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InHisNamewaltman: yes, the tomtom gps mini size for mini price.01:15
InHisNameGreat for son who is map challenged, but don't wanna spend much $$ for that.01:16
waltmannavigation's my superpower. I don't want one of those things.01:16
InHisNamewaltman: sleeping in flooded basement puddles DOES save travel time and avoids the sandy grit after the beach trip.   BUT no comparison to boogie boarding.01:18
InHisNameYes, I had 1" a bit more than Irene put in my basement.01:19
* TheEvilPhoenix walks in with updated info regarding the conditions in Wilkes Barre and Harrisburg01:21
TheEvilPhoenixyes, PEMA briefs are boring01:21
TheEvilPhoenixbut informative :P01:21
TheEvilPhoenixand i greet thee01:21
TheEvilPhoenixInHisName:  hopefully you're nice and dry :P01:26
InHisNamemr`zilla: Biblical flooding   40 days x 24 hr x 60 min  24x7 ---- rain 29,800 ft x 12in/ft  comes out to approx 6" per minute rain fall.   Did someone get that HEAVY of a rain fall ?01:30
MutantTurkey..01:31
* TheEvilPhoenix yells randomly01:33
MutantTurkeyWOOHOOOoo01:34
InHisNameTheEvilPhoenix:  Yes, my basement is getting drier as it goes.   Humidity shot up over 70% on dehumidifier.  Now its below 60%. The floor is getting drier as time goes by.01:34
MutantTurkeymy basement is borked.01:34
TheEvilPhoenixMutantTurkey:  where are ya in the state?01:34
MutantTurkeybut I put  the A/C on and unattached all my vents, so the air is all going into the basement. seems affective01:34
InHisNameGot out a wet-vac and the puddles disappeared very quickly.01:34
MutantTurkeyTheEvilPhoenix: Phily Suburbs01:35
TheEvilPhoenixah01:35
TheEvilPhoenixbe glad you arent in harrisburg or wilkes berre01:35
MutantTurkeyI am not glad01:35
MutantTurkeyI would rather have legitimate flooding, have flood insurance, and then get my stuff back.01:35
MutantTurkeyhere they are just laughing at me.01:35
InHisNameI didn't buy the optional flood insurance for rental property in Fla.  MutantTurkey01:41
InHisNameThey wanted $350/yr and I got quote from repair guys to 'replace' drywall wetted by flood of bottom 4" in house - $3500 and included new carpets,  same tile, parquet floor repaired.   I presented a hypethetical problem.  I was in the 100+ to 500 year flood zone (optional)01:44
InHisNameNo way was I expecting to do a flood claim EVERY 10 years.01:44
InHisNameSo in last 25 years I have had $0 in flood damages to claim on insurance I did NOT buy.01:45
InHisNameSooooo, I saved at least $10,500 and would have had $0 claims,  I WIN !!!01:47
* InHisName says good nite you all.02:24
mr`zillaInHisName: Er, was just comedic exaggeration.03:50
InHisNameGood morning everybody !!!08:01
rmg51morning09:35
JonathanDMorning.09:41
InHisNameMorning rmg51 & JonathanD10:13
rmg51o/10:16
MutantTurkeytop of the morning to ya folks11:10
rmg51o/11:27
rmg51bye11:27
rmg51time to head to work11:27
jedijfChinnoDog: check out woot.com eink and tablet11:43
JonathanDI saw that.11:56
JonathanDBut not sure how good it is :/11:56
teddy-dbearmorning12:16
InHisNamethey mentioned eink doesn't have their estore or other offerings running anymore.   So must be an obsolete product already.13:11
=== InHisName1 is now known as HowdyDoody
HowdyDoodyArrrggghhh, I uninstalled vbox, linux-headers, and dkms, then rebooted.   Now garbage on screen. Seems stuck.15:36
HowdyDoodyNow in recovery mode.  Not sure which way to turn.   Did pkg recovery.  Nothing that I could tell changed.   What next from recovery?15:37
* TheEvilPhoenix sighs15:37
TheEvilPhoenixyet another day at PEMA15:38
TheEvilPhoenix>.>15:38
HowdyDoodyOk, tried resume, and got to assign password for ???, then logged in.   Text prompt.15:39
HowdyDoodyWhat to look for to fix.15:39
