[00:47] <crowin11> hi anyone know how to enable wireless?
[00:48] <IdleOne> !details
[00:48] <crowin11> xubuntu latest release. have installed much and cannot get the wireless to find the router
[00:50] <crowin11> how about did anyone have to do anything other than install the operating system to have wireless?
[00:50] <crowin11> is anyone here on a wireless connection?
[00:50] <crowin11> how did you get yours to work?
[00:51] <zHammeRz> I entered my security key and it worked.
[00:51] <crowin11> i have non wep
[00:51] <crowin11> im in the middle of nowhere and do not need security
[00:51] <crowin11> ill try that
[00:51] <crowin11> thanks
[00:52] <zHammeRz> it may not like connecting to unsecured networks?  idk
[00:55] <crowin11> im back
[00:55] <crowin11> well that didnt work
[00:56] <zHammeRz> what's the error?
[00:56] <crowin11> so i set up a wireless connection and put in all the info for the router and the network and still nothing
[00:56] <crowin11> is there a key somewhere to enable the radio or something im missing?
[00:57] <crowin11> dang thing should work automattressly
[00:57] <zHammeRz> what's the card's model #?
[00:58] <crowin11> i couldnt tell you
[00:58] <crowin11> as far as i know its generic 801
[00:58] <zHammeRz> open up a terminal and do a dmesg and scroll up and look for anything helpful
[01:02] <crowin11> so i really dont know what im looking for :(
[01:03] <crowin11> i changed the interfaces file so it reads:
[01:03] <crowin11> auto eth1
[01:03] <crowin11> iface eth1 inet static
[01:03] <crowin11>     address 0.0.0.1
[01:03] <crowin11>     netmask 255.255.255.0
[01:03] <crowin11>     post-up wifi-radar
[01:04] <zHammeRz> that's a illegal ip address
[01:04] <crowin11> yeah so its spose to make the wifi radar look for a connection and bypass the auto etho
[01:04] <zHammeRz> your router set up for dhcp?  if so just get it from that
[01:05] <crowin11> i set it up for auto dhcp, and i tried it maunal and nothing
[01:05] <zHammeRz> sounds like your card isn't supported.  If you don't know the model #, no way of knowing
[01:06] <crowin11> auto eth1 iface eth1 inet static address 0.0.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 post-up wifi-radar
[01:07] <crowin11> well i really dont know how to find that information as to the card
[01:07] <crowin11> oughta be supported its just a dell
[01:07] <crowin11> low cost geeks love em
[01:07] <zHammeRz> dell what?
[01:07] <crowin11> inspiron e1705
[01:08] <zHammeRz> why didn't you just say it was a laptop
[01:08] <crowin11> arent they  all?
[01:08] <crowin11> sorry i am getting delerious from leaning over thiws thing
[01:09] <crowin11> i need to get in a comfy chair soon
[01:09] <crowin11> need wireless so i can get away from this aweful table
[01:09] <zHammeRz> so you have a pcmcia card?
[01:10] <crowin11> i guess
[01:10] <ElderDryas> Better watch out for the Spanish Inquisition
[01:10] <zHammeRz> or usb?  that laptop doesn't haev one built in so what did you buy to gain wireless?
