[01:15] waltman: yes, the tomtom gps mini size for mini price. [01:16] Great for son who is map challenged, but don't wanna spend much $$ for that. [01:16] navigation's my superpower. I don't want one of those things. [01:18] waltman: sleeping in flooded basement puddles DOES save travel time and avoids the sandy grit after the beach trip. BUT no comparison to boogie boarding. [01:19] Yes, I had 1" a bit more than Irene put in my basement. [01:21] * TheEvilPhoenix walks in with updated info regarding the conditions in Wilkes Barre and Harrisburg [01:21] yes, PEMA briefs are boring [01:21] but informative :P [01:21] and i greet thee [01:26] InHisName: hopefully you're nice and dry :P [01:30] mr`zilla: Biblical flooding 40 days x 24 hr x 60 min 24x7 ---- rain 29,800 ft x 12in/ft comes out to approx 6" per minute rain fall. Did someone get that HEAVY of a rain fall ? [01:31] .. [01:33] * TheEvilPhoenix yells randomly [01:34] WOOHOOOoo [01:34] TheEvilPhoenix: Yes, my basement is getting drier as it goes. Humidity shot up over 70% on dehumidifier. Now its below 60%. The floor is getting drier as time goes by. [01:34] my basement is borked. [01:34] MutantTurkey: where are ya in the state? [01:34] but I put the A/C on and unattached all my vents, so the air is all going into the basement. seems affective [01:34] Got out a wet-vac and the puddles disappeared very quickly. [01:35] TheEvilPhoenix: Phily Suburbs [01:35] ah [01:35] be glad you arent in harrisburg or wilkes berre [01:35] I am not glad [01:35] I would rather have legitimate flooding, have flood insurance, and then get my stuff back. [01:35] here they are just laughing at me. [01:41] I didn't buy the optional flood insurance for rental property in Fla. MutantTurkey [01:44] They wanted $350/yr and I got quote from repair guys to 'replace' drywall wetted by flood of bottom 4" in house - $3500 and included new carpets, same tile, parquet floor repaired. I presented a hypethetical problem. I was in the 100+ to 500 year flood zone (optional) [01:44] No way was I expecting to do a flood claim EVERY 10 years. [01:45] So in last 25 years I have had $0 in flood damages to claim on insurance I did NOT buy. [01:47] Sooooo, I saved at least $10,500 and would have had $0 claims, I WIN !!! [02:24] * InHisName says good nite you all. [03:50] InHisName: Er, was just comedic exaggeration. [08:01] Good morning everybody !!! [09:35] morning [09:41] Morning. [10:13] Morning rmg51 & JonathanD [10:16] o/ [11:10] top of the morning to ya folks [11:27] o/ [11:27] bye [11:27] time to head to work [11:43] ChinnoDog: check out woot.com eink and tablet [11:56] I saw that. [11:56] But not sure how good it is :/ [12:16] morning [13:11] they mentioned eink doesn't have their estore or other offerings running anymore. So must be an obsolete product already. === InHisName1 is now known as HowdyDoody [15:36] Arrrggghhh, I uninstalled vbox, linux-headers, and dkms, then rebooted. Now garbage on screen. Seems stuck. [15:37] Now in recovery mode. Not sure which way to turn. Did pkg recovery. Nothing that I could tell changed. What next from recovery? [15:37] * TheEvilPhoenix sighs [15:38] yet another day at PEMA [15:38] >.> [15:39] Ok, tried resume, and got to assign password for ???, then logged in. Text prompt. [15:39] What to look for to fix. [17:01] Now it boots to showing hdd and press any key to continue and continues without pressing any. Changes graphics scale for 5 seconds then NO MONITOR signal and everything stays dead. No grub no nutthin'. I guess its live CD time. But what to look for and fix to at least boot grub etc.? [17:14] sounds like you have a uberfailed system === Joe_CoT is now known as Josephine_CoT [17:35] Josephine_CoT: is there something you aren't telling us? [17:36] pleia2, LOL [17:37] the perils of signing on freenode for both linux and reddit stuff. [17:37] :) [17:37] Inside joke in reddit-philadelphia. Guys keep signing on looking for girls, so a few of us decided to run interference [17:37] haha [17:46] the bear wants pictures of Josephine_CoT in a dress ;-) [17:46] LOL === Josephine_CoT is now known as Joe_CoT [19:00] test [19:01] fail [19:02] :-( [19:30] subwoofer might be okay! I am hoping so. [19:31] This week will constitue a dramatic change in the running of my household. additional troops are being sent to gaurd the borders and to protect ourselves from invasion of the FLOOD forces. [19:32] the