HowdyDoodyNow it boots to showing hdd and press any key to continue and continues without pressing any. Changes graphics scale for 5 seconds then NO MONITOR signal and everything stays dead.  No grub no nutthin'.   I guess its live CD time.  But what to look for and fix to at least boot grub  etc.?17:01
TheEvilPhoenixsounds like you have a uberfailed system17:14
=== Joe_CoT is now known as Josephine_CoT
pleia2Josephine_CoT: is there something you aren't telling us?17:35
Josephine_CoTpleia2, LOL17:36
Josephine_CoTthe perils of signing on freenode for both linux and reddit stuff.17:37
pleia2:)17:37
Josephine_CoTInside joke in reddit-philadelphia. Guys keep signing on looking for girls, so a few of us decided to run interference17:37
pleia2haha17:37
teddy-dbearthe bear wants pictures of Josephine_CoT in a dress ;-)17:46
Josephine_CoTLOL17:46
=== Josephine_CoT is now known as Joe_CoT
ChinnoDogtest19:00
waltmanfail19:01
ChinnoDog:-(19:02
MutantTurkeysubwoofer might be okay! I am hoping so.19:30
MutantTurkeyThis week will constitue a dramatic change in the running of my household. additional troops are being sent to gaurd the borders and to protect ourselves from invasion of the FLOOD forces.19:31
MutantTurkeythe GOP has decided to pass the newest bill dubbed the "waterfront protection act" to help the nation become effective in PREVENTING and rapidly aiding sectors in need.19:32
MutantTurkeywe NEED to pass this bill19:32
MutantTurkeyI reiterate, we NEED to pass this bil..19:32
MutantTurkeythank you, goodnight.19:32
ChinnoDoggobble gobble19:35
MutantTurkeyChinnoDog: you are barking up the wrong tree19:47
MutantTurkeyjust tuck your tail and run19:48
MutantTurkeyHey someone is ringing the door bell!19:48
MutantTurkeyyou've got really bad dog-breath19:48
* TheEvilPhoenix walks in carrying a map, a phone, a computer, and a blackberry smartphone19:48
MutantTurkeyTheEvilPhoenix: the ironic part is that they all can serve as a navigation device.19:48
TheEvilPhoenixMutantTurkey:  the serious part is that i'm at PEMA tracking the storms in PA and the flooding and what not19:49
TheEvilPhoenixso all this gear has a purpose19:49
MutantTurkeyPennsylvania Emergency M___ A____?19:49
TheEvilPhoenixmanagement agency19:50
TheEvilPhoenixcentral PA hq19:50
TheEvilPhoenixwhat with the EOCs at Level I (Disaster Conditions), its a secured building :P19:50
MutantTurkeyI see.19:50
MutantTurkeyis it G - classfied?19:52
TheEvilPhoenixgo read the news, you'd see its not19:52
TheEvilPhoenixgov just was on TV19:52
MutantTurkeybad rush hour joke...19:52
MutantTurkeyI don't have a telly19:53
HowdyDoodyhow to tell which linux / ubuntu version I am running ?20:03
pleia2for ubuntu, cat /etc/lsb-release20:05
jedijflsb_release -a20:05
pleia2yeah, that too20:05
jedijfcat /proc/version20:06
jedijfthat too20:06
HowdyDoodyhow to find 2.6.38.09 or whatever20:06
MutantTurkeyuname -a20:06
MutantTurkeyisn't that it20:06
HowdyDoodyok20:06
MutantTurkeyuname -a20:06
pleia2yeah, that's how to find the kernel version20:07
jedijfuname -a will work too20:07
MutantTurkeypleia2: does ubuntu actually have it's own command for that?20:07
jedijfrmg knows clicky way20:07
MutantTurkeyI have no seen the lsb.. anywhere else?20:07
MutantTurkeywell actually now that I think about it, arch isn't versioned...20:07
pleia2lsb is not uncommon20:07
pleia2ubuntu just comes with it by default and uses it20:07
MutantTurkeyhmmm I wonder what provides it.20:07
pleia2lsb - Linux Standard Base 3.2 support package20:08
pleia2^^ on my debian system20:08
MutantTurkeylet me try and sync it20:08
pleia2but it's not used by default in debian20:08
MutantTurkeydon't have it weird20:08
