[00:30] Hi, i was wondering why some jobs that I start with sudo -u $user don't necessarily start with $user, they sometimes can start with root, [00:30] I'm using the instance feature of upstart and and experiencing this === iverson0881_ is now known as iverson0881 [03:28] is there an option to use "console file /tmp/upstart.log" or something like that instead of "console output" [03:28] my system doesn't have a console so it's impossible to debug boot problems currently [03:42] so if i run my conf script manually, it runs my service fine, but upstart, it doesn't [03:42] what can i do to debug this === iverson0881_ is now known as iverson0881 [18:33] Hi all. I'm trying to execute scripts using upstart as a different user. For example: exec su -s /bin/bash -c 'exec "$0" "$@"' ubuntu -- whoami >> /home/ubuntu/test.log works fine, but I can't figure out how to get it to login as the user and load the .bashrc options [19:10] exit [20:30] is there anyway to run upstart as non pid=1 [20:30] im trying to debug something without a console [20:31] and i cant do that if upstart has to be init=1 [20:31] pid=1