
[00:46]  * pleia2 thinks nigelb actually ended up with about 2 years of work following UDS :)
[00:46] <mhall119> and he's still got 2 years worth, because he's been spending all his time on Launchpad and Mozilla
[00:47] <pleia2> haha
[00:47]  * akgraner thinks everyone ends up with 2 years of work after every UDS :-P
[00:47] <mhall119> just the over-achievers
[00:48] <mhall119> the rest of us only the 18 months
[00:48] <akgraner> haha
[00:48] <akgraner> mhall119, slacker
[00:48] <mhall119> damn right
[00:49] <akgraner> mhall119,  - Remember I am just a fruit disguised as a vegetable :-P
[00:50] <Pendulum> I was about to say that I think I'm still working on stuff from UDS a year ago
[00:50] <mhall119> I think you're taking the wrong meaning from your own analogy
[00:50] <Pendulum> and then I realised I wasn't even joking and I _am_ still working on stuff from UDS a year ago :(
[00:50] <mhall119> obviously the tomato was always supposed to be a vegetable, that's what it likes to be, that's what it fits in with, it can't help that it was born a fruit
[00:50] <akgraner> mhall119,  yeah I am quoting me out of context but I can do that...it's my quote :-P
[00:51] <akgraner> Pendulum, I am so glad it's not just me :-)
[00:51] <mhall119> the geek is the real you
[00:51] <akgraner> mhall119, shhhhhh - I am not ready to announce that yet...
[00:51] <mhall119> man, you're like 2 years too late for that
[00:52] <akgraner> dang it...
[00:52] <Pendulum> akgraner: I should probably specify I mean Brussels
[00:52] <mhall119> that cat's been  out of the bottle for a while now
[00:52] <akgraner> Pendulum, heck the leadership stuff has been on my list since Dallas - I am glad David is taking the doc and running with it
[00:53] <Pendulum> haha
[00:53] <Pendulum> I forgot about that
[00:53] <akgraner> Pendulum, yeah  - I did too...:-P
[00:53] <Pendulum> I don't think I have anything from Dallas still, other than helping with User Days
[00:53] <Pendulum> but that's a kinda long-term thing anyway
[00:54] <akgraner> what my forgetfulness - :-)
[00:54] <akgraner> mhall119, got your paper worked out now?
[00:55] <Pendulum> akgraner: UUD. For once not making a joke about you :P
[00:55] <akgraner> Pendulum, I'm just a sensitive being ya know, hand to make sure...yeah I know - UUD should be long term...
[00:56] <akgraner> s/hand/had
[00:56] <mhall119> akgraner: i have an outline
[00:57] <akgraner> mhall119, sweet!
[00:57] <mhall119> i'll be working on the first draft tonight
[00:57] <Pendulum> akgraner: would be counterproductive to offend your delicate Southern sensibilities when I'm asking for your help :)
[00:57] <jcastro> no way that's the best part!
[00:57] <jcastro> y'all!
[00:58] <akgraner> jcastro, Bless your heart!  No seriously I mean it...:-)
[00:58] <mhall119> shaddup you
[00:59] <mhall119> jcastro: there's a 6 month probationary period before you're allowed to start using drawl
[00:59] <jcastro> jill referred to it as a "pop" at work
[00:59] <jcastro> and they corrected her and told her it was a coke
[00:59] <jcastro> even though it was a pepsi
[00:59] <akgraner> everything is coke in the south...
[00:59] <jcastro> I told her to lash out and stomp out this grave injustice
[00:59] <mhall119> yup, any carbonated drink is a coke
[01:00] <mhall119> even clear ones
[01:00] <akgraner> pepsi - blasphemy ...
[01:02] <Pendulum> akgraner: what about those of us who don't live in the South, but were overexposed to "y'all" so say it anyway?
[01:03] <akgraner> Pendulum, that is just a beautiful thing!
[01:03] <akgraner> and music to my ears
[01:04] <Pendulum> akgraner: did I tell you about the girl I went to high school with who in the course of a term got me saying "y'all" just because we had a class together and she was saying it all the time?
[01:04] <akgraner> everyone should use y'all and be as sweet as a georgia peach but as poison as the pit :-)
[01:05] <akgraner> ok I don't mean that :-) but I wanted to use the saying...
[01:05] <mhall119> Pendulum: we call that "contaminated"
[01:06] <akgraner> mhall119, I was thinking "contagious"...
[01:07] <Pendulum> so that girl either poisoned me or gave me a virus?
