| InHisName | waltman: yes, the tomtom gps mini size for mini price. | 01:15 |
|---|---|---|
| InHisName | Great for son who is map challenged, but don't wanna spend much $$ for that. | 01:16 |
| waltman | navigation's my superpower. I don't want one of those things. | 01:16 |
| InHisName | waltman: sleeping in flooded basement puddles DOES save travel time and avoids the sandy grit after the beach trip. BUT no comparison to boogie boarding. | 01:18 |
| InHisName | Yes, I had 1" a bit more than Irene put in my basement. | 01:19 |
| * TheEvilPhoenix walks in with updated info regarding the conditions in Wilkes Barre and Harrisburg | 01:21 | |
| TheEvilPhoenix | yes, PEMA briefs are boring | 01:21 |
| TheEvilPhoenix | but informative :P | 01:21 |
| TheEvilPhoenix | and i greet thee | 01:21 |
| TheEvilPhoenix | InHisName: hopefully you're nice and dry :P | 01:26 |
| InHisName | mr`zilla: Biblical flooding 40 days x 24 hr x 60 min 24x7 ---- rain 29,800 ft x 12in/ft comes out to approx 6" per minute rain fall. Did someone get that HEAVY of a rain fall ? | 01:30 |
| MutantTurkey | .. | 01:31 |
| * TheEvilPhoenix yells randomly | 01:33 | |
| MutantTurkey | WOOHOOOoo | 01:34 |
| InHisName | TheEvilPhoenix: Yes, my basement is getting drier as it goes. Humidity shot up over 70% on dehumidifier. Now its below 60%. The floor is getting drier as time goes by. | 01:34 |
| MutantTurkey | my basement is borked. | 01:34 |
| TheEvilPhoenix | MutantTurkey: where are ya in the state? | 01:34 |
| MutantTurkey | but I put the A/C on and unattached all my vents, so the air is all going into the basement. seems affective | 01:34 |
| InHisName | Got out a wet-vac and the puddles disappeared very quickly. | 01:34 |
| MutantTurkey | TheEvilPhoenix: Phily Suburbs | 01:35 |
| TheEvilPhoenix | ah | 01:35 |
| TheEvilPhoenix | be glad you arent in harrisburg or wilkes berre | 01:35 |
| MutantTurkey | I am not glad | 01:35 |
| MutantTurkey | I would rather have legitimate flooding, have flood insurance, and then get my stuff back. | 01:35 |
| MutantTurkey | here they are just laughing at me. | 01:35 |
| InHisName | I didn't buy the optional flood insurance for rental property in Fla. MutantTurkey | 01:41 |
| InHisName | They wanted $350/yr and I got quote from repair guys to 'replace' drywall wetted by flood of bottom 4" in house - $3500 and included new carpets, same tile, parquet floor repaired. I presented a hypethetical problem. I was in the 100+ to 500 year flood zone (optional) | 01:44 |
| InHisName | No way was I expecting to do a flood claim EVERY 10 years. | 01:44 |
| InHisName | So in last 25 years I have had $0 in flood damages to claim on insurance I did NOT buy. | 01:45 |
| InHisName | Sooooo, I saved at least $10,500 and would have had $0 claims, I WIN !!! | 01:47 |
| * InHisName says good nite you all. | 02:24 | |
| mr`zilla | InHisName: Er, was just comedic exaggeration. | 03:50 |
| InHisName | Good morning everybody !!! | 08:01 |
| rmg51 | morning | 09:35 |
| JonathanD | Morning. | 09:41 |
| InHisName | Morning rmg51 & JonathanD | 10:13 |
| rmg51 | o/ | 10:16 |
| MutantTurkey | top of the morning to ya folks | 11:10 |
| rmg51 | o/ | 11:27 |
| rmg51 | bye | 11:27 |
| rmg51 | time to head to work | 11:27 |
| jedijf | ChinnoDog: check out woot.com eink and tablet | 11:43 |
| JonathanD | I saw that. | 11:56 |
| JonathanD | But not sure how good it is :/ | 11:56 |
