[00:46] <sn0w75> Hey all, I just dropped in to say: I love what you guys have done with Thunderbird integration into ubuntu 11.10. ^.^
[01:10] <micahg> sn0w75: that's chrisccoulson and m_conley_away
[03:05] <ashams_> Hello, I'm trying to fix this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/language-pack-cy/+bug/628840
[03:05] <ubot2`> Ubuntu bug 628840 in language-pack-cy "Typo in firefox password preferences" [Undecided,In progress]
[03:06] <ashams_> and the mentioned typo is not in the suggested pkg
[03:07] <ashams_> I searched for the both words, and even the english translation
[03:07] <ashams_> Now I susbect the pkg
[03:07] <ashams_> suspect*
[03:24] <ashams_> If anyone is researching the bug, please tell me!
[03:27] <ashams_> Ok, I gtg, sorry, I'll be here later
[03:27] <ashams_> thanks
[04:30] <joelesko> chrisccoulson: Thanks for the info. I was trying the firefox and then switched to the thunderbird after chatting with micahg
[04:32] <joelesko> I really appreicate you explaining why you pull the source code instead of the just the source tars
[04:33] <joelesko> I'm hoping to have a tested version done this weekend
[04:34] <micahg> joelesko: that's great, I hope to be caught up enough by mid-week to review/sponsor it
[04:35] <joelesko> micahg: thanks. I had a bunch of catchup to get seamonkey caught up to where thunderbird is.
[04:37] <joelesko> I looked at the i10 stuff and the unity patches some today and realized it was going to take a little more time.
[04:37] <micahg> I know, I think I was the last one to touch it, and that was at the end of natty
[04:38] <joelesko> I plan on starting with what you have for thunderbird and getting that to work. I like how everything is now in the same build package.
[04:38] <micahg> part of the reason I haven't updated it is due to the amount of changes necessary to get it working
[04:38] <micahg> yeah, that would be great
[04:39] <joelesko> I understand now after seeing what goes into the other mozilla packages.
[04:40] <joelesko> I'm sure I'll have more questions and I finally found a decent irc client that stays connected.
[04:40] <micahg> joelesko: cool, I used pidgin before, now xchat, once seamonkey's updated, you could use chatzilla :)
[04:41] <joelesko> I think they dropped chatzilla.
[04:41] <joelesko> Quassel is really nice
[04:41] <micahg> joelesko: between chrisccoulson and myself there's usually only a few hours a day where one of us isn't online
[04:42] <micahg> at least during the work week
[04:42] <joelesko> I see that. I have time at nights and early mornings and weekends
[04:42] <micahg> so, feel free to ask questions whenever, if we're not around, we'll get back to you
[04:43]  * micahg is quite curious to see how seamonkey 2.3.3 does against firefox/thunderbird 6
[04:43] <joelesko> thanks. this is very helpful to me and  I hope we will get seamonkey back up to date again.
[04:45] <joelesko> There are 2 reason I like seamonkey so much. 1) everything in one package and program. 2) send this page as email
[04:46] <micahg> yeah, I used to pine for Seamonkey catching up with Firefox/Thunderbird due to a lack of RAM, I no longer have that issue, but am still curious as to what the savings would be
[04:48] <joelesko> I'm happy with how fast they are starting to update seamonkey. It used to be way behind compared to Firefox/Thunderbird
[04:49] <micahg> I think rapid release is benefitting Seamonkey tremendously
[04:49] <micahg> Callek is doing an awesome job cranking out those releases
[04:50] <joelesko> I plan on getting the initial build done without the patches. Once that is done I will need some help understanding what the patches do so I can test them properly.
[04:50] <micahg> well, some of them will be obsolete, some help Seamonkey actually build, some are Ubuntu specific
[04:51] <joelesko> I saw messages a while ago where you were talking about some of the unity intergration.
[04:51] <joelesko> That sounded like it would be difficult to maintain.