[01:07] <Pendulum> Can I get rebooted please? :P
[01:08] <akgraner> hahaha
[01:08] <Pendulum> well if there's a virus in the system, it only makes sense ;)
[01:09]  * mhall119 needs inspiration
[01:09] <mhall119> Pendulum: this ain't some jersey user-space accent
[01:09] <mhall119> the south roots you
[01:10] <mhall119> you're pwned
[01:11] <akgraner> mhall119, Bro' Dave used to say - Everything is South of Canada :-)
[01:12] <mhall119> cept Russia
[01:12] <mhall119> and santa
[01:12] <Pendulum> and polar bears
[01:13] <akgraner> he was referencing yankees frowning on southerns :-) and used that to tell that were Southerns too
[01:13] <akgraner> dang I can't spell you know what I mean
[01:13] <mhall119> I grew up in Miami, then when I was in middle school we move north and got into "the south"
[02:08] <mhall119> damn I'm loving U1
[02:08] <mhall119> akgraner: http://ubuntuone.com/1WdwMZgPBQcs64Qjqtvksx
[02:08] <mhall119> start of a draft of an essay
[02:53] <mhall119> damn, I'm not going to keep this under 5 pages
[04:04]  * jussi01_ hugs akgraner warmly!!!
[05:14] <dpm> morning all
[06:02] <ejat> morning dpm
[06:56] <dholbach> good morning
[06:58] <ejat> morning
[07:16] <dpm> morning dholbach
[07:16] <dpm> hey ejat
[07:16] <nigelb> *Yawn* Morning
[07:17]  * ejat hey back to dpm
[07:17] <ejat> :)
[07:20] <dpm> morning nigelb
[07:20] <nigelb> Sleeping at 5 am wasn't great :)
[07:20] <dholbach> hey dpm
[07:21] <nigelb> Hey dholbach :)
[07:22] <dholbach> hi nigelb
[08:00] <kim0> morning all
[08:16] <czajkowski> morninday
[08:16] <czajkowski> day of the RWC :d
[08:20] <popey> the what?
[08:24] <ejat> rugby world cup i guess :)
[08:26] <czajkowski> popey: I even did a blog post in its honour yesterday
[08:29]  * popey was of course trolling
[13:14] <coraxx> I think a more worked-out procedure in regards to people who wants to _learn_ how to contribute could be a good thing to develop in the Ubuntu Community. So more and more who have some knowledge of programming can contribute. AND also, so we can get people involved who have hardware that is unsupported...have them run software that can analyze it, for reverse-enginering.
[13:17] <dpm> nigelb, we've got an extra uadw session at 21:00 - would you mind updating the classroom calendar? the speaker's nick is donaldcarr_work
[13:19] <nigelb> dpm: sure
[13:20] <dpm> thanks nigelb :)
[13:21] <nigelb> Hrm, the logs look odd. Will fix when I get home. In the middle of work right now :)
[13:23] <czajkowski> http://youtu.be/bMltvlqEM54  :D
[15:29] <jcastro> nigelb: http://i.stack.imgur.com/N024Y.png
[15:29] <jcastro> someone made you an ad
[15:29] <nigelb> jcastro: woah.
[15:30] <nigelb> Neat!
[15:30] <nigelb> jcastro: Where'd you find it?
[15:30] <jcastro> htorque made it
[15:30] <jcastro> he's a legend
[15:30] <nigelb> That name sounds very familiar from somewhere.
[15:32] <nigelb> Ah, yes, #launchpad.
[15:32] <jcastro> he's unity bug hero #1
[15:32] <jcastro> or, top 5
[15:33] <nigelb> pleia2: ^^ :)
[15:33] <jcastro> I think om26er is #1
[15:33] <nigelb> om26er should be.
[15:33] <nigelb> He was a legend when I was in bug squad
[15:34] <nigelb> So, I'm thinking of buying the HTC Wildfire S or Samsung Galaxy Ace
[15:34] <nigelb> Anyone have any thoughts? :)
[15:34] <jcastro> I am waiting for the new nexus
[15:34] <jcastro> been saving pennies
[15:35] <nigelb> I've been saving up any Android phone.
[15:35] <jcastro> My plan is "every other nexus"
[15:35] <jcastro> I have the One, skipped the S
[15:36] <jcastro> plus it's android, so no matter how new the phone is the battery always only lasts one day
[15:36] <nigelb> heh
[15:36] <nigelb> The Nexus one is a bit out of my price range
[15:36] <jcastro> I was going to just give mine away
[15:36] <jcastro> you want it?