| teddy-dbear | morning | 12:16 |
| InHisName | they mentioned eink doesn't have their estore or other offerings running anymore. So must be an obsolete product already. | 13:11 |
| === InHisName1 is now known as HowdyDoody | ||
| HowdyDoody | Arrrggghhh, I uninstalled vbox, linux-headers, and dkms, then rebooted. Now garbage on screen. Seems stuck. | 15:36 |
| HowdyDoody | Now in recovery mode. Not sure which way to turn. Did pkg recovery. Nothing that I could tell changed. What next from recovery? | 15:37 |
| * TheEvilPhoenix sighs | 15:37 | |
| TheEvilPhoenix | yet another day at PEMA | 15:38 |
| TheEvilPhoenix | >.> | 15:38 |
| HowdyDoody | Ok, tried resume, and got to assign password for ???, then logged in. Text prompt. | 15:39 |
| HowdyDoody | What to look for to fix. | 15:39 |
| HowdyDoody | Now it boots to showing hdd and press any key to continue and continues without pressing any. Changes graphics scale for 5 seconds then NO MONITOR signal and everything stays dead. No grub no nutthin'. I guess its live CD time. But what to look for and fix to at least boot grub etc.? | 17:01 |
| TheEvilPhoenix | sounds like you have a uberfailed system | 17:14 |
| === Joe_CoT is now known as Josephine_CoT | ||
| pleia2 | Josephine_CoT: is there something you aren't telling us? | 17:35 |
| Josephine_CoT | pleia2, LOL | 17:36 |
| Josephine_CoT | the perils of signing on freenode for both linux and reddit stuff. | 17:37 |
| pleia2 | :) | 17:37 |
| Josephine_CoT | Inside joke in reddit-philadelphia. Guys keep signing on looking for girls, so a few of us decided to run interference | 17:37 |
| pleia2 | haha | 17:37 |
| teddy-dbear | the bear wants pictures of Josephine_CoT in a dress ;-) | 17:46 |
| Josephine_CoT | LOL | 17:46 |
| === Josephine_CoT is now known as Joe_CoT | ||
| ChinnoDog | test | 19:00 |
| waltman | fail | 19:01 |
| ChinnoDog | :-( | 19:02 |
| MutantTurkey | subwoofer might be okay! I am hoping so. | 19:30 |
| MutantTurkey | This week will constitue a dramatic change in the running of my household. additional troops are being sent to gaurd the borders and to protect ourselves from invasion of the FLOOD forces. | 19:31 |
| MutantTurkey | the GOP has decided to pass the newest bill dubbed the "waterfront protection act" to help the nation become effective in PREVENTING and rapidly aiding sectors in need. | 19:32 |
| MutantTurkey | we NEED to pass this bill | 19:32 |
| MutantTurkey | I reiterate, we NEED to pass this bil.. | 19:32 |
| MutantTurkey | thank you, goodnight. | 19:32 |
| ChinnoDog | gobble gobble | 19:35 |
| MutantTurkey | ChinnoDog: you are barking up the wrong tree | 19:47 |
| MutantTurkey | just tuck your tail and run | 19:48 |
| MutantTurkey | Hey someone is ringing the door bell! | 19:48 |
| MutantTurkey | you've got really bad dog-breath | 19:48 |
| * TheEvilPhoenix walks in carrying a map, a phone, a computer, and a blackberry smartphone | 19:48 | |
| MutantTurkey | TheEvilPhoenix: the ironic part is that they all can serve as a navigation device. | 19:48 |
| TheEvilPhoenix | MutantTurkey: the serious part is that i'm at PEMA tracking the storms in PA and the flooding and what not | 19:49 |
| TheEvilPhoenix | so all this gear has a purpose | 19:49 |
| MutantTurkey | Pennsylvania Emergency M___ A____? | 19:49 |
| TheEvilPhoenix | management agency | 19:50 |
| TheEvilPhoenix | central PA hq | 19:50 |