[04:52] <micahg> well, it should be the same code as Firefox/Thunderbird, chrisccoulson would just have to land it 3 places instead of 2 if we succeed in keeping it up to date
[04:53] <micahg> maybe it can make it upstream eventually
[04:53] <joelesko> eventually would be nice
[04:54] <micahg> joelesko: eventually, if you want, we can get you rights to upload seamonkey to the archive for the dev release if you're interested
[04:57] <joelesko> that would be great. thanks.
[04:58] <joelesko> What did chrisccoulson mean with "and you'd need to update ALL_LOCALES, SHIPPED_LOCALES and VERSION_FILE to their seamonkey equivalents"
[04:58] <micahg> criteria are:  6+ months of sustained contribution and good working knowledge of the packaging for the package in question
[04:58] <micahg> joelesko: probably variables somewhere in the packaging pointing to the upstream repo
[04:59] <joelesko> micahg: I don't think that will be a problem with the time and contributions as I really like Ubuntu and seamonkey.
[05:00] <micahg> joelesko: I'm not worried, just letting you know
[05:03]  * micahg will also be on the DMB starting Monday hopefully
[08:09] <joelesko> chrisccoulson:  could use a little help with the l10n stuff.
[08:11] <joelesko> the 'ka' locales is in the all-locales files, but it does not support a tag for seamonkey.
[08:12] <joelesko> in the config directory there is a file locales.blacklist and I thought I could add it there, but that didn't work
[08:13] <chrisccoulson> hi joelesko
[08:13] <chrisccoulson> which branch of seamonkey is this?
[08:13] <joelesko> hi chrisccoulson
[08:13] <joelesko> I was working on SEAMONKEY_2_3_3_RELEASE
[08:13] <joelesko> L10N_REPO = http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/l10n/mozilla-release
[08:14] <chrisccoulson> the script should just omit the ka translations from the tarball if that is the case. is it doing something different?
[08:14] <joelesko> It gets to ka and then gets an error because there is no tag in it for Seamonkey
[08:14] <chrisccoulson> ah
[08:15] <chrisccoulson> 1 second
[08:15] <joelesko> Running hg update -r SEAMONKEY_2_3_3_RELEASE
[08:15] <joelesko> abort: unknown revision 'SEAMONKEY_2_3_3_RELEASE'!
[08:15] <chrisccoulson> i think i pushed a fix for that yesterday
[08:15] <chrisccoulson> the intention is that it will just skip ka and omit it from the tarball
[08:15] <chrisccoulson> as it's not actually a shipped locale, that doesn't actually matter
[08:15] <joelesko> That's what I was hoping for.
[08:15] <chrisccoulson> (and we do a check later on to ensure that all locales that are intended to be shipped are actually present in the tarball)
[08:16] <joelesko> After the abort, I get ***Checking that required locales are present***
[08:16] <joelesko> be - Yes
[08:16] <chrisccoulson> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/thunderbird/thunderbird-trunk.head/revision/431
[08:16] <chrisccoulson> although, that commit contains another unrelated tidy up
[08:16] <chrisccoulson> but that fixes it
[08:17] <chrisccoulson> the issue is that we were catching the exception outside of the for loop, which doesn't work :)
[08:19] <joelesko> rerunning.
[08:19] <joelesko> Do you define DEBIAN_TAG in the rules file?
[08:20] <chrisccoulson> no, i pass that manually when creating a release tarball
[08:20] <chrisccoulson> for creating the nightlies, we don't pass that
[08:20] <joelesko> in the environment?
[08:21] <chrisccoulson> joelesko, debian/rules get-orig-source DEBIAN_TAG=SEAMONKEY_2_3_3_RELEASE will work
[08:21] <joelesko> Thanks. That makes life much easier
[08:21] <chrisccoulson> do you use LOCAL_BRANCH too?
[08:21] <chrisccoulson> to avoid downloading the whole repo each time ;)
[08:22] <joelesko> Yes on LOCAL_BRANCH. I just put  it in the rules for now till I was able to chat with you.
[08:23] <chrisccoulson> ah, ok. yeah, that would work
[08:25] <joelesko> I know it needs to be pulled before sending the package up. I will just do a wrapper script.