[15:36] <jcastro> the resale on used androids is so horrible
[15:37] <nigelb> How are you gonna get it to me? :)
[15:37] <jcastro> what, they don't have boxes and shipping in india?
[15:37] <nigelb> oh, well.
[15:37] <nigelb> I'll take it :D
[15:37] <jcastro> hah, I'll send you the awesome extended battery I got
[15:37] <jcastro> it turns the thing into a monster
[15:37] <nigelb> There's apparently a company which makes monster batteries for android.
[15:38] <jcastro> yep, I have one
[15:38] <nigelb> I helped organize an Android event in the city, so there was this session where people came out with rants about android
[15:38] <nigelb> And other people suggest solutions to the rants
[15:38] <jcastro> I get visibly angry when talking about android
[15:39] <nigelb> heh
[15:40] <nigelb> I still don't like that android doesn't always "just work"
[15:45] <jcastro> yeah
[15:45] <jcastro> the camera is the worse
[15:45] <jcastro> it crashes on me all the time for no reason
[15:46] <nigelb> Ouch
[15:46] <nigelb> A friend bought a Desire and it crashed on him every few hours.
[15:46] <nigelb> He eventually had to get it replaced.
[15:47] <nigelb> WHY can't Android vendors be better.
[15:48] <jcastro> the problem is people think android can fix vendors
[15:48] <jcastro> which is a nice dream
[15:48] <jcastro> but carriers and phone people will always screw you
[15:48] <jcastro> vanilla nexus ftw.
[15:48] <nigelb> Amen to that.
[15:48] <mhall119> that's why the iphone was such a hit
[15:48] <jcastro> a mid/low range android is as horrible as any other crap phone before android
[15:49] <mhall119> Apple was better at screwing over carriers than carriers were at screwing over vendors
[15:49] <nigelb> And, iPhone works out the box!
[15:49] <jcastro> the notable exception is the optimus from LG. I got one for jill, it was $200 (and that's the full price), and it's vanilla android + swype (which is awesome)
[15:49] <jcastro> it's like the perfect cheap phone
[15:49] <nigelb> If there's a problem Apply will just replace it for you.
[15:49] <nigelb> *Apple
[16:33] <dholbach> I'll call it a day - have a great weekend everyone!
[16:34] <Pendulum> dholbach: you too!
[16:34] <dholbach> bye :)
[17:00] <jcastro> hey jono
[17:00] <jono> hey jcastro
[17:00] <jcastro> no changes to track leads?
[17:00] <jcastro> I ask because I got the rooms
[17:00] <jcastro> and we have the track names
[17:00] <jono> jcastro, just figuring that out now
[17:01] <jcastro> there's nothing stopping us from starting scheduling like, right now if you want
[17:01] <jono> jcastro, indeed
[17:01] <jono> I don't think we need to quite yet
[17:01] <jcastro> ok lmk, I can send the mail whenever
[17:01] <jono> let me finalize the tracks first
[17:01]  * jcastro nods
[17:01] <jono> thanks, bro
[17:02] <nigelb> jcastro: srsly, start now!
[17:02] <nigelb> Oh, is it Blueprints time already?
[17:02] <jcastro> well, irregardless people have already started submitting blueprints
[17:02] <jcastro> someone started a few weeks ago
[17:02]  * popey larts jcastro 
[17:02] <nigelb> Good
[17:02] <jcastro> hi popey
[17:02] <nigelb> This way jono and other track leads gets more time to get more MPs
[17:03] <nigelb> s/MP/BP/
[17:03] <popey> thinking having irregardless on hilight isnt wise
[17:03] <jcastro> oh, sorry
[17:03] <nigelb> lol
[17:03] <jcastro> I butcher the queen's english
[17:03] <popey> Pip pip!
[17:03] <nigelb> jcastro: have you seen smbc lately/
[17:03] <nigelb> sorry, theoatmeal
[17:03] <nigelb> theoatmeal.com/comics/senior_year
[17:03] <nigelb> last one
[17:04] <jcastro> yeah
[17:04] <nigelb> gah
[17:04] <jcastro> I bought his book
[17:04] <nigelb> this is not what I meant
[17:04] <nigelb> second last
[17:05] <jcastro> popey: speaking about the queen's english, I was watching the Naked Gun and thought of you
[17:14] <akgraner> jcastro, week has been crazy for me :-) (ok so what else is new) but what still needs to be done for open week  - anything in particular you need me to do?