pleia2ii  lsb-release                           4.0-0ubuntu11                                Linux Standard Base version reporting utility20:08
pleia2in ubuntu 11.0420:08
MutantTurkeyanyway that's actually quite usful.20:09
HowdyDoodyI've rebooted and my system lost Unity and reverted to older interface/desktop.   BUT it IS 11.0420:09
pleia2HowdyDoody: it'll do that if it has trouble loading Unity20:09
MutantTurkeysomethign about hardware detection...20:09
HowdyDoodyIs there a switch to flic it back ?20:09
pleia2HowdyDoody: when you log in you can select which session to use20:09
HowdyDoodyI'll check ...20:10
HowdyDoodyI see ubuntu, ubuntu classic, ubuntu safe mode, etc.    No UNITY mentions.20:12
MutantTurkeywouldn't ubuntu (being the default) be unity *also the default*20:12
pleia2yep, ubuntu20:13
HowdyDoodySeems to be the default selection.   I'll try it but I thought I was in default.20:13
pleia2again, if there are any problems with your graphics card or configuration it will fail back to classic20:13
pleia2so if selecting "ubuntu" puts you into classic something is broken20:14
HowdyDoodyNope, just plain vanilla20:14
HowdyDoodyMy fan died on the monitor card.   I finally drilled a hole and oiled it.  Now working again.20:14
jedijf[jimf@arch_desktop ~]$ cat /proc/version20:15
jedijfLinux version 3.0-ARCH (thomas@evey) (gcc version 4.6.1 (GCC) ) #1 SMP PREEMPT Sat Aug 6 16:18:35 CEST 201120:15
jedijf[jimf@arch_desktop ~]$ uname -a20:15
jedijfLinux arch_desktop 3.0-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Sat Aug 6 16:18:35 CEST 2011 x86_64 Intel(R) Pentium(R) CPU E5700 @ 3.00GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux20:15
jedijfMutantTurkey: yeah no lsb package by default20:15
MutantTurkeyhurmmm20:15
MutantTurkeyLinux home 3.0-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Tue Aug 30 08:53:25 CEST 2011 x86_64 Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU 330 @ 1.60GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux20:16
jedijf[jimf@arch_desktop ~]$ pacman -Ss lsb20:16
jedijfcommunity/lsb-release 1.4-10 LSB version query program20:16
MutantTurkeyah very counter intuitively named.20:16
MutantTurkeywonder who maintains it.20:16
HowdyDoodyHow to UNDO this unity reversal of default20:17
MutantTurkeyprobably falconindy lol.20:17
jedijfHowdyDoody: log out. from seesion switcher choose Ubuntu.20:19
jedijfsession20:19
jedijfor try a shutdown and restart, to see if your drilling for oil job worked and the card is recognized20:20
HowdyDoodyI did log out and choose unbuntu   (plain)  no classic or such.   Gave me classic.   Used to be untiy was default.20:21
HowdyDoodyThis is 5th boot up.20:21
jedijfno unity for you20:21
HowdyDoodyUsed to be fine20:22
MutantTurkeyHowdyDoody: can you override it by deleting conf files?20:22
jedijfthis is the future20:22
HowdyDoodyIt sees my Dell 22" monitor just fine.20:22
MutantTurkeyhow do they decide on the session?20:22
MutantTurkeysomewhere hidden in the gconf2 hell20:22
jedijfnot monitor graphics adapter20:22
MutantTurkeyits looking for your Graphics Adapter20:23
MutantTurkeyjedijf: how is the randr support with unity?20:23
jedijfxrandr is the way to go iirc20:24
jedijf1104 is home20:24
jedijfi am in office.....11.04 is only on my netty20:24
jedijfHowdyDoody: lspci and google which module you /should/ use then lsmod and see which it is using and go from there20:26
MutantTurkeyI meant, how is the xrandr support20:26
MutantTurkeyis there a nice dialog or anything?20:26
jedijfno20:26
MutantTurkey:|20:26
MutantTurkeyremember Trinity i keep mentioning?20:26
MutantTurkeywe just got awesome xrandr support, I am really excited to see what people make of it.20:26
jedijfVGA connected 1280x1024+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 320mm x 240mm 1280x1024      60.0*20:27