[08:27] <joelesko> chrisccoulson: Now I'm getting: main__.MissingLocaleError: Locale ar is missing from the source tarball
[08:29] <chrisccoulson_> joelesko, did you update everything in http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/thunderbird/thunderbird-trunk.head/view/head:/debian/build/create-tarball to point to the seamonkey equivalents?
[08:29] <chrisccoulson_> (particularly, SHIPPED_LOCALES)
[08:30] <joelesko> yes
[08:30] <chrisccoulson_> it doesn't look like ar is shipped by seamonkey, so you shouldn't see that error
[08:30] <chrisccoulson_> http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/comm-release/file/368d43ab4d96/suite/locales/shipped-locales
[08:32] <joelesko> oops
[08:33] <chrisccoulson_> heh :)
[08:33] <joelesko> I copied the new create-tarball without changing the parameters
[08:33] <chrisccoulson_> ah, that would be why :)
[08:34] <joelesko> I really like that these scripts are in python. Much easier for me.
[08:34] <joelesko> perl has not been one of my favorites
[08:37] <joelesko> chrisccoulson_: guess what I have?
[08:37] <joelesko> seamonkey_2.3.3.orig.tar.gz
[08:38] <joelesko> That part looks good, now I better get some sleep.
[08:38] <joelesko> chrisccoulson_:  thanks for the help
[08:47] <chrisccoulson_> joelesko, you're welcome. thanks for working on it :)
[09:05] <Pallavi>  hello everyone.. in the souce code of remove duplicate mails, which is in javascript, i made a change in it. how do i add it in thunderbird?
[09:09] <Pallavi> i have started coding, but can't go ahead. please help.
[11:24] <ashams> Hey Guys
[11:24] <ashams> I need help with this bu to fix
[11:24] <ashams> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/language-pack-cy/+bug/628840
[11:24] <ubot2`> Ubuntu bug 628840 in language-pack-cy "Typo in firefox password preferences" [Undecided,In progress]
[11:24] <ashams> I can't find the mentioned word, that has the typo
[11:33] <micahg> ashams: before attempting to fix, you might want to see if it's fixed in Firefox 6 or later
[11:34] <ashams> micahg: aha, Thanks for the tip, I'll get back to the reporter to see if he can reproduce
[11:34] <ashams> micahg: Thanks :D
[11:35] <micahg> ashams: well, Firefox 6 is only in a PPA for Lucid ATM
[11:38] <ashams> micahg: Yes, you're right, the translation data has been updated after the report :D
[11:38] <ashams> So, it's nw fixed
[11:39] <ashams> micahg: thnx
[11:39] <micahg> ashams: fixed where?
[11:39] <ashams> micahg: seems to be upstream
[11:40] <micahg> ok, please note the version if known so the user can figure out when to expect the fix
[11:43] <ashams> micahg: he uses lucid
[11:43] <micahg> no, I mean the version it's fixed in :)
[11:45] <ashams> micahg: it's fixed in Oneric, after firfox 6, but it seems that lucid has an old version?
[11:47] <micahg> yes, we're still waiting to see what happens with the 3.6.x branch and/or an upstream LTS type release, so you can say confirmed fixed with firefox 7, lucid will eventually get an update, we're just not sure when and to what
[11:53] <ashams> micahg: So, the problem is not ours now. Ok, I hope we get updates soon.
[12:03] <micahg> ashams: well, it is ours, but it's on hold :)
[12:18] <ashams> micahg: Hey, Thank you :D
[12:36] <senayar> Hello
[12:36] <senayar> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/7350804/encoding-flash-messsage-firefox-display-bad
[16:32] <chrisccoulson> hmmm, this is where i could really use a working JS debugger :)
[16:44] <joelesko> chrisccoulson: good day.
[16:46] <joelesko> How do you determine what goes into the <project>.install.in file?
[16:47] <joelesko> I have seamonkey building and want to make sure all the files get included. It put all files under the lib directory into the package.
[17:20] <joelesko> chrisccoulson: nevermind, I think I got it.