| TheEvilPhoenix | what with the EOCs at Level I (Disaster Conditions), its a secured building :P | 19:50 |
| MutantTurkey | I see. | 19:50 |
| MutantTurkey | is it G - classfied? | 19:52 |
| TheEvilPhoenix | go read the news, you'd see its not | 19:52 |
| TheEvilPhoenix | gov just was on TV | 19:52 |
| MutantTurkey | bad rush hour joke... | 19:52 |
| MutantTurkey | I don't have a telly | 19:53 |
| HowdyDoody | how to tell which linux / ubuntu version I am running ? | 20:03 |
| pleia2 | for ubuntu, cat /etc/lsb-release | 20:05 |
| jedijf | lsb_release -a | 20:05 |
| pleia2 | yeah, that too | 20:05 |
| jedijf | cat /proc/version | 20:06 |
| jedijf | that too | 20:06 |
| HowdyDoody | how to find 2.6.38.09 or whatever | 20:06 |
| MutantTurkey | uname -a | 20:06 |
| MutantTurkey | isn't that it | 20:06 |
| HowdyDoody | ok | 20:06 |
| MutantTurkey | uname -a | 20:06 |
| pleia2 | yeah, that's how to find the kernel version | 20:07 |
| jedijf | uname -a will work too | 20:07 |
| MutantTurkey | pleia2: does ubuntu actually have it's own command for that? | 20:07 |
| jedijf | rmg knows clicky way | 20:07 |
| MutantTurkey | I have no seen the lsb.. anywhere else? | 20:07 |
| MutantTurkey | well actually now that I think about it, arch isn't versioned... | 20:07 |
| pleia2 | lsb is not uncommon | 20:07 |
| pleia2 | ubuntu just comes with it by default and uses it | 20:07 |
| MutantTurkey | hmmm I wonder what provides it. | 20:07 |
| pleia2 | lsb - Linux Standard Base 3.2 support package | 20:08 |
| pleia2 | ^^ on my debian system | 20:08 |
| MutantTurkey | let me try and sync it | 20:08 |
| pleia2 | but it's not used by default in debian | 20:08 |
| MutantTurkey | don't have it weird | 20:08 |
| pleia2 | ii lsb-release 4.0-0ubuntu11 Linux Standard Base version reporting utility | 20:08 |
| pleia2 | in ubuntu 11.04 | 20:08 |
| MutantTurkey | anyway that's actually quite usful. | 20:09 |
| HowdyDoody | I've rebooted and my system lost Unity and reverted to older interface/desktop. BUT it IS 11.04 | 20:09 |
| pleia2 | HowdyDoody: it'll do that if it has trouble loading Unity | 20:09 |
| MutantTurkey | somethign about hardware detection... | 20:09 |
| HowdyDoody | Is there a switch to flic it back ? | 20:09 |
| pleia2 | HowdyDoody: when you log in you can select which session to use | 20:09 |
| HowdyDoody | I'll check ... | 20:10 |
| HowdyDoody | I see ubuntu, ubuntu classic, ubuntu safe mode, etc. No UNITY mentions. | 20:12 |
| MutantTurkey | wouldn't ubuntu (being the default) be unity *also the default* | 20:12 |
| pleia2 | yep, ubuntu | 20:13 |
| HowdyDoody | Seems to be the default selection. I'll try it but I thought I was in default. | 20:13 |
| pleia2 | again, if there are any problems with your graphics card or configuration it will fail back to classic | 20:13 |
| pleia2 | so if selecting "ubuntu" puts you into classic something is broken | 20:14 |
| HowdyDoody | Nope, just plain vanilla | 20:14 |
| HowdyDoody | My fan died on the monitor card. I finally drilled a hole and oiled it. Now working again. | 20:14 |
| jedijf | [jimf@arch_desktop ~]$ cat /proc/version | 20:15 |
| jedijf | Linux version 3.0-ARCH (thomas@evey) (gcc version 4.6.1 (GCC) ) #1 SMP PREEMPT Sat Aug 6 16:18:35 CEST 2011 | 20:15 |
| jedijf | [jimf@arch_desktop ~]$ uname -a | 20:15 |
| jedijf | Linux arch_desktop 3.0-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Sat Aug 6 16:18:35 CEST 2011 x86_64 Intel(R) Pentium(R) CPU E5700 @ 3.00GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux | 20:15 |