[01:10] <crowin11> :P
[01:10] <crowin11> lo spanish inquisition comfy chair
[01:10] <crowin11> it is in the computer
[01:11] <crowin11> not usb
[01:11] <crowin11> this computer came with it i used it for years with godaweful windows
[01:11] <zHammeRz> it's not built in.  You had to buy the option from dell.  It's either a Dell 1390 or a intel pro/wireless 3945
[01:12] <zHammeRz> goto dell.com and enter your service tag and look up wtf it is
[01:12] <crowin11> ummm... it is built in, no kidding
[01:12] <crowin11> honestly
[01:12] <crowin11> i may not know much but i know its there
[01:12] <zHammeRz> i'll go look, pm me the service tag
[01:13] <crowin11> hang on
[01:13] <crowin11> i wish i could be more helpful, im a lot like an invalid
[01:13] <zHammeRz> I'm thinking your card is not supported, or has limited supported based on whatever hw revision it has
[01:14] <crowin11> hang on i need to get a flashlight
[01:14] <zHammeRz> I had that on one laptop..instead of fighting with it for hours I went to walmart and bought a $18 usb belkin 54g wireless card and that's what i'm using now lol
[01:14] <ElderDryas> should be a Wireless: Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG (802.11 a/b/g)
[01:14] <ElderDryas> http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=2776
[01:14] <crowin11> cyvlgc1
[01:15] <zHammeRz> YH774	Card, Wireless, Minicard DW1390, Broadcom Corporation
[01:17] <crowin11> ell Wireless 1390 WLAN MiniCard
[01:17] <crowin11> yep
[01:17] <crowin11> i have the broadcom driver installed
[01:19] <zHammeRz> well I found this
[01:19] <zHammeRz> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=297092
[01:19] <zHammeRz> and for doing all that, I would just go buy another card lol
[01:19] <crowin11> probly huh
[01:21] <zHammeRz> good lord
[01:21] <zHammeRz> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/1390
[01:23] <zHammeRz> you can also goto a terminal and type lspci and look for your network controller
[01:24] <crowin11> you never know how its going to end lol
[01:24] <zHammeRz> or just go back to windows xp until you can afford another pc ?
[01:24] <crowin11> i cant do that either
[01:25] <zHammeRz> why
[01:25] <crowin11> xubuntu corrupted my original os so im kinda stuck with it
[01:25] <zHammeRz> restore it from the dell xp cd
[01:25] <crowin11> too late, i just reinstalled ubuntu ove the whole drive
[01:26] <zHammeRz> you don't hav ea cd?
[01:26] <crowin11> figuring if i had it connected to the internet i would get all the updates and drivers i need
[01:26] <crowin11> i do have cds, but really, i hate MS
[01:27] <crowin11> so it did load the broasdcam driver and as far as i can tell the os knows it has wifi but it isnt "ON"
[01:27] <zHammeRz> turn it on with the dell keyboard shortcut?
[01:28] <zHammeRz> fn F7 or FN + <something>
[01:30] <zHammeRz> looking at the keyboard it might be f2 or f10?
[02:11] <crowin1> im back hehe
[02:11] <crowin1> so i am looking to find where my ndiswrapper and driver folder are
[02:14] <crowin1> trying to set up wireless and doing well following some instructions and i get to an impasse
[02:14] <crowin1> cd YOUR-DRIVER-DIRECTORY
[02:15] <crowin1> im not so familiar with the file hierarchy
[02:18] <crowin1> ok found it. good use of telepathy who ever that was
[02:35] <crowin1> darn i was wrong
[02:48] <crowin1> hi
[02:51] <interlocutor> I'm sorry if this is asked a lot, but how stable and complete is beta 1 of oneiric?
[02:54] <crowin1> dont know sorry
[02:55] <Unit193> Well, it's not recommended for production use yet
[04:45] <Legendre> Is there any fix for the 'thunar hang on launch' bug, that pops an error window containing Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.
[04:45] <Legendre> Any ideas what's wrong, or how to fix / work-around it?
[04:49] <moetunes> Legendre:  mounting some network shares?
[04:53] <TheSheep> force unmounting .gvfs and removing the dir worked for me
[05:59] <quint> when i have an item added to the startup from the gui settings that is a bash script i get a little shadowed dead square in the top left corner of my desktop above all layers
[05:59] <quint> i am vexed.
[08:16] <xubuntu595> do you speack italian?
[08:39] <ChTiPowA> hi
[08:39] <ChTiPowA> After major upgrades of Xubuntu 11.04, it ended with "Error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.Spawn.ChildExited: Launch helper exited with unknown return code 127 "
[08:40] <ChTiPowA> I have a lots of paquets miss configured and i cannot do anything
[08:40] <ChTiPowA> i'm lost, please help.
[08:40] <bazhang> ChTiPowA, please dont crosspost. you are getting help in #ubuntu
[08:41] <ChTiPowA> someone told me to come here
[08:42] <Unit193> Ah, ok. It looked almost close to Bug #845066 to me :P
[08:43] <ChTiPowA> great why did i upgrade, everythings was working perfectly :(
[08:44] <Unit193> bazhang: Did he get what he needed from other?