[17:40] <chrisccoulson> joelesko, sorry, was a bit busy there
[17:40] <chrisccoulson> the best bet is to probably do a build first, and see what files come out of it
[17:40] <chrisccoulson> but i imagine it won't be that much different from thunderbird
[17:42] <chrisccoulson> m_conley, i just wrote a small JS module to handle the loading of libraries and lazy binding of symbols with ctypes :)
[17:42] <chrisccoulson> http://paste.ubuntu.com/686042/
[17:42] <chrisccoulson> based a little bit on http://hg.mozilla.org/users/mozilla_kewis.ch/eds-provider/file/2b846300413a/modules/libecal.jsm
[17:42] <m_conley> oh, that's handy
[17:42] <chrisccoulson> i've already got a patch to switch the messagingmenu extension to use it. it cuts the code size down considerably :)
[17:43] <m_conley> nice!
[17:43] <m_conley> :D
[17:43] <chrisccoulson> it also gives access to an ABI member, so that you can adjust the symbols you load, if you want to support multiple ABI's
[17:44] <chrisccoulson> which might be useful for us :)
[17:44] <m_conley> yeah, absolutely!
[17:44] <m_conley> nice work! :)
[17:46] <chrisccoulson> m_conley, as an example - http://paste.ubuntu.com/686045/ versus http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~extension-hackers/messagingmenu-extension/trunk/view/head:/modules/LibDbusmenu.jsm
[17:48] <m_conley> Oh, that's just lovely
[17:48] <m_conley> yes yes yes
[17:48] <m_conley> needed this 3 months ago. :)
[17:48] <m_conley> That's a nice design.
[17:48] <chrisccoulson> :)
[17:59] <chrisccoulson> m_conley, i'm not sure if you're aware, but if you commit something to bzr which fixes a bug, you can add --fixes lp:###### when you do bzr commit, and launchpad will automatically link the commit to the bug report
[17:59] <m_conley> chrisccoulson: oh, that's handy - thanks
[17:59] <m_conley> No, I wasn't aware. :)
[18:58] <iGadget> hi all
[18:59] <iGadget> perhaps I've missed it, but has a decision been made yet on the provided calendar solution for oneiric?
[18:59] <iGadget> will it be Sunbird? Lighting? Something else?
[19:21] <chrisccoulson> m_conley, what do you think about putting the messagingmenu on to a.m.o?
[19:21] <chrisccoulson> there's already an older version on there isn't there?
[19:21] <m_conley> chrisccoulson: there is, yes
[19:22] <m_conley> chrisccoulson: the idea is fine with me.  I'll update it later today.  :)
[19:22] <chrisccoulson> m_conley, thanks
[19:22] <chrisccoulson> i've pushed some more fixes that prevent it from breaking thunderbird if any other libs are missing now :)
[19:23] <chrisccoulson> i noticed when i removed anything other than libunity, i got an empty window  on startup
[19:23] <m_conley> Yikes!
[19:23] <chrisccoulson> m_conley, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~extension-hackers/messagingmenu-extension/trunk/revision/73 and http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~extension-hackers/messagingmenu-extension/trunk/revision/74 fix that
[19:23] <chrisccoulson> basically, throwing on a document load handler is bad :)
[19:24] <m_conley> ha, yes, makes sense.  :)
[19:51] <micahg> iGadget: sunbird isn't maintained upstream, calendaring has been postponed to P AFAIK
[20:08] <FernandoMiguel> evening
[20:46] <iGadget> micahg: well... that's quite a gamble then. Introducing it in an LTS release without a previous release to iron out all the issues :(
[20:47] <iGadget> anyway... I'm off. 'Night all
[20:47] <micahg> iGadget: I just work here :), I don't make the calls
[20:48] <iGadget> I hear 'ya... been there, done that ;)
[20:48] <iGadget> Anyway, I'm looking forward to having T'Bird in Oneiric. Keep up the good work!
[20:49] <iGadget> ... & g'night!
[20:51] <micahg> chrisccoulson: m_conley ^^ that praise is for you :)
[20:52] <chrisccoulson> :)
[21:27] <m_conley> :D