[17:15] <jcastro> just finding people really
[17:15] <nigelb> ooh
[17:15] <akgraner> ok
[17:15] <nigelb> I volunteered for that.
[17:15] <nigelb> jcastro: what kind of talks are you looking for?
[17:21] <jcastro> open week talks
[17:21] <jcastro> general usery thing
[17:21] <jcastro> er, things
[17:25] <mhall119> akgraner: did you see my start of an essay?
[17:29] <popey> jcastro: is there someone British in Naked Gun?
[17:29] <jcastro> yeah
[17:29] <jcastro> with the queen mostly
[17:30] <jcastro> and he's announcing his plan
[17:30] <jcastro> and he's like "... and although the idea of having a queen might be silly to us ..."
[17:30] <jcastro> cracks me off every time
[17:30] <jcastro> er, up
[17:30] <popey> :D
[17:30]  * mhall119 thinks you're cracked off
[17:30] <popey> ah yes
[17:31] <mhall119> jono: we have an RT in with IS to get some monitoring setup on the summit server, since we keep getting out of memory errors on it, is there any way you can escalate that?
[17:31] <mhall119> rt 17895
[17:42] <pleia2> jcastro: that user days badge rocks!
[17:43]  * pleia2 adds to "promoting" section of UUD wiki
[17:43] <jcastro> easy to modify too
[17:43] <jcastro> for next cycle you just swap out the middle
[17:45] <pleia2> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDays#Promoting :)
[19:00] <jcastro> hey nigelb
[19:00] <jcastro> or it might be mhall119 or cjohnston
[19:00] <nigelb> jcastro: whats up?
[19:00] <jcastro> can we run that script that populates the slots and days and all that stuff?
[19:01] <nigelb> initslots?
[19:01] <nigelb> yeah, go ahead
[19:01] <nigelb> mhall119: ^ get it done!
[19:01] <nigelb> Hrm, this nice. Only mhall119 has active access :D
[19:07] <mhall119> it's not me
[19:07] <mhall119> what are we talking about?
[19:08] <nigelb> mhall119: init-slots for summit
[19:08] <mhall119> wait, why am I doing this?
[19:08] <nigelb> because you have access?
[19:08] <mhall119> not a good reason
[19:08] <nigelb> because you're awesome and helpful and kind
[19:09] <nigelb> mhall119: ^
[19:09] <nigelb> if that helps :D
[19:36] <akgraner> jcastro, we need a badge for Open Week :-) (yeah I know we talked about it last cycle)
[19:36] <jcastro> http://i.stack.imgur.com/20zAI.png
[19:37] <akgraner> ok  - I mean logo as well :-) but that works too :-P
[19:37] <akgraner> how'd I miss that...:-/
[19:38] <jcastro> sure
[19:38] <jcastro> someone just needs to put the thing inside a bubble or something
[19:38] <jcastro> http://i.stack.imgur.com/EZJ8e.png
[19:38] <jcastro> this one is my favorite
[19:40] <mhall119> nigelb: flattery will get you nowhere
[19:41] <jcastro> summit. The only thing where people cheer when it's someone else's job to fix something
[19:41] <jcastro> "whew, I am glad I don't have access to that machine!"
[19:42] <pleia2> hehe
[19:42] <jcastro> we need taglines for this kind of stuff for the lp pages
[19:42] <jcastro> Summit - Proof that people who write init replacements shouldn't write calendar applications
[19:42] <jcastro> Summit - Because you hate yourself
[19:42] <jcastro> Summit - Because that whole open source things makes it better is a total lie.
[19:43] <nigelb> mhall119: :D
[19:43] <jcastro> j/k even with the memory thing it's still running way awesomer than it used to
[19:43] <nigelb> jcastro: Hey, we made it better in 6 months. Cheers to mhall119 and cjohnston :)
[19:43] <pleia2> nigelb: go to bed!
[19:43] <nigelb> My sleep is so messed up!
[19:44] <jcastro> post-beta insomnia!
[19:44] <nigelb> Its mostly sysadmin insomnia
[19:44] <nigelb> In other good news, 15 launchpad branches to-date now.
[19:44] <pleia2> lol sysadmin insomnia
[19:45] <nigelb> tis true!