[08:44] <ChTiPowA> What can i do to fix this ?
[08:45] <bazhang> Unit193, he's being helped, not responded afaict
[08:46] <ChTiPowA> Whatever i'm trying to do, i have same error
[08:48] <Unit193> Well, would using synaptic or aptitude help?
[08:48] <Unit193> Fri, 09 Sep 2011 04:48:17 -0400
[08:48] <ChTiPowA> it doesn't...
[08:48] <ChTiPowA> i use aptitude
[08:48] <Unit193> I'm taking a nap, hope you get it
[08:49] <ChTiPowA> dependance problem with so much packets, later it stops and i see this error and i'm doomed
[08:49] <Sysi> ChTiPowA: what did you try to do, what is "major upgrade" ?
[08:50] <Sysi> what did you do / how / where was the error message
[08:50] <ChTiPowA> Well firstable i have made the sudo aptitude safe-upgrade
[08:51] <ChTiPowA> well i will understand that would mean destroy upgrade
[08:51] <ChTiPowA> after that... it has destroyed my system
[08:51] <ChTiPowA> with that error
[08:51] <Myrtti> that doesn't make much sense
[08:51] <ChTiPowA> 1) I just made aptitude safe-upgrade
[08:51] <ChTiPowA> 2) I couldn't reboot after it was done
[08:52] <Myrtti> what did you do before safe-upgrade?
[08:52] <ChTiPowA> Nothing
[08:52] <ChTiPowA> yes i did aptitude update before
[08:52] <Sysi> how did you try to reboot?
[08:52] <ChTiPowA> by writing reboot
[08:52] <Myrtti> and before aptitude update?
[08:52] <Myrtti> did you edit sources.list?
[08:52] <ChTiPowA> Nothing i was peacefully in my desktop warning me for 130 updates needed to be applied
[08:53] <ChTiPowA> no
[08:53] <Myrtti> ok
[08:53] <Sysi> what if you try to shutdown/reboot from menu?
[08:53] <ChTiPowA> I don't have menu anymore now
[08:53] <ChTiPowA> i'm stucked to terminal
[08:53] <ChTiPowA> now i have like cannot open display 0
[08:53] <ChTiPowA> this is crazy
[08:54] <Sysi> when did that happen?
[08:54] <ChTiPowA> After the error
[08:54] <ChTiPowA> and i lost internet config too i had to set manually to recover it
[08:54] <ChTiPowA> the file was just empty
[08:54] <ChTiPowA> .
[08:55] <ChTiPowA> So now the only thing is working is internet and the primary console
[08:56] <ChTiPowA> I lost my Xorg config too i checked the file its empty too
[08:56] <ChTiPowA> Tried to fix Xorg by reinstalling it but stucking with that same fatal error
[08:56] <Myrtti> well xorg is usually automatically generated at boot
[08:57] <Myrtti> so missing the config is normal
[08:57] <ChTiPowA> What can i do now :(
[08:57] <Myrtti> well first off you could try "sudo apt-get -f install"
[08:58] <ChTiPowA> Same error
[08:58] <ChTiPowA> Execution has been stopped because too much errors
[08:58] <ChTiPowA> Then "Error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.Spawn.ChildExited: Launch helper exited with unknown return code 127"
[08:59] <Sysi> xorg.conf is empty by default, network setup is done by networkmanager
[09:00] <ChTiPowA> well my network is working i know it because i can ping google
[09:00] <ChTiPowA> i have a static IP
[09:01] <Sysi> I'm thinking of recommending force shutdown but booting could fail..
[09:01] <ChTiPowA> Booting is working and end in Terminal mode
[09:02] <Sysi> what if you run 'sudo service dbus start'
[09:02] <ChTiPowA> Job is already running
[09:03] <Sysi> replace start with restart
[09:03] <ChTiPowA> dbus start/running
[09:06] <Sysi> sudo service gdm start
[09:07] <ChTiPowA> i don't have gdm, i'm using xfce4
[09:08] <Sysi> how do you start it?