GOP has decided to pass the newest bill dubbed the "waterfront protection act" to help the nation become effective in PREVENTING and rapidly aiding sectors in need. [19:32] we NEED to pass this bill [19:32] I reiterate, we NEED to pass this bil.. [19:32] thank you, goodnight. [19:35] gobble gobble [19:47] ChinnoDog: you are barking up the wrong tree [19:48] just tuck your tail and run [19:48] Hey someone is ringing the door bell! [19:48] you've got really bad dog-breath [19:48] * TheEvilPhoenix walks in carrying a map, a phone, a computer, and a blackberry smartphone [19:48] TheEvilPhoenix: the ironic part is that they all can serve as a navigation device. [19:49] MutantTurkey: the serious part is that i'm at PEMA tracking the storms in PA and the flooding and what not [19:49] so all this gear has a purpose [19:49] Pennsylvania Emergency M___ A____? [19:50] management agency [19:50] central PA hq [19:50] what with the EOCs at Level I (Disaster Conditions), its a secured building :P [19:50] I see. [19:52] is it G - classfied? [19:52] go read the news, you'd see its not [19:52] gov just was on TV [19:52] bad rush hour joke... [19:53] I don't have a telly [20:03] how to tell which linux / ubuntu version I am running ? [20:05] for ubuntu, cat /etc/lsb-release [20:05] lsb_release -a [20:05] yeah, that too [20:06] cat /proc/version [20:06] that too [20:06] how to find 2.6.38.09 or whatever [20:06] uname -a [20:06] isn't that it [20:06] ok [20:06] uname -a [20:07] yeah, that's how to find the kernel version [20:07] uname -a will work too [20:07] pleia2: does ubuntu actually have it's own command for that? [20:07] rmg knows clicky way [20:07] I have no seen the lsb.. anywhere else? [20:07] well actually now that I think about it, arch isn't versioned... [20:07] lsb is not uncommon [20:07] ubuntu just comes with it by default and uses it [20:07] hmmm I wonder what provides it. [20:08] lsb - Linux Standard Base 3.2 support package [20:08] ^^ on my debian system [20:08] let me try and sync it [20:08] but it's not used by default in debian [20:08] don't have it weird [20:08] ii lsb-release 4.0-0ubuntu11 Linux Standard Base version reporting utility [20:08] in ubuntu 11.04 [20:09] anyway that's actually quite usful. [20:09] I've rebooted and my system lost Unity and reverted to older interface/desktop. BUT it IS 11.04 [20:09] HowdyDoody: it'll do that if it has trouble loading Unity [20:09] somethign about hardware detection... [20:09] Is there a switch to flic it back ? [20:09] HowdyDoody: when you log in you can select which session to use [20:10] I'll check ... [20:12] I see ubuntu, ubuntu classic, ubuntu safe mode, etc. No UNITY mentions. [20:12] wouldn't ubuntu (being the default) be unity *also the default* [20:13] yep, ubuntu [20:13] Seems to be the default selection. I'll try it but I thought I was in default. [20:13] again, if there are any problems with your graphics card or configuration it will fail back to classic [20:14] so if selecting "ubuntu" puts you into classic something is broken [20:14] Nope, just plain vanilla [20:14] My fan died on the monitor card. I finally drilled a hole and oiled it. Now working again. [20:15] [jimf@arch_desktop ~]$ cat /proc/version [20:15] Linux version 3.0-ARCH (thomas@evey) (gcc version 4.6.1 (GCC) ) #1 SMP PREEMPT Sat Aug 6 16:18:35 CEST 2011 [20:15] [jimf@arch_desktop ~]$ uname -a [20:15] Linux arch_desktop 3.0-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Sat Aug 6 16:18:35 CEST 2011 x86_64 Intel(R) Pentium(R) CPU E5700 @ 3.00GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux [20:15] MutantTurkey: yeah no lsb package by default [20:15] hurmmm [20:16] Linux home 3.0-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Tue Aug 30 08:53:25 CEST 2011 x86_64 Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU 330 @ 1.60GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux [20:16] [jimf@arch_desktop ~]$ pacman -Ss lsb [20:16] community/lsb-release 1.4-10 LSB version query program [20:16] ah very counter intuitively named. [20:16] wonder who maintains it. [20:17] How to UNDO this unity reversal of default [20:17] probably falconindy lol. [20:19] HowdyDoody: log out. from seesion switcher choose Ubuntu. [20:19] session [20:20] or try a shutdown and restart, to see if your drilling for oil job worked and the card is recognized [20:21] I did log out and choose unbuntu (plain) no classic or