=== aaditya_ is now known as dragon === dragon is now known as aaditya [01:00] jdeslip: doh, I just realized bart isn't near the solano stroll :) [01:00] jdeslip: is there parking? === ChanServ changed the topic of #ubuntu-us-ca to: Welcome to the Ubuntu California Local Community (LoCo) Team! | Webpage: http://ubuntu-california.org (has links to mailing list, forum, and more!) | Next Meeting: Sunday, September 11th, 7:00pm PDT | This channel is publicly logged at irclogs.ubuntu.com | We have an unlogged channel at #ubuntu-us-ca-offtopic [01:36] "Free shuttles run 10AM-7PM from the North Berkeley BART" [01:36] oh, nice :) [01:36] 10AM isn't really early enough to set up the booth, but maybe MJ can drop me off [04:27] Oh yeah, I should figure out my transportation as well. :) [04:33] Okay so the whole thing is 26 blocks? Where exactly are we? [04:37] 1223 Solano Ave [15:15] oh hey seidos [16:10] Powers back! [16:16] Interesting, the Almaden IBM PC club (normally totally Windows-oriented -- I'm on their list because I spoke there once about GIMP) has a speaker on Ubuntu this month. DeForrest Home is the speaker. [16:51] akk: oh, that's cool. === nhaines_ is now known as nhaines [18:04] pleia2: how's email going today? :) [18:48] akk: good catch [18:55] nhaines: I hate spam [18:58] pleia2: what about spam, spam, eggs, and spam? That's not got much spam in it. [18:58] I don't eat pork [18:58] :) [18:59] pleia2: if only bacon weren't so delicious! [18:59] pepperoni is my weakness [18:59] I don't like either of those things! [19:00] rww: but you're weird! [19:01] I like bacon okay, but don't really get why people seem to like it so much more than anything else. [19:02] I ate a chocolate bar once that was fortified with bacon. [19:02] bacon's usually way too fatty [19:23] akk: I'm telling jono on you! [19:25] bacon fatty? lol [19:25] "So, how's everyone doing today?" [19:27] grantbow: have you seen any zebras yet!? [19:27] :) [19:27] I saw an ocelot in phoenix! (it may have been in a zoo) [19:27] yes, first thing I saw was a zebra near the airport but it was dark [19:27] they were just wandering across the road [19:27] yay! [19:28] pictures next time [19:28] :) [19:28] finished second day here. I slept most of it. [19:28] preparations there are for Solano Stroll? [19:29] I think we're all set for the stroll [19:29] good to hear [19:32] Wow, wild zebras? Too cool! [19:32] * grantbow nods [19:34] awesome grantbow:) [19:34] thanks jledbetter [19:47] Hey grantbow [19:50] hey DarkwingDuck === rbarot__ is now known as rbarot_ [20:49] i am so bored [21:35] hey! pleia2 your a mamber of the ubuntu beginners. how did you do that? [21:35] philipballew: a long, long time ago they had a process where you apply at team meetings [21:35] yeah, you're not a beginner, get out of there [21:35] I was told a few weeks ago I should try to by someone [21:35] it's all sort of fallen apart though [21:38] rww, what am i? what would you say i should do. find another place to volunteer? pleia2 [21:38] philipballew: I was talking to pleia2 :P [21:38] i have been looking for a good place to help out lately? [21:39] (and joking) [21:39] thats what i figured! :) [21:39] I've barely stepped foot in #ubuntu-beginners, so... :| [21:39] rww: haha, we *help* beginners :) [21:40] rww, i feel like a begginner on here a lot. but in "real life" i am actually pretty good compared to most [21:40] the more I use Ubuntu, the more I realize everyone's a beginner at way over half of Ubuntu. [21:41] * bkerensa saw a #ubuntu-beginners meeting once and it wasnt pretty [21:41] :D [21:41] just different subsets, so people seem smart to each other :) [21:41] i help people on there. usually at like 1 too 5 am [21:41] when most people are being smart and sleeping [21:42] I mainly have #ubuntu ops because I'm online when people are asleep :) [21:42] * philipballew