[09:08] <ChTiPowA> But when i start it, it says a lots of error i cannot see because its flooding my screen and i see in the end "cannot open display 0"
[09:08] <ChTiPowA> i must type startxfce4
[09:08] <Sysi> (xubuntu has gdm by default)
[09:09] <ChTiPowA> i use a small machine so i took xfce4
[09:09] <Sysi> put "exec ck-launch-session startxfce4" without quotes  to ~/.xinitrc
[09:09] <Sysi> I'm not sure if that ck-launch is needed but it shouldn't break anything
[09:10] <Sysi> then run 'startx'
[09:13] <ChTiPowA> euh
[09:13] <ChTiPowA> Are you sure ? Because i can start usually xfce4 manually
[09:13] <ChTiPowA> when it works
[09:13] <ChTiPowA> but now it ends up by "cannot open display 0"
[09:14] <Sysi> I don't have much of ideas, that can fail too but at least you have something to try
[09:15] <ChTiPowA> It fails also with reconfiguring with this :
[09:15] <ChTiPowA> update-mime-database.real: symbol lookup error: update-mime-database.real: undefined symbol: g_malloc0_n
[09:15] <ChTiPowA> This is crazy
[09:16] <Sysi> what reconfiguring?
[09:17] <ChTiPowA> sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a
[09:17] <ChTiPowA> then it ends up with this line
[09:17] <ChTiPowA> update-mime-database.real: symbol lookup error: update-mime-database.real: undefined symbol: g_malloc0_n
[09:18] <Sysi> how about dpkg --configure -a
[09:20] <ChTiPowA> There is a huge flood on the screen ending with "too much errors"
[09:20] <Sysi> you propably need to just reinstall
[09:21] <ChTiPowA> How ?
[09:21] <ChTiPowA> Downloading live cd ?
[09:21] <ChTiPowA> Tell me
[09:21] <ChTiPowA> Does live CD can fix system ?
[09:22] <Sysi> livecd or alternate install disk, wipe your old installation
[09:23] <Sysi> you propably want to back up data before that
[09:23] <ChTiPowA> yes i indeed
[09:23] <ChTiPowA> i need to recover my files in sFTP
[09:23] <ChTiPowA> but do you know any solution to do that in console ?
[09:24] <Sysi> scp -r /this/folder/ you@host:/copy/here
[10:21] <ChTiPowA> thx for your effort Sysi
[10:23] <Sysi> np, too bad it broke
[10:26] <ChTiPowA> Sysi do you know any software like midnight commander which have an explorer in console but for sFTP ?
[10:26] <Sysi> no
[10:26] <Sysi> you could mount it with ssshfs and then use MCC though
[10:27] <ChTiPowA> that case i could continue to use it in console only because my network is working, my samba too so i see my files but that computer is downloading via SSH
[10:27] <ChTiPowA> ssshfs ?
[10:27] <Sysi> !info sshfs
[10:28] <Sysi> ubottu down..
[10:28] <ChTiPowA> ok searching in doc.ubuntu
[10:29] <ChTiPowA> Awesome i need to try that
[10:29] <ChTiPowA> :)
[10:29] <ChTiPowA> You can laugh but i was using my graphic desktop to use filezilla because i didn't know otherway
[10:30] <Sysi> nothing wrong with filezilla, though gigolo/thunar would work
[10:30] <ChTiPowA> but i don't have graphic anymore
[10:30] <ChTiPowA> i have only terminal
[10:30] <ChTiPowA> But now its too late
[10:31] <ChTiPowA> because of the bugs i cannot install anything
[10:31] <ChTiPowA> :(
[10:31] <ChTiPowA> ok my mistake the packet sshfs installed =)
[12:44] <dagroves> does anyone know how I can make the Gnome 3 them called Aidwata run on Xubuntu 10.10?