| jedijf | MutantTurkey: yeah no lsb package by default | 20:15 |
| MutantTurkey | hurmmm | 20:15 |
| MutantTurkey | Linux home 3.0-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Tue Aug 30 08:53:25 CEST 2011 x86_64 Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU 330 @ 1.60GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux | 20:16 |
| jedijf | [jimf@arch_desktop ~]$ pacman -Ss lsb | 20:16 |
| jedijf | community/lsb-release 1.4-10 LSB version query program | 20:16 |
| MutantTurkey | ah very counter intuitively named. | 20:16 |
| MutantTurkey | wonder who maintains it. | 20:16 |
| HowdyDoody | How to UNDO this unity reversal of default | 20:17 |
| MutantTurkey | probably falconindy lol. | 20:17 |
| jedijf | HowdyDoody: log out. from seesion switcher choose Ubuntu. | 20:19 |
| jedijf | session | 20:19 |
| jedijf | or try a shutdown and restart, to see if your drilling for oil job worked and the card is recognized | 20:20 |
| HowdyDoody | I did log out and choose unbuntu (plain) no classic or such. Gave me classic. Used to be untiy was default. | 20:21 |
| HowdyDoody | This is 5th boot up. | 20:21 |
| jedijf | no unity for you | 20:21 |
| HowdyDoody | Used to be fine | 20:22 |
| MutantTurkey | HowdyDoody: can you override it by deleting conf files? | 20:22 |
| jedijf | this is the future | 20:22 |
| HowdyDoody | It sees my Dell 22" monitor just fine. | 20:22 |
| MutantTurkey | how do they decide on the session? | 20:22 |
| MutantTurkey | somewhere hidden in the gconf2 hell | 20:22 |
| jedijf | not monitor graphics adapter | 20:22 |
| MutantTurkey | its looking for your Graphics Adapter | 20:23 |
| MutantTurkey | jedijf: how is the randr support with unity? | 20:23 |
| jedijf | xrandr is the way to go iirc | 20:24 |
| jedijf | 1104 is home | 20:24 |
| jedijf | i am in office.....11.04 is only on my netty | 20:24 |
| jedijf | HowdyDoody: lspci and google which module you /should/ use then lsmod and see which it is using and go from there | 20:26 |
| MutantTurkey | I meant, how is the xrandr support | 20:26 |
| MutantTurkey | is there a nice dialog or anything? | 20:26 |
| jedijf | no | 20:26 |
| MutantTurkey | :| | 20:26 |
| MutantTurkey | remember Trinity i keep mentioning? | 20:26 |
| MutantTurkey | we just got awesome xrandr support, I am really excited to see what people make of it. | 20:26 |
| jedijf | VGA connected 1280x1024+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 320mm x 240mm 1280x1024 60.0* | 20:27 |
| jedijf | more than that? | 20:27 |
| jedijf | or were you expecting hand holding | 20:27 |
| jedijf | like, your card is lame...please upgrade card to experience unity | 20:28 |
| jedijf | thanks, mark s | 20:28 |
| MutantTurkey | jedijf: confused. | 20:28 |
| MutantTurkey | we have a k control module that adds really easily workable xrandr support | 20:28 |
| jedijf | well for HowdyDoody ; if nothing really changed hardwarewise, i can only surmise wrong module installed | 20:29 |
| jedijf | or do you have any water in basement, put desktop in water and see if unity loads | 20:31 |
| jedijf | reverse flood damage | 20:31 |
| MutantTurkey | I can confirm positive results. | 20:34 |
| jedijf | dpkg -l | grep unity | 20:35 |
| jedijf | he was deleting stuff earlier in the day | 20:36 |
| HowdyDoody | tried booting with ubuntu choice, then user defined --- both gave classic | 20:36 |
