[00:30] <iverson0881> Hi, i was wondering why some jobs that I start with sudo -u $user don't necessarily start with $user, they sometimes can start with root, 
[00:30] <iverson0881> I'm using the instance feature of upstart and and experiencing this
[03:28] <BLZbubba> is there an option to use "console file /tmp/upstart.log" or something like that instead of "console output"
[03:28] <BLZbubba> my system doesn't have a console so it's impossible to debug boot problems currently
[03:42] <frewsxcv> so if i run my conf script manually, it runs my service fine, but upstart, it doesn't
[03:42] <frewsxcv> what can i do to debug this
[18:33] <cyberlogi> Hi all. I'm trying to execute scripts using upstart as a different user. For example:    exec su -s /bin/bash -c 'exec "$0" "$@"' ubuntu -- whoami >> /home/ubuntu/test.log     works fine, but I can't figure out how to get it to login as the user and load the .bashrc options
[19:10] <cyberlogi> exit
[20:30] <PuffTheMagic> is there anyway to run upstart as non pid=1
[20:30] <PuffTheMagic> im trying to debug something without a console
[20:31] <PuffTheMagic> and i cant do that if upstart has to be init=1
[20:31] <PuffTheMagic> pid=1