[12:50] <Sysi> dagroves: you can't, adwaita is made with gtk3 and xfce uses gtk2
[12:51] <Sysi> if you want gtk3 apps to use adwaita, copy gtk-3.0 folder from adwaita to your theme's folder
[12:51] <dagroves> But I read somewhere about porting some GTK3 themes to XFCE on GTK2, I found a theme for GTK2 that is for Xubuntu but it did not work, it just changed the color of my xfce panel
[12:53] <Sysi> you're maybe missing some theme-engine
[12:53] <Sysi> search in software center / synaptic for gtk2-engine
[12:54] <Sysi> dunno about porting, 10.10 support should be on #ubuntu+1 anyway
[12:54] <Pici> '11.10'
[12:54] <dagroves> okay ill search synaptic
[12:56] <Sysi> oh, I messed up with number
[12:57] <Sysi> dagroves: what theme did you try? wrong version of theme engine can cause problems too
[12:57] <dagroves> I am not sure, I just downloaded it from the ubuntuforums, hold on ill get the link
[12:58] <dagroves> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1764856
[12:58] <dagroves> that is where I got it from
[12:59] <Sysi> "it uses pixmap, murrine and clearlooks for rendering"
[13:00] <Sysi> you need those gtk-engines
[13:00] <dagroves> my windows boreders do not change, they stay that ugly blue color
[13:00] <Sysi> see window manager settings
[13:00] <dagroves> I have murrine and clearlooks, ill check to see if I have pixmap
[13:01] <Sysi> change to other theme and back to that when installing engines, you may need to relogin too
[13:02] <dagroves> yeah the window border theme for the one I downloaded is not there...
[13:03] <Sysi> theme propably doesn't provide xfwm4 theme
[13:04] <dagroves> ohwell.. lol so... would it be possible to install Gnome 3 without Gnome-shell on Xubuntu?
[13:04] <dagroves> without breaking it?
[13:05] <Sysi> you can use gnome3 fallback or possibly gnome3 window manager with xfce
[13:06] <Sysi> xfce doesn't care if you have gnome installed
[13:06] <dagroves> i was going to use Gnome3 fallback, I like they way it looks, I just don't want the shell
[13:09] <dagroves> how would I go about doing that, I just want the environment, not all the programs, I tried installing it once and it installed Gnome 3 and all of its programs
[14:11] <sps_> folks, need some help with file/directory sharing...
[14:12] <sps_> I have xubuntu installed in vbox and samba, can't enable file sharing, any help?
[17:10] <mecklen`> I'm about to install xubuntu 11.04 on a dual monitor nvidia desktop.  Will 11.04 support dual monitors in this release?
[17:11] <Sysi> of course
[17:11] <mecklen`> Thanks, sorry for the noise.
[17:12] <Sysi> you may want to install propietrary nvidia driver but propably possible with default one too
[17:19] <mecklen`> Sysi: Excellent!  Thanks again.
[18:18] <toomai> hi all
[18:19] <whatever01> I have a question installing xubuntu 11.04 (graphical installation) using one SSD as / (root) and two HDDs for /home...any chance I can make a RAID 1 at the beginning?
[18:21] <Sysi> you can create raid with alternate install disk
[18:21] <Sysi> but it would be simpler to just mount other partition as folder in /home
[18:23] <whatever01> Sysi: hi there, thanks...I just thought I need to take the alternate one to make a RAID 1 at the very beginning of the installation during partioning
[18:24] <whatever01> Sysi: I will try the alternate and come back if needed...thanks
[18:30] <Aicasn> if i install grub with   grub-install /dev/sda    how do I back up the bootloader with the partition table?   is   dd if=/dev/sda of=mbr.bin bs=512 count=1   enough?
[19:22] <Ork> Hi
[19:22] <Ork> Do you guys know any menu customisation tool ?
[19:22] <Ork> I'm planning to deploy Xubuntu on 50+ machines of my school
[19:23] <Ork> Found it
[19:24] <charlie-tca> You can use alacarte by installing with 'sudo apt-get install alacarte --no-install-recommends' in a terminal
[19:24] <charlie-tca> for 11.04 and later
[19:24] <charlie-tca> Xfce 4.6, used in 10.04 and 10.10 had no easy editor capability
[19:25] <Ork> ok
[19:26] <Ork> What do you think of lightdm ?
[19:26] <Ork> Should I use it ?