| jedijf | dpkg -l | grep unity | 20:36 |
| jedijf | HowdyDoody: waht does ^^^ output? | 20:36 |
| HowdyDoody | is that - letter ell ? | 20:36 |
| jedijf | oy vey | 20:37 |
| HowdyDoody | ok off to try | 20:37 |
| jedijf | do this, this should fix all sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop | 20:38 |
| HowdyDoody | a bunch of stuff highest # seen 3.8.16 2 places | 20:39 |
| HowdyDoody | Install desktop on top of what ever is already there ? No UNinstall first ? | 20:41 |
| jedijf | reinstall if it makes you feel better | 20:42 |
| jedijf | sudo aptitude reinstall ubuntu-desktop | 20:42 |
| HowdyDoody | rebooted from power off, selected 'ubuntu' session and logged in | 20:57 |
| HowdyDoody | Got classic still | 20:58 |
| jedijf | driver issue then if it worked previously | 20:58 |
| jedijf | cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | 21:00 |
| jedijf | for clues | 21:00 |
| HowdyDoody | I tried switching to kde, but went black with mouse arrow. "building desktop search" it said briefly. | 21:02 |
| MutantTurkey | yeah.. I have had a bunch of problems with kdes file searching thinger | 21:03 |
| HowdyDoody | may have long wait to get to logs | 21:03 |
| MutantTurkey | it just cycles my cpu like a beast. | 21:03 |
| HowdyDoody | didn't give option to skip either | 21:04 |
| HowdyDoody | I'll go do other things. Maybe something will happen when I don't watch. | 21:05 |
| jedijf | or now's the time to try lubuntu-desktop ! | 21:05 |
| MutantTurkey | how is lubuntu | 21:12 |
| MutantTurkey | is it still just openbox + a few disjointed apps slapped together and a panel? | 21:12 |
| MutantTurkey | or is it legit? | 21:12 |
| MutantTurkey | I got a very much of a "just openbox, a desktop, and a panel. all very seperated | 21:12 |
| MutantTurkey | kind of a feel | 21:12 |
| MutantTurkey | that was maybe 2 years ago | 21:12 |
| ChinnoDog | I noticed there still isn't a PennBot | 21:28 |
| jedijf | MutantTurkey: same, it's been that long for me | 21:28 |
| pleia2 | there is a known vulnerability with supybots that was causing it to eat all the CPU, I don't really want supybots running on that server anyway (on good days they use too much ram) | 21:29 |
| MutantTurkey | supybot hmmm | 21:33 |
| MutantTurkey | I work with one team that uses mozbot and I find it terrible. | 21:34 |
| MutantTurkey | i always though supybot was good. | 21:34 |
| MutantTurkey | maybe thats just because the logs are lightyears head of mozbots log system... | 21:34 |
| MutantTurkey | one thing about unity I am really jelly is the top bar integration, I've been trying to get top bar integration for ages and its just a pain in the arse with gtk patches that don't work | 21:35 |
| jedijf | supy_hate-- | 21:40 |
| jedijf | jimf 12943 0.0 0.6 50268 13732 pts/2 S+ Aug14 31:10 /usr/bin/python /usr/local/bin/supybot PacsBot.conf | 21:41 |
| Joe_CoT | pleia2, is supybot no longer developed? why hasn't the vulnerability been fixed? | 21:58 |
| pleia2 | Joe_CoT: it's fixed in a patch in git, but all the versions in ubuntu, etc are broken | 21:58 |
| pleia2 | http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/09/09/%23ubuntu-irc.html#t19:28 | 21:59 |
| ChinnoDog | gobble gobble | 22:30 |
| MutantTurkey | you're barking up the wrong tree | 22:31 |
| MutantTurkey | tuck your tail and run | 22:31 |
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