[00:00] <FluffyMittensOfD> escott, Can you point me in the right direction please.
[00:00] <thomasj73> Woohoo!  got E17 desktop env working with wifi.. :) No to load KDE so I can convince the wife the Natty+KDE >= Windows!
[00:00] <thomasj73> s/no/now
[00:00] <escott> FluffyMittensOfD, #backtrack-linux apparently it is similar enough to ubuntu that their people end up in here
[00:00] <sam555> escott:  someone ran an fsck and can't find the log of what is actually wrong with the hdd
[00:01] <sam555> i'm trying to locat the log for such information
[00:01] <kingofswords> hi how do i run a .sh file?
[00:01] <exutux> FluffyMittensOfD: ask in #madwifi
[00:01] <kingofswords> do i have to make it executble?
[00:01] <thomasj73> I figure once I get her used to KDE I'll hit her up with Unity :D
[00:01] <dr_willis> kingofswords:  one way   sh foo.sh   or chmod+x foo.sh  then ./foo.sh
[00:01] <FluffyMittensOfD> exutux, I already have.
[00:01] <dr_willis> kingofswords:  chmod +x foo.sh  then ./foo.sh
[00:01] <kingofswords> dr_willis, thanks
[00:02] <escott> sam555, its unclear what you mean by "log" there is a filesystem log which is part of ext3 and ext4 and it will be recovered if there is a unclean umount, but that is done by fsck. if you want to know if the drive is failing look at the smart status in the disk utility or use smartmon-tools
[00:02] <dr_willis> kingofswords:  dare we ask what this script is doing? :)
[00:02] <kingofswords> dr_willis, do i have to add the path aswell?
[00:02] <Mneumonic> Hi, I have a weird issue.  About halfway through booting my laptop screen dims to 0 brightness and i have to manually use the Fn keys to raise brightness back up.  I know I was able to fix this last time i reinstalled by having some command start at boot that put brightness at max but i dont remember what it is
[00:02] <kingofswords> dr_willis, veetle player
[00:02] <dr_willis> kingofswords:   ./foo.sh   -> is giving the full path..  so in this example no.
[00:02] <dr_willis>  /path/to/whatever/foo.sh
[00:02] <escott> Mneumonic, the command will echo an integer to /sys/something/backlight/brightness
[00:03] <battlehands> Im running the latest 32 bit version of ubuntu, and the bar that has things like: firefox, folder, ubuntu software center, ect... will not hide when Im not mousing over it.  This problem has only been happening today.  Before today, when I wasnt mousing over the bar it would automatically hide.  Can someone help me?
[00:03] <Moruzsa> I'm hating these scroll bars in the 11.04 UI. Can I alter that easily?
[00:03] <exutux> FluffyMittensOfD: there is a wiki too https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Madwifi?highlight=%28ManufacturerModel%29
[00:03] <sam555> escott: is there a way in the shell to run this disk utility?
[00:03] <dr_willis> battlehands:   You mean the left side Unity Panel?
[00:03] <sdk__> Hi folks.
[00:03] <escott> Mneumonic, /sys/class/backlight
[00:03] <ZombieRamen> i'm having problems encoding a file i made in glc, as described here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1828513
[00:03] <sam555> escott: I thought that under /var/log there would be a log of the fsck
[00:03] <Mneumonic> that doesn't work
[00:04] <escott> sam555, fsck is not logged, it is an interactive process
[00:04] <Mneumonic> it does hte command but doesn't adjust the brightness
[00:04] <dr_willis> Moruzsa:  check out  http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/things-to-tweak-fix-after-installing.html
[00:04] <battlehands> dr_willis, i think so
[00:04] <escott> sam555, so in terminal fsck /dev/sdX# replacing X# as appropriate sda1 or sdb2 etc
[00:04] <Mneumonic> it was an echo command but i can't seem to find the right one
[00:04] <Mneumonic> I thougth it was like /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video/brightness
[00:05] <Mneumonic> i have two folders in backlight called acpi_video0 and acpi_video1
[00:05] <Mneumonic> both have a brigthness in them and i tried both but the terminal says permission denied
[00:05] <FluffyMittensOfD> exutux, I'm aware. I'm confused on what I need to do. There is more documentation to drown in then getting it installed
[00:05] <dr_willis> battlehands:  its known to be a bit buggy.  the compiz 'ccsm' tool has a plugin with settings to tweak its autohide/hide/nothide settings. - I set it to never hide myself.  you could try  the differnt settings and it may start working.
[00:05] <sam555> escott: Can I run fsck while people are using the server?
[00:05] <escott> Mneumonic, echo 99 > /sys/class/.... as identified, just be sure to do it inside a sudo -i terminal
[00:05] <escott> sam555, not if the partition is mounted
[00:05] <sam555> i see, thanks for the help!!!
[00:06] <dr_willis> battlehands:  or you can reset thepanel back to defaults ->  'unity --reset' or 'unity --reset-icons'
[00:06] <battlehands> dr_willis, in terminal?
[00:06] <dr_willis> battlehands:  where else you going to type in such a command? :) yes in a termianl..
[00:06] <Mneumonic> perfect now where do i put it to have it do it in startup
[00:06] <battlehands> dr_willis, that command not found
[00:06] <dr_willis> battlehands:  which command...
[00:06] <Moruzsa> dr_willis, I just found that link right before you posted it
[00:06] <ben_stein> dr_willis, you're always here, do you have a day job man ? : ) dr. stein (md)
[00:07] <escott> Mneumonic, rc.local
[00:07] <battlehands> dr_willis, unit--reset
[00:07] <T0X|C> where is the firewall configuration in ubuntu?
[00:07] <Mneumonic> thank you so much!
[00:07] <dr_willis> ben_stein:  when im at work (on third shift) i got my android phone.
[00:07] <T0X|C> and se linux
[00:07] <escott> Mneumonic, and you dont have to worry about sudo for rc.local
[00:07] <Mneumonic> where is that
[00:07] <dr_willis> battlehands:   if thats the exact command you used.. you spelt it wrong..
[00:07] <escott> !ufw | T0X|C
[00:07] <ben_stein> dr_willis, hardcore
[00:07] <battlehands> dr_willis, that worked.  thanks
[00:07] <dr_willis> ben_stein:  :)
[00:08] <Mneumonic> found it
[00:08] <T0X|C> escott, thanks
[00:08] <exutux> Mneumonic: you can use xgamma too
[00:09] <sam555> how does one list the partitions in ubuntu?
[00:09] <sam555> fdisk ?
[00:09] <escott> sam555, cat /proc/partitions is better
[00:10] <sam555> escott: thanks again!
[00:10] <sdk__> Fdisk -l should do as well :)
[00:10] <FluffyMittensOfD> ...Alright, well. No help on installing, telling me to go download another flavor when I have a cruddy 30kb connection. Thankyou ubuntu asshats
[00:10] <escott> sdk__, unless its a gpt disk
[00:10] <IdleOne> !language | FluffyMittensOfD
[00:12] <sdk__> Most of the proc stuffs are not meant to be used directly rather through code
[00:12] <FluffyMittensOfD> It's not like I've been downloading this for DAYS and you go and tell me to go somewhere else.
[00:13] <ben_stein> lets joll with the owns ek sa
[00:13] <sdk__> Gpt?
[00:13] <escott> FluffyMittensOfD, we wish you all success in your potentially illegal activity. we just don't want it discussed here
[00:13] <Spaceman> cd4046
[00:14] <escott> sdk__, disks larger than 3TB use a different partition scheme that fdisk doesn't support, so its better to use /proc/partitions where the kernel identifies the partition table and contents
[00:14] <FluffyMittensOfD> escott, no illegal activity, just trying to learn more about this crap.
[00:14] <RB2_notebook> In a multi-boot Win/Linux system, is grub installed to the first drive on the controller or to the linux drive?
[00:14] <sdk__> Ahh ok
[00:15] <escott> RB2_notebook, to the mbr of the drive that has the /boot partition generally
[00:16] <escott> RB2_notebook, in multidisk systems i recommend manually installing grub to both mbrs and then you dont have to worry about boot order
[00:16] <c4pt> hi i installed ubuntu to a hardware raid0 stripe i told ubuntu installer to install grub to /dev/mapper/Volume0 (which is my ext4 / ) but it fails how can i get grub or grub2 installed onto my newly installed system?
[00:16] <Ruler69> I just installed the ubuntu download on  my windows 7 pc and my screen went blank, can anybody help
[00:16] <sam555> what's the command to have fsck run at the computer is booting up?
[00:17] <sam555> i want to be able to run fsck on unmounted partitions
[00:17] <exutux> sam555: sudo touch /forcefsck
[00:17] <sam555> exutux: thansk!
[00:18] <FluffyMittensOfD> ok. fuck this cya
[00:18] <zHammeRz> lol
[00:18] <escott> c4pt, is this fakeraid/biosraid?
[00:18] <IdleOne> later
[00:18] <c4pt> escott, well im using physical raid with my onboard controller but ubuntu detects the raid0 as dmraid
[00:18] <c4pt> escott, i thinks its intel storage array raid
[00:19] <c4pt> *i think
[00:19] <RB2_notebook> escott, thanks.. total confusion is raining because my bios is uefi, but the drives are set to AHCI and it's refusing to install correctly no matter what I do
[00:19] <escott> c4pt, intel is fakeraid. im not sure what you might need to do to get things working, but google around for fakeraid
[00:19] <c4pt> escott, ok
[00:19] <c4pt> thanx
[00:20] <escott> RB2_notebook, exciting. im afraid i don't know much about Uefi
[00:20] <RB2_notebook> escott, at this point, I wish it wasn't in the picture. lol
[00:21] <RB2_notebook> The motherboard supports legacy mbr, but nothing is agreeable at the moment. hehe
[00:22] <gizmobay> I'm trying to convert a pdf to a png with the convert command. I'm trying to keep the quality high. What value should I put for the -quality switch?
[00:23] <RB2_notebook> escott, actually, that's not completely true.. when I boot, I get grub.. but just an error 15. None of the instructions on fixing that error seem to have helped. I guess I'm just assuming it's related to the uefi. Perhaps it's not
[00:24] <crowin1> hi ho do i log in as root?
[00:24] <crowin1> xubuntu
[00:24] <gizmobay> nevermind, i just read the pdf into gimp
[00:24] <crowin1> how do i log on as root
[00:25] <kld2054> HI
[00:25] <crowin1> hi
[00:25] <kld2054> AM USING THE HAWAI DINGEL
[00:25] <kld2054> SRY DONGEL
[00:25] <kld2054> and
[00:25] <crowin1> anyone here know how to log on as root please
[00:25] <kld2054> i
[00:25] <kld2054> sry i dont know
[00:25] <kld2054> am new here
[00:26] <crowin1> thats cool
[00:26] <kld2054> i just today instaled this os
[00:26] <crowin1> me too
[00:26] <exutux> !root | crowin1
[00:26] <kld2054> ubottu
[00:26] <crowin1> yes but sudo wont help me
[00:26] <exutux> crowin1: for what?
[00:26] <crowin1> i need to change some files and cannot access unless i am root
[00:27] <exutux> crowin1: use sudo
[00:27] <exutux> you can do it
[00:27] <crowin1> i am trying to write my interfaces file for networks
[00:27] <robin0800_> crowin1, gksudo gedit
[00:28] <crowin1> ill try
[00:28] <crowin1> that
[00:28] <exutux> crowin1: xubuntu?
[00:28] <crowin1> yes cant gedit lol
[00:28] <crowin1> xubuntu
[00:28] <exutux> I don't remember which editor xubuntu does use!!
[00:29] <mephist0> sharing networking tutorials say nothing about starting firesrarter then allowing connections from host
[00:29] <anadon> how to I get apt-get to retrieve the source for all installed packages?
[00:29] <exutux> crowin1: which is??
[00:30] <mephist0> and ubuntu admins doesnt allow me to edit. even to comment on threads
[00:30] <exutux> crowin1: mousepad!
[00:30] <ek> I got an answer from someone here before that worked and I can't remember (or find) what it was for the life of me...
[00:30] <exutux> crowin1: gksudo mousepad /etc/network/interfaces
[00:31] <kld2054> hhi
[00:31] <kld2054> i want to add the mobile broadband to my connection can you help me
[00:31] <ek> So, anyone know how to get a VIA Technologies, Inc. VT1708/A [Azalia HDAC] sound card to work in Ubuntu (11.04)?
[00:31] <crowin1> cannot open folder to access file
[00:32] <exutux> crowin1: *sudo
[00:32] <robin0800_> crowin1, did it prompt for password?
[00:33] <ek> I thought I remembered there being something added to the boot line in the loader. But, I've tried everything I've found online and nothing has worked thus far.
[00:33] <exutux> sudo mousepad /etc/network/interfaces
[00:33] <dr_willis> ek:  it may be mentioned at askubuntu.com or in the forums.
[00:34] <ek> dr_willis: Yup. Mentioned many times. All kinds of different things to try. Nothing has worked.
[00:34] <ek> I was just curious if anyone here was using the same card/driver and knew off the top of their head how they got it working.
[00:35] <crowin1> restarting thanks guys hope it works
[00:38] <ben_stein> is there an easy way to recover email deleted from mut (/var/spool/mail/stein)
[00:38] <ben_stein> ?
[00:38] <ben_stein> mutt
[00:40] <crowin11> man this is so frustrating, i thought windows was bad
[00:40] <dr_willis> You dont want to get me started on my windows horror stories..
[00:40] <crowin11> i cannot for the life of me get this stupid wifi to work
[00:40] <ben_stein> crowin11 ms is crap, linux is...heaven
[00:40] <crowin11> whatever, keep telling yourself that
[00:40] <rww> let's not bash other operating systems, please :)
[00:41]  * dr_willis has missed the actual ubuntu support issue
[00:41] <ben_stein> crowin11 i work for doctors without borders and manage to connect to the internet even in third world countries, as i am doing right now
[00:41] <rww> dr_willis: broken wifi
[00:41] <ben_stein> with a cdma connection
[00:41] <crowin11> i have searched the world over trying to find how to have a wireless connection and have found loads of things to try to no avail
[00:41] <ben_stein> so if you cannot connect with wifi you must be an idiot
[00:41] <dr_willis> no idea what cdma even is. :)
[00:41] <rww> ben_stein: That's not helpful.
[00:42] <crowin11> thanks yes im a bleddin idiot
[00:42] <IdleOne> Please get back to actual support.
[00:42] <crowin11> im too stupid to be helped
[00:42] <ben_stein> sometimes the gui utilities don't work, the command line items seem to be better
[00:42] <neil> I am having trouble connecting to a wired network (eth0) when the wifi (eth1) is going... route reports "192.168.2.0     *               255.255.255.0   U     1      0        0 eth0" .... ping says "Destination Host Unreachable" .... what is wrong?
[00:42] <rww> crowin11: please feel free to ignore problematic comments instead of taking them to heart
[00:42] <crowin11> wish i hD YOUR PROBLEM LOL
[00:43] <crowin11> so hard too ignore the truth, yes i am an idiot and no i cannot connect to my wireless router
[00:43] <ben_stein> crowin11 sometimes the gui utilities don't work, the command line items seem to be better
[00:44] <Guest> crowin11: *to
[00:44] <crowin11> honestly i have tried so much i am ready to give up and spend money on ms!!!
[00:44] <dr_willis> or spend $$ on a better supported wireless card?
[00:45] <ben_stein> for example, the network manager doesn't connect most cdma and 3g modems but if you use wvdial MOST will work fine with the correct settings
[00:45] <crowin11> not that i want to support them, its because i really want to move away from thisw table and wit in a comfy chair
[00:45] <th0r> crowin11: all I have heard from you since I arrived is whining. If you stated a problem clearly, maybe someone could help
[00:45] <Guest> crowin11: you cant get wireless working on Ubuntu?
[00:45] <dr_willis> so far the details ive seen are 'my cdma wireless is not working'   but i jus got back. :)
[00:45] <Guest> !ndiswrapper
[00:45] <DaVampsWin> ok guys, switching video cards from an ON board to a PCI slot video card, and the ubuntu log in isnt showing.
[00:45] <crowin11> no i cannot get wireless to work on xubuntu
[00:45] <ben_stein> dr_willis, no one said cdma wireless is not working
[00:46] <Guest> crowin11: this #ubuntu channel
[00:46] <Guest> join #xubuntu
[00:46] <dr_willis> someone mentioned cdma earlier..  but i think its time to start the question over from the beginning. :)
[00:46] <crowin11> yeah so isnt xubuntu ubuntu with a different gui?
[00:46] <crowin11> omk thanks
[00:46] <Guest> crowin11: it's a different distribution
[00:46] <crowin11> \aloha
[00:46] <dr_willis> xubuntu uses network-manager also dont it?
[00:46] <IdleOne> xubuntu is also supported here but yes maybe #xubuntu can be more help.
[00:46] <Guest> ok
[00:46] <dr_willis> all i really saw was someone wanting to edit a file.. :)
[00:47] <crowin11> too many trolls here anyway
[00:47] <Guest> please dont call other users "trolls"
[00:47] <Guest> ..
[00:47] <ben_stein> crowin11, who's a troll, all i see are people trying to help you
[00:47] <ben_stein> pff
[00:47] <dr_willis> :)
[00:49] <Guest> it's calm today
[00:50] <skpl_> cuz the air is on fire.
[00:50] <DaVampsWin> any know why ubuntu gives no screen after switching from an onboard video to a pci video card
[00:50] <skpl_> DaVampsWin, check your bios
[00:50] <DaVampsWin> skpl : bios is set to look for any type of card
[00:50] <skpl_> oh, nm then
[00:51] <DaVampsWin> made sure of that before booting straight in to ubuntu
[00:51] <sam555> is there a way to continue an e2fsck check if it finds an error?
[00:51] <dr_willis> DaVampsWin:  do you even see the grub menu/boot screens?
[00:52] <DaVampsWin> Dr_Willis : that's the last thing i see before the screen go black
[00:52] <sam555> also, can fsck be run on sda or sdb?
[00:52] <exutux> sam555: check it by a live cd
[00:52] <sam555> or is just about sda1 and sdb1
[00:53] <exutux> sda1
[00:53] <sam555> exutux: I"m running a live cd right now and it stopped at this one block, but I wanted to continue from the block without starting from the start
[00:53] <dr_willis> DaVampsWin:  get to the grub menu, edit teh boot line and change 'quiet splash' to be 'text'  to get to a console then check things out. or try 'noquiet nosplash'  and perhaps see some boot error messages
[00:53] <vfw> sam555: sda1 or sdb1  (you run it on partitions, not  drives)
[00:53] <crossedeyefreak> Hello. I would like to see a question answered
[00:53] <sam555> vfw: I see
[00:53] <dr_willis> DaVampsWin:  what was the video chipset befor? what is it now?
[00:53] <exutux> sam555: man fsck may help you using some options
[00:54] <DaVampsWin> dr_willis : started with an onboard i believe intel chip, now will be using an ati chip
[00:54] <sam555> exutux: gotcha
[00:54] <crossedeyefreak> But,, What happens is during install, on the configuring hardware part, it just COMPLETELY shuts down the computer.
[00:54] <dr_willis> DaVampsWin:  Get to the console, and install the ati drivers perhaps.
[00:54] <sam555> can you run fsck on the swap partition?
[00:54] <redheadcupcake> test?
[00:54] <vfw> sam555: I always use the -y switch
[00:54] <dr_willis> DaVampsWin:  or at least try 'startx' from console and look for error messages
[00:55] <vfw> sam555: no
[00:55] <DaVampsWin> dr_willis : apt-get install ati?
[00:55] <sam555> vfw: thanks
[00:56] <dr_willis> DaVampsWin:  i dont know the pacakge name,
[00:56] <gmachine_24> Hi. I'm using 10.04 and along the top horiz menu/task bar I am missing some things - e.g. 'preferences' 'administration' 'places' etc. All I have on the left side of the task bar, in fact is a Firefox logo and question mark.
[00:56] <dr_willis> apt-cache search flgrx perhaps...
[00:56] <exutux> !ati
[00:56] <DaVampsWin> dr_willis : no prob.. i'll see wht the console gives me for possible errpr
[00:57] <gmachine_24> I need to enable these features, please.
[00:58] <TBAY_JohnnyBlaze> worst upgrade ever
[00:58] <DaVampsWin> dr_willis : recovery mode will give me console access?
[00:58] <exutux> DaVampsWin: ctrl+alt+f2..3..n too
[00:58] <DaVampsWin> exutux "
[00:59] <dr_willis> DaVampsWin:  try it and see. i think so. i always remove that option form my grub menu. :)
[00:59] <dr_willis> DaVampsWin:  get to the grub menu, edit teh boot line and change 'quiet splash' to be 'text'  to get to a console then check things out. or try 'noquiet nosplash'  and perhaps see some boot error messages
[00:59] <dr_willis> or revovery mode :)
[00:59] <DaVampsWin> ,exutux : i'm at grub, ctrl + alt + f2 there?
[00:59] <overclucker> gmachine_24: find someempty space on the panel, and right click. select add to panel. select "Menu Bar". click Add.
[00:59] <exutux> you can edit it from there DaVampsWin
[01:00] <DaVampsWin> got the command line open now
[01:00] <DaVampsWin> which file do i need to open and edit the splash ?
[01:00] <exutux> sudo nano /etc/default/grub
[01:01] <gmachine_24> overclucker, thanks. I was going to do that but I thought I don't want to make things worse . . . ;) thanks
[01:01] <gmachine_24> oh hey, and look, a custom menu bar. :D
[01:01] <exutux> DaVampsWin: but I don't know what you trying to do...
[01:02] <hyperstream> Hello, im just wondering, after a few hours(random intervals) of the computer sitting idle(No power saving or screen savers etc) my network manager stops responding. My VPN List has several items in it, how ever it shows a blank window about 1px in height(No listings), if i hit the disconnect button to D/C from my wifi, it does nothing ~ Networking manger is not responding? This has happened for about a month. Is there a fix for this as of yet?
[01:02] <overclucker> gmachine_24: if you log in one day and find two menu bars, just right click and remove one.
[01:02] <DaVampsWin> exutux : i installed an older ATI video, after grub i get a black screen...
[01:02] <exutux> DaVampsWin: if you need to install drivers, you can do it from there without modify grub
[01:02] <gmachine_24> overclucker, right, I was just playing around with it and removed it and moved it to the side so all is well. Thanks again.
[01:02] <anonymous> cao
[01:02] <anonymous> waht
[01:03] <DaVampsWin> exutux : after press "c" at grub, its not even allowing me to use "sudo"
[01:03] <Guest86831> 几把
[01:03] <exutux> DaVampsWin: ??
[01:04] <exutux> DaVampsWin: boot normally and when you have a blank ( or black :) ) screen switch to tty with ctrl+alt+f2
[01:04] <hyperstream> How would i search a bug listing place for similar issues?
[01:04] <DaVampsWin> exutux : i know.. weird. but when i type the command "sudo nano /etc/default/grub" says unknown command "sudo"
[01:04] <exutux> :O
[01:04] <Guest86831> 鸟人
[01:04] <DaVampsWin> exutux : ok give me a sec
[01:05] <Guest86831> cao
[01:05] <coraxx> Guest86831: this is an english only chat :-)
[01:05] <exutux> DaVampsWin: maybe you have some other problems
[01:05] <Guest86831> english
[01:05] <Guest86831> bu hui
[01:06] <DaVampsWin> exutux was working fine before with the onboard bideo
[01:06] <dr_willis> DaVampsWin:  the GRUB shell is not bash...
[01:06] <DaVampsWin> video**
[01:06] <exutux> DaVampsWin: video card issue doesn't matter with sudo issue
[01:06] <dr_willis> DaVampsWin:  C at grub = the grub command line for grub commands..  you have not booted your actual os yet.
[01:06] <RB2_notebook> \o/ finally fixed grub
[01:07] <dr_willis> I think you hit 'e' at grub to edit the grub menu items.
[01:07] <sam555> what is the command with fdisk to show the size of each partition?
[01:08] <exutux> sudo fdisk -l
[01:09] <DaVampsWin> dr_willis : ok, here's what's happened so far. bios is set to read video whereever its connect. the tower has onboard and an older PCI ATI v.card
[01:10] <DaVampsWin> after booting pass grub i cant get a visual screen with ubuntu..
[01:10] <sam555> exutux: thanks!
[01:10] <exutux> I don't know why you need edit grub for to switch in consolle
[01:12] <DaVampsWin> please forgive my lack of knowledge as i'm only a new learner to ubuntu
[01:13] <dr_willis> DaVampsWin:  have you tried the recovery mode grub menu item yet to get to a console?
[01:13] <DaVampsWin> dr_willis : no let me try it now.
[01:13] <Lisimba> Is there a way to view everything in /usr/share/icons in one go? I occasionally want to pick an icon and going through them one by one is a bit of a pain, even when they show directly in the open file dialog.
[01:13] <qin> How to mute certain alsa-plugin? man pulseaudio looks foggy.
[01:16] <DaVampsWin> dr_willis : no luck with console thru recovery even with ctrl+atl+f2. go to black screen
[01:17] <dr_willis> DaVampsWin:  you could try the Nomodeset option.. check this url.
[01:17] <dr_willis> !nomodeset
[01:18] <dr_willis> DaVampsWin:  if nomodeset dosent give you a screen.. id try out some live cd's and see if any of them work.
[01:18] <sam555> i'm trying to recover a bad super block on a hdd.  Is this info still relevant from 2005? http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/surviving-a-linux-filesystem-failures.html
[01:20] <soreau> DaVampsWin: What model gpu is it?
[01:20] <DaVampsWin> soreau : ati radeon 9250
[01:21] <soreau> DaVampsWin: Try booting with radeon.modeset=0 or the nomodeset option as dr_willis suggested
[01:22] <dr_willis> the url i gave. shows how to use the options.
[01:22] <soreau> DaVampsWin: Also, you may need to disable your onboard graphics in the bios if applicable
[01:22] <DaVampsWin> checkin on the nomodeset now
[01:22] <dr_willis> You did plug the video cable into the right port? :)
[01:22] <dr_willis> (been there, did that wrongly befor)
[01:22] <DaVampsWin> dr_willis : yes.. pci to pci.
[01:22] <soreau> dr_willis: or the left one ;)
[01:23] <soreau> DaVampsWin: he said video cable, not video card
[01:23] <DaVampsWin> oopsie.. lol.. its plugged to the stand vga out
[01:24] <DaVampsWin> standard**
[01:24] <soreau> DaVampsWin: And does the motherboard have onboard graphics?
[01:24] <angelicaldumb> hello there, i have  installed ubuntu 11.04 on a usb drive but when i try to boot system stuck on a flashing cursor screen, what s wrong?
[01:24] <DaVampsWin> soreau : yes.. going to see if i can disable it in the bios
[01:25] <soreau> angelicaldumb: Does it sit there forever or how long did you wait?
[01:25] <HiDeHo> angelicaldumb:  how have you installed it to usb
[01:26] <sam555> can this command work on ubuntu? e2fsck -f -b 8193 /dev/sda3
[01:26] <angelicaldumb> soreau, i ve waited more than 5 minutes i guess it s forever
[01:26] <HiDeHo> angelicaldumb: also do you know what md5sum is and what its for.
[01:26] <soreau> sam555: e2fsck should work, yes..
[01:26] <sam555> soreau: i just wasn't seeing the -b switch on the man for ubuntu
[01:27] <HiDeHo> angelicaldumb: those are the first to things we need to know about.
[01:27] <soreau> sam555: e2fsck --help ?
[01:27] <angelicaldumb> HiDeHo , have installed it using the live cd , i know what md5sum is for , theres nothing wrong with the iso
[01:27] <hyperstream> My networking manager gui becomes unresponsive, Clicking any button has no effect, all my VPN listings dissapear(leaving a 1px high box.) more networks also dissapears.  RESTARTING network manager does not fix this issue, only a reboot. Is there any information on this at all?
[01:28] <hyperstream> Sorry if i said this moments ago, im having connectivity issues.
[01:28] <sam555> soreau: got it! thanks
[01:28] <HiDeHo> angelicaldumb: ok what os do you currently have on hdd
[01:28] <HiDeHo> what os.
[01:29] <angelicaldumb> HiDeHo , i have no hard drive , right know i am using an usb live ubuntu on a fat16 partition
[01:29] <soreau> hyperstream: Tried restarting nm-applet?
[01:29] <DaVampsWin> dr_willis : any extras that i need to change besides nomodeset?
[01:29] <HiDeHo> angelicaldumb: did you try to install again. also another thing is you coudl try to install it from your main os on the computer using unetbootin.
[01:29] <hyperstream> soreau, only network-manager
[01:29] <soreau> DaVampsWin: no
[01:29] <HiDeHo> ok no hdd on computer weird.
[01:30] <DaVampsWin> ok ty.. lets see what this gives me
[01:30] <HiDeHo> angelicaldumb: what are you wanting the usb for
[01:30] <hyperstream> soreau, i will give that a shot right now, not sure if i'll disconnect. Brb
[01:30] <HiDeHo> angelicaldumb: oops there i go again sorry not meaning to 101 questions
[01:30] <hyperstream> soreau, what is the correct way to restart this?
[01:31] <HiDeHo> angelicaldumb: do you just need to have a working computer.  till you get a hdd
[01:31] <soreau> hyperstream: Probably 'killall nm-applet' and then 'nm-applet' from Alt+F2 run dialog
[01:31] <hyperstream> thanks
[01:31] <DaVampsWin> yaaaaaaaaaaay nomodeset got me in to ubuntu
[01:31] <angelicaldumb> HiDeHo , i want the usb to run ubuntu 11.04 right know its running like a livecd but on an usb pen drive using a fat16 parttion that cant be bigger than 4gb
[01:31] <soreau> DaVampsWin: cool. did you disable onboard graphics?
[01:31] <HiDeHo> y fat 16
[01:32] <hyperstream> soreau, you my friend, are the best. a month this issue has been hassling me
[01:32] <DaVampsWin> soreau : not yet, going to reboot and hit the bios to see what i can do
[01:32] <soreau> hyperstream: Glad I could help :)
[01:32] <HiDeHo> angelicaldumb: ok can i pm you
[01:32] <angelicaldumb> HiDeHo , i have tried other formats but fat16 is the only one that works
[01:32] <soreau> DaVampsWin: If it's working and 'lspci|grep VGA' looks ok (doesn't show two gpu's) then you should be ok
[01:33] <alex__c2022> Is there a way to get html of webview before it loads it?
[01:33] <angelicaldumb> HiDeHo , yes yo can
[01:34] <DaVampsWin> soreau : got in to the bios and set the primary graphics as the pci ext.
[01:35] <DaVampsWin> soreau : after that without editing grub, it booting with video all he way to the login.. then i get white daigonal lines. with no show of the login area.
[01:35] <soreau> DaVampsWin: Now the kernel option you gave is not persistent. ie. it wont 'stick' across reboots. If it's still a problem without nomodeset, you will have to edit a file to make it persistent
[01:35] <soreau> Oh cool
[01:35] <ben_stein>  http://www.frokwon.net/zimroads.jpg
[01:36] <DaVampsWin> soreau : so now is figuring out how to get to log in without nomodeset
[01:36] <Tiktalik> Yaaar
[01:37] <Tiktalik> Is there a way to update my graphics drivers??
[01:38] <michael_p> hi anyone recomend of getting gnome 3
[01:38] <soreau> DaVampsWin: What you should know is that your older radeon is one of the lowest supported by the radeon driver (it's an r200 chipset) and the new KMS driver (kernel modesetting) may not work with that card well, or at all
[01:38] <soreau> DaVampsWin: So you may have to settle for the old driver by having the radeon driver load without modesetting by default
[01:38] <soreau> Tiktalik: What problem are you having?
[01:39] <xangua> !gnome3 | michael_p
[01:39] <DaVampsWin> soreau : so a perm edit of grub
[01:39] <soreau> ! gnome3 | michael_p
[01:39] <soreau> xangua: Beat me :)
[01:39] <ben_stein>  http://www.frokwon.net/zimroads.jpg <- check the roads in zimbabwe
[01:39] <soreau> DaVampsWin: Well, no.. actually you want to tell your system to load the radeon module with modeset=0 as a paramenter
[01:39] <xangua> !ot | ben_stein
[01:40] <ben_stein> xangua what if i hit a pothole while using ubuntu?
[01:40] <DaVampsWin> soreau : ok, sounds a little tricky
[01:40] <soreau> DaVampsWin: Though I guess you could have your kernel load with nomodeset (or radeon.modeset=0) but that doesn't make as much sense
[01:41] <michael_p> great i wont do it until its stable
[01:41] <MissingPerson> I'm having trouble with my install of mint, stuck in live CD, trying to backup the files on my home partition to my portable HD, because whenever i start my mint install, my home folder is inaccessible, and a lot of config files don't work from my fedora install
[01:41] <MissingPerson> but whenever i try to, it says permission denied, and trying to set it to open the partition as administrator tells me "cannot do it because we don't know what program to use"
[01:41] <MissingPerson> can anyone help?
[01:42] <xangua> !mint | MissingPerson
[01:42] <michael_p> i am runing version 2.321
[01:42] <einseenai> hello, guys, i removed opensuse and windows from my UEFI based Thinkpad laptop and now i can't install opensuse nor ubuntu. grub installation fails while installing with live cd saying it's can install grub-efi to /target/ and after reboot it says No operating system found!!.. i tried to install grub manually with grub-install but it fails saying smth about GPT. please, help!
[01:42] <MissingPerson> xangua: did, no help
[01:43] <soreau> DaVampsWin: Try this: Create a file called /etc/modprobe.d/radeon.conf with the contents 'options modeset=0' (without the 'tick' marks)
[01:43] <dylan_> hello all
[01:43] <zykotick9> MissingPerson, mint isn't supported in ubuntu
[01:43] <MissingPerson> zykotick9: and linuxmint-help doesn't answer any questions
[01:43] <DaVampsWin> soreau : let me reboot in to ubuntu with nomodeset so i can do it from there
[01:43] <einseenai> anybody, please?
[01:43] <soreau> MissingPerson: What he's saying is that we can't help you unless you're using ubuntu
[01:43] <xqix9u2v> einseenai, i would format the disk beforehand
[01:44] <soreau> DaVampsWin: good idea
[01:44] <zykotick9> MissingPerson, so pick a distribution that can answer your questions!
[01:44] <DaVampsWin> soreau : i thought so too
[01:44] <einseenai> xqix9uv2, already done, many many times
[01:44] <MissingPerson> soreau: i'm using a derivative, and i've gotten help in here countless times for mint
[01:44] <xqix9u2v> o wow...  cold boot?
[01:44] <soreau> einseenai: Are you wanting to use GPT as your partition type?
[01:45] <einseenai> xqix9uv2, what's that?
[01:45] <linux> hi world
[01:45] <soreau> MissingPerson: Yes but you're not supposed to ask for help for anything other than ubuntu here
[01:45] <ben_stein> hi
[01:45] <ben_stein> linux
[01:45] <dylan_> i am experiencing technical difficulties. im using ubuntu 11.04. for some reason i cannot right click on the desktop, or close folders. i can open folders, but not right click on the files in them. help anyone ?
[01:45] <xqix9u2v> system off after format
[01:45] <einseenai> soreau, not sure. just want anything to work.
[01:45] <ben_stein>  http://www.frokwon.net/zimroads.jpg <- check the roads in zimbabwe
[01:45] <ben_stein> this is what almost every road is like
[01:45] <xangua> ben_stein: please stop that
[01:45] <soreau> ! ops | ben_stein
[01:45] <ben_stein> ok
[01:45] <soreau> Third time he;s posted that link
[01:46] <ben_stein> is it now
[01:46] <MissingPerson> soreau: oh give me a break here, i'm coming off a bad fedora install, all i want is the computer to start working right again
[01:46] <ben_stein> thanks tattle boy]
[01:46] <ben_stein> rat
[01:46] <dylan_> lol
[01:46] <elky> ben_stein, this is not a channel for offtopic talk at all
[01:46] <ben_stein> snitch
[01:46] <soreau> thanks elky  :P
[01:47] <soreau> MissingPerson: No worries..
[01:47] <DaVampsWin> soreau : i'm going ot log IRC on my ubuntu machine, and switch there so i can copy and paste if i need to ..
[01:47] <soreau> MissingPerson: If you do not have anything on the hdd you need to keep, you probably want to do a proper wipe on it and start fresh
[01:47] <soreau> DaVampsWin: ok
[01:48] <MissingPerson> soreau: i do, i want to keep some of my files in my home partition
[01:48] <ben_stein> ubuntu is a word from southern africa, so as a zimbabwean it is close to me, although i am "white" so please don't be arrogant
[01:48] <ben_stein> okay
[01:48] <soreau> MissingPerson: So back those up from a live session first before you go any further
[01:48] <MissingPerson> soreau: that's what i'm trying to do right now, actually
[01:50] <DaVamps-Ubuntu> soreau : ok i'm back
[01:50] <soreau> MissingPerson: Are you having trouble backing up the data?
[01:50] <soreau> DaVamps-Ubuntu: Alright, for copy/paste, here: <soreau> DaVampsWin: Try this: Create a file called /etc/modprobe.d/radeon.conf with the contents 'options modeset=0' (without the 'tick' marks)
[01:51] <DaVamps-Ubuntu> soreau, any text editor correct
[01:51] <soybean> Hey guys, anyone here good with FreeCAD?
[01:52] <Giac0m0> hi there
[01:52] <soybean> konichiwa
[01:52] <soreau> DaVampsWin: Sure, I'd use the default gui editor in gnome since you have X working now with 'sudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/radeon.conf'
[01:52] <soreau> ! anyone | soybean
[01:52] <dylan_> can anyone give me some advice ?
[01:52] <soreau> ! anyone | dylan_
[01:52] <MissingPerson> soreau: i think i got it, hang with me for a minute, if not i'll keep answering your questions
[01:53] <DaVamps-Ubuntu> soreau, use terminal or the gui?
[01:53] <soreau> MissingPerson: No worries, I'll be here for awhile
[01:53] <ben_stein> Definately, just like here mom. I was in a car accident on Saturday,
[01:53] <ben_stein> luckily the cops are on my side and my insurance is covering the
[01:53] <soybean> looking for help changing units in FreeCAD.  The dialog relating to this function is grey'd out and unaccessible
[01:53] <soreau> DaVamps-Ubuntu: Use terminal to run the command to open the text editor
[01:53] <ben_stein> oops . sorry
[01:53] <DaVamps-Ubuntu> soreau, i currently have gedit open thru the menu
[01:53] <beached> how do I get the who command to auto update
[01:53] <soreau> ben_stein: What part of Off Topic don't you understand?
[01:54] <soybean> if not i'll just say f it and make my mm's inches lol
[01:54] <ben_stein> soreau, that wasn't for this room
[01:54] <ben_stein> okay
[01:54] <ben_stein> it was a mistake due to cut and paste
[01:54] <soreau> beached: I thought it searched at run time
[01:54] <ben_stein> alright
[01:54] <beached> yes
[01:54] <beached> but I want it to autorefresh
[01:54] <Giac0m0> Guy's, I'm trying to test my firewall from my local machine. So what I did is setup a nc server socket. Now if I connect normally to this socket (nc <ip> <port>) my system connects (i guess) via the loopback interface. Any possibilities that I can simulate a external incomming connection from my own machine?
[01:54] <beached> so i dont have to keep updating it
[01:54] <soreau> ben_stein: No, it's not alright. If you don't have any business here, then leave
[01:55] <DaVamps-Ubuntu> soreau, ok the content are now save it where?
[01:55] <beached> i want to leave terminal running with who auto updating every 10 secs or somthing like that
[01:55] <soreau> Giac0m0: You'll probably get better results in ##networking for that one
[01:55] <dr_willis> beached:  'watch who'
[01:55] <beached> ty sir
[01:55] <beached> ~
[01:55] <beached> !
[01:55] <Giac0m0> soreau, thanks mate
[01:55] <MissingPerson> soreau: looks good, it's starting to transfer, and i'm right in assuming a portable ntfs partition will not keep permissions intact?
[01:55] <soreau> DaVamps-Ubuntu: What?
[01:56] <vicsar> soreau, there is no need to be a prick to others
[01:56] <soreau> MissingPerson: Correct
[01:56] <DaVamps-Ubuntu> soreau, where do i need to save the raedon.conf
[01:56] <vicsar> i.e ben_einstein
[01:56] <soreau> DaVamps-Ubuntu: In /etc/modprobe.d/
[01:56] <MissingPerson> soreau: alright, thanks, really appreciate it
[01:56] <DaVamps-Ubuntu> soreau, ok.. saving
[01:56] <soreau> DaVamps-Ubuntu: The command to open the text editor I gave should already have opened the right file
[01:56] <soreau> DaVamps-Ubuntu: So you can just Ctrl+S to save and Ctrl+Q to quit
[01:57] <ben_stein>  soreau i use this channel for gnu/linux/ubuntu support as we use ubuntu as our main os for doctors without borders (medecins sans frontieres) in zimbabwe
[01:57] <ben_stein> so what's your problem
[01:57] <soreau> ben_stein: That has nothing to do with ubuntu
[01:57] <nac-godfather> yeah, really, good to know
[01:57] <soreau> You're completely and repeatedly offtopic
[01:57] <ben_stein> WE USE UBUNTU, AND THIS CHANNEL FOR SUPPORT
[01:57] <ben_stein> OKAY
[01:58] <DaVamps-Ubuntu> soreau, raedon.conf that the correct name
[01:58] <soreau> ben_stein: But you're not getting or giving support
[01:58] <soreau> ben_stein: so you have no business here
[01:58] <nac-godfather> maybe someone can help me get two wifi interfaces connected to different ap's successfully.
[01:58] <soreau> DaVamps-Ubuntu: yes
[01:58] <soreau> nac-godfather: sure
[01:58] <ben_stein> soreau, this channel has helped us so many times man,
[01:58] <ben_stein> hmm
[01:59] <soreau> ben_stein: And you're disrupting it now, with your offtopic comments
[01:59] <soreau> so please stop
[01:59] <ben_stein> fine
[02:00] <vicsar> soreau. you are the one disrupting. Plus, there is no way for you to know if he is in a private chat with someone
[02:00] <zykotick9> vicsar, very poor reply - picking a fight with an OP can only lead to one thing.
[02:00] <DaVamps-Ubuntu> soreau, can i use nano to do this as well?
[02:01] <soreau> DaVamps-Ubuntu: Yes you can..
[02:01] <soreau> DaVamps-Ubuntu: what is the problem?
[02:01] <DaVamps-Ubuntu> soreau, tryin to run gedit and save wont allow me to .. so i need to sudo
[02:01] <quem> anyone who's used duply here?
[02:01] <DaVamps-Ubuntu> desktop/gui gedit isnt save properly
[02:02] <soreau> DaVamps-Ubuntu: I gave you the command to run from terminal..
[02:02] <vicsar> Am not picking a fight here, just giving a humble opinion.
[02:02] <DaVamps-Ubuntu> soreau, repost plz.
 DaVampsWin: Sure, I'd use the default gui editor in gnome since you have X working now with 'sudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/radeon.conf'
[02:02] <soreau> DaVamps-Ubuntu: ^^
[02:02] <DaVamps-Ubuntu> ty
[02:02] <ben_stein> soreau is a troll
[02:02] <ben_stein> begone with yee, vile cretin
[02:03] <soreau> ! ops | ben_stein
[02:03] <xangua> !ops | ben_stein
[02:03] <zykotick9> ben_stein, cya
[02:03] <vicsar> anyways lets be nice and if there is anything i can do to help. i will
[02:03] <ben_stein> oh, really
[02:03] <rww> !behelpful | ben_stein
[02:04] <MonkeyDust> will someone kick ben-stein and/or soreau pls
[02:04] <DaVamps-Ubuntu> soreau, ok file created and saved
[02:04] <soreau> DaVamps-Ubuntu: Now make sure to check it with 'cat /etc/modprobe.d/radeon,conf'
[02:04] <soreau> erm, typoed there
[02:05] <soreau> DaVamps-Ubuntu: Now make sure to check it with 'cat /etc/modprobe.d/radeon.conf'
[02:05] <DaVamps-Ubuntu> soreau, all good i read thru typoes.. and it showed exact what is in the file
[02:06] <Giac0m0> soreau, in case you were wondering.... it is not possible
[02:06] <soreau> DaVamps-Ubuntu: Cool, no try rebooting
[02:06] <DaVamps-Ubuntu> soreau, ok.. hopefully brb
[02:07] <soreau> Giac0m0: If Tramp says it isn't happening, then it's not ;)
[02:07] <furyoshonen> Are there any known errors in Ubuntu that would cause DSL PPPoe connections to disconnect and not be able to reconnect?
[02:09] <Giac0m0> haha that is good to know. Than I can stop my search for a solution :P
[02:09] <Giac0m0> soreau, i'll have to look for an other solution then haha
[02:10] <soreau> Giac0m0: Curious, what are you ultimately trying to accomplish?
[02:10] <DaVamps-Ubuntu> soreau, didnt work, white stripped screen
[02:11] <Giac0m0> just a simple firewall test. nothing fancy. But it is also handy when devoping
[02:11] <soreau> DaVamps-Ubuntu: Darn it :P
[02:11] <Giac0m0> soreau, just a simple firewall test. nothing fancy. But it is also handy when devoping.
[02:11] <DaVamps-Ubuntu> soreau, all good.. i'm up to try anything
[02:12] <soreau> DaVamps-Ubuntu: Well I guess you can try editing /etc/default/grub then, and subsequently running update-grub2 as root
[02:12] <soreau> DaVamps-Ubuntu: And for good measure since it didn't work, rm -rf /etc/modprobe.d/radeon.conf (do not typo this command)
[02:12] <DaVamps-Ubuntu> soreau, can i do that within ubuntu
[02:12] <hyperstream> Giac0m0, are you trying to test if ports are open etc from outside your network?(internet/WAN)
[02:13] <soreau> DaVamps-Ubuntu: Absolutely
[02:13] <soreau> DaVamps-Ubuntu: Some thing, just editing a text file
[02:13] <soreau> same*
[02:14] <DaVamps-Ubuntu> soreau, doing cat will tell me that the file isnt there right
[02:15] <DaVamps-Ubuntu> cat /etc/modprobe.d/raedon.conf
[02:16] <DaVamps-Ubuntu> soreau, yes.. file has been deleted
[02:16] <soreau> DaVamps-Ubuntu: Yes, after you remove it
[02:16] <DaVamps-Ubuntu> soreau, would it be a wise idea to see if i can get the linux drivers for my card while in ubuntu now?
[02:17] <soreau> DaVamps-Ubuntu: Now 'gksu gedit /etc/default/grub' and edit GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT to just add radeon.modeset=0 or nomodeset to the options there
[02:17] <soreau> DaVamps-Ubuntu: After saving the file, run 'sudo update-grub2' to apply the changes, then reboot to test
[02:18] <bjv> Q: Is there a GUI tool to edit/create custom Launchers for Unity?   alacarte is ~20Megs of extra packages and I am not sure it will do what i want..
[02:18] <bjv> /usr/share/applications and .desktop files are all just freedesktop.org stuff, right?
[02:19] <ruy> saludos hermanos
[02:19] <ruy> buenas noches
[02:20] <escott> bjv, yes freedesktop houses the standards (such as they are)
[02:20] <DaVamps-Ubuntu> soreau, in qoutes after or included in the quotes already present?
[02:20] <bjv> escott: does Ubuntu package a GUI tool to create launchers for it, though?
[02:21] <bjv> no luck searching (found alacarte)
[02:21] <escott> bjv, the main one is alacarte. i dont know of any others
[02:21] <soreau> DaVamps-Ubuntu: Included in the quotes. So "quiet splash" would become "quiet splash radeon.modeset=0"
[02:21] <theadmin> bjv: lxmed is a desktop-independent menu editor
[02:21] <DaVamps-Ubuntu> soreau, thanks
[02:22] <soreau> DaVamps-Ubuntu: These are your default kernel parameters. Don't typo or it wont work
[02:22] <theadmin> bjv: Originally designed for LXDE, but I got it working with Xfce and Openbox so
[02:22] <MonkeyDust> !ops > MonkeyDust
[02:22] <theadmin> !msgthebot | MonkeyDust
[02:22] <soreau> DaVamps-Ubuntu: I have to run out for a bit, should be back in a bit
[02:23] <DaVamps-Ubuntu> soreau, GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash radeon.modeset=0" correct
[02:23] <bjv> theadmin: *looks into lxde-core.   That sounds like what im after.   i'd searched and all i found was http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=9910899&postcount=4
[02:24] <bjv> some guy whos just like: "oh yeah, just edit this, then open gconf that, then create another folder where"
[02:24] <bjv> with no links or sources on where he's getting these unity instructions for launcher creation.
[02:24] <theadmin> bjv: I think it just uses stuff in /usr/share/applications, ~/.local/share/applications and a few other places maybe
[02:25] <zykotick9> bjv, assuming lxmed really is cross-DM, i highly doubt it would work for Unity (but I have 0 evidence)
[02:26] <bjv> zykotick9: i use nokia Maemo which is mostly .desktop's everywhere and /usr/share/application stuff
[02:26] <bjv> so it all sounded sort of like boilerplate freedesktop stuff.
[02:26] <zykotick9> bjv, does Unity use either?
[02:26] <bjv> according to this guy, yeah  http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=9910899&postcount=4
[02:27] <bjv> only instructions i could find on adding custom launchers to unity
[02:28] <escott> bjv, it was my impression that unity still uses the launchers
[02:29] <sgo11> hi, for apache2, I read ubuntu 11.04 doc, it says 'ErrorDocument' directive can be found under apache2.conf. and Alias directive direct error msg in apache2.conf. but none of them can be found under apache2.conf. the doc is totally incorrect. where can I find the ErrorDocument setup? thanks.
[02:30] <card3> may be...
[02:30] <hyperstream> sgo11, try /etc/apache2/conf.d/localized-error-pages ?
[02:31] <hyperstream> sgo11, not sure, my apache2 setup is far from default :)
[02:31] <agkdomo> loving everything about ubuntu, i just wonder is there an alternative to itunes? only thing i deeply miss from windows.
[02:31] <agkdomo> mainly genius playlist
[02:31] <theadmin> agkdomo: We haz rhythmbox, but I don't know if it's decent enough
[02:31] <card3> who can ping 91.202.27.248
[02:31] <card3> ?
[02:31] <theadmin> agkdomo: You can try running the Windows version of itunes on Linux with Wine
[02:31] <card3> is ping right?
[02:32] <hyperstream> card3, working.
[02:32] <zruty> How can Imake nautilus start up in a specified directory?
[02:32] <card3> thx
[02:32] <card3> rstream> card3, working.
[02:32] <card3> [06:32] <zruty>
[02:32] <card3> sorry
[02:32] <zruty> Yes?
[02:32] <theadmin> card3: https://pzt.me/15r8
[02:32] <card3> I`m learning konversation)
[02:32] <zykotick9> card3, lol is that the lamest DDOS attack ever?  Ya it's working here as well.
[02:33] <card3> no DDOS
[02:33] <card3> it`s my serv)
[02:33] <card3> I can`t ping it)
[02:33] <escott> zruty, nautilus /directory/path is that what you want
[02:33] <card3> see whois card3
[02:33] <card3> )
[02:33] <dr_willis> zruty:  nautilus /path/to/load
[02:33] <sgo11> hyperstream, thanks a lot for the reply. the document you mentioned does have those directives, but they are all comment out. that means they are not being used. any other places?
[02:34] <zruty> escott: dr_willis: I will try that... moment...
[02:34] <chalcedony> greetings dr_willis :))
[02:34] <hyperstream> sgo11, i think its customer per site-available perhaps
[02:34] <hyperstream> sgo11, sorry a little high here, its per site-available perhaps *
[02:35] <zruty> escott: dr_willis: Seems to work! Great! Thanks!
[02:35] <hyperstream> sgo11, give me a sec, jumping on my india box.
[02:36] <sgo11> hyperstream, thanks a lot. i checked virtual-host config, not there. :)
[02:37] <card3> How I can give internet on ubuntu server 10.04.3. Internet connect on eth0. I have 2 ethernet interfaices.
[02:37] <card3> *?
[02:37] <hyperstream> sgo11, ISPConfig3 (what i use to manage my webserver) seems to add ErrorDocument directives to its own file, which is located in sites-*/site.com
[02:38] <card3> so how?
[02:38] <hyperstream> card3, This isnt a demand and get answers place. Be patient.
[02:39] <hyperstream> card3, simply because no one here is getting paid to assist others, its a community effort :)
[02:39] <sgo11> hyperstream, do you mean virtual host config files under sites-available/ ? the default setup only has default and default-ssl. they both do not have this ErrorDocument directive. I am just learning apache2. the doc is just incorrect. I am wondering how apache2 with default setup read the ErrorDocument Directive.
[02:39] <card3> and configure eth isn`t community help? (
[02:40] <theadmin> card3: Well, not everyone can help here.
[02:40] <card3> I see)
[02:40] <theadmin> card3: Actually, "sudo ip link set eth0 up ; sudo dhcpcd eth0"
[02:40] <dr_willis> card3:  rephrase the question. its a little vague
[02:42] <card3> dr_willis a server connected to the Internet. the server has two network devices.
[02:42] <card3> I wantto connect D-Link DIR-300 with server
[02:42] <vfw___> !ics card3
[02:43] <theadmin> !ics | card3
[02:43] <dr_willis> card3:  you are asking how to nake the server share its cinection?
[02:44] <card3> dr_willis yep)
[02:44] <card3> dr_willis  maybe squid?
[02:44] <vfw___> card3: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing
[02:45] <card3> I see
[02:45] <card3> I`m reading)
[02:45] <dhye> card3 for internet sharing use firewall to configure it and use squid to managae it
[02:45] <administrator_> so cool
[02:45] <theadmin> card3: You're misusing the backtick for an apostrophe.
[02:45] <hyperstream> sgo11, two ticks
[02:46] <card3> theadmin what do you mean?
[02:47] <escott> card3, be careful using ` in a terminal whatever is between ` gets executed. things in ' are quoted (and not interpreted)
[02:47] <hyperstream> card3, ` isnt the same as ' :) I`m is wrong, its I'm
[02:47] <theadmin> card3: ', not `. Are you Russian, by the way? The way you write leads me to this guess :P
[02:47] <card3> dhye firewall - ufw or iptables?
[02:47] <card3> theadmin yes)
[02:47] <dhye> iptables
[02:47] <hyperstream> theadmin, explains it :)
[02:47] <theadmin> card3: You may join #ubuntu-ru for better help
[02:48] <card3> theadmin I have so bad English? (
[02:48] <theadmin> card3: It's acceptable, but not really clear either.
[02:48] <hyperstream> card3, your English is fairly good :) Sometimes a little confusing.
[02:48] <symaxian> What would keep apache from listing symbolic links?
[02:48] <theadmin> card3: It's just you might find it more easy to read help in your own language, unless you are really fluent with English
[02:48] <dhye> card3, http://lindesk.com/2007/04/internet-connection-sharing-using-iptables/
[02:49] <soreau> DaVampsWin: Yes, that's correct.
[02:49] <card3> no no no)) no iptables to one hour )
[02:49] <escott> symaxian, a secure apache install probably shouldn't be traversing symlinks, so they are likely disabled completely
[02:49] <soreau> DaVampsWin: Did you run update-grub2 and reboot to try it?
[02:49] <onats> hi guys
[02:50] <card3> at #ubuntu-ru everyone is silent =)
[02:50] <onats> anyone here using landscape?
[02:50] <card3> sleep)
[02:50] <card3> 6-50 AM)
[02:50] <escott> onats, yes
[02:50] <theadmin> card3: Yes it is, so? I'm awake :P
[02:50] <soreau> ! ask | card3
[02:50] <onats> escott, hosted or on-premise?
[02:51]  * theadmin thinks waking up at 4am never does anyone any good tho
[02:51] <card3> theadmin I`m too )
[02:51] <escott> onats, sorry i thought you mean landscape like xrandr... not sure what you mean
[02:51] <onats> escott, its themangement utility by canonical for ubuntu desktops
[02:51] <interlocutor> How stable is beta 1 of oneiric?
[02:51] <Meshezabeel> apt is showing up in my /media directory, is this normal?
[02:52] <theadmin> !ubuntu+1 | interlocutor
[02:52] <soreau> ! oneircic | interlocutor
[02:52] <interlocutor> thanks
[02:52] <theadmin> Meshezabeel: Package CD?
[02:52] <soreau> oops
[02:52] <koshieFinalReliz> Hi
[02:53] <Meshezabeel> theadmin: sorry, don't understand the question, I have a DVD in my drive, which is a video dvd, I don't have an ubuntu cd in the drive
[02:53] <koshieFinalReliz> I want to import my Firefox preference to Chromium, that's possible ?
[02:53] <wildbat1> hmmm ~ anyone tried bcache on ubuntu ~ i am interested in its performer ~ is it worth it (so i may just go get a SSD) ?
[02:53] <koshieFinalReliz> Don't import bookmarks
[02:53] <koshieFinalReliz> but password, history and stuff like that.
[02:54] <theadmin> Meshezabeel: Well, then it probably remained from the time you did have one there.
[02:54] <card3> anyone mada game hosting on ubuntu?
[02:54] <card3> made
[02:54] <theadmin> Meshezabeel: You probably should take it out of your sources.list and rmdir
[02:54] <card3> )
[02:54] <koshieFinalReliz> card3, hi, ask :)
[02:54] <Meshezabeel> theadmin: okay, thanks, I will check that out
[02:56] <HSP> Running Ubuntu 11.04 with Compiz.  Anyone had experience with windows opening and (a) not remembering size & position (b) being shifted off screen partially and sometimes behind the panel?
[02:56] <HSP> This seems to happen mostly (if not only) with evince
[02:58] <sstchur> Ubuntu 11 here, and wanting to get setup with ruby on rails 3, but it seems that via apt-get, I'm given rails 2.3.5.  I've found a few articles online searching, but no really clear guides on how best to get setup with rails 3.  Or this a question for a ruby channel instead?  Advice appreciated
[02:58] <interlocutor> i hear that in place distrobution upgrades on highly customized systems is pretty much a recipie for disaster...is this true?  Like if I installed 11.04 today, then customized it to hell, and then did idst-upgrade to 11.10, would I be risking it?
[02:59] <theadmin> interlocutor: Yes.
[02:59] <nac-godfather> Any good movie recommendations for tonights torrents?
[02:59] <theadmin> interlocutor: It pulls any and all default apps that are in 11.10...
[02:59] <theadmin> interlocutor: No fun
[02:59] <theadmin> nac-godfather: Offtopic
[02:59] <interlocutor> bleh
[03:00] <interlocutor> sstchur, DO NOT USE anything from the repos for ruby
[03:00] <nac-godfather> theadmin:  "nac-godfather:  Offtopic"  Offtopic
[03:00] <interlocutor> get RVM and do it right
[03:00] <theadmin> nac-godfather: This is not a chat channel, nor is it a piracy channel.