jedijfmore than that?20:27
jedijfor were you expecting hand holding20:27
jedijflike, your card is lame...please upgrade card to experience unity20:28
jedijfthanks, mark s20:28
MutantTurkeyjedijf: confused.20:28
MutantTurkeywe have a k control module that adds really easily workable xrandr support20:28
jedijfwell for HowdyDoody ; if nothing really changed hardwarewise, i can only surmise wrong module installed20:29
jedijfor do you have any water in basement, put desktop in water and see if unity loads20:31
jedijfreverse flood damage20:31
MutantTurkeyI can confirm positive results.20:34
jedijfdpkg -l | grep unity20:35
jedijfhe was deleting stuff earlier in the day20:36
HowdyDoodytried booting with ubuntu choice, then user defined   --- both gave classic20:36
jedijfdpkg -l | grep unity20:36
jedijfHowdyDoody: waht does ^^^ output?20:36
HowdyDoodyis that - letter ell ?20:36
jedijfoy vey20:37
HowdyDoodyok off to try20:37
jedijfdo this, this should fix all sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop20:38
HowdyDoodya bunch of stuff   highest # seen   3.8.16  2 places20:39
HowdyDoodyInstall desktop on top of what ever is already there ?   No UNinstall first ?20:41
jedijfreinstall if it makes you feel better20:42
jedijfsudo aptitude reinstall ubuntu-desktop20:42
HowdyDoodyrebooted from power off,  selected 'ubuntu' session and logged in20:57
HowdyDoodyGot classic still20:58
jedijfdriver issue then if it worked previously20:58
jedijfcat /var/log/Xorg.0.log21:00
jedijffor clues21:00
HowdyDoodyI tried switching to kde,   but went black with mouse arrow.   "building desktop search" it said briefly.21:02
MutantTurkeyyeah.. I have had a bunch of problems with kdes file searching thinger21:03
HowdyDoodymay have long wait to get to logs21:03
MutantTurkeyit just cycles my cpu like a beast.21:03
HowdyDoodydidn't give option to skip either21:04
HowdyDoodyI'll go do other things. Maybe something will happen when I don't watch.21:05
jedijfor now's the time to try lubuntu-desktop !21:05
MutantTurkeyhow is lubuntu21:12
MutantTurkeyis it still just openbox + a few disjointed apps slapped together and a panel?21:12
MutantTurkeyor is it legit?21:12
MutantTurkeyI got a very much of a "just openbox, a desktop, and a panel. all very seperated21:12
MutantTurkeykind of a feel21:12
MutantTurkeythat was maybe 2 years ago21:12
ChinnoDogI noticed there still isn't a PennBot21:28
jedijfMutantTurkey: same, it's been that long for me21:28
pleia2there is a known vulnerability with supybots that was causing it to eat all the CPU, I don't really want supybots running on that server anyway (on good days they use too much ram)21:29
MutantTurkeysupybot hmmm21:33
MutantTurkeyI work with one team that uses mozbot and I find it terrible.21:34
MutantTurkeyi always though supybot was good.21:34
MutantTurkeymaybe thats just because the logs are lightyears head of mozbots log system...21:34
MutantTurkeyone thing about unity I am really jelly is the top bar integration, I've been trying to get top bar integration for ages and its just a pain in the arse with gtk patches that don't work21:35
jedijfsupy_hate--21:40
jedijfjimf     12943  0.0  0.6  50268 13732 pts/2    S+   Aug14  31:10 /usr/bin/python /usr/local/bin/supybot PacsBot.conf21:41
Joe_CoTpleia2, is supybot no longer developed? why hasn't the vulnerability been fixed?21:58
pleia2Joe_CoT: it's fixed in a patch in git, but all the versions in ubuntu, etc are broken21:58
pleia2http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/09/09/%23ubuntu-irc.html#t19:2821:59
ChinnoDoggobble gobble22:30
MutantTurkeyyou're barking up the wrong tree22:31
MutantTurkeytuck your tail and run22:31

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