[19:28] <Ork> Oh, Xubuntu Oneiric will use it
[19:28] <Ork> neat
[19:28] <charlie-tca> We use it by default in oneirick
[19:28] <charlie-tca> but, depending on what you need, it may not work as good in 11.04
[19:28] <Ork> ok
[19:28] <charlie-tca> It wasn't ready for production use yet, when we started the oneiric cycle
[19:29] <Ork> What are the major problems ?
[19:29] <charlie-tca> when I tried it in 11.04, it would not work
[19:29] <Ork> :(
[19:29] <Ork> ok
[19:30] <charlie-tca> I haven't tried it for 4 months now, though
[19:30] <charlie-tca> It worked in a clean install, but not on my production system
[19:30] <Ork> Yeah, I'm firing up a VM
[19:30] <Ork> ok
[19:30] <Ork> Our actual production systems are mort than outdated, we need clean install
[19:30] <Ork> So it's cool
[19:30] <Ork> more*
[19:31] <Ork> I never deployed desktop system, how to customize default Xubuntu session?
[19:31] <Ork> Something like /etc/skel/ ?
[19:32] <charlie-tca> either build your images, or add to /etc/skel and copy it
[19:32] <Ork> ok
[19:32] <Tiktalik> How do I find a list of running programs?
[19:32] <Ork> We currently use Gnome 2, could there be conflicts while moving to xfce?
[19:32] <Ork> Tiktalik, ps in terminal?
[19:33] <Ork> Tiktalik, or the xfce task manager
[19:33] <charlie-tca> Also, let me give you a pastebin to easily set up all machines to match, if you don't burn an image
[19:33] <Tiktalik> Ork, how do I find the task manager? :V
[19:33] <Ork> I build an image an i deploy it, charlie-tca
[19:34] <Ork> Tiktalik, Apps > System > Task Manager?
[19:34] <charlie-tca> okay, that makes it easier to get it to match,t hen.
[19:34] <Ork> yup
[19:35] <charlie-tca> If you build an image, you probably don't need /etc/skel, since you can build everything into the image, anyway
[19:35] <Ork> One last question, can xfce use the ~/.gtkrc-2.0 file?
[19:36] <charlie-tca> although, /etc/skel works really well when having students add users
[19:36] <Ork> Because we needed to put a line into it to make Gnome2 use lpr as the printer backend
[19:36] <Ork> We use an active directory
[19:36] <charlie-tca> I believe it can, but have not used one since onceirc
[19:36] <Ork> and homes are nfs-mounted
[19:37] <ChTiPowA> Hi
[19:37] <charlie-tca> I used the ~/.gtkrc-2.0 to customize things back before I could get Xfce to do it using the settings manager
[19:37] <Ork> ok
[19:37] <charlie-tca> !hi | ChTiPowA
[19:37] <ChTiPowA> I have installed Xubuntu 11.04 but in the end, Grub refuse to install
[19:37] <charlie-tca> You can install it manually, then, using the information at
[19:37] <charlie-tca> !grub
[19:38] <ChTiPowA> Ok can i do that with the Live USB because this is one computer
[19:38] <Ork> Thanks for your time charlie-tca, I'll post photos of rooms full of fresh Xubuntu pcs :)
[19:38] <ChTiPowA> ?
[19:38] <charlie-tca> Thanks!
[19:39] <charlie-tca> ChTiPowA: ues, that should work
[19:39] <charlie-tca> Ork: good luck with the project.
[19:39] <Ork> Yeah, the school sysadmin almost kidnapped me to do it :p
[19:40] <ChTiPowA> Ok i will try it thx
[22:04] <ChTiPowA> I fail to restore my Boot
[22:04] <ChTiPowA> Once i have put Grub again with Boot Repair
[22:04] <ChTiPowA> i have Grub>
[22:04] <ChTiPowA> then what to do in that lol
[22:06] <ChTiPowA> and if i restore MBR, i have a Cursor which is waiting forever
[22:21] <mecklen`> How do I configure the mail notification icon in the indicator panel?  When I left click it only shows pidgin and when I right click it show the Indicator Plugin menu.  I'm running Xubuntu 11.04.