such. Gave me classic. Used to be untiy was default. [20:21] This is 5th boot up. [20:21] no unity for you [20:22] Used to be fine [20:22] HowdyDoody: can you override it by deleting conf files? [20:22] this is the future [20:22] It sees my Dell 22" monitor just fine. [20:22] how do they decide on the session? [20:22] somewhere hidden in the gconf2 hell [20:22] not monitor graphics adapter [20:23] its looking for your Graphics Adapter [20:23] jedijf: how is the randr support with unity? [20:24] xrandr is the way to go iirc [20:24] 1104 is home [20:24] i am in office.....11.04 is only on my netty [20:26] HowdyDoody: lspci and google which module you /should/ use then lsmod and see which it is using and go from there [20:26] I meant, how is the xrandr support [20:26] is there a nice dialog or anything? [20:26] no [20:26] :| [20:26] remember Trinity i keep mentioning? [20:26] we just got awesome xrandr support, I am really excited to see what people make of it. [20:27] VGA connected 1280x1024+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 320mm x 240mm 1280x1024 60.0* [20:27] more than that? [20:27] or were you expecting hand holding [20:28] like, your card is lame...please upgrade card to experience unity [20:28] thanks, mark s [20:28] jedijf: confused. [20:28] we have a k control module that adds really easily workable xrandr support [20:29] well for HowdyDoody ; if nothing really changed hardwarewise, i can only surmise wrong module installed [20:31] or do you have any water in basement, put desktop in water and see if unity loads [20:31] reverse flood damage [20:34] I can confirm positive results. [20:35] dpkg -l | grep unity [20:36] he was deleting stuff earlier in the day [20:36] tried booting with ubuntu choice, then user defined --- both gave classic [20:36] dpkg -l | grep unity [20:36] HowdyDoody: waht does ^^^ output? [20:36] is that - letter ell ? [20:37] oy vey [20:37] ok off to try [20:38] do this, this should fix all sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop [20:39] a bunch of stuff highest # seen 3.8.16 2 places [20:41] Install desktop on top of what ever is already there ? No UNinstall first ? [20:42] reinstall if it makes you feel better [20:42] sudo aptitude reinstall ubuntu-desktop [20:57] rebooted from power off, selected 'ubuntu' session and logged in [20:58] Got classic still [20:58] driver issue then if it worked previously [21:00] cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log [21:00] for clues [21:02] I tried switching to kde, but went black with mouse arrow. "building desktop search" it said briefly. [21:03] yeah.. I have had a bunch of problems with kdes file searching thinger [21:03] may have long wait to get to logs [21:03] it just cycles my cpu like a beast. [21:04] didn't give option to skip either [21:05] I'll go do other things. Maybe something will happen when I don't watch. [21:05] or now's the time to try lubuntu-desktop ! [21:12] how is lubuntu [21:12] is it still just openbox + a few disjointed apps slapped together and a panel? [21:12] or is it legit? [21:12] I got a very much of a "just openbox, a desktop, and a panel. all very seperated [21:12] kind of a feel [21:12] that was maybe 2 years ago [21:28] I noticed there still isn't a PennBot [21:28] MutantTurkey: same, it's been that long for me [21:29] there is a known vulnerability with supybots that was causing it to eat all the CPU, I don't really want supybots running on that server anyway (on good days they use too much ram) [21:33] supybot hmmm [21:34] I work with one team that uses mozbot and I find it terrible. [21:34] i always though supybot was good. [21:34] maybe thats just because the logs are lightyears head of mozbots log system... [21:35] one thing about unity I am really jelly is the top bar integration, I've been trying to get top bar integration for ages and its just a pain in the arse with gtk patches that don't work [21:40] supy_hate-- [21:41] jimf 12943 0.0 0.6 50268 13732 pts/2 S+ Aug14 31:10 /usr/bin/python /usr/local/bin/supybot PacsBot.conf [21:58] pleia2, is supybot no longer developed? why hasn't the vulnerability been fixed? [21:58] Joe_CoT: it's fixed in a patch in git, but all the versions in ubuntu, etc are broken [21:59] http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/09/09/%23ubuntu-irc.html#t19:28 [22:30] gobble gobble [22:31] you're barking up the wrong tree [22:31] tuck your tail and run