didnt sleep last night as roaming a city with no power is more fun [21:42] I was in a study room until 3am and then slumped back to my dorm room [21:43] I have no school today. all classed canceled accross all of san diego!!! [21:43] * philipballew partyin partyin yeah! [21:44] your area has been nice though lately i hear [22:15] pleia2: i heard you were an xubuntu user? [22:17] I'm on Unity right now. I feel so mainstream :< [22:18] hahaha [22:18] how is it? [22:18] fine, if I don't plug a second monitor in. if I do, compiz gets unhappy. [22:18] ick [22:18] can't be bothered filing a bug about it, going to see if oneiric fixes it in a few months [22:18] i've been meaning to try it, but haven't mustered the motivation [22:22] i'm super excited for lightdm [22:25] Why? It's like gdm except with less features :P [22:26] rww: they have lots of nice Unity enhancements in oneiric. [22:26] nhaines: yeah, I'm figuring between that and Xorg updates... [22:27] rww: in fact, natty-updates include some Unity fixes for multimonitor setups. [22:27] I ran dual monitors for my Ubuntu Community Week presentation. Was suboptimal. :) [22:28] i dunno i just am excited for lightdm :P i miss back when i used slim on debian [22:28] nhaines: If I had to guess, I'd say it's a compiz <-> Xorg graphics glitch, rather than specifically a Unity UI bug [22:28] down with compiz :P [22:29] raevol: lightdm is great except they had to load GTK drivers, reimplement accessibility and localization stuffs. [22:29] When they're finished, they'll just have gdm again. [22:29] But minus all of the lessons learned writing gdm. [22:30] raevol: yep, xubuntu [22:30] me too, xubuntu [22:30] nhaines: hmm i see [22:31] nhaines: exactly [22:32] I wondered about that ... how it was lighter weight if it had a similar feature set. [22:32] At least unity-greeter on lightdm is pretty. Except the input fields are sort of wonky. [22:33] If you're worried about gdm being too heavyweight, why use a dm at all? [22:33] No insertion point (cursor) and your password just disappears when you hit enter. [22:33] akk: because 'startx' is scary. :) [22:33] and why not refactor the problematic parts of gdm instead of starting from scratch? [22:33] rww: because of reasons. [22:36] Because it's way more fun to start from scratch than to try to figure out someone else's ugly broken code? [22:36] true [22:36] akk: that might be it. :) [22:49] pleia2: Burned 60+ CDs for Sunday. [22:49] jyo: yay! thank you [22:49] Now I need to print and fold 60+ cases. :) [22:50] jyo: actually I have a bunch [22:50] and I need to use them soon because they go obsolete soon [22:50] so if you just want to bring the CDs I think we'll be good [22:50] we can fold while we're there at the booth :) [23:20] pleia2 I burned a bunch of CDs for Sunday as well. They are in a box getting delivered to Ian Lynn today. [23:20] grantbow: cool, thanks :) [23:25] =o [23:26] Somehow it seems cheaper to go to a CD printer and have them make labels and burn cds with Ubuntu then to buy from the Canonical store [23:26] =o [23:27] cheaper still to have volunteers from the loco burn a bunch and use sleeves we designed: https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-california/+junk/2010branding-sleeves [23:28] CD fabrication requires an economy of scale that doesn't economically exist for us. :) [23:28] * pleia2 nods [23:28] the pennsylvania loco had a team member with a huge burning machine that would burn like 100 cds at a time, but he didn't buy it for the loco, it was a work thing I think :) [23:29] the quick cycles are why suse pulled their box sets from shelves years back [23:30] Ernie wanted to build a burn machine for the loco. I would too. [23:39] pleia2: you're right, I don't trust that philipballew either. [23:39] hahaha [23:41] philipballew, is a real loser :) [23:41] philipballew is my BFF