[03:00] <nac-godfather> yeah, don't even touch your ruby, is my opinion, I just messed mine up royally the other night trying to update
[03:01] <sstchur> interlocutor, ok, I've read a bit about RVM and gave it a shot, yesterday but it was such a disaster -- I royally screwed things up
[03:01] <interlocutor> RVM is a wonderful thing
[03:01] <interlocutor> RVM is easy, just follow the guides
[03:01] <dave__> hi
[03:01] <interlocutor> everything is self-contained, so you can't screw up that badly
[03:01] <theadmin> interlocutor: What's so wrong with "sudo gem install rails" >.<
[03:01] <nac-godfather> yeah, tell me that after you get the never-ending yaml warnings after an upgrade with rvm
[03:01] <sstchur> interlocutor, does one need to first remove everything that was installed with apt-get?
[03:01] <dave__> warning: possible political question.  why did ubuntu switch to Unity over GNOME in 11.04?
[03:02] <theadmin> dave__: Cause Unity is more netbook-friendly and it's also a Canonical software
[03:02] <sstchur> interlocutor, this is my confusion?  the RVM guides don't seem to clearly explain all what you need to get started
[03:02] <sstchur> for instance, when I tried the curl command which was supposed to run the install script, nothing happened
[03:02] <interlocutor> well, do you have curl installed?
[03:02] <sstchur> yes
[03:02] <HSP> dave_: Unity is used also because Gnome 2 is being phased out
[03:03] <escott> dave__, they already had something developed with the netbook remix so they decided to extend it rather than use gnome3 which wasnt on their timeline
[03:03] <sstchur> should I apt-get remove rails before I start with RVM?
[03:03] <hyperstream> dave__, you dislike unity ? :) I hated at first, took me a week to get used to - much quicker. i like the idea of searching for everything rather than mousing stuff. Nerd much :x
[03:03] <z3ro3x> I followed the directions from the following URL to get ipv6 up and running.  My DSL provider gives me a dynamic IP.  Is there a simple solution to have my IPv4 address automatically updated with Hurricane Electric?  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IPv6#Get_connected_with_Hurricane_Electric
[03:03] <dave__> i see the plot thickens
[03:03] <interlocutor> http://www.christopherirish.com/2010/08/25/how-to-install-rvm-on-ubuntu-10-04/ follow that for RVM
[03:04] <theadmin> hyperstream: You may like Launchy, which allows you to search not only for all apps you have but also any files in specified directories :)
[03:04] <sstchur> that is also applicable for ubuntu 11?
[03:04] <interlocutor> yes, perfectly
[03:04] <hyperstream> theadmin, ooOoo thanks, i'll have to check it out :)
[03:05] <interlocutor> sstchur: here's a better one! http://blog.dcxn.com/2011/06/20/setting-up-rvm-on-ubuntu-11-04/
[03:05] <sstchur> interlocutor, thanks, I will give it a go
[03:05] <[THC]AcidRain> ok. need a little help. when linux boots. i think grub is trying to mount my 2 external drives
[03:05] <interlocutor> yep, and here's the one I used
[03:05] <interlocutor> http://beginrescueend.com/rvm/install/
[03:06] <[THC]AcidRain> how do i get them to mount when computer loads?
[03:06] <dave__> theadmin, hyperstream, HSP :  its not that i dont like unity, i was just curious if somebody at GNOME pissed off somebody at ubuntu (canonical)
[03:06] <dave__> i find gnome works fine
[03:06] <[THC]AcidRain> or... perhaps i think its trying to boot from them. i started having this issue after a bios upgrade
[03:06] <dave__> maybe unity has performance increases?
[03:06] <theadmin> dave__: If you've seen Gnome3 you wouldn't think so.
[03:06] <dhye> sstchur, to install rails, first install ruby, get latest ruby version then install it, to install rails simply execute gem install rails
[03:06] <sstchur> On a completely unrelated note, I have a Samsung QX410 and while the touchpad works in Ubuntu, the inability to disable touchpad while typing is driving me crazy -- anyone know a solution for this (besides manually hitting fn+f10 to disable/enable touchpad)?
[03:06] <sstchur> dhye, but taht will give me rails 2.3.5 wont it?
[03:06] <nitro> Hi
[03:06] <escott> dave__, gnome3 and unity are very similar
[03:07] <hyperstream> dave__, i admit, im also using gnome at current. Waiting on one piece of software i use to support unity :). Its due any time :)
[03:07] <hyperstream> dave__, VPNAutoconnect hasnt been updated to be exact :)
[03:07] <HSP> dave__:nah, it's about making Ubuntu more modern (I guess) and appealing to the younger folks (I guess) and to make the UI more friendly.  I like old Gnome personally
[03:07] <[THC]AcidRain> /dev/sda1   *           1        9338    75005952   83  Linux
[03:07] <dave__> theadmin, i see...im about to find out as just installed it for my parents (updating their jaunty jackalope)
[03:07] <[THC]AcidRain> it says it will boot from my internal drive
[03:07] <nac-godfather> I love how this wireless keyboard only works for about a day, before I need to change the batteries again.  Distance to usb dongle, about 2 feet.
[03:08] <bsmith093> i have the broadcom 4312 chipset wifi card, can i use b43 or not,ive looked around angd getting contradictory answers, if yes, then what kernel do i need and what commands do i run?
[03:08] <bsmith093> the bcm4312 chipset
[03:09] <[THC]AcidRain> how do i remove menu items from places?
[03:09] <dave__> hyperstream, lol yea i was going to guess something with the network manager in general
[03:09] <hyperstream> :)
[03:09] <Bash> Are there any dangers with allocating a partition from a NTFS one, installing ubuntu onto it when I already have Windows 7 installed on another hard-drive? (and want to dual-boot?)
[03:09] <theadmin> bsmith093: You probably would rather want broadcom-wl, b43 is somewhat old
[03:10] <dave__> HSP, i will give it a shot, though im sure my parents are going to be bitching as they just started to figure out their way around GNOME
[03:10] <theadmin> Bash: Defragment the NTFS partition, run a chkdsk /f on it, after which resize it and create an ext4 partition in the resulting space to install Ubuntu on.
[03:10] <HSP> Bash: Dual boot implies two OSs on the same drive.  Do you have two drives or a single drive with multiple OSs?
[03:10] <wildbat1> Bash: not much ~ i did alot NTFS resize and moving be4.
[03:10] <bsmith093> i would like to enable monitor mode, which one does that, im running kernel 2.6.32-33-generic lucid
[03:10] <Bash> HSP: Multiple drives.
[03:11] <Bash> theadmin: The installer can handle that after chkdsk?
[03:11] <HSP> dave__: They won't bitch about no viruses.  Where I work, we run mostly Windows and drive-by downloads, scareware, etc. are continuously plaguing our PCs
[03:11] <theadmin> Bash: Sure, but you might also want to resize the partition from within Windows if you have win7. It's much faster.
[03:12] <theadmin> Either way, I gtg.
[03:12] <bsmith093> currently\, according to network manager, im running the "wl" driver, not the "broadcom-wl" driver, if ther's a difference
[03:12] <Bash> theadmin: Right. But there's no huge risk when installing ubuntu with it overwriting MBR as in the old days?
[03:13] <bsmith093> so is there a driver for lucid, that supports the bcm4312 monitoring mode, and the other things?
[03:13] <dave__> HSP: true i have had them on since about 2007 and honestly, no real problems.  plus i dont have to worry about them downloading some bat or exe and running it on "accident"
[03:13] <HSP> Bash: then you probably won't dual-boot.... unless you have two drives in a single system, but in that case your BIOS is going to set one as the default boot device.  I suppose if that were the case you could install Ubuntu on one drive and edit the Grub config to have one of the menu items be Win7 on the other drive
[03:13] <sstchur> interlocutor, <sigh> that guide doesn't work
[03:14] <[THC]AcidRain> grr
[03:14] <wildbat1> Bash: the installation will have option that where you want GURB install, just keep eyes open :>
[03:14] <dhye> sstchur, yes it is, but you van install manuall of rails depend which version do you want
[03:14] <HSP> dave__: my kids use Linux Mint Debian for that very reason.  Every OS has it's issues and I've got complaints about Linux for sure but I still love it for a lot of reasons.
[03:14] <sstchur> dhye, how do I specify the version of rails?
[03:14] <interlocutor> sstchur: you're probably thinking that RVM is install and forget, you have to USE the environment
[03:15] <interlocutor> you actually run your apps inside an RVM environment
[03:15] <[THC]AcidRain> ok im getting an error saying the mount point does not exist. how do i remove the mountpoint so i can readd it?
[03:15] <interlocutor> I think you need to do some more reading
[03:15] <escott> [THC]AcidRain, mountpoint is the directory that you attach to. you need to mkdir the mountpoint
[03:15] <dave__> general question though:  my dad is into video editing.  now he is currently using "cinelerra-cv" suite.  im kinda done with it.  anybody know any other good opensource video editing software for linux?
[03:15] <Bash> HSP: Right, maybe dual-boot is the wrong word for it, but wondering if I can install ubuntu onto a drive and select that drive to be main boot drive, in which I point Grub to the Windows drive, (without mucking up the MBR)
[03:15] <sstchur> interlocutor, i'm just trying to install the dependencies (1st step)
[03:15] <interlocutor> Or, find a distro that isn't based off of Debians Ruby packages
[03:15] <dhye> sstchur, goto http://rubyforge.org/frs/?group_id=307 , theres lso standalone package of rails
[03:16] <[THC]AcidRain> escott, but its already listed. i know for a fact that the directory is not there. but i think this has somethign to do with grub not loading properly while my other drives are hooked up at boot
[03:16] <interlocutor> btw sstchur, you might try #rubyonrails :)
[03:16] <sstchur> Unable to locate package lib1g
[03:16] <[THC]AcidRain> because its like the mount point is being created 2 times
[03:16] <sstchur> ok, i will try that
[03:16] <escott> Bash, if you have two drives yes, install grub to drive b and set b to be the boot disk
[03:17] <Bash> escott: Just so I'm 100% clear, IF I were to remove that drive in the future, would Win7 still be bootable as usual?
[03:17] <HSP> Bash: I'm sure that would work but I've never installed Ubuntu in that particular configuration.  The Ubuntu installer probably won't auto-configure dual boot for you.  But, yes, you should be able to make the Ubuntu drive the default boot device (boot order) and configure Grub with an entry for the Windows drive.
[03:17] <escott> Bash, yes if you don't overwrite the mbr of the windows disk then removing the ubuntu disk will leave you with an mbr that would load windows.
[03:17] <[THC]AcidRain> man wtf. i just want my system to boot when i tell it to
[03:17] <interlocutor> can anyone comment on opensource ATI drivers vs FGLRX performance?
[03:17] <DaVampsWin> soreau : after that edit.. i was able to reboot right to the ubuntu login..
[03:18] <escott> Bash, but you may want to manually install grub to make sure that it doesnt touch the windows drive mbr
[03:18] <hyperstream> [THC]AcidRain, it boots when you press power button this isnt enough ?!
[03:18] <[THC]AcidRain> hyperstream, no it doesnt do that lol
[03:18] <escott> Bash, or yank the windows drive, install ubuntu, the replug the windows disk and rerun grub-mkconfig
[03:19] <[THC]AcidRain> /dev/sdf1 is set to a boot disk. how to i remove this?
[03:19] <escott> [THC]AcidRain, the bootable flag usually doesn't matter, but you could remove it with fdisk
[03:19] <Bash> escott: I think that might be the safest bet, yeah. Thanks!
[03:19] <mostrador> Hola
[03:20] <escott> !es | mostrador
[03:20] <[THC]AcidRain> escott, i think this is what i have to do
[03:20] <mostrador> Hello
[03:21] <[THC]AcidRain> right now my external hdds wont even mount. this seems to be an issue everytime i turn my box on
[03:22] <[THC]AcidRain> i get operation already pending
[03:22] <fluffy> I need some help getting a BCM4311 working.
[03:22] <[THC]AcidRain> its trying to mount the device 2 tims :/
[03:22] <urlin2u> [THC]AcidRain, what types of partitions, are they in the fsat?
[03:22] <urlin2u> fstab
[03:23] <[THC]AcidRain> urlin2u, no. ext3 or 4 i cant remember
[03:23] <makka> I setup Ubuntu Cloud in test environment, and I'm having an SSL issue with the store.  Anyone willing to help with this one:)
[03:24] <fluffy> Can I get some help with getting my BCM4311 wireless card working?
[03:24] <soreau> ! broadcom | fluffy
[03:24] <HiDeHo> ubuntu is still a grat os.
[03:24] <fluffy> Thankyou
[03:24] <HiDeHo> now i realise that i can choose gnome or unity lol
[03:24] <Nisstyre> I would tend to disagree with that viewpoint
[03:25] <HiDeHo> awsome.
[03:25] <bsmith093> im trying to remov wl and install b43 to get montioring mode working on my bcm4312 wifi card, how do i do that?
[03:25] <soreau> HiDeHo: unity runs in gnome.. you have the option of that or 'classic gnome' which is just without unity
[03:25] <HiDeHo> may i ask if there is a version of ubuntu like 8.04 that works on old computers.
[03:25] <[THC]AcidRain> urlin2u, i think my grub problem is that both my external drives are set as a boot drive. and somehow its bypassing my bios and making it try to boot from them first, because when they are hooked up. it makes me chose which version of grub or w/e to try and boot with. and i select something and the logo screen font is all small and ugly looking. if i unplug both of them, it seems to boot up normal.
[03:25] <soreau> ! broadcom | bsmith093
[03:25] <urlin2u> bsmith093, look at the link for fluffy
[03:26] <HSP> HiDeHo: How old and slow is the computer you're talking about?
[03:26] <bsmith093> urlin2u: fluffy?
[03:26] <xangua> unity runs on top og gnome HiDeHo
[03:26] <HiDeHo> yes soreau i found that out
[03:26] <xangua> !lubuntu | HiDeHo
[03:26] <fluffy> bsmith093, yeah. The STA drivers are installed already
[03:26] <[THC]AcidRain> urlin2u, another issue. is that my mountpoint is /media/Server2, and there are 2 of those exact same mountpoints. but when i delete 1, the other one still says its there, but i cant remove it
[03:26] <urlin2u> [THC]AcidRain, you would have to have grub in their mbr's the boot flag is not a issue.
[03:26] <fluffy> bsmith093, The wireless just isn't working.
[03:26] <HiDeHo> p4 1.8hz cpu and 512 ram
[03:26] <makka> fluffy: I had this same issue with my HP laptop.  I'm not sure what you've done to this point.  But what worked for me was while I installed ubuntu
[03:27] <[THC]AcidRain> urlin2u, well the issue is i DONT want to boot from them at all. i want to boot from my internal hdd
[03:27] <bsmith093> fluffy:  could i get that link, i just joined and dont see it
[03:27] <HSP> HiDeHo: Yeah, ubottu is correct
[03:27] <fluffy> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[03:27] <HiDeHo> ubuntu 8.04 was the best ubuntu os for it. pitty my computer broak and i lost al updates and customising on it
[03:27] <soreau> ! broadcom | bsmith093
[03:27] <urlin2u> !broadcom | bsmith093
[03:27] <makka> fluffy: I connect my laptop to my router with a patch cable
[03:27] <bsmith093> thanks
[03:27] <HiDeHo> HSP: ubotto ?????
[03:27] <urlin2u> ! broadcom bsmith093
[03:27] <deadaim> I installed the live cd on a usb stick and I actually want to do some development on it.  I'm trying to install rails 3.0, but only rails 2.5 is available through the ubuntu software center.  Why is it that the ubuntu software center has older packages in my livecd usb stick?
[03:27] <fluffy> makka, thats all? How do you think I'm online right now?
[03:28] <makka> fluffy: i was then able to download the 3rd party driver
[03:28] <HSP> HiDeHo: Use Lubuntu
[03:28] <xangua> !latest | deadaim
[03:28] <fluffy> makka, which 3rd party driver did you get?
[03:28] <deadaim> ubottu: In my ubuntu installation on my laptop, I'm able to get rails 3.0 without a problem.
[03:28] <HiDeHo> \i always thought ubuntu could have maintained ubuntu 8.04 as an old computer support.  kernels no longer support old hardware
[03:29] <soreau> deadaim: Are they the same version of ubuntu?
[03:29] <makka> fluffy: I don't remember off the top of my head, i was prompted to install it, when I finished install ubuntu
[03:29] <[THC]AcidRain> mount: /dev/sdf1 already mounted or /media/Server2 busy.mount: according to mtab, /dev/sdf1 is already mounted on /media/Server2
[03:29] <deadaim> soreau: i believe so.  I downloaded the latest ubuntu iso and put it o nthe usb stick.
[03:29] <soreau> HiDeHo: Sure it does. What hardware are you referring to?
[03:29] <SIFTU> HiDeHo: you think the kernels dropped support for hardware?
[03:29] <[THC]AcidRain> it seems what i have is 2 shortcuts to mounting the drive manually
[03:29] <fluffy> makka, :-(
[03:29] <HSP> HiDeHo:  All good things come to an end.  Even old computers and OSs.  Lubuntu probably supports yours though.  What type of computer is it?
[03:30] <soreau> deadaim: Did you update your repo lists and packages?
[03:30] <urlin2u> [THC]AcidRain, i order to not have this be a 20 questions and guess lets run the boot script. Pastebin the RESULTS.txt
[03:30] <urlin2u> In*
[03:30] <subterfuge> Problem = randomly not booting from USB and USB not showing up in BIOS -- Settings = Using 11.04, Installed /boot to a USB Drive, Installed everything else in encrypted volume(s)
[03:30] <subterfuge> Thoughts
[03:30] <HiDeHo> soreau: nope its common linux knowledge that new kernels in any linux os dont support old hardware.  a simple google serch will reveal that.
[03:30] <soreau> subterfuge: Sounds like a problem with your system and/or bios
[03:30] <[THC]AcidRain> whoah your tripping me out. what boot command?
[03:30] <HSP> subterfuge: maybe your USB drive is going bad.  You talking about a USB stick?
[03:31] <soreau> HiDeHo: That's simply not true
[03:31] <SIFTU> HiDeHo: lol
[03:31] <arckanjo> I hated the new CUPs "Common Unix Print Service"
[03:31] <subterfuge> HSP: Stick is new and seems to be ok on all other systems
[03:31] <HiDeHo> soreau: that is why os like puppylinux have versions with older kernels for older hardware.  runs better. support old graphicls cards better etc
[03:32] <HiDeHo> well its true in my experance .
[03:32] <deadaim> soreau: hmm
[03:32] <fluffy> Can someone help guide me a bit on this bcm4311 issue?
[03:32] <HSP> HiDeHo: Older hardware might be even better supported.  I've run into ACPI issues on a very old Dell Inspiron 2400 but everything else worked from the start
[03:32] <subterfuge> soreau: that was my first thought however booting from live cd and then checking the drives performance then rebooting seemed to fix it
[03:32] <makka> fluffy: sorry if that wasn't much help.  I tried using the steps in forums, and it just didn't work.  So that's when I decided to start from scratch, and plug directly into my network
[03:32] <deadaim> soreau: I think I need to do further investigation in how I installed rails on my laptop..
[03:32] <HiDeHo> my p4 will no longer run ubuntu. slowly each version after 8.04 got worse and worse.
[03:32] <urlin2u> [THC]AcidRain, first tab the nics second read the post.
[03:32] <soreau> deadaim: Check your ubuntu version(s) with 'lsb_release -a'
[03:32] <HiDeHo> HSP: exactly very old computers have issues
[03:33] <soreau> HiDeHo: Ican run latest ubuntu on my P4 just fine
[03:33] <SIFTU> HiDeHo: thats probably because you are trying gnome with 512Mb of RAM
[03:33] <HSP> HiDeHo: In what way won't your p4 run Ubuntu?
[03:33] <urlin2u> [THC]AcidRain, sorry here is the link. http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/
[03:33] <xangua> HiDeHo: stop nonsence, my p4 runs lucid and up, we already told you to try Lubuntu if you hace few resources ;)
[03:33] <deadaim> soreau: ok, thanks!
[03:33] <fluffy> makka, It's ok. I'm trying to work it out on my own, but I'm not that good at troubleshooting linux
[03:33] <HiDeHo> with ubuntu i have noticed that on my old computer it dont run as not enough ram, cpu, and other things.
[03:33] <mukti> I cannot get a power usage estimate with powertop. It shows "no ACPI power usage estimate available". Does anyone know what I can do to fix this?
[03:33] <HiDeHo> my nower laptop is ok
[03:34] <arckanjo> I hate the new CUPs "Common Unix Print Service"
[03:34] <SIFTU> HiDeHo: that has nothing to do with a kernel version
[03:34] <HSP> HiDeHo: Use Lubuntu or some other light weight Linux, or buy a new computer - simple.
[03:34] <HiDeHo> SIFTU: see issues 512 mb ram gnome clames to run in it.
[03:34] <escott> arckanjo, CUPS is something like 10 years old
[03:34] <soreau> HiDeHo: Sure, if you have a very small amount of ram ie. < 256, it could be a problem
[03:34] <HiDeHo> yet gnome in 8.04 flawless
[03:34] <soreau> HiDeHo: 512MB ram should work fine
[03:34] <SIFTU> HiDeHo: it will stuggle with 512Mb.. run lubuntu as suggested
[03:35] <makka> fluffy: Yeah I've only had issues with Broadcom wireless cards.
[03:35] <HiDeHo> i have tryed the lightweightversions of ubuntu none work liek 8.04
[03:35] <fluffy> makka, The website given tell me to reinstall the bcmwl kernel source
[03:35] <bsmith093> when i went to install the firmware-b43-installer package that the ubuntu docs recommended, this happened : sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter firmware-b43-installer
[03:35] <HiDeHo> soreau: i know but not
[03:35] <[THC]AcidRain> urlin2u, http://pastebin.com/Ei0u3Hy4
[03:35] <mukti> I figured it out, powertop doesn't work on AC power (incase anyone was wondering)
[03:35] <HSP> HiDeHo: You're making me want to go read some old BOFH :)
[03:35] <arckanjo> before the white version, I dont remember the number was fantastic, but now :(
[03:36] <HiDeHo> HSP: y
[03:36] <[THC]AcidRain> urlin2u, sda1 is supposed to be my boot partition. or at least it was before bios upgrade
[03:36] <bsmith093> pardon me i meant this : sudo dpkg -i firmware*
[03:36] <bsmith093> (Reading database ... 243715 files and directories currently installed.)
[03:36] <bsmith093> Preparing to replace firmware-b43-installer 4.150.10.5-4 (using firmware-b43-installer_4.150.10.5-4_all.deb) ...
[03:36] <bsmith093> Unpacking replacement firmware-b43-installer ...
[03:36] <bsmith093> Setting up firmware-b43-installer (4.150.10.5-4) ...
[03:36] <FloodBot1> bsmith093: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:36] <bsmith093> Not supported low-power chip with PCI id 14e4:4315!
[03:36] <bsmith093> Aborting.
[03:36] <HiDeHo> its just my experance of ubuntu on my old computer
[03:37] <fluffy> makka, I'll restart and let you know
[03:37] <hyperstream> bsmith093, anything over 2 lines, best to put it into  a pastebin of sorts then provide a link
[03:37] <bsmith093> http://pastebin.com/GisMnKDV
[03:37] <soreau> bsmith093: What does 'lspci|grep Network' report it as?
[03:37] <bsmith093> b43 problems
[03:38] <bsmith093> soreau: 06:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g (rev 01)
[03:38] <makka> fluffy: have you tried looking for driver in software center?  Ok kool.  If I had more time tonight, Id reinstall ubuntu and guide you through what i did to get it to work
[03:38] <mukti> I have another question now. Where is my bootloader config file located? /etc/default/grub ?
[03:39] <soreau> bsmith093: Does 'lspci -nn|grep Network' show 14e4:4315?
[03:39] <escott> mukti, that file is used by grub-mkconfig to make /boot/grub/grub.conf
[03:39] <bsmith093> 06:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g [14e4:4315
[03:39] <soreau> bsmith093: Well it's telling you that chip is not supported by the driver
[03:39] <edbian> bsmith093: I can get that card working
[03:40] <makka> Anyone here have experience with setting up Ubuntu Enterprise Cloud?
[03:40] <edbian> bsmith093: I'm very good with bcm43xx
[03:40] <soreau> Not sure where to go form there
[03:40] <soreau> edbian: !
[03:40] <edbian> soreau: hi :)
[03:40] <soreau> awesome
[03:40] <edbian> good timing?
[03:40]  * soreau is not
[03:40] <edbian> haha
[03:40] <mukti> escott: is /boot/grub/grub.conf the default config file for grub?
[03:40] <edbian> bsmith093: hi
[03:40] <soreau> edbian: s/good/perfect ;)
[03:40] <escott> mukti, yes
[03:40] <urlin2u> [THC]AcidRain, So both externals are ext3 one is /media/Server2 the other is /media/Server the second is the one not mounting, both are in the fstab. So why if there external do you want them in fstab?
[03:40] <bsmith093> edbian: you sure you can, then have at it, because i really want the full capabilites of this card.
[03:41] <escott> mukti, but you dont want to edit that file as it is a generated file. make your customizations to /etc/grub.d
[03:41] <edbian> bsmith093: are you online?
[03:41] <bsmith093> yes
[03:41] <edbian> bsmith093: What drivers have you tried?
[03:41] <mukti> escott: okay
[03:41] <[THC]AcidRain> urlin2u, well i was in here about 2 months ago and yall said to have them auto mount at boot and to put them in fstab was the only way to ensure that the mounted at the proper location...
[03:41] <bsmith093> wl, is eorking but i cant get monitoring mode to activate
[03:41] <soreau> mukti: Technically, you're not supposed to edit that file though. The recommended way is to edit /etc/default/grub and/or /etc/grub/* then run update-grub2 as root so it takes those options and builds a grub.conf file and installs it in /boot/grub/ for you
[03:42] <sstchur> anyone know how to auto disable the touchpad while typing on a Samsung QX410?
[03:42] <edbian> bsmith093: I'm not sure what monitoring mode is or if it works with b43 driver.  I suggest we try the b43 driver. Likely, if it doesn't work in wl or b43 there is little hope it will work at all.  I don't think there are any other linux drivers for this code.
[03:42] <uns0b1ll_> greetings free nation
[03:42] <arckanjo> guys, do you know, way when I using Putty from Windows, in Ubuntu has to much lag, but if I put my IP Adress, on /etc/hosts well it be verry fest
[03:42] <mukti> soreau: okay, thanks I'll edit that
[03:42] <edbian> for this card*
[03:42] <urlin2u> [THC]AcidRain, so are these for p2p, a external will mount without fstab automatically with read and write if set up that way.
[03:42] <semitones> how to you unzip a .bz?
[03:42] <semitones> in terminal
[03:42] <xangua> sstchur: on mouse settings ;)
[03:42] <uns0b1ll_> my resolution dropped to 1024x768 for some odd reason
[03:43] <semitones> ?
[03:43] <bsmith093> edbian: ok so b43 then? how?
[03:43] <soreau> hi uns0b1ll_
[03:43] <uns0b1ll_> and monitor unknown
[03:43] <soreau> uns0b1ll_: What graphics card?
[03:43] <uns0b1ll_> soreau, greets
[03:43] <sstchur> xangua: there is no tab for touchpad in my mouse settings, even though the touchpad seems to mostly work
[03:43] <[THC]AcidRain> urlin2u, im not sure what you are saying? i have read and write... but it still doesnt mount where i tell it to
[03:43] <edbian> bsmith093: yep: sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter and sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer
[03:43] <sstchur> (tap, drag, etc...)
[03:43] <uns0b1ll_> soreau, nvidia g280 i think
[03:43] <edbian> bsmith093: That installs the packages for the firmware (and an extractor for the firmware)
[03:43] <soreau> uns0b1ll_: How did you install the driver for it initially?
[03:43] <HiDeHo> lubuntu well ok i might
[03:44] <bsmith093> firmware-b43-installer does not exist
[03:44] <edbian> bsmith093: Tell me if you get any errors.  A particular error (about lp-phy is likely)
[03:44] <HiDeHo> xubuntu xfce is nicer
[03:44] <uns0b1ll_> soreau, through snapmanger i think
[03:44] <HiDeHo> will tr again both then lol
[03:44] <edbian> bsmith093: Are you using 11.04 ?
[03:44] <soreau> !info firmware-b43-installer
[03:44] <bsmith093> edbian:  yes
[03:44] <edbian> bsmith093: Enable the multiverse repo in synaptic
[03:44] <urlin2u> [THC]AcidRain, well they have different mount names one is /media/Server2  the other /media/Server  did you knkw this?
[03:44] <soreau> bsmith093: Make sure your multiverse repo is enabled and you're up to date
[03:44] <urlin2u> know?*
[03:44] <edbian> bsmith093: yes, sudo apt-get update wouldn't hurt anything
[03:45] <[THC]AcidRain> urlin2u, well they are 2 different drives.,..
[03:45] <bsmith093> edbian:  oh, wiat no im using 10.04 lucid
[03:45] <edbian> bsmith093: there we go :)
[03:45] <urlin2u> [THC]AcidRain, right but I belive you said they had identical mount names.
[03:46] <[THC]AcidRain> urlin2u, no no no. each 1 has 2 identical mount names it appears lol
[03:46] <edbian> bsmith093: sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter    (the firmware is in there now instead of 2 packages)
[03:46] <fluffy> makka, Nothing yet.
[03:46] <[THC]AcidRain> im not sure what im saying. when i plug 1 in. each 1 mounts to the same location 2 times
[03:46] <makka> fluffy: have you tried looking for driver in software center?  If I had more time tonight, Id reinstall ubuntu and guide you through what i did to get it to work
[03:46] <fluffy> edbian, What are you talking about? I'm trying to get my bcm4311 working
[03:46] <urlin2u> [THC]AcidRain, this is your fstab UUID=1d112679-6e31-481f-86eb-f7ec25756183       /media/Server2  ext3    user,defaults   0       0
[03:46] <urlin2u> UUID=011e9f71-c1ce-4524-a93d-6f033a956612       /media/Server   ext3
[03:47] <edbian> fluffy: I can get that card to work :)  Are you on 11.04 ?
[03:47] <fluffy> edbian, Yes.
[03:47] <[THC]AcidRain> urlin2u, right
[03:47] <fluffy> makka, Ok.
[03:47] <makka> fluffy: yeah I'm no help in this one
[03:47] <edbian> fluffy: sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer and sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter
[03:47] <edbian> makka: :(
[03:48] <bsmith093> edbian: ok b43-fwcutter is installed
[03:48] <fluffy> edbian, Done
[03:48] <bsmith093> now how do i get rid of or turn off wl
[03:49] <edbian> bsmith093: fluffy sudo modprobe b43
[03:49] <urlin2u> [THC]AcidRain, one is /media/Server2 the other /media/Server  if you removed I'm not sure what may be a problem. Since the /media/Server  is not mounting try opening the fstab and commenting it out and reboot ansd see if it mounts like a external will automatically, easier to get it to mount this way for a test.
[03:49] <fluffy> edbian, Done
[03:49] <edbian> bsmith093: you might want to sudo modprobe -r wl   and then sudo modprobe b43  but it isn't strictly necessary.
[03:49] <edbian> fluffy: your wifi card is now working
[03:49]  * edbian helps 2 people at once like a baws
[03:49] <fluffy> edbian, Holy vagina grapes
[03:50] <edbian> fluffy: ha
[03:50] <edbian> that's inappropriate but I find it funny personally
[03:50] <mneptok> fluffy: keep it G-rated
[03:50] <[THC]AcidRain> urlin2u, im saying with /media/server in fstab. it shows up in places->Server.       places->Server (2 times)
[03:50] <makka> edbian: nice job!
[03:50] <edbian> makka: thanks :)
[03:50] <bsmith093> edbian:  done now what
[03:50] <edbian> bsmith093: your wifi card is now working
[03:51] <bsmith093> yay driver: b43 thanks so much
[03:51] <fluffy> I'm going to grab my other 11.04 installs and apply that
[03:51] <fluffy> edbian, Thankyou very much.
[03:51] <edbian> bsmith093: You can double check by looking at the output of sudo lspci -k    (to make sure it's using b43 and not wl)
[03:51] <edbian> bsmith093: sure
[03:51] <edbian> fluffy: sure
[03:51] <edbian> fluffy: sure :)
[03:51] <[THC]AcidRain> /dev/sdf1                                  /media/Server2  ext3  owner,errors=remount-ro,users,user  0  0   this is my new fstab using storage device manager
[03:51] <[THC]AcidRain> it seems to only list the mount points in places ONE time as well!
[03:52] <fiber> Hi, recently I've been having the problem that every time I login to GDM I get a kernel panic.  This has only been happening for about 2 or 3 days now (until just 20min ago it was spuratic, now it happens all the time), so I blame it on an update.  Does anyone know about this issue or know any solutions?  As I said, I'm logged into tty1 so my research abilities are slightly diminished.
[03:52] <[THC]AcidRain> but i know the problem is when the drive changes its name to something like /dev/sdb1 then fstab will mess up
[03:52] <escott> [THC]AcidRain, thats what the UUID is for. you should have the UUID listed in blkid instead of the device path
[03:52] <arckanjo> Wow its raining a lot here! dear God!
[03:52] <edbian> fiber: my first thought / suggestion: use an older kernel (assuming you have one)
[03:52] <[THC]AcidRain> escott, right
[03:53] <urlin2u> [THC]AcidRain, So when you were advised to put them in fstab was it to have them do what just be available?
[03:53] <fiber> edbian: I'm currently using 2.6.38-11-generic... has this been updated recently? my grub boot menu only shows this one so i don't think it has changed recently
[03:55] <edbian> fiber: Not sure what you mean by 'updated recently'.  When the kernel is updated they increase the version number.  Ubuntu does not use the LATEST kernel but you are using the latest kernel ubuntu offers
[03:55] <fluffy> edbian, Now, how do I get this to start automatically?
[03:55] <fiber> edbian: also, my kern.log.1 shows a lot of "Short CCK"... is this shed any light on the issue?
[03:55] <[THC]AcidRain> urlin2u, right. well to be available because they wouldnt auto mount
[03:55] <edbian> fluffy: it will from now on
[03:55] <urlin2u> [THC]AcidRain, as it is the one not mounting isn't giving any info in the script, so it may need a fdsk or the uuid is wrong, could be a number of reasons.
[03:55] <edbian> fiber: I am researching that error.
[03:55] <fluffy> edbian, It didn't on this boot, let me get this figured out.
[03:56] <fiber> edbian: right... i'm currently just doing the stable branch of the standard ubuntu repositories. i don't think the kernel has been updated recently on this branch (i read the update logs and generally take note of kernel upgrades)
[03:56] <edbian> fluffy: or really?  pastebin the output of sudo lspci -k
[03:56] <urlin2u> [THC]AcidRain, strange a external should be available in computer or the home left panel, or on the desktop, if not in fstab.
[03:56] <fluffy> the STA driver was still installed.
[03:56] <edbian> fiber: if the kernel was updated you'd have an old version and an new version
[03:56] <edbian> fluffy: gotta remove that.  Do you know how?
[03:57] <fluffy> edbian, The STA driver was still installed. yep
[03:57] <edbian> fiber: that error is common and vague.  I don't think it has anything to do with the kernel panics.  Perhaps you can find some other error messages?
[03:58] <[THC]AcidRain> urlin2u, the issue seems to happen when i add the uuid into fstab
[03:58] <urlin2u> [THC]AcidRain, if you run sudo blkid does the uuid show for the one not mounting? If so check it is the same as the fstab on the script.
[03:58] <[THC]AcidRain> if i leave it as the /dev/sdf1 it works fine
[03:58] <[THC]AcidRain> urlin2u, it is. i already checked
[03:59] <urlin2u> [THC]AcidRain, set fast as the partitions like the Ubuntu partition.
[03:59] <urlin2u> fstab*
[03:59] <fiber> edbian: no, I can't seem to find anything
[03:59] <[THC]AcidRain> urlin2u, hang on. rebooting
[03:59] <edbian> fiber: mmm, I'm not sure.  Kernel panics suck
[03:59] <fiber> edbian: i'm looking in /var/log/kern.log.1, anywhere else? i grep'd all of /var/log for "panic" but didn't find anything
[04:00] <edbian> fiber: /var/log/dmesg
[04:00] <edbian> fiber: but likely we won't see the error until the kernel panic has happened.  Obviously at that point you can't read the logs anymore
[04:01] <fr0sted> hey all
[04:01] <ghfghf7> can someone explain this to me? i am trying to install ubuntu 11.04 w/ a live cd:   Can not mount /dev/loop0 (/cdrom/casper/filesystem.squashfs) on //filesystem.squashfs .
[04:01] <soreau> ghfghf7: Did you check the md5sum of the image you downloaded?
[04:02] <fiber> edbian: there is an error that says "[drm] MTRR allocation failed. Graphics performance may suffer"... everything before that seems just peachy
[04:02] <soreau> ghfghf7: Did you run the cd checker from the boot menu?
[04:02] <fiber> edbian: let me try restarting and using an older kernel
[04:02] <ghfghf7> (noob) my what?
[04:02] <ghfghf7> no how do i do that >.>
[04:03] <soreau> ghfghf7: When the cd first loads, there is a little running man at the bottom and what looks like a battery meter. Press Esc there
[04:03] <edbian> fiber: The cck error has to do with the wifi driver brcm80211   try getting rid of that
[04:03] <ghfghf7> okay ill try that
[04:03] <soreau> ghfghf7: Then run the built in cd check utility and see if there are any errors
[04:03] <fluffy_> edbian, it does start up automatically now, just have to remember to use the FN key to turn on wifi
[04:03] <edbian> fluffy_: yep :)
[04:04] <DaVampsWin> sureau.. i got it to boot to login with that edit
[04:04] <soreau> DaVampsWin: Cool deal
[04:05] <DaVampsWin> soreau : so what can i do now to get it so i dont need that edit and the card works
[04:06] <fiber> edbian, so... i couldn't get grub's menu to come up but I decided to try logging into ubuntu classic and that worked
[04:06] <fiber> edbian, so the problem is just with unity
[04:07] <edbian> fiber: a-ha!  (why are we trying to get the grub menu?)
[04:07] <fiber> edbian, to use an older kernel
[04:07] <edbian> fiber: a-ah   (press shift at the critical moment to get the grub menu)
[04:09] <DaVampsWin> soreau : would now be the time to install the linux drivers for that card
[04:09] <soreau> DaVampsWin: The drivers are already installed
[04:09] <fiber> edbian, do you think i should reboot and try unity with an older kernel?
[04:10] <edbian> fiber: It's worth a shot.  However I do not know how to install an older kernel if you don't already have one
[04:10] <soreau> DaVampsWin: The proprietary drivers do not support your card (and haven't for about 3 years now) so don't install it. It will only break the open radeon driver
[04:11] <DaVampsWin> soreau : propreitary = from ati, open radeon = from linux dev
[04:11] <fiber> edbian, i'm assuming i can just install the "linux-image-2.6.38-10-generic" package
[04:11] <froes> hi guys, i am in need of some help with a shellscript. it should kill a process and all its childs, but awk is not hlping me. gets $1 and $2 from ps as arrays with linebreaks. can anyone help ? http://pastebin.com/dqMzKrjW
[04:11] <soreau> DaVampsWin: Yes, proprietary = the driver from AMD website / catalyst / fglrx. The open radeon driver is the one that is included with the kernel and the one you're currently using
[04:12] <fiber> edbian, alright... let's give this a whirl!
[04:12] <edbian> fiber: oh yes, probably.  Didn't know that was a package
[04:12] <edbian> fiber: :)
[04:12]  * edbian whirling...
[04:12] <DaVampsWin> soreau :ok, and the card's specs will work as it is. all 256 memory and such with the OD's right
[04:12] <soreau> DaVampsWin: OD's?
[04:13] <DaVampsWin> soreau : Open Drivers
[04:13] <Roasted> Is there a trick to getting adobe reader to be the default for pdfs? For some reason, it's not in my open with menu, and inkscape opens every. single. time.
[04:13] <soreau> DaVampsWin: What is the last line of 'sudo apt-get install mesa-utils && glxinfo|grep renderer'?
[04:13] <DaVampsWin> soreau : let me look
[04:14] <escott> Roasted, usually right click/open with and eventually say do this every time
[04:14] <masterosok> I am trying to get gnome running on my Ubuntu chroot I have setup on my HP Touchpad. I cant seem to get it to lauch and was wondering if anyone could help me
[04:15] <Roasted> escott, problem is, reader isnt listed. anywhere.
[04:15] <GhostWolf> hi hope im in the proper place, but im having an issue to view my vista shared folder in ubuntu 11.04. im able to get to where the shared folder in vista but when i try to open that, i get an error saying unable to mount location: failed to mount Windows share. can anyone please help me thanks
[04:15] <escott> Roasted, then find it by the path. the binary is something like acroread
[04:16] <hero> hi friends...
[04:16] <soreau> GhostWolf: Vista on another box or the same one on another partition?
[04:16] <hero> i've got some questions.. btw where i can join postfix channel?
[04:16] <urlin2u> masterosok, you need to follow a install on these in a specific way. http://liliputing.com/2011/08/how-to-install-ubuntu-linux-on-an-hp-touchpad.html
[04:16] <escott> !alis | hero
[04:17] <GhostWolf> soreau, vista is on another pc, its on laptop, ubuntu is on a desktop and both use same connection for internet, i have a wireless gateway, the laptop connects to internet via wireless
[04:17] <soreau> ! samba | GhostWolf
[04:17] <uns0b1ll_> my resolution dropped to 1024x768 for some odd reason
[04:18] <GhostWolf> soreau, i don't think you understand, im trying to get the shared folder thats on vista via ubuntu not a share folder on ubuntu from vista
[04:18] <masterosok> urlin2u, I have ubunut working fine via command line and followed the instructions off webos-internals.org to get it working I just get get gnome installed correctly/running
[04:18] <uns0b1ll_> no idea why. nvidia card g280 with recent drivers
[04:18] <masterosok> *can't get
[04:18] <soreau> uns0b1ll_: Have you tried changing it back with nvidia-settings?
[04:18] <soreau> GhostWolf: Then maybe you should ask in #windows :P
[04:18] <uns0b1ll_> how
[04:19] <urlin2u> uns0b1ll_, did you change drivers, or is this a upgrade?
[04:19] <DaVamps-Ubuntu> soreau, can i have that command again plz
[04:19] <soreau> uns0b1ll_: Run nvidia-settings from terminal
[04:19] <masterosok> urlin2u, I have installed both gnome and gdm, when it do a startx or a gdm to start the gui it errors
[04:19] <soreau> DaVamps-Ubuntu: What is the last line of 'sudo apt-get install mesa-utils && glxinfo|grep renderer'?
[04:19] <soreau> masterosok: What error?
[04:19] <uns0b1ll_> soreau, now what ?
[04:20] <GhostWolf> soreau, its not with windows im having issue its in ubuntu, i can't get the windows shared folder to open in ubuntu. i don't know how clear i been trying to say its not a windows issue. its something in ubuntu thats not letting me share my windows shared folder
[04:20] <hero> thank you ubottu and escott :)
[04:20] <soreau> uns0b1ll_: Did it open the nvidia-settings GUI window?
[04:20] <masterosok> when I run gpm I get: ** (gdm-binary:24645): WARNING **: Couldn't connect to system bus: Failed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: No such file or directory
[04:20] <uns0b1ll_> it says CRT screen, though i have LCD
[04:20] <uns0b1ll_> soreau, yes
[04:20] <escott> masterosok, you have to start dbus service first. there are a lot of services that gdm/gnome will rely upon
[04:21] <DaVamps-Ubuntu> soreau, OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI R200 (RV280 5960) 20090101 x86/MMX/SSE2 TCL
[04:21] <soreau> GhostWolf: Well I don't use windows. The only thing I can offer is the samba link ubottu gave
[04:21] <soreau> uns0b1ll_: Now go and try to change the resolution to what it was before
[04:21] <GhostWolf> soreau, ok you're not getting what my issue is..
[04:21] <uns0b1ll_> theres none higher then 1240x768
[04:21] <soreau> DaVamps-Ubuntu: Awesome, you have 3D. So everything should work with the FOSS radeon driver
[04:21] <GhostWolf> is there anyone else who been following what i been saying can please help me? i can repost if needed
[04:21] <masterosok> escott, forgive me but I am not extremely versed with the command line how would I start the dbus?
[04:21] <DaVamps-Ubuntu> soreau, awesome.. thanks so much for you time and help
[04:22] <uns0b1ll_> or should i put it forcebly inside panning tab ?
[04:22] <escott> masterosok, service dbus start i guess.... i'm not really sure what the install looks like
[04:22] <soreau> uns0b1ll_: Then you may have to add a modeline or so in xorg.conf
[04:22] <soreau> DaVamps-Ubuntu: No problem
[04:22] <escott> masterosok, do you have an upstart init?
[04:22] <uns0b1ll_> soreau, i did reinstalled drivers and it worked after reboot
[04:22] <DaVamps-Ubuntu> must test a game to see if it helps the graphic lag at all
[04:22] <uns0b1ll_> soreau, so i dont know if its glitch or some bug
[04:23] <soreau> uns0b1ll_: So it's working now?
[04:23] <masterosok> escott, probably not, i just got an error regarding upstart when I did service dbus start
[04:23] <uns0b1ll_> soreau, no , its stoped working after reboot again i guess
[04:23] <soreau> uns0b1ll_: Proprietary drivers are problematic. There's no way around it
[04:23] <Guest54414> Why is it that Mint 11 installs, runs perfectly, while Ubuntu 11.04 won't install at all?
[04:23] <uns0b1ll_> soreau, maybe i should intall differnet one
[04:24] <uns0b1ll_> soreau, oh and theres no xorg.conf
[04:24] <uns0b1ll_> soreau, i cant find it
[04:24] <urlin2u> masterosok, to be honest not sure here, but from the link I posted " These steps will get you to a command-line version of Ubuntu Linux. From here you can use apt-get install to install Ubuntu packages. For instance, you can install icewm, Xfce or LXDE to give yourself a graphical user interface. Theoretically you could also use GNOME, KDE, or Unity but they require more system resources"  YOu might try a lighter desktop.
[04:24] <fluffy> How do I disable the network manager?
[04:24] <soreau> uns0b1ll_: Oh really? not in /etc/X11/?
[04:24] <soreau> uns0b1ll_: If there's no xorg.conf, then it's not even loading the nvidia driver
[04:25] <uns0b1ll_> oh >_<
[04:25] <uns0b1ll_> found it
[04:25] <soreau> fluffy: sudo /etc/init.d/networking stop && killall nm-applet
[04:25] <uns0b1ll_> sorry
[04:25] <uns0b1ll_> did find / -name "xorg.conf "
[04:25] <uns0b1ll_> and found nothing
[04:25] <uns0b1ll_> hmm
[04:25] <FloodBot1> uns0b1ll_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:25] <masterosok> urlin2u, yeah I know gnome is possible cause I have see it running on one of these I just cant find any docs on how to get it working
[04:25] <escott> masterosok, i think the intended use is to just start the individual applications you want
[04:25] <fluffy> soreau, will network manager start back up after a reboot?
[04:25] <soreau> uns0b1ll_: The only thing you can do with proprietary drivers when there's trouble is try reinstalling them or trying a different version of the driver
[04:25] <soreau> fluffy: Yes
[04:25] <masterosok> urlin2u, lxde worked fine but I didnt care for it
[04:25] <uns0b1ll_> soreau, my xorg.conf is so minimal - only section " device" in it
[04:26] <dr_willis> hmm. i think ive seen the nvudua druver used when theres no xorg.conf
[04:26] <DaVamps-Ubuntu> soreau, is it possible that because that card doesnt have support pixel shader 2 that many games will not even run?
[04:26] <urlin2u> masterosok, sorry I can't help any more than that, good luck. :D
[04:26] <uns0b1ll_> i install different driver right now
[04:26] <soreau> uns0b1ll_: The only thing it needs to load the driver is 'Driver "nvidia"' in the Device section
[04:26] <soreau> uns0b1ll_: You can check /var/log/Xorg.0.log to see exactly what's happening
[04:26] <masterosok> urlin2u, thanks for your input though
[04:26] <uns0b1ll_> okay
[04:26] <uns0b1ll_> soreau, let me look
[04:27] <uns0b1ll_> soreau, what should i grep ?
[04:27] <soreau> uns0b1ll_: Depends on what you're looking for
[04:27] <uns0b1ll_> well i did grep nvidia
[04:27] <Guest54414> Anyone know what I can do here? I have a Power Mac G5. I need to put Linux on it. Will Ubuntu 11.10 offer support for the Powerpc? Will I be able to watch flash videos and play games?
[04:27] <masterosok> escott, when i tried service dbus start I got start: unable to connect to Upstart: Failed to connect to socket /com/ubuntu/upstart: connection refused
[04:28] <soreau> uns0b1ll_: I assume it's already loading the nvidia driver but there's no modeline for whatever resolution you want and it's defaulting to 1024x768
[04:28] <escott> masterosok, so you will have to manually start dbus and resolve any other service dependencies
[04:28] <uns0b1ll_> do u want vnc session ?
[04:28] <dr_willis> ppc limuc has no flash Guest54414
[04:28] <soreau> uns0b1ll_: But just try reinstalling the driver and/or installing a different version of the driver and see if it doesn't work itself out
[04:28] <uns0b1ll_> okay, let me know if u got time for join.me ?
[04:29] <soreau> uns0b1ll_: When using ubuntu's default method to install the nvidia driver, it edits xorg.conf for you
[04:29] <dr_willis> ppc linux is rather limited in ways
[04:29] <soreau> uns0b1ll_: No, we don't do that here
[04:29] <Guest54414> Will the gnash player work? The newest version. Or will firefox plugins on Firefox 7 work?
[04:29] <DaVamps-Ubuntu> if video card doesnt support the requirement for a game, does the game just not start?
[04:30] <soreau> DaVamps-Ubuntu: Anything could happen. Most times it just does not start, yes
[04:30] <escott> DaVamps-Ubuntu, depends... in some cases it continues to run but with graphical anomolies
[04:30] <xangua> !ppc | Guest644
[04:30] <dr_willis> Guest54414: try it and see. i doubt if you will find it works very well or at all
[04:31] <soreau> dr_willis: Does html5 stuff work on ppc?
[04:31] <DaVamps-Ubuntu> seems that i'm getting the does not start at all case. lol.
[04:31] <Guest54414> Ubuntu 11.10 will include Firefox 7 according to distrowatch.com
[04:31] <urlin2u> Guest54414, gnash not sure some addons will some wont there is a add on called daily ester tools that will disable the incompatibility check function to have addons work maybe that wont install.
[04:31] <dr_willis> soreau:  if the browser does it should.
[04:32] <Guest54414> And according to distrowatch.com, it will support powerpc. But will it play videos, and games?
[04:32] <urlin2u> daily tester tools* Guest54414
[04:32] <fiber> edbian, so... I was unsuccessful in downgrading the kernel.  however, i got a picture of the kernel panic.... it's at http://imgur.com/txZ41
[04:32] <dr_willis> Guest54414:  what game.. videos. yes perhaps.
[04:32] <Guest54414> Flash
[04:33] <dr_willis> thers in no new flash for ppc.
[04:33] <Guest54414> Such as: Games on Facebook, and Youtube
[04:33] <dsnyders> Hi all!  OGMRip is taking WAAAY too long to rip DVDs  (eg 13+ hours for a 50 minute DVD).  Is there a better alternative?
[04:33] <fiber> edbian, right now I am in ubuntu classic which seems to work just fine
[04:33] <dr_willis> gnash is lacking in many ways
[04:33] <marenostrum> Guest54414, The proper place to talk about it might be #ubuntu+1 but, yes, it comes with Firefox 7. I am already experiencing it on 11.10 Beta 1.
[04:34] <dr_willis> dsnyders:  its reencoding also. thats the time hog.
[04:34] <Guest54414> Is it Ubuntu 11.10 Beta ppc version?
[04:34] <urlin2u> dsnyders, you need the coversion?
[04:34] <dr_willis> dsnyders:  k9copy can be very quick
[04:35] <ghfghf7> hu  my ubuntu installer doesnt offer a apply alongside win7 option can i grt that back?
[04:35] <marenostrum> Guest54414, What is ppc?
[04:35] <urlin2u> conversion*
[04:35] <ghfghf7> hu=hi
[04:35] <urlin2u> marenostrum, for apple computers
[04:35] <Guest54414> powerpc.
[04:35] <Guest54414> Macintosh
[04:35] <Guest54414> Apple
[04:35] <Guest54414> The newer Macs are intel
[04:35] <dr_willis> !ppc
[04:36] <marenostrum> Guest54414, I didn't try such a thing.
[04:36] <ghfghf7> hi,  my ubuntu installer doesnt offer a apply alongside win7 option can i get that?(ubuntu 11.40) live cd
[04:36] <dr_willis> i gave up on ppc linux. and sold my last ppc box ;)
[04:36] <SIFTU> marenostrum: well you need a ppc cpu.. it's a cpu arch
[04:36] <dsnyders> dr_willis, Ripping at 1/13th speed is not really what I had in mind.  Even re-encoding, it seems extraordinarily slow.
[04:36] <marenostrum> SIFTU, I see.
[04:37] <fiber> Hi everyone... I'm having an issue where I get a kernel panic every time I try logging into unity (http://imgur.com/txZ41).  This is only a problem with unity, I can log into ubuntu classic just fine.  This problem is new (~2 days) and until an hour ago only happened every once in a while.  Now I have a 0% chance of logging into unity.  Does anyone know about this issue?  Googling gives nothing!
[04:37] <dr_willis> dsnyders:  i can k9copy to iso backup a movie in about 20 min or less
[04:37] <urlin2u> ghfghf7, resize the W7 with its disk partitioner, leaving a unallocated, making sure you don't have 4 primary partitions already, and the Ubuntu is in a extended partition using a logical.
[04:37] <anonop05> playing fullscreen video on youtube lags on ubuntu 11.04
[04:38] <soreau> fiber: It's most likely a graphics driver issue. Which are you using?
[04:38] <ghfghf7> okay thanks
[04:38] <anonop05> any solutions to that?
[04:38] <dr_willis> fiber:  try a unity --reset   yet?
[04:38] <ghfghf7> umm is there anyway ican boot windows without having to wait the 10 mins i taakes to boot a live cd agian?
[04:38] <soreau> dr_willis: masking the issue? :P
[04:39] <ghfghf7> i mean when i comeback into ubuntu
[04:39] <fiber> soreau, it is just the internal video card for the i5... although even in ubuntu classic opengl works just fine and it is using the same driver
[04:39] <dr_willis> fiber:  also make a new yser see uf it works for them
[04:39] <urlin2u> ghfghf7, not really.
[04:39] <ghfghf7> kk
[04:39] <fiber> dr_willis, no I haven't.... what exactly does that reset?
[04:39] <masterosok> what does segmentation fault mean
[04:39] <dr_willis> fiber:  resets unity to defaults
[04:39] <soreau> dr_willis: A kernel panic can only really be caused by faulty kernel code, almost always from a kernel module. In this case the graphics driver is highly probable
[04:39] <urlin2u> ghfghf7, use a thumb drive for the ubuntu it will boot faster.
[04:40] <dr_willis> fiber:  it may be a unuty or compiz setting issue
[04:40] <fiber> dr_willis, is there any way i can backup the config before trying this?
[04:40] <soreau> dr_willis: And since he's probably not been able to login to make changes, a reset probably wont help much
[04:40] <fiber> dr_willis, also, ubuntu classic uses compiz
[04:40] <dr_willis> he saud classic desktop wirks...
[04:41] <soreau> fiber: You can export compiz settings in ccsm>Preferences to save them
[04:41] <dr_willis> make a new user.. see if it works for them fiber
[04:41] <soreau> dr_willis: Yes but that only means that userspace code in unity session is using the faulty kernel code path
[04:41] <dsnyders> dr_willis, I'm using a WDTV Live Plus network media player box to send the file to my TV.  It won't read ISO files.  I need some sort of video file like AVI MPEG1/2/4 MKV or something.
[04:42] <dr_willis> if the new user works that points to a setting issue
[04:42] <soreau> dr_willis: Case in point, userspace code should never be able to trigger a kernel panic no matter what it does
[04:42] <soreau> dr_willis: If it can, then there's a problem with the driver
[04:42] <dr_willis> dsnyders:  my wd oplay can play isos ;)
[04:42] <vaev> is there a convenient way in ubuntu to disable my laptop touchpad when an external mouse is plugged in?
[04:43] <fiber> soreau, so... what do you think is going on then? because it seems to me that the graphics driver is working just fine
[04:43] <urlin2u> ghfghf7, so you understand the HD limitations of primaries max=4, so you want only 3 and a extehded for the logicals.
[04:43] <soreau> fiber: First, what makes you think it's a kernel panic?
[04:44] <urlin2u> vaev, mine is fn-f7
[04:44] <soreau> vaev: If you're able to disable it from CLI, then there's probably a way to detect the external mouse being plugged and disable the other
[04:44] <dsnyders> dr_willis, It will?  I'll have to give it a try
[04:45] <fiber> soreau, http://imgur.com/txZ41 (picture of my computer after... granted it doesn't say kernel oops so it may be some other sort of panic)
[04:45] <dr_willis> dsnyders:  wife does it all the timp. dvd to k9copy.  she plays the iso
[04:45] <fiber> soreau, on further inspection, it says avahi-daemon is tainted... i think this was recently updated... maybe a reinstall on it?
[04:46] <SIFTU> dr_willis: use must use a lot of space storing ISOs
[04:46] <dr_willis> dsnyders:  takes a lit mire space however
[04:46] <dr_willis> 3tb ysb
[04:46] <dr_willis> usb
[04:46] <SIFTU> dsnyders: just use handbrake.. it will rip and transcode and it's multithreaded
[04:47] <dr_willis> i had issues with handbreak the ither day
[04:47] <soreau> fiber: I'm willing to bet it's a problem with the intel drm module
[04:47] <dsnyders> dr_willis, I have a few TB of space, and I'm only interested in a 10 DVD set at the moment.
[04:47] <soreau> fiber: Try a different kernel version if you can or get more specific support in #intel-gfx
[04:48] <dr_willis> dsnyders:  eack dvd - 4gb with k9 copy. then i rip the iso to video later
[04:48] <fiber> soreau, what would i do to use a different kernel version? just install the right  linux-image-* package?
[04:49] <vaev> soreau: so essentially I'd make for example thru cron something that checks for the presence of a usb mouse and then removes rmmod psmouse with it
[04:49] <soreau> fiber: That's one way I guess.. but typically most kernels in a ubuntu distro are pretty much the same version..
[04:49] <vaev> and when the mouse is no longer detected it will do a modprobe psmouse
[04:50] <soreau> vaev: Ideally you'd want to detect a signal when it's plugged instead of polling with cron, but there's probably a few different ways to go about it
[04:50] <soreau> vaev: Maybe try asking in ##linux to get some ideas
[04:50] <fiber> soreau, ok, cool... i'm going to first try messing with avahi and then try downgrading the kernel
[04:51] <dr_willis> bbl
[04:51] <fiber> soreau, i'll be back in a bit to report what's going on
[04:51] <soreau> fiber: good idea
[04:51] <vaev> soreau: okay thanks
[04:52] <vaev> funny thing is all other fn+function keys work in my vaio but the touchpad disable one :)
[04:53] <soreau> vaev: That's probably the problem you should be trying to fix
[04:53] <vaev> true that. I'll start digging the web
[04:54] <soreau> but if you can automate the process, more power to you ;)
[04:54] <bambanx> anyone is using teamviewer on ubuntu?