[19:46] <AlanBell> it is always funny talking to the barely concious American sysadmins online at breakfast time
[19:46] <nigelb> Even funnier is talking to barely conscious Indian sysadmins after an all-nighter
[19:46] <pleia2> it's not funny being a barely concious American sysadmin who is online during AlanBell's breakfast time
[19:47] <pleia2> (hurricanes ftl)
[19:47] <nigelb> What is this mod_security and why does my CEO think its *awesome* and he needs it yesterday :/
[19:47] <pleia2> nigelb: it is actually awesome
[19:47] <nigelb> pleia2: It is? oh.
[19:48] <nigelb> Dammit. Now I'll end up reading about it for another hour.
[19:50] <jcastro> you know what is awesome and I've been reading about lately
[19:50] <jcastro> glusterfs
[19:52] <nigelb> jcastro: lol.
[19:52] <nigelb> Mozilla All-hands is on Monday.
[19:52] <nigelb> Guess what date most employees fly into US?
[19:53] <jcastro> sunday?
[19:53] <nigelb> 9/11
[19:53] <jcastro> oh
[19:53] <nigelb> Badly timed. That's going to be one sucky travel :)
[19:57] <jcastro> man I hope the airports don't get all nuts
[19:58] <jcastro> I hear soon we'll be able to keep our shoes on!
[19:59] <nigelb> :/
[20:12] <Pendulum> jcastro: the only good thing I can definitely say about summit is that it's the only place I've actually ever successfully submitted a patch ;-)
[20:12] <jcastro> heh
[20:12] <Pendulum> (so the only place code I've written exists to the public)
[20:12] <jcastro> http://www.amazon.com/o/ASIN/B003M2YT96?tag=adapas-20
[20:12] <jcastro> so I ordered a new camera with dual microphones for noise cancellation
[20:13] <akgraner> jcastro, sweet!
[20:13] <Pendulum> nice :)
[20:13] <nigelb> wow, nice
[20:13] <nigelb> btw, anyone has wireless mics they use with Ubuntu?
[20:13] <nigelb> I remember someone telling me about them
[20:15] <akgraner> I have wireless headset...but not stand alone mics
[20:15] <nigelb> akgraner: that works as well
[20:15] <akgraner> one sec I'll get you the link
[20:18] <jcastro> bleutooth ones work
[20:18] <akgraner> Logitech 68983 LOG981000068 - ClearChat PC Wireless Headset - http://www.amazon.com/LOG981000068-ClearChat-PC-Wireless-Headset/dp/B002U3JP3I
[20:19] <akgraner> I like the wireless ones b/c I can get up and walk around if I use the wired ones then I forget and that's not pretty...
[20:20] <nigelb> heh
[20:56] <nigelb> I suck at sleeping :/
[20:57] <jono> duanedesign, all set?
[20:57] <jono> Skype work?
[21:03] <akgraner> woo hoo - Ubuntu Banner just shower up... I wonder if Pete would cringe if he comes home and I have it hanging up in the house...
[21:03] <akgraner> showed
[21:03] <akgraner> not shower... dang it
[21:03] <jono> duanedesign, you there?
[21:03] <jono> call time
[21:04] <Pici> akgraner: so that means you're going to do it?
[21:04]  * jono kicks in the five minute rule
[21:04] <mhall119> I was gonna say, that's improper use of a banner
[21:04] <nigelb> lol
[21:04] <akgraner> lol
[21:04] <nigelb> jono: technically 5 minutes is over :P
[21:04] <akgraner> Pici :-)
[21:04] <akgraner> I gotta take a pic for the team ya know
[21:04] <mhall119> nigelb: he's on California time, it's different
[21:04] <nigelb> slower? :P
[21:05] <mhall119> just....different
[21:06] <cjohnston> just like a new york minute is different than everyone elses minute, right mhall119 ?
[21:07] <mhall119> exactly
[21:16] <nigelb> greg-g: I was just about to wonder if anyone heard anything about you ;)
[21:17] <greg-g> nigelb: wait, what did I do? :)
[21:17] <nigelb> greg-g: well, post the move. I just saw an fb post :)
[21:18] <greg-g> ahhhh, gotcha
[21:18] <cjohnston> interesting track names
[21:21] <nigelb> jcastro: we need to do the css fixing dance again :(
[21:21] <jcastro> greg-g: your craigslist post is awesome
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[21:22] <nigelb> on http://uds.ubuntu.com/tracks/
[21:22] <greg-g> jcastro: thanks :) Carrie mostly wrote it
[21:24] <jcastro> nigelb: ok refresh
[21:24] <jcastro> doesn't look quite right
[21:25] <nigelb> looks better, but not yet okay :(
[21:26] <nigelb> jcastro: can't do much. But at least its much better than before.