this week because he blogged about the san diego jam [23:41] (hehe, "BFF this week") [23:42] you used it or something :) [23:42] hehe [23:43] * philipballew is always out of the loop :) [23:44] philipballew: the joke is that (you can check the logs) no one was talking about you at all before you got here. :) [23:45] (in fact, we were talking about making Ubuntu CDs economically.) [23:45] I am still excited about grantbow seeing zebras [23:45] I'm telling everyone [23:46] * philipballew left his 100 pack of cd's at scale I hope they went to good use. I saw a zebra at the zoo here once. very nice [23:46] philipballew: the ones that weren't given away at scale were given away at the noisebridge hackerspace, presumably all went to good use :) [23:46] at least I didn't see any ISO castles [23:47] excellent :) i have 2 in my dorm room. what does iso stand for? [23:47] I had a job interview for a network maintainer for the school and they kept asking my computer acronyms like iso. that was one i did not know [23:47] I suppose the proper term would be CDs [23:48] ISO refers to the fact that proper .iso files are ISO-9660 file systems [23:48] International Standards Organization [23:48] ISO is a CD image, it refers to the fact that CDs use ISO-9660 as their file system. [23:48] rww: get out of my head! [23:48] * philipballew was the only person when asked to name computer parts named raid cards. and even know what raid does [23:48] well, International Organization for Standardization [23:49] there is a organization for everything. [23:49] there is even a organization that determines wifi standards as well [23:50] someone's got to [23:50] pleia2: http://i.imgur.com/DLFRX.png <-- Our banner (proof) [23:50] =o [23:50] bkerensa: nice :) [23:50] i'll take the job. i will mandate all essid's be called phil [23:50] bkerensa: Ubuntu font? :) [23:51] "did you connect to phil yet? " "hold on a sec" [23:51] nhaines: Unfortunately Staples Banner Designer software does not offer that [23:51] :D [23:51] thats just a mock up [23:52] * bkerensa is gonna use Ubuntu font when he does it in gimp [23:52] bkerensa: another good reason to use PDF. ;) [23:52] a local place would do it [23:52] Noo! Inkscape! [23:52] nhaines: Nooo [23:52] yeah you want inkscape so you can do vector [23:52] Inkscape annoys me :P [23:52] LOL [23:52] It is your destiny. [23:52] * nhaines breathes. [23:52] I cant do Inkscape [23:52] ours was sent to the printer as a massive pdf exported from svg [23:52] any volunteers? [23:52] :D [23:52] everyone in our loco is coders :D [23:52] do it all in blender bkerensa [23:53] needs more lens flare. [23:53] if I can do inkscape anyone can [23:53] nhaines: hahaha [23:53] pleia2: This is totally not sexist but Women generally are more artistic then men [23:53] :) [23:54] that or I just lack the ability [23:54] :D [23:54] all the women in my woodshop class's in hs kept putting out better things then me. [23:54] see! [23:54] my wooden bowl I made in woodshop was horrid [23:54] :D [23:55] the ceramic tux penguin made in ceramics in hs though AWESOME!!!! [23:55] I guess the issue I have with Inkscape is selecting layers [23:55] =/ [23:55] Not as easy as Gimp [23:55] bkerensa: haha, I like pink but I do NOT fulfill that stereotype [23:55] * pleia2 useless at art, can't even match clothes [23:56] ah jeez getting paged [23:56] bkerensa: good news then because Inkscape doesn't have layers! :D [23:56] * philipballew wore a pink shirt yesterday [23:57] nhaines: Ok elements or whatever? How do I select between a text element and a shape/image etc? [23:57] click on it [23:58] ^^ this [23:58] just make it all in mircosoft publisher bkerensa :) [23:59] now I'm really going to talk about philipballew behind his back [23:59] (does publisher even exist anymore?) [23:59] i was criticized last week for not knowing active directory. or .net