[04:54] <soreau> ! anyone | bambanx
[04:55] <bambanx> ?
[04:56] <Datz> hi, my sound stopped working, I'm not sure what I did, but it worked at one point
[04:56] <fiber> soreau, so... `sudo apt-get --reinstall install avahi-daemon` fixed everything up
[04:56] <fiber> soreau, unity still takes forever to load... but it loads
[04:56] <soreau> Datz: Check alsamixer
[04:56] <Datz> I have
[04:57] <soreau> fiber: Oh cool
[04:57] <fiber> soreau, one question... how can i force ubuntu to check my disk on the next boot?
[04:57] <soreau> fiber: I think that was something to do with wireless networking
[04:57] <soreau> fiber: There's a way to do it but I don't know right off hand
[04:57] <fiber> soreau, it's more like configurationless routing... it doesn't automagic network mapping (it's basically apple's bonjour)
[04:58] <fiber> soreau, that's all good... i'll look it up
[04:58] <soreau> Datz: Did you check that all tracks are unmuted and turned up?
[04:59] <soreau> ! sound | Datz
[04:59] <Datz> thanks
[05:02] <klaudia> .
[05:03] <Dollz> can I reconfigure an installed software?
[05:03] <Dollz> using ./configure
[05:04] <soreau> Dollz: That's not how it works, no. What are you trying to do?
[05:04] <xiangzi888> hello,im new here
[05:04] <Dollz> soreau: Im trying to add a configuration option --enable-shared to ffmpeg
[05:05] <soreau> Dollz: Then you will have to build it yourself or find a prebuilt version with this option enabled
[05:05] <Datz> soreau: I get sound when I log out if I mess the pass
[05:06] <Dollz> soreau: so I need to build it again after ./configure ?
[05:06] <Dollz> soreau: can not this be just added to a config file as in windows :) ?
[05:06] <spec_> what's a good GUI process resource viewer app?
[05:06] <Dollz> I miss you windows .
[05:07] <joki3> How do i check what driver i have install that can run my nvidia chip.. or what version my driver is ?
[05:07] <soreau> Dollz: Yes. Use apt-get build-dep ffmpeg to install dependencies for it, then ./configure, make and make install (or whatever the README tells you to do)
[05:07] <soreau> ! compile | Dollz
[05:07] <soreau> spec_: gnome-system-monitor
[05:07] <Dollz> soreau: Ah , now I understand .. thank you
[05:07] <soreau> Dollz: no problem
[05:08] <spec_> thx soreau
[05:08] <soreau> joki3: Check 'gksu jockey-gtk'
[05:08] <joki3> soreau: thanks
[05:10] <dageriv> i got an ethernet mac adress. how can i manually use arp to get the ip of that device?
[05:10] <Snyde> I'm looking to get help on using the 'Open with:' command. Here is mine: 7z x -o $PWD '$0'
[05:10] <Snyde> I'm trying to run it through a shell script
[05:11] <joki3> soreau: That just tells me what i can upgrade to. None of the 2 nvidia drivers there are checked.. Im looking on how to check my current driver.
[05:12] <soreau> dageriv: Maybe try asking in ##networking
[05:13] <soreau> joki3: Look in /var/log/Xorg.0.log then
[05:13] <soreau> joki3: The default is the open nouveau driver
[05:13] <candyflan> as
[05:13] <Tiktalik> How do I check if my graphics driver has openGL support?
[05:14] <soreau> Snyde: I don't really understand what you're trying to do
[05:14] <candyflan> hello noobs
[05:14] <soreau> Tiktalik: What is the last line from 'sudo apt-get install mesa-utils && glxinfo|grep renderer'?
[05:14] <Snyde> Soreau, rather than using Archive Manager for compressed files, I am trying to use the commandline 7z program.
[05:15] <Datz> Sound works for root user, but not me. what should I do?
[05:15] <soreau> Snyde: Try 7z --help
[05:15] <Snyde> I want to extract the file that I double click to the directory in which it resides.
[05:15] <Tiktalik> soreau, OpenGL renderer string: Software Rasterizer
[05:15] <Snyde> I have the command, but getting it to work through the Open with: prompt is another issue.
[05:16] <soreau> Tiktalik: So you don't have direct hardware rendering functioning. Can you pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log file to pastebin.com?
[05:16] <soreau> Snyde: Put it in a script file then
[05:16] <Snyde> I have done this
[05:16] <soreau> Snyde: Did you make the file executable?
[05:16] <apetrescu> Are there any repositories or PPAs for sun-java7-jdk yet? (Rather than the OpenJDK 7?)
[05:17] <apetrescu> f
[05:17] <Snyde> I did indeed.
[05:17] <soreau> ! java | apetrescu
[05:17] <soreau> Snyde: Does it work when you run it from CLI manually?
[05:17] <apetrescu> soreau: I'm specifically asking for Java 7 though, which was recently released. All of the docs around the internet only address Java 6.
[05:18] <apetrescu> Even more specifically, I'm asking for SUN's java 7, rather than the OpenJDK 7 which has deb's available.
[05:18] <soreau> apetrescu: In that case, it probably is not in any repo for the latest release of ubuntu which is all that is supported here
[05:18] <soreau> apetrescu: Maybe try #ubuntu+1
[05:18] <apetrescu> Ah, thanks!
[05:18] <apetrescu> I had tried #ubuntu-java but it's completely dead in there.
[05:18] <urlin2u> apetrescu, if see see none there isn't one.
[05:19] <apetrescu> I'll give #ubuntu+1 a try, thanks
[05:19] <root____> holanda
[05:19] <Tiktalik> soreau, http://pastebin.com/S5Qf2shA
[05:19] <apetrescu> urlin2u: There's plenty of new stuff in random PPAs generally, which is what I'm asking for
[05:20] <Snyde> Soreau: Thanks, I'll try troubleshooting some more, I just assumed my old script would work.
[05:20] <urlin2u> apetrescu, you were looking for  PPAs for sun-java7-jdk if you see none they are not there.
[05:20] <soreau> Tiktalik: Right, so it's using the default open nouveau driver that is not built with experimental 3D support in ubuntu packages
[05:20] <apetrescu> urlin2u: What do you mean by "see none"? Is there some search engine that searches the packages present in all PPAs?
[05:21] <root____> .
[05:21] <soreau> Tiktalik: You will want to install the proprietary nvidia driver to get opengl working
[05:21] <Tiktalik> soreau: how?
[05:21] <urlin2u> apetrescu, well google is one it finds stuff rather well. if you use the correct search words.
[05:21] <soreau> Tiktalik: With jockey-gtk
[05:22] <Tiktalik> soreau: so, install jockey-gtk?
[05:22] <apetrescu> urlin2u: I'm pretty sure Google doesn't index the contents of PPAs...
[05:22] <soreau> Tiktalik: No, run it. It's already installed
[05:22] <Tiktalik> soreau: thanks
[05:22] <soreau> Tiktalik: gksu jockey-gtk
[05:22] <soreau> Tiktalik: Sorry, I thought I already gave you the command but it was someone else
[05:23] <mssever> apetrescu: But a PPA's packages are listed on the PPA page, which *is* indexed by Google
[05:23] <urlin2u> apetrescu, it will find any ppa you want if they are there. for example if you wanted ubuntu tweak search with ubuntu tweak ppa
[05:23] <apetrescu> Ah okay; thanks. I guess this means there aren't any yet, then.
[05:23] <urlin2u> yep
[05:23] <Tiktalik> soreau: thanks man
[05:23] <soreau> Tiktalik: no problem
[05:25] <Snyde> soreau: Is it possible that I need to put './' in the Open with prompt?
[05:26] <ninwa> How do I close a privmsg in irssi? :)
[05:26] <Tiktalik> ninwa: ctrl q, I think
[05:26] <Tiktalik> maybe?
[05:26] <Tiktalik> oh not q
[05:26] <Tiktalik> ninwa: Ctrl+K.
[05:26] <ninwa>  /wc did it
[05:26] <soreau> Snyde: Well actually, you will want to specify the full path to the script if it's not in a location that's in your $PATH
[05:26] <ninwa> Cheers :)
[05:27] <Snyde> I did do ''/home/goose/bin/7zi' where the script is 7zi and goose is my user
[05:28] <Lucid> Looking for java for Ubuntu v11.10
[05:28] <Lucid> recomendations?
[05:28] <mssever> Snyde: Have you tried running your script from the command line to see if it works correctly that way?
[05:28] <soreau> ! 11.10 | Lucid
[05:28] <Snyde> mssever: It does.
[05:28] <mssever> !java | Lucid
[05:28] <Snyde> However, I didn't use $0 obviously
[05:29] <Snyde> Wait, script, hold on..
[05:29] <mssever> Snyde: does it work with files specified as "file:///blah"
[05:29] <crm11four_> well that didn't work
[05:32] <cereal__> getting a lenovo T520, not sure what processor to get,i7-2720QM or i7-2620M, not a power user, dual core would be better for mild gaming but im thinking long term that quadcore will be usefull. thoughts?
[05:32] <urlin2u> cereal_, this is support
[05:32] <soreau> cereal_: Not exclusively related to ubuntu. Maybe try ##hardware
[05:33] <Lucid> I am a linux noob...
[05:33] <Lucid> (12:28:31 AM) ubottu: Lucid: To install a Java runtime on Ubuntu on 10.04 LTS and newer, see http://goo.gl/zwOip -  For the Sun Java products and browser plugin, search for the sun-java6- packages in the !partner repository on Lucid (which must be enabled), or !multiverse repository on older releases.   <----- Not sure what that means.
[05:33] <Datz> soreau: figured it out, apparently something in .pulse was creating the problem
[05:34] <soreau> Datz: ah ok
[05:34] <Snyde> Okay, Well it seems to be a problem with this 7z command internally.
[05:35] <soreau> Snyde: You'll figure it out eventually ;)
[05:35] <Snyde> Yeah, you guys helped me fix a few problems, thanks.
[05:36] <Dollz> should I use this : CFLAGS="-m64 -mtune=athlon64 -pipe -fPIC" to configure a software for my x64 system ?
[05:36] <Dollz> because I'm getting an error :   recompile with -fPIC
[05:37] <soreau> Dollz: No, just configure and build normally unless there's a problem
[05:37] <mssever> Dollz: In general the ./configure script will figure that stuff out automatically
[05:37] <urlin2u> Lucid,  this explains the etc/apt/sources.list  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[05:37] <Dollz> It couldn't and returned an error
[05:37] <Dollz>  recompile with -fPIC
[05:37] <calwig> Hi,  can someone guide me to revert to a previous version of a package?
[05:37] <soreau> Dollz: What is it telling you to rebuild with -fPIC?
[05:37] <Dollz> soreau: ffmpeg
[05:37] <soreau> ! downgrade
[05:37] <calwig> Tor just updated and it broke my connection somewhere
[05:38] <soreau> Dollz: I don't know why you'd want to add all those other flags then
[05:38] <urlin2u> calwig, whats the package?
[05:38] <mssever> calwig: I believe there's an option somewhere in Synaptic to choose an older version
[05:38] <calwig> urlin2u: Tor
[05:38] <calwig> i see
[05:38] <mssever> calwig: Or, read man apt-get or man aptitude
[05:38] <urlin2u> calwig, use the tor browser off there site is best.
[05:38] <Dollz> soreau: I 'm also wondering why
[05:38]  * Lucid slowly becomes more discouraged with linux.
[05:39] <Dollz> soreau: I got that solution from searching ggogle
[05:39] <urlin2u> Lucid, So.
[05:39] <rumpel> calwig, it's called "(version) pinning", afaik
[05:39] <soreau> Lucid: What are you trying to do?
[05:39] <mssever> Lucid: You haven't asked a clear question
[05:39] <calwig> rumpel: i see
[05:39] <Vinn0> anyone knows if iptables can start up after a reboot with rules?
[05:39] <Dollz> soreau: I'm not sure if it is athlon64
[05:39] <soreau> Dollz: Just do 'export CFLAGS="-fPIC"' then try again
[05:39] <calwig> thanks
[05:40] <enotikvp> This is fuck linux! I Hate him!!!!!
[05:40] <almoxarife> Vinn0: it should reload the last good rules it saved
[05:40] <calwig> rumpel: urlin2u mssever let me see what I can find, I need some instructions to do this thanks
[05:40] <soreau> ! language | enotikvp
[05:40] <Dollz> soreau: ok I'm trying , it takes some time
[05:40] <dsnyders> SIFTU, dr_willis, Handbrake seems to be encoding at a rate of 2:1  (ie 3 hours to rip a 1.5 hr dvd).  That's much better than the 13:1 I was getting from OGMRip
[05:40] <Vinn0> almoxarife: so im guessing /etc/iptables.rules is the rules it loads? so i just edit that?
[05:40] <soreau> Dollz: Make sure to rerun configure
[05:41] <Dollz> soreau: yeah sure
[05:41] <mssever> calwig: The man page is probably the best resource. I know that downgrading is possible, but I've never tried it
[05:41] <SIFTU> dsnyders: wow.. what cpu have you got there.. mine usually take about 30 mins
[05:41] <almoxarife> Vinn0: no, I don't think you edit that
[05:41]  * calwig is DOWNGRADING...
[05:43] <urlin2u> calwig, the best to use is the browser bundle from tor. http://www.torproject.org/download/download.html.en
[05:43] <Lucid> soreau: I am looking for a universal app to run basic Java  java.  I am taking it that it is not as simple as all that.
[05:44] <soreau> Lucid: Which version of ubuntu do you have installed?
[05:44] <dsnyders> SIFTU, I'm not sure.  The system monitor says processor 0 and processor 1 are Pentium 4s running at 3.2 GHz
[05:44] <Lucid> 11.10
[05:45] <ActionParsnip> Lucid: you can run: java filename.jar    and it will run..
[05:45] <urlin2u> Lucid, you stated you were a noob that is a development release not very stable.
[05:45] <dsnyders> SIFTU, They're both running at about 100%
[05:45] <soreau> ! 11.10 | Lucid
[05:46] <soreau> Lucid: The latest version of ubuntu supported here is 11.04 until 11.10 is released officially
[05:46] <calwig> it worked guys thanks
[05:46] <almoxarife> urlin2u: I beg to differ, 11.10 is running splendidly today, it was yesterday no one had a 'suspend' option
[05:46] <soreau> calwig: Cool, how did you downgrade it?
[05:47] <calwig> soreau: Synaptic toolbar has a section to find a previous version
[05:47] <soreau> almoxarife: Either way, 11.10 is not supported here yet
[05:47] <ActionParsnip> Lucid: oneiric is also offtopic here, ask in #ubuntu+1 please
[05:47] <SIFTU> dsnyders: yep, well thats as fast as it will go.. FYI you could find your exact CPU by "cat /proc/cpuinfo|grep -i "model name"|uniq"
[05:47] <soreau> calwig: right on
[05:47] <urlin2u> almoxarife, this is not the I beg to differ channel, and your and mine run good but not everybodies.
[05:48] <urlin2u> yours
[05:48] <calwig> soreau: totally. though i still need to upgrade. weird that the upgrade causes a connection to TorK to break
[05:49] <soreau> calwig: Take note of the good and bad versions. Maybe file a bug report
[05:50] <calwig> soreau: im with the tor devel team now. Definitely will hehe
[05:50] <soreau> calwig: Ah, in that case, skip the report and fix it! ;)
[05:51] <ActionParsnip> Touche
[05:51] <calwig> soreau: yeah its happened before, i wonder
[05:52] <Dreamer3> after i call set -e in a bash script is there a way to revert it?
[05:52] <redboat> does it fail when looking for modversions.h
[05:53] <redboat> why does it fail when looking for modversions.h
[05:53] <redboat> ????
[05:55] <redboat> fatal error: /lib/modules/2.6.38-8-generic-pae/build/include/linux/modversions.h: No such file or directory
[05:55] <redboat> what does it mean???
[05:55] <glebihan> redboat, what command gives you this error ?
[05:56] <redboat> make
[05:56] <redboat> i AM TRYING TO INSTALL FTDI DRIVER
[05:57] <soreau> redboat: Do you have kernel headers installed?
[05:57] <soreau> ! compile | redboat
[05:58] <redboat> i dont know all that stuff this is the webpage http://www.ftdichip.com/Drivers/VCP.htm
[05:58] <gbear14275> hello... could someone help me with this instruction set.. I don't seem to be getting any traction in #linux
[05:58] <gbear14275> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=817897
[05:59] <gbear14275> and now I think I've run into a problem where my stick wont mount anymore ...
[05:59] <gbear14275> would really appreciate any time... hopefully a quick few mentorings
[05:59] <Nach0z> .w 44
[05:59] <Nach0z> ...dadgummit. stupid aliases...
[06:00] <redboat> its getting late i will read the link you saID LATER
[06:00] <redboat> thanks
[06:00] <soreau> gbear14275: Unless you have a question that's specific to ubuntu, we can't help you with that here
[06:00] <soreau> gbear14275: It's certainly not a trivial task to upgrade any BIOS
[06:01] <gbear14275> soreau, right now what I need help with is when I insert my USB stick it no longer mounts like it used to automatically in Ubuntu.  I can see it using lsusb... but ubuntu wont mount it anymore
[06:01] <soreau> gbear14275: Does it have a valid file system on it?
[06:01] <redboat> this is the full string....
[06:01] <redboat> trb@trb-A770E3:~$ tar -xvf ftdi_sio.tar
[06:01] <redboat> ftdi_sio/
[06:01] <redboat> ftdi_sio/Rules.make
[06:01] <redboat> ftdi_sio/ftdi_sio.c
[06:01] <redboat> ftdi_sio/ftdi_sio.h
[06:01] <FloodBot1> redboat: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:01] <redboat> ftdi_sio/Makefile
[06:01] <gbear14275> soreau, not sure...
[06:02] <icesword> !mountusb
[06:02] <urlin2u> gbear14275, do you have a backup of your disc?
[06:02] <soreau> gbear14275: While it's plugged in, what does 'sudo fdisk -l' say?
[06:03] <soreau> gbear14275: Specifically, about the usb stick
[06:03] <gbear14275> soreau, when I tried sudo dd if=win98usb.img of=[USB device] conv=notrunc  I used /dev/sdb1 as my usb root... i think that might be why it won't mount anymore
[06:03] <gbear14275> but... I'm not sure
[06:03] <soreau> gbear14275: Also after you plug it in, check the output of 'dmesg|tail' to see what that says
[06:03] <soreau> gbear14275: And maybe try mounting the device node to a mount point directory
[06:04] <redboat> any more comments about the string???
[06:04] <gbear14275> soreau, uh... nvm it looks like its there.. one sec... filing a report in #freenode
[06:04] <quint> i am using xubuntu. when i have a silent bash startup script enabled { bash -c "cd /somedir/ blahblah.sh" & } i get this little square in the top left of my screen. it looks like it was trying to draw a window or something but failed, there is just a shadow outline. how can i make this shadow outline go away?
[06:05] <devkorcvince> where can i ask about the ubuntu app developer week?
[06:05] <soreau> redboat: You need to pastebin the full output to pastebin.com instead of trying to flood it here
[06:05] <photon> hi. while trying to install software with apt-get, apt-get also wants to remove software and I have no idea why. Also, the to-be-removed software packages have a {u} after their name. What's going on here and is it safe to proceed? Output: http://pastebin.com/UXCGaPeg
[06:06] <rww> photon: they're probably marked as automatically installed and have no packages that depend on them. since they're all library packages or similar, should be fine to remove
[06:06] <photon> rww: alright, thanks.
[06:07] <quint> why is my bash startup script that ends with "&" causing something to draw a little square shadow in the top left corner of my desktop ?
[06:07] <photon> rww: weird, just started that command again and now they don't show up, although I aborted the previous execution.
[06:08] <soreau> quint: There's a lot of things wrong with that question..
[06:08] <soreau> quint: First, what are you running in your script?
[06:08] <quint> bash -c "cd /somedir/ blahblah.sh" &
[06:09] <soreau> photon: Try 'apt-get autoremove'
[06:09] <photon> soreau: does nothing, either.
[06:09] <soreau> quint: Perhaps it's creating a 0x0 window at 0x0y
[06:09] <photon> soreau: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[06:09] <soreau> photon: weird
[06:10] <quint> just running the script normally does not cause that
[06:10] <quint> it only happens when i run it using the startup application setting
[06:10] <photon> yes, I know that behavior (square shadow in the top left corner). for me, it's almost always a window that is too small to display.
[06:10] <photon> try to resize it.
[06:10] <quint> photon, it isn't an actual window
[06:13] <quint> be right back
[06:18] <MissingPerson> i'm having a problem in 11.04 getting openvpn w/ password working, after importing the configuration settings provided by my vpn provider, it says "The VPN connection failed because there are no valid VPN secrets."  This never happened to me on Fedora, unsure what to do.
[06:19] <soreau> ! openvpn | MissingPerson
[06:20] <MissingPerson> soreau: already have openvpn installed, as well as network-manager-openvpn-gnome, but when i configure and attempt connections, that's the error i get
[06:21] <soreau> MissingPerson: Maybe try #openvpn
[06:27] <sburwood1> I have both a desktop computer and a portable one.  Each want to install things (opera and libnss for the portable, libnss for the desktop) but both come against a refusal because of the untrusted source.  What do I do?
[06:28] <icesword> !info opera
[06:28] <Spo> I am a newb, and I have having problems with my Ubuntu crashing - anyone up to help me out?
[06:29] <Dollz> why when I apt-get install gcc , it installs version 4.4.3, althought the current version is 4.6
[06:31] <nikolaj_basher> When I try to install rails wiht gem it seems to be installed but it isn't ? how can i solve it (I installed it with gem and Ruby with rvm)
[06:31] <Spo> I have having problems with my Ubuntu crashing - (complete lockup) what is the best log file to look at first?
[06:35] <Spo> I am having problems with my Ubuntu crashing - (complete lockup) what is the best log file to look at first?
[06:36] <icesword> what you mean lock up?
[06:36] <soreau> Spo: Probably /var/log/syslog or messages
[06:37] <Spo> will not come out of screen saver, will not go to console (ctrl-alt-f1)
[06:37] <Dollz> why when I apt-get install gcc , it installs version 4.4.3, althought the current version is 4.6
[06:38] <learner> i also hav a problem after booting into ubuntu 10.10 computer hangs after 10 or 15 min...anyone know wats the problem
[06:38] <soreau> Dollz: It's probably installing whatever's latest in ubuntu repos for the version of ubuntu you're using
[06:39] <Dollz> soreau: oh , so I should compile it myself ?
[06:39] <soreau> Dollz: If you really need latest gcc..
[06:39] <soreau> Dollz: Though I can't see why you'd need it
[06:40] <gentoo-intel> 4.6 isnt stable afaik
[06:40] <Dollz> soreau: the problem that I have "ffmpeg can not be used when making a shared object; recompile with -fPIC"
[06:40] <nightripe> hi, i'm using evolution mail, but i don't have click "let messages on server" and i've got 70 mails in my evolution....but i would like to put again my mail on hotmail server, how can i do ? (sorry for my english)
[06:40] <Dollz> soreau: it still exists after running the export thing
[06:41] <Dollz> soreau: someone suggested that : #pragma GCC visibility ...
[06:41] <soreau> Dollz: Upgrading gcc wont help. You just need to rebuild ffmpeg with -fPIC
[06:42] <Dollz> soreau: yep , but I tried this , and i couldnt .. I want to make shared and not static
[06:42] <Dollz> soreau: threr are five solutions as I read: (1) static (like it was before) (2) #pragma GCC visibility ... (3) ld -Bsymbolic (4) ld --version-script ... (5) implement full PIC access (double deference, not just rip-relative).
[06:42] <soreau> Dollz: Well AFAICT, you do not need newer gcc
[06:43] <Dollz> soreau: I read that the newer gcc has # pragma GCC visibility set already
[06:43] <Dollz> soreau: so , I don't have to mess with it
[06:43] <soreau> Dollz: It's really beyond the scope of this channel. Maybe try #ffmpeg
[06:44] <Dollz> soreau: I asked that before there , and no one answered me at all :(
[06:45] <Dollz> soreau: should I try again with the -fPIC solution ?
[06:45] <soreau> Dollz: Since that is what the message is telling you, probably so
[06:46] <Dollz> soreau: k , thank you
[06:46] <soreau> Dollz: You may need to set CXXFLAGS as well if there's C++ involved
[06:47] <Dollz> soreau: k , will do that
[06:50] <Spo> I looked in the syslog, and I am seeing this "kernel:  ata5.0: status: { DRDY ERR }
[06:51] <Spo> and ata5.00 error: {ABRT}
[06:51] <Spo> right before the crash
[06:55] <vlt> Spo: I missed your initial question. Where did you find those ata messages?
[06:55] <Kartagis> hi
[06:55] <Spo> I found them in /var/log/syslog -  my computer is crashing and I am trying to figure out why
[06:55] <Kartagis> I have a problem
[06:56] <Kartagis> I see my cron running in the syslog, but what's inside don't get executed. why?
[06:57] <Kartagis> because that user is not logged in?
[06:57] <Guest> hmm
[06:59] <vlt> Spo: How many hard disks do you have?
[06:59] <Spo> 10
[06:59] <Spo> 1 solo boot drive, 9 in raid 5
[06:59] <vlt> Spo: Intel board with onboard SATA?
[07:00] <Spo> definately onboard sata
[07:00] <Spo> it is an AMD proc
[07:00] <Spo> quad core
[07:00] <Myrtti> !enter
[07:01] <vlt> Spo: Kernel 2.6.32?
[07:01] <Spo> 8 sata onboard, 2 sata by IDE controller card - everythihng was working fine, one HDD had errors, and was booted from the cluster, I replaced that HDD and the cluster rebuilt, but now this crashing problem
[07:02] <MissingPerson> i'm having a problem in 11.04 getting openvpn w/ password working, after importing the configuration settings provided by my vpn provider, it says "The VPN connection failed because there are no valid VPN secrets."  This never happened to me on Fedora, unsure what to do.  I do have openvpn and network-manager-openvpn-gnome installed.
[07:02] <Spo> I was using Ubuntu 10.10, but since it was crashing, I upgraded to 11.4 hoping the crashing would quit... it has not
[07:03] <MissingPerson> sorry for reasking, but i had to teach a class, and when i got back, my chat was cleared
[07:04] <Spo> how do I check kernel ver?
[07:04] <vlt> Spo: "uname -a"
[07:04] <Spo> kernel is 2.6.38-11
[07:05] <lol> hello
[07:06]  * lol ZZZzzzz
[07:07] <Guest> hi
[07:07] <vlt> Spo: The message says there's a problem with the drive.  I had problems with the very same errors and crashing for weeks on Intel boards and its SATA chip. I replaced the complete hardware but the error remained. Until I switched to another kernel (3.0). Runs rock stable since then.
[07:08] <Tsunami99> Hi all...
[07:08] <Spo> vlt: what is the best way to get that kernel?
[07:08] <Tsunami99> I need some help can I find it here??
[07:09] <urlin2u> Tsunami99, ask your question and see. :D
[07:09] <Myrtti> Tsunami99: don't know what your problem is so it's hard to promise that you can be helped
[07:09] <vlt> Spo: I got it from kernel.org and compiled it myself.
[07:09] <Tsunami99> my problem in ubuntu is:The panel encountered a problem while loading
[07:09] <Tsunami99> I have this message everytime I login??
[07:09] <Tsunami99> How can I fix it last time my icons all crashed and I could not open any icon or folder??
[07:10] <Spo> vlt:  site is down for maint - what do I need to know to compile the kernel once I get it, (explanation or webpage would be great)
[07:10] <Tsunami99> I searched about it till now no clear solution, I use ubunti 11.04 stable,,,
[07:10] <darrin>  thank you
[07:10] <Tsunami99> any suggestion for me??
[07:11] <urlin2u> Tsunami99, classic or unity desktop?
[07:11] <Tsunami99> classic
[07:11] <urlin2u> Tsunami99, have you tweaked compiz?
[07:11] <darrin> Hello could someone please tell me how t import my bookmarks into firefox? thank you
[07:12] <Tsunami99> I removed compiz from my system after I though its the source of the problem
[07:12] <urlin2u> darrin, do you know of firefox sync?
[07:13] <darrin> No
[07:13] <urlin2u> darrin, I use it to sync all my firefox setups, has a passwoed and a sync key pretty safe.
[07:13] <darrin> but i could look it up... Thank you for giving me a direction to go in .
[07:14] <urlin2u> darrin, you should see it in the browser what version are you running?
[07:14] <Tsunami99> any suggestion...
[07:14] <darrin> the latest  6
[07:14]  * [DeVil-BoY] hello
[07:14] <vlt> Spo: I can't find a good tutorial now. Maybe there's an easier way if you could find a PPA for a newer kernel.
[07:15] <urlin2u> Tsunami99, hard to say as you removed compiz so it would be using metacity, try in the terminal if you can metacity --replace
[07:16] <Tsunami99> TI have this problem repeating for me with different notification description once about the trashcanPapplet and other issue the message is:the panel encountered a problem while loading
[07:16] <vlt> Spo: Something like https://launchpad.net/~kernel-ppa/+archive/ppa
[07:16] <Tsunami99> any suggestion to fix the panael probkem??
[07:16] <Spo> vlt: thanks for all your help
[07:16] <urlin2u> Tsunami99, killall gnome-panel
[07:16] <urlin2u> hopefully
[07:17] <Tsunami99> why??
[07:17] <urlin2u> Tsunami99, it restarts it.
[07:17] <Tsunami99> will it remove it or what??
[07:17] <Tsunami99> what is the code??
[07:17] <urlin2u> shouldn't the classic is differnt though slightly.
[07:18] <urlin2u> Tsunami99, for the panel  killall gnome-panel
[07:18] <darrin> urlin2u Thank you for the info very helpful and very fast... Thanks again
[07:18] <soreau> ! resetpanel | Tsunami99
[07:18] <urlin2u> darrin, no problem.
[07:19] <Tsunami99> urlin2u, I will check it now
[07:19] <urlin2u> Tsunami99, look at tthe bot message as well.
[07:20] <urlin2u> the*
, what do you mean??
[07:20] <urlin2u> Tsunami99, ubottu is a bot.
[07:22] <ktwo> is there a gmail app (wich works like andorid) for ubuntu to web, but direct interface)
[07:23] <Tsunami99> urlin2u, I killed the panel and restore it to default will it be enough to solve the problem??
[07:25] <MissingPerson> i'm having a problem in 11.04 getting openvpn w/ password working, after importing the configuration settings provided by my vpn provider, it says "The VPN connection failed because there are no valid VPN secrets."  This never happened to me on Fedora, unsure what to do.  I do have openvpn and network-manager-openvpn-gnome installed.
[07:25] <soreau> MissingPerson: No response in #openvpn?
[07:26] <soreau> MissingPerson: You aren't even in #openvpn
[07:26] <urlin2u> Tsunami99, your fixating on the kill command just run what the bot said.
[07:26] <MissingPerson> didn't even realize they had a channel
[07:26] <soreau> MissingPerson: I told you that about half an hour or more ago
[07:27] <soreau> MissingPerson: exactly one hour ago
[07:27] <MissingPerson> soreau: yeah, sorry, somehow my chat got cleared when i walked away from my desk
[07:27] <Tsunami99> urlin2u, sorry to ask you I did not understand what the bot said and where it it!! :(
[07:28] <soreau> ! resetpanel | Tsunami99
[07:29] <Kartagis> I see my cron running in the syslog, but what's inside don't get executed. why?
[07:29] <soreau> Kartagis: What makes you think it's not being executed?
[07:29] <Sterist> how come all my updates as well as attempts to install new software error with "requires installation of untrusted packages" ?
[07:30] <soreau> ubottu: ping
[07:30] <Kartagis> soreau: it's supposed to run a bot, it's not
[07:30] <soreau> !ping
[07:30] <urlin2u> Sterist, do you see keys missing?
[07:30] <soreau> ! resetpanel | Tsunami99
[07:30] <Sterist> urlin2u i dont.... know?
[07:30] <Sterist> urlin2u how do i check this
[07:31] <urlin2u> Sterist, pastebin the whole update.
[07:31] <soreau> Kartagis: Well either your cron time isn't what you think it is, your command is faulty or the environment is lacking
[07:31] <Tsunami99> ubottu, I have done that..
[07:31] <urlin2u> Sterist, http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[07:31] <soreau> Kartagis: Did you specify the full path to the command?
[07:31] <Sterist> urlin2u the packages in the update or the error notes?
[07:31] <Tsunami99> ubottu, will it solve it??
[07:32] <urlin2u> Sterist, the whole thing including the command
[07:32] <MissingPerson> soreau: no dice in #openvpn
[07:32] <Kartagis> soreau: this is my cron output from syslog: Sep  9 10:20:01 vps CRON[7786]: (iegg) CMD (PYTHONPATH=/home/iegg/f0und/f0und/lib/python2.6/site-packages /home/iegg/f0und/bin/supybot-botchk --botdir=/home/iegg/f0und/bin --pidfile=/home/iegg/f0und/bin/pid.f0und-fn --conffile=/home/iegg/f0und/bin/f0und-fn.conf --supybot=/home/iegg/f0und/bin/supybot)
[07:32] <urlin2u> Sterist, run in the terminal sudo apt-get update
[07:32] <Tsunami99> ubottu, will it solve it??
[07:32] <soreau> MissingPerson: Keep trying. It's your best bet
[07:32] <MissingPerson> they refuse to play ball unless i'm using 10.04 AND a non-network-manager client
[07:32] <Kartagis> !ubottu | Tsunami99
[07:33] <soreau> MissingPerson: Well maybe you should listen to what they're telling you
[07:33] <urlin2u> Tsunami99, that question is like asking if I drive wil I get in a wreck, chances are no.
[07:33] <soreau> Kartagis: Maybe your cron time is wrong
[07:33] <MissingPerson> i've had nothing but bad experiences with wicd and don't know anything else to use but network-manager
[07:34] <Kartagis> soreau: what do you mean by that? my package, or my command?
[07:34] <Sterist> urlin2u i just gave it another try and the updates are working now. i cancelled a "check" (--for new updates) and that seems to have been the culprit. did another check and works
[07:34] <Tsunami99> urlin2u, I apology again and I really appreciate your responses to me, wish you all the best..
[07:34] <soreau> Kartagis: I mean the cron setting to tell it when to run the command
[07:34] <urlin2u> Tsunami99, no problem ubottu is a bot for the channel so the info is accurate.
[07:36] <urlin2u> Sterist, untrusted usually means you have added a 3rd party repo and not the key.
[07:36] <Wiz_KeeD> hey guys, how do i setup dual monitor in ubuntu 10.4?
[07:36] <urlin2u> Wiz_KeeD, monitors.
[07:36] <Wiz_KeeD> didn't work, i click detect i see only one
[07:37] <Wiz_KeeD> i can move mi cursor on the right
[07:37] <urlin2u> Wiz_KeeD, look closer for a box.
[07:37] <Wiz_KeeD> on the right monitor yet when i go to monitors
[07:37] <Wiz_KeeD> there is just one big pink one called vbox
[07:37] <Wiz_KeeD> vbx sorry
[07:37] <Wiz_KeeD> that's it
 thanks all for your support I will logout to see whether the problem will stay or not..  :)
[07:37] <Wiz_KeeD> not like in this tutorial http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2009/08/ubuntu-tips-how-to-setup-dual-monitor/
[07:38] <Wiz_KeeD> paradoxaly i also have dell
[07:38] <user_> Vsem privet.
[07:39] <Sterist> urlin2u yeah but i havent done that so unless there's some kind of remote hacking going around i should be okay :) sometimes solutions are simpler than they appear
[07:39] <urlin2u> Wiz_KeeD, you have the mirrior box off right
[07:39] <urlin2u> mirror*
[07:40] <Wiz_KeeD> it's a virtual box btw
[07:40] <Wiz_KeeD> mirror box off right?
[07:40] <urlin2u> Wiz_KeeD, not sure you can do it there really.
[07:41] <urlin2u> Wiz_KeeD, what is the host?
[07:41] <Wiz_KeeD> win 7 64 bit
[07:42] <urlin2u> Wiz_KeeD, so your trying to set the dual in the host,so you can have Windows in one and the vbox in anothwer
[07:42] <urlin2u> another
[07:42] <urlin2u> sorry guest
[07:47] <Bash> I have installed Ubuntu (and grub) on /sdc5, have windows on /sda2, I have configured grub and it recognizes windows7 and all but when I try to boot the computer all I get is a blinking cursor. What gives?
[07:48] <Bash> Do the sd*'s get mixed up after I boot or something?
[07:51] <urlin2u> Bash, you installed grub in the partition, easiest way to fix this is to see where everythinig is run this script from the booted live cd and [astebin the results.txt   http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/
[07:51] <urlin2u> pastebin*
[07:52] <varikonniemi> i find it interesting that bootinfoscript is endorsed here, but why is it not bundled with ubuntu installation
[07:53] <varikonniemi> wouldn't it be easier to just have a option on the ubuntu boot cd "boot info"
[07:55] <urlin2u> varikonniemi, the script is modified at times for better reading, so it would be outdated shortly at times with just grub changes.
[07:55] <Bash> urlin2u: http://pastebin.com/WLh3DD2X
[07:55] <Bash> .. and I know it's messy.
[07:56] <varikonniemi> well better than nothing still?
[07:56] <varikonniemi> i do not have the skill to start stabbing my linux if it borks up
[07:56] <varikonniemi> its infinitely easier to just format and reinstall
[07:56] <hostdream> even I'm using the http://pastie.org/2496275 as partition table in my preseed, I've the box asking me for the confirmation to write change to disk, how can I avoid this ? Can anyone help on this ? :)
[07:56] <urlin2u> Bash, you have grub in sda, it should be in the sdc mbr, and the sdc the firts read to boot.
[07:57] <varikonniemi> ubuntu is fine and dandy as long as it works, if it fails.. you are out of luck
[07:59] <vibhav> varikonniemi" if it fails ,  you are out of luck".......that is whY IRC was invented
[07:59] <urlin2u> Bash, if you use the Natty disc you can use the commands where this page defaults to read carefully.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Copy_LiveCD_Files
[07:59] <varikonniemi> well i have no luck asking my questions here, so what would you suggest as a place to start ?
[07:59] <Bash> urlin2u: But sda is my untouched windows7 drive which I have flagged to not be bootable, and I have sdc5 to be the only bootable.
[07:59] <Bash> urlin2u: Yeah, in now via flash drive. Will have a looksie.
[08:00] <vibhav> varikonniemi forums
[08:00] <varikonniemi> yesterday i asked two or three times how to get alt-tab working in games and no answer. So i just settled for "its a feature, it does not"
[08:01] <rumpel> varikonniemi, which desktop-environment?
[08:01] <vibhav> Bash search for grub rescue disk on google
[08:01] <urlin2u> Bash, the sda mbr is where the grub bootloader went, it should be in the sdc HD mbr. YOIu can reload the windows bootloader to the sda with a windows recovery disc booted to the repaier terminal, and run bootrec.exe /fixmbr
[08:02] <Bash> vibhav: Was just about to say I've tried Boot Repair,
[08:02] <jigal> hello this gives a permission denied ~$ sudo ssh -T git@github.com
[08:02] <jigal> any id?
[08:02] <varikonniemi> ubuntu 11.04
[08:02] <varikonniemi> rumba,
[08:02] <varikonniemi> rumpel,
[08:02] <urlin2u> vibhav, your muttering a weasy fix here.
[08:02] <vibhav> jigal could be a server error
[08:02] <Bash> urlin2u: Alright. No worries about the windows loader, how do I force it to go to sdc mbr?
[08:02] <urlin2u> easy*
[08:03] <photon> !bluray
[08:03] <rumpel> varikonniemi, i meant like unity, gnome, kde...
[08:03] <varikonniemi> well kubuntu is kde
[08:03] <vibhav> urlin2u. ok youre the best
[08:03] <Bash> urlin2u: Keep in mind that I have a seperate windows partition at the start of that partition table, does it matter?
[08:03] <varikonniemi> ubuntu is unity
[08:03] <varikonniemi> so yes, unity
[08:03] <urlin2u> bash I posted a link to reloading grub from the natty cd, it defaults to it a rather easy job.
[08:03] <rumpel> varikonniemi, not necessarily
[08:03] <Guest> ubuntu is a distro
[08:03] <varikonniemi> no but if i made a mod that big i would mention it
[08:04] <Guest> unity is not a distro so ubuntu is not unity
[08:04] <varikonniemi> by default it is
[08:04] <Guest> you mean Ubuntu 11.04 uses Unity by default
[08:04] <vibhav> guest unity is a desktop environment for Ubuntulog
[08:04] <Guest> you can change that
[08:04] <asdjaputra> Guest yes you can
[08:04] <vibhav> *ubuntu
[08:04] <rumpel> varikonniemi, i guess you can write a script, which toggles certain shortcuts via gconf.
[08:05] <Bash> urlin2u: Just to be clear, it doesn't matter that I have a windows disk (non-boot) at the beginning of the partition table?
[08:05] <urlin2u> Bash, ypu can boot the ubuntu cd and run sudo fdisk -l and pastebin the out put and I will give you the commands to run.
[08:05] <varikonniemi> rumpel, now you are teaching hebrew to a infant
[08:05] <vibhav> Guest you can install other environments like LXDE or KDE
[08:05] <varikonniemi> same territory as "compile it yourself"
[08:06] <vibhav> varikonniemi your use of words impress me
[08:06] <rumpel> varikonniemi, or you can look for the shortcut-settings in unity and deactivate the "alt-tab" shortcut (if you otherwise don't need it)
[08:06] <Bash> urlin2u: http://pastebin.com/ZesnDdyx
[08:06] <urlin2u> Bash, grub will boot windows for you, I only suggested putting its bootloader back for if you removed ubuntu it would still boot on its own.
[08:06] <rumpel> varikonniemi, that's the userfriendliest solution i can think of
[08:06] <photon> hi. how well is burning own bluray discs supported in 11.04? what software and what burner can you recommend?
[08:06] <Bash> urlin2u: Gotcha.
[08:06] <varikonniemi> yes, thanks for your input
[08:06] <varikonniemi> my skills are not good enough for that
[08:07] <asdjaputra> trolling?
[08:07] <varikonniemi> if you cannot find a step by step guide that is
[08:07] <vibhav> photon my laptop burns bluray disks
[08:07] <vibhav> but it uses 10.10
[08:07] <photon> vibhav: have you tried it?
[08:08] <photon> vibhav: that is, have you actually burned one with ubuntu?
[08:08] <diverdude> hello. for some reason tab-completion in my terminal is acting strange. When i tab-complete directories it appends a whitespace in the end instead of a /. How can i change this to / again?
[08:08] <vibhav> the was a guide in some forum but i forget its link
[08:08] <vibhav> their
[08:08] <vibhav> there
[08:09] <photon> vibhav: again, have you actually burned a bluray disc with ubuntu?
[08:10] <urlin2u> Bash, http://paste.ubuntu.com/685811/
[08:10] <asdjaputra> photon, you're asking an experienced user on burning a bluray disc?
[08:10] <asdjaputra> photon, you can always search the forums for that, i'll grab one for you in a sec
[08:10] <photon> asdjaputra: no, that's not what I am asking.
[08:11] <ActionParsnip> vibhav: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/10/easy-blu-ray-movie-playback-in-linux/
[08:11] <asdjaputra> the softwares and burner, yes
[08:11] <vibhav> photon yes
[08:11] <ActionParsnip> vibhav: will help playback (maybe)
[08:11] <asdjaputra> photon,  http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/10/easy-blu-ray-movie-playback-in-linux/
[08:11] <Bash> Right, thanks urlin2u! Will tinker away with this.
[08:11] <vibhav> ActionParsnip thia guide is similar to the one i used
[08:11] <urlin2u> Bash, just the two commands and reboot the update-grub is inside the install.
[08:12] <vibhav> ActionParsnip btw my laptop allready can ro that
[08:12] <photon> asdjaputra: and how would *playing* a blu ray *movie* help me in finding a linux-compatible bluray *burner*?
[08:12] <rumpel> diverdude, have you tried reinstalling the package "bash-completion"?
[08:12] <diverdude> Anyone?
[08:13] <diverdude> rumpel: no, do you think that would help?
[08:13] <vibhav> photon My laptop has a LG burner
[08:13] <asdjaputra> photon, i just copy what ActionParsnip said
[08:14] <madeinbl> hi
[08:14] <sinistrad> Photon, I'm using an LG burner on my desktop with 11.04 and it works with Nero for Linux
[08:14] <madeinbl> anyone tryed natty yet?
[08:14] <Guest> you can change that
[08:14] <Guest> sry
[08:14] <madeinbl> how does it support drivers?
[08:14] <bjarni> Hello everyone.  I have ubuntu 9.10 (64 bit) using gnome on my laptop and planning to upgrade to the latest version (11.04 I believe), preferably 32 bit.   Can you advice me on this?
[08:14] <photon> sinistrad: uh ok. isn't nero for linux shareware?
[08:15] <Guest> sinistrad: nexro for linux is paid ofc
[08:15] <Guest> nero
[08:15] <sinistrad> Photon, it was purchased, yes. Was you wanting only open source?
[08:15] <urlin2u> ! detail | madeinbl
[08:15] <photon> sinistrad: I'd prefer that.
[08:16] <asdjaputra> photon, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CdDvd/Burning
[08:16] <photon> sinistrad: I've found some people have had problems with LG burners and burning bluray in general.
[08:16] <photon> sinistrad: under Linux that is
[08:16] <madeinbl> well things like webcame  audiodriver, had previous trouble with that
[08:16] <ActionParsnip> madeinbl: its fine
[08:16] <asdjaputra> photon, there's a blu ray burner part below
[08:16] <madeinbl> noe i am runing super os
[08:16] <madeinbl> and its runing fine
[08:16] <ActionParsnip> madeinbl: install cheese, does it show in that ?
[08:16] <madeinbl> well it rompts me to upgrade to natty
[08:16] <ActionParsnip> madeinbl: superOS is offtopic here
[08:17] <sinistrad> Photon, I have used k3b as well, but I don't recall how it did for actually burning movies.
[08:17] <vibhav> even I use k3b
[08:18] <madeinbl> is there any way to change sidekick menu in natty to more standart desktop
[08:18] <madeinbl> ?
[08:18] <photon> sinistrad: I don't want to burn movies, I just want to burn large files that do not fit on a DVD.
[08:18] <varikonniemi> tenX is accusing me of lying when i say that on windows7 you can alt-tab out of a game, and that no-one really need this functionality. Is this really the majority stance here?
[08:19] <ActionParsnip> photon: devede will change quality so it fits
[08:19] <asdjaputra> photon, try an UFD
[08:19] <tenX> varikonniemi: do you really need to take this in here?
[08:20] <tenX> varikonniemi: never accused you of anything, just disliked your uneducated approach
[08:20] <asdjaputra> tenX, what is he talking about?
[08:20] <varikonniemi> well i would not be asking for help if i were not uneducated?
[08:20] <lighta> hey guys, quick question is ther a way to scrool up with screen -x option ?
[08:22] <tenX> asdjaputra: he wants to alt+tab from within a game (whatever game on linux) to the next desktop app. told him the game will catch keystrokes like that for good reasons and i'm also pretty sure that doesnt work on windoze. the win key brings you back
[08:23] <varikonniemi> i never use the win key, i alt-tab out of games
[08:23] <VxQe> tenX, it does work in windows
[08:23] <VxQe> I am sure there is a workaround to get that working in ubuntu
[08:23] <tenX> asdjaputra: and now he starts this that is worthless and boring
[08:23] <asdjaputra> in linux?
[08:24] <asdjaputra> you could always edit the pref. to fullscreen - 0
 and i'm a damn professional
 tenX, it does work in windows
[08:24] <varikonniemi> a professional eh?
[08:24] <tenX> VxQe: k sure. not that i claimed to know. thought so. if you tell me i'll believe it
[08:24] <tenX> VxQe: dont see what he's upset about
[08:24] <asdjaputra> alt-tab works in every game i played in linux for now
[08:24] <oCean> please drop the offtopic discussion, this is ubuntu only
[08:25] <varikonniemi> asdjaputra, spring rts
[08:25] <varikonniemi> is the one i am talking about
[08:25] <asdjaputra> varikonniemi, will try, maybe there's a workaround to alt-tab
[08:25] <asdjaputra> i'll let you know when i got it
[08:25] <varikonniemi> ok
[08:25] <varikonniemi> thanks
[08:25] <tenX> oCean: sure i'll stop right ahead. dunno why he starts this here we had a little query
[08:26] <varikonniemi> yes i will stop also, my question was a general "how to get alt-tab workin in ubuntu, even in games"
[08:26] <varikonniemi> so originally it was not off topic, to my discretion
[08:26] <oCean> varikonniemi: enough said, let's move on now
[08:26] <varikonniemi> yes
[08:26] <varikonniemi> as i said
[08:27] <asdjaputra> varikonniemi, alt-tab works by default in ubuntu
[08:29] <VxQe> varikonniemi, I just use windows to play games.
[08:29] <varikonniemi> are you trolling me?
[08:29] <Guest> !ot
[08:29] <VxQe> In anycase, the problem is that ubuntu defers the keystrokes to the fullscreen app
[08:30] <VxQe> and doesn't capture the alt-tab
[08:30] <tenX> VxQe: see what i mean
[08:30] <VxQe> Which is what it's meant to do
[08:30] <varikonniemi> i want to play spring rts on ubuntu, not windows. i want to get alt-tab working in spring.
[08:30] <asdjaputra> let's take this to ot
[08:30] <vibhav> is bot tgus topic !ot?
[08:30] <VxQe> However there is quite possibly some other way around this.
[08:30] <varikonniemi> yeah i am searching the forums as we speak
[08:30] <varikonniemi> and there are some program suggestions
[08:30] <varikonniemi> some config magic
[08:31] <varikonniemi> will try that
[08:31] <VxQe> You could also try using a high-level hotkey
[08:31] <VxQe> Like hitting ctrl-alt-del and the just cancel out of the menu.
[08:31] <VxQe> Don't know if that would work that.
[08:31] <VxQe> Certainly not well
[08:31] <asdjaputra> VxQe, in certain game engines, alt-tab will be ignored
[08:31] <asdjaputra> and it'll refer back to ubuntu's alt-tab, switching the windows in result
[08:34] <krishnan> I was configuring LDAP on Ubuntu 10.04 server and the slapd has suddenly stopped running. Tried started running it but could not work. Please help.
[08:35] <krishnan> I was configuring LDAP on Ubuntu 10.04 server and the slapd has suddenly stopped running. Tried started running it but could not work. Please help.
[08:35] <krishnan> I was configuring LDAP on Ubuntu 10.04 server and the slapd has suddenly stopped running. Tried to start running it but could not work. Please help.
[08:35] <oCean> krishnan: we read you the first time, stop repeating please
[08:37] <ChTiPowA> Hi
[08:38] <Guest> hi
[08:38] <ChTiPowA> After major upgrade of Xubuntu, it has failed and given me this "Error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.Spawn.ChildExited: Launch helper exited with unknown return code 127
[08:38] <ChTiPowA> I have many packets miss configured
[08:38] <ChTiPowA> I cannot do anything, i'm lost
[08:38] <Guest> ChTiPowA: #xubuntu
[08:38] <ChTiPowA> please help
[08:38] <asdjaputra> !ask
[08:38] <asdjaputra> oh wait
[08:39] <asdjaputra> sorry i only saw the last one
[08:39] <tuxlinginx> hello is there an online alien(1) converter, didn't googled so far
[08:39] <ActionParsnip> ChTiPowA: what is the output of: lsb_release -sc
[08:39] <Guest> asdjaputra: did you try to restart the service
[08:39] <asdjaputra> Guest what?
[08:40] <Guest> asdjaputra: slapd server
[08:40] <tp43> I had some root user WebSite files from a Debian computer that I copied over to my Ubuntu computer, but they are all showing up a greenish-yellow instead of a green-only colour and now when I put them in /var/www and try to visit them, it isn't working as expected
[08:40] <auronandace> tuxlinginx: alien? as in rpm?
[08:40] <asdjaputra> Guest what's that
[08:41] <ChTiPowA> ActionParsnip: this is Natty
[08:41] <Guest> asdjaputra: sorry my mistaked :( im tired
[08:41] <ActionParsnip> chitragupt: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/845066
[08:41] <Guest> bye
[08:41] <tuxlinginx> i just ned to convert alien itself inialy and then i enable myself convert other pkgs
[08:41] <tuxlinginx> auronandace: yes rpm2deb and otherwise
[08:41] <tuxlinginx> thingy
[08:42] <auronandace> !packages | tuxlinginx
[08:42] <asdjaputra> !alien
[08:42] <tp43> How can I change permissions to make the -rwxr-xr-x files in a directory and sub directory have permission -rw-r--r--
[08:42] <ActionParsnip> tuxlinginx: is there not a ppa?
[08:42] <zHammeRz> chmod 644 I think
[08:43] <tuxlinginx> auronandace: not that easy, since im on XP right now webirc (they charge for xchat now)
[08:43] <auronandace> tuxlinginx: what?
[08:44] <tuxlinginx> ActionParsnip: ah, ill check that out
[08:44] <auronandace> tuxlinginx: i'm using xchat right now
[08:44] <urlin2u> tuxlinginx, there is a fre early xchat for windows.
[08:44] <asdjaputra> tp43, for root directory (/var/www) use chmod 775
[08:44] <tuxlinginx> link?
[08:44] <tp43> asdjaputra, thanks
[08:44] <ActionParsnip> tuxlinginx: or hydrirc which is also free
[08:44] <asdjaputra> tp43, and 644 for HTMLs
[08:44] <ActionParsnip> *hydrairc
[08:45] <tp43> asdjaputra, I have an html site that works fine when I visit index.html inside my /home/user/Documents directory, but when I copy it over /var/www/somedir/ and visit that dir it says I don't have permission
[08:45] <urlin2u> tuxlinginx, http://code.google.com/p/xchat-wdk/
[08:46] <tenX> tp43: and depending on the web app you might have to allow write access occasionally
[08:46] <auronandace> tuxlinginx: anyway, what package are you trying to get for ubuntu?
[08:46] <tenX> tp43: limited on dirs of course
[08:46] <asdjaputra> tp43, have you chown user:group /var/www
[08:46] <asdjaputra> CMIIW that might be a dangerous command
[08:47] <tp43> asdjaputra, no, but I have another site that works fine for some reason
[08:47] <hello24> web
[08:47] <asdjaputra> tp43, all folders given permision 755, and files are given permission 644
[08:47] <hello24> hi
[08:47] <tuxlinginx> auronandace: yeah thanks to all, im fine still with web irc, as long as im on firefox
[08:47] <asdjaputra> and you should change the ownership of /var/www/ to be yours
[08:47] <hello24> what is the best way to host a web site on server with dynamic ip?
[08:47] <hello24> (dhcp)
[08:48] <hello24> is there a way to make it always available?
[08:48] <hello24> i am using dns update script, but it may take hours for dns to update
[08:48] <tp43> asdjaputra, how do I do that?
[08:49] <tuxlinginx> auronandace: sorry, yeah as i said im looking for alien
[08:49] <ActionParsnip> hello24: i'd get an account at no-ip.com then install noip2   it will update the record with the new IP every 30 seconds (by default)
[08:49] <asdjaputra> tp43, first sudo chown <username>:<groupname> /var/www/
[08:49] <auronandace> tuxlinginx: why, i thought you were on xp
[08:49] <sinistrad> awas, I'm using dyndns.org, and I can set the refresh rate to something much lower than hours, but you need to check with your dns to see how fast the allow refresh before they believe it is spam.
[08:50] <tuxlinginx> ActionParsnip: is there an alien for XP?
[08:50] <awas> sinistrad: refresh with dns server doesn't matter
[08:50] <tp43> asdjaputra, are you sure I need to do that, cause I have one site that is working fine
[08:50] <awas> there are tons of other dns servers that use cache
[08:50] <asdjaputra> tp43, then sudo chmod 755 /var/www
[08:50] <awas> that is kept for some time
[08:50] <commx> can someone tell me how I can retrieve a list of present hard disk drives and their capacity without using dmesg?
[08:50] <tenX> sinistrad: i'd refresh via ddclient once a day
[08:50] <ActionParsnip> tuxlinginx: i doubt it
[08:50] <asdjaputra> tp43, well you have to be logged in as www-data to edit the files
[08:50] <tomodachi> commx:  df- h
[08:50] <tomodachi> df -h
[08:50] <b4rry[]> commx: df
[08:50] <auronandace> tuxlinginx: why don't you tell us what you are trying to do and how this is connected to ubuntu?
[08:50] <ActionParsnip> commx: sudo fdisk -l
[08:51] <scarleo> Hi, I have some trouble to relay mail to gmail with postfix. I have sasl_passwd postmapped and setup in main but still gets answer Authentication Required from gmail
[08:51] <tomodachi> commx: but that would only be mounted devices
[08:51] <tuxlinginx> ActionParsnip: i see
[08:51] <asdjaputra> tp43, and sudo chown <username>:<groupname> will assign username and groupname to /var/www
[08:51] <tp43> asdjaputra, I just sudo when I wanna edit files
[08:51] <bahamas> hello. if i plug my network cable in, shouldn't the network be configured automatically?
[08:51] <asdjaputra> tp43, ok, then you can skip that step
[08:51] <commx> that's the problem. I need to get the disk model, which sadly isn't available in both of them
[08:51] <asdjaputra> tp43, and just do sudo chmod 755 /var/www/
[08:52] <tuxlinginx> auronandace: ok, u a bit annoying aren't ya, anyway, i need an rpm based alien for armel platform
[08:52] <ActionParsnip> bahamas: should do yes (assuming the chip has a driver). If not you can double check with:  sudo dhclient3 eth0
[08:52] <scarleo> bahamas, yes it should, maybe a reboot with cable plugged if it doesn't work
[08:52] <asdjaputra> tp43, and from there, you can chmod 755 to every folder within and chmod 644 for every HTML files
[08:53] <snufft> can anyone tell me if it's possible for me to remote into my dad's email computer over the net? i'm on ubuntu and he's on win7
[08:53] <bahamas> scarleo: yes, a reboot works, but it bugs me that it doesn't work from the start. also, even though the wireless doesn't work on its own, when i plug in the cable and reboot, the wireless starts working too
[08:53] <snufft> i'm going to explode if i have to listen to this crap one more time
[08:53] <tp43> asdjaputra, thanks
[08:53] <sinistrad> tenX, I have inadyn.conf set at 10 minutes, and it does fine for me.
[08:54] <auronandace> tuxlinginx: i am trying to understand why you need alien
[08:54] <scarleo> bahamas, plug your cable and see what sudo ifconfig shoes, do you get an ip?
[08:54] <scarleo> shows*
[08:54] <auronandace> tuxlinginx: is there a rpm package that you desperately need to convert?
[08:55] <tuxlinginx> hello is there an online alien(1) converter, didn't googled so far
[08:55] <tp43> ls
[08:55] <auronandace> !arm | tuxlinginx
[08:55] <tenX> sinistrad: hmm dunno inadyn. it probably compares. but ddclient output for high frequency updates asks you to be polite. and dyndns is a great service so i respect it
[08:55] <tuxlinginx> auronandace: no, otherwice
[08:56] <ActionParsnip> bahamas: could install wicd, see if it manages it better for you
[08:56] <bahamas> scarleo: i'm already connected right now, and i'd have to restart my computer and then try. i'll do that next time
[08:56] <bahamas> ActionParsnip: ok, i'll do that
[08:57] <tuxlinginx> auronandace: i found alien for armel but it's a deb, i need an RPM version
[08:57] <scarleo> bahamas, if it doesn't connect, try 'sudo service network-manager restart'
[08:57] <auronandace> tuxlinginx: why?
[08:57] <ActionParsnip> bahamas: uninstall network manager and reboot to get it all started up
[08:57] <devcalais> Hey team. I need a hand, I'd really like a 'widget' on my desktop that tells me my local weather forecast daily - any ideas?
[08:57] <sinistrad> tenX, I agree. It's a great service. Mine just checks IP, and if it differs, then updates with dyndns. It doesn't hammer dyndns. I wasn't having a problem, I was just letting someone else know that it can update faster.
[08:57] <auronandace> tuxlinginx: ubuntu uses deb not rpm
[08:57] <bahamas> scarleo: ok. i'll write this down
[08:57] <tuxlinginx> auronandace: to dive after osama, isn't it obvious
[08:57] <bahamas> ActionParsnip: uninstall or restart?
[08:58] <tenX> sinistrad: i see just my 2 cents :)
[08:58] <sinistrad> tenX, :)
[08:59] <tenX> sinistrad: static ips over here make inet lines really expensive at low speeds
[08:59] <Stanley00> devcalais: you can use screenlet or conkyforecast
[08:59] <tp43> asdjaputra, ok, I chmod the files and folders 644/755 like you said, and now I can see the pages, but still it isn't working quite right, the css seems broken
[09:00] <tp43> asdjaputra, I guess I have to 644 all those files
[09:01] <ActionParsnip> bahamas: uninstall network manager then restart, wicd will load and be sweet
[09:02] <asdjaputra> tp43, oh and scripts that executes uses 755
[09:02] <Onepamopa> someone that knows chineese here ?
[09:02] <asdjaputra> CSS does executes right?
[09:02] <tp43> asdjaputra, thanks so much man, you are smart
[09:02] <asdjaputra> !zh
[09:02] <tp43> asdjaputra, Is there anyway around this, so I don't have to do all this chmod in the future?
[09:03] <asdjaputra> tp43, unfortunately, no
[09:03] <bahamas> ActionParsnip: ah, so wicd is a replacement for network-manager
[09:03] <asdjaputra> tp43, you have to configure it to match the files and folders
[09:03] <tp43> asdjaputra, everytime I copy a website over to /var/www I have do a bunch on chmods?
[09:03] <asdjaputra> tp43, no you won't have to
[09:03] <uno1> hola
[09:03] <asdjaputra> hola
[09:04] <tp43> asdjaputra, what do you mean?
[09:04] <ActionParsnip> bahamas: its an alternative
[09:04] <asdjaputra> tp43, you won't have to chmod it
[09:04] <ActionParsnip> bahamas: there is also wifi-radar
[09:04] <asdjaputra> tp43, by default every files/folders uses 644/755, i think
[09:05] <tp43> asdjaputra, like when I copy a website to /var/www from Document folder or anywhere else, I have to do a bunch of chmods right
[09:05] <tp43> asdjaputra, like I just had to do
[09:05] <asdjaputra> tp43, wait a sec
[09:06] <asdjaputra> tp43, every new file and folder will have 644/755, my theory was correct
[09:06] <asdjaputra> tp43, you'll only need to copy it to /var/www with sudo
[09:07] <bahamas> ActionParsnip: ok, i'll look into that as well. thanks
[09:07] <tp43> asdjaputra, oh, I should change /var/www to chmod 755 and then every new file will have it correct
[09:07] <tp43> asdjaputra, but I have one site that didn't require any chmods for some reason
[09:07] <asdjaputra> tp43, hmm..
[09:07] <tp43> asdjaputra, oooh, you know what, when I create directory inside /var/www then I have to make it chmod 755
[09:08] <asdjaputra> tp43, yes and by default it is
[09:08] <asdjaputra> tp43, http://www.dartmouth.edu/~rc/help/faq/permissions.html
[09:08] <tp43> asdjaputra, cause the first site I put in /var/www, and then when I added more sites, I made directories and those needed to have chmod done
[09:09] <asdjaputra> tp43, yes
[09:09] <tp43> asdjaputra, the first site was fine by default cause they were created inside the root directory which made them correct chmod setting by default
[09:09] <tp43> asdjaputra, ok, thanks so much for your help
[09:09] <asdjaputra> tp43, and made them belong to www-data by default
[09:09] <asdjaputra> tp43, may i add you can sudo chown user:group to /var/www
[09:09] <asdjaputra> so every file you add by default won't need chmod and won't need sudo to edit
[09:10] <asdjaputra> you need chmod because it's not www-data's
[09:10] <asdjaputra> so placing it there will be useless if www-data has no permission to it
[09:10] <asdjaputra> you can add a user special for adding datas to /var/www, under your password
[09:11] <tp43> asdjaputra, can you show my the command to chown user:group to /var/www
[09:12] <asdjaputra> tp43, http://www.alexatnet.com/content/debian-web-server-apache-php-and-mysql
[09:12] <asdjaputra> tp43, there's a complete server files/folders chmod rules, and how to isolate a user to a specific website
[09:12] <hyperstream> tp43, chown -hR user:group /var/www <-- will apply to everything inside it and the subfolders (recursive)
[09:13] <asdjaputra> tp43, also there is how to make vhosts
[09:13] <tp43> asdjaputra, thanks, is that you in the picture by chance or just a link?
[09:13] <asdjaputra> link :)
[09:13] <asdjaputra> tp43, alexatnet helps me in everything, and btw, just because it's debian, it won't change any commands that'll work with Ubuntu
[09:13] <tp43> hyperstream, where user is my username
[09:13] <asdjaputra> tp43, yes
[09:13] <asdjaputra> and group is groupname
[09:14] <asdjaputra> if your username and groupname is both tp43 you can add it there
[09:14] <hyperstream> tp43, yeah example: chown -hR hyperstream:hyperstream /home/hyperstream/
[09:14] <tp43> my username is tp43 but I don't know my groupname
[09:17] <Stanley00> tp43: id command will show you ;)
[09:18] <asdjaputra> if it's the first one you made it should be the same
[09:18] <asdjaputra> asdjaputra:asdjaputra
[09:18] <asdjaputra> tp43:tp43
[09:18] <tp43> ok
[09:18] <tp43> thanks
[09:18] <asdjaputra> !seen
[09:18] <asdjaputra> hmm
[09:19] <asdjaputra> how to send suggestions for ubottu?
[09:19] <asdjaputra> i meant for ops that did ubottu?
[09:20] <bazhang> asdjaputra, /msg ubottu to use factoids
[09:20] <bazhang> !factoid > asdjaputra
[09:21] <asdjaputra> hmm, thanks bazhang
[09:25] <liran> hello every one
[09:25] <Xdept> Sup
[09:32] <ActionParsnip> asdjaputra: the syntax is:  /msg ubottu !beer is Beer is a tasty beverage
[09:33] <ActionParsnip> asdjaputra: for example
[09:34] <asdjaputra> my question was how to give suggestions to ops that develop ubottu
[09:35] <asdjaputra> and ActionParsnip i don't think the ! will be needed on msg
[09:35] <ActionParsnip> asdjaputra: aaah http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots
[09:35] <oCean> asdjaputra: you make a suggestion in private /msg with ubottu, it gets forwarded to the ops channel
[09:36] <asdjaputra> ActionParsnip, ok thanks, and i remember we can say something random to ubottu and she'll reply with thank you your suggestions <...>
[09:36] <oCean> asdjaputra: they then will consider your suggestion
[09:36] <asdjaputra> oCean, what's the command for that
[09:36] <oCean> asdjaputra: http://ubottu.com/devel/wiki/Plugins#Adding_a_factoid
[09:36] <oCean> asdjaputra: but in private /msg with ubottu please
[09:36] <asdjaputra> oCean, sure, no flooding here :)
[09:38] <ihbs-2010-001> who are you??
[09:38] <asdjaputra> oCean, are the factoids going to be local?
[09:38] <ActionParsnip> ihbs-2010-001: that's a deep question if ever there was one
[09:39] <ihbs-2010-001> okay
[09:39] <ihbs-2010-001> s
[09:39] <ihbs-2010-001> okay
[09:40] <Bash> Still can't get my seperate ubuntu drive to show up, right after boot it just sits at a blinking cursor.
[09:40] <ActionParsnip> Bash: what video chip do you use?
[09:41] <Bash> Pretty certain I've done the grub install right, is it a major problem if a windows partition preceeds the grub drive?
[09:41] <cillo564> this is about clementine player: I have recorded music from internet radio, the problem is that when i add the music folder to library and change one of tracks album cover, the all music tracks have same album cove
[09:41] <Bash> ActionParsnip: Oh sorry, meant that grub doesn't initialize.
[09:41] <ActionParsnip> Bash: if you hold shift at boot do you see grub?
[09:42] <Bash> ActionParsnip: Nope.
[09:42] <Bash> ActionParsnip: It's as if it finds nothing when it tries to boot from ANY drive.
[09:42] <ActionParsnip> Bash: then boot to liveCD and reinstate grub
[09:43] <Bash> ActionParsnip: I've done that now, tried different settings in which partition to flag for boot etc,
[09:43] <ActionParsnip> Bash: the boot flag is irrelevant
[09:44] <ActionParsnip> Bash: grub config is loaded and uses the config there, only windows uses boot flags
[09:44] <Bash> ActionParsnip: I have windows7 on sda, sdc1 is windows (non-boot), sdc2 is ubuntu (with grub) and sdc3 is swap,
[09:45] <Bash> ActionParsnip: I have installed grub onto sdc2, pointed it to boot from sdc
[09:45] <ActionParsnip> Bash: is the drive which is sdc set as boot drive in BIOS?
[09:45] <Bash> ActionParsnip: Yup. I even tried booting every different drive, all are the same with the empty blinking cursor.
[09:46] <ActionParsnip> Bash: if you start liveCD booting then select to boot the internal drive, does it boot ok?
[09:46] <ActionParsnip> Bash: ok, what is the video chip you use?
[09:46] <Bash> ActionParsnip: Nope, it flashes for just a second but just goes away.
[09:47] <Bash> ActionParsnip: ati
[09:47] <Snicksie> shouldn't matter in the booting process, should it? :)
[09:47] <albech> i have this strange thing happening where when i click on locations under 'Places' (Ubuntu 10.10) it tries to open the location in VLC
[09:48] <ActionParsnip> Bash: tried chrooting and adding boot options to use safe vga etc? May stop the blinking cursor bit
[09:48] <Bash> I can get into ubuntu on the flash drive no problem, full resolution and working fine, just wont boot.
[09:48] <Bash> ActionParsnip: It's more just a blank stop, it won't think or read the drive or anything
[09:48] <ActionParsnip> albech: run nautilus and right click on a folder select 'open with' then tell it to be opened with nautilus and remember to tell the OS to remember the setting
[09:49] <Snicksie> have you tried installing grub into the mbr, Bash ?
[09:49] <ActionParsnip> albech: seen it a million times: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1631961
[09:49] <dr_willis> albech:  somehow the file assocation got set to be vlc instead of the 'open folder' item. nit sure fo the best way to fix it. i use ubuntu tweak. but its not supported here
[09:49] <Bash> Snicksie: I think I did, can I double-check to make sure?
[09:50] <dr_willis> i hope they fix that issye in tge next release. or make it easier to fix
[09:50] <Bash> I mean now if I'm to try it again so I know for sure.
[09:50] <nowhere_man> Hi all
[09:50] <Snicksie> you said you installed it to sdc2 ? That doesn't seem a mbr, it seems like a pbr ;) Just try sdc instead :)
[09:51] <Bash> Snicksie: Right, grub is installed on sdc2 but it's pointed to boot at sdc
[09:51] <nowhere_man> I have a problem with the panel with Ubuntu on an EeePC
[09:51] <Bash> Atleast I think that's the way?
[09:51] <albech> ActionParsnip, dr_willis, thanks both of you
[09:52] <Snicksie> i'm not 100% sure, but I only got my ubuntu back bootable by installing grub to sda (so that means in your case sdc :) )
[09:52] <nowhere_man> it only disappear when an application is launched, and masks the categories of application ("games", "accessories", etc.)
[09:52] <ActionParsnip> !panels | nowhere_man
[09:54] <Bash> Snicksie: Looks like it's both installed to mbr of sda and sdc
[09:55] <Bash> http://paste.ubuntu.com/685849/
[09:55] <Bash> Correct me if I'm wrong, but "looks at sector 1 of the same hard drive", wouldn't that mean it checks sdc1, which is windows?
[09:56] <thoidingjam> sendpass
[09:57] <Dollz> how to install a git ? http://git.videolan.org/?p=ffmpeg.git;a=commit;h=b7b61ff6a31d4ffa1fb9a0ebeb1579d84c01c0b7
[09:57] <Snicksie> i guess sector 1 is NOT used by windows, Bash ... as far as I can see, windows only starts from sector 1701 and further :)
[09:58] <thoidingjam> sendpass thoidingjam
[09:58] <Snicksie> thoidingjam, do you mean /nickserv sendpass thoidingjam  ?
[09:58] <sdk__> Identify nickserv 123
[09:58] <Snicksie> */msg nickserv sendpass ...
[09:58] <thoidingjam> m trying to recover
[09:59] <Bash> Snicksie: Alright, but grub on mbr sda that shouldn't have any effect on grub on sdc though right?
[09:59] <Snicksie> you should send that in a private message to nickserv
[09:59] <oCean> thoidingjam: use #freenode for support please
[09:59] <sdk__> Hi all
[09:59] <Snicksie> it might chainload from sda to sdc, but it shouldn't have any effect as far as I know, although my knowledge is limited to :p
[09:59] <thoidingjam> it says join a channel, sorry to bother
[10:00] <RedViper> I have a Gigabyte: Intel Celeron T3500, 2GB DDR 2. How do I get my web cam working? Is there a specific program?
[10:00] <ActionParsnip> RedViper: the cpu and ram are of zero relevance to the webcam
[10:00] <Bash> Snicksie: I might have to take a look at this tomorrow. Thanks anyway!
[10:00] <ActionParsnip> RedViper: if you run: lsusb    what is output? use http://pastie.org to host the text
[10:01] <RedViper> ActionParsnip: I'm just letting you know the make and everything. :D
[10:01] <ActionParsnip> RedViper: if you install cheese do you see yourself?
[10:01] <rigved> Dollz: better if you download the patch and use that.
[10:02] <devcalais> Someone mind having a browse at this pastebin and telling me what I'm doing wrong? trying to compile a .tar
[10:02] <devcalais> http://paste.ubuntu.com/685852/
[10:02] <Dollz> rigved: i'm downgrading
[10:02] <Dollz> rigved: I've a recent version  , but unstable
[10:02] <rigved> Dollz: downgrading? how? best if you ask in #videolan
[10:03] <Dollz> rigved: nice channel .. thank you
[10:03] <ActionParsnip> devcalais: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[10:03] <sdk__> Install lua and its header files dude
[10:03] <RedViper> ActionParsnip: Ok hold on I'm installing it now. I have pasted.
[10:04] <sdk__> Lua
[10:04] <rigved> Dollz: you are welcome.
[10:04] <devcalais> natty.
[10:04] <ActionParsnip> devcalais: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:vincent-c/conky; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install conky     gives you 1.8.1
[10:04] <devcalais> ActionParsnip - natty, 11.04 64bit!
[10:05] <devcalais> ActionParsnip - was my syntax to compiling a .tar file correct, though? Just unlucky on a dependancy?
[10:05] <RedViper> ActionParsnip: Have you seen the paste?
[10:05] <ActionParsnip> devcalais: the ppa will give the version you want
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> RedViper: you need to copy the url the page changed to and paste it here
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> devcalais: no idea, but there is a ppa with a binary of what you need, so why bother
[10:07] <devcalais> ActionParsnip - ... self education, why else!
[10:07] <RedViper> ActionParsnip: http://pastie.org/2507615     - Sorry forgot :D
[10:07] <sdk__> Did you read above.?
[10:07] <sdk__> Install Lua headers usually -dev (pkg name) and Lua too
[10:07] <sdk__> :)
[10:09] <scarleo> I'm trying to setup logwatch to ignore "packets to tcp(51413)" I just added that line straight into ignore.conf as it accepts regexp but that doesn't work. Anyone know how I can configure it?
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> devcalais: no idea, that's why I asked!
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> !info lua5.1
[10:10] <devcalais> Awkward Ubuntu nub question - how do I launch conky, now that I've installed it? It's not appearing under a lense search for 'conky'. Awkward.
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> devcalais: press ALT+F2 and run:  conky
[10:11] <ActionParsnip> devcalais: not really awkward
[10:11] <ActionParsnip> RedViper: is it built into the system or is it USB based?
[10:11] <dori922> hey! im making a file server for windows clients, what good to get the windows filesystem working with linux file systems? (Clients will be in different companies/locations so Samba isnt suitible cause it wants workgroups) :D
[10:11] <ActionParsnip> devcalais: if you don't see it, run it in a terminal. You may need to copy a .conkyrc from in the OS (or online) to make it run
[10:12] <RedViper> ActionParsnip: I have a laptop, yes it is built in.
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> dori922: install samba and you can share folders
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> RedViper: is there a switch to turn it off and on?
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> RedViper: what is the make and model of the system?
[10:12] <dori922> ActionParsnip: samba requires workgroups which makes it unsuitible
[10:13] <dori922> ActionParsnip: my clients wont all be the same workgroup
[10:13] <ActionParsnip> dori922: it can work with active directory
[10:13] <ActionParsnip> dori922: it can be added to an existing workgroup easily
[10:13] <Dazzled> hi I'm trying to format an old partitioned HDD, but it won't allow me to unmount a certain ext3 partition
[10:13] <Dazzled> it claims it's still mounted to /
[10:13] <ActionParsnip> devcalais: seems your compile needs lua5.1 installing
[10:13] <Dazzled> but if I try unmount or even sudo umount, it won't unmount
[10:14] <klingelbart> hi, I'm using unity. do you know how i can make my system execute a shell script after login?
[10:14] <ActionParsnip> Dazzled: then its your system partition that you are booted to
[10:14] <dori922> ActionParsnip: cleints dont have windows server :(
[10:14] <ActionParsnip> dori922: they don't need it, you can create samba passwords and gran access to shares
[10:14] <ActionParsnip> dori922: let me pastebin my smb.conf, you can see if its what you want
[10:15] <Dazzled> ActionParsnip, well I connected it when I was running this instance, so that would be odd
[10:15] <Dazzled> but, It is the cloned version of it
[10:15] <GreekFreak> hello. Can anybody help me with Synergy+?
[10:15] <Dazzled> so perhaps it detects the same UUID or something
[10:15] <ActionParsnip> dori922: http://pastie.org/2507659
[10:15] <devcalais> ActionParsnip: that's just a dependancy based on whatever package I was trying to compile? Nothing wrong with my method of compiling the package at all?
[10:15] <ActionParsnip> Dazzled: you can make a partition have a different UUID
[10:16] <ActionParsnip> devcalais: looks spot on, just needed to satisfy deps
[10:16] <dori922> ActionParsnip: thanks :) the how-to's and tutorials for setting up SAMBA were all saying you needed a specific workgroup for your clients :o
[10:16] <devcalais> ActionParsnip: I'm just happy I got the syntax correct ;) avoided the immediate problem. Cheers!
[10:16] <ActionParsnip> dori922: see how andy has access to all, but leanne only has access to her own stuff ;)
[10:16] <dori922> ActionParsnip:  i have that down with chroot :p
[10:17] <ActionParsnip> devcalais: np, using PPAs makes life a tonne easier, plus the packages will gel with the existing ones making install / remove as easy as any other package
[10:17] <shai28> Hello, I've installed Ubuntu 11.04 on my computer, during the updates (using the update manager) the window of the update manager got stuck so I pressed on the cancel button and now every time I would like to make update I getting this error : E:Unable to parse package file /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/il.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_natty_universe_i18n_Index (1) any idea how to solve this ?
[10:17] <ActionParsnip> dori922: is that functionality you need though?
[10:17] <Dazzled> klingelbart, add the .sh to "BootApplications"
[10:17] <Dazzled> and it'll run as soon as the system runs
[10:17] <Dazzled> I don't know it's called boot applications, as I have a Dutch version of Ubuntu, but putting Boot in the search window will list a purple icon with a green arrow in it
[10:17] <ActionParsnip> shai28: http://pastie.org/2507666
[10:17] <executionist> how can i access my file system from the terminal? I cant cd above the home folder
[10:17] <RedViper> ActionParsnip: No there is no switch, On the computer or on Ubuntu? Gigabyte - E1500
[10:18] <ActionParsnip> RedViper: is it a tablet?
[10:19] <RedViper> ActionParsnip: Tablet? By the way - Cheese has installed and it's saying No device found.
[10:19] <klingelbart> Dazzled: how do i do that?
[10:20] <executionist> cant open folders above the home folder in terminal :/
[10:20] <Dazzled> klingelbart, click on the Ubuntu logo on the top left
[10:20] <Dazzled> should bring up a humungeous search bar
[10:20] <klingelbart> Dazzled: i know^^ but if i type in boot, nothing appears
[10:20] <ActionParsnip> executionist: are the folders owned by it's respected owner?
[10:21] <dori922> ActionParsnip: yeah :) i have everything so i just needed windows interoperability for different users!
[10:21] <executionist> nope, its the filesystem
[10:21] <executionist> its not that I cant, i dont know how to
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> dori922: yeah thats cool, you can add users with:  sudo smbpasswd -a name
[10:22] <sdk__> Haha
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> executionist: cd foldername
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> RedViper: are there any bugs reported?
[10:22] <dori922> ActionParsnip: and workgroups is ignorable?
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> RedViper: have you contacted Gigabyte?
[10:22] <Dazzled> klingelbart, perhaps it's called Sessions?
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> dori922: I've only ever used 1 workgroup tbh
[10:23] <RedViper> ActionParsnip: No, why?
[10:23] <ActionParsnip> RedViper: may have already been reported and be a known bug
[10:23] <klingelbart> Dazzled: i want a script to be executed after login, not while booting
[10:23] <sdk__> There used to be ubottu the bot aaround here ye?
[10:23] <ActionParsnip> dori922: as long as the user can log in when challenged, it will get access
[10:23] <ikonia> sdk__: it's still here
[10:23] <ActionParsnip> !ubottu
[10:23] <executionist> ActionParsnip, I want to open /media/new volume/program files. I cannot go outside /home from the terminal
[10:23] <ikonia> sdk__: just not online at this moment
[10:23] <sdk__> Ikonia oh hai
[10:23] <sdk__> Cool
[10:24] <executionist> cd just takes me to /home
[10:24] <sdk__> Ahhh ok :)
[10:24] <dori922> ActionParsnip: oo key :D the "   workgroup = WORKGROUP" in the tutorials kept tripping me
[10:24] <ActionParsnip> executionist: sure you can. Just run:  cd /media/new\ volume/program\ files
[10:24] <RenaKunisaki> cd '/media/new volume/program files'
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> executionist: use TAB to complete the file names, make sure CASE is exact, linux is VERY case sensitive. So if it is Program\ Files   it is different to program\ files
[10:25] <executionist> k, lemme try that
[10:25] <RedViper> ActionParsnip: No, there are no bugs, it wont work, nomatter what I do. Is there something in system I can do?
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> executionist: could use:  cd /media; ls   and go from there
[10:25] <jigal> hello when i do ~$ sudo ssh -T git@github.com
[10:25] <jigal> i get a popup for a password but dont know which password to add
[10:25] <jigal> any idea's?
[10:26] <ikonia> jigal: shy are you using sudo to ssh ?
[10:26] <Dazzled> klingelbart, I know what you mean, my script runs after I log in
[10:26] <Dazzled> it even waits until there's an internet connection
[10:26] <ActionParsnip> RedViper: make sure it is enabled. could reboot and run:  dmesg | less    see if its detected. Ggabyte may have some proprietary garbage which needs a driver to work and get access to the cam
[10:26] <klingelbart> Dazzled, hmmmm
[10:27] <Dazzled> klingelbart, Startup Applications
[10:27] <jigal> ikonia, without the sudo i get the same popup
[10:27] <Langly> Hello unknown sample
[10:27] <ikonia> jigal: yes, that's correct, without sudo it's the password for the user "git" at the remote server
[10:27] <ikonia> jigal: there is no reason so use "sudo" to run the ssh command
[10:27] <RedViper> ActionParsnip: Why do I need to reboot? I can't really do that now. Can't I just run dmesg ?
[10:28] <Dazzled> I googled the translation, so I guess that could be it
[10:28] <klingelbart> Dazzled. ok got it. it's called litte different, cause i have got the german version
[10:28] <Dazzled> :) Lost in translation
[10:28] <shai28> ActionParsnip: now when I doing update I getting the next errors - W: Failed to fetch http://il.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/natty/restricted/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found , W: Failed to fetch http://il.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/natty/multiverse/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found etc..
[10:28] <bambanx> guys how can i do a image of my system of all my system ?
[10:28] <prc33> any reason why a standard 10.04.3 server install would fail to get an IP via DHCP? (networking works if I give a static IP with ipconfig))
[10:28] <klingelbart> dazzled, no click on "add?"
[10:29] <Dazzled> add, and then browse to your .sh file
[10:29] <sdk__> Jigal its the password you used to encrypt your SSH private key. Must have encrypted at some point in the past :)
[10:29] <ActionParsnip> shai28: try changing server to the main server, or an alternate server
[10:30] <Dazzled> Name and Comment you can choose whatever, the Path should point to your sh file
[10:30] <klingelbart> Dazzled, ok, got it. now ill test it...
[10:30] <ActionParsnip> RedViper: sure, reboot just reduces the messages. Just read down until about no ipv6 available. Do you see anything mentioning the webcam?
[10:30] <ActionParsnip> bambanx: dd or partimage are 2 options
[10:31] <duk0vv> hi everyone, i recently bought an usb pendrive that i suspect being fake,  i see that on windows there are some utilities that let you (at least) sort it out, is there any of those on Linux? (possibly off repo but it's not a problem if not)
[10:31] <sdk__> !tell sdk_ about metapackage
[10:31] <ActionParsnip> duk0vv: what do the utilities do?
[10:32] <RedViper> ActionParsnip: No, should I paste it? Maybe I'm missing it.
[10:32] <ssk_the_gr8> how do i find out speed of my ram?
[10:32] <duk0vv> ActionParsnip: apparently (this is just a guess ) they fill the usb key with data and then see if it gets corrupt, as the output says "XX GB are available XX are junk"
[10:33] <Sidewinder1> I don't think ubottu is "on board", this morning...
[10:33] <sdk__> Is it sick? cough cough
[10:34] <ssk_the_gr8> somebody please help me ? :(
[10:34] <sdk__> Ye probably called in sicky
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> RedViper: if you don't see it then the OS isn't seeing it
[10:34] <Sidewinder1> Stuck, I think.
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> or asleep
[10:35] <Dazzled> ssk_the_gr8, tried lshw yet?
[10:35] <sdk__> Ask away if someone knows will tell you :)
[10:35] <Sidewinder1> Or perhaps, taking the day off.
[10:35] <sdk__> Yeah
[10:35] <RedViper> ActionParsnip: Great, what now?
[10:35] <diverdude> package name was php5-xdebug
[10:36] <ActionParsnip> RedViper: all i can suggest is report a bug
[10:36] <diverdude> anyone?
[10:37] <jigal> sdk__, i generated a new key and now i get permission denied
[10:37] <ActionParsnip> RedViper: do gigabyte make linux drvers for the webcam?
[10:37] <RedViper> ActionParsnip: The thing is it's not showing up. The other thing is how do you know it's a bug, for all we know it might be me. :D
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> diverdude: what is your question?
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> RedViper: if its not in dmesg then its not pickuing up. Its also not showing in lsusb
[10:38] <ssk_the_gr8> Dazzled: yes
[10:38] <ssk_the_gr8> dont get the ram speed
[10:39] <sdk__> Jigal you need your pub key in the remote host
[10:39] <ssk_the_gr8> only size and width
[10:39] <sdk__> Anyone here got good.link on great sssds? :)
[10:40] <ikonia> sdk__: that's not an ubuntu topic, as you know
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> sdk__: what is an sssds?
[10:40] <Dazzled> ssk_the_gr8, I see here clock: 1333MHz (0.8ns)
[10:40] <Dazzled> ssk_the_gr8, I did "sudo lshw > mysystem.txt" and then open it and look for "bank"
[10:40] <sdk__> Solid state drives
[10:41] <ActionParsnip> sdk__: then ask in ##hardware
[10:41] <sdk__> Ikonia ahh
[10:41] <sdk__> Haha
[10:41] <duk0vv> hi everyone, i recently bought an usb pendrive that i suspect being fake,  i see that on windows there are some utilities that let you (at least) sort it out, is there any of those available on Linux? (possibly off repo but it's not a problem if not)
[10:41] <ActionParsnip> duk0vv: you can wipe it with gparted if that is what you mean
[10:42] <sdk__> Actionparsnip ahh
[10:42] <ssk_the_gr8> Dazzled: under bank:0 i have description, slot, size,width,physical id... thats it  no clock
[10:42] <duk0vv> ActionParsnip: I'd like to know if the X GB advertised are really available or its just a 128mb key claiming to be a "big boy"
[10:42] <scarleo>  Hi, phpmyadmin is not taking my blowfish secret, it warns me even though I entered one in config.inc.php. What is the solution?
[10:43] <ActionParsnip> duk0vv: insert the device, wait 10 seconds then run:  sudo fdisk -l
[10:44] <sdk__> All righty. Later folks. Feel trollish so off I go
[10:44] <trmbon1> i need some help with my window frames
[10:44] <Dazzled> ssk_the_gr8, "cat /proc/meminfo"
[10:45] <duk0vv> ActionParsnip: just sudo fdisk -l ? it gave me no output
[10:45] <Dazzled> ssk_the_gr8, nm, doesn't list clock
[10:45] <trmbon1> can anybody help me my window frames have disappeared and i cant figure out how to get them back
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> duk0vv: the -l is a lowercase -L
[10:46] <RedViper> ActionParsnip: So you don't have any other suggestions?
[10:46] <duk0vv> ActionParsnip: yup, i wrote L
[10:46] <ssk_the_gr8> Dazzled: so many values... all in KB....
[10:46] <oCean> ssk_the_gr8: in sudo lshw -C memory, there's also the clock specification
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> RedViper: none, other than report a bug
[10:46] <ssk_the_gr8> oCean: it's not there.. do u want me to paste the output?
[10:47] <oCean> ssk_the_gr8: no need, I have it's output from many systems.
[10:47] <Dazzled> ssk_the_gr8, sudo dmidecode --type 17
[10:47] <Dazzled> this lists speed
[10:47] <RedViper> ActionParsnip: Ok thanks allot for the help. I will get onto reporting a bug. Thanks again :D
[10:47] <oCean> ssk_the_gr8: for example: http://paste.ubuntu.com/685871/
[10:48] <duk0vv> ActionParsnip: also, isn't it supposed to give me the same info disk utility (gui) would?
[10:48] <ssk_the_gr8> oCean: http://paste.ubuntu.com/685872/
[10:48] <ssk_the_gr8> here you go check it out
[10:48] <ActionParsnip> duk0vv: did you get an output this time?
[10:48] <oCean> ssk_the_gr8: did you run it sudo?
[10:49] <ssk_the_gr8> yes
[10:49] <oCean> ssk_the_gr8: never seen this before
[10:49] <ssk_the_gr8> i  ran sudo su at the start
[10:49] <duk0vv> ActionParsnip: actually, i forgot sudo the L was written correctly i thought i had admin already, my bad
[10:49] <oCean> ssk_the_gr8: never do that, to start a root shell (if you ever need one) do  sudo -i
[10:49] <ssk_the_gr8> Dazzled: dmidecode .... does not work too says Speed unknown
[10:49] <duk0vv> ActionParsnip: but isn't this same output diskutility would give me?
[10:49] <ssk_the_gr8> oCean: reasons?
[10:50] <MonkeyDust> i never dare to advise sudo -i
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> duk0vv: i guess, gparted should also show you
[10:50] <duk0vv> ActionParsnip: the problem is that if it's fake it's probably using some patched firmware that shows it's a X (the amount you paid) GB stick, if you put more data into it it gets corrupt
[10:51] <duk0vv> ActionParsnip: besides any program or stuff like that, wouldnt putting files into the stick and then comparing checksums do the trick?
[10:51] <ActionParsnip> duk0vv: could format it in gparted if there is noting on there you need
[10:52] <duk0vv> ActionParsnip: no nothing i need, I'll format and report back, does it have to be gparted or diskutility is going to be fine? (don't want to sound lazy but i dont have gparted installed on this machine)
[10:52] <ambro718> Which Ubuntu versions use Upstart? Does the current development version (oneiric) use Upstart or Systemd (or is there a compatibility layer - can I ship Upstart scripts in oneiric)?
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> duk0vv: whatever can delete the partition and then make a new one. If you are going to share between windows and linux, use ntfs, otherwise use ext2 :)
[10:53] <Stanley00> ambro718: I dont know, but natty use upstart, I think
[10:53] <ssk_the_gr8> Dazzled: what now?
[10:53] <ssk_the_gr8> oCean: any other suggestions?
[10:53] <ssk_the_gr8> :(
[10:53] <nlko> how can i tell what distro version is from the console?
[10:54] <rigved> nlko: lsb_release -sc
[10:54] <nlko> ah, lucid, thats not the latest is it?
[10:54] <Dazzled> ssk_the_gr8, that's really odd, are you sure you're in sudo mode when executing said command?
[10:55] <ssk_the_gr8> a # appears when you're in sudo mode, right?
[10:55] <ssk_the_gr8> nlko: but it's the most stable, i'm using it
[10:55] <rigved> nlko: that's the latest LTS. if you want the latest, then that is natty (11.04). oneiric (11.10) will release on oct 13.
[10:55] <Dazzled> ssk_the_gr8, close all terminals, open a new one, and enter "sudo dmidecode --type 17"
[10:55] <Dazzled> it'll prompt for a password
[10:56] <rigved> nlko: lucid is stable, as ssk_the_gr8 pointed out.
[10:56] <nlko> ah ok, so no rush in moving from lucid then?
[10:56] <duk0vv> ActionParsnip: ok done, it states its a 7,5 gb usb key (its sold as 8 GB but i guess that it may be legit if it was 7,5 rounded to 8 because of the decimal?) but according to some (non reliable sources) patched firmwares may spoof such results, would copying stuff into the pendrive , copying back and checking its checksum defeat any of my paranoias?
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> duk0vv: that's about right
[10:56] <ssk_the_gr8> dmidecode: unrecognized option '--type17'
[10:57] <nlko> i just noticed 11.04 was out and wondered why apt-get upgrade didnt get it
[10:57] <ActionParsnip> duk0vv: probably due to decimal/binary stuff. I wouldn't sweat it
[10:58] <ssk_the_gr8> Dazzled: http://paste.ubuntu.com/685879/
[10:58] <ssk_the_gr8> output, check it out
[10:58] <duk0vv> ActionParsnip: thank you very much for all your answers, i appreciate, AT LEAST i can sleep tight tonight (the main concern was permanently infected usb to be honest, not smaller sized lol)
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> duk0vv: oh absolutely :)
[11:00] <duk0vv> ActionParsnip: what absolutely? :P
[11:00] <Dazzled> ssk_the_gr8, no idea then, guess your system can't read it, or perhaps it's damaged
[11:00] <ssk_the_gr8> Dazzled: is it damaged?
[11:00] <ssk_the_gr8> i got it from my friend
[11:00] <Dazzled> you could try swapping it into another socket or machine
[11:01] <Kartagis> can I chroot only users under /home ?
[11:01] <Dazzled> in case it's the mobo that can't read it
[11:01] <ssk_the_gr8> the computer seems to be working fine
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> duk0vv: about the main concern
[11:01] <Dazzled> ssk_the_gr8, what brand is it?
[11:01] <petriborg> I've got a dell poweredge 1950 server w/ raid 1 (via perc controller) and after install of 10.04r3, it never boots properly. The error it gives me is "Gave up waiting for root device." "ALERT! /dev/mapper/myboxname-root does not exist." there are lots of threads on this issue, but not a lot of clear solutions - does anyone have any ideas?
[11:02] <Dazzled> ssk_the_gr8, normally it's printed on the RAM
[11:02] <duk0vv> ActionParsnip: it's unlikely, but possible, and although it would be a minor concern on linux those usb keys may be used on Windows Pc's and I'd like to be a good  neighbour (not my windows pc's as i dont have any)
[11:02] <RedViper> sudo shutdown -h 13:00  - This code allows me to shutdown my computer, how do I cancel it, in the terminal?
[11:02] <ssk_the_gr8> Dazzled: right now the memory module is in slot 0 , the other slot is empty, will it be ok if i move the module to slot 1 and keep slot 0 empty?
[11:03] <ssk_the_gr8> Dazzled: it had a sticker on it...  it was..... Kingston
[11:03] <Dazzled> ssk_the_gr8, I don't know for sure if leaving slot 0 empty would cause errors
[11:04] <ssk_the_gr8> Dazzled: i have the same doubts
[11:04] <Dazzled> not a second unit around which you could temporarily upgrade with said stick of RAM?
[11:04] <squig> is there a way to tell what packages I have installed?
[11:04] <jrib> squig: use your favorite package manager
[11:04] <ssk_the_gr8> i have my old ram sticks.....
[11:04] <ssk_the_gr8> what do you want me to do?
[11:05] <Dazzled> My idea was to put the unreadable ram sticks into another machine, and see if they can be read there
[11:05] <squig> jrib, how would I use apt and get a textual list?
[11:05] <natarajan> hai
[11:05] <natarajan> i'm new user in ubuntu
[11:05] <jrib> squig: dpkg -l | grep '^ii'
[11:05] <natarajan> i need help ?
[11:05] <Dazzled> if yes, it's the mobo of the first system, if no as well, it's the ram
[11:05] <Tindo01> can someone tell me how i can turn off dash?
[11:05] <flipcoder> hey my friend is getting a "sector read error" when he tries to install ubuntu from a usb flash drive made with unetbootin, any ideas?
[11:05] <ssk_the_gr8> Dazzled: hmmm.. i'll have to look for a ddr2 machine then
[11:06] <Dazzled> and Kingston is a fairly well known brand, so it would baffle me if it wouldn't be detected
[11:06] <squig> jrib, thanking you. (I have about 50 computers which should all be identical, on some of them flash works and on some it doesnt)
[11:06] <Sidewinder1> !ask | natarajan
[11:06] <natarajan> I need to take a backup to my phone
[11:06] <ssk_the_gr8> natarajan: which phone?
[11:06] <Tindo01> how do i use the old desktop for ubuntu 11.04?
[11:07] <auronandace> !classic | Tindo01
[11:07] <natarajan> contacts & Sms in phone memory
[11:07] <Dazzled> ssk_the_gr8, how about you put an old ram stick into slot 0, and the new one in 1
[11:07] <Dazzled> and then try some of the earlier commands again
[11:07] <Tindo01> thank you
[11:07] <natarajan> ssk_the_gr8: HTC Wiled fire
[11:07] <ssk_the_gr8> Dazzled: i was thinking the same thing... i'll give both your  ideas a try... later
[11:07] <auronandace> Tindo01: bear in mind from 11.10 onwards there will be no more gnome2 (so you may want to try xfce)
[11:07] <natarajan> andriod os
[11:08] <ssk_the_gr8> auronandace: is xfce like gnome 2?
[11:08] <auronandace> ssk_the_gr8: i find it better, but that is a matter of personal taste
[11:08] <Dazzled> ssk_the_gr8, Ubuntu CD's come with memtest+ preinstalled, but I don't know what information it provides
[11:09] <RedViper> This code allows me to shutdown my computer, how do I cancel it, in the terminal? sudo shutdown -h 13:00
[11:09] <family> how you can halp ??
[11:09] <executionist_> just installed ubuntu, all my videos play with a blue tint
[11:09] <family> what
[11:10] <natarajan> ssk_the_gr8: pls help
[11:10] <jrib> RedViper: tried searching « man shutdown » for "cancel"?  You can search man pages by typing: /cancel<enter>, then pressing 'n' and 'N' to go to next and previous hits
[11:10] <ssk_the_gr8> auronandace: even i'm looking for a unity alternative for oneric, so i was asking
[11:10] <ActionParsnip> executionist_: http://www.wiredrevolution.com/ubuntu/fix-blue-tinted-video-in-ubuntu
[11:10] <ssk_the_gr8> natarajan: dont know abt droids
[11:10] <ssk_the_gr8> sorry
[11:10] <flipcoder> hey my friend is getting a "sector read error" when he tries to install ubuntu from a usb flash drive made with unetbootin, any ideas?
[11:10] <Dazzled> I _had_ gnome, but it started to misbehave
[11:10] <Dazzled> so now I'm a forced Unity user :(
[11:11] <natarajan> ssk_the_gr8: my phone is HTC wildfire
[11:11] <Dazzled> although with decent HW, it does run okay, it's just all too hidden
[11:11] <ssk_the_gr8> Dazzled: i shifted back to lucid, because of that
[11:11] <auronandace> ssk_the_gr8: try out different desktop environments (gnom3 unity kde xfce lxde enlightenment) see what you like
[11:11] <RedViper> This code allows me to shutdown my computer, how do I cancel it, in the terminal? sudo shutdown -h 13:00?????
[11:11] <executionist_> ty ActionParsnip
[11:11] <Dazzled> and Gnome3 seems to be realizing features nobody asked for :(
[11:12] <ssk_the_gr8> auronandace: just been 5 months with linux.... seems risky :|
[11:12] <jigal> can someone help me with my problem http://pastebin.com/h5wANHu7
[11:12] <Sidewinder1> RedViper, Did you try what jrib suggested?
[11:12] <auronandace> ssk_the_gr8: you'll get the hang of it, try them in virtualbox vms
[11:12] <ssk_the_gr8> Dazzled: you're in the same boat :) , time to look for a new DE
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> executionist_: simple websearch dude
[11:13] <ssk_the_gr8> auronandace: virtualbox... never used it... can u link me to a good tutorial.. ?
[11:13] <Dazzled> ssk_the_gr8, I wish there was something easily customisable
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> Dazzled: kde is easily changed. LXDE is great imho :)
[11:13] <ssk_the_gr8> Dazzled: have you tried, lxded, xfce ..... all DE's ?
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> !vbnox | ssk_the_gr8
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> !vbox
[11:14] <ssk_the_gr8> ActionParsnip: thanx
[11:14] <Dazzled> I haven't been shopping around, as I'm wary of breaking my stuff :)
[11:15] <Dazzled> I have a tendency to get my Linux broken whenever I set out to change a simple thing
[11:15] <Dazzled> I've learned a lot, though :p
[11:15] <ssk_the_gr8> same here, learned a lot tough
[11:16] <Dazzled> well, Ithe XDE looks nice IMO
[11:16] <RedViper> This code allows me to shutdown my computer, how do I cancel it, in the terminal? sudo shutdown -h 13:00
[11:16] <maxagaz> what should I use to configure my touchpad ?
[11:16] <maxagaz> (on gnome)
[11:17] <nnull> Dazzled, Would you break your leg so you could learn how to use crutches? ;)
[11:17] <Dazzled> nnull, well that's a nice way of putting it
[11:18] <executionist_> is it possible to run an application with wine if it is not installed using wine but sitting in your windows program files?
[11:18] <Dazzled> I managed to have to switch graphics drivers after I switched my HDD to a new laptop
[11:18] <Dazzled> all glory to netroot
[11:18] <nnull> Dazzled, puts a different perspective on it doesnt it hehe
[11:18] <Sidewinder1> executionist_, I don't think so, but I don't usually use wine.
[11:19] <ssk_the_gr8> do i need to check if my cpu has vt?
[11:19] <Dazzled> well yeah, I'm not afraid to jump in :p although landing is still off most of the time :p
[11:19] <ssk_the_gr8> ActionParsnip:
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> nnull: its the same method i used to learn linux. many breaks and many reinstalls
[11:19] <Dazzled> is there something like RainMeter for Ubuntu desktops?
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> ssk_the_gr8: if you want a 64bit guest, then yes. most times a 32bit guest is fine
[11:19] <Dazzled> and not with the gadgets and all that, or cacaphonic combinations of screaming colors
[11:20] <th0r> Dazzled: gkrellm ?
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> Dazzled: what does rainmeter do?
[11:20] <executionist_> ActionParsnip, how long is the learning curve for linux?
[11:20] <nnull> ActionParsnip, Indeed, im not disagreeing with it.
[11:20] <Dazzled> rainmeter is a Windows customisation tool
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> executionist_: its never ending, just like any OS
[11:20] <ssk_the_gr8> if i install windows xp in virtual box will cpuz be able to detect my ram?
[11:20] <ssk_the_gr8> Dazzled:
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> Dazzled: you can customize linux to the hills
[11:20] <tp43> How can I test if my system has a working mail system that will be able to run a form-to-mail script php page
[11:20] <executionist_> ActionParsnip, but by when do you think I will stop coming to irc for every little thing
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> ssk_the_gr8: it will use as much ram as you assign in the vm settings
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> executionist_: depends on teh
[11:21] <ssk_the_gr8> ActionParsnip: will it detect the ram clock speed etc?
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> the individual, a few months should be fine. make sure you use the web before asking in here and you will earn
[11:22] <jrib> RedViper: why do you keep repeating your question and ignoring replies?
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> ssk_the_gr8: should pickup whatever the host tells it, using windows tools to test ram in any way is a poor test
[11:22] <ssk_the_gr8> ActionParsnip: linux tools are not working that is why i'm looking at this solution
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> ssk_the_gr8: if you want to see your ram speed then run memtest from grub
[11:23] <flipcoder> hey guys how do you deal with a "sector read error" when trying to install
[11:23] <Sidewinder1> executionist_, Please read and search: http://ubuntuforums.org/   That's how I learned.
[11:24] <ActionParsnip> flipcoder: i'd grab the ultimate boot cd and check the drive with manufacturers tool
[11:24] <ssk_the_gr8> ActionParsnip: memtest , how long does it take?
[11:24] <ActionParsnip> ssk_the_gr8: how much ram do you have?
[11:24] <Sidewinder1> executionist_, Another great link, if you're just getting started is: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/index.php
[11:24] <flipcoder> thanks, will try that
[11:25] <executionist_> will check them, not great with reading though
[11:25] <AFD> I'm having trouble connecting a VPN client to the VPN server. The server is working ok for other clients. Can someone help me troubleshoot
[11:25] <ssk_the_gr8> ActionParsnip: 2gb
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> ssk_the_gr8: not too long then
[11:26] <Dazzled> memtest can be interupted I believe, but it won't give you much information then, it does some different "marches" to test its sectors
[11:27] <ssk_the_gr8> ActionParsnip: still an approximate time ?
[11:27] <ssk_the_gr8> i've heard it takes hours
[11:28] <Dazzled> depends on what you need, if you want to be sure it's free of faults, it will have to test all of it
[11:28] <Dazzled> if you only need the speed
[11:28] <Dazzled> perhaps it'll be visible immedeatly
[11:28] <Sidewinder1> ssk_the_gr8, I don't think memtest stops, until you stop it; an hour or two should be enough to discover any problems.
[11:28] <ActionParsnip> ssk_the_gr8: i don't know. there may be estimates online. You can stop it part way but it will give the latencies of the ram etc
[11:29] <executionist_> can someone recommend a good packet sniffer and port scanner?
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> executionist_: nmap
[11:29] <yuwono> hi all
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> executionist_: wireshark
[11:29] <yuwono> can help me please
[11:29] <Dazzled> executionist_, BackTrack?
[11:30] <crshbndct> howdy folks
[11:30] <executionist_> wireshark is for linux too?
[11:30] <Sidewinder1> executionist_, Or zenmap if you prefer gui of nmap.
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> Dazzled: thats a distro, not a packet sniffer or port scanner
[11:30] <yuwono> i need a program for DWF file
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> !info wireshark
[11:30] <executionist_> yeah a gui is better for me at this stage
[11:30] <Dazzled> ActionParsnip, Ah I see
[11:30] <Dazzled> I remember it containing all of those things though :p
[11:31] <Dazzled> but it's not what he asked :)
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> executionist_: wireshark was on Linux first
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> !find nmap
[11:31] <Dazzled> wireshark on windows = not capturing localhost
[11:31] <crshbndct> 2 questions: how do i check my fps in a wine game in ubuntu?
[11:31] <Dazzled> wireshark on linux, it just works
[11:32] <executionist_> i see, didnt know that. I thought it was a windows software
[11:32] <ActionParsnip> crshbndct: is there an option in winecfg
[11:32] <crshbndct> and how should i partition my drive, now that i have decided to boot windows out of the picture altogether
[11:32] <ActionParsnip> executionist_: it is, it was simply ported
[11:32] <crshbndct> ActionParsnip, thanks.. i will have a look for that
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> crshbndct: if not then see if your app has a switch to show fps
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> crshbndct: or ask in #winehq
[11:34] <Eidel> Does anyone know how to include mounted network locations in save dialogs? https://launchpadlibrarian.net/60061325/2010-12-03-193539_1360x768_scrot.png
[11:34] <Eidel> without using stuff like sshfs
[11:34] <Sidewinder1> crshbndct, Do you want to dual boot or delete windows altogether?
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> Eidel: I always run:  ln -s ~/.gvfs ~/Mounts
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> Eidel: then drag ~/Mounts in nautilus to the left panel
[11:35] <crshbndct> delete windows altogether. i finally got fallout 3 working perfect in ubuntu, and that was the only reason i still had windows
[11:36] <Eidel> ActionParsnip: Cool. Will try!
[11:36] <executionist_> apps from the ubuntu software center always slow to download?
[11:36] <Sidewinder1> crshbndct, ext4 would be the normal filesystem; also ext3, but it's older.
[11:36] <Eidel> ActionParsnip: Yay. Thanks alot
[11:37] <doubi> Greetings all. I know how to set the Title of an individual tab in gnome-terminal, so that when that tab is selected the Window takes on that title. It would be nice not to have to name each of my tabs though. Is there a way to set the name of a gnome-terminal Window, irrespective of the names of the terminal tabs?
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> executionist_: try a different server. May help. I always use apt-fast in cli. I find software-centre too slow
[11:37] <crshbndct> i was more wondering which partition sizes i should go for.. its a 500gb drive
[11:37] <crshbndct> and i was thinking /-64gb /home-the rest of the drive.
[11:38] <crshbndct> but then i read that you should have a /var partition too
[11:38] <executionist_> could take a while to find the optimal server. the default is too slow
[11:38] <th0r> crshbndct: you probably won't need more than 20GB for / ... if you have more than 2GB ram and don't intend to suspend to disk you can skip swap
[11:39] <executionist_> btw I didnt see there were multiple servers :D
[11:39] <Sidewinder1> crshbndct, Never heard of a separate /var.
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> executionist_: worth it in the long run
[11:40] <crshbndct> i have 8gb ram and i dont have swap atm
[11:41] <th0r> crshbndct: I would set 20GB for / and put the rest in /home. I set aside 20GB and am only using about half that.
[11:41] <zykotick9> crshbndct, i wouldn't both trying to separate /var or /usr (unless you're installing a server), more trouble then it is worth on a desktop.  I also wouldn't recommend you forgo swap entirely, just create a small one.
[11:42] <zykotick9> s/forgo/NOT forgo/
[11:42] <crshbndct> yeah i currently have the LAST 4gb of my drive as swap. it never gets used except when VLC has a brainfart
[11:42] <executionist_> you can set aside space for /home too?
[11:43] <suman_> hey hi when ever i connect my iphone to the computer it says unable to mount iphone..  unhandled lockdown error (-4)
[11:43] <suman_> any help
[11:43] <Sidewinder1> executionist_, Yes.
[11:43] <crshbndct> i will probably have a 40gb for /, as flightgear with the entire world worth of landscape files is 18gb, and it install into /bin/share/blah/blah
[11:43] <ActionParsnip> executionist_: sure, a seperate /home partition makes backup easier and reinstalling easy too, you just tell the installer to not format the partition and mount it as /home and your settings will stand
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> crshbndct: woah, thats a lot
[11:44] <executionist_> right now I put some 300 for / and 10 for swap
[11:44] <suman_> can i get some help please
[11:44] <th0r> crshbndct: I have flightgear installed, but not the world <smile>. with 500GB you can afford to be generous
[11:44] <executionist_> is that the wrong way?
[11:44] <Dazzled> vlc brainfarts a lot lately
[11:45] <squig> suman_, ask away
[11:45] <Dazzled> to the point I'm looking for diapers
[11:45] <suman_> hey hi when ever i connect my iphone to the computer it says unable to mount iphone..  unhandled lockdown error (-4) ...any help
[11:45] <th0r> Dazzled: I went back to an earlier version of vlc...seems the latest 'improvements' leave something to be desired
[11:45] <squig> suman_, what do you want to happen?
[11:46] <suman_> i just want to copy some of the photos from my iphone to the computer
[11:46] <suman_> but when ever i try to connect my iphone to the computer .. it pops up the message
[11:46] <executionist_> get an android dude
[11:46] <squig> suman_, there is a deamon that runs on your computer that runs when you plug your iphone in and it appears to be broke
[11:46] <squig> executionist_, my android phone is great, apart from when it turns it self off
[11:46] <suman_> O_o...
[11:47] <suman_> any suggestion on how to fix it
[11:47] <suman_> ?
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> Dazzled: which version?
[11:47] <executionist_> squig,  make and model? why would it turn off?
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> Dazzled: of vlc, that is
[11:47] <squig> executionist_, i guess because its buggy, is a zte blade running cm7.0.3
[11:47] <zykotick9> squig, it's a daemon not a deamon ;)
[11:48] <executionist_> squig,  maybe try the stock rom
[11:48] <crshbndct> th0r i know. i went on an ftp spree one weekend and d/l'd the whole lot
[11:49] <squig> executionist_, aah its not much use at all with the stock orange rom
[11:49] <executionist_> squig, lol is it still on 1.6?
[11:50] <squig> executionist_, its a strange orange thing, I acquired the phone to see how android was vs iphone
[11:50] <executionist_> squig,  and what was the verdict
[11:50] <squig> oh completely confused, where do flash updates come from for chromium
[11:50] <squig> android is cheaper and interesting but my iphone 4 was loverly
[11:50] <cricket42> how to check what motherboard i have from linux?
[11:51] <Dazzled> sorry, was distracted for a moment
[11:51] <Dazzled> The Luggage IIRC
[11:51] <ActionParsnip> squig: if you have flashplugin-nonfree then it will use that
[11:52] <SHADOW_LIONHEART> buongiorno a tutti
[11:52] <Sidewinder1> cricket42, I'm just guessing, but have you tried sudo lshdw?
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> cricket42: sudo dmidecode --type baseboard
[11:53] <Sidewinder1> !it > SHADOW_LIONHEART
[11:53] <squig> ActionParsnip, i do and im quite confused chromium is showing version 9.0.999 apt is showing  flashplugin-nonfree                            10.3.183.7ubuntu0.10.04.1
[11:54] <Dazzled> ActionParsnip, 1.1.9 The Luggage
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> squig: then it will use that package, there is a flash 11 rc if you want from omgubuntu just remove the flashplugin-nonfree and flashplugin-installer package and copy the .so to /usr/lib/chromium-browser/plugin   There may be a deb too
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> Dazzled: and the output of: lsb_release -sc
[11:55] <squig> ActionParsnip, i am happy with 10.3.183.7 I dont get where 9.0.9999 is coming from
[11:55] <Dazzled> ActionParsnip, natty
[11:56] <executionist_> chromium better then firefox?
[11:56] <executionist_> *than
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> Dazzled: sudo apt-add-repository ppa:chimerarevo/vlc/ubuntu; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade       will give 1.1.11
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> executionist_: there is no better, or best.
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> executionist_: some like chromium, some hate it and like firefox
[11:56] <ssk_the_gr8> intalling extension pack on virtualbox i get an error
[11:56] <ssk_the_gr8> NS_ERROR_FAILURE (0x80004005)
[11:57] <Dazzled> ActionParsnip, thanks, trying that now
[11:57] <ssk_the_gr8> i'm trying to install the usb extension pack
[11:57] <ssk_the_gr8> waht is the fix?
[11:57] <squig> i love chrome/ium except with google services where it is much slower (go figure)
[11:57] <bjarni> Hi all.  How do I upgrade python on my Ubuntu 9.10 (64 bit).  The version installed is 2.6.4.  Seems to be the latest supported on this ubuntu version.  I read somewhere python2.7 doesn't work, but what about 2.6.7 for instance?
[11:57] <crking> hi
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> bjarni: Karmic is no longer supported here or anywhere else
[11:57] <squig> is there a way to see what package provides a file?
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> squig: dpkg -S filename
[11:58] <crking> what package should i install . to make file-roller enable to unarchive the fole.r01 fole.r02 fole.r03 ...... fole.r0n
[11:58] <cricket42> did it..thanks
[11:59] <ActionParsnip> cricket42: unp rar unrar p7zip-full p7zip-rar
[11:59] <Sidewinder1> NP
[12:00] <bjarni> Yes ActionParsnip.  That's among the reasons I was asking this morning about how to upgrade to the latest version.  I have 9.10, 64 bit.   There are instructions on the ubuntu site that i'll have to upgrade incrementally.  Is that the way to go - and can I upgrade to 32 bit?
[12:01] <crking> hjsplit ARCHIVE TYPE in linux?? what is the package? for file roller
[12:01] <squig> dpkg -S  /var/lib/flashplugin-installer/npwrapper.libflashplayer.so
[12:01] <squig> dpkg: /var/lib/flashplugin-installer/npwrapper.libflashplayer.so not found.
[12:01] <squig> howcan that be?
[12:02] <ActionParsnip> squig: dpkg -S libflashplayer.so
[12:03] <ActionParsnip> squig: is your OS 64bit?
[12:03] <squig> dpkg: *libflashplayer.so* not found.
[12:03] <squig> yes im 64 bit
[12:04] <ActionParsnip> squig: can you give a pastebin of:  lsb_release -a; uname -a; dpkg -l | egrep "flash|gnash|swf"   and I can advise (get you 64bit flash instead of stupid nspluginwrapper + 32bit flash)
[12:04] <crking> anyone????
[12:05] <Faustus2> how does one get italic in gnome-terminal (vim)?
[12:05] <ActionParsnip> bjarni: you will need a reinstall if you want to change arch (64bit to 32bit)
[12:05] <Stanley00> crking: rar unrar p7zip-full p7zip-rar will help
[12:05] <ActionParsnip> cricket42: also install unp :)
[12:06] <crking> Stanley00:  what exactly for split archive ?
[12:06] <bjarni> ActionParsnip: Will my home directory stay intact?
[12:06] <Stanley00> crking: I think unrar will know what to do with r01 file :D
[12:07] <Sidewinder1> bjarni, You should back-up yout /home.
[12:07] <ActionParsnip> cricket42: split archives can be used by many compression tools, the commands they give will handle it. you don't have a different rar manager in windows for split rar files do you? It's the same app
[12:07] <Sidewinder1> your, even.
[12:07] <bjarni> ok.  Just one more question.  Is the 32 or 64 bit better?
[12:07] <ActionParsnip> bjarni: if you have /home on a seperate partition then yes. Your backups can easily be used if you don't
[12:07] <squig> ActionParsnip, driving me crazy, 2 computers which should be the same flash works on one and not on the other
[12:07] <squig> Distributor ID:	Ubuntu
[12:07] <squig> Description:	Ubuntu 10.04.3 LTS
[12:07] <squig> Release:	10.04
[12:07] <squig> Codename:	lucid
[12:07] <FloodBot1> squig: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:07] <ActionParsnip> bjarni: there is no single answer to that
[12:07] <squig> oops sorry paste
[12:08] <ActionParsnip> squig: Use a pastebin as I CLEARLY asked
[12:08] <ActionParsnip> thanks :)_
[12:08] <bjarni> ok ActionParsnip, Sidewinder1, thanks :-)
[12:08] <Sidewinder1> NP
[12:08] <squig> ActionParsnip, tried to cut and paste failed http://pastebin.com/k26sKDmW
[12:08] <ActionParsnip> squig: np man
[12:08] <squig> was trying to paste the pastebin address
[12:08] <Guest99447> quit
[12:09] <szuja> hi
[12:10] <wielkiszu> hi :)
[12:10] <ActionParsnip> squig: http://pastie.org/2508056
[12:11] <ActionParsnip> squig: will also install the 11.0.1 rc :)
[12:11] <ries> hello! Is there a command to view the license info of a package ?
[12:13] <markit> hi, I've insalled 11.04 on a laptop of a friend of mine. Today he tells me (and I've seen that is true) he turns the laptop on and only a blinking cursor on the top left apperars, if then he presses "power off" the laptopt powers off. Could it be that he has done some "suspension" and we are not able to boot anymore? Any tip?
[12:14] <Mrokii> Hi. An app has crashed just when I opened a menu (in the menubar) and now I have an "empty" square where the menu should have rolled down. Is there a way to get rid of that without a logout?
[12:17] <SwitchDK> Mrokii: Are you able to right click on it and select close or remove or something similar?
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> squig: obv, close all browsers and rerun to load the new plugin
[12:17] <Mrokii> Nope
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> Mrokii: are you using unity?
[12:17] <Mrokii> SwitchDK: That never works in these cases (had that before as well)
[12:17] <Mrokii> ActionParsnip: No, I am using the classic desktop
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> Mrokii: ;press ALT+F2 and run:  killall gnome-panel
[12:18] <lebear> hello guys, you don't mind a non-ubuntu related question?
[12:18] <ActionParsnip> Mrokii: it will rerun and should be ok
[12:18] <ActionParsnip> lebear: yes, this is ubuntu only support
[12:18] <Mrokii> ActionParsnip: Thanks, will try.
[12:18] <lebear> is there any general support channels on the ubuntu network?
[12:18] <ActionParsnip> lebear: #linux maybe
[12:18] <lebear> hardware?
[12:19] <ActionParsnip> ##hardware
[12:19] <ikonia> lebear: ubuntu network ?
[12:19] <bazhang> !alis | lebear
[12:19] <iceroot> !alis | lebear
[12:19] <bazhang> ikonia, ubuntu software lists freenode as ubuntu servers
[12:19] <ikonia> ahhh
[12:19] <Mrokii> ActionParsnip: Worked like a charm, thanks :)
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> Mrokii: np man, just so you know from Oneiric onwards will use unity2D and will replace ubuntu classic session
[12:20] <lebear> thanx
[12:20] <Faustus2> how does one get italic in gnome-terminal (vim)?
[12:21] <Mrokii> ActionParsnip: Yeah, I know, unfortunately.
[12:22] <frantk> lebear: the most general support channel is #freenode
[12:23] <iceroot> Faustus2: ?
[12:23] <iceroot> Faustus2: the font?
[12:23] <ActionParsnip> Mrokii: xfce isn't a tonne different to gnome in looks and menus
[12:23] <jrmcm1985> can i ask a question about general scripting here or is there another channel i should look in?
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> jrmcm1985: ask away
[12:24] <iceroot> ActionParsnip: but a lot in performance :)
[12:24] <Stanley00> jrmcm1985: try join #bash :)
[12:24] <Pici> jrmcm1985: #bash might be more relevant, but you're welcome to ask here (we might send you away though) :)
[12:24] <iceroot> jrmcm1985: #bash # python and so on
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> iceroot: i dunno, xubuntu is losing its light edge if you ask me
[12:24] <jerk> hey there... recently switched to ubuntu 10.04 from windows... and it's awesome!!!
[12:25] <iceroot> ActionParsnip: xubuntu is a good choise if you like gnome2 but perfomance on xubuntu isnt better then on ubuntu-desktop
[12:25] <Faustus2> iceroot: no.. one can use italic and bold in vim and i think with "echo"
[12:25] <Mrokii> ActionParsnip: I have only looked at that briefly and I think it looked rather ugly to me. But maybe I should give it another try. Or maybe I'm thinking about something else, not sure.
[12:25] <Dazzled> does anybody know if anything has improved in the plymouth package?
[12:25] <iceroot> ActionParsnip: so there is only one supported DE in ubuntu left which doesnt come with very strange features
[12:25] <Dazzled> was looking for some boot animations for a terminal, but plymouth doesn't look good
[12:25] <Dazzled> and doesn't work half of the time
[12:25] <Kartagis> how to lengthen the default password to 12?
[12:26] <Sidewinder1> jerk, Welcoma aboard. :-)
[12:26] <Sidewinder1> Welcome, even.
[12:26] <ActionParsnip> iceroot: lubuntu is official from oneiric onwards afaik
[12:26] <jrmcm1985> lol ok thx everyone. what im looking for is a way to run a script have it ask a yes or no question, read the answer and run another script or exit. then after the script second script has run ask the same yes/no question.
[12:26] <iceroot> ActionParsnip: yes
[12:26] <jerk> thanks Sidewinder1
[12:26] <jrib> Kartagis: there is no default password
[12:26] <iceroot> ActionParsnip: and that is very good and i like lxde very much
[12:26] <jerk> I just wanted to check out the place, so to say
[12:27] <Kartagis> jrib: Warning: truncating password to 8 characters
[12:27] <squig> jrmcm1985, it looks like your trying to write a program
[12:27] <Kartagis> I mean this
[12:27] <jrib> Kartagis: context?
[12:27] <iceroot> ActionParsnip: i hope they never do something like gnome2 - gnome3, kde3 - kde4, gnome - unity
[12:27] <Kartagis> jrib: userdel command
[12:27] <squig> was supprised the removed gnome2 from the new release :/
[12:27] <squig> it will be the end of my ubuntuing
[12:28] <bazhang> !ot | squig
[12:28] <iceroot> squig: try xubuntu and lubuntu
[12:28] <jrmcm1985> squig: yea sorta
[12:28] <iceroot> squig: all other distris will remove gnome2 too
[12:28] <jrib> Kartagis: what ubuntu version is this and what did you type exactly?
[12:29] <Kartagis> jrib: useradd -m -N -p $(openssl passwd -crypt passthatexceeds8chars) users
[12:29] <ActionParsnip> iceroot: 'mate' exists, it's unofficial though
[12:29] <iceroot> ActionParsnip: based on?
[12:30] <ActionParsnip> squig: there are other DEs than gnome
[12:30] <iceroot> ActionParsnip: or something different?
[12:30] <ActionParsnip> iceroot: gnome2, check omgubuntu
[12:30] <jrib> Kartagis: this is an issue with your usage of openssl
[12:30] <iceroot> ActionParsnip: but no support anymore from the gnome-team
[12:30] <Stanley00> jrmcm1985: look like you need to read some bash basic, info bash is also good
[12:30] <ActionParsnip> squig: you can run KDE and run al the Gnome apps you do now. No Unity and you can stay using Ubuntu...
[12:30] <ActionParsnip> iceroot: true
[12:30] <squig> ActionParsnip, kde makes me sad
[12:30] <jerk> one thing I need to ask is.. how to get BOTH my speakers and headphone to work at the same time in Ubuntu
[12:30] <Kartagis> jrib: hmm, is there a way not to truncate the pass?
[12:31] <ActionParsnip> iceroot: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/08/gnome-2-forked
[12:31] <iceroot> ActionParsnip: one very big advantages of debian is that they are very slow so the next release will also contain gnome2
[12:31] <Kartagis> they removed gnome2 from 11.10?
[12:31] <Pici> iceroot, ActionParsnip, squig: Can we please move the discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:31] <iceroot> Kartagis: yes
[12:31] <ActionParsnip> squig: LXDE? XFCE? E17? Awesome? Open/flux/blackbox?
[12:31] <jrib> Kartagis: don't use openssl?
[12:31] <iceroot> Pici: its ubuntu related about what de to use
[12:32] <lebear> yeah, but there will be a "GNOME3 Classic" mode (right?)
[12:32] <Kartagis> jrib: then pass is plaintext
[12:32] <Sidewinder1> jrib, Kartagis Sounds like ubuntu has a max. of characters for psswd and he's wondering if there's a way to increase that, no?
[12:32] <jrib> Kartagis: no
[12:32] <jrib> Sidewinder1: no that's not the issue
[12:32] <bazhang> lebear, no
[12:32] <Sidewinder1> jrib, Sorry, I misunderstood... :-(
[12:32] <squig> ActionParsnip, that you for the fork message, I think that was very ontopic. I havnt touched E since the 90's
[12:32] <Stanley00> lebear: it only has unity and unity2d :)
[12:32] <lebear> Oh my... I hate unity
[12:33] <lebear> just have to wait for a workaround then
[12:33] <ActionParsnip> squig: still, there are alternatives. You may find gnome2 gets dropped by the gnome team. What then? Drop Linux??
[12:33] <Pici> #ubuntu is for support only. #ubuntu+1 for Oneiric discussion, other discussion in #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:33] <Kartagis> jrib: it is, I've just checked /etc/shadow
[12:33] <iceroot> squig: xfce4 looks like gnome2 if you like the look and feel of gnome2
[12:33] <iceroot> squig: build with "xubuntu-desktop"
[12:33] <jrib> Kartagis: your issue is the way you are generating the hash
[12:33] <Kartagis> Sidewinder1: exactly
[12:34] <Pici> !ot | iceroot ActionParsnip squig etc
[12:34] <iceroot> Pici: its not offtopic
[12:34] <squig> yes, xfce is possibly the way forward
[12:34] <jrib> Kartagis: here, read this: http://www.gnu.org/s/libc/manual/html%5Fnode/crypt.html
[12:34] <lebear> one thing that annoys me with Unity is the Zeitgeist database, which keeps track of everything you do. I know it's core to Unity functioning, but is there a way to get rid of it anyway?
[12:34] <Pici> iceroot: yes it is.  If you want to talk about Oneiric, join #ubuntu+1
[12:34] <iceroot> Pici: xubuntu-desktop is part of ubuntu
[12:34] <iceroot> Pici: we are talking about xfce4 not 11.10
[12:34] <squig> i have 100 workstations I have to maintain and the desktop changes are too much
[12:34] <Pici> iceroot: you're all discussing a lot of things.
[12:34] <iceroot> Pici: imo all related to ubuntu and 11.04
[12:35] <bazhang> iceroot, please, its gotten way offtopic
[12:35] <Pici> iceroot: its related to 11.10
[12:35] <Sidewinder1> Kartagis, I have no idea how to increase the max. char. for password; I thought that was what you were asking.
[12:35] <jrib> Kartagis: if you want to use it through bash, there's a crypt function in perl
[12:35] <iceroot> Pici: i dont think so but because you have the possibility to use /kick i am quit now :)
[12:36] <squig> is xfce in 10.04 ?
[12:36] <iceroot> squig: yes
[12:36] <iceroot> squig: called "xubuntu-desktop"
[12:36] <jrib> Kartagis: once you read that page to understand the issue, if you're not sure what to do, googling "useradd perl crypt" will give you plenty of example usages
[12:37] <jrib> Kartagis: of course now the real question is why are you doing this?  That is why aren't you just entering the password later instead of putting the password in plaintext in your shell's history?
[12:40] <Kartagis> jrib: I wanted to use a script to add users
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> squig: or install xfce4  for a minimal xfce where you can use your current gnome apps
[12:40] <jrib> Kartagis: why?  Do you want to add users in bulk or something?
[12:41] <Atharva> Hi....sry to ask this question on this channel..But does cooling the CPU increases the speed of it ?
[12:41] <iceroot> Atharva: no
[12:41] <Blinny> Recently upgraded from 8.04.4 to 10.04.3. I'm experiencing a phenomena where a NIS slave will not bind to an NIS master if network-manager service is started. If I stop the service, suddenly NIS will bind and start. Anyone know the cause of this problem off-hand?
[12:41] <jrib> Atharva: ##hardware
[12:41] <__njvic> hello there... i am getting a 'permission denied' error when dpkg tries to install a package (apache2.2-common).  So I tried manually changing permissions on the file in question, and get permission denied.  I am running the commands as root, how do I try and resolve this problem?
[12:41] <Phase> I use Lubuntu (lxde+openbox), what would be a good small program to install to assign a global hotkey to a command? I'd want it to support multiple keys of course, and particularly the super/winkey key
[12:41] <squig> Atharva, iceroot no unless the speed has been limited because of its temp
[12:41] <jrib> __njvic: pastebin full input and output
[12:42] <iceroot> squig: but it makes it never faster then the default
[12:42] <Kartagis> jrib: no, just didn't want to enter the password everytime
[12:42] <Atharva> iceroot jrib squig : Thanks...
[12:42] <Kartagis> jrib: that is a bad, bad idea, yes?
[12:42] <jrib> Kartagis: "everytime"?  You're using the same password for several users?
[12:43] <Sidewinder1> ^ Than ain't a good idea. ^
[12:43] <jrib> !away > daemoneye
[12:43] <squig> there is a password generator in the repository
[12:43] <Kartagis> jrib: of course not
[12:44] <__njvic> http://pastebin.com/hgcm16Z1
[12:44] <Kartagis> jrib: I just wanted an easy way to add users
[12:44] <iceroot> squig: mkpasswd
[12:44] <jrib> Kartagis: just use adduser (not useradd) and enter the password when it prompts you
[12:44] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:44] <Phase> Kartagis: adduser
[12:44] <Sidewinder1> Mornin' Blue!
[12:45] <BluesKaj> hey Sidewinder1
[12:45] <jrib> __njvic: are you using ubuntu?
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> squig: does flash now work ok? I missed the result..
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> hi BluesKaj
[12:45] <squig> ActionParsnip, yes thank you
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> squig: cool, runs a little cleaner too
[12:46] <squig> iceroot, was thinking of apg
[12:46] <squig> ActionParsnip, I have to script that to role out to all of my machines. but the one where flash didnt work now does
[12:47] <Sidewinder1> jrib, I'm not purposefully trying to be obtuse, nor am I trying to hassle you; does ubuntu have a maximum character limit of 8 for passwords?
[12:47] <__njvic> jrib: no... but am hoping for some help related to this (if I can make progress on this perhaps the other errors will go away): chmod: changing permissions of `/etc/apache2/mods-available/php5.conf': Permission denied
[12:47] <BluesKaj> hey ActionParsnip
[12:47] <__njvic> everyone in #debian is asleep
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> squig: it's in my post inastall script :D
[12:47] <ikonia> Sidewinder1: I don't believe it's 8 chars in modern linux
[12:47] <jrib> Sidewinder1: nope, but if one uses DES for the hash it truncates passwords to 8 characters.  With md5 passwords can be arbitrarily long.  See: http://www.gnu.org/s/libc/manual/html%5Fnode/crypt.html
[12:47] <squig> ActionParsnip, I use cfengine to maintain the computers
[12:48] <jrib> __njvic: ask in #debian
[12:48] <LastNight> was  incredibale, unforgetable
[12:48] <jrib> __njvic: or whatever the channel for the OS you are using is
[12:48] <sun__> whois oln
[12:48] <LastNight>  /whois
[12:48] <LastNight> what
[12:48] <Sidewinder1> ikonia, jrib Many thanks; I'm just trying to learn; I'll chk that link. :-)
[12:48] <ActionParsnip> squig: i see. I only reinstall 2 systems, the other 2 never get touched but I'll look into it. I need a prioject
[12:49] <jrmcm1985> whois ActionParsnip
[12:49] <__njvic> jrib: ok... it just so happens that on my ubuntu system, when I run chmod as root, it tells me that permission is denied.  What might cause that?
[12:49] <LastNight> why do babys smell so darn good?,man, there's nothing like it
[12:49] <jrib> __njvic: show me
[12:49] <LastNight> ?
[12:49] <Pici> !ot | LastNight
[12:49] <squig> ActionParsnip, puppet might be better/easier/nicer/freindlier but i am just used to cf-engine
[12:49] <__njvic> chmod: changing permissions of `/etc/apache2/mods-available/php5.conf': Permission denied
[12:49] <ikonia> __njvic: you shouldn't be root in ubuntu
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> squig: thanks for the heads up
[12:50] <__njvic> lol... ok whatever.. thanks.
[12:50] <jrib> __njvic: someone's already speaking with you in #debian... why don't you just get help there instead of lying here?
[12:50] <LastNight> jrib , snitch
[12:50] <IdleOne> !coc
[12:51] <squig> lol, sign code of conduct :/ no thank you
[12:51] <coraxx> question - does the Ubuntu Community have a strategy/model/procedure in regards to people who would like to learn how to contribute to Ubuntu/Linux with the development of linux-drivers (hardware-support / reverse-engineering) ?
[12:52] <IdleOne> nobody said you had to sign it but please try to follow it when in here (at least)
[12:52] <LastNight> ubuntu == FBI
[12:52] <Sidewinder1> coraxx, I believe that there's a development channel.
[12:52] <nnull> LastNight, would explain a lot lol
[12:52] <ActionParsnip> squig: its part of becoming a member :)
[12:52] <ActionParsnip> !contribute | coraxx
[12:53] <coraxx> Sidewinder1: ok ...do you know the name of the channel ?
[12:53] <Sidewinder1> ActionParsnip, Thanx, forgot about that factoid.
[12:53] <Pici> coraxx: You may want to take a look at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/participate and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ContributeToUbuntu - if you have more questions, on where to get started you can ask in #ubuntu-community team
[12:53] <IdleOne> #ubuntu-community-team
[12:53] <Pici> coraxx: Also #ubuntu-kernel might be good for your particular interests.
[12:54] <Pici> IdleOne: right, thanks.
[12:54] <IdleOne> No problem
[12:54]  * Sidewinder1 Clapps and thinks, the more the merrier.
[12:54] <FrikinBigIndian> eh der
[12:54] <FrikinBigIndian> ows it goin
[12:54] <FrikinBigIndian> bro
[12:58] <Sidewinder1> Lag? Or is everyone hiding?
[12:58] <BluesKaj> having breakfast
[12:58] <IdleOne> trolls are reassessing strategy probably
[12:58] <Sidewinder1> :D
[12:59] <coraxx> thanx all. I'm going to check-out the devel channel on this irc-server ...but I'm hoping for something more specific.
[12:59] <Sidewinder1> coraxx, It's a process; one step/link leads to another to ano...
[13:05] <coraxx> I think a more worked-out procedure in regards to people who wants to _learn_ how to contribute could be a good thing to develop in the Ubuntu Community.  So more and more who have some knowledge of programming can contribute.  AND also, so we can get people involved who have hardware that is unsupported...have them run software that can analyze it, for reverse-enginering.
[13:08] <Sidewinder1> coraxx, You may wish to ask in ubuntuforums.org, if you haven't already. Also a inquiry to Canonical might be advisable.
[13:08] <coraxx> Sidewinder1: good idea...I'll try that :-)
[13:09] <Sidewinder1> Best of luck.
[13:11] <Pici> Sidewinder1, coraxx: Canonical aren't really the folks to talk to about this.  I suggest you drop into #ubuntu-community-team and discuss your ideas there.
[13:12] <XEDDO> can somebody help me with high (100%) iowait?
[13:13] <tp43> How can I setup my mail system so I can use php mail() function?
[13:14] <tp43> you guys can't even debug a simple form-to-mail script?
[13:14] <coraxx> Pici: ok...will do
[13:14] <Blinny> Recently upgraded from 8.04.4 to 10.04.3. I'm experiencing a phenomena where a NIS slave will not bind to an NIS master if network-manager service is started. If I stop the service, suddenly NIS will bind and start. Anyone know the cause of this problem off-hand?
[13:14] <ActionParsnip> tp43: neither can you?
[13:15] <tp43> I know, I am a visitor, I am not the channel admin
[13:15] <IdleOne> you waited almost a full minute before complaining
[13:15] <tp43> I know you guys can do it, but you guys are neglecting me, anyway, its ok, your perogerative
[13:15] <ActionParsnip> tp43: what does being an admin relate to debugging ability?
[13:15] <IdleOne> !patience | tp43
[13:16] <tp43> oh, sorry, I thought I was on the php channel
[13:16] <Blinny> tp43: Here's as good a guide as any: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/installing-php5-and-apache-on-ubuntu/
[13:16] <ActionParsnip> tp43: the channel admins in here only ensure people stay on topic, nothing whatsoever to do with technical ability
[13:16] <ActionParsnip> tp43: no this is #ubuntu
[13:16] <IdleOne> tp43: you won't get much help in there with that attitude either.
[13:16] <ActionParsnip> +1
[13:16] <tp43> I know, I had an ubuntu question too
[13:16] <tp43> IdleOne, I know, they just messing with me
[13:17] <tjiggi_fo> I wonder why?
[13:17] <IdleOne> anyway, back to Ubuntu support.
[13:17] <Pici> Blinny: You may want to ask in #ubuntu-server, as your question is rather.. servery.
[13:17] <Blinny> Pici: Brilliant. Cheers.
[13:18] <tp43> I am gonna install xmail and see what happens
[13:18] <XEDDO> i'm experiencing 100% iowait during swapping, how can i prevent this?
[13:20] <usr13> XEDDO: What version of ubuntu do you have?
[13:20] <XEDDO> usr13: 11.04
[13:22] <usr13> I found some discussion about 100% iowait and while it's not all that current, it does seem to suggest some sort of solution
[13:22] <Kartagis> how can I chroot directories under /srv/www ?
[13:22] <usr13> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox-3.0/+bug/410096
[13:22] <usr13> Kartagis: You usually just chroot the root directory
[13:22] <usr13> Kartagis: What is your end goal?
[13:23] <usr13> Kartagis: What is it you are really trying to do?
[13:23] <massimiliano> !list
[13:23] <massimiliano> salve
[13:23] <massimiliano> ho un problema con uno script di playonlinux
[13:24] <IdleOne> !it
[13:24] <XEDDO> usr13: sounds like my problem, although it doesnt only happen with firefox
[13:24] <Kartagis> usr13: prevent web users from cd into other directories
[13:25] <usr13> Kartagis: aaahhh.  Ok, here is what you should do.  Create users on the system for each.
[13:25] <bambanx>  i have python 2.6 on my system and i wanna install 2.7 , is necesary remove 2.6 version ?
[13:25] <massimiliano> I have a problem with a script for PlayOnLinux
[13:25] <Kartagis> usr13: yes I did
[13:26] <Pici> bambanx: no. You should not remove the version of python that your release come with, they can both be installed at the same time.
[13:26] <ChesterX> hi, i have been using skype on ubuntu for a while now, however i have run into a problem that I can't seem to solve => namely I can not use any combination to make special letter (e.g. e+´ = é etc...). Does anyone know why?
[13:26] <usr13> mkdir /home/user-name/www  for each and symlink www/ to /srv/www   (Apache follows symlinks by default).
[13:26] <vercingetorix> Hi, I'm trying to compile this gtk engine, when I am in the process of doing './configure --prefix/usr --enable-animation', it tells me it can't continue because there is no GTK. Specifically,"configure: error: GTK+-2.10 is required to compile aurora
[13:26] <vercingetorix> "
[13:26] <bambanx> how can i do that?
[13:27] <pimperle> hi
[13:27] <bambanx> Pici: thanks but how can i do that?
[13:27] <pimperle> i try to rebuild the dpkg source package
[13:27] <pimperle> however it looks, as if dpkg is a dependency for dpkg-source itself
[13:27] <usr13> Kartagis: So when the user gains access to the system, he only has access to /home/user-name  (which is all he needs).
[13:27] <pimperle> how can i break this circular dependency?
[13:27] <xangua> vercingetorix: sudo apt-get install gtk2-engines-aurora
[13:27] <pimperle> ah, nevermind
[13:27] <Kartagis> usr13: /srv/www
[13:27] <pimperle> i'll think about it a bit more
[13:28] <vercingetorix> much obliged xangua, thanks!
[13:29] <Guest80288> hi gays
[13:29] <XEDDO> can i prevent ubuntu from swapping?
[13:29] <usr13> Kartagis: Example.  Fred wants a site on your server and let us call it fred-wisdom  so you creat symlink like so:
[13:29] <popey> XEDDO: you can disable swap, yes, why would you want to?
[13:29] <Jackneill> hi
[13:29] <Guest80288> we have problem
[13:29] <usr13> ln -s /home/fred/www /var/www/fred-wisdom
[13:29] <XEDDO> popey: iowait takes 100% cpu while swapping
[13:30] <popey> XEDDO: consume less ram ☺
[13:30] <vercingetorix> hmm, I still have the same problem at ./configure time xangua :(
[13:30] <XEDDO> popey: yeah but how :(
[13:30] <Kartagis> usr13: chroot works only for /home/ ?
[13:30] <xangua> vercingetorix: you now have aurora engine installed....
[13:30] <popey> XEDDO: whats eating your memory? use tools like top to find out?
[13:30] <Jackneill> i wanna setup a hobby server for me. i use lampp, but only sudo can access the /var/www folder. in gui i cant use sudo, how can i fix it?
[13:30] <vercingetorix> sometimes the coffee doesn't kick in in time xangua ;)
[13:31] <vercingetorix> sorry and thanks so much
[13:31] <Pici> bambanx: sudo apt-get install python2.7
[13:31] <usr13> Kartagis: So on the server you might see /srv/www/fred-wisdom & /srv/www/george-wisdom & /srv/www/frank-wisdom  etc.
[13:31] <XEDDO> popey: i only have 512mb ram and i dont see how i could reduce the use
[13:31] <popey> XEDDO: well, first thing is to see what's using it
[13:31] <xangua> vercingetorix: you need breackfast with coffe, coffe alone doesn't gives you energy ;)
[13:31] <pd11> ecs 3
[13:32] <yeats> XEDDO: you might consider trying a lighter *buntu (xubuntu or lubuntu)
[13:32] <usr13> Kartagis: Sorry that was a typo up there.  /var/www/fred-wisdom should have been /srv/www/fred-wisdom  But anyway, you get the point.  Right?
[13:32] <Kartagis> yes
[13:32] <XEDDO> popey: well firefox takes around 200mb and xorg 50mb
[13:32] <popey> XEDDO: maybe try chromium browser?
[13:32] <XEDDO> yeats: ill check it out thx
[13:33] <bambanx> Pici: for example i need python 2.7for work with django framework when i will create projects wich of both use ?
[13:33] <usr13> Kartagis: BTW, you might get more in-depth or detailed info from #ubuntu-server
[13:34] <Pici> bambanx: Thats probably a better question for #django, but your scripts' shebang line can specify which python version you want to use.
[13:35] <bambanx> Pici: ok thanks men
[13:35] <tp43> Ubuntu has mta system setup by default, it wasn't working for me because my gmail was putting it in spam
[13:36] <tenX> tp43: of course.
[13:36] <tp43> no one said anything like of course earlier
[13:36] <usr13> Kartagis: chroot is not something you need for this situation.  Having users access the system via normal means is best.
[13:37] <tp43> tenX, debian doesn't have it setup by default, you have to install and configure it, it is easy to do though
[13:37] <parapan> Hello boys and girls> quick one ...what will you choose for a laptop installation ?? ubuntu 10.04.03 LTS or 10.10 - last version ??? and what are the differences between those two ???
[13:38] <tp43> But I am just gonna use mailto so I don't have to code defense for spammers
[13:38] <tenX> tp43: your host is not "meant" to send mail from your addresses domain i'd guess. this will therefor mostly be categorized as spam
[13:38] <TimothyA> is there a way I can disable logging system-wide? and don't give me the "logs are important" speech. It's using up 90% of my harddisk
[13:38] <usr13> parapan: LTS is good for normal desktop use.  If you want unity, go for 11.04
[13:39] <tenX> tp43: probably you should use a smarthost
[13:39] <tp43> tenX, yeah, I just wanted it for testing, but I am going with mailto, I just wanted to know that I could have it setup if I wanted to
[13:39] <usr13> parapan: And yes, I recommend the point release which right now is 10.04.3
[13:39] <tenX> tp43: k sounded like you were wondering
[13:39] <parapan> usr13 > what unity means ???
[13:39] <alkafoo> tp43: 'cause it looked like you were... /leaning/
[13:40] <alkafoo> parapan: it's just a name, for a GNOME 3 shell/configuration
[13:40] <usr13> !unuty
[13:40] <usr13> !unity
[13:40] <Sidewinder1> parapan, I'm an LTS fan, but that's me; you can look here for some basic descriptions: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_%28operating_system%29 If you haven't already.
[13:40] <alkafoo> means state of one-ness
[13:40] <usr13> parapan: unity means  .... alkafoo beet me to it! :)
[13:41] <alkafoo> in fact 'Oneness' would probably be the most apt true English way to say it
[13:41] <alkafoo> but that's not as catchy as the Latin-derived, is it
[13:42] <usr13> usr13: I have unity on a PC here and like it a lot.  It is way different, and some don't like it yet, but trust me, it will catch on.
[13:42] <parapan> Sidewinder1: I've been there .....not much help ..LTS stands for Long Time Support ......isn't that better ??? ...getting the benefit of updates for 3 years instead of being "forced" to update to the new version each year let's say ????
[13:43] <parapan> alkafoo: usr13 : thanks ...but thenthe LTS version is better correct ???
[13:43] <usr13> I think unity means togetherness or the state of everything being in one spot.
[13:44] <alkafoo> parapan: LTS is for 'long term support', so for most people yes it's a better idea
[13:44] <Sidewinder1> parapan, It's all a matter of taste; I don't prefer upgrading every 6 mos. Again, that's me; If it ain't broke, don't fix it. :-)
[13:44] <alkafoo> usr13: semantics =)
[13:44] <jamiewan> Unity is the state of being undivided or unbroken.
[13:44] <jamiewan> !topic
[13:45] <parapan> Sidewinder1: exactly my point > I had bad experience when upgrading the OS on the laptop ...2 times tried .....2 broken systems I got ...on a LAPTOP ....on a desktop PC ...it worked like a charm with no problems ...
[13:45] <usr13> parapan: I don't know if I would call it "better", it is good and what you might call a bit more conservative in relation to stability or sort of cutting edge rather than  bleeding edge.  It's hard to define.
[13:46] <andybrine> Hey everyone
[13:46] <Sidewinder1> parapan, So then, go with Lucid. My upgrade path has been: Gutsy, Hardy, Lucid and I'm "Happy as a Clam."
[13:46] <xinau> hi
[13:46] <xinau> hi alll
[13:46] <andybrine> has anyone here got a Microsoft Lifecam and used it with ubuntu?
[13:46] <xinau> :)
[13:46] <parapan> usr13: even so, it's crystal clear ...if I want more stability the LTS is the choise ...if I want latest implemented technology I'll go for the last development correct ???
[13:46] <xinau> any on here ?
[13:46] <FloodBot1> xinau: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:46] <xinau> is it possible to install ubuntu on a compact flash card (NOT USB) ?
[13:46] <parapan> Sidewinder1: thanks a lot bro'
[13:46] <Sidewinder1> xinau, Only about 1,602
[13:46] <andybrine> I am having issues with the syncing of the audio
[13:47] <xinau> Sidewinder1: ?
[13:47] <Sidewinder1> parapan, My pleasire. :-)
[13:47] <xinau> Sidewinder1: I don't understand what is 1,602 ?
[13:47] <parapan> usr13: thank's man; long live the penguin !
[13:48] <Sidewinder1> xinau, There are currently 1,604 users logged into this channel, currently.
[13:48] <xinau> hmmm
[13:48] <executionist_> lol
[13:48] <xinau> ok, the question is : Can I install Ubuntu by a compact flash disk ?
[13:48] <marko_> hello, i'm using an asus K52J laptop with 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 12) and 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GT218 [GeForce 310M] (rev a2) and the drivers program shows that the nvidia driver is enabled but not in use. How do i fix that?
[13:48] <marko_> ubuntu 11.04
[13:48] <andybrine> has anyone had any issues recording video from their webcam? I am trying to record and audio just does not want to sync
[13:49] <alkafoo> xinau: onto, yes, though there are considerations
[13:49] <alkafoo> andybrine: what res is the video?
[13:49] <rigved> marko_: are you using 11.04?
[13:49] <usr13> parapan: The chart on this site  might help you decide:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTS
[13:49] <alkafoo> marko_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[13:49] <marko_> rigved, yes
[13:50] <SamLondon> quick query about wireless. I installed 11.04 on my dad's PC and wireless was working fine....then it starting working only intermittently.....then it stopped completely. However I suggested he try booting the operating system off the iso cd....and it worked again. Anyone got any ideas why?
[13:50] <andybrine> alkafoo in this case the res does not matter as i have tried all res and still an audio sync problem
[13:50] <alkafoo> andybrine: it could matter, but if you know everything I don't guess I can help you
[13:51] <snow_ru> hi
[13:51] <yeats> xinau: even if you could, there's probably not a(n easy) way to have your computer boot from it - I would stick to USB if possible
[13:51] <alkafoo> snow_ru: hi
[13:51] <snow_ru> how to installl ubuntu on a flash card ?
[13:51] <snow_ru> compactflash card
[13:51] <rigved> marko_: this is not a bug. use ccsm to enable some effects like wobbly windows. that will make use of your nvidia card.
[13:51] <alkafoo> SamLondon: is it PCI?  TAke it out and
[13:51] <snow_ru> I meant, by a compact flash card
[13:51] <alkafoo> SamLondon: take it out and put it back in, make sure it's securely placed
[13:51] <andybrine> alkafoo, no i dont know everything at all., I have just tested it with all resolutions from the highest till the lowest and still get the issue
[13:52] <alkafoo> andybrine: have you checked online to see if your hardware is known as flaky?
[13:52] <usr13> pretty much... yea, cutting edge vs bleeding edge
[13:52] <alkafoo> snow_ru: same way AFAIK
[13:52] <parapan> usr13: yeap ..thank you ....support until April 2013 for desktop version will do fine for me :D
[13:52] <SamLondon> he's using a USB dongle
[13:52] <snow_ru> AFAIK ?
[13:52] <andybrine> alkafoo: no I havent, where can i find that out?
[13:52] <SamLondon> what confuses me is that (a) his laptop can connect fine and (b) as i say, when he ran Ubuntu off the CD, the wireless immediately worked again.
[13:52] <snow_ru> just burn iso to the flashcard and boot by the compactflashcard
[13:53] <snow_ru> ?
[13:53] <snow_ru> ?
[13:53] <FloodBot1> snow_ru: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:53] <parapan> does anyone know if the Microsoft exchange connector is working now with ubuntu mail client ??
[13:53] <alkafoo> andybrine: http://www.google.com/search?q=INSERTCAMERAMODEL%20out%20of%20sync
[13:53] <snow_ru> ?
[13:53] <Sidewinder1> parapan, You gonna' dual-boot or just jump right on in?
[13:53] <alkafoo> snow_ru: you want to install _from_ compact flash?
[13:53] <yeats> snow_ru: even if you could get ubuntu on the flash card, there's probably not a(n easy) way to have your computer boot from it - I would stick to USB if possible
[13:53] <usr13> parapan: That chart helps you plan for the future, you can see when you will be wanting or needing to do a distribution upgrade.
[13:53] <andybrine> alkafoo, ok thanks
[13:53] <rigved> parapan: you can upgrade to the next LTS: 12.04 LTS, anytime after april 2012, which is much before april 2013.
[13:53] <parapan> Sidewinder1: not a chance Ubuntu alone and W7 running in a VirtulBox box :D
[13:54] <snow_ru> yeats: the problem is that my computer does not have an option to boot from USB
[13:54] <snow_ru> :(
[13:54] <parapan> rigved: yeap , correct ..only to have the proper time to do so :D
[13:54] <snow_ru> just have an option to boot from a "Generic Compact flash card"
[13:54] <Sidewinder1> parapan, I don't do "virtual" so I have no clue.
[13:54] <yeats> snow_ru: ah - well, then try and see
[13:55] <snow_ru> which program do we use to write iso image to the flashcard ?
[13:55] <snow_ru> and make it bootable , of course
[13:55] <yeats> snow_ru: I would try unetbootin
[13:55] <rigved> parapan: just make sure that you have enough cpu speed and ram space for w7 because it will need a lot, especially in a VM.
[13:55] <Sidewinder1> !unetbootin | snow_ru
[13:56] <parapan> Sidewinder1: ok ....I need a virtualization on W7 since the mail client of ubuntu it's not working with our Microsoft Exchange Server .....I know it was a developemnt for a ME connector but ...didn't tried for 2 years by now ...and originally it was not working ..
[13:56] <Sidewinder1> K
[13:56] <SamLondon> anyone have any thoughts on this wireless issue? what might cause wireless to start working only intermittently, then stop completely if it was working fine originally?
[13:56] <snow_ru> Sidewinder1: It's not USB
[13:56] <parapan> rigved: I'm running it now also ....it is true, at the boot I cannot aford to do anything else on Ubuntu ...otherwise it will get blocked .....
[13:57] <snow_ru> it's compact flashcard Sidewinder1
[13:57] <usr13> SamLondon: Laptop?
[13:57] <Sidewinder1> snow_ru, Sorry, I'm trying to follow too many conversations... :-(
[13:57] <SamLondon> no, desktop.
[13:57] <yeats> snow_ru: the procedure would be the same
[13:57] <parapan> again ...doea anyone know if the Ubuntu mail client is working with a Microsoft Exchange server ????
[13:57] <ActionParsnip> parapan: http://fourforces.wordpress.com/2008/02/04/setup-mozilla-thunderbird-to-work-with-microsoft-exchange-server/
[13:57] <alkafoo> parapan: why wouldn't it
[13:57] <yeats> snow_ru: understand, I don't know that it will work, just that that's the way I would try doing it ;-)
[13:58] <xangua> parapan: if you want to use hotmail with evolution or other mail cliente, i recomend you to use pop3
[13:58] <parapan> alkafoo: I tried with Evolution client ...didn't worked with our ME Server ...
[13:58] <ActionParsnip> parapan: then use thunderbird
[13:59] <parapan> xangua: pop3 it's out of the question on my server ...
[13:59] <alkafoo> parapan: you probably didn't configure it as required, then
[13:59] <xangua> ActionParsnip: interesting, tried yourself¿
[13:59] <ActionParsnip> parapan: there are loads of mail clients for Ubuntu
[13:59] <rigved> parapan: i had heard that evolution did have ms exchange support. i remember it being discussed in UDS O.
[13:59] <alkafoo> parapan: seriously?
[13:59] <parapan> ActionParsnip: good to see ya again > I'll give that link a try ....10x
[13:59] <ActionParsnip> xangua: no but if you check this: http://duckduckgo.com/?q=thunderbird+exchange+server   it seems a lot of folks say it can
[13:59] <usr13> SamLondon: Intermitten problems are the hardest to solve.  I had a laptop like that, I nearly gave up on it, but finally, it just started working again and hasn't stopped in a while.  It is the laptop that the XYL uses in the living room and it gets used all the time.  It almost never fails her any more.  For a while I had a wireless bridge on it.
[13:59] <ActionParsnip> parapan: see the link above
[13:59] <parapan> K
[14:00] <parapan> thank you all >I'll come back with questions if any :D
[14:00] <Sidewinder1> parapan, Guess you already tried messin' w/Thunderbird.
[14:00] <parapan> Sidewinder1: once ...long time ago :D
[14:00] <Sidewinder1> parapan, Best of luck. :D
[14:00] <usr13> SamLondon: Waht WiFi card does it have?
[14:05] <usr13> ls
[14:08] <Jackneill> i wanna setup a hobby server for me. i use lampp, but only sudo can access the /var/www folder. in gui i cant use sudo, how can i fix it?
[14:08] <andybrine> alkafoo are there any extra drivers you can install for webcams
[14:08] <alkafoo> course
[14:09] <jrib> !permissions | Jackneill
[14:09] <alkafoo> Jackneill: sudo Nautilus
[14:09] <houdini> I have just complted an fresh install but apt will not upgrade...any ideas?
[14:09] <jrib> houdini: how are you trying?
[14:09] <jpds> !gksudo | alkafoo
[14:10] <houdini> I have the sun icon at the top right just click it
[14:10] <Jackneill> thanks
[14:10] <Abhinav1> when I start my laptop, I have to run modprob b43 for wireless.. Can I put it in startup?
[14:10] <th0r> Abhinav1: add it to /etc/modules
[14:11] <th0r> Abhinav1: just put b43 on a line by itself
[14:11] <Abhinav1> ok let me try
[14:11] <Abhinav1> th0r: thanks
[14:11] <alkafoo> !ifitworksitworks
[14:11] <Yvonne1> Didnt use this comp for a while.. now it needs an update. still ubuntu 9.04. But i cant install anything, cuz its no longer supported. how can i do the upgrade?
[14:12] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades Yvonne1
[14:12] <xukun> I have raid1 disk created with mdadm. now I booted using live cd. How can mount the raid1 disk's?
[14:12] <Sidewinder1> Yvonne1, Back-up your /home to external and fresh install 10.04.
[14:13] <Sidewinder1> Yvonne1, Or: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades#Why%20choosing%20a%20fresh%20install
[14:14] <Sidewinder1> oops; too slow. ;D
[14:14] <Yvonne1> kk. i will take a look, but it keeps saying i cant update:S
[14:16] <ActionParsnip> Yvonne1: i'd go for a clean install
[14:16] <Theishi> i created a program and put it in /usr/bin, but when i try to run it ubuntu thinks i want to run something else that isn't installed. Any way to get ubuntu to run the file and ignore the other program of a similiar name?
[14:16] <Yvonne1> bu they advice against that ;)
[14:16] <xukun> ActionParsnip, can u please help me access my raid1 disk?
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> xukun: i don't use softraid, sorry
[14:17] <th0r> Theishi: try using the full path and filename
[14:17] <alkafoo> Theishi: /usr/local/bin/ would be more appropriate
[14:17] <xukun> ActionParsnip, np
[14:17] <Theishi> alkafoo: that will work, but defeats the purpose, i do not want to type that each time
[14:17] <Theishi> th0r: anyway i could type it faster then that
[14:17] <alkafoo> Theishi: you shouldn't have to, it should defeat the problem
[14:18] <joki3> How do i check what driver my blackbuntu machine is running? How do i check if it's either nvidia or nouvea itself who is managing my graphic card?
[14:18] <Theishi> oh opps sorry
[14:18] <alkafoo>  /usr/local/bin/ should be first in your path
[14:18] <Theishi> i placed it is /home/me/bin
[14:18] <alkafoo> joki3: lsmod, lspci -k
[14:18] <joki3> alkafoo: thank you
[14:18] <alkafoo> joki3: lsmod | grep -i nvidia, rather
[14:18] <th0r> Theishi: then create a link from there to /usr/local/bin
[14:19] <Theishi> hmm ok
[14:19] <yeats> !derivatives | joki3
[14:19] <alkafoo> you should be able to just copy it there
[14:19] <xukun> can somebody please help me access my software raid1 disk's?
[14:19] <joki3> I got it guys. Thanks
[14:21] <Theishi> th0r: it doesn't work, i think it needs to rescan the folder, anyway i can do this without loggin in and out?
[14:21] <alkafoo> Theishi: what doesn't work
[14:21] <th0r> Theishi: are you trying to link the whole folder? Just link your program to /usr/local/bin using teh same name for the link as the program
[14:22] <alkafoo> you should be able to just cp it in there
[14:22] <th0r> Theishi: that way, you can edit/replace/recompile the program as user and won't need root privileges every time
[14:22] <Theishi> th0r: thats what i did
[14:23] <th0r> Theishi: make sure your program is marked executable. The link should work
[14:23] <gekker> hi all, have a problem with oneiric not rebooting unless I delete /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket
[14:23] <ActionParsnip> gekker: ask in #ubuntu+1 for oneiric support
[14:23] <gekker> seems the dbus daemon gets wedged
[14:23] <gekker> ActionParsnip, thanks
[14:24] <th0r> Theishi: you know you need to use sudo to create the link, right?
[14:24] <Legend_Xeon> Port 3000 seems to be open on my ubuntu. How do i check which application is using that port?
[14:24] <llutz> Legend_Xeon:sudo lsof -i :3000
[14:25] <Sidewinder1> oneiric | gekker
[14:25] <Vidar> hi : i have ubuntu 10.04 installed on hyper-v : is it possible to let hyper-v shut it down when the host shuts down?
[14:25] <Theishi> th0r: i got it working, thanks
[14:26] <Legend_Xeon> thanks :-)
[14:26] <th0r> Theishi: my pleasure
[14:26] <luk_> t
[14:27] <Sput> hey all... I'm trying to get vpnc working in NetworkManager in kubuntu natty, and have installed network-manager-vpnc, but I'm missing the file /etc/NetworkManager/VPN/nm-vpnc-service.name - even though dpkg -L claims it's part of the package
[14:27] <Sput> what could be wrong?
[14:28] <fdasdfs> hi, some of my harddrives aren't detected in ubuntu but they are in windows 7, help?
[14:28] <tom9876543> can someone help me with ubunutu 11.04 firewall????
[14:28] <Jackneill> lol
[14:29] <Jackneill> i installed phpmyadmin but i cant access it in localhost/phpmyadmin
[14:29] <MonkeyDust>  fdasdfs what's the output of the command mount?
[14:29] <fdasdfs> MonkeyDust the harddrives aren't listed in /dev/
[14:29] <alkafoo> fdasdfs: they aren't listed by sudo fdisk -l ?
[14:30] <fdasdfs> let me see
[14:30] <Sidewinder1> !ntfs | fdasdfs
[14:30] <alkafoo> Sidewinder1: isn't that all included by default?
[14:30] <alkafoo> I mean I know it's fun to botspam, but...
[14:30] <mirandaim> how will 32x32 .png images for older apps be displayed in unity :P
[14:30] <fdasdfs> MonkeyDust no they aren't listed with sudo fdisk
[14:30] <mainemike> anyone help with an rsyslog custom config problem?
[14:30] <alkafoo> fdasdfs: are they external drives?
[14:31] <mirandaim> the .desktop menu items with 32x32 .png images
[14:31] <Sidewinder1> alkafoo, If your typing was as bad as mine you'd love the bot too. :-)
[14:31] <fdasdfs> No they are internal sata drives
[14:31] <Jackneill> i installed phpmyadmin but i cant access it in localhost/phpmyadmin
[14:31] <alkafoo> I do love bots, but I doubt the info linked is going to help
[14:31] <alkafoo> fdasdfs: what capacity?
[14:31] <fdasdfs> alkafoo 750 and 500 GB
[14:31] <Vidar> nobody with any experience with ubuntu on hyperv?
[14:31] <alkafoo> Vidar: eww? =)
[14:32] <alkafoo> fdasdfs: have they ever worked with your Ubuntu?
[14:32] <fdasdfs> I have 4 HDDs, a 64gb SSD that is detected, a 500gb that is detected, a 500gb that isn't, and a 750 gb that isn't
[14:32] <Vidar> im not extremely rich you know
[14:32] <fdasdfs> alkafoo I just installed ubuntu
[14:32] <Vidar> i only can afford 2 servers at the moment so hyper-v is my only option
[14:33] <alkafoo> fdasdfs: they're all NTFS as far as you know?
[14:33] <alkafoo> Vidar: should've afforded a Unix server =P
[14:33] <imnichol> is there a channel for the 11.10 beta?
[14:33] <fdasdfs> The 500gb and 750 gb are ntfs, but again they aren't showing up in /dev/
[14:33] <auronandace> !11.10
[14:33] <alkafoo> Vidar: try asking #windows-server or ##windows
[14:33] <Vidar> well anyway i need my ubuntu to shut down on hyper-v on command
[14:33] <vercingetorix> Hi, when trying to use different themes on ubuntu, I notice that the window controls are the same boxy gray thing despite changing the themes I downloaded. what is wrong/am i missing? looks like the default gnome for low-res or something..
[14:34] <Vidar> ill take a look thx
[14:34] <alkafoo> fdasdfs: I wonder if they could be GPT, and your install is missing gpt support in the kernel
[14:34] <mainemike> anyone help with rsyslog?
[14:34] <vercingetorix> everything else in the themes (icons, window borders, etc all work)
[14:34] <alkafoo> mainemike: what about it
[14:34] <blackcatnekonegr> Hello I need to manually delete two lines in sources.list in ubuntu 10.10., how I do that?
[14:34] <fdasdfs> alkafoo I am running 10.04 and when installing it gave GPT as option when partioning so I assume it is installed
[14:35] <rigved> mainemike: just list your problem(s) and if anyone can, they will help.
[14:35] <bazhang> blackcatnekonegr, gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[14:35] <blackcatnekonegr> Hello I need to manually delete two lines in sources.list in ubuntu 10.10., how I do that? If I try to run Synaptic it gives me an error message and refuses to load
[14:35] <mainemike>  need help with a conf file...in the file I have %$YEAR%%$MONTH% problem is that my file has exactly that instead of YYYYMM
[14:36] <alkafoo> fdasdfs: well you're probably just missing some driver
[14:36] <rigved> blackcatnekonegr: what is the error message?
[14:36] <faLUCE> hi, how can I hide show a panel with command line ?
[14:36] <alkafoo> fdasdfs: might hit up ##linux
[14:37] <alkafoo> faLUCE: does the panel have a hiding function built into it?
[14:37] <blackcatnekonegr> bazhang, gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list worked, thank you
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> faLUCE: should be able to set the hide or not hide using gconf-tool
[14:37] <blackcatnekonegr> bye and thanks
[14:37] <mainemike> my rsyslog conf $template ends with    %$YEAR%$%$MONTH%/web_%$DAY%.log"     -my file is named web%$YEAR%%$MONTH%%$DAY%.log
[14:37] <faLUCE> ActionParsnip: in which way ?
[14:38] <Sidewinder1> fdasdfs, Or you could search http://ubuntuforums.org
[14:38] <mainemike> not really the result I was expecting
[14:38] <ActionParsnip> faLUCE: http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2009/09/21/completely-hide-gnome-panel/
[14:38] <fdasdfs> I have tried searching Sidewinder1
[14:39] <ActionParsnip> faLUCE: shows the syntax of the command and how it relates to the structure in gconf-editor. You can use that to make a command (or two) to show / hise the panel etc
[14:39] <faLUCE> ActionParsnip: I tried gconftool-2 --set --type integer /apps/panel/toplevels/top_panel_screen0/auto_hide_size 0 but it doesn't work
[14:39] <faLUCE> ActionParsnip: I need to hide or show panels "on the fly"
[14:39] <ActionParsnip> faLUCE: thats the autohide size/ I only gave the link as it shows the SYNTAX
[14:40] <Sidewinder1> fdasdfs, Sorry I could not be of more help. :-(
[14:40] <fdasdfs> Sidewinder1 your bots won't help you now
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> faLUCE: run gconf-editor and you can see what thing needs setting, then CHANGE the command in the link to reflect.
[14:41] <Sidewinder1> fdasdfs, You're right; I'm done.
[14:41] <xukun> I installed mdadm using live, but  cat /proc/mdstat does not show the raid device
[14:41] <faLUCE> ActionParsnip: gconf-editor is a gui app. I want to hide/show a panel with a command line
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> faLUCE: if you actually read the command, you would see it isn't what you needed.
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> faLUCE: jesus.
[14:41] <watermark> I'm doing a reinstall of 10.04.3 server and it's being at "cleaning up" for a while now with a lot of disk activity.  Does it do a fsck at this stage or something else?
[14:41] <dougl> where do I find boot-repair in 11.04?
[14:43] <ActionParsnip> faLUCE: the command is WORKED OUT using the GUI app, once you know which item in gconf-editor needs changing, you can change the command in the page I gave to reflect the item. You can then make a script or alias which you can then use in command line to change the entry. You are only using the GUI app to INITIALLY reseaerch the layout of the settings to see which folder stores the hide etc setting.
[14:43] <ActionParsnip> fdasdfs: Do you get it now?
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> wrong tabv
[14:44] <xeNULL> hey guys need a hand with something
[14:44] <Sidewinder1> dougl, Have you looked here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> faLUCE: do you see what I mean now>?
[14:44] <xeNULL> I am having an issue with glxgears
[14:45] <faLUCE> ActionParsnip: I just found a script for doing that
[14:45] <dougl> Sidewinder1, no I looked at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[14:45] <ActionParsnip> faLUCE: I don't have gconf here as I am only SSHd to my home PC from work so I have given you the knowhow to find out for yourself which value needs changing and how it is changed in command line, which is what you wanted
[14:45] <andybrine> I just realised the audio sync on mircosoft life cinema are not very good. I would recomend having a seperate microphone to record with and it will work perfectly well
[14:47] <xeNULL> why are my graphical programs showing as running but not appearing at all?
[14:48] <luc__> hi
[14:48] <xeNULL> hey
[14:48] <ActionParsnip> xeNULL: if you run: pe -ef | less     and scroll up and down with cursors, are they running?
[14:49] <xeNULL> gimme sec...
[14:49] <nicofs> Can I set an executable bit on a file that's on an NTFS partition?
[14:49] <ActionParsnip> nicofs: no, you will need to mount the partition with executable bit set for all
[14:50] <xeNULL> AcftionParsnip...
[14:50] <xeNULL> no they are not
[14:50] <xeNULL> *Action
[14:50] <Teh_Lemon> how do i make facebook video chat work
[14:50] <Teh_Lemon> it worked before installing ubuntu...
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> xeNULL: ok then run a GUI app from terminal, what is output?
[14:50] <Teh_Lemon> tried with both chrome and firefox, none worked
[14:50] <xeNULL> kk..
[14:51] <alkafoo> Teh_Lemon: what OS were you using before installing Ubuntu?
[14:51] <eliel_> oi
[14:51] <Teh_Lemon> se7en
[14:51] <luc__> hi can anybody tell me how to fix my comp it has no sound im using a nvidia card with hdmi audio out to my tv
[14:51] <ActionParsnip> Teh_Lemon: http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=129290843763821&topic=560
[14:51] <alkafoo> Teh_Lemon: does it use Flash?  Have you installed Flash?
[14:51] <Teh_Lemon> adobe-flashplugin
[14:51] <Teh_Lemon> i think that was package name...
[14:51] <mirandaim> anyone here runs unity?
[14:52] <alkafoo> mirandaim: what if anyone does
[14:52] <iceroot> !anyone | mirandaim
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> Teh_Lemon:  can you give the output of: lsb_release -a; uname -a; dpkg -l | egrep "flash|gnash|swf"    please use a pastebin to host
[14:52] <alkafoo> luc__: are you sure your HDMI cable carries audio?  Not all do
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> mirandaim: i'm sure many do
[14:52] <Teh_Lemon> roger that
[14:52] <luc__> yes it nworked on win 7
[14:52] <alkafoo> okay
[14:53] <xeNULL> i will pm you this output ActionParsnip
[14:53] <alkafoo> you'll want to look into ALSA and pulse audio configuration, then
[14:53] <Teh_Lemon> http://pastebin.com/6Y5eK6J8
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> xeNULL: if you go to http://pastie.org
[14:53] <mirandaim> ActionParsnip: wondering if it displays menu items (.desktop files) that refer to images of 32x32 .png files
[14:53] <xeNULL> right cool
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> xeNULL: make a paste there and give the URL of the page when it changes we can ALL see it
[14:54] <xeNULL> http://pastie.org/2508825
[14:54] <ActionParsnip> mirandaim: sure, if you make a correct .desktop file, it can run whatever you want
[14:54] <xeNULL> there we go
[14:54] <luc__> what setting should they be at
[14:55] <xeNULL> thats when I try to run second life
[14:55] <xeNULL> but the same happens with glxgears
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> xeNULL: how about something more common, like gedit
[14:55] <xeNULL> gedit works fine
[14:55] <mirandaim> ActionParsnip: i meant, the old gnome-panel displayed 32x32 .png icons but the new unity perhaps has larger icons, how does it display icons of size 32x32, does it zoom them :D
[14:55] <uN1xUbunt> hi all :)
[14:55] <xeNULL> its just apps that use the graphics card
[14:55] <uN1xUbunt> Ubuntu is the best :)
[14:56] <mirandaim> ActionParsnip: because the new icons look considerably larger ;)
[14:56] <uN1xUbunt> George is king :)
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> mirandaim: you mean you want to resize the unity icons?
[14:56] <xeNULL> like glxgears, secondlife, tremulous etc.
[14:56] <gaess> hi there
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> xeNULL: do you have 3D accelleration setup?
[14:57] <mirandaim> ActionParsnip: i was asking if i install an old app that uses 32x32 icons will they show up correctly in unity screen and how bad they will look like!
[14:57] <gaess> i'm new to irc sry. can i ask questions about installing ubuntu linux here?
[14:57] <xeNULL> yeah I installed it just after I installed ubuntu about an hour ago
[14:57] <xeNULL> I used the restricted drivers program
[14:57] <xeNULL> when I run gksu amdcccle though that won't show either
[14:57] <Jackneill> i installed phpmyadmin but i cant access it in localhost/phpmyadmin
[14:58] <Jackneill> can you help me?
[14:58] <Pici> Jackneill: drop a symlink to /etc/phpmyadmin/apache.conf into /etc/apache2/conf.d/
[14:58] <ActionParsnip> Teh_Lemon: http://pastebin.com/PeeLxQpX
[14:58] <alkafoo> gaess: yes
[14:58] <Triorieel> Need help with nvidia drivers & ubuntu. I load ubuntu and I only get the wallpaper. no menu's etc...(Fresh install of 11.04 that is up to date)
[14:58] <ActionParsnip> Teh_Lemon: 64bit flash for 64bit OS
[14:58] <alkafoo> gaess: generally if what you want to talk about is what the /topic of the channel says the channel is about, it's a safe bet
[14:59] <Jackneill> pici: how to?
[14:59] <ActionParsnip> mirandaim: should be fine
[14:59] <alkafoo> Triorieel: what media did you install from
[14:59] <xeNULL> the graphics card I have is an ATI Radeon HD 5450
[14:59] <Triorieel> alkafoo, minimal cd...so everything came over the net with apt-gets
[14:59] <xeNULL> if that helps
[14:59] <id10t> 'lo all ...
[14:59] <luc__> does any body know what the setting should be set at to get sound to work on nvidia vid card with hdmi audio out to tv
[14:59] <ActionParsnip> Jackneill: cd /etc/apache2/conf.d/; sudo ln -s /etc/phpmyadmin/apache.conf .
[14:59] <Teh_Lemon> ActionParsnip: if it works, i love you
[15:00] <uN1xUbunt> Ubuntu THe BEST !!!!!
[15:00] <mirandaim> ActionParsnip: does it pick the app list from /usr/share/applications i mean unity or some other location
[15:00] <ActionParsnip> Teh_Lemon: 64bit flash is groovy, not sure abot the video chat
[15:00] <Teh_Lemon> should i go x86 chrome?
[15:00] <oCean> uN1xUbunt: we know, please stay on topic. General chat is in #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:00] <ActionParsnip> mirandaim: dash does but you can manually make a .desktop and drag it to the bar if you want
[15:00] <ActionParsnip> Teh_Lemon: no, use 64bit chrome
[15:01] <id10t> anyone familiar wtih using apt-mirror to create a local ubuntu mirror?  I'm wondering about symlinking to apache and having different ubuntu sources listed ... archive.canocial (for partnet) vs archive.ubuntu (for main, multiverse, etc).  how do i deal with that?
[15:01] <Teh_Lemon> okay
[15:01] <Jackneill> pici: actionparsnip: i did but i get 404 again.
[15:01] <xeNULL> I think I might just go back to the dark corners of crunchbang
[15:01] <xeNULL> lol
[15:01] <Pici> Jackneill: you need to restart apache after doing that.
[15:01] <Yvonne1> kk.. if i now try to upgrade.. ( i wanna upgrade from jaunty to karmic etc etc) but it says: an upgrade from jaunty to lucid is not supported.
[15:01] <Jackneill> thanks pici and actionparsnip
[15:02] <xeNULL> brb I will try upgrading to natty and see if that helps at all
[15:02] <mirandaim> ActionParsnip: heard they have changed the place where dash would show up from panel to the left bar :D
[15:03] <Triorieel> alkafoo, Having to run this on my other machine as I can't load anything in the gui under ubuntu
[15:03] <Teh_Lemon> hm... still nothing
[15:03] <xeNULL> I will be back...
[15:04] <alkafoo> Triorieel: just curious
[15:04] <alkafoo> Triorieel: you can try manually running the applications that haven't run as they should have
[15:04] <alkafoo> Triorieel: the panel, nautilus, etc., but really it might be worth considering installing from the ordinary install image
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> Jackneill: I just gave the command to do what Pici suggested ;)
[15:05] <Ristovski> Hello , I just installed ubuntu to a external HDD but I cant bbot from it , I changes the BIOS settings so it boots from Removable Dev. (Theres nothing else only my internal HDD that i dont wanna boot from
[15:05] <Teh_Lemon> ActionParsnip: youtube works, but i cannot start facebook video chat. i have webcam, its built in, im on acer aspire 5738ZG.
[15:06] <Teh_Lemon> i dont have video chat button in chat window, i used to have in on windows 7
[15:06] <edbian> Ristovski: what happens when you boot?
[15:06] <Ristovski> edbian " I cant
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> Teh_Lemon: does the webcam show in cheese?
[15:06] <Ristovski> it doesnt boot it boots windows instead
[15:06] <edbian> Ristovski: What happens when you try?
[15:06] <Teh_Lemon> hm...
[15:06] <edbian> Ristovski: Where is windows installed?
[15:06] <Teh_Lemon> it shows in skype
[15:06] <Ristovski> windows boots up
[15:06] <WhatTheQt> hi
[15:06] <Teh_Lemon> didnt install cheese on this installation
[15:06] <Ristovski> edbian : internal HDD
[15:06] <edbian> Ristovski: If you're talking to me please use my name.
[15:06] <karmst> Hello
[15:06] <tazle> how do I set the kernel that is booted by default in Ubuntu's auto-generated grub2 config file?
[15:06] <Triorieel> alkafoo, This is a fresh install because I was having these problems on my last install and I was hoping it was a problem with takign the hard drive from another machine and putting it into my new one
[15:06] <tazle> i.e. what should I edit instead of grub.cfg?
[15:06] <Ristovski> edbian: to an internal HDD
[15:06] <karmst> I'm having a networking issue with Natty
[15:06] <edbian> Ristovski: Then you're not telling the BIOS to boot the external.
[15:07] <ActionParsnip> Teh_Lemon: good enough, not sure what facebook's standing is on Linux. The group I posted may be able to advise
[15:07] <MonkeyDust> I cant use my webcam in Skype, either, also on an Acer
[15:07] <WhatTheQt> is there a way to get the motherboard's total amount of memory slots, as well as the used slots, size of RAM module, etc, from Ubuntu? Like CPU-Z on Windows?
[15:07] <Ristovski> edbian: I am I set teh first boot prioritz to Removable DEv (my external HDD is USB)
[15:07] <karmst> I was able to join my Natty to a windows domain using like-wise open
[15:07] <Teh_Lemon> you posted one discussion...
[15:07] <Teh_Lemon> not group
[15:07] <Teh_Lemon> :/
[15:07] <ActionParsnip> Teh_Lemon: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8u49W2NmA-Y   maybe
[15:07] <id10t> WhatTheQt, sudo lshw -html > somefile.html
[15:07] <karmst> however when I go to places / network / Windows the domain does not appear
[15:07] <karmst> I can ping all DC's though
[15:07] <ActionParsnip> Teh_Lemon: http://www.buzzom.com/2011/07/facebook-video-chat-not-supported-on-linux/
[15:08] <Ristovski> edbian: is there spmething I can do?
[15:08] <edbian> Ristovski: Sometimes the BIOS will list the removable hdd with the other harddrives.  I suggest you hunt around your bios some more.  If you boot a liveCD I know a command we can run that will prove that grub is installed.
[15:08] <alkafoo> Triorieel: your last install from the same minimal image?
[15:08] <nicofs> Ristovski, edbian the external hdd might not have the boot bit - or however it's called...
[15:08] <Ristovski> edbian: I cant boot even boot from USB stick so its a bios problem
[15:08] <edbian> nicofs: What is a 'boot bit' ?
[15:09] <Teh_Lemon> ActionParsnip: im new on ubuntu. i used it before but never gave it a big try
[15:09] <Teh_Lemon> will wine work
[15:09] <Teh_Lemon> ?
[15:09] <nicofs> edbian, or does that only apply to usb keys...?
[15:09] <karmst> you probably don't have an MBR created
[15:09] <Ristovski> edbian: Its a bios problem else I could boot my USB stick
[15:09] <edbian> Ristovski: agreed.  Look in more detail at your bios.  Go into every menu and setting.
[15:09] <Teh_Lemon> or it shows to target i am using linux after all
[15:09] <WhatTheQt> id10t: thanks
[15:09] <edbian> nicofs: I don't even know what the 'boot bit' is!
[15:09] <Triorieel> alkafoo, No, that was a proper install from ubuntu versions ago that has been kept upto date
[15:09] <Ristovski> edbian: I was , I tried everything , and still i cant find my HDD in it
[15:09] <watermark> I'm doing a reinstall of 10.04.3 server and it's being at "cleaning up" for a while now with a lot of disk activity. Does it do a fsck at this stage or something else?
[15:09] <rumpe1> nicofs, linux doesn't care about the boot-flag
[15:09] <karmst> edbian: he's talking about the MBR
[15:09] <semitones_tea> IdleOne: can i pm real quick?
[15:10] <edbian> karmst: The 'boot bit' is the MBR?  That does not make sense
[15:10] <nicofs> rumpe1, linux can't care if it doesn't boot in the firs place...
[15:10] <karmst> there is no such thing as a boot bit
[15:10] <alkafoo> Triorieel: and it was having the same problem as you're having now from a fresh install?
[15:10] <Ristovski> edbian: I feel so badly...
[15:10] <ActionParsnip> Teh_Lemon: could try it
[15:10] <rumpe1> nicofs, it doesn't care ever
[15:10] <IdleOne> semitones_tea: anytime
[15:11] <[THC]AcidRain> man same issue as last night. if i dont use the uuid in fstab, then my external drives are mounted as Server2_ Server_ instead of Server and Server2
[15:11] <Triorieel> alkafoo, correct...although I took it further on the last install and used drivers from the nvidia site then tried going back to the distribution drivers and that created a huge mess I felt like starting from scratch with
[15:11] <edbian> Ristovski: sorry to hear that
[15:11] <Teh_Lemon> thanks ActionParsnip. if it works, you get a cookie :D
[15:11] <Ristovski> edbian: thanks...
[15:11] <karmst> yes the MBR is what tells your drive what sector your grub is in
[15:11] <karmst> or whatever boot manager you are using
[15:12] <Ristovski> edbian: i wish there was some way to boot from it , I really love Ubuntu 10.04 but Im forced to use Windows
[15:12] <karmst> why can't you?
[15:12] <[THC]AcidRain> but if i DO use uuid,then they are mounted what appears to be 2 times. at Server Server and Server2 server2
[15:12] <Ristovski> edbian: since I cant boot from External HDD
[15:12] <[THC]AcidRain> is there any sure way around this issue?
[15:12] <karmst> just write GRUB from scratch?
[15:12] <Ristovski> karmst: read up
[15:12] <ActionParsnip> Ristovski: Ubuntu isn't always the solution
[15:12] <edbian> Ristovski: There is.  Mess with the bios settings.  Try removing the internal hdd (physically disconnect it)
[15:12] <Ristovski> edbian: laptop...
[15:12] <karmst> don't do all that
[15:13] <edbian> Ristovski: You can still remove the hdd.  (sometimes it's hard)
[15:13] <karmst> edit fstab to mount your OS partition
[15:13] <id10t> anyone familiar wtih using apt-mirror to create a local ubuntu mirror?  I'm wondering about symlinking to apache and having different ubuntu sources listed ... archive.canocial (for partnet) vs archive.ubuntu (for main, multiverse, etc).  how do i deal with that?
[15:13] <Ristovski> edbian: nah i dont wanna do that...
[15:13] <edbian> Ristovski: ok
[15:13] <karmst> then edit grub to use that as the boot
[15:13] <karmst> pretty easy
[15:13] <A_J> can tell me any sound cards which work well with ubuntu
[15:13] <edbian> karmst: he needs to edit the bios, not grub
[15:13] <[THC]AcidRain> karmst
[15:13] <Yvonne1> why cant i upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10?? It still keeps checking all the updates and it only wants to install the latest version, and that i cant do cuz its not supported..
[15:13] <[THC]AcidRain> can you help me. you seem to know a great deal about fstab
[15:13] <Ristovski> edbian: yeah ...
[15:13] <karmst> sure
[15:14] <iceroot> !upgrade | Yvonne1
[15:14] <alkafoo> A_J: ##hardware can
[15:14] <iceroot> !eol
[15:14] <A_J> thanks alkafoo
[15:14] <iceroot> Yvonne1: also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades
[15:14] <karmst> edbian: he doesn't need to do anything to his bios
[15:14] <karmst> it's linux
[15:14] <watermark> Ynonnel: pretty sure 9.10 is already at eol, so you can't upgrade to it
[15:14] <karmst> you can have it mount a NFS share and boot from it if you would want to
[15:14] <edbian> karmst: I _strongly_ disagree.  He needs to tell the BIOS to boot his external hdd
[15:15] <Ristovski> edbian: is there something I can do? (Sorry for bothering you but I feel like shattered - im trying to boot ubuntu from USB stick and now HDD for 2 weeks)
[15:15] <iceroot> watermark: you must update to 9.10 and then 10.04 (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades)
[15:15] <[THC]AcidRain> ok. if i use fstab and enter them by uuid, my comp 1. tries to boot from them, if i remove them and boot my comp, then it appears to mount them 2 times. at Server Server and Server2 Server2. if i enter them into fstab by /dev/sdf1 then it does NOT try to boot from them. and it mounts them at Server_ Server2_ and it leaves Server and Server2 as an option
[15:15] <[THC]AcidRain> karmst, ^
[15:15] <edbian> Ristovski: You need to understand your bios.  This is not something I can help with.
[15:15] <edbian> Ristovski: alternatively.  Install grub on your internal
[15:15] <karmst> edbian: then you obviously don't know how storage actually works
[15:15] <Yvonne1> 9.10 isnt eol.. but even if i wanted, i cant choose which one i want
[15:15] <Ristovski> edbian: is it safe_
[15:16] <iceroot> Yvonne1: you have to use the upgrade-manager not the update-manager (see links from ubottu )
[15:16] <Yvonne1> ow it is eol, but cant choose one anyway
[15:16] <edbian> karmst: What are you talking about?  Ristovski installed ubuntu on his external.  When he boots he gets windows (installed on an internal).  He needs to edit his bios.
[15:16] <karmst> AcidRain: is it a raid array?
[15:16] <edbian> Ristovski: yes
[15:16] <Jackneill> whats better, emesene or amsn?
[15:16] <edbian> Ristovski: but you have to boot a liveCD / liveUSB
[15:16] <Ristovski> ok
[15:16] <Ristovski> live cd
[15:16] <Ristovski> bye
[15:16] <[THC]AcidRain> karmst, what do you mean by raid array? i have 1 internal drive that SHOULD be booted from first by the bios order. and i have 2 external drives
[15:17] <iceroot> Jackneill: the one you like more
[15:17] <[THC]AcidRain> the 2 external is the issue
[15:17] <alkafoo> things that are EOL still have upgrade instructions available anyways
[15:17] <Yvonne1> and where can i find this upgrade manager?
[15:18] <karmst> what is the first line in your grub?
[15:18] <iceroot> Yvonne1: see the links from ubottu
[15:18] <iceroot> !upgrade | Yvonne1
[15:18] <iceroot> !eol | Yvonne1
[15:18] <[THC]AcidRain> karmst, the first in my grub is the internal drive. yet when the externals are hooked up and i boot my comp, it still tries to boot from them firsdt
[15:18] <luc__> can anybody tell me how to my fix sound on my comp
[15:19] <[THC]AcidRain> karmst, it ONLY tries to boot from them first when i have used their UUID in the fstab. if i dont use that, then it boots from internal
[15:19] <knobydobs> @luc__ what soundcard do you have
[15:19] <[THC]AcidRain> karmst, BUT if i use uuid then it mounts them as Server Server Server2 Server2. what appears to be 2 times
[15:19] <Yvonne1> i did try the link, but i cant do the upgrade..
[15:19] <CyborgSmurf> Could someone help me with crossover cable CAT5, XP and Ubuntu 11.04?
[15:19] <iceroot> CyborgSmurf: just ask your ubuntu related question
[15:19] <luc__> evga nvidia hdmi audio out to tv
[15:19] <Yvonne1> i mean the link with how to upgrade an EOL
[15:20] <alkafoo> luc__: hdmi audio is a fairly common issue IIRC, do some searching online
[15:20] <iceroot> Yvonne1: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades
[15:20] <alkafoo> Yvonne1: why can't you?
[15:20] <ActionParsnip> CyborgSmurf: help in what way?
[15:20] <karmst> that's weird
[15:20] <rigved> [THC]AcidRain: the hard disk boot order is decided by your BIOS settings, not your grub list.
[15:20] <luc__> i have for 6 days now
[15:20] <[THC]AcidRain> karmst, if i could take a ss of my Places menu for you. you would see more what im talking about
[15:21] <Yvonne1> cuz it keeps searching for the nwest upgrade. i cant choose
[15:21] <[THC]AcidRain> rigved, right. sry thats what i mean
[15:21] <[THC]AcidRain> meant*
[15:21] <CyborgSmurf> ActionParsnip: set up IP for both computers... (I am really bad at this so be patient)
[15:21] <knobydobs> @luc__ have a look in the software center
[15:21] <[THC]AcidRain> but what i dont understand. is why is it not being mounted to the folder Server and Server2. it looks like it is creating its own folder Server and Server2 that are not being listed
[15:22] <[THC]AcidRain> brb
[15:22] <CyborgSmurf> ActionParsnip: for playing games (StarCraft)
[15:22] <italomaia> Hi, I'm unable to boot my livecd ubuntu
[15:22] <ActionParsnip> CyborgSmurf: use network manager in the panel. click edit connections. Click wired. click your connection then cick Edit. Set the interface to static
[15:22] <Yvonne1> it keeps saying: an upgrade from jaunty to lucid is not supported
[15:22] <luc__> for what am i looking for
[15:22] <italomaia> it seems xserver is crashing.
[15:22] <CyborgSmurf> ActionParsnip: XP or Ubuntu?
[15:22] <alkafoo> italomaia: maybe it was a bad burn, using a USB stick might be better
[15:22] <ActionParsnip> Yvonne1: you can grab the karmic alternate ISO, MD5 test it, mount it and then upgrade using that
[15:22] <italomaia> alkafoo: i checked. My installed ubuntu stopped working too
[15:22] <ActionParsnip> CyborgSmurf: Ubuntu
[15:23] <ActionParsnip> CyborgSmurf: you are in the ubuntu support channel..
[15:23] <italomaia> alkafoo: i'm trying to boot from livecd to backup what was in my ubuntu local install
[15:23] <knobydobs> fixes patches control centers drivers that sort of thing
[15:23] <italomaia> I think i need to boot from livecd in text mode
[15:23] <italomaia> don't know if ubuntu supports that
[15:24] <alkafoo> italomaia: possibly; use http://www.sysresccd.org/
[15:24] <ActionParsnip> CyborgSmurf: then set the IP to siomething like 10.0.0.10 with netmask of 255.255.255.0
[15:24] <ActionParsnip> CyborgSmurf: in Windows set the IP to 10.0.0.20 and netmask 255.255.255.0
[15:25] <CyborgSmurf> ActionParsnip: static? I cant find a label with that...
[15:25] <italomaia> alkafoo: woa! I'm gonna try that. Thanks =D
[15:25] <ActionParsnip> CyborgSmurf: in the drop down, it will be DHCP, change it to Manual
[15:26] <blizzow> I ran the ubuntu installer off a usb stick I greated with the startup disk creator program.  When I try to run the install it only gives me the option of blowing away the old Windows install or manually partitioning on my own.  There used to be an option to dual boot.  How do I re-enable or get to the dual boot option?
[15:26] <ActionParsnip> CyborgSmurf: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_lkW2FMxob10/SWInewOp_yI/AAAAAAAAA2Y/dx2IsXSmH4c/s400/Screenshot-4.png
[15:26] <Koheleth> is that ikonia dic on here?
[15:26] <ActionParsnip> Koheleth: sometimes
[15:27] <Koheleth> hope not
[15:27] <jrib> Koheleth: mind your language in this channel and be respective of others
[15:27] <Koheleth> sry
[15:27] <[THC]AcidRain> /dev/sdf1                                  /media/Server   ext3  errors=remount-ro,users,user  0  0    why does my drive mount at /media/Server_?
[15:27] <Koheleth> just got kicked of from offtopic cuz he has no sense of humor
[15:27] <oCean> Koheleth: please don't continue that discussion here
[15:28] <jrib> Koheleth: this channel is for ubuntu support, nothing else
[15:28] <Koheleth> geez running 11.120 and sending loads od bugs here
[15:28] <knobydobs> hi i have an ati radeon x600 and i have installed the drivers but when i boot up the moniter says it has been disconnected p.s. i see my bootscreen untill the bootloader starts to come up then the screen goes black
[15:28] <ActionParsnip> Koheleth: oneiric is supported in #ubuntu+1 til release
[15:29] <CyborgSmurf> ActionParsnip: and what about gateway?
[15:29] <ActionParsnip> CyborgSmurf: there isn't one, that's only for web access. You can put 10.0.0.1 if you want. Doesn't do anything
[15:29] <ActionParsnip> CyborgSmurf: you may need to leave it blank if it doesn't work
[15:30] <ActionParsnip> CyborgSmurf: actually leave it blank, less confusion
[15:30] <CyborgSmurf> ActionParsnip: I will
[15:30] <CyborgSmurf> ActionParsnip: how do I know if they can find each other over the cable and not the wireless(I have that too)
[15:35] <drehdz> is there a specific channel for 11.10b1?
[15:35] <h00k> drehdz: #ubuntu+1
[15:35] <Pici> drehdz: #ubuntu+1
[15:35] <drehdz> thank you
[15:36] <CyborgSmurf> ActionParsnip: thank you for the help "connection established" fivestars rate ;)
[15:36] <msiemon> I'm kinda a noob how do I get to #ubuntu+1
[15:36] <iceroot> msiemon: /join #ubuntu+1
[15:37] <msiemon> iceroot: Thanks that's almost too easy
[15:38] <mang0> What's the differance between $: sudo apt-get remove PROGRAM and $: sudo apt-get autoremove PROGRAM
[15:38] <iceroot> mang0: remove == remove a package, autoremove = remove all packages which are no longer needed
[15:38] <mang0> iceroot: So if you did autoremove then you don't need to put in a program name?
[15:39] <iceroot> mang0: e.g. you install program a which is pulluing program b, then you remove program a and b is still installed but because it is installed only because of a autoremove will remove it
[15:39] <mastaofdisasta> hello everyone, I'm using the "openntpd" package to setup a simple workstation to server NTP sync
[15:39] <mastaofdisasta> it doesn't work however
[15:39] <mastaofdisasta> I'm using ntpdate and it will not sync
[15:39] <dori922> is rssh still good to use to allow FTP and block SSH?
[15:40] <mang0> iceroot: Gotcha. So basically sudo apt-get autoremove firefox will literally delete any packages to do wtih firefox?
[15:40] <Gerain69> Âñåì äîáðîãî âðåìåíè ñóòîê
[15:40] <stacey> hi folks.  My issue in one line: python -c "import bonobo" ImportError: No module named bonobo
[15:40] <iceroot> mang0: just "sudo apt-get autoremove"
[15:40] <iceroot> mang0: also see "man apt-get"
[15:40] <mang0> iceroot: ah, thankyou :)
[15:41] <magicblaze007> any crontab gurus here:  How frequently is this run? --> 0	7	*	*	*	rm /tmp/xyz.dat
[15:41] <iceroot> mang0: onces a day at 7oclock
[15:41] <iceroot> magicblaze007: ^
[15:42] <magicblaze007> iceroot: thanks a lot
[15:42] <Gerain69> Sorry, is this eng conference?
[15:42] <mang0> iceroot: ?
[15:42] <iceroot> Gerain69: yes
[15:42] <mang0> oh
[15:42] <Pici> stacey: Do you have the python-gnome2 package installed?
[15:42] <iceroot> mang0: wrong nick
[15:42] <mang0>  :P
[15:42] <mang0> yeah k ;)
[15:42] <Pici> Gerain69: This is the offical Ubuntu support channel.
[15:42] <stacey> Pici: according to dpkg -l yes I do
[15:43] <organiks> is there a cmd i can use to increase my network card speed to a more consistant number
[15:43] <Pici> stacey: What release of Ubuntu are you using?
[15:43] <B12f13> hi
[15:44] <iceroot> organiks: you mean to make it faster?
[15:44] <organiks> yes it fluctuates
[15:44] <stacey> Pici: Linux 2.6.27-17-generic kubutnu (linuxmce) 8.10
[15:44] <Gerain69> Who know where rus ubuntu conference, tel me please, i write by phone
[15:45] <Pici> stacey: 8.10 is no longer supported, sorry.
[15:45] <Pici> Gerain69: #ubuntu-ru
[15:45] <iceroot> organiks: lynx ebay.com is imo the only command to make it faster
[15:45] <iceroot> organiks: with other words, you cant make your card faster then it is
[15:45] <organiks> from 54 to 300
[15:45] <stacey> Pici: linuxmce 10.04 is still beta
[15:45] <organiks> no the speed changes
[15:45] <iceroot> organiks: ah you mean to use wifi in n-mode
[15:45] <organiks> yeah
[15:45] <organiks> silly me
[15:45] <iceroot> organiks: does your card support it?
[15:46] <mang0> Do you reckon it's worth doing sudo apt-get dist-upgrade?
[15:46] <organiks> yes
[15:46] <Pici> stacey: linuxmce isn't a supported variant of Ubuntu either. They have their own channel in #linuxmce
[15:46] <iceroot> organiks: and its changing from 300mbit/s to 54mbit/s sometimes? or only runs in 54mbit/s?
[15:46] <stacey> which I tried last night already
[15:46] <organiks> changes but mainly runs in 54mbit mode
[15:47] <iceroot> organiks: you can try another driver but normally wifi is setting the speed doen if the connection-quality is bad
[15:47] <shishire> Running a natty server, how do I change the size of /dev/shm?  None of the guides I can find via google mention grub2, they all edit menu.lst
[15:48] <organiks> connection is full
[15:48] <Gerain69> Ok :) *THUMBS UP*
[15:48] <Phr3d13> i need to set the capture volume of my microphone with alsa, how do i do that?
[15:49] <organiks> its a intel draft n 5100-5300
[15:50] <bill_toulas> wow 1600 users on-line that is something!
[15:51] <ActionParsnip> bill_toulas: come here on 14th october ;)
[15:51] <Phr3d13> i need to set the capture volume of my microphone with alsa, how do i do that?
[15:52] <[THC]AcidRain> ok ive managed to narrow down my issue. regardless how i enter information into fstab. it will always mount my external drives 2 times each
[15:53] <[THC]AcidRain> and as long as my external drives are hooked up to my computer, my comp will try to mount them during boot, and it fails. it trying to do this also causes grub to go crazy and needs me to do a few things
[15:53] <vercingetorix> Hi, when writing scripts for the Notify-OSD, I can't use notify-send since there is none installed on my system for some reason. However, Ubuntu tells me I have notify-osd. I even tried uninstalling notify-osd and reinstalling it. How do I get notify-send, shouldn't it be part of the notify-osd package?
[15:54] <Pici> vercingetorix: you need the libnotify-bin backage.
[15:54] <Pici> *package.
[15:54] <vercingetorix> wait, found something called libnotify-bin, apt-get'ing this first
[15:54] <vercingetorix> yep
[15:55] <nothingspecial> Phr3d13: Type alsamixer, press F4, move to the mic slider with your arrows, press M to unmute if needbe, and use your arrows to set the volume
[15:55] <honululu> hallo
[15:55] <honululu> möchte windows xp installieren und dann ubuntu
[15:56] <Phr3d13> nothingspecial, i found what i needed with a google search, ty anyway
[15:56] <iceroot> !de | honululu
[15:56] <honululu> habe 160gb festplatte
[15:56] <nothingspecial> Phr3d13: ok
[15:58] <B12f13> hi#
[15:58] <Pumpkin-> k/win2 0
[15:58] <Pumpkin-> asifasf
[15:58] <elb0w`> anyone else installing ubuntu on a macbook have no sound?
[15:59] <ActionParsnip> elb0w`: which macbook?
[15:59] <luc__> can anybody tellme how to  install video drivers a just downloaded from nvidia
[15:59] <elb0w`> ActionParsnip: macbook pro 4,1
[16:00] <ActionParsnip> luc__: boot to root recovery mode, mark the file as executable and run it, its easier to use the additional drivers app in the OS
[16:00] <ikonia> luc__: don't use them from nvidia.com - use the ubuntu drivers
[16:00] <ikonia> luc__: ubuntu ships the same drivers as from nvidia.com in the hardware drivers tool
[16:00] <ActionParsnip> elb0w`: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBook4-1/Natty    not seen that?
[16:01] <luc__> i am new to ubuntu so i dont realy know how to do things yet
[16:01] <ActionParsnip> luc__: press alt+2 and type:  driver    and wait
[16:01] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: does that work to open jocky ?
[16:01] <bobweaver> hi there I really messed up this time. I 100% removed NM, so I have no net what so ever I tred to get the .deb wicd file but my python files are not up to date
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: yeah i find it an easier way (works afaik)
[16:02] <bobweaver> is there a all in onw nm .deb file
[16:02] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: very useful, thank you
[16:02] <ikonia> bobweaver: can configure the network without network manager
[16:02] <bobweaver> is there a all in one* nm .deb file
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: might wanna test it
[16:02] <ikonia> bobweaver: installing a deb is a problem as it will miss the dependencies
[16:02] <bobweaver> ikonia: killed everythink
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> bobweaver: add the ubuntu CD as a repo then you can install from that
[16:03] <ikonia> bobweaver: it didn't kill everythimg, it removed network manager, configure the network in /etc/network/interfaces to get your machine back on the network and fix the issue
[16:03] <ActionParsnip> bobweaver: is the system a laptop?
[16:03] <bobweaver> yea 3.0.10    11.10
[16:03] <ActionParsnip> bobweaver: ask in #ubuntu+1
[16:04] <luc__> i hit alt 2 nothing  happens
[16:04] <ActionParsnip> luc__: alt+f2
[16:06] <luc__> it says could not openlocation
[16:06] <Shasirax> Hey guys
[16:07] <Shasirax> anyone know how to get rid of the 0x80004001 error message with .NET ?
[16:08] <ActionParsnip> luc__: which release are you using?
[16:08] <luc__> 11.04
[16:08] <ActionParsnip> luc__: are you using Unity or Classic session or a none gnome desktop?
[16:08] <luc__> not sure
[16:09] <ActionParsnip> luc__: ok does your desktop have a bar of apps down the left side?
[16:09] <luc__> no
[16:09] <ActionParsnip> luc__: ok lets do it the easy way. Run a terminal and run:  gksudo jockey
[16:09] <nothingspecial> luc__: Describe it please
[16:10] <mang0> How do I open nautilus as root?
[16:10] <mang0> I need to remove something from /mnt/
[16:10] <ActionParsnip> mang0: gksudo nautilus
[16:10] <mang0> ActionParsnip: Cheers.
[16:10] <rumpe1> mang0, terminal: "gksu nautilus"
[16:10] <mang0> rumpe1: Thanks ;)
[16:11] <luc__> nothing happend
[16:11] <ActionParsnip> luc__: did you get asked for a password?
[16:11] <luc__> yes
[16:11] <[THC]AcidRain> so can anyone help me fix my mount problem? i dont know how to fix the external hdd. i guess my system will just try to mount them regardless what i do, during boot
[16:11] <ActionParsnip> luc__: ok try:  gksudo jockey-gtk
[16:12] <[THC]AcidRain> if i want my system to boot properly, i have to hit f12 and select to boot from my internal drive, then i have to skip the mounting of both my external drives
[16:12] <rumpe1> ActionParsnip, do you know the difference or which command is more "secure" w.r.t. to permissions?
[16:12] <ActionParsnip> rumpe1: one uses root's profile, one uses the users
[16:12] <ActionParsnip> rumpe1: they are the same binary but the interpretter uses them differently
[16:14] <wildbat> !fstab | [THC]AcidRain
[16:14] <luc__> a list came up
[16:14] <[THC]AcidRain> wildbat, fstab is epic fail
[16:14] <ActionParsnip> luc__: yay, enable the nvidia driver
[16:14] <[THC]AcidRain> fstab is what is causing all these problems for me i believe
[16:15] <luc__> downloading now
[16:15] <luc__> how do you get the name to come on here
[16:16] <xtcv> hi everyone, i need some help
[16:16] <xtcv> I got a wireless network card that acts funny
[16:16] <xtcv> any ideas?
[16:16] <ActionParsnip> luc__: type a few of the characters of the name and press TAB
[16:17] <jstoone> xtcv: in which way funny?
[16:17] <[THC]AcidRain> xtcv, what version of linux?
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> xtcv: also what wifi chip is it
[16:17] <rumpe1> [THC]AcidRain, if you have to use f12 to start some boot-manager to select the internal drive, set the internal drive in BIOS as boot-device (with higher priority?). If linux asks to skip the external drives, because they couldn't be found, add "noauto" to their fstab-entries
[16:17] <luc__> ActionParsnip, thanks
[16:17] <d0pe> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!​,0!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[16:17] <d0pe> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!​,0!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[16:17] <d0pe> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!​,0!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[16:17] <FloodBot1> d0pe: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:18] <luc__> ActionParsnip, this is my first week using linux
[16:18] <[THC]AcidRain> rumpe1, that actually sounds good. but wouldnt noauto mean that i have to mount them manually? and my internal drive is set as the first drive to boot from
[16:18] <xtcv> ubuntu 11.04 x86  Belkin can't remember which one... some websites load fine, others load REALLY slow, or not at all.  Thing is I can hook up my android phone and wireless thether the wifi through the USB and it's fast as anything
[16:19] <rumpe1> [THC]AcidRain, noauto in fstab prevents mounting at boot-time, it doesn't prevent automount later
[16:19] <luc__> ActionParsnip, need to restart comp now
[16:19] <[THC]AcidRain> rumpe1, that sounds like a perfect fix, hang on, let me do some googling
[16:19] <xtcv> using the ath5k driver
[16:20] <jstoone> xtcv: It's necessarily your chip (hopefully it isn't). Have you tried to contact your ISP?
[16:21] <jstoone> xtcv: Sorry, It's NOT necessarily your chip*
[16:21] <xtcv> well i don't think it's the ISP, as I said, Router -> Phone (wifi) -> USB is full speed (10Mbps)
[16:21] <xtcv> Wifes laptop runs great too....
[16:21] <jstoone> xtcv: Oh, I thought you ment 3G tethering ;)
[16:21] <xtcv> just this PC
[16:22] <jstoone> xtcv: that stinks, let me google a bit.
[16:22] <xtcv> oh I 3G tether all the time... :_)
[16:22] <[THC]AcidRain> rumpe1, so for example: UUID=1d112679-6e31-481f-86eb-f7ec25756183	/media/Server2  ext3  errors=noauto,remount-rw,users,user  0  0
[16:22] <[THC]AcidRain> would this be correct?
[16:23] <jstoone> xtcv: I know! It's awesome!
[16:23] <rumpe1> [THC]AcidRain, no, noauto has nothing to do with errors
[16:24] <aple> Hey guys, how do I remove something without leaving any orphans and such? I'm trying to uninstall virtualenv and virtualenvwrapper and reinstall them completely clean
[16:24] <aple> Tried pip uninstall, but it left ~/.virtualenv
[16:24] <jstoone> xtcv: Did it work/have you tried it in the older versions?
[16:24] <luc_> ActionParsnip, still no sound but now i have the left side bar
[16:24] <rumpe1> [THC]AcidRain, why "users,user" ?
[16:24] <xtcv> It's a Belkin FD57000
[16:24] <[THC]AcidRain> well that means any user can mount, and user can write? right?
[16:25] <xtcv> Yeah in 10.04 it worked great
[16:25] <xtcv> it works well in ::gulp:: Windows 7
[16:25] <llutz> [THC]AcidRain:no, read  "man mount" again
[16:26] <bassliner> hi there. how can i enable a getty on ttyS0 on a todays ubuntu system that doesn't have an /etc/inittab file? thanks.
[16:26] <jstoone> I found this little fella': https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/775104 - could it be your bug?
[16:26] <jstoone> xtcv: Or not you bug like in your bugpost, but do you think it's the same problem?
[16:26] <[THC]AcidRain> oh its group user
[16:26] <llutz> [THC]AcidRain:no, read  "man mount" again
[16:26] <[THC]AcidRain> lol
[16:27] <knobydobs> @luc__ right click the file, go to the permissions tab and let it be run as executable
[16:27] <xtcv> ???? I'm
[16:27] <llutz> [THC]AcidRain: you set permissions using chmod/chown on ext-fs, not via fstab/mount-options
[16:27] <xtcv> confused.....
[16:27] <rumpe1> [THC]AcidRain, man mount: "user: ordinary user can mount  [and only he can] unmount"  "users: allow every user to mount/unmount"
[16:28] <rumpe1> [THC]AcidRain, why not just "defaults,users,noauto" ?
[16:28] <aple> How do I uninstall something without leaving orphans?
[16:28] <[THC]AcidRain> rumpe1, and leave out the errors option?
[16:28] <dougl> I installed windows which trashed my ubuntu install so I ran boot-repair and now ubuntu takes and incredibly long time to boot up... any suggestions?
[16:28] <dougl> ran boot-repair to reinstall grub...
[16:29] <[THC]AcidRain> rumpe1, well honestly i had it somewhat the way you are telling me before hand. then i lost so much faith in myself i downloaded storage device manager from repos. and it added that information in there just like that
[16:29] <[THC]AcidRain> and it was rated 4.5 stars
[16:29] <xtcv> dougl it's always best to install win first then ubuntu
[16:29] <[THC]AcidRain> so i assumed it knew a little more than i did
[16:29] <ThinkT510> aple: try using synaptic and find what you want to remove and select completely remove
[16:29] <ThinkT510> aple: just make sure you know nothing else depends on it
[16:30] <mang0> Is there any sort of colour calibration program for ubuntu? My screen looks seriously messed up o.o
[16:31] <AlessonZaire> I had a similar problem when I was using my on-board video card some months ago
[16:32] <rumpe1> [THC]AcidRain, i don't understand the error-option... why remount readwriteable, if there are some errors? usually you remount readonly (ro) for recovery.
[16:32] <[THC]AcidRain> rumpe1, well i took that out. like i said, that is what storage device manager did, not me
[16:33] <[THC]AcidRain> rumpe1, my next question for you. is why does it show under "Places" the device 2 times?
[16:33] <luc_> knobydobs, it says could not create the archive archive not supported
[16:33] <[THC]AcidRain> yet in /media/ there is only 1 mount point for each one
[16:33] <IdleOne> how do I apt-cache search string with multiple words in it?
[16:34] <rumpe1> [THC]AcidRain, uh... that i don't know.
[16:34] <[THC]AcidRain> mount: /dev/sdc1 already mounted or /media/Server2 busy.mount: according to mtab, /dev/sdc1 is already mounted on /media/Server2
[16:34] <aple> What are some possible reasons Terminal wouldn't recognize "workon" and "lsvirtualenv"?
[16:34] <[THC]AcidRain> that is an error i get when i click on it under "Places"
[16:34] <aple> "Command not found"
[16:34] <knobydobs> ok what type of archive is it
[16:34] <[THC]AcidRain> if i click on the other option under "Places" it actually opens the drive to be browsed
[16:34] <aple> Terminal says virtualenvwrapper is installed, but it's not playing nice :(
[16:34] <knobydobs> @luc__ ok what type of archive is it
[16:34] <Calinou> how can I revert to a older firefox?
[16:35] <Calinou> I can't play Quake Live, not compatible with firefox 6
[16:35] <Calinou> it IS compatible with firefox 3, though, possibly 4 or 5
[16:35] <glebihan> IdleOne, use quotes around the words, apt-cache search "firstword secondword"
[16:35] <[THC]AcidRain> Calinou, in synaptic package manager, you get the option to rollback
[16:35] <luc_> knobydobs, doesnt say but the nvidia  file  looks like paper with writting onit
[16:35] <Calinou> okay, thanks
[16:36] <glebihan> IdleOne, but it may be more efficient to do something like : apt-cache search firstword | grep secondword
[16:36] <oCean> bassliner: I'm not sure, but the other getty processes are started from /etc/init/ttyX - so maybe you can create your own for ttyS0 ?
[16:36] <knobydobs> @luc__ what happens when you double click it?
[16:36] <jstoone> xtcv: Sorry, how did i confuse you?
[16:37] <nishttal2>  I am trying to install Ubuntu on my macbook pro 4,1
[16:37] <nishttal2> and everything seems to be working but sound
[16:37] <bassliner> oCean: thanks!
[16:37] <nishttal2> can someone help?
[16:37] <w1n5ton> How do you remove Banshee from the sound applet in 11.04?
[16:37] <knobydobs> luc_ what happens when you double click it?
[16:38] <ThinkT510> knobydobs: using @ infront of a nick usually prevents it from highlighting that person
[16:38] <IdleOne> glebihan: trying apt-cache search xchat | grep irc and nothing returns.
[16:38] <luc_> do  u want to run nvidia -linuxfile   options are run in term ,display,cancel, run
[16:38] <knobydobs> thanks thinkt510
[16:38] <ThinkT510> np
[16:38] <AlessonZaire> Could anyone please recommend me a good chinese IME for 11.04? Thanks in advance
[16:38] <glebihan> IdleOne, apt-cache search xchat | grep -i irc
[16:38] <knobydobs> luc_ run in terminal
[16:39] <nishttal2> Macbook 4,1 + Ubuntu 10.10 = No Sound...
[16:39] <IdleOne> glebihan: thank you.
[16:39] <glebihan> IdleOne, that'll be case-insensitive, though I'm not sure why you would make such a search
[16:39] <nishttal2> someone please help!
[16:39] <luc_> knobydobs, nothing happens
[16:40] <IdleOne> glebihan: I used xchat and irc as a test because I know xchat exists as a package
[16:40] <knobydobs> luc_ not even a terminal window?
[16:40] <luc_> no
[16:40] <glebihan> IdleOne, ok :) I get it
[16:42] <nishttal2> Macbook 4,1 + Ubuntu 10.10 = No Sound...
[16:42] <nishttal2> someone please help!
[16:42] <knobydobs> luc_ have you enabled it to be run as program
[16:42] <nishttal2> am i in the wrong forum ?
[16:42] <Pici> !patience | nishttal2
[16:43] <Deathvalley122> has anyone ever messed with fail2ban before?
[16:43] <nishttal2> Pici, just making sure if there is different forum for Macbook + Ubuntu
[16:43] <knobydobs> nishttal2 system>administration>additional drivers
[16:43] <luc_> knobydobs, yes
[16:43] <oCean> IdleOne glebihan apt-cache search actually lets you search for multiple strings, so  apt-cache search xchat irc  would yield same result as with the grep usage
[16:44] <knobydobs> luc_ is it a .run file
[16:44] <glebihan> oCean, great, didn't know that. Thanks
[16:44] <IdleOne> oCean: ok so in that case my actual search is not yeilding results because there are none :)
[16:44] <nishttal2> knobydobs, that shows a list of 3 drivers (2 NVIDIa and 1 Broadcom STA wireless)
[16:44] <nishttal2> knobydobs, they are installed
[16:45] <knobydobs> luc_ do you know how to open a folder in terminal
[16:46] <knobydobs> nishttal2 i dont know what to say then - try a google search for macbook pro 4.1 ubuntu sound drivers
[16:46] <luc_> knobydobs, when i dragged it in to terminal it says error run file intended for the linux-x86_64platform but you appear to be running on linux-x86
[16:47] <nishttal2> knobydobs, thanks.. i have tried that
[16:47] <crankharder> anyone know what port ganglia runs on out of the box?
[16:47] <ThinkT510> nishttal2: can you run alsamixer in a terminal then show us the screenshot?
[16:47] <nishttal2> ThinkT510, sure
[16:48] <knobydobs> luc_ it seems you have got the wrong driver for your system look for an x86 driver
[16:48] <luc_> knobydobs, no to open folder in term
[16:49] <Jason2gs> Updated alsa yesterday from the ppa due to WINE not working properly with the sound. Now, if I run both a Flash program in Firefox and an application playing music, only the first one launched will play.
[16:50] <knobydobs> luc_ go up a level from the .run file then right click the folder containing the file. now click open in terminal
[16:50] <ThinkT510> !ppa | Jason2gs
[16:50] <elb0w`> Jason2gs: also you normally like listening to more than one song at a time?
[16:50] <nishttal2> ThinkT510, how do i share an image with you?
[16:50] <ThinkT510> !screenshot | nishttal2
[16:50] <luc_> knobydobs, got different driver now says error nvidia-installer must be run as root
[16:51] <Teh_Lemon> shutter is a nice program
[16:51] <Teh_Lemon> almost equivalent as lightshot on windowz
[16:51] <ActionParsnip> nishttal2: can you give the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && bash ./alsa-info.sh
[16:51] <nishttal2> ThinkT510, ActionParsnip : http://imagebin.org/171774
[16:52] <sburwood1> I have a problem with the update manager on an EEE PC.  It presents to me to update libnss and libnss-13d
[16:52] <knobydobs> luc_ now we are getting somewhere - try putting su as a command and then run the .run file
[16:52] <ThinkT510> nishttal2: good, that looks fine (nothing is muted)
[16:53] <thunarguy> How can I overclock ubuntu?
[16:53] <Myrtti> thunarguy: eh, what?
[16:53] <nishttal2> ActionParsnip, that command is uploading something
[16:53] <thunarguy> Myrtti: I would like to overclock my processor in Ubuntu
[16:53] <nishttal2> ActionParsnip, ThinkT510 http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=38740f96ce1cb5c005a4b5fb4128456643346fa2
[16:54] <knobydobs> thunarguy you do not overclock the os but the cpu
[16:54] <luc_> knobydobs, where at
[16:54] <thunarguy> How can I overclock my CPU in ubuntu?
[16:54] <jkoudys> ubuntu 11.04, networkmanager: setting up my GSM connection from WINDMobile. It's asking me if I have "mobile internet" or "mobile broadband", but nobody from wind (nor I) know the difference. Which should I choose?
[16:54] <jkoudys> I'm in Toronto if that helps
[16:54] <knobydobs> thunarguy you do it from the bios
[16:54] <thunarguy> knobydobs: Well is there a guide?
[16:54] <knobydobs> luc_ in terminal
[16:55] <thunarguy> knobydobs: ??
[16:55] <knobydobs> thunarguy yh 1 sec
[16:55] <mneptok> thunarguy: it's in the BIOS. the OS has nothing to do with it. thus, any guide will work.
[16:55] <thunarguy> is it safe?
[16:55] <h00k> thunarguy: It's definitely a hardware, not software, setting. It can also be a bad idea.
[16:56] <h00k> thunarguy: maybe check in ##hardware
[16:56] <luc_> knobydobs, not sure what u are askig
[16:56] <knobydobs> thunarguy http://www.overclockers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=263753
[16:57] <avinashhm> Hi friends, the sudo apt-get update is failing for me .. I logged it into - sudo apt-get update 1>log.txt 2>>log.txt .. and logs are in - http://paste.ubuntu.com/686020/ .. can someone pls help .. thanks ..
[16:57] <knobydobs> luc_ in terminal write su then press enter
[16:57] <ActionParsnip> nishttal2: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshootingProcedure   run the second block of code here
[16:58] <electronic> hello all...i installed tuquito an OS based on ubuntu but when i install nvidia drivers on it ,it says that driver is installed but isnt in use ?!
[16:58] <mneptok> knobydobs: uhhh ... that "su" is not gonna work
[16:58] <MonkeyDust> is maverick still supported?
[16:58] <luc_> says authentication failure
[16:58] <knobydobs> mneptok why?
[16:58] <mneptok> knobydobs: do you know what su does?
[16:59] <evgen> ээ хрю
[16:59] <knobydobs> mneptok puts you as root
[16:59] <ActionParsnip> nishttal2: after that, run:  alsamixer    and crank and unmute all channels
[16:59] <h00k> knobydobs: Ubuntu doesn't have a root password.
[16:59] <mneptok> knobydobs: are you aware that Ubuntu has no root password?
[16:59] <h00k> ubottu: root | knobydobs
[16:59] <nishttal2> ActionParsnip, ok trying now
[16:59] <knobydobs> mneptok i put in my sudo pass and it works fine
[16:59] <evgen> че по русски никто не пишет что ли бля
[17:00] <ActionParsnip> knobydobs: that ian't advised or supported here
[17:00] <ThinkT510> !ru | evgen
[17:00] <electronic> hello all...i installed tuquito an OS based on ubuntu but when i install nvidia drivers on it ,it says that driver is installed but isnt in use ?!
[17:00] <ActionParsnip> knobydobs: as in, setting the root pass. You can use: sudo -i   and get a root promt
[17:00] <electronic> hello all...i installed tuquito an OS based on ubuntu but when i install nvidia drivers on it ,it says that driver is installed but isnt in use ?!
[17:00] <luc_> knobydobs, it says authentication failure
[17:00] <electronic> hello all...i installed tuquito an OS based on ubuntu but when i install nvidia drivers on it ,it says that driver is installed but isnt in use ?!
[17:00] <knobydobs> i see i did something wrong
[17:00] <ActionParsnip> electronic: the it's not supported here, this is ubuntu support only
[17:01] <h00k> electronic: You're going to have to check with tuquito support.
[17:01] <ThinkT510> !derivatives | electronic
[17:01] <ActionParsnip> knobydobs: sudo su and sudo -i   are fine
[17:01] <knobydobs> luc_ sorry ignore what i said
[17:01] <mneptok> luc_: what are you trying to install?
[17:01] <electronic> ok than sorry for asking and thx for answer... :D
[17:01] <dvz> hey
[17:01] <knobydobs> ActionParsnip how do you run a .run file as sudo
[17:02] <luc_> mneptok, nvidia driver
[17:02] <mneptok> knobydobs: sudo /path/to/file.run
[17:02] <knobydobs> ok
[17:02] <mneptok> luc_: do you have a GUI now?
[17:02] <ActionParsnip> electronic: ask in #Tuquito on irc.debian.org
[17:02] <ActionParsnip> knobydobs: sudo ./filename
[17:02] <dvz> i have a question too, i will be happy if someone can help me out :( i installed Kubuntu (ubuntu with kde, you know), but my headphones aren't working... it was the same on ubuntu 11.04 too :( how can i fix this?
[17:02] <ActionParsnip> knobydobs: the file must be marked as executable
[17:02] <knobydobs> luc_ do what mneptok said
[17:03] <luc_> mneptok, not sure new to ubuntu
[17:03] <knobydobs> ActionParsnip it is
[17:03] <mneptok> luc_: do you have a graphical environment, or command line only?
[17:03] <faz_> knobydobs, is it a graphical program? if so use gksudo, unless you feel like grandly fucking yourself :)
[17:03] <Pici> faz_: Please mind your language here.
[17:04] <mneptok> knobydobs: nVidia drivers should not be installed from .run files on Ubuntu. they should be installed via the package manager
[17:04] <alazare619> ok i extracted a squash.fs and chrooted into it but i cant apt-get update or apt-get install anything any ideas?
[17:04] <luc_> mneptok, i file in downloads folder
[17:04] <mneptok> luc_: that's not what i asked
[17:04] <mneptok> luc_: do you have a graphical environment, or command line only?
[17:05] <knobydobs> mneptok ok i am trying to install ati drivers from amd website. luc_ on the other hand is installing nvidia
[17:05] <luc_> mne dont know what they are
[17:05] <mneptok> luc_: do you see icons? folders? or just text?
[17:05] <avinashhm> Hi friends, i am trying to install 'wine' on ubuntu 10.10 .. its failing with some wicked errors .. seems like not able to fetch data .. more logs @ http://paste.ubuntu.com/686030/ .. can some one pls help .. thanks
[17:05] <ActionParsnip> luc_: its that app I had you run...
[17:06] <luc_> mneptok, apaper with writing
[17:06] <knobydobs> luc_ do you have pretty bar at bottom/top of screen?
[17:06] <ThinkT510> luc_: are you able to click things or do you have to type stuff?
[17:06] <mang0> Am looking for a moniter calibration program, any ideas?
[17:06] <nishttal2> ActionParsnip, wow this is installing a whole bunch of stuff
[17:06] <mneptok> knobydobs: why not just install the fglrx package?
[17:07] <knobydobs> mneptok not working
[17:07] <mneptok> knobydobs: what Radeon core?
[17:07] <luc_> knobydobs, topbar with left side bar
[17:07] <knobydobs> mneptok radeon x600 (not the pro)
[17:07] <mneptok> knobydobs: C-50 or E-series APU?
[17:07] <alazare619> ok i extracted a squash.fs and chrooted into it but i cant apt-get update or apt-get install anything any ideas?
[17:08] <ActionParsnip> nishttal2: newer alsa may help
[17:08] <knobydobs> mneptok idk - how do i find out
[17:08] <ActionParsnip> alazare619: can you ping 8.8.8.8?
[17:08] <mneptok> knobydobs: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[17:08] <alazare619> whats the ping command in a chrooted enviorment
[17:08] <alazare619> is it just ping?
[17:09] <ActionParsnip> alazare619: yes
[17:09] <knobydobs> mneptok its not plugged in cos i cant get display if it is
[17:09] <alazare619> 1 sec i restarted the build process
[17:09] <erkid> hey boys how can i know my desktop architecture i mean if i have i386 or another ?!
[17:09] <mneptok> knobydobs: laptop? recent?
[17:09] <alazare619> im thinking for some reason when i chrooted in it didnt mount the etc/hosts and all
[17:09] <krisss117> hi, ater when i install KDE, i have bad codding
[17:09] <Abhinav1> hello, I am using dell 1525,  and cheese shows that no device detected.. although I have webcam with my laptop
[17:09] <knobydobs> mneptok desktop pci-e recent
[17:09] <krisss117> how i can change to UTF-8 on the all system?
[17:10] <erkid> hey boys how can i know my desktop architecture i mean if i have i386 or another ?!
[17:10] <Abhinav1> I am using ubuntu 11.04
[17:10] <nishttal2> ActionParsnip, still installing.. would i need a reboot once its installed ?
[17:10] <mneptok> knobydobs: OK, so not an APU, as AMD is mostly putting those in laptops.
[17:10] <erkid> hey boys how can i know my desktop architecture i mean if i have i386 or another ?!
[17:10] <erkid> any help ?!
[17:10] <ikonia> erkid: open a terminal and type "uname -m"
[17:10] <mneptok> !repeat > erkid
[17:10] <w30> erkid, type uname -a in a terminal
[17:10] <erkid> ok
[17:10] <erkid> thx
[17:11] <mneptok> knobydobs: did you try installing the fglrx packages from the package management system?
[17:11] <luc_> knobydobs, how do i run in root
[17:12] <knobydobs> mneptok how?
[17:12] <arnpro> how do I check if a php script is running?
[17:12] <arnpro> by bash
[17:12] <erkid> hellp is says Linux Matrix 2.6.38-11-generic #48-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jul 29 19:05:14 UTC 2011 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
[17:12] <alazare619> ActionParsnip, yes i can ping
[17:12] <erkid> what does this mean ?!
[17:12] <knobydobs> luc_ you cant
[17:12] <mneptok> knobydobs: because if you install that .run file, it is going to need manual reinstallation from a CLI every single time the kernel is updated.
[17:12] <ikonia> erkid: it means your running 32bit
[17:12] <ubuntu_> Linux Lex 11
[17:12] <erkid> and about archtecture ?!
[17:12] <ikonia> ubuntu_: ?
[17:13] <yeats> erkid: i686/i386 means 32 bit
[17:13] <ikonia> erkid: x86
[17:13] <knobydobs> mneptok ahh the run file ran
[17:13] <luc_> knobydobs, so how can i install the driver
[17:13] <ubuntu_> 32 bit
[17:13] <alazare619> the x in 86 is a variable is means it can be 386 486 0r 686
[17:13] <ubuntu_> un stabile
[17:13] <mneptok> knobydobs: yup. and now, every time you get a kernel update, the GUI will utterly fail until you download and install that .run file again.
[17:13] <erkid> this means i can install also distros with 1686 archtecture ?!
[17:13] <ikonia> ubuntu_: do you have a question ?
[17:13] <ikonia> erkid: yes
[17:13] <knobydobs> sudo /home/username here/downloads/filename here.run
[17:13] <nishttal2> ActionParsnip, ok its asking a reboot.. i'll be right back
[17:13] <erkid> OMG really thanks
[17:14] <alazare619> if you have a pentium 2 or greater 32bit processor you support 686
[17:14] <erkid> i have pentium 4
[17:14] <alazare619> then you support 686
[17:14] <erkid> ok right
[17:14] <knobydobs> luc_ sudo /home/username here/downloads/filename here.run
[17:14] <alazare619> the diffrence between 486 and 686 is mx and se processing
[17:14] <mneptok> alazare619: actually, Pentium Pro or newer :)
[17:15] <alazare619> but older pentium pro's didnt have those abilities or k6 processors  didnt support mx or se so they are 486 32bit processors
[17:15] <erkid> one more question why when i install ubuntu 11.04 after i turn on my pc it stays 1 min in power saving mode and then it starts normally
[17:15] <knobydobs> mneptok the run file did not solve the problem - it crashed
[17:15] <alazare619> im corrected :P
[17:15] <erkid> i didnt had this issue with 10.10
[17:15] <knobydobs> mneptok I have screenshot
[17:16] <alazare619> wtf is up with this damn chrooted enviorment why cant i apt-get update...
[17:17] <luc_> knobydobs, command not found
[17:17] <erkid> ok bye all boys ...see ya
[17:17] <[THC]AcidRain> perl comes installed on ubuntu by default right? cause im getting an error in a script saying use command not found
[17:18] <mneptok> [THC]AcidRain: "which perl"
[17:18] <[THC]AcidRain> a perl that takes this: use warnings;
[17:18] <[THC]AcidRain> i guess my path location is wrong
[17:18] <mneptok> [THC]AcidRain: probably the perl script is calling a command that is not installed. not that perl itself is not installed.
[17:19] <knobydobs> luc_ i dont know then - ask someone else - im a semi-noob myself
[17:19] <RobinR> Hey guys! As I explained yesterday, too, I'm having trouble with GRUB. I mainly use Windows 7 but for some special issues, I prefer Ubuntu 10.10. The last months I've set Windows boot on automatic and if I needed Linux, I started it with the Ultimate Recovery CD. But I wanted to change that and installed GRUB2. Problem: Windows doesn't boot anymore. The Ultimate Recovery CD informed me that...
[17:19] <[THC]AcidRain> line 4: use: command not found. line 4: use warnings;
[17:19] <RobinR> ...the Windows system partition was set „hidden“ somehow. Allright, easy to change but it still does not boot (it reports error 0xc000000e - Info: The boot selection failed because a required device is inaccessible." Does anybody know how I may fix this issue?
[17:19] <mneptok> [THC]AcidRain: "which perl"
[17:19] <mneptok> (in a terminal)
[17:19] <avinashhm> Hi friends, i am trying to install 'wine' on ubuntu 10.10 .. its failing with some wicked errors .. seems like not able to fetch data .. more logs @ http://paste.ubuntu.com/686030/ .. can some one pls help .. thanks
[17:19] <[THC]AcidRain> oh nvm xD
[17:20] <alkafoo> RobinR: ##windows
[17:21] <mneptok> ben_stein: you are ban evading. please /join #ubuntu-ops
[17:21] <ThinkT510> avinashhm: you should sudo apt-get update before installing
[17:21] <mahii> hi
[17:21] <unomi> You know what I don't get? I press Alt+F2, get the Run Application widget, type the first few letters of the command that I want to run, see it in the list below, press down arrow a few times until the full name is showing in the text box - then for some reason I need to reach over to get my mouse to click 'Run' -- am I retarded or is the widget?
[17:22] <savid> I can't seem to apt-get update.  How do I fix this issue?  http://pastie.org/2509525
[17:22] <ThinkT510> avinashhm: but at first glance it seems there might be something wrong with the network
[17:22] <the_eye_> has anyone work as a freelancer ? expirieces ?
[17:22] <nmittal> ActionParsnip, i instlaled and rebooted.. but still no sound
[17:22] <xangua> !ot | the_eye_
[17:22] <unomi> even with the full name, pressing enter just closes the widget - Alt+r just closes the widget - clicking Run works wtf.
[17:22] <xangua> !eol | savid
[17:23] <the_eye_> ok
[17:23] <avinashhm> ThinkT510, you are correct buddy .. looks like small vim package is also not installing .. let me check the proxy and get back ..
[17:24] <unomi> Even if I tab around a few times to get the Run button highlighted, neither Space nor Enter will do anything but unhelpfully close the box
[17:25] <abbiya> hello..i am using onecelot and the latest upgrade removed the unity and only gnome 3 is there but its saying a msg it cant be loaded..what to do ?
[17:25] <nmittal> ActionParsnip, are you around?
[17:25] <ThinkT510> !11.10 | abbiya
[17:25] <savid> xangua, is there a way to install a package without doing the security updates?  I need to deploy a website and I don't have time to do an entire server upgrade :-P
[17:26] <unomi> You would think, somehow, that before starting to make fancy sidebars and going through the trouble of moving app menus around, they would have gone 'hey, you know what - would be really neat if you could run a command without using the mouse in that popup widget we gave a hotkey to
[17:26] <alazare619> Anyone have an idea why when i drop to a chroot i cant apt-get update or install software but  outside the chroot i can and why in the chroot i can ping tho...
[17:26] <knobydobs> luc_ sudo sh /home/username here/downloads/filename here.run will work#
[17:27] <alazare619> ps i dropped to chroot with chroot chroot not schroot
[17:27] <ThinkT510> unomi: unity is meant to be geared towards touchscreens (i don't like unity, i use xfce)
[17:27] <unomi> ThinkT510: I am using the 'gnome classic'
[17:27] <knobydobs> luc_ sorry sudo exec /home/username here/downloads/filename here.run will work#
[17:27] <unomi> I probably should be ranting in Gnome or something
[17:27] <abbiya> will ocelot drop the unity in future?
[17:28] <ThinkT510> unomi: i see, my mistake
[17:28] <xangua> savid: compile
[17:28] <ThinkT510> abbiya: no, unity is the default interface
[17:28] <xangua> abbiya: no
[17:28] <mahii> i want to play tv using tv tuner on ubuntu what should i do?
[17:28] <alkafoo> mneptok: my PM question has nothing to do with Ubuntu, but: mind if I PM?
[17:28] <unomi> ThinkT510: I am a longtime fan of BlackBox / FluxBox - and I really should just invest in setting it up on this machine
[17:29] <ThinkT510> !tv | mahii
[17:29] <avinashhm> ThinkT510, thanks buddy .. i think proxy had to be changed ... after changing this, i am able to installl .. thanks a lot ..
[17:29] <mahii> ubottu thankyou
[17:29] <ThinkT510> avinashhm: no worries :)
[17:30] <luc_> knobydobs, stillsays command not found
[17:30] <ThinkT510> luc_: what command are you running?
[17:30] <unomi> ThinkT510: but I'll admit that I am a sucker for wifi widgets and soft-toned app themes
[17:31] <unomi> ThinkT510: what are you using with xfce ?
[17:31] <ThinkT510> unomi: i prefer a nice simple conky myself
[17:32] <unomi> ThinkT510: for sure, but can you make that tell you which APs are around and do the handshakes?
[17:32] <mneptok> alkafoo: go ahead. but my time is limited.
[17:32] <knobydobs> luc_ try without sudo and substitute "username here" for your real username and filename here for the real filename
[17:32] <unomi> ThinkT510: not that I don't feel like a Bro when I fire up iw*
[17:32] <luc_> ThinkT510, sudo exec  /home/luc/downloads/nvidia-linux-x86-280.13.run
[17:32] <ThinkT510> unomi: i'm not a wizard at it but i can make it display the name of the ssid i'm connected to
[17:33] <unomi> ThinkT510: what does your discovery and authentication workflow look like?
[17:33] <ThinkT510> luc_: try this: cd /home/luc/Downloads/
[17:34] <ThinkT510> luc_: then chmod +x nvidia-linux-x86-280.13.run
[17:34] <ThinkT510> luc_: then sudo ./nvidia-linux-x86-280.13.run
[17:35] <ThinkT510> unomi: sorry, not sure what you mean? you want a screenshot of my desktop?
[17:35] <ActionParsnip> nmittal: sup
[17:36] <ActionParsnip> nmittal: did alsamixer have all levels cranked and unmuted?
[17:36] <unomi> ThinkT510: No, I mean, lets say you take your laptop to a new place and you need to see which APs are around and authenticate to them - or just check signal strength to the current one
[17:36] <nmittal> ActionParsnip, yes.. i cranked up all the volume
[17:36] <visionofarun> Hi all, I did a dist upgrade to 11.10 beta (64 bit). I can't run Skype now. It says: skype: error while loading shared libraries: libXss.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[17:36] <ThinkT510> unomi: i just use networkmanager
[17:37] <iceroot> visionofarun: #ubuntu+1
[17:37] <knobydobs> i have tryed https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/FglrxInteferesWithRadeonDriver#Problem:__Need_to_fully_remove_-fglrx_and_reinstall_-ati_from_scratch but it is not making any difference is there something i should be doing differently
[17:37] <ActionParsnip> !mac
[17:37] <visionofarun> iceroot: thanks
[17:37] <ThinkT510> unomi: but i rarely ever use my laptop out of the home
[17:37] <nmittal> ActionParsnip, lemme show you a snapshot of alsamixer
[17:37] <luc_> ThinkT510, no command found
[17:38] <ThinkT510> luc_: for which one?
[17:38] <unomi> ThinkT510: ok, your laptop autoconnects to your home AP?
[17:38] <ThinkT510> unomi: yes
[17:38] <unomi> ThinkT510: how / where did you configure that?
[17:38] <luc_> ThinkT510, is the a way to burn file to cd and autorun it
[17:39] <luc_> ThinkT510, all
[17:39] <nmittal> ActionParsnip, http://imagebin.org/171784
[17:39] <ThinkT510> unomi: under network preferences in the network manager applet
[17:39] <ThinkT510> unomi: rightclick it and select edit connections
[17:40] <ThinkT510> luc_: so you can't cd to the directory?
[17:40] <luc_> ThinkT510, no
[17:40] <ThinkT510> luc_: what does it say?
[17:41] <baron_> Hi, i need help changing from kde to gnome on kubuntu 10.10
[17:41] <xangua> baron_: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[17:41] <luc_> ThinkT510, says no such file or directory
[17:41] <mahii> my data card is not working
[17:42] <ThinkT510> luc_: what about cd /home/luc/
[17:42] <knobydobs> should sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg do anything
[17:42] <unomi> ThinkT510: ok, we are getting somewhere, what are you using to have panels in xfce and is that something that I could use on fluxbox you think?
[17:42] <mahii> my usb modem not working what should i do
[17:42] <nmittal> ActionParsnip, you still around?
[17:42] <luist> how can i enable pageup and pagedown to scroll over last used commands in ubuntu?
[17:42] <baron_> xangua:What are the drawbacks of this will the gnome environment be perfect
[17:43] <ubuntu-es> waht is the chat in spanish?
[17:43] <ThinkT510> unomi: why not go the whole hog and install xfce if you are going to use xfce panels
[17:43] <xangua> baron_: I don't know what you consider perfect
[17:43] <xangua> !es | ubuntu-es
[17:44] <urlin2u> mahii, what is the model of the usb modem?
[17:44] <baron_> xangua: will it be like a fresh installation of ubuntu
[17:44] <_cb> Playing around with ldap on Ubuntu Server 11. Want to start over but sudo apt-get remove slapd ldap-utils  does not see to erase everything. How can I start from scratch without removing openldap?
[17:44] <xangua> !lubuntu
[17:44] <xangua> unomi: i read also that you preffer blackbox, lxde uses blackbox and it is a full desktop
[17:45] <silverarrow> anyone using libre office?
[17:45] <baron_> kubuntu is so troublesome, the only way I finally got internet on it was because of androids tethering function
[17:45] <knobydobs> silverarrow yep
[17:45] <unomi> ThinkT510: can you remove all window dressing with a hotkey in XFCE?
[17:46] <luc_> ThinkT510, any other way to install it
[17:46] <ThinkT510> unomi: window dressing?
[17:46] <unomi> ThinkT510: menus, borders etc
[17:46] <silverarrow> I am looking for spell check for Norwegian in package mangager, and I cannot find it. knobydobs do you have more than for English?
[17:46] <knobydobs> silverarrow no
[17:46] <knobydobs> silverarrow sorry
[17:46] <ThinkT510> unomi: not sure, but you can use an alternative window manager (instead of xfwm4)
[17:46] <xangua> silverarrow: install all languages you want from Language settins
[17:47] <silverarrow> knobydobs,  there lots of languages listed, but not Norwegian for some reason,
[17:47] <silverarrow> xangua, thanks, from libre office settings?
[17:47] <unomi> xangua: thanks that does look quite nice
[17:48] <xangua> silverarrow: no, from your system settings
[17:48] <ThinkT510> xangua: i thought lxde uses openbox
[17:49] <silverarrow> xangua, would that be the same for lubuntu too?
[17:49] <unomi> ThinkT510: yes, looks like it does
[17:49] <dvz> hey could anyone help me :/
[17:49] <unomi> well, I'm not a hater - the boxes are Bros
[17:50] <silverarrow> xangua, I do have gnome language support, but I'm not shore what it is
[17:50] <xangua> ThinkT510: really¿ :P sorry
[17:50] <ThinkT510> xangua: no worries :)
[17:51] <urlin2u> silverarrow, on the libreoffice site there is none shown you might see if a openoffice one will work.
[17:51] <silverarrow> urlin2u, so there aren't any, I might go back to open office then
[17:51] <dvz> anyone solved the problem with no working headphones on ubuntu 11.04?
[17:51] <unomi> as long as I can remove window ornaments and -OMG HAVE AN APP MENU AT A RIGHT CLICK- I would be delighted
[17:52] <unomi> anyway - thanks for bearing with me for my rant
[17:52] <silverarrow> urlin2u, odd, because there are loads of language packs for libreoffice, perhaps they are adding more gradually
[17:52] <urlin2u> silverarrow, here is the OO link you might try this first. http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Dictionaries#Norwegian_.28Norway.29
[17:52] <Gunz4MiPPle> im reading that latest NVIDIA drivers on the nvidia website for my mx440 now support xorg 1.10, is this in the repos
[17:53] <rabbi1> how to reset audio in ubuntu ?
[17:53] <rabbi1> audio driver....
[17:53] <Dreamer3> ok, is there one specific option to turn on zsh's autocomplete?
[17:53] <silverarrow> rabbi1, terminal alsa mixer?
[17:54] <luc_> ThinkT510, how can i run a different vid card driver then
[17:54] <rabbi1> silverarrow: guess so, coz its used by my chat app, browser and rhythmbox, so got to reset
[17:54] <ThinkT510> luc_: have you tried installing the one it offers when you first boot?
[17:54] <Phase> I'm using Lubuntu 11.04 (lxde/openbox) with pulseaudio and pavucontrol, is there an easy way to lower the volume of just the Firefox application running? Firefox doesn't show up in the pavucontrol dialog.
[17:54] <silverarrow> urlin2u, thanks I am on to it :- )
[17:55] <ThinkT510> luc_: it should be under the menu as restriced drivers (or something similar)
[17:55] <rabbi1> silverarrow: yeah, alsa mixer
[17:55] <luc_> ThinkT510, it says it is installed  but no sound
[17:56] <ThinkT510> luc_: sound? i thought you were trying to install a graphics driver?
[17:56] <xangua> Phase: because firefox is not a player, you want to mute plugins like flash or mplayer
[17:56] <silverarrow> rabbi1, alsa mixer has worked for me, when audio was very bad, noisy, and when stuff was muted for no apparent reason
[17:56] <luc_> ThinkT510, no sound doesnt work
[17:57] <rabbi1> silverarrow: ok. what do i got to do now ?
[17:57] <Phase> xangua: Hmm, alright, ty
[17:57] <ThinkT510> luc_: then why for the past hour have you been trying to install the newest nvidia driver?
[17:57] <luc_> ThinkT510, how can i see what driver are installed
[17:58] <ThinkT510> luc_: i hope someone else can help you
[17:58] <luc_> ThinkT510, yes it wasnt the right driver i ad before
[17:58] <jeblad> How to reassign Nautilus as prefered ftp client, anyone with a pointer? It seems like it stopped working avfter one or several browser updates, whereafter Opera was assigned the role as ftp-client.
[17:58] <silverarrow> rabbi1, what is the issue? I don't know if there are any actual default setting option
[18:00] <luc_> ThinkT510, i had a generic driver installed before
[18:00] <rabbi1> silverarrow: i am using chat app, browser (movie), and rhythmbox, - sometimes works well. say i am watching a movie in browser, and in the mean time a user logsout from my chat client, a sound pops up, that time the browser stops the audio.
[18:01] <rabbi1> silverarrow: if my music player works and i start watching movie in browser, the audio doesn't come in browser, even though i stop my music player
[18:01] <rabbi1> :(
[18:01] <silverarrow> rabbi1, I see, a bit advance issue, but should be handled
[18:01] <jeblad>  Removing Opera only moved the problem, and now Firefox is set as FTP-client. It doesn't seems like any of the old tricks works, or rather I can't get it to work.
[18:02] <silverarrow> rabbi1, pidgin, xchat?
[18:02] <thunsucker> jeblad, what are you trying to do?
[18:02] <rabbi1> silverarrow: pidgin
[18:03] <jeblad> I want to use Nautilus as default FTP-client
[18:03] <jeblad> Somehow it stopped working
[18:03] <silverarrow> rabbi1, I haven't tried any addons, or plugins yet, I have pidgin too
[18:03] <ActionParsnip> jeblad: http://superuser.com/questions/72738/open-ftp-links-with-nautilus
[18:04] <jeblad> Whe n I define a new site it works, but when I click on any previously defined site using ftp-protocol it goes to a browser
[18:04] <rabbi1> nothing to do with addon, or plugin i guess. see for e.g. now i am watching a movie in browser, and if the movie stops or if i have to listen to music from rhythmbox, i am unable to, because the audio is taken over by browser. I got to close the browser and then music player works
[18:04] <silverarrow> rabbi1, maybe alsa mixer will have no effect on the issue, maybe the guys in the #pidgin channel might know about it
[18:04] <luc_> ThinkT510, the driver is activated but notcurrently in use
[18:05] <rabbi1> silverarrow: not pidgin problem, its on the priority. its with which app is accessing alsa
[18:05] <rabbi1> for that moment
[18:05] <pedrocr> How do I boot from a RAID1 root using the install media? The server install just failed to install grub and I need to boot my newly installed machine
[18:05] <rabbi1> now if i close browser then the music player works well
[18:06] <silverarrow> rabbi1, oh I see, I thought there might be some issue with addons, in pidgin there are loptions for showing all kinds of stuff in chat client
[18:06] <thunsucker> jeblad, sec i might have it
[18:06] <bullgard4> "You have searched for files named jitsi in suite natty, all sections, and all architectures. Sorry, your search gave no results." Is it true that Ubuntu does not provide the Jitsi VoiP client?
[18:06] <rabbi1> silverarrow: it's not with the chat client only. any apps for that matter
[18:06] <ActionParsnip> rabbi1: select to mute sounds in pidgin
[18:06] <jeblad> ActionParsnip: The entry should be named ftp?
[18:06] <dvz> hey can anyone help me up with the headphones problem? i'm using 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03) and 01:00.1 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc RV710/730
[18:07] <jeblad> Its missing...
[18:07] <silverarrow> rabbi1, let me start alsa mxier
[18:07] <rabbi1> ActionParsnip: that's the pidgin issue. it works fine now.
[18:07] <thunsucker> jeblad, http://radu.cotescu.com/how-to-set-nautilus-as-default-ftp-application/
[18:07] <rabbi1> silverarrow: i would like to know how the priority is given to apps by alsa ?
[18:08] <rabbi1> ActionParsnip: that's not the pidgin issue **
[18:08] <Cyrax5> Is it possible to connect a pc to a wifi connection via a bluetooth adapter?
[18:08] <jeblad> thunsucker: I tried that one, didn't work..
[18:09] <thunsucker> jeblad, did you make the ftp folder and then place a %gconf.xml inside of it then reboot?
[18:09] <MonkeyDust> Cyrax5: wifi is not on the same frequency as bluetooth
[18:09] <iceroot> Cyrax5: no
[18:09] <Cyrax5> Dang. Thanks.
[18:10] <jeblad> thunsucker: Yes
[18:10] <rabbi1> say: play something in rhythmbox, then open a browser - watch movie. it doesn't play sound -> then stop rhythmbox, still browser won't play audio, -> now refresh the browser and play some movie, the audio is back on the browser. Can't I have both play to gether, or can't i make audio to be heard with out closing the previous apps ?
[18:10] <silverarrow> rabbi1, that was a tricky one,
[18:11] <nmittal> ActionParsnip, still no sound :(
[18:11] <thunsucker> jeblad, go back to the url I posted, and look for EFZ's comment
[18:11] <jeblad> Running gconf-editor as myself I find it, running as root I don't. Probably the correct behaviour.
[18:11] <Gunz4MiPPle> what does 'fix released' on Launchpad mean, for a bug
[18:11] <thunsucker> jeblad, sudo vi /etc/gnome/defaults.list
[18:12] <thunsucker> jeblad, add: x-scheme-handler/ftp=nautilus-folder-handler.desktop , no need to reboot
[18:12] <jeblad> Anyhow, the places menu still opens the ftp-locations in browsers
[18:12] <ThinkT510> thunsucker: i'd avoid recomending vi unless they are advanced
[18:12] <rabbi1> say: play something in rhythmbox, then open a browser - watch movie. it doesn't play sound -> then stop rhythmbox, still browser won't play audio, -> now refresh the browser and play some movie, the audio is back on the browser. Can't I have both play to gether, or can't i make audio to be heard with out closing the previous apps ?
[18:13] <thunsucker> jeblad, also sudo gedit ~/.local/share/applications/mimeapps.list
[18:13] <jeblad> Ok, I'll try that... I want to kill someone at Opera for fucking with my computer.. :(
[18:13] <thunsucker> jeblad, make sure this is updated: x-scheme-handler/ftp=nautilus;
[18:13] <xangua> !language | jeblad
[18:14] <ThinkT510> jeblad: gksudo gedit ~/.local/share/applications/mimeapps.list
[18:14] <thunsucker> ThinkT510, good thinking, i think typing "sudo vi" is hard programmed into me now lol
[18:14] <BiKER-JENS> some head up in which vpn software to install on my ubuntu server?
[18:14] <ThinkT510> thunsucker: no worries, i'm not that advanced myself (nano suit me best)
[18:14] <thunsucker> BiKER-JENS, you want to lean towards security or it being easy
[18:14] <jeblad> I want to be ablo to very politly and carefully stomp someone by elephants aat Opera
[18:14] <rabbi1> silverarrow: did you try that? r u ?
[18:14] <jeblad> Now, editing..
[18:15] <thunsucker> ThinkT510, vi makes me angry at times but it's an old friend now don't think I'll ever be able to change
[18:15] <BiKER-JENS> thunsucker,  have been buidling vpn on m$ platform for years, know the dirrent protocolss
[18:15] <BiKER-JENS> "just" need a good ubuntu ready vpn deamon
[18:16] <BiKER-JENS> and if it's easy to setup I would be nice also
[18:16] <rabbi1> guys, got an issue---------- say: play something in rhythmbox, then open a browser - watch movie. it doesn't play sound -> then stop rhythmbox, still browser won't play audio, -> now refresh the browser and play some movie, the audio is back on the browser. Can't I have both play to gether, or can't i make audio to be heard with out closing the previous apps ?
[18:16] <thunsucker> BiKER-JENS, okay so that answered my question, you need easy
[18:16] <BiKER-JENS> yeah :-)
[18:16] <thunsucker> BiKER-JENS, pptpd
[18:16] <bullgard4> "You have searched for files named jitsi in suite natty, all sections, and all architectures. Sorry, your search gave no results." Is it true that Ubuntu does not provide the Jitsi VoiP client?
[18:16] <ikonia> bullgard4: have you installed it ?
[18:17] <BiKER-JENS> okay thanks... thunsucker  I will try it :-)
[18:17] <ikonia> bullgard4: have you looked in the repos ?
[18:17] <BiKER-JENS> thought I was to use Hamachi or openvpn
[18:17] <thunsucker> BiKER-JENS, awesome :p and if you want something more advanced, openvpn :)
[18:17] <ThinkT510> !find jitsi | bullgard4
[18:17] <ThinkT510> bullgard4: seems so
[18:18] <rabbi1> is there a channel for alsa ? and rhythmbox ?
[18:18] <bullgard4> ThinkT510: Thank you very much for your help.
[18:18] <ThinkT510> bullgard4: no worries :)
[18:18] <BiKER-JENS> thunsucker think I will try openVPN then, have make sure it will run macX and windows
[18:19] <silverarrow> rabbi1, sorry, I seem to be not good with this. Have you asked any of the guys in #alsa channel? there might be someone clever with audio issues ?
[18:19] <BiKER-JENS> and they have a client for both platforms without I have to wirte 20 diffrents guides :D
[18:19] <BiKER-JENS> thanks
[18:19] <ThinkT510> bullgard4: http://jitsi.org/index.php/Main/DebianRepository
[18:19] <thunsucker> BiKER-JENS, good thinking :P
[18:19] <rabbi1> silverarrow: sure, will get there, and channel for rhythmbox ?
[18:20] <ThinkT510> bullgard4: that is from the ubuntu link in the downloads page on their site
[18:20] <jeblad> thunsucker: Ha! It worked! You will get cookies from me if you ever visits my websites, and that is for free!
[18:20] <whatever01> I have a question installing xubuntu 11.04 (graphical installation) using one SSD as / (root) and two HDDs for /home...any chance I can make a RAID 1 at the beginning during partioning?
[18:20] <BiKER-JENS> thunsucker, setting up linux based servers Is quitly more dif. as windows :D
[18:21] <BiKER-JENS> I'm MCITP windows server whore :D
[18:21] <BiKER-JENS> hehe
[18:21] <ikonia> whatever01: as in software raid ?
[18:21] <bullgard4> ThinkT510: Excellent! Thank you again for your help.
[18:21] <BiKER-JENS> sorry guys
[18:21] <thunsucker> jeblad, awesome!
[18:21] <whatever01> ikonia: yes
[18:21] <ThinkT510> bullgard4: np, hope it works for you
[18:21] <ikonia> whatever01: you'd need to use the alternative installer I believe
[18:21] <thunsucker> BiKER-JENS, they both have their ups and downs
[18:21] <whatever01> ikonia: I was afraid you would say that :)
[18:22] <thunsucker> BiKER-JENS, i work on windows servers all day long but run ubuntu on my home machine and work laptops and etc.
[18:22] <bullgard4> ThinkT510: It did in the past, but under an older Ubuntu version.
[18:22] <jeblad> thunsucker: I think it was due to a popupdialog in Opera and then I was stuck. There will probably be more people with the same problem.
[18:22] <thunsucker> BiKER-JENS, today my win7 laptop install died after visiting a public site lol
[18:22] <whatever01> ikonia: will try with the alternate one then, thanks
[18:22] <BiKER-JENS> haha
[18:23] <BiKER-JENS> I'm thinking about changing out all my gear tli Apple
[18:23] <BiKER-JENS> to*
[18:23] <thunsucker> BiKER-JENS, do you like to centrally manage your gear or have each be their own entity?
[18:23] <BiKER-JENS> central -)
[18:24] <thunsucker> BiKER-JENS, if you work on windows stuff, good luck changing subnets with a mac on a daily basis (moving from one vlan to another)
[18:24] <thunsucker> BiKER-JENS, your mac will not play nicely with release/renew
[18:24] <BiKER-JENS> hehe
[18:24] <thunsucker> BiKER-JENS, then once it renew's it's ip, it won't be able to route lol
[18:25] <BiKER-JENS> hehe nice
[18:25] <BiKER-JENS> less work ;)
[18:25] <thunsucker> lol
[18:25] <BiKER-JENS> dont like work
[18:25] <silverarrow> rabbi1,  I found a rhythmbox irc cannel on server: irc.gnome.org
[18:25] <BiKER-JENS> more fun less work :D
[18:25] <rabbi1> silverarrow: i am checking out :) thank you for the info
[18:26] <rabbi1> silverarrow: how can i find channels on different server ?
[18:26] <jeblad> Another annoying thing; If you have two Nautiluswindows open and window B has a modal dialog (typically asking for a password) and you try to scroll window A, then the scroll-handle will disapear when you point on it. Its like it says "hey, you want to click on me? catch me if you can!"
[18:28] <silverarrow> rabbi1, in pidgin you go to "manage accounts" then "add" then  "irc" then fill in irc.gnome.org.
[18:29] <filePeter> What’s the overall diskusage for a normal ubuntu desktop system? (every thing in /)
[18:29] <filePeter> but /home seperately…
[18:30] <whatever01> filePeter: I would count in about 10 GByte at least
[18:30] <rabbi1> silverarrow: sorry, i am aware of that, but how will i know Channel A is in Server B, coz i might only search in Server A which i already have... is there any way so that i can search for a particular channel in many server at once ? or should i add all the server to my client and then check ?
[18:30] <edorissen> #vim
[18:30] <whatever01> filePeter: if you are lucky its a bit less, but more likely more
[18:30] <ThinkT510> filePeter: 4-6gb, i usually give a 10gb partition
[18:31] <silverarrow> rabbi1, hmm, good question, I am in xchat lol, wait I shall login in pidgin
[18:31] <whatever01> ThinkT510: I thought that was about two or three versions ago...I got the feeling it started to bloat up a little
[18:32] <ThinkT510> whatever01: i tend to use xubuntu, so it might be smaller than ubuntu
[18:32] <filePeter> whatever01, ThinkT510: Great, that’ll be just fine to fit next to this 35GiG (!!!!) Win7 install on a thinkpad for my client…
[18:33] <whatever01> ThinkT510: yes, xubuntu uses less, so you are surely right...but he asked ubuntu (gnome) so that is why I was surprised by your number
[18:33] <ThinkT510> filePeter: thinkpads are indeed a good choice (but hey, i'm biased)
[18:33] <BluesKaj> bbl...need to takre a nap
[18:33] <whatever01> ThinkT510 and filePeter: I second that :)...just ordered my x220 ;)
[18:34] <filePeter> ThinkT510: Haha, yeah… But gosh, 35GiG is just HUGE on this ssd of 80GiG…
[18:34] <filePeter> ThinkT510: Can I delete this recovery partition without any problems? It annoys me…
[18:35] <mneptok> filePeter: you can reduce that 35GB by disabling restore points and deleting them
[18:35] <ThinkT510> filePeter: if you know you are never going to use it, then yeah
[18:35] <rabbi1> silverarrow1: i see you left all the rooms :)
[18:36] <ThinkT510> filePeter: if you have a windows install disk then it's fine
[18:36] <Richiie_> Hello im having trouble whit a bash script
[18:36] <Richiie_> hello
[18:36] <filePeter> ThinkT510: Don’t have that… But Windows is not going to be used either… (hoping…)
[18:36] <whatever01> filePeter: isnt there a way to backup that recovery partition?
[18:36] <filePeter> mneptok: Wow, great. Thanks!
[18:36] <Richiie> hello im having trouble whit a bash script i wanna code,
[18:37] <silverarrow1> rabbi1: you figured it out? if you choose "buddies" then "join chat" then you should be able to choose server from a shroll type listing, and then either fill in "channel" or "list channels"
[18:37] <filePeter> Richiie: #bash
[18:37] <filePeter> whatever01: Certainly… But win is not going to be used, so no worries…
[18:37] <whatever01> filePeter: in this case...indeed, no worries
[18:37] <silverarrow1> rabbi1:  yes pidgin now :- )
[18:38] <Richiie> im doing a mysqldump bash script, and all i wanna do is cat file.sql | tr "," "\n" > file.txt
[18:38] <Richiie> how can i do that ? in a bash script i dont know how to implement it
[18:38] <whatever01> filePeter: I am just thinking in terms of support...sometimes supports wants to have the original OS on itt
[18:38] <Richiie> i know i can use sed also but how do i implement this ?
[18:38] <filePeter> whatever01: What if I just kill the restore points, like mneptok suggested?
[18:39] <ThinkT510> Richiie: you may get a better answer in #bash
[18:39] <rabbi1> silverarrow1: i guess i am unable to put it across properly, :) i know how to add a server and add a channel for that server after searching, but how will i know that channel A is available in server A and not in B..
[18:39] <pedrocr> It seems the natty install is defaulting to creating GPT instead of MBR partition tables and grub doesn't like it. Is there a way to force the server install to create an MBR partition table?
[18:39] <whatever01> filePeter: well, I do not know...it might be an alternative...
[18:41] <filePeter> whatever01: Anyhow… Thank you… I just kill that damn thing… ;-p
[18:41] <silverarrow1> rabbi1, I am a bit slow today. I'm not shore really, for example all the channels in the ubuntu server seems to be redirected to freenode when loggin on.  However for gerneral irc server/channels lists I use google, seems to be the quickest
[18:42] <Richiie> ThinkT510: Okay thanks.
[18:42] <whatever01> filePeter: good luck :)
[18:42] <rww> silverarrow1: irc.ubuntu.com is just a pointer to chat.freenode.net. There is no separate Ubuntu IRC server.
[18:42] <rabbi1> silverarrow1: that's the only option left for quick search, and you are lucky if you get it... ;)
[18:42] <filePeter> whatever01: Hehe, thx… ;-p
[18:43] <silverarrow1> rww:  I see, that would explain it
[18:44] <executionist> idk how I am online when ubuntu does not recognize my lan card, can I make it recognize the lan card?
[18:45] <silverarrow1> rabbi1: yes a bit of luck seems to be needed. The sites that list channels, are often way to cumbersome to maneuver
[18:46] <rabbi1> google can come with channel and server list options. this will help developers a lot
[18:46] <Pici> !ot
[18:48] <ScatterBrain> Ok, so I basically need to disable avahi-daemon because it's playing havoc with my company's intranet.  Whats it gonna hurt if I simply 'aptitude remove avahi-daemon'?
[18:49] <executionist> how can I make ubuntu recognize my network adaptor
[18:50] <anadon> Hey, how do I use dd to move a .iso to a usb drive?
[18:51] <rDx3> when a script is run by inid.d at startup does the process executes as a root user?
[18:52] <silverarrow1> executionist: have you tried  in terminal:  nm-list   ?
[18:52] <glebihan> ScatterBrain, a lot of packages depend on avahi-daemon, so this is likely to break your system
[18:52] <ThinkT510> !upstart | rDx3
[18:52] <executionist> silverarrow1,  command not found
[18:52] <sandking> hey
[18:53] <sandking> anyone can recommend some g+ app for ubuntu?
[18:53] <silverarrow1> executionist:   not found? it should list something
[18:53] <executionist> it says 'command not found'
[18:54] <ScatterBrain> glebihan: But I don't understand it's purpose, other than making FQDN like 'server.foo.local' not respond.
[18:54] <silverarrow1> executionist: sorry, command : nm-tool
[18:54] <silverarrow1> executionist: my error
[18:54] <ScatterBrain> glebihan: there's a lot of things in our network that rely on the '.local' suffix.
[18:54] <Pici> sandking: there are none.  There is no g+ api yet.
[18:54] <anadon> Hey, how do I use dd to move a .iso to a usb drive?
[18:55] <executionist> i see the device there, eth0
[18:55] <glebihan> ScatterBrain, honestly, I don't know much about avahi-daemon and what it does, but looking at packages depending on it, I would really not recommend trying to remove it
[18:55] <sandking> Pici, thx for answer
[18:55] <executionist> silverarrow1, I see a device there eth0, idk why wireshark tells me there are no network interface's
[18:56] <ScatterBrain> glebihan: I stopped when I saw the dependancies too.  :)
[18:56] <silverarrow1> executionist:  there is a trouble shooting guide on this page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessTroubleShootingGuide     I'm not that good with terminal really
[18:56] <rDx3> ubottu: ok so I have to rewrite it or the scripts that are in the init.d dir still work?
[18:56] <rDx3> :)
[18:56] <rDx3> ok sorry
[18:57] <executionist> silverarrow1, will see if I find something useful there
[18:57] <glebihan> rDx3, scripts in /etc/init.d are still handled by upstart
[18:57] <silverarrow1> executionist:  I can try, do you get any info on your card ? Ubuntu is usually very good with detecting wireless cards
[18:58] <rDx3> gelbihan: ok thanks
[18:58] <executionist> silverarrow1, its not a wireless card, its wired. Broadcom netextreme 57xx
[18:58] <urlin2u> !broadcom
[18:58] <glebihan> rDx3, and to answer your initial question, init scripts are run as root (though some of them may launch daemons running as other useres)
[18:58] <rDx3> gelbihan: is there a way to find why a script thet works in terminal mode with the start command doesn't work at boot tinme?
[18:59] <rDx3> gelbihan: my script is just running thin
[18:59] <ScatterBrain> So can anyone else tell my how I can safely disable avahi-daemon?
[18:59] <glebihan> rDx3, so your script is in /etc/init.d
[18:59] <glebihan> ?
[19:00] <rDx3> glebihan: yes
[19:00] <silverarrow1> executionist: what does this give?   ifconfig -a | grep eth
[19:00] <glebihan> rDx3, did you create the necessary links in /etc/rc*.d ?
[19:00] <^Mike\b> I have a removable disk that gets mounted automatically at /media/$label when I attach it. I want it to be mounted elsewhere instead, and I want any user to be able to (un)mount it. What do I need to put in /etc/fstab to make that happen?
[19:00] <rDx3> gelbihan: you mean /usr/sbin/update-rc.d -f thin defaults?
[19:00] <silverarrow1> very clever urlin2u ;- )
[19:01] <executionist> silverarrow1,  eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:11:43:ac:ed:2a
[19:01] <rDx3> the thin install should create the sl
[19:01] <silverarrow1> executionist: hmm, not completely identified
[19:01] <photon> hi. is there a way to just download the .deb files (instead of installing the package) with apt-get? I want to transfer a couple of programs via DVD to a computer that does not have an internet connection.
[19:02] <rDx3> gelbihan: followed this http://articles.slicehost.com/2008/5/6/ubuntu-hardy-thin-web-server-for-ruby
[19:02] <executionist> silverarrow1, yeah, thats the problem :/
[19:02] <Phoenix87> re
[19:02] <coraxx> photon: yes you can
[19:02] <glebihan> rDx3, yes though you shouldn't have to use the -f option (it's only needed to remove the links)
[19:03] <^Mike\b> Phoenix87: Yes, use the -d option (--download-only)
[19:03] <^Mike\b> photon, rather, sorry
[19:03] <rDx3> gelbihan: really? let me try… it would great to solve this !
[19:03] <silverarrow1> executionist: try lspci -vvnn | grep 14e4
[19:03] <glebihan> rDx3, did you check that the symlinks were created ?
[19:03] <ThinkT510> !aptoncd | photon
[19:03] <coraxx> photon: just make sure the arch (architecture of the package match your system ...i386 for 32-bit ...and amd64 for 64-bit) ...and remember to look up dependencies...you might need to transfer additional packages with your DVD
[19:03] <rDx3> gelbihan: how can I check?
[19:03] <executionist> silverarrow1,  02:00.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme BCM5751 Gigabit Ethernet PCI Express [14e4:1677] (rev 01)
[19:04] <photon> coraxx, ThinkT510, ^Mike\b thanks
[19:04] <glebihan> rDx3, browse to /etc/rc2.d for example and check if there's a S20thin file in there
[19:05] <^Mike\b> I have a removable disk that gets mounted automatically at /media/$label when I attach it. I want it to be mounted elsewhere instead, and I want any user to be able to (un)mount it. I thought the mount options noauto,user would be sufficient in fstab, but apparently not. How can I accomplish this?
[19:06] <silverarrow1> executionist: a bit better
[19:06] <rDx3> gelbihan: in etc rc I have many rc1.d to rc6.d
[19:07] <rDx3> gelbihan: will open all of them...
[19:07] <silverarrow1> I found a list of driver supported here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[19:08] <rDx3> gelbihan: all empty
[19:08] <rDx3> gelbihan: will try without the -f command
[19:08] <muffette> hi there
[19:09] <wildc4rd> evenin all
[19:09] <ScatterBrain> So can anyone else tell my how I can safely disable avahi-daemon?
[19:09] <glebihan> rDx3, yep try without that option then check again in the links are there
[19:09] <rDx3> gelbihan: tried and it says …  System start/stop links for /etc/init.d/thin already exist.
[19:09] <Globos_> hello
[19:09] <rDx3> gelbihan: will try to reboot to see anyway
[19:09] <glebihan> rDx3, ok let me know how it goes
[19:10] <Globos_> bye
[19:10] <mbeierl> Very interesting.  twice now, my home gateway ubuntu box has had an IRC bot installed on it.  does anyone know if there are any  vulnerabilities in Natty?
[19:10] <rDx3> gelbihan: I must say while I wait…thank you for the time you are spending with me
[19:10] <rDx3> gelbihan: I was going not to sleep this night on this
[19:10] <mbeierl> the first time, someone actually managed to install an ssh key in .ssh to allow passwordless access.
[19:11] <yeats> mbeierl: sounds like you need to lock down SSH
[19:12] <yeats> mbeierl: check /var/log/auth.log to see if anyone is ssh-ing in
[19:12] <mbeierl> yeats: but the question is... how are they getting in there.  Nope.  I can't see anything there.  This script put a cron entry in: */5 * * * * /var/tmp/.tmp/.Driver/driver.cron > /dev/null 2>&1
[19:13] <rDx3> gelbihan: nope … tried  netstat -antp to see if thin was listening...
[19:13] <yeats> mbeierl: I would check open ports and make sure your firewall is blocking what you need it to
[19:14] <PerfieM> OMG SOO COOOL
[19:14] <yeats> !info rkhunter | mbeierl
[19:14] <muffette> can someone help me with the grub going insane since 11.04 update plz? Tried something on the forum but didin't work
[19:15] <Jordan_U> !details | muffette
[19:15] <mbeierl> yeats: thanks.  The thing is, I've already done this once.  I don't get how they got back in...
[19:15] <muffette> I exactly have this one: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1729949
[19:15] <yeats> mbeierl: I would scour the logs for more info
[19:16] <PerfieM> rww: DONT WORRY, YOU WONT REGRET THIS. I SWEAR IT
[19:16] <muffette> but I tried what they did on the linked topic
[19:16] <rDx3> gelbihan: should I try something else?
[19:16] <muffette> and does not work:
[19:16]  * rww tunes PerfieM's caps lock key
[19:17] <muffette> when I write the command lines it says me the hard drive is already mount or busy
[19:17] <IdleOne> PerfieM: consider this a friendly warning, you only get one :)
[19:17] <McQueen> hi, i have got a problem... i couldnt remove mysql server on ubuntu. it s getting an error while trying to remove... it says: stopping mysql server and then its trying to start mysql server... then starting mysql server failed.  how can i remove it?
[19:17] <cordor> is there anyway to have grayscale X
[19:18] <PerfieM> IdleOne: I wouldnt consider anything you do "friendly", but whatever you say captain!
[19:18] <NFF_Hallway> server irc.firstfloor.org
[19:18] <rDx3> gelbihan: I was thinking … is there a way I can set an arbitrary variable in the script to see after boot if it exist… like echo it after terminal...
[19:18] <Jordan_U> muffette: That error means that the drive that your BIOS is booting from is not the drive that grub-install was most recently run against.
[19:18] <McQueen> any idea?
[19:19] <Jordan_U> !bootinfo | muffette
[19:19] <tave_> is there a program other than the beta skype I can use to connect to the skype network?
[19:20] <muffette> ok
[19:20] <ThinkT510> tave_: no, only skype connects to skype
[19:20] <glebihan> rDx3, I would create a log file, or just use touch to create a file and see if it exists after boot
[19:21] <rDx3> ok … I'll try it
[19:21] <muffette> why is there always a bug with grub when updating ubuntu ffs :(
[19:21] <tave_> sucks, their software suck on linux
[19:21] <glebihan> rDx3, sorry I took some time to answer but you're mispelling my nick so I didn't see your messages
[19:21] <coraxx> tave_: pidgin has a skype-plugin ... but is for messages only
[19:22] <xangua> coraxx: tave_ and it needs skype running...
[19:22] <PerfieM> How can I discuss bans if I'm BANNED from #ubuntu-ops?
[19:22] <rww> PerfieM: #ubuntu-irc-council
[19:22] <rDx3> glebihan:sorry…I write them every time…too many things for me
[19:23] <Jordan_U> muffette: Most likely because the grub-pc packages is not currently configured to install grub to the mbr of the drive your BIOS is booting from.
[19:23] <glebihan> rDx3, no problem
[19:23] <rww> PerfieM: or PM the op who banned you, I guess
[19:23] <kudu|sick> ktorrent = best?
[19:23] <Pici> !best | kudu|sick
[19:24] <Jordan_U> muffette: The output from boot info script, and from "debconf-show grub-pc", would be very helpful.
[19:24] <urlin2u> muffette, if your experiencing a bug at every grub update post the bootscript yo may have a setup that is improper, the script will give us a what is where.
[19:24] <urlin2u> you
[19:24] <muffette2> yes I'm working on it but internet very slow atm
[19:24] <mbeierl> yeats: this is not necessarily a rootkit, though.  It's just a script run as a user process that "hides" itself in a directory called "...".  Would rkhunter search for user-level bots/scripts?
[19:24] <PerfieM> rww: but no one speaks in there :(
[19:24] <tave_> how about wine, does that still exist in linux, and does it work with the windows binary?
[19:25] <redboat> n soeone help with this problem I am trying to install the drivers for the FTDI FT232RL chip...  fatal error: /lib/modules/2.6.38-8-generic-pae/build/include/linux/modversions.h
[19:25] <yeats> mbeierl: I would run it and see what it finds
[19:25] <ThinkT510> !appdb | tave_
[19:25] <muffette2> ok urlin2u
[19:25] <steve_> I have some things that update manager presents to be updated.  When I try to update them, the system tells me that it can't do it because of untrusted sources.  What am I doing wrong?  Opera, libnss3 and libnss-1d
[19:25] <redboat> Can someone help with this problem I am trying to install the drivers for the FTDI FT232RL chip...  fatal error: /lib/modules/2.6.38-8-generic-pae/build/include/linux/modversions.h
[19:26] <scoobaru> I'm having a problem with vim in Ubuntu 10.04. I uninstalled vim-tiny and then installed vim using apt-get. Now when I run vim it tries to load /usr/local/bin/vim which doesn't exist, instead of using the correct /usr/bin/vim.
[19:26] <scoobaru> How can I make the vim command point to /usr/bin/vim?
[19:26] <urlin2u> steve_, your missing the repo key it is 3rd party, that is whay.
[19:26] <urlin2u> why
[19:26] <steve_> urlin2u: Where do I get the repo key?
[19:27] <thunsucker> scoobaru, create a symbolic link for it
[19:27] <urlin2u> steve_, run the update in a terminal and pastebin the whole thing .
[19:27] <redboat> the error occurs when i issue the make command
[19:27] <steve_> urlin2u: Can you tell me in advance the pastebin location?
[19:28] <scoobaru> thunsucker, how do I do that?
[19:28] <ThinkT510> !paste | steve_
[19:28] <thunsucker> scoobaru, try: sudo ln -s /usr/bin/vim /usr/local/bin/vim
[19:28] <urlin2u> steve_, http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[19:28] <mbeierl> yeats: did.  it found nothing :(
[19:29] <thunsucker> scoobaru, if that didn't work, reverse the 2 locations
[19:30] <muffette2> I copy paste all the result.txt?
[19:30] <Jordan_U> muffette: NO.
[19:30] <yeats> mbeierl: ok, so I would just do my best to figure out *when* the files/scripts were created and try to correlate the create/edit times with logs
[19:30] <Jordan_U> !pastebin | muffette
[19:30] <scoobaru> Thanks thunsucker, that worked
[19:30] <thunsucker> scoobaru, awesome!
[19:30] <mikigirl> Hello how do you uninstall a program on Ubunto.
[19:31] <thunsucker> scoobaru, there is a proper way to fix it, i think somewehre you can set the default path for a command
[19:31] <yeats> mbeierl: do an nmap against your server to see which ports are open and adjust your firewall accordingly
[19:31] <thunsucker> mikigirl, Synaptic Package Manager
[19:31] <yeats> mbeierl: you could also disable password login with SSH and just use ssh keys (since you said that was a vulnerablity before)
[19:31] <mbeierl> yeats: already done.  nothing that should not be there
[19:32] <scoobaru> thunsucker, It's okay this is just an ubuntu vm I'm playing with. It was weird though because /usr/local/bin/vim did actually exist but when I tried to run it it said it didn't exist. I had to delete it and then create the symlink
[19:32] <muffette2> Jordan_U: pastebin ?
[19:32] <yeats> mbeierl: that's about all the advice *I* have - maybe someone else in the channel has some ideas
[19:32] <Tiktalik> How do I find a list of running programs?
[19:32] <thunsucker> scoobaru, might have been another bad symlink
[19:32] <scoobaru> Pretty stupid that Ubuntu doesn't include the full vim
[19:32] <mbeierl> yeats: no, it was an ssh key that was put in place by something that allowed the first bot to be installed.  I don't get how on earth an external key could have gotten onto my system
[19:32] <ThinkT510> Tiktalik: ps aux
[19:32] <urlin2u> muffette2, http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[19:33] <ianm_> can Wubi use a local ISO file?
[19:34] <urlin2u> ianm_, for what to install?
[19:34] <ianm_> yeah I'm going to someone's house to install ubuntu
[19:34] <redboat> Can someone help with this problem the error occurs when i issue the make command I am trying to install the drivers for the FTDI FT232RL chip...  fatal error: /lib/modules/2.6.38-8-generic-pae/build/include/linux/modversions.h
[19:35] <urlin2u> ianm_, burn a cd
[19:35] <muffette2> urlin2u:  and which syntax would you like I select?
[19:35] <ThinkT510> ianm_: showcase it in a vm rather than a wubi install
[19:36] <yvemath> Heya folks, i am having this problem while installing ubuntu natty from a .iso which is stored in a harddisk partition - There was a problem reading data from the CD-ROM, i am using vmlinuz and initrd.gz of a hd-media
[19:36] <urlin2u> muffett2, you paste the whole resutls text to the pastebin the post the url.
[19:36] <zulax> just installed server 10.04 and ifconfig only shows loopback
[19:36] <urlin2u> then
[19:36] <Jordan_U> yvemath: Are you using grub2 to try to loop boot the iso?
[19:36] <zulax> eventhoughg the ethernet is hooked up
[19:36] <yvemath> No Jordan, it is grub4dos ..
[19:37] <yvemath> or probably EasyBCD.
[19:37] <thunsucker> yvemath, why not boot it from usb?
[19:37] <yeats> zulax: does 'lscpi | grep -i net' show your card?
[19:37] <yvemath> thunsucker: because i dont know how to make the system boot the usb.
[19:37] <zulax> yeats yes, ehternet controller broadcom....
[19:37] <thunsucker> yvemath, what brand desktop or laptop?
[19:37] <yeats> zulax: ah broadcom
[19:37] <muffette2> wow ok, there: http://paste.ubuntu.com/686090/
[19:38] <zulax> sudo service networking start doesnt help either
[19:38] <yvemath> thunsucker: intex
[19:38] <nyuszika7h> !+spam
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[19:38] <thunsucker> yvemath, so it's an off brand and older than dirt?
[19:39] <zulax> does brodcom have problem on ubuntu server?
[19:39] <yvemath> thunsucker: not really too old. bought this year.
[19:39] <rDx3> glebihan: so the start is working
[19:39] <thunsucker> yvemath, when you turn it on there will be a prompt that says press " " for boot menu
[19:39] <zulax> i did eth0 up but it has no ip
[19:39] <thunsucker> yvemath, if it doesn't go into the bios and put the usb device as the first boot option
[19:40] <muffette2> btw in grub it says me I can boot on a Windows Vista I removed many years ago, and although a lot of format, it's still here :p
[19:40] <PsyFreeStyle> lol
[19:40] <PsyFreeStyle> hey
[19:40] <yvemath> thunsucker: lemme check in the bios...
[19:40] <muffette2> hi
[19:41] <thunsucker> yvemath, make sure the usb stick is plugged in, some bios won't show the option unless it's already plugged in
[19:41] <yvemath> thunsucker: how should i prepare the usb, though ?
[19:41] <thunsucker> yvemath, look into unetbootin
[19:41] <yvemath> thunsucker: i have used the unetbootin utility earlier
[19:41] <thunsucker> yvemath, runs on ubuntu and windows, great tool
[19:41] <Jordan_U> muffette2: Are you booted into your installed Ubuntu system right now?
[19:41] <muffette2> no i'm on the live cd
[19:43] <rDx3> glebihan: so the good news is that the startup script is called...
[19:43] <muffette2> if there's a way to delete line 367 to 374 I take :p
[19:43] <rDx3> glebihan: but the thin app still not working
[19:44] <muffette2> and the previous linux versions as well :/ I guess my grub is really dirty :/
[19:44] <glebihan> rDx3, is it an app you downloaded or something your wrote yourself ?
[19:44] <Jordan_U> muffette2: If you congigure grub-pc to install to both sda and sdb your problems should go away. Unfortunately I can't walk you through doing that as I need to leave now.
[19:44] <rDx3> no it's locomotive app…it's a little cms, working perfectly in terminal mode
[19:45] <muffette2> erf :(
[19:45] <futurum> hello, can someone help, I cant compile gnome shell because caribou does not want to compile
[19:45] <rDx3> glebihan: I mean…if I run thin start in terminal then the web app works
[19:46] <rDx3> glebihan: I followed simple instruction… the script is generated automatically…I didn't messed that but adding now the touch command
[19:46] <muffette2> http://www.kkoncepts.net/node/198 ?
[19:46] <glebihan> rDx3, then the best thing to do is probably to report the bug to the developers
[19:47] <rDx3> glebihan: do not think is a bug of the app...
[19:47] <muffette2> they, is there someone else to help me concerning grub plz? :'(
[19:47] <pajaazdaja78> hii peaples
[19:48] <Milossh> hello
[19:48] <Milossh> how can I connect to my ubuntu box(desktop), with laptop, over internet
[19:48] <zulax> restarting ubuntu 10.04 and ifconfig only gives lo
[19:48] <pajaazdaja78> hello Milos!
[19:48] <zulax> evenif ethernet is plugged in
[19:48] <zulax> has broadcom drivers
[19:49] <Milossh> hello Slave ;)
[19:49] <pajaazdaja78> Milos from where you are?
[19:49] <Milossh> Serbia
[19:49] <DaVampsWin> Milossh : you can use VNC, or TeamViewer for remote controling
[19:50] <yeats> zulax: try 'dmesg | grep -i eth' and see what it tells you
[19:50] <Milossh> DaVampsWin, I need only command line
[19:50] <glebihan> rDx3, well I don't really have an idea of what it could be if  it's not a bug in the app, and the project's team may be able to help you solve your issue if it's not a bug
[19:50] <nyuszika7h> !help | muffette2
[19:50] <rDx3> glebihan: http://paste.ubuntu.com/686096/
[19:50] <rDx3> glebihan: please take a look
[19:50] <DaVampsWin> Milossh : i would suggest (having done this on a server) tryin to use an OpenSSH
[19:51] <pajaazdaja78> what is http://paste.ubuntu.com/686096/
[19:51] <rDx3> pajaazdaja78: startup script thin
[19:51] <DaVampsWin> Milossh : make sure to open any ports in you firewall and/or router so you can connect
[19:51] <zulax> ifconfig -a shows eth0 also, but no ip
[19:52] <muffette2> I installed ubuntu 11.04 but I can't boot anymore because grub goes insane. Have this error: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1677888 and here is my boot script result: http://paste.ubuntu.com/686090/
[19:52] <pajaazdaja78> explore me please is this helpfull
[19:52] <muffette2> The solution in the natty post doesn't work
[19:52] <glebihan> rDx3, is the path to DAEMON something you manually set somehow or is it this value by default ?
[19:52] <zulax> service networking start has no effect also :(
[19:53] <rDx3> glebihan: it is created by the thin config
[19:53] <rDx3> glebihan: not manual…should I change thant?
[19:53] <bambanx> hello
[19:53] <Pici> zulax: Can you please ask your question on one line? I have no idea what you're asking.
[19:53] <pajaazdaja78> can anyone expllane me what with clone yilla
[19:54] <zulax> pici i dont get ethernet connection on my server
[19:54] <glebihan> rDx3, well I'm really not sure, that path looks weird... and might be on a partition that's not even mounted when the script is run (which would explain why it doesn't work)
[19:54] <redboat> Can someone help with this problem the error occurs when i issue the make command I am trying to install the drivers for the FTDI FT232RL chip...  fatal error: /lib/modules/2.6.38-8-generic-pae/build/include/linux/modversions.h
[19:54] <rDx3> glebihan: I think it's the ruby version manager gem set. The path exists
[19:55] <yeats> zulax: did you try dmesg as I suggested?
[19:55] <pajaazdaja78> i m tested this boot rescue cd for back up,but is little stupied-file per file :(
[19:55] <zulax> yeats i did lspci and it shows broadcom
[19:55] <rDx3> glebihan: does the /usr/local/ is something protected dir for daemons?
[19:56] <glebihan> rDx3, no
[19:56] <zulax> dmesg | grep net show eth0 PHY is 5750....
[19:56] <pajaazdaja78> cao
[19:56] <pajaazdaja78> off
[19:56] <glebihan> rDx3, could you try replacing the "touch  /home/lostartfunziona.txt" line by "file $DAEMON > /home/lostartfunziona.txt"
[19:57] <rDx3> glebihan: ok
[19:57] <jcmarini> any support for itunes in Ubuntu 10.04 lucid linx
[19:58] <yeats> !itunes | jcmarini
[19:58] <yeats> jcmarini: you might try running it in wine, too
[20:00] <jcmarini>  ubottu i am trying to configure the ipod to load my music any ideas
[20:00] <jcmarini> but you are
[20:01] <jcmarini> any how to on configure ipod to load my music in lucid lynx
[20:02] <yeats> !ipod | jcmarini
[20:02] <muffette2> I installed ubuntu 11.04 but I can't boot anymore because grub goes insane. Have this error: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1677888 and here is my boot script result: http://paste.ubuntu.com/686090/ The solution in the link in the post doesn't work
[20:02] <fr0ggie> ive got an application built on arch-- it uses a pci device that i'd need direct access to. I want to setup an easier to maintain system for a desktop and host this arch appliance in a vm. what's a good distro for hosting kvm/xen and a decent desktop? ubuntu server + kde?
[20:03] <mbeierl> aha.  found another bunch of cruft in tmp: /tmp/.oracle/oracle with content like "Welcome to iroffer 1.4.b03, by PMG (released December 12th 2005)"
[20:03] <prakas> fr0ggie: kubuntu
[20:04] <DaVampsWin> anyone know if the x64 OS of Ubuntu is like a x64 Win and requires more RAM to run smoothly?
[20:04] <rDx3> glebihan: ok done
[20:04] <jcmarini> thanks again ubottu and ubuntu community gold stars all round ciao i am gone
[20:05] <spec_> can i ask a basic makefile question here? i keep getting redirected to channels where everyone is asleep
[20:05] <rDx3> glebihan: in the file now there is this text
[20:05] <Tiktalik> just-testing-thi: looks like your name is a letter long. :P
[20:05] <prakas> jcmarini: ubottu is a bot ;)
[20:05] <rDx3> glebihan: /usr/local/rvm/gems/ruby-1.9.2-p290@rails30/bin/thin: a /usr/local/rvm/rubies/ruby-1.9. script text executable
[20:05] <jcmarini> bots are great
[20:05] <muffette2> I'm gonna die :(
[20:05] <muffette2> boots too :/
[20:05] <prakas> lol
[20:05] <soreau> ! ask | spec_
[20:05] <glebihan> rDx3, ok then I have no clue what the problem could be, sorry
[20:05] <jcmarini> chuckle
[20:06] <wildbat> muffette2, you can fix it with reinstall the grub
[20:06] <rDx3> glebihan: thanks anyway I think we progressed anyway...
[20:06] <prakas> muffette2: did you upgrade from 10.10 and are you dual booting
[20:06] <spec_> http://www.friendpaste.com/4Y1TNkU4VMDOm8kjAk7js5  I'm passing BITS=32 or BITS=64 from the command line make.. but the conditional stuff on line 13 isn't running.
[20:06] <spec_> those paths aren't being set
[20:06] <FloodBot1> spec_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:07] <spec_> wtf is up with floodbot
[20:07] <McQueen> hi mysql server crashed...  its far server... i decided to restart ubuntu. i afraid for cant connect to server by ssh if it gets error on restarting.... i must i do? restart or not?
[20:07] <glebihan> rDx3, you're welcome, I would still recommend filing a bug report or asking a question on a forum if there's any for that app
[20:07] <DaVampsWin> does the 64 bit ubuntu desktop require more RAM then the 32 bit Ubuntu like Windows?
[20:08] <fr0ggie> prakas: kubuntu does kvm? Does it support nvidia fakeraid in installer? had hell with that
[20:09] <^Mike\b> McQueen: You almost certainly do not need to restart the operating system. Have you diagnosed the problem mysql had that caused it to crash? Have you tried to restart mysqld?
[20:10] <McQueen> ^Mike\b, yeah... i couldnt stop, remove, reinstall mysql server...
[20:10] <prakas> fr0ggie: i just told you that kubuntu is based on kde so you dont need to install kde. no idea if it works, i er mean the kvm
[20:10] <^Mike\b> McQueen: okay... what?! O_o Why do you need to remove or reinstall mysql server? I thought it crashed and now you want to restart it.
[20:10] <yeats> !kvm | fr0ggie
[20:10] <muffette2> I'm unable to boot since 11.04, grub goes insane. have 'grub_env_export' instead of boot menu. no solution works. Here my script boot: http://paste.ubuntu.com/686090/
[20:12] <McQueen> ^Mike\b, somethings went wrong when i tried to install iredmail... then i couldnt stop, start, remove or reinstall mysql server...
[20:12] <muffette2> if you have idea for me quote muffette, it's me on another pc, I try something :(
[20:12] <yvemath> After booting from the usb, i got this error - mounting /dev/loop0 on //filesystem.squashfs failed : Invalid argument , Can not mount /dev/loop0 (/cdrom/casper/filesystem.squashfs) on /filesystem.squashfs
[20:12] <ksx4system> is it possible to download somewhere source package of non-stable Ubuntu's Linux kernel?
[20:12] <yvemath> What could be the problem ?
[20:12] <McQueen> ^Mike\b, do you have an idea?
[20:13] <^Mike\b> McQueen: okay, show me what happens when you try to restart mysqld.
[20:13] <McQueen> ^Mike\b,
[20:13] <McQueen> ^Mike\b,  just a minute...
[20:13] <McQueen> ^Mike\b, Stopping MySQL database server: mysqld.
[20:14] <McQueen> ^Mike\b, Stopping MySQL database server: mysqld.
[20:14] <^Mike\b> McQueen: put it in a pastebin please
[20:14] <McQueen> ok
[20:14] <^Mike\b> McQueen: http://p.defau.lt
[20:15] <McQueen> ^Mike\b, http://p.defau.lt/?3MIiH3v2_gFqox78O_Ux3A
[20:16] <^Mike\b> McQueen: okay, now show me your mysql error logs
[20:16] <yvemath> After booting from the usb, i got this error - mounting /dev/loop0 on //filesystem.squashfs failed : Invalid argument , Can not mount /dev/loop0 (/cdrom/casper/filesystem.squashfs) on /filesystem.squashfs
[20:16] <McQueen> ^Mike\b, i am newbie... where can find it?
[20:16] <zastaph> when downloading ubuntu it says 32-bit is recommended.. even on 64 bit systems?
[20:17] <^Mike\b> McQueen: Also, you probably can't start mysqld as any user other than root or mysql. Try `sudo service mysql restart`
[20:17] <lion42> zastaph, it's recommended if you don't know what you have, since it'll work on either. But if you know you have 64, go ahead and download that.
[20:17] <^Mike\b> McQueen: /var/log/mysql/error.log
[20:17] <Polah> zastaph: 32-bit is just recommended since it will work on 32- or 64-bit platforms, whereas the 64-bit will not work on a 32-bit platform.
[20:18] <zastaph> lion42 im going to run it in virtualbox, as desktop OS .. and probably wont dedicate more than 4GB to it.. which do you think will perform better?
[20:18] <zastaph> I have VT-x
[20:18] <McQueen> ^Mike\b, i am root
[20:18] <lion42> zastaph, I have no idea, sorry.
[20:18] <^Mike\b> McQueen: Okay, I misread it then. Carry on :)
[20:18] <zastaph> I just ran a preinstalled VM (Ubuntu 32 bit) and it ran about 4 times faster (fps wise) than Debian
[20:19] <glebihan> zastaph, on a virtualbox, unless you really need 64bits, I'd recommend 32
[20:19] <zastaph> glebihan, because it performs better or?
[20:19] <McQueen> ^Mike\b, thanks
[20:19] <McQueen> ^Mike\b, i have to change my place...
[20:20] <McQueen> ^Mike\b, BRB
[20:20] <glebihan> zastaph, performance doesn't differ much, but there might be some issues with 64bits support on a VM
[20:20] <Polah> zastaph: If you're on a 64-bit system and your host is 64-bit, I'd got for a 64-bit guest. There's some performance benefits from 64-bit although there may be some incompatibilities with 32-bit programs, although they're not all that common as far as I'm aware.
[20:20] <zastaph> cam you 2 duke it out and tell me the results? :)
[20:22] <yeats> zastaph: I've had no issues running either 32 or 64 bit virtualbox VMs on a 64-bit guest - I think the takeway would be "try it and see" ;-)
[20:22] <zastaph> yeats, did you try debian in virtualbox? i was amazed how sluggish it runs compared to Ubuntu which I just ran
[20:22] <Edwin__> Q: I try to connect airport express to ubuntu 11.04. In manager i see 2 sinks for 1 airport express. When i select a sink a play music, the music will not play, it keep trying the first second. Anybody a idea??
[20:22] <subsonic> I don't have access to the GUI, is there a way I can set up VNC (remote desktop) via command line?
[20:23] <DaVampsWin> i agree with yeats. its more of a trial and error and flavor thing as to which runs more effectively
[20:25] <dgfger> my lolbuntu system with xfce de is slow to yhe brink of
[20:25] <glebihan> zastaph, to be honest, each time somebody comes in here asking whether he should choose 32bits or 64, there is about a 50/50 repartition on opinions... with usually not many arguments either way, so I'll go along with the latest advices and say : try it and see :)
[20:25] <dgfger> unusability, trouibleshoot?
[20:25] <DaVampsWin> yeats : do you have a prefered processor type (intel/amd) you use for ubuntu?
[20:25] <soreau> dgfger: Why not use ubuntu?
[20:26] <lion42> glebihan, here's how to resolve the debate for 99% of users: if you don't have a high-end computer, you probably wont notice if you use 32 either way. the end.
[20:26] <zastaph> fine, ill trial and error myself :)
[20:27] <glebihan> lion42, agreed
[20:27] <DaVampsWin> zastaph : remember there are no 2 computers that run the exact same. 11.04 32 or 64 will run differently on each machine.
[20:27] <yvemath> which image should i use, to install ubuntu via hdd via grub4dos or easybcd, Netboot or hdmedia or cdrom .. should i try the alternate installation???
[20:27] <dgfger> not funny
[20:28] <prakas> if anyone has less than 4gb ram then 32bit is just fine
[20:29] <yvemath> hrmm, anyone wanna sort me out ...
[20:29] <Fire^fox> booting oneiric 11.10 caused a dbus error, does someone have the same problem ?
[20:30] <hobbel> Anyone knows how to connect to a VPN when you are forced to use a proxy? (educational)
[20:32] <dgfger> it just sits there doing nothing but even keyboard lags
[20:32] <ThinkT510> !11.10 | Fire^fox
[20:33] <yeats> DaVampsWin: AMD typically
[20:34] <dgfger> why?
[20:34] <subsonic> ANybody know how I can launch teamviewer from commandline?
[20:34] <yeats> zastaph: haven't tried debian in vbox in a while
[20:38] <lindenle> has anyone else noticed that telepathy-logger eats up all your memory and binds up the ide bus if you leave IRC channels open all night
[20:38] <lindenle> what the hell
[20:38] <zenrox> what client?
[20:38] <harpal> I have some .desktop files for menu. So I did symlink of .desktop file folder to /usr/share/applications/samples folder, But still its not displaying
[20:38] <lindenle> zenrox: empathy
[20:39] <zenrox> lindenle, try using xchat see if that fixes it
[20:39] <harpal> Does menu dont following symlink under /usr/share/applications folder?
[20:39] <zenrox> if your gona leave a irc channel open all night its time to use a decated client like xchat lindenle
[20:39] <lindenle> zenrox: ok
[20:41] <lindenle> What is the best command line client
[20:41] <hobbel> someone can help me on how to bypass a HTTP proxy? Its enforced by the educational webs.. even update doesnt work!
[20:41] <hobbel> I have a vpn..
[20:41] <lindenle> if I am going to ditch empathy I might as well get rid of the hui too
[20:41] <W3ird_N3rd> lindenle, to do what?
[20:41] <lindenle> dedicated irc client
[20:42] <W3ird_N3rd> telnet
[20:42] <W3ird_N3rd> seriously don't know
[20:42] <Logan_> lindenle: irssi
[20:42] <lindenle> W3ird_N3rd: irssi
[20:42] <lindenle> Logan_: thx just found it
[20:42] <Logan_> np
[20:42] <W3ird_N3rd> oh yeah, I've heard of that before :) now I remember
[20:47] <TAndriamirado> Police, Milice! (sorry.. I'm listening Trust) ;-)
[20:48] <dgfger> i reniced damnet xorg to -10 it's still s...l...o...w
[20:50] <dgfger> hobel, update work via http
[20:51] <ubun> how do i upgrade(or) update my graphics driver (ATI radeon rv370 x300) ????? please help. (im trying to play Starcraft 2  and i found a suggestion that said update it
[20:51] <ar0nic> ubun a few different ways
[20:52] <ar0nic> go to restricted drivers
[20:52] <ar0nic> and search for it there
[20:52] <ar0nic> what drivers are you using atm?
[20:52] <CheBuzz> In earlier version of Ubuntu, you could suspend the computer from the commandline using the "pmi" tool.  Now that seems to have been removed from the repos.  Is there a way to suspend a computer from the commandline in the latest Ubuntu?
[20:52] <ubun> ar0nic: idk.  whatever it suggested when i installed the os.??? how do i find out
[20:52] <root_____> ok
[20:52] <rww> CheBuzz: see man pm-suspend
[20:53] <ar0nic> im not in ubuntu at the moment
[20:53] <ar0nic> udner pref i think
[20:53] <forti> hi
[20:53] <dgfger> ubun, you cannot
[20:54] <ubun> dgfger? cant update?
[20:54] <CheBuzz> rww: That's what I was looking for.  Thank you.
[20:54] <dgfger> could someone troubleshoot why my sytem is ecxeptionally laggy?
[20:54] <mister_bubbles> hi guys
[20:55] <mister_bubbles> ps aux | grep mysql says it is not running, yet when i try to start it, it claims it's already running
[20:55] <Serverfel> dgfger: installed somthing new lately?
[20:55] <mister_bubbles> somebody suggested pidfiles
[20:55] <mister_bubbles> how can i check for that?
[20:55] <dgfger> ubun your adapter is too old for divine radeon, and gallium driver is c...
[20:55] <photon> mister_bubbles: there's also #mysql
[20:56] <dgfger> Serverfel, "something new"?
[20:56] <root_____> xil
[20:56] <mister_bubbles> photon: they sent me here
[20:56] <ubun> dgfger: well this sucks...
[20:56] <TAndriamirado> dgfger: it could depend of so many parameters.. 1st thing to do is to check your runing daemons
[20:56] <Serverfel> dgfger: no you said that your system was laggy.... All of a sudden-like....
[20:57] <photon> mister_bubbles: there might be pid files in /var/run/
[20:58] <RyanP> I have several bin/cue images of audio CDs. What's the best way to convert the tracks to flac?
[20:58] <dgfger> i wouldn't beurprised if ubuntu just gets slower with each uptome minute
[20:59] <dgfger> i'm not running servers, its plain xfce system
[21:00] <Serverfel> dgfger: what hardware do you have?
[21:00] <indwic> dgfger: check running proccess
[21:00] <mister_bubbles> photon: there are no pid files for mysql there
[21:01] <mister_bubbles> there is an empty mysqld dir
[21:01] <photon> mister_bubbles: hm, sorry, I'm out of ideas then. delete it and see what happens?
[21:01] <dgfger> you mean top? which numbers i should look at there?
[21:01] <Serverfel> dgfger: i know my questions seem stupid, but i have many computers at home and they all react differently to ubuntu. =)
[21:02] <Prolac> hello, does anyone knows how can I detach from screen inside another screen?
[21:02] <Serverfel> Microsoft is not the root of all evil. Apple is. They are the new enemy.
[21:02] <Serverfel> PERIOD
[21:02] <dgfger> it is good hardwaree, but  suingle core and 392 mb ram
[21:02] <mister_bubbles> i like apples products though
[21:03] <mister_bubbles> i never liked MSs products
[21:03] <Serverfel> Yeah, if you jailbreak them maybe
[21:03] <indwic> dgfger: the one consume lot cpu/memory
[21:04] <dgfger> there are Xorg and xchat taking 30% time each
[21:04] <indwic> mister_bubbles: mysqld.sock
[21:05] <dgfger> xchat takes 50% cpu to be precise
[21:06] <mister_bubbles> indwic: where is mysqld.sock?
[21:06] <indwic> mister_bubbles: /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock
[21:07] <mister_bubbles> no, /var/run/mysqld is compeltely empty
[21:07] <dgfger> is it normal for linux have 0% cpu iddle?
[21:08] <McQueen> Hello, any idea? http://p.defau.lt/?9RVeu5YyyNFz5TXbwkxtSA
[21:08] <mister_bubbles> my syslog says this over and over:
[21:08] <mister_bubbles> Sep  9 13:27:11 ip-10-114-95-171 init: mysql main process (3868) terminated with status 1
[21:08] <mister_bubbles> Sep  9 13:27:11 ip-10-114-95-171 init: mysql main process ended, respawning
[21:08] <mister_bubbles> Sep  9 13:27:42 ip-10-114-95-171 init: mysql post-start process (3869) terminated with status 1
[21:08] <mister_bubbles> Sep  9 13:27:42 ip-10-114-95-171 kernel: [ 5639.260880] type=1505 audit(1315600062.078:62):  operation="profile_replace" pid=3934 name="/usr/sbin/mysqld"
[21:08] <FloodBot1> mister_bubbles: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:09] <sulumar> #ubuntu-be
[21:10] <TAndriamirado> dgfger: I suspect a problem with some libraries (gtk? glibc?). Are your packages up to date?
[21:11] <dgfger> it must be
[21:11] <indwic> mister_bubbles: try service mysql stop
[21:12] <TAndriamirado>  dgfger: ...or maybe do you use some backports or extra repositories which installed some conflicting verions of such basic libraies?
[21:12] <lindenle> hi guys in xchat can I make all the servers and channels I had open re-open when I restart by default?
[21:13] <dgfger> no its only ubuntu officcial repos connected
[21:13] <indwic> dgfger: i think your xchat take too much
[21:14] <Serverfel> dgfger: i found somthing called and Auto nice deamon in the repos.... Maybe this is somthing to check out?
[21:14] <mister_bubbles> service mysql stop
[21:14] <mister_bubbles> stop: Rejected send message, 1 matched rules; type="method_call", sender=":1.17" (uid=1000 pid=5635 comm="stop) interface="com.ubuntu.Upstart0_6.Job" member="Stop" error name="(unset)" requested_reply=0 destination="com.ubuntu.Upstart" (uid=0 pid=1 comm="/sbin/init"))
[21:14] <FloodBot1> mister_bubbles: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:15] <Serverfel> quote "The auto nice daemon activates itself in certain intervals and renices jobs according to their priority and CPU usage. Jobs owned by root are left alone. Jobs are never increased in their priority."
[21:15] <Serverfel> Has somebody else tried this?
[21:16] <indwic> mister_bubbles: with sudo
[21:17] <dgfger> try reboot first
[21:18] <indwic> dgfger:  or problem with X driver
[21:18] <Serverfel> indwic: think the guy left
[21:18] <indwic> Serverfel:  ops
[21:19] <mister_bubbles> sudo service mysql stop
[21:19] <mister_bubbles> mysql stop/waiting
[21:19] <Serverfel> Its funny, Linux is not just a free OS, its carried by people who really love helping others. Its so nice to see. this thread sometimes. How much energy perople put in to helping others just for the kick of it.
[21:19] <Serverfel> A commercial support can never evolve into this.
[21:20] <about_blank> hi guys! anyone can help me indentifying this conputer ? http://codebits.eu/static/2011/quiz1/fd34f86cd32faaa444695206347eb806.jpg
[21:20] <mister_bubbles> sorry to pop your bubble, but there's SO much wrong with linux..
[21:20] <indwic> mister_bubbles: now try to start mysql
[21:21] <Serverfel> of course there is. But rome wasńt built in one day. And nothing will ever be perfect. Except for Megan Fox.
[21:21] <mister_bubbles> sudo service mysql start
[21:21] <mister_bubbles> and now it just hangs
[21:21] <mister_bubbles> for a minute now
[21:21] <indwic> Serverfel: agree
[21:21] <thunsucker> Serverfel, megan fox is not perfect, seen her thumb dude?
[21:22] <mister_bubbles> lol i know her thumb!!
[21:22] <mister_bubbles> that ruins the whole movie
[21:22] <mister_bubbles> funny that somebody else would notice
[21:22] <joshua__> nope, she is not perfect. she is stupid!
[21:22] <mister_bubbles> (service mysql start is still hanging)
[21:22] <Serverfel> thunsucker: maybe i like ugly thumbs? No seriously. She can wear stockings.. =)
[21:23] <thunsucker> i was j/k about the thumb
[21:23] <Serverfel> Well, compared to you guys she might be, but on the other hand, i havent met so many ladies that i think are smart.
[21:24] <indwic> i run it not too long
[21:24] <Serverfel> and im not sexist. Its just what i think. Maybe were to different.
[21:24] <mister_bubbles> still running/hanging :(
[21:25] <indwic> check log
[21:27] <indwic> mister_bubbles: is there /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock file?
[21:27] <mister_bubbles> no
[21:28] <mister_bubbles> in the syslog it says the same thing as before (i pasted it)
[21:28] <indwic> just stop it, ctl+c then
[21:28] <mister_bubbles> btw i just restarted - same thing
[21:28] <joshua__> @about_blank: google thinks it is a logitech k350 wireless keybord :D
[21:29] <indwic> try ask #ubuntu-server
[21:29] <mister_bubbles> ok
[21:29] <mister_bubbles> thx
[21:29] <thunsucker> mister_bubbles, whats wrong?
[21:29] <thunsucker> mister_bubbles, mysql troubles?
[21:30] <mister_bubbles> yea can't start it
[21:30] <mister_bubbles> see backlog
[21:30] <thunsucker> i see that now
[21:30] <thunsucker> try this
[21:30] <thunsucker> well
[21:30] <thunsucker> how did you install it?
[21:30] <FloodBot1> thunsucker: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:30] <thunsucker> !punch | FloodBot1
[21:31] <mister_bubbles> i didn't
[21:31] <mister_bubbles> it was running perfectly, then suddenly stopped
[21:31] <mister_bubbles> disk was full i think
[21:31] <thunsucker> okay fair enough
[21:31] <mister_bubbles> so i quit mysqld
[21:31] <thunsucker> is the disk been cleared now?
[21:31] <mister_bubbles> with kill <pid>
[21:31] <mister_bubbles> yea
[21:31] <mister_bubbles> there's 2gig now
[21:31] <FloodBot1> mister_bubbles: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:32] <thunsucker> try this
[21:32] <mister_bubbles> but i can't start mysqld back up
[21:32] <thunsucker> check message, flood is annozying
[21:32] <mister_bubbles> what message?
[21:32] <mister_bubbles> ah
[21:32] <ikonia> guys, stop putting two words on a line and pressing enter, the problem will go away
[21:33] <thunsucker> two wrods
[21:33] <thunsucker> ikonia, sorry couldn't resist
[21:35] <r3m> is it normal there is no openssh-server package with ubuntu alternate
[21:35] <ikonia> r3m: do you mean installed by default ?
[21:35] <thunsucker> r3m, openssh-server is not installed by default
[21:35] <r3m> nothing with apt-cache search openssh-server
[21:35] <thunsucker> r3m, do an update then do: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[21:36] <ikonia> r3m: the repos for the alternative install is the same as normal, so it's there
[21:37] <thunsucker> r3m, do this first, sudo apt-get update
[21:42] <drehdz> what channel is for 11.10b1?
[21:42] <rww> drehdz: #ubuntu+1
[21:45] <savid> I'm trying to do an EOL upgrade from Jaunty to Karmic, and am following this documentation:   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades/Jaunty .    I'm  trying to do "sudo do-release-upgrade",  however it says command not found.  Any ideas?
[21:46] <thunsucker> savid, did you update your /etc/apt/sources.list with the appropriate deb's?
[21:46] <jrib> savid: also, what does « ls /usr/bin/do-release-upgrade » return?
[21:46] <savid> thunsucker, yes,  I changed the file to what the doc said
[21:47] <thunsucker> savid, did you do "sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude safe-upgrade"
[21:47] <Eidel> How do i mount volumes in the terminal just like Nautilus does it?
[21:47] <savid> yep
[21:47] <jrib> Eidel: probably using udisks
[21:47] <savid> I'll run it again
[21:47] <jrib> Eidel: or gvfs-mount :/
[21:47] <savid> nope, still not found
[21:47] <Polah> savid: Are you running a server? You require at least update-manager-core to use do-release-upgrade
[21:48] <jrib> savid: also, what does « ls /usr/bin/do-release-upgrade » return?
[21:48] <savid> Polah, yes, running a server
[21:48] <Eidel> jrib: thx!
[21:48] <thunsucker> savid, okay another question, why are you going to karmic?
[21:48] <thunsucker> savid, start off with a fresh natty install ;)
[21:48] <Polah> savid: Install update-manager-core and retry
[21:49] <savid> thunsucker,  that's out of the question right now for a server.  I don't want to have to migrate all these websites over
[21:49] <r3m> ikonia: thunsucker, thanks you were right
[21:49] <afeder_> I am trying to compile network-manager-applet, but it depends on 'NetworkManager >= 0.9.1'. Where can I get this package when the most recent version in main repositories is 0.9.0?
[21:50] <jrib> afeder_: why are you compiling it?
[21:50] <afeder_> jrib, i am fixing a bug in it
[21:50] <savid> Polah, thanks, that was it.   Although, now I'm getting this:  http://pastie.org/2510715
[21:51] <jrib> afeder_: you are editing the code yourself?
[21:51] <afeder_> jrib, yes
[21:53] <jrib> afeder_: what bug?
[21:53] <afeder_> jrib, this one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-applet/+bug/826260
[21:53] <jrib> h/url 1
[21:55] <Polah> savid: Might be because you're using a non-LTS release and you're trying to jump straight to Lucid, skipping 9.10. You might have to change your settings to go to 9.10 and then 10.04, then set it back to LTS-only
[21:55] <jrib> afeder_: you probably need to build network manager too.  Why don't you just fix it in the version that's in your ubuntu.  Has the relevant file changed in the new version?
[21:55] <savid> Polah, I'm  just following this:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades/Jaunty
[21:56] <afeder_> jrib, hmm probably not. that might work.
[21:56] <savid> Which is from 9.04 to 9.10.     How do I change settings to go to 9.10?
[21:57] <jrib> afeder_: yeah I would just check if the file changed and if not, just patch that version.  Then you can test in a vm your fix with the latest version and pass on the patch upstream
[21:57] <afeder_> rigt
[21:57] <afeder_> right*
[21:57] <jrib> afeder_: also check the upstream tracker for the bug (I didn't notice one linked on launchpad)
[21:57] <Phoenix87> bye
[21:58] <afeder_> jrib, i'll try, thanks.
[21:58] <rojanu> what is the beta channel?
[21:58] <jrib> !oneiric | rojanu
[21:58] <new2net> new certificates update?
[22:00] <j0nr> hi, how can I install ATI drivers on server edition please? This is for a laptop running server edition that will also run XBMC
[22:00] <ikonia> why are you running the server platform on a laptop ?
[22:04] <Roasted> with gnome shell in 11.04 how do I move the buttons tot he left?
[22:04] <ikonia> you don't as it's not a supported software package
[22:04] <Roasted> I did it on my desktop
[22:04] <Roasted> just can't remember what I did to do it on the laptop
[22:04] <ikonia> gnome shell is from a PPA - that is supported by the PPA owner/maintainer
[22:04] <Roasted> right
[22:04] <crash1hd> Ok so onlogin I switched from ubuntu to ubuntu classic and now when I switch to ubuntu it does not load the new fisher price style os? how to get it to work again (I wanted to play with it for a bit)
[22:05] <Roasted> I just wanted to ask quick and see if anybody knew since I know there's a ton of G3 users out there on 11.04
[22:05] <ikonia> Roasted: contact the PPA maintainer for any help with that software,
[22:05] <kawaiicats> http://www.near-reality.com/forums/guides/69560-how-get-near-reality-working-linux-ubuntu.html can someone help me follow this guide please?
[22:05] <Roasted> oh, right. or I could ask here and probably get it fixed in a matter of 30 seconds?
[22:05] <kawaiicats> i dont know how to CD :/
[22:06] <Roasted> think I just found it...
[22:06] <ikonia> Roasted: you need to take up issue with the software and it's configuration with the maintainer, please.
[22:06] <Jikan> crash1hd: you sure you didn't uninstall unity* packages ?
[22:06] <Roasted> ikonia, it's not an issue. I know it's possible because I've done it. As I said, I just wanted to ask here quick and see if any other ubuntu users ran into it as well. I'm having a hard time understanding the issue here.
[22:06] <Jikan> does it at least load anything or just nothing ?
[22:07] <crash1hd> Jikan, nope didnt uninstall as I am activating the cloud stuff now
[22:07] <Roasted> but I just found it. thanks anyway.
[22:07] <ikonia> Roasted: the issue is this channel supports/discusses supported ubuntu software, the software you talk about is not supported and is from an unsupported PPA, which is supported by the people who maintain that, so ask them in future.
[22:07] <Roasted> http://geekum.wordpress.com/2011/05/25/how-to-move-close-button-in-debian-gnome-shell-to-left-like-ubuntu/
[22:07] <Roasted> for those curious
[22:07] <Roasted> ikonia, lol. okay.
[22:07] <ikonia> Roasted: please don't be so rude as to post links to it when I've just explained we don't deal with unsupported packages in here
[22:08] <crash1hd> Jikan, or at least I dont think I did, is there a way to check?
[22:08] <Roasted> ikonia, as I said, it's not a big deal. but it is indeed a done deal. I got it fixed. thanks anyway.
[22:09] <Jikan> crash1hd: aptitude search unity
[22:09] <brokemyubuntu> hello
[22:09] <thunsucker> brokemyubuntu, love your name lol
[22:09] <Jikan> every line starting with a "i" means installed package
[22:11] <brokemyubuntu> get this idiotic manuever...  So I'm trying to scp a cert to my machine, and instead of root@www.domain.com:~ as the target, I slip and do root@www.domain.com/~
[22:11] <brokemyubuntu> now I can't ssh with my keyfile
[22:11] <brokemyubuntu> I think I overwrote the ~ directory link or something?
[22:12] <ikonia> brokemyubuntu: tahat would just put it in roots home directory
[22:12] <linxeh> brokemyubuntu: what ikonia said
[22:12] <brokemyubuntu> root home directory is www.domain.com:~, not www.domain.com:/~.  see what i mean?
[22:12] <ikonia> brokemyubuntu: it's the same
[22:13] <crash1hd> Jikan, hmm dont know how to use aptitude but I did do a quick search (couldnt tell if it found something) but when I check the package manager and do a search for unity it says it is installed
[22:13] <linxeh> one does wonder why you are ssh'ing as root in the first place
[22:13] <ikonia> brokemyubuntu: the only other thing it could have done is put a file called ~ in /
[22:13] <brokemyubuntu> yeah, I think I did that
[22:13] <thunsucker> brokemyubuntu, try: sudo rm ~/.ssh/known_hosts
[22:13] <ikonia> thunsucker: why will that fix anything ?
[22:14] <brokemyubuntu> it asks for a password even though I'm trying to log in with ssh -i privatekey.pem
[22:14] <ikonia> brokemyubuntu: if the key can't be validated use the account password, rather than the key
[22:14] <thunsucker> ikonia, if the host record is messed up for some reason yes
[22:14] <crash1hd> Jikan, hmm could it be because I disabled the ati/amd driver cause it was showing a warning at the bottom of the screen
[22:15] <ikonia> thunsucker: why would the host record be messed up, he's just said the issue
[22:15] <Jikan> crash1hd: "aptitude search unity" is to be typed in a terminal, but the results will be the same as you'll find in synaptic when typing unity in the search bar
[22:15] <ikonia> thunsucker: the error isn't an incorrect host one,
[22:15] <Jikan> crash1hd: possible if you don't have unity-2d installed
[22:15] <brokemyubuntu> ubuntu server running on amazon, private key is required, can't log in using password
[22:15] <crash1hd> Jikan, right unity-2d was not installed
[22:15] <thunsucker> ikonia, he said he couldn't ssh, in doing troubleshooting it's possible that he messed it up
[22:15] <mister_bubbles> *sigh* this is why i don't like 'free' software.. you get what you pay for
[22:15] <crash1hd> Jikan, going to try the custom ati driver again to see if that was what it was
[22:15] <ikonia> thunsucker: randomly removing files isn't trouble shooting
[22:16] <mister_bubbles> or: linux is only free if your time has no value
[22:16] <phoenixsampras> help how to install pdf2swf ??? HELP SOS
[22:16] <thunsucker> ikonia, thinking you know everything doesn't make you smart
[22:16] <ikonia> thunsucker: I'm not silly enough to start randomly removing files
[22:16] <Jikan> if you have no compatible driver, unity should fallback to 2D mode given you have a working install of unity-2D
[22:16] <thunsucker> ikonia, think about it, he imported the key incorrectly and could have messed up his ssh host record, it won't hurt anything if he removes it
[22:17] <ikonia> thunsucker: importing the key doesn't touch known_hosts
[22:17] <thunsucker> ikonia, also this is an open chat room, people are allow to post suggestions
[22:17] <crash1hd> Jikan, right I am sure the driver is compatable it just shows this box in the corner (I dont recall what it says atm) but I will find out in a min :)
[22:17] <ikonia> thunsucker: yes, and I'm just informing you that randomly removing that file is not useful
[22:17] <phoenixsampras> SOS?
[22:17] <thunsucker> ikonia, randomly removing of a file is not what i suggested, i offered something that might help, whether you think it will or not
[22:18] <qin> phoenixsampras: Save Our Systems
[22:18] <brokemyubuntu> removed .ssh/known_hosts.. didn't help
[22:18] <thunsucker> okay
[22:18] <ikonia> thunsucker: so I asked "how would removing the known hosts file help"
[22:18] <kunwon1> i'm in the 'keyboard shortcuts' dialog for gnome-terminal, i want to set one of the shortcuts to 'disabled' but when i double click on the item it just asks me to press the new key. what do i press to set 'disabled'?
[22:18] <thunsucker> ikonia, and i answered, learn to read, learn respect, and then logoff
[22:18] <crash1hd> Is there a gnome ubuntu cleanup tool (that looks for old unused drivers and tells you they are not being used to allow you to remove them
[22:18] <thunsucker> !topic | ikonia
[22:19] <brokemyubuntu> I can still ssh to other boxes
[22:19] <ikonia> thunsucker: drop teh attitude, if you can't help people properly, don't, randomly removing files with no reason is not helpful
[22:19] <lion42> thunsucker, you're being very disrespectful. ikonia is just trying to help: this is not a stage for your opinions alone.
[22:19] <phoenixsampras> help how to install pdf2swf ??? <<< HELP pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[22:19] <thunsucker> lion42, it's not a stage for his opinions alone
[22:19] <ikonia> thunsucker: when you are offering help that can cause problems, - it is
[22:20] <Jikan> kunwon1: just highlight the shortcut you want to modify and erase what's written
[22:20] <brokemyubuntu> I appreciate all suggestions
[22:20] <thunsucker> lion42, i made a suggestion, it didn't work, but i still have the right to make suggestions
[22:20] <Jikan> like select all ⇒ backspace
[22:20] <zykotick9> phoenixsampras, do you mean pdf2svg?
[22:20] <lion42> thunsucker, that's true. And then you'll be corrected when you're wrong.
[22:20] <kunwon1> Jikan: awesome! that worked. thanks!
[22:20] <phoenixsampras> zykotick9: no, there is a tools to convert PDF to SWF
[22:20] <Jikan> you're welcome ^^
[22:20] <phoenixsampras> http://flexpaper.devaldi.com/docs_php.jsp
[22:20] <thunsucker> !assfucker | ikonia
[22:20] <ikonia> enough now, thunsucker please put a little thought into suggestion
[22:20] <thunsucker> !assfucker | lion2
[22:20] <FloodBot1> thunsucker: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:21] <lion42> Or that.
[22:21] <kunwon1> moderating this channel must be a chore
[22:21] <brokemyubuntu> shoot, i think I know what happenned.   when trying to delete the ~ file that I created, could I have deleted the ~ directory? i.e. the root user directory?
[22:21] <zykotick9> kunwon1, agreed.  Thank you all OPs :)
[22:21] <ikonia> brokemyubuntu: that makes sense
[22:21] <ikonia> brokemyubuntu: contacting amazon and asking them to put the key file back is the quickest way
[22:22] <zykotick9> brokemyubuntu, ~ is the user home directory, unless you where using sudo or logged in as root
[22:22] <Aeth> If there is a server running an old version of Ubuntu, is there a place where the security vulnerabilities are listed?
[22:22] <Aeth> Upgrading is impossible, so I need to know where the vulnterabilities are.
[22:22] <brokemyubuntu> ok
[22:22] <ikonia> Aeth: you need to look at CERN reports
[22:23] <phoenixsampras> how to install SWFTOOLS ?
[22:23] <brokemyubuntu> I think I can just mount the EBS volume to another instance and copy the file back.
[22:23] <ikonia> brokemyubuntu: if that works, superb
[22:23] <brokemyubuntu> thanks, I'll give that a try.
[22:23] <zykotick9> phoenixsampras, looks like you'll have to compile from source http://www.swftools.org/ or search if it's in a PPA
[22:25] <Aeth> ikonia: cern reports?
[22:25] <ikonia> Aeth: google them
[22:25] <Aeth> ok
[22:26] <alamri> هلا مرحبا
[22:26] <Jikan> sure dude
[22:26] <Jikan> cool story
[22:26] <Jikan> e__e
[22:26] <alamri> وش حالكم يالربع
[22:26] <zykotick9> Aeth, running a server on an unsupported OS if verging on crazy
[22:26] <zykotick9> s/if/is/
[22:27] <crash1hdU> After activating the custom amd/ati video driver I have this logo in the corner of the screen that says AMD Unsupported hardware? any idea how to remove it?
[22:27] <alamri> راحو في است العدو
[22:27] <bastidrazor> !arabic | alamri
[22:27] <Aeth> zykotick9: well, I have no choice unfortunately.
[22:27] <Aeth> This server is Ubuntu 9.10 and I need to secure it.
[22:28] <Aeth> It *would* be easier if it was upgraded.
[22:28] <ikonia> Aeth: is there a reason you can't upgrade it ?
[22:29] <Aeth> ikonia: The server has to remain up.
[22:29] <Jikan> crash1hdU: see http://phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?15192-Ugly-Watermark-Issue-quot-AMD-Unsupported-hardware-quot
[22:29] <alamri> افلح
[22:29] <Jikan> and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1248220
[22:29] <ikonia> Aeth: the downtime should only be the final reboot
[22:29] <crash1hdU> Jikan, thanks will have a look
[22:29] <Aeth> ikonia: Right. In 99.999999999% of cases, it's preferable.
[22:29] <Aeth> However, I'm not my boss, I can't do the upgrade.
[22:29] <ikonia> Aeth: your call
[22:30] <X-tonic> I have not understood NBS properly even after reading it up on the ubuntu wiki. Once after downloading the source of the package which needs to be recompiled with the new library, how do I actually set dependencies and recompile? Doesnt ./configure itself dictate dependencies?
[22:30] <ikonia> NBS ?
[22:30] <X-tonic> Not Built from Source @ ikonia
[22:30] <Aeth> ikonia: My point is that it's not my call. :-/
[22:30] <Aeth> If it were my call, it'd be updated.
[22:31] <ikonia> X-tonic: what software do you want to use ?
[22:31] <Guest37828> hola
[22:32] <X-tonic> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NBS @ ikonia
[22:32] <mneptok> Aeth: 9.10 will soon be unsupported, and will get no updates at all.
[22:32] <zykotick9> !es | Guest37828
[22:32] <Guest37828> hi
[22:33] <lion42> Heh.
[22:33] <HoNgOuRu> hi
[22:33] <X-tonic> if I say namaste, will i get a msg saying to join #ubuntu-in too?
[22:33] <X-tonic> namaste
[22:33] <ikonia> X-tonic: what ?
[22:33] <mneptok> X-tonic: no, #ubuntu-nepal
[22:33] <HoNgOuRu> Im having a problem with my 5.1 sound
[22:33] <ikonia> X-tonic: I just asked what software you where trying to use
[22:34] <HoNgOuRu> can I get some help here?
[22:34] <X-tonic> ikonia: I meant general. Something like libindicator3 i wanted to fix.
[22:34] <ikonia> X-tonic: fix it ?
[22:34] <Guest37828> bye
[22:34] <X-tonic> as in it is in the http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/nbs.html
[22:34] <jsemar> hey guys I am trying to get ssh to listen on port 9999 on a remote server and forward ssh traffic to port 22 on the box I am on...so far I have this :sudo ssh -nNT -R 9999:0.0.0.0:22 me@remoteserver.com
[22:34] <ikonia> X-tonic: the reason I'm asking is most software is already built for you in and in the repos, so unless you really understand what you're doing building software from scratch for your system isn't a good idea
[22:34] <HoNgOuRu> Im using 11.04, my 5.1 stops working as it should after I switch to another song for example...
[22:36] <X-tonic> jsemar: doesnt ssh -ND 9999 you@remoteserver do thetrick?
[22:38] <HoNgOuRu> can anybody help me? Im having problems with my sound blaster sound card, the subwoffer just stops working if I switch to another song
[22:39] <sdasdas> how to set an environment variable in ibintu?
[22:40] <ikonia> sdasdas: in what ?
[22:40] <edbian> sdasdas: variable=something
[22:41] <X-tonic> sdasdas:  type " export variable = something"
[22:41] <jsemar> X-tonic: no, it doesn't, it just hangs
[22:42] <sdasdas> I need persistent
[22:42] <X-tonic> sdasdas: add it to .bashrc
[22:42] <X-tonic> if you want it for ur profile
[22:42] <jsemar> X-tonic, i've used the command i gave before for another server (pydevd remore debugging) it basicallly allows the breakpoint on a remote server to send its data to a port that get forwarded to me
[22:42] <sdasdas> is bashrc used for frafic sessions too?
[22:43] <BarkingFish> Good evening all.  Do you have a channel for your devs from Ubuntu please?  I'm trying to grab one who may be online, but I don't know what nick I'm looking for.  The dev in question is Stefano Rivera
[22:43] <X-tonic> sdasdas:  add /etc/bash.bashrc if you want it to all sessions
[22:44] <BarkingFish> ignore that question, the user i want is online :)  I just found his entry in launchpad!  Sorry about that.
[22:47] <jsemar> X-tonic ive gotten that other command to work, but i have to ssh into the 'proxy' and ssh localhost -p 9999 from there
[22:47] <jsemar> i cant just ssh remote -p 9999 from anywhere
[22:47] <nathanel> hi all
[22:48] <nathanel> having an issue with a quicklist command for gnome-terminal
[22:49] <^Mike\b> Is there a GUI program I can use to easily encrypt or password-protect a file/archive of files?
[22:49] <nathanel> [UpdateUpgrade Shortcut Group]
[22:49] <nathanel> Name=Update and Upgrade System
[22:49] <nathanel> Exec=gnome-terminal --command "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -y"
[22:49] <nathanel> TargetEnvironment=Unity
[22:49] <nathanel> FILE
[22:49] <FloodBot1> nathanel: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:49] <Jikan> nathanel: please use pastebin >_<
[22:50] <Zhoom> When I boot up Ubuntu on this computer, my login screen doesn't show. What shows, is a fullscreen terminal, (must login and startx before you can use the mouse)
[22:50] <Zhoom> I don't know why my login screen isn't showing, but could somebody possibly help me?
[22:51] <haqking> zhoom: is it a desktop edition or server edition ?
[22:51] <zykotick9> Zhoom, rather then using "startx" does "sudo service gdm start" work?
[22:51] <Zhoom> haqking, it's a desktop edition.
[22:51] <ikonian_fag> ikonia, i have a problem, I can't sucking gay dick long enough to be able to help lion42!
[22:52] <Zhoom> zykotick9, let me try that.
[22:52] <Zhoom> Guys, I'll be right back!
[22:52] <haqking> ahh zykotick9 beat me to next bit
[22:52] <lion42> ...
[22:52] <lion42> How did I get involved in that particular statement.
[22:52] <lion42> Oh, was it pissed off due from earlier?
[22:53] <nathanel> the snippet is on pastebin.. i also have the X-ayatana flag for the module set in the launcher... the command opens a term, asks for password then just closes... ;/
[22:53] <mrtc> Hey guys I'm looking for dd expert!
[22:53] <nathanel> mrtc: what is your issue?
[22:53] <mrtc> I have a bootable compactflash drive that I want to backup to ISO
[22:54] <nathanel> easy... are you familiar with the filesystem and its directories?
[22:54] <ikonian_fag> ikonia, you suck deek long time
[22:54] <mrtc> I'm using dd if=/dev/sdc of=flash.iso bs=2048
[22:55] <mrtc> if I copy that back to the cf disc in the same matter will it still be bootable?
[22:55] <nathanel> specify the partition in the drive.. i guess sdc1
[22:55] <mrtc> ahh okay
[22:55] <nathanel> the same way that backing up a cd/dvd would be scd0
[22:56] <mrtc> perfect, thanks nathanel
[22:56] <nathanel> you can the verify its contents with the archive manager :)
[22:56] <nathanel> or md5sum of the specific directories and compare to make sure it's all copied to the bit
[22:57] <linxeh> or use rsync
[22:57] <bustyasian132> i have a problem with ubuntu, any help?
[22:57] <linxeh> which is designed to do that automatically for you
[22:57] <mrtc> oops, it's saying no such file or directory :(
[22:57] <linxeh> bustyasian132: ask the real question :)
[22:58] <mrtc> "/dev/sdc worked but I assume that's wrong
[22:58] <nathanel> the bs parameter might not be appropriate.. you can check the fs type (i assume FAT) and use the appropriate flag for it
[22:59] <mrtc> I have no clue what the file system is, it doesn't mount in ubuntu, it was a freeNAS install
[22:59] <zykotick9> mrtc, if it's bootable media then /dev/sdc is probably correct, BUT can't really be an ISO file, image file yes.
[22:59] <nathanel> so.. guys.. any feedback on the x-ayatana module? i really don't get why it isn't starting
[22:59] <mrtc> img is fine
[22:59] <nathanel> bustyasian.. what is your issue
[23:00] <nathanel> ok
[23:00] <nathanel> mrtc: all good then
[23:00] <mrtc> I believe so
[23:00] <mrtc> thanks all!
[23:00] <nathanel> np :)
[23:01] <nathanel> help?
[23:01] <DeltaEpsilon> can some one recommend me a good calendar app for Ubuntu?
[23:02] <brandon---> DeltaEpsilon: I either use Evolution or Google calendar.
[23:02] <nathanel> deltaepsilon: orage?
[23:02] <th0r> DeltaEpsilon: orage?
[23:02] <nathanel> th0r.. you rock LOL
[23:02] <DeltaEpsilon> brandon---, I would like to have an app that works with google calendar
[23:02] <nathanel> delta: are you connected at all times?
[23:02] <Zhoom> thank you to whoever told me to use "sudo service gdm start" It showed the login screen. but my problem still is, how come it doesn't show it when I first start up my computer?
[23:03] <ubuntuweeeeee__> Zhoom, ask ikonia he probably knows
[23:03] <^Mike\b> I've installed seahorse-plugins, but I don't get an "Encrypt" option when I right-click in nautilus. Was that feature removed?
[23:03] <DeltaEpsilon> nathanel, almost all times
[23:03] <nathanel> Zhoom: it's not in your bashrc or in init
[23:03] <nathanel> ok
[23:03] <Zhoom> do you know how to add it?
[23:03] <Zhoom> or no?
[23:03] <nathanel> delta: r u on unity? if so.. i can paste you a quicklist for the google services
[23:03] <brandon---> DeltaEpsilon: I use Google Chrome and the Google makes an add on where you can use Google Calendar offline.
[23:03] <DeltaEpsilon> nathanel, I use gnome classic
[23:04] <Zhoom> I was once told to remove gdm, then re install it. so it's not starting up properly.
[23:04] <nathanel> you can reuse the commands and create launchers that'll point to the browser
[23:04] <nathanel> care to try?
[23:04] <c4pt> hello if i try using root terminal with gksu as 'su' i get an error "Incorrect Password" if i chage gksu with gksu-properties to 'sudo' the password works (how can i keep using gksu with su or fix the problem?)
[23:04] <DeltaEpsilon> nathanel, I prfer a system service to remind me of my tasks
[23:04] <brandon---> c4pt: su wants you to log into root.
[23:05] <c4pt> brandon---, i am using the right password
[23:05] <brandon---> c4pt: Use 'sudo passwd' and change root's password if you want to use 'su'.
[23:05] <nathanel> ok.... personnally i use gm-notify to send me my inbox reception stats and the calendar is set to send me a mail to notify :)
[23:05] <zykotick9> Zhoom, verify that /etc/init/ has a GDM entry, and that it's executable.
[23:06] <c4pt> brandon---, i am using the right password with root's password
[23:06] <Zhoom> zykotick9, there's a gdm.conf
[23:07] <c4pt> brandon---, if i use my user name (c4pt) with gksu-properties 'sudo' the password works if i use gksu-properties with root as 'su' and c4pt gksu-properties 'su' it doesnt work
[23:07] <zykotick9> Zhoom, and does "ls -l /etc/init/gdm.conf" show rwx?
[23:07] <c4pt> brandon---, do you think maybe one of the programs has a permissions problem
[23:07] <nathanel> c4pt: check the gdm binary
[23:07] <c4pt> brandon---, about 30 minutes ago i accidentally ran chown -R c4pt:c4pt in / (i was trying to chown -R a dir)
[23:07] <Zhoom> zykotick9: it shows: -rw-r--r--
[23:07] <c4pt> brandon---, so i reset / with chown -R root:root bin
[23:07] <c4pt> brandon---, so i reset / with chown -R root:root dev
[23:07] <c4pt> brandon---, so i reset / with chown -R root:root etc
[23:08] <c4pt> etcetc.
[23:08] <zykotick9> Zhoom, "sudo chmod +x /etc/init/gdm.conf" might fix your issue
[23:08] <mneptok> c4pt: do not repeat like that
[23:08] <nathanel> that's why.. you need to reset the file owner to root with root only access to perm
[23:08] <Zhoom> okay,
[23:08] <zykotick9> Zhoom, sorry - ignore that for a moment!
[23:08] <Zhoom> whoops
[23:08] <Zhoom> I sort of already did it. :3
[23:08] <zykotick9> Zhoom, are the other files executable in there?
[23:08] <Zhoom> no.
[23:08] <zykotick9> Zhoom, "sudo chmod -x /etc/init/gdm.conf" to undo
[23:09] <c4pt> mneptok, ok
[23:09] <Zhoom> okay, done.
[23:09] <nathanel> people: i need a little assistance about a quiclist
[23:09] <nathanel> quicklist*
[23:09] <zykotick9> Zhoom, sorry I don't know why it's not starting - hopefully someone else has something.  Good luck!
[23:09] <Zhoom> so sudo chmod +x won't work?
[23:10] <zykotick9> Zhoom, it if everything else isn't executable (sorry i got confused there)
[23:10] <zykotick9> s/it/not/
[23:10] <Zhoom> oh.
[23:11] <MocDroid> pinc
[23:11] <MocDroid> ping
[23:13] <nathanel> help??!
[23:14] <bazhang> nathanel, what is the exact issue, please be clear
[23:14] <Zhoom> so, can somebody help me get the login screen to appear when I boot up my computer?
[23:14] <c4pt> brandon---, basically su to root isnt working 'if i try "su root" it fails with the right password (if i use sudo -s it works)
[23:15] <nathanel> i have made a unity quicklist entry for gnome-terminal. when i execute, it onlly pops a new terminal window, asks for sudo passw and the exits window. the command is:  Exec=gnome-terminal --command "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -y"
[23:15] <p014k> Hello. I'm using ubuntu 11.04 with compiz and trying to use the screenshot function, but my screenshots look like they've been 'selected': like so: http://i.imgur.com/tLQLQ.png
[23:16] <harpal> c4pt: did you set root password? or you assuming your first user password is root password?
[23:16] <c4pt> brandon---, i fixed it with chmod +s /bin/su
[23:16] <c4pt> brandon---, from sudo -s
[23:16] <zykotick9> nathanel, try "gnome-terminal -e "sudo.... "
[23:16] <Zhoom> p014k, are you using Prnt Scrn ??
[23:16] <c4pt> brandon---, since i mentioned i touched the permissions in / by mistake with recurrisve
[23:17] <zykotick9> nathanel, forget that --command is the same thing
[23:17] <rcmaehl> I just need this verified real quick, can some ssh to fcofix.dyndns.org and make sure you get asked for a pass?
[23:17] <rcmaehl> Thanks
[23:17] <ikonia> rcmaehl: you can test that yourself
[23:17] <rcmaehl> not really
[23:17] <ikonia> rcmaehl: yes
[23:17] <p014k> Zhoom: no, I'm using the shortcut I assigned. Super+button 1. It lets me select a rectangle.
[23:17] <ikonia> rcmaehl: ssh to it, see if you get asked for a password
[23:17] <rcmaehl> as the ssh resolves to this PC
[23:17] <c4pt> thanx
[23:17] <ikonia> rcmaehl: so ?
[23:18] <ikonia> rcmaehl: what you get asked for, someone else will get asked for
[23:18] <DeltaEpsilon> does Ubuntu have an indexing service like Windows 7 or OSX?
[23:19] <nathanel> yes.. superfetch... i think..
[23:19] <Zhoom> rcmaehl, it won't let me connect to it.
[23:19] <DeltaEpsilon> nathanel, superfetch for Ubuntu?
[23:19] <rcmaehl> ikonia: ^ point proven
[23:19] <nathanel> i mean tracker.. sorry.. got mixed up...
[23:19] <Zhoom> ssh root@fcofix.dyndns.org
[23:20] <Zhoom> I was hoping it would let me in w/o password.
[23:20] <ikonia> rcmaehl: that's not ssh
[23:20] <Zhoom> ^
[23:20] <ikonia> rcmaehl: the will be a firewall or tcp wrappers
[23:20] <Zhoom> lul
[23:20] <Zhoom> FTP
[23:20] <Zhoom> SFTP
[23:20] <rcmaehl> Zhoom[BRB]: try ssh rcmaehl@fcofix.dyndns.org
[23:20] <rcmaehl> see if it asks for pass
[23:20] <nathanel> the snippet i got the quicklist from specifies Exec=gnome-terminal --command "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade"
[23:21] <r3m> how to remove X entirely
[23:22] <DeltaEpsilon> nathanel, can't find it
[23:22] <nathanel> hmmm...
[23:22] <^Mike\b> Is there a free GPG client for windows?
[23:23] <jrib> ^Mike\b: ##windows
[23:23] <th0r> ^Mike\b: yes
[23:24] <Zhoom[BRB]> rcmaehl, still no connection.
[23:25] <Zhoom[BRB]> it's not ssh like ikonia said.
[23:25] <ikonia> rcmaehl: it's probably your nat not setup correctly
[23:25] <rcmaehl> or I don't have port forwarding enabled
[23:26] <Zhoom[BRB]> port forward = bad.
[23:26] <rcmaehl> I only need 1 and only one machine on my network to accept port 22
[23:26] <ikonia> rcmaehl: portforward is the nat
[23:26] <Zhoom> oh.
[23:26] <rcmaehl> now try
[23:26] <Zhoom> still no connection </3
[23:27] <Zhoom> rcmaehl, what OS are you on?
[23:27] <rcmaehl> ubuntu
[23:27] <Zhoom> ...
[23:27] <Zhoom> do you even have openssh installed?
[23:27] <rcmaehl> run in terminal ssh rcmaehl@fcofix.dyndns.org
[23:27] <rcmaehl> Zhoom: yes
[23:27] <Zhoom> probably not started.
[23:27] <Zhoom> nmap localhost
[23:27] <Zhoom> is port 22 open?
[23:28] <rcmaehl> yes
[23:28] <Zhoom> then something isn't setup correctly.
[23:28] <Autoclesis> ubuntu can't find external hd
[23:28] <Autoclesis> what to do?
[23:28] <W3ird_N3rd> don't know
[23:28] <W3ird_N3rd> does it show in dmesg?
[23:28] <rcmaehl> Zhoom: openssh-server is already the newest version.
[23:29] <Autoclesis> um...
[23:29] <zykotick9> r3m, i've never tried, but i'd guess "sudo apt-get remove xserver-xorg-core" would possibly work.
[23:29] <Zhoom> I never asked about the newer version.
[23:29] <Autoclesis> is it 1susb or lsusb?
[23:29] <W3ird_N3rd> lsusb
[23:29] <Autoclesis> okay i'll try it. thanks W3ird_N3rd
[23:29] <W3ird_N3rd> Autoclesis, open a terminal, run "dmesg", plug in your drive, run "dmesg" again
[23:29] <Autoclesis> okay
[23:30] <DeltaEpsilon> I installed deskbar applet but I can't find it in the list of applets of gnome-panel :-(
[23:32] <terahertz777> hi
[23:33] <Autoclesis> W3ird_N3rd, how do i know if i accomplished anything?
[23:33] <Autoclesis> should it appear under Places/
[23:34] <W3ird_N3rd> Autoclesis, was anything added to dmesg after plugging in?
[23:34] <W3ird_N3rd> pastebin the last, say, 50 lines from your dmesg after plugging in if you don't know
[23:34] <W3ird_N3rd> so we can look at it :P
[23:34] <Autoclesis> um...
[23:34] <W3ird_N3rd> www.pastebin.de
[23:34] <Zhoom> pastebin.com
[23:35] <Autoclesis> it says " Initializing USB Mass Storage driver...
[23:35] <Autoclesis> "
[23:36] <Autoclesis> USB Mass Storage support registered
[23:36] <Autoclesis> that sounds promising
[23:36] <Zhoom> now, can anybody help me get the Ubuntu Login Screen to appear instead of a giant terminal when I boot up my computer?
[23:36] <W3ird_N3rd> Autoclesis, are you using Ubuntu?
[23:36] <Autoclesis> yes
[23:36] <W3ird_N3rd> and it says "Initializing USB Mass Storage driver..." in dmesg?
[23:37] <bacar> hey the world
[23:37] <Autoclesis> yes
[23:37] <Autoclesis> it's this : http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004CG4WOI
[23:37] <Zhoom> autoclesis, it should show things like OUTBOUND / INBOUND
[23:37] <bacar> there is person in this chat who like embedded system ?
[23:37] <Autoclesis> okay
[23:37] <W3ird_N3rd> can you pastebin the last 50 lines from your dmesg Autoclesis?
[23:37] <W3ird_N3rd> because I don't think I've ever seen stuff like that in my dmesg, so I'm confused
[23:38] <bazhang> bacar, whats the real question, please be clear
[23:38] <Autoclesis> Let me mess with it.
[23:38] <Zhoom> guess nobody can fix my ubuntu login screen issue. :p
[23:38] <Autoclesis> Thanks W3ird_N3rd  and Zhoom
[23:38] <Autoclesis> :0
[23:38] <Zhoom> ok.
[23:38] <W3ird_N3rd> it sounds more like windows
[23:38] <Autoclesis> bye
[23:39] <W3ird_N3rd> not sure though, not plugged USB mass storage in windows boxes for a while
[23:39] <Zhoom> if you don't know what OS you are running, please get off the computer and go sleep.
[23:39] <W3ird_N3rd> Zhoom, are you talking to me?
[23:39] <Zhoom> no.
[23:39] <W3ird_N3rd> I just don't remember seeing text like that in dmesg
[23:39] <Zhoom> If I was talking to you, I would of said your name.
[23:40] <W3ird_N3rd> so I'm wondering what he was using
[23:40] <Zhoom> he probably doesn't even know what OS he's running.
[23:40] <Zhoom> :|
[23:41] <W3ird_N3rd> Zhoom, it looks like it is something from Linux.. http://www.hackorama.com/pages/usb.shtml shows similar. But my Ubuntu doesn't show things like that
[23:41] <chase> haha, I royally screwed myself...my nvidia video card failed so I installed an ati one but cannot get it to boot even to a terminal no matter what I do....
[23:41] <chase> anyone got any ideas?
[23:42] <W3ird_N3rd> chase, what does it do?
[23:42] <chase> tried xforcevesa, single user mode....recovery mode....
[23:42] <chase> after grub loads the monitor stops recognizing a signal
[23:42] <W3ird_N3rd> ctrl+alt+f1?
[23:43] <stephenh> does anyone know what file firefox keeps it's cached passwords in?
[23:43] <photon> stephen123: #firefox
[23:43] <stephenh> nice ta
[23:43] <eTroll> Why Ubuntu sucks: No one can upgrade the software without an administrator password, so Ubuntu desktops in businesses end up with outdated web browsers.
[23:43] <bazhang> eTroll, wrong channel, really
[23:44] <eTroll> Because no business is paying someone to go in and upgrade the software.
[23:44] <photon> automatic updates?
[23:44] <eTroll> bazhang: Prove me wrong.
[23:44] <Zhoom> ^
[23:44] <Zhoom> there's auto updates.
[23:44] <eTroll> photon: Never enabled on any Ubuntu system in the field.
[23:44] <W3ird_N3rd> there are no ops here to kick trolls, are there?
[23:44] <ikonia> eTroll: please talk about something you know about, instead of talking nonsense
[23:44] <bazhang> eTroll, wrong place for nonsense, try #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:44] <stephenh> who wouldn't have sudo on their own workstation ?!
[23:44] <ikonia> bazhang: nonsense isn't welcome in #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:44] <photon> eTroll: that's not our problem.
[23:44] <ikonia> eTroll: do you have a support question to do with ubuntu ?
[23:44] <Zhoom> probably not.
[23:45] <stephenh> eTroll: and if they used a configuration management application like puppet (like LOADS do)
[23:45] <stephenh> they could centrally deploy packages
[23:45] <Zhoom> yo, just forget about it.
[23:45] <W3ird_N3rd> stephenh, don't feed the troll
[23:45] <photon> don't feed the etroll.
[23:45] <stephenh> simples.
[23:45] <eTroll> ikonia: How to get http://www.madonnashots.com/mo7912.jpg to print for perverse purposes involving heavy breathing and licking.
[23:45] <Zhoom> not feeding him will make him starve, and eventually die. :P
[23:45] <stephenh> W3ird_N3rd: i suppose, but he was trolling for someothing that he thought wasn't answerable :)
[23:46] <eTroll> stephenh: They don't.
[23:46] <W3ird_N3rd> stephenh, never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.
[23:46] <sdasdas> what is libexec?
[23:46] <stephenh> W3ird_N3rd: i have lots of experience :p
[23:46]  * stephenh used to be one of them
[23:46] <W3ird_N3rd> stephenh, not at that level (I hope)
[23:47] <stephenh> but to be fair, it should be in off topic as it has no relevence to this channel's purpose
[23:47] <chase> gah, I really dont want to have to reinstall ubuntu just to get my graphics working
[23:47] <stephenh> no answer in #firefox :\
[23:47] <stephenh> really need that cached password from my work pc
[23:47] <W3ird_N3rd> chase, did you try ctrl+alt+f1?
[23:47] <chase> yes, didn't work
[23:48] <W3ird_N3rd> chase, can you boot some rescue cd?
[23:48] <sdasdas> what is libexec? (a directory)
[23:48] <chase> I could burn a live cd, yeah.
[23:48] <stephenh> nm, got my answer :)
[23:48] <chase> what would I be able to do from a live cd?
[23:48] <sdasdas> is it some ubuntu proprietary extension?
[23:49] <W3ird_N3rd> chase, if you can boot a rescue cd (best to make a CDRW, these things outdate far too quick) (or USB) you can look at /etc/grub/default
[23:49] <W3ird_N3rd> since your screen goes black right after grub, there's probably some funky stuff in your kernel bootline
[23:49] <chase> I can edit grub. It boots to grub, just the second I pick any option, even single user made or xforcevesa, I lose a signal.
[23:49] <W3ird_N3rd> if there is and you remove it, run update-grub
[23:50] <W3ird_N3rd> hmm oh wait for that you need the system to actually run (or chroot)
[23:50] <W3ird_N3rd> you can boot grub with a custom line
[23:50] <W3ird_N3rd> there perhaps you can remove whatever is messing things up
[23:52] <W3ird_N3rd> booting some alternative media you could blacklist nvidia, but I don't know if that would work
[23:52] <chase> recover mode worked if I removed $linux_gfx_mode from it
[23:52] <chase> odd
[23:54] <W3ird_N3rd> chase, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/685611 ?
[23:56] <sdasdas> is there a command to see dependantr libraries for some file?
[23:56] <W3ird_N3rd> chase, looks like you should post that thread, maybe that'll reactivate it
[23:57] <chase> will do that in a sec
[23:58] <chase> seeing if I can boot with xforcevesa with that line removed......looks like the answer is no, only works for single user mode.
[23:58] <mkanyicy> sdasdas: ldd?
[23:59] <mkanyicy> sdasdas: have you given that a shot?
[23:59] <sdasdas